Development Commission · Wednesday, July 15, 2020 · City Council Digest

1. CALL TO ORDER

Commission Membership

packet pp.3

Previously discussed: City Council Regular Meeting · Dec 16, 2019

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Staff report:

Development Commission About Staff Liaison Created in 1983, this commission reviews all land Lucy Sloman, use actions requiring a Level 3 review. The Land Development Manager Commission further serves as an advisory board Email to the City Council on land use actions requiring council approval (Level 5 review). Regular Members 2020 – Melvin Morgan The appearance of fairness doctrine prohibits 2020 – Kevin Price Development Commission members and City 2022 – Michael Brennan Council members from discussing the merit of 2022 – Richard Sowa specific land use development applications outside 2022 – Richard Sanford of the formal public meeting process. Citizens, 2023 – Brooke Shore however, may discuss any issue with the City's 2023 – Vacant Development Services Department. Written comments are also welcome. Alternate Members 2021 – Arthur Schulte Membership 2021 – Vacant The Development…

2. COMMUNITY CONFERENCE

Staff Presentation

Cristina Haworth, Planning Consultant · packet pp.5–155

Previously discussed: City Council Regular Meeting · Dec 16, 2019

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Staff report:

B. Project Chronology C. Next Steps D. Community Conference, Purpose E. Master Site Plan, Purpose F. Site Development Permit, Purpose G. Administrative Adjustments of Standards, Purpose H. SEPA Project Description A. Use/Overview B. Allowable Uses, Building Location and Massing, and Site and Building Design C. Parking D. Traffic, Circulation Facilities, and Access E. Site Grading, Tree Removal/Retention, and Landscape F. Utilities G. Critical Areas and the Environment H. Lighting I. Design Criteria Checklist Public Notification

Applicant Presentation

Todd Sawin, AHBL · packet pp.157–167

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Staff report:

ISSAQUAH school district / high school #4 & elementary school #17

Public Comments/Questions and Discussion To make verbal comments, sign up in advance of the meeting at issaquahwa.gov/dcsignup

Commission Questions, Clarifications, and Comments

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0:01 ↗ July 15 2020 special meeting of the

0:05 ↗ Development Commission to order at 6:30

0:07 ↗ 3:00 p.m. due to the governor's

0:10 ↗ Proclamation 20 - 28 prohibiting

0:13 ↗ meetings that fall under the open public

0:15 ↗ meetings Act such as the Development

0:18 ↗ Commission from being conducted in

0:20 ↗ person tonight's meeting will be

0:22 ↗ entirely remotely held entirely remotely

0:25 ↗ the meeting is being live-streamed on

0:27 ↗ the city's youtube channel Issaquah blog

0:30 ↗ of /live and on channel 21

0:35 ↗ the meeting will also be recorded and

0:37 ↗ available for later viewing on the

0:39 ↗ city's youtube channel those members of

0:43 ↗ the public on the phone with us this

0:44 ↗ evening welcome we encourage you to

0:47 ↗ follow along by watching channel 21 or

0:49 ↗ the live stream in Issaquah moi gov /

0:52 ↗ slide however please note that there is

0:56 ↗ a delay

0:57 ↗ so meeting guidelines before we begin

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1:57 ↗ for attendance although now take a roll

1:59 ↗ call vote those commissioners in

2:02 ↗ attendance and I should announce my name

2:05 ↗ is Belle Morgan I am the vice chair the

2:07 ↗ development Commission and Richard solo

2:10 ↗ that chair is having computer issues at

2:13 ↗ the moment and so I'm stepping in as

2:15 ↗ chair for now so commissioners please

2:18 ↗ say here when I call your name Michael

2:21 ↗ Brennan I'm here Kevin price I'm here

2:27 ↗ Richard Sanford Peter Burke Shore here

2:33 ↗ and Arthur Schulte here the Commission's

2:38 ↗ alternate member Arthur will be serving

2:40 ↗ as a regular member tonight due to the

2:42 ↗ Commission vacancy we're also joined by

2:45 ↗ the following city staff the hen

2:48 ↗ Development Manager Lucy sloman senior

2:51 ↗ planning consultant Christina Hayworth

2:53 ↗ community development and planning

2:55 ↗ director Keith Niven deputy City

2:58 ↗ Administrator Andrea Schneider

3:01 ↗ assistant planner Doug your Mick

3:05 ↗ deputy city clerk tisha geyser recording

3:08 ↗ secretary Susan Lowe from the school

3:11 ↗ district we have Tom Mullins is Law

3:15 ↗ School District director of capital

3:16 ↗ projects will introduce the ISD team

3:20 ↗ during their presentation

3:24 ↗ on tonight's schedule we have the is

3:26 ↗ across school district high school and

3:28 ↗ elementary school campus at 4 to 2 1 to

3:31 ↗ 28th Avenue Southeast Community

3:34 ↗ Conference this is known as comm 20 -

3:38 ↗ zero zero zero zero one

3:41 ↗ and PR irj a 19-0 zero zero zero eight

3:48 ↗ the community conference is an informal

3:50 ↗ public meeting that serves as a code

3:52 ↗ required first step before the ISD may

3:56 ↗ submit their full land use permits the

3:59 ↗ purpose of tonight's meeting is to

4:01 ↗ generate discussion raise issues and

4:04 ↗ propose creative options relative to the

4:07 ↗ proposed project the proposal is

4:10 ↗ preliminary and may change as a result

4:13 ↗ of this process no formal decisions will

4:16 ↗ be made at this meeting

4:19 ↗ the comments we hear tonight as well as

4:21 ↗ any written comments received before or

4:24 ↗ after this meeting through July 22nd

4:27 ↗ will be collected into a report on the

4:30 ↗ topics and issues raised gap Lacan will

4:34 ↗ then be asked to respond to all the

4:36 ↗ topics and identify how they have

4:39 ↗ responded when they submit their full

4:40 ↗ land use permits if you want to receive

4:44 ↗ this summary please send an email to the

4:47 ↗ address scrolling at the bottom of your

4:49 ↗ screen in the future after those full

4:54 ↗ land use permits are submitted staff

4:57 ↗ will notify the public that the

4:58 ↗ application has been received

5:01 ↗ and staff will review right and issue a

5:04 ↗ staff report this will be followed by a

5:07 ↗ formal public hearing before the

5:09 ↗ development commission and a decision by

5:12 ↗ the City Council these provided

5:15 ↗ additional opportunities for public

5:16 ↗ comment prior to any decision being made

5:21 ↗ I'd like to ask the city's senior

5:23 ↗ planning consultant Christina he worked

5:25 ↗ to make a presentation

5:26 ↗ [Music]

5:29 ↗ Thank You Commissioner Morgan this is

5:32 ↗ Christina Hayworth and just give me one

5:35 ↗ moment to share my screen and please

5:44 ↗ you

5:49 ↗ you

5:54 ↗ you

5:57 ↗ you

6:02 ↗ so as you said we are here tonight to

6:05 ↗ take a preliminary look at is Dee's

6:08 ↗ proposal for a new school campus to

6:12 ↗ reiterate the purpose of tonight's

6:14 ↗ meeting this is an informal conversation

6:16 ↗ intended to engage the public early on

6:18 ↗ in the process and form a collaborative

6:20 ↗ relationship between the public of the

6:21 ↗ applicant city staff and the Development

6:24 ↗ Commission we'd like to hear big-picture

6:26 ↗ issues focus on project design cite

6:29 ↗ challenges and creative ideas you may

6:31 ↗ have the applicant has also identified

6:33 ↗ some topics for more specific feedback

6:35 ↗ that they'll address during their

6:36 ↗ presentation this is the first step

6:40 ↗ toward submitting the required land use

6:42 ↗ applications but those applications have

6:43 ↗ not been submitted yet tonight's meeting

6:46 ↗ is for discussion and no decisions will

6:48 ↗ be made

6:50 ↗ the project is located at four to two

6:54 ↗ one to 28th Avenue with southeast in the

6:58 ↗ north end of the city of Issaquah and

7:00 ↗ adjacent to the city of some ish the

7:02 ↗ site is shown here in red shown in

7:06 ↗ yellow is the Providence point

7:08 ↗ residential community and shown in blue

7:10 ↗ is the Bellwood retirement community

7:15 ↗ the site is just over 40 acres in size

7:20 ↗ there is a central clearing and mature

7:23 ↗ vegetation around the perimeter of the

7:25 ↗ site the site has some rolling

7:28 ↗ topography that slopes more steeply

7:29 ↗ eastward towards to 28th Avenue

7:31 ↗ southeast the applicant has identified

7:36 ↗ two wetlands on the project site wetland

7:39 ↗ B is in the west-southwest area and

7:42 ↗ wetlands C is towards the south as you

7:45 ↗ can see in the top photograph and on the

7:49 ↗ right the existing vegetation does not

7:51 ↗ fully screen the property from the

7:53 ↗ Providence Point community the

7:55 ↗ vegetation does however screen views to

7:58 ↗ and from to 28th Avenue southeast

8:03 ↗ is across school district is proposing a

8:06 ↗ new consolidated school campus on this

8:09 ↗ site that includes a high school an

8:11 ↗ elementary school a sports stadium

8:14 ↗ parking structure and surface parking

8:16 ↗ lots and a number of outdoor learning

8:18 ↗ and sports areas the high school will

8:21 ↗ support up to approximately 1823

8:25 ↗ students in ninth through 12th grades

8:28 ↗ supported by about 150 faculty and staff

8:31 ↗ the elementary school will support up to

8:34 ↗ about seven hundred and forty four

8:35 ↗ students in pre-k through 5th grade

8:37 ↗ supported by 75 faculty and staff the

8:41 ↗ project as currently proposed involves

8:43 ↗ removal of significant trees substantial

8:46 ↗ site grading the construction of

8:48 ↗ multiple retaining walls utility

8:50 ↗ improvements and new circulation

8:52 ↗ infrastructure what Lindsay is proposed

8:55 ↗ to be filled as part of the development

8:57 ↗ in the current design the site will be

9:00 ↗ accessed from to 28th Avenue southeast

9:02 ↗ through a new signalized intersection

9:05 ↗ and frontage improvements will be

9:06 ↗ installed the southeast 43rd way access

9:09 ↗ will remain available as an emergency

9:11 ↗ access point

9:15 ↗ this project is proposed as part of the

9:20 ↗ 2016 the school construction bond ISD

9:24 ↗ acquired the property in 2017 after the

9:27 ↗ prior owner demolished the Providence

9:30 ↗ Heights College ISD met with the city at

9:33 ↗ a pre-application meeting in August of

9:35 ↗ 2019 to begin discussing the project in

9:38 ↗ January 2020 City Council approved a

9:41 ↗ rezone to community facilities

9:44 ↗ facilities CFF which allows the high

9:47 ↗ school as an authorized use the

9:49 ↗ elementary school was already allowed

9:51 ↗ under the previous zoning in February of

9:54 ↗ this year the CEPA for that reason was

9:56 ↗ appealed to the growth management

9:58 ↗ hearings board and to date the appeal

9:59 ↗ has not yet been resolved additional

10:01 ↗ processing may be required for the

10:03 ↗ project depending on the outcome of the

10:05 ↗ appeal going forward this community

10:09 ↗ conference is the first step in

10:11 ↗ preparing to submit the required land

10:14 ↗ use applications the project triggers a

10:16 ↗ master site plan due to the parcel size

10:19 ↗ exceeding 15 acres and a site

10:22 ↗ development permit due to the location

10:24 ↗ along to 28th Avenue southeast apologies

10:31 ↗ I'm now on slide 8 for those following

10:35 ↗ along maybe without the video the slide

10:39 ↗ is titled future permit requirements the

10:43 ↗ applicant has has identified the

10:45 ↗ potential need for modification of some

10:47 ↗ code provisions and those would require

10:50 ↗ potentially administrative adjustment of

10:52 ↗ standards applications those are

10:54 ↗ separate applications with their own

10:57 ↗ processing requirements and

10:58 ↗ opportunities for public involvement

11:00 ↗ after land use approvals have been

11:03 ↗ issued the project will also require

11:05 ↗ site work permits building permits and

11:07 ↗ other construction permits this project

11:10 ↗ is also subject to SEPA review as the

11:13 ↗ post school district has indicated that

11:16 ↗ they will act as lead agency to fulfill

11:18 ↗ environmental review obligations the

11:21 ↗ city of Issaquah and the public will

11:23 ↗ have the opportunity to review and

11:24 ↗ comment on the environmental documents

11:26 ↗ prior to

11:28 ↗ determination becoming final the city

11:30 ↗ will not be responsible for issuing the

11:33 ↗ threshold determination or determining

11:35 ↗ any mitigation measures

11:42 ↗ I've received some questions and

11:44 ↗ comments from the public about how big

11:46 ↗ the buildings might be and where they

11:48 ↗ can be sited in the CFS zone buildings

11:51 ↗ can be up to 65 feet high which is about

11:54 ↗ five storeys the setback along the

11:57 ↗ property line shared with Providence

11:58 ↗ point is 20 feet as you can see in this

12:03 ↗ image now on slide 9 the elementary

12:06 ↗ school playground fence will be no

12:09 ↗ closer than about 37 feet which is the

12:12 ↗ closest point

12:17 ↗ the high school now on slide 10 the high

12:21 ↗ school will be no closer than about 66

12:23 ↗ feet according to the site plan provided

12:25 ↗ by the applicant

12:29 ↗ the building elevations provided in the

12:33 ↗ application materials for the community

12:34 ↗ conference indicate that the schools

12:36 ↗ will be about three to four storeys high

12:38 ↗ depending on the angle that they're

12:40 ↗ viewed at on the top here of slide 11

12:43 ↗ this is a representative elevation of

12:46 ↗ the proposed high school and on the

12:48 ↗ bottom is a representative elevation of

12:51 ↗ the proposed elementary school that

12:52 ↗ shows how the viewing angle could change

12:55 ↗ the perception of the building mass

13:00 ↗ the cff zone requires compliance with

13:03 ↗ compact schools regulations including a

13:06 ↗ minimum floor area ratio of 0.75 floor

13:10 ↗ area ratio is the ratio of building

13:13 ↗ gross square footage to developable site

13:15 ↗ area and there's an image that

13:18 ↗ illustrates this on slide 12 the total

13:21 ↗ square footage of the building is

13:23 ↗ divided by the site area less

13:26 ↗ unbuildable areas like critical areas

13:28 ↗ and setbacks and less outdoor academic

13:31 ↗ curriculum spaces the image illustrates

13:34 ↗ how fer of 1.0 works in the absence of

13:38 ↗ other regulations in this simplified

13:40 ↗ example a one-story building could cover

13:43 ↗ 100% of the lot with a 1.0 fer a 2-story

13:47 ↗ building could cover 50% of the lot

13:49 ↗ etcetera the minimum fer of 0.75 in a

13:53 ↗ CFS zone is was developed to ensure that

13:58 ↗ large pieces of property are used well

14:00 ↗ to accommodate the needs of the

14:02 ↗ community the applicant has indicated

14:04 ↗ that after deducting unbuildable areas

14:07 ↗ and outdoor curriculum spaces they are

14:09 ↗ not able to achieve the minimum 0.75 fer

14:13 ↗ for this project they estimate that at

14:16 ↗ full build-out fer will be only 0.35 6

14:20 ↗ and will be less at earlier phases of

14:23 ↗ development staff will continue working

14:25 ↗ with the applicant to increase

14:27 ↗ conformance with the minimum fer options

14:30 ↗ could include increasing building square

14:32 ↗ footage or additive hardening

14:34 ↗ identifying existing or additional areas

14:37 ↗ to deduct from the site Sai area if the

14:41 ↗ FA are still can't be achieved the

14:43 ↗ applicant could request a reduction of

14:45 ↗ the minimum if a are from 0.75 to 0.375

14:50 ↗ this requires a separate application and

14:53 ↗ review process and is subject to

14:55 ↗ criteria in the compact Schools

14:56 ↗ regulations it would still also require

15:00 ↗ some modification of the design be it

15:03 ↗ increasing building square footage or

15:05 ↗ identifying additional areas for

15:07 ↗ deduction from the site area

15:12 ↗ off-street parking is calculated her

15:16 ↗ uhsorry slide 13 now off street parking

15:18 ↗ is calculated per each principle use on

15:21 ↗ the site and at least half of the

15:22 ↗ required parking has to be provided

15:25 ↗ within a parking structure surface

15:27 ↗ parking is shown around the site on the

15:30 ↗ site plan and the parking structure

15:32 ↗ would go over a portion of the lot shown

15:34 ↗ in this image which is east of the

15:36 ↗ proposed stadium the applicant is

15:39 ↗ proposing a shared parking approach for

15:42 ↗ the site they would construct about 710

15:45 ↗ parking spaces which is more than

15:47 ↗ adequate for the day-to-day needs for

15:50 ↗ both schools this parking capacity would

15:53 ↗ then be shared for the stadium or

15:55 ↗ special events which are only used

15:58 ↗ outside of typical school hours ISD

16:00 ↗ would not host high school and

16:02 ↗ elementary school special events at the

16:04 ↗ same time to make sure that there's

16:06 ↗ plenty of parking for any event

16:07 ↗ happening on the campus the shared

16:10 ↗ parking approach would also require a

16:12 ↗ separate application and review process

16:14 ↗ that it's subject to review criteria in

16:16 ↗ the off street parking standards

16:21 ↗ slide 14 we've also heard some concern

16:25 ↗ about traffic the applicant did submit

16:29 ↗ some preliminary traffic information the

16:32 ↗ to 28th Avenue southeast right-of-way is

16:34 ↗ owned by the city of Sammamish and the

16:36 ↗ city of Sammamish therefore has the

16:38 ↗ primary review responsibility for

16:40 ↗ traffic and frontage improvements that

16:42 ↗ might be part of this project the city

16:45 ↗ of Issaquah will provide a secondary

16:47 ↗ review for potential impacts to Issaquah

16:49 ↗ roadways in the current design the site

16:52 ↗ will use a single driveway at 228 Avenue

16:55 ↗ south east where traffic will both enter

16:57 ↗ and exit a new traffic signal will

17:00 ↗ control this intersection traffic

17:02 ↗ impacts are most likely to occur during

17:05 ↗ the a.m. peak hour of 7 o'clock to 8

17:07 ↗ o'clock because the high school start

17:09 ↗ time is 8 o clock the applicant is

17:12 ↗ required to work with the city of

17:14 ↗ Sammamish to identify and mitigate

17:15 ↗ traffic impacts

17:21 ↗ moving on to slide 15 discussion on

17:25 ↗ trees

17:26 ↗ the proposal requires the removal of

17:29 ↗ significant trees to enlarge the central

17:31 ↗ clearing and allow construction of the

17:33 ↗ facilities the applicant is required to

17:36 ↗ retain 25% of existing significant trees

17:39 ↗ on site must maintain a minimum tree

17:41 ↗ density of for significant trees per

17:43 ↗ 5,000 square feet of site area

17:46 ↗ replacement is required if tree density

17:48 ↗ falls below the minimum requirement the

17:51 ↗ applicant is proposing to maintain

17:53 ↗ existing vegetation around the site

17:55 ↗ perimeter and does anticipate the need

17:57 ↗ for replacement

17:59 ↗ they will inter plant an augment the

18:03 ↗ perimeter vegetation that will remain

18:06 ↗ and they will plant new trees in various

18:08 ↗ landscaping areas around the site the

18:11 ↗ applicant might request modification of

18:13 ↗ tree retention requirements and if so

18:16 ↗ this would also require a separate

18:18 ↗ application and review process subject

18:21 ↗ to approval criteria

18:26 ↗ the last key topic that I want to

18:30 ↗ discuss is retaining walls this is

18:34 ↗ something else that I have gotten some

18:36 ↗ comments about already the applicant is

18:39 ↗ proposing multiple retaining walls

18:41 ↗ around various structures on the site

18:43 ↗ which they have indicated is necessary

18:45 ↗ to address topographical challenges

18:48 ↗ while minimizing site grading and soil

18:50 ↗ import and export all walls greater than

18:53 ↗ four feet in height requires some sort

18:55 ↗ of aesthetic treatment which is

18:57 ↗ typically landscaping the applicant is

18:59 ↗ considering some alternative treatments

19:01 ↗ such as decorative or artistic wall

19:03 ↗ materials for the retaining wall along

19:05 ↗ 228 Avenue South East and the wall at

19:08 ↗ the softball outfield

19:10 ↗ they've also identified a few places

19:12 ↗ where walls would be screened by

19:14 ↗ existing vegetation and so they're

19:20 ↗ considering simply augmenting that

19:23 ↗ existing vegetation where it already

19:26 ↗ exists staff will work with the

19:29 ↗ applicant to ensure a high quality

19:31 ↗ pedestrian experience along to 28th

19:34 ↗ Avenue southeast and will require

19:36 ↗ documentation of the aesthetic

19:38 ↗ treatments as part of any future land

19:39 ↗ use applications

19:44 ↗ the next steps in this process are to

19:49 ↗ finish collecting written comments on

19:52 ↗ the community conference materials as

19:54 ↗ commissioner Morgan stated the city will

19:57 ↗ accept written comments through next

19:59 ↗ Wednesday July 22nd all comments

20:02 ↗ received will be summarized for review

20:05 ↗ and response by the applicant if you

20:07 ↗ want a copy of this summary please send

20:10 ↗ an email request to DSD at ASIC wha-wha

20:14 ↗ gov this is the address that's scrolling

20:17 ↗ across the bottom of your screen the

20:20 ↗ next major milestone for this project

20:22 ↗ would be the submittal of the master

20:24 ↗ site plan and site development permit

20:26 ↗ applications at that time the city will

20:29 ↗ issue a notice of application to

20:31 ↗ adjacent property owners and all parties

20:33 ↗ of record consistent with city

20:34 ↗ processing requirements and there is

20:36 ↗ ample opportunity for further public

20:39 ↗ comment on this project including at the

20:41 ↗ public hearing Seba must be completed by

20:44 ↗ ISD prior to any decisions being made on

20:46 ↗ the project and there are common

20:47 ↗ opportunities through that process as

20:50 ↗ well that concludes my presentation if

20:55 ↗ there are any questions from the

20:57 ↗ commissioners for clarification

21:07 ↗ you

21:15 ↗ if you have questions you'll have to

21:18 ↗ unmute yourself

21:25 ↗ I have questions but I'll wait until we

21:29 ↗ get through the whole presentation and

21:31 ↗ maybe ask after some of them maybe

21:33 ↗ answer as part of the applicants

21:36 ↗ presentation

21:37 ↗ great anyone else

21:41 ↗ thanks thanks Commissioner Brennan

21:47 ↗ so so now first I'd like to thank Mel

21:52 ↗ for stepping in Commissioner Morgan for

21:54 ↗ stepping in and and my my computer just

21:58 ↗ would not work I'm sorry I apologize but

22:00 ↗ now I'd like to ask the applicant Tom

22:03 ↗ Mullins the director of capital projects

22:05 ↗ for this school district to introduce

22:07 ↗ his team and to make a presentation

22:10 ↗ thank you I'd like to introduce Michael

22:14 ↗ Davis who's the design principle would

22:16 ↗ bisetti architects and Todd soin whose

22:20 ↗ project planner with AJ hbl tonight

22:24 ↗ Michael and Todd will be presenting the

22:26 ↗ his Crosse School District High School

22:28 ↗ number for Elementary number 17 project

22:31 ↗ Michael

22:36 ↗ thank you Tom

22:37 ↗ Todd will you share our presentation

22:40 ↗ please

22:45 ↗ you

22:51 ↗ you

23:00 ↗ thank you well first off thank you for

23:03 ↗ the opportunity to present the Issaquah

23:05 ↗ high school number for an elementary

23:07 ↗ school number 17 projects for you today

23:09 ↗ as Tom mentioned I'm Michael Davis the

23:11 ↗ design principle with bisetti architects

23:13 ↗ from the start of this project our team

23:16 ↗ has been inspired by the natural beauty

23:17 ↗ of the Greater Issaquah and Sammamish

23:19 ↗ areas from the development within the

23:21 ↗ urban core that transitions into the

23:23 ↗ less dense areas of the predominantly

23:25 ↗ housing at its edges to the wonderful

23:27 ↗ parks forests and mountains that

23:29 ↗ surrounded to find the area we wanted

23:31 ↗ our new campus to reflect the beauty of

23:33 ↗ Greater Iroquois through our project

23:35 ↗ exploration we came up with a concept of

23:37 ↗ a school campus as a park in the Pacific

23:39 ↗ Northwest Cascades to achieve this we

23:42 ↗ needed to think of the primary elements

23:44 ↗ of a campus a little differently for

23:46 ↗ example the entry sequence to the campus

23:48 ↗ needs to reflect that of entry in a

23:50 ↗ state park or driving up to Tiger

23:52 ↗ Mountain summit Rahad

23:53 ↗ similarly the parking lots would need to

23:56 ↗ be redefined as areas under developing

23:58 ↗ tree can be rather than a barren

23:59 ↗ landscape dominated by asphalt and

24:01 ↗ concrete these are just a few examples

24:04 ↗ of the design moves we would need - that

24:06 ↗ would need to be done to change the

24:08 ↗ essence of a school campus into a park

24:10 ↗ next slide please

24:13 ↗ when we started looking at the history

24:16 ↗ of the surrounding area we started

24:17 ↗ seeing some additional themes that we

24:19 ↗ wanted to build upon the area early on

24:21 ↗ grew around the mining industry and

24:23 ↗ transitioned into predominantly the

24:25 ↗ logging industry large swaths of land

24:27 ↗ had been logged replanted logged again

24:29 ↗ additionally built environments such as

24:31 ↗ the providence heist college have come

24:33 ↗ and gone further change in the history

24:35 ↗ the landscape and the nature of the area

24:37 ↗ a common theme that we are seeing was

24:40 ↗ regeneration more specifically the

24:42 ↗ region generating of the forest next

24:45 ↗ slide

24:47 ↗ when you look at Pacific Northwest

24:48 ↗ forests apologies there are four

24:50 ↗ specific areas that are prominent and

24:52 ↗ transition from one form to another

24:54 ↗ through time these are clearings

24:57 ↗ regenerating forests start or younger

24:59 ↗ trees new growth and existing forest

25:03 ↗ looking at the aerial photographs of our

25:05 ↗ sites banded from 1936 to 2018 you can

25:09 ↗ see how it's changed adapted and

25:10 ↗ regenerated this diagram represents the

25:13 ↗ 1936 site where there are remnants of

25:16 ↗ logging and areas that had been recently

25:17 ↗ cleared that's the gray area in the

25:20 ↗ diagram on your screen next slide

25:24 ↗ in 2018 you see the results of an empty

25:27 ↗ college campus with zones of new growth

25:29 ↗ in the areas that had been previously

25:30 ↗ cleared in that previous 1936 slide next

25:34 ↗ slide

25:36 ↗ our proposed new site development looks

25:39 ↗ to weave a new school campus with the

25:41 ↗ focus of regenerating the site and

25:42 ↗ creating a park-like atmosphere that

25:44 ↗ grows with time next slide this is our

25:50 ↗ this is our current proposed site plan

25:52 ↗ for the campus the current critical

25:54 ↗ elements include a high school and

25:56 ↗ elementary school a track and football

25:58 ↗ field a softball and baseball field as

26:01 ↗ well as four tennis courts based on the

26:04 ↗ size and the complexity of the site our

26:06 ↗ team's goal and our team's goal to

26:08 ↗ create site buffers other typical

26:10 ↗ program elements you would see on the

26:12 ↗ high school's campus such as practice

26:14 ↗ soccer fields and generous ops escape

26:16 ↗ play areas for elementary students have

26:18 ↗ been omitted

26:20 ↗ this site is highly complex and needs to

26:22 ↗ be addressed very carefully grading tree

26:24 ↗ removals extensive storm water

26:26 ↗ mitigation will need to be accommodated

26:29 ↗ to me all these educational and

26:30 ↗ programmatic pieces

26:33 ↗ addition to the regenerating forest

26:34 ↗ concept the site design has been

26:36 ↗ developed around a number of other

26:38 ↗ programmatic priorities these includes

26:40 ↗ student and student safety and security

26:43 ↗ indoor and outdoor educational

26:45 ↗ opportunities proper school zoning and

26:47 ↗ safe vehicular and pedestrian

26:49 ↗ circulation specifically vehicle bus and

26:53 ↗ pedestrian circulation have been large

26:55 ↗ drivers of the site's organizational

26:57 ↗ layout to allow for proper queuing

26:59 ↗ distances and minimizing congestion of

27:01 ↗ vehicles and pedestrians the buildings

27:04 ↗ and fields had to be strategically

27:05 ↗ placed to meet the goals of the district

27:08 ↗ the primary access point is off 228

27:11 ↗ would bring which brings visitors onto a

27:14 ↗ tree-lined campus Boulevard that curves

27:16 ↗ up the hill largely matching the

27:18 ↗ existing grades of the site at the first

27:20 ↗ intersection the campus boulevard

27:22 ↗ continues to the south to the entry

27:24 ↗ plaza of the high school with the

27:26 ↗ parking stepping down the hill and

27:28 ↗ buffered by landscaping to be out of the

27:30 ↗ initial line of sight and to work with

27:32 ↗ the existing topography to the west we

27:35 ↗ have a football field our track our

27:37 ↗ tennis courts and Athletic Plaza that

27:39 ↗ separate the elementary school in high

27:41 ↗ school billions and allow for minimized

27:43 ↗ conflicts between the two facilities

27:46 ↗ when students arrive on on buses they

27:49 ↗ move through the campus Boulevard to a

27:50 ↗ bus only zone that allows for saves

27:52 ↗ drop-off for the elementary school

27:54 ↗ students at the hardscape play area and

27:56 ↗ for the high school students at the

27:58 ↗ south student entry Plaza

28:00 ↗ nextslide

28:03 ↗ now Todd's going to touch on some of the

28:05 ↗ critical site constraints that really

28:07 ↗ help shape this project

28:17 ↗ Todd you're muted

28:22 ↗ you

28:29 ↗ apologize for that um I'm pod so and I'm

28:34 ↗ a civil engineer with HPL so as Michael

28:36 ↗ mentioned the site has a number of

28:38 ↗ constraints I think there's like five

28:40 ↗ main ones that we wanted to talk through

28:42 ↗ today

28:43 ↗ as kind of how we got to this portion of

28:46 ↗ design the first one is is the buffering

28:49 ↗ so Christina's presentation showed we

28:52 ↗ had some minimum buffering that we were

28:54 ↗ required to do we're proposing something

28:56 ↗ significantly more than that as a way of

28:58 ↗ trying to fit into the neighborhood and

29:01 ↗ not have impacts to the neighbors so we

29:04 ↗ created some site sections to talk

29:06 ↗ through so the first one that Providence

29:10 ↗ point four story building that sits in

29:13 ↗ Christina's slide there was a picture of

29:15 ↗ it across its section a here

29:17 ↗ welcome posing to put a roof in that

29:20 ↗ area and plant some trees on top of that

29:22 ↗ berm to get some some elevation out of

29:25 ↗ that when the trees grow create a better

29:26 ↗ buffer in that location be is the belt

29:30 ↗ is a section through the bill would say

29:32 ↗ which starts to show that bed um

29:35 ↗ baseball field being a bug that but also

29:38 ↗ having some buffering along that edge of

29:40 ↗ about thirty five feet to try to make

29:43 ↗ that a better situation

29:52 ↗ we've got two additional slides here

29:56 ↗ the

29:58 ↗ so Section C is the back of the

30:01 ↗ elementary school this is one of the

30:03 ↗ areas Kristina pointed out in the in her

30:05 ↗ presentation that we are have proposing

30:08 ↗ to put the wall at the bottom of the

30:09 ↗ slope for the elementary school and use

30:11 ↗ existing vegetation we thought this gave

30:13 ↗ us an opportunity to screen the existing

30:15 ↗ wall with the existing vegetation and

30:17 ↗ screen the kids and that portion of it

30:20 ↗ with new growth the top of the wall so

30:23 ↗ that's one of the areas we're gonna ask

30:24 ↗ for some input on and finally section D

30:27 ↗ is at the high school itself we've been

30:32 ↗ trained to work with the neighbors to

30:34 ↗ come up with a way to better buffer that

30:36 ↗ area one of the ways we talked about

30:37 ↗ doing that is there's an existing access

30:39 ↗ room that we'd like to provide

30:41 ↗ vegetation and remove a portion of that

30:44 ↗ access road or potentially all of it and

30:46 ↗ work with the neighbors to do that there

30:49 ↗ are big pieces of the site that are

30:51 ↗ important we do have a lot of grade

30:53 ↗ change

30:53 ↗ it's about 80 feet of elevation

30:55 ↗ difference from 228 up to the high

30:57 ↗ school and to meet all the programmatic

31:01 ↗ needs of the site and be able to meet

31:04 ↗ you know access requirements for a TA

31:06 ↗ and other things it's a challenge it's

31:09 ↗ we need a lot of space to do that

31:11 ↗ the next piece was is the traffic and

31:14 ↗ making sure that we we do have the

31:16 ↗ queuing links that were not backing cars

31:18 ↗ up onto 228 so we've really worked on

31:22 ↗ ways to get people off 228 onto the

31:25 ↗ school site which really drove the

31:26 ↗ elementary school to the back of the

31:28 ↗ site not only from a traffic perspective

31:30 ↗ but also the safety part Michael talked

31:32 ↗ about of warning those to high school

31:34 ↗ and the elementary kids to be separated

31:36 ↗ um and finally the the idea of flipping

31:42 ↗ the football field and the parking is

31:44 ↗ something that's come up a number of

31:45 ↗ times a lot of community conversations

31:49 ↗ we've had and wanted to talk about that

31:51 ↗ one specifically so the parking lot

31:54 ↗ where it sits now for the high school

31:56 ↗ has a decent slope across this so it

32:00 ↗ doesn't have to be a large flat object

32:01 ↗ obviously a football field is completely

32:03 ↗ flat so we're able to make up 25 to 30

32:08 ↗ feet in that parking lot

32:10 ↗ that would be a large retaining wall at

32:11 ↗ the front we've also put parking

32:13 ↗ underneath that to meet our structured

32:14 ↗ parking requirements so that allows us

32:17 ↗ to make up 35 to 40 feet of elevation

32:19 ↗ difference across that parking lot which

32:22 ↗ is a really good use of space and helps

32:24 ↗ us meet the city's code and needs for

32:28 ↗ the site as well as allows us a space to

32:34 ↗ use the football code to buffer the

32:36 ↗ elementary school and the high school

32:37 ↗ students

32:40 ↗ you

32:42 ↗ Michael

32:46 ↗ thanks Todd so this is a sketch that

32:49 ↗ shows the current proposed new campus

32:51 ↗ from a bird's eye view obviously here

32:54 ↗ the lot of the landscaping will grow and

32:56 ↗ change with time but this rendering

32:58 ↗ starts to show kind of the layering of

33:00 ↗ landscape we're trying to introduce into

33:02 ↗ the site Todd just mentioned the parking

33:05 ↗ lot there which it which is predominant

33:06 ↗ in this view but in front of the

33:08 ↗ three-story high school by placing it

33:11 ↗ there we're able to step it down the

33:12 ↗ hill to maintain as much as existing

33:14 ↗ grades as possible but what that allows

33:16 ↗ us to do by maintaining grades is keep

33:17 ↗ as much existing trees to the east and

33:21 ↗ so you can see that larger growth on the

33:23 ↗ left-hand side of the image this is just

33:26 ↗ a sketch at a place in time right now

33:28 ↗ and obviously we were evolved out of

33:29 ↗ this conversation

33:31 ↗ thank you

33:36 ↗ so I think out of today we really had

33:39 ↗ three pieces we wanted to talk about the

33:42 ↗ whole project anything anyone in the

33:43 ↗ community wants to talk about but I

33:45 ↗ think there's three areas where we

33:46 ↗ really could use some some help the

33:49 ↗ first one is the far requirements um the

33:53 ↗ floor area ratio that Christina

33:54 ↗ mentioned really we are struggling with

33:58 ↗ that and trying to fit within those

34:00 ↗ guidelines um

34:02 ↗ adding square footage of the building

34:04 ↗ with the current cost of things is is

34:07 ↗ going to be challenging for the school

34:09 ↗ district to palm so so really would like

34:12 ↗ to have a conversation about that I

34:14 ↗ think the landscaping um and and what

34:17 ↗ that wants to be as far as existing

34:20 ↗ vegetation what the new vegetation wants

34:23 ↗ to be um and how to tie that into the

34:26 ↗ neighborhood in the community would be a

34:28 ↗ wonderful discussion we'd like to have

34:29 ↗ and finally the the walls the screening

34:32 ↗ of the walls because we do have so many

34:35 ↗ flat objects where we're really stressed

34:38 ↗ with space and as we started pushing the

34:42 ↗ edges of this together based on the

34:44 ↗ buffering that we're trying to do with

34:45 ↗ the neighbors you really end up with a

34:47 ↗ lot of retaining walls and so if there's

34:50 ↗ ideas people have a of reasoning why

34:53 ↗ we're doing things or a different

34:56 ↗ solution we'd love to hear that so I

35:01 ↗ agree thanks everyone for your time for

35:04 ↗ coming to the meeting tonight and and

35:06 ↗ sitting through this we really want this

35:09 ↗ to be an open dialogue and if we can

35:11 ↗ answer questions and you can help us

35:13 ↗ come up with a better project and it's

35:14 ↗ going to be part of the community for a

35:16 ↗ long time we really love that

35:18 ↗ opportunity

35:22 ↗ thank you okay so that's this is Richard

35:28 ↗ so that's the end of your the applicants

35:31 ↗ presentation that the commissioners have

35:33 ↗ any comments at this point or questions

35:37 ↗ clarifying questions

35:47 ↗ okay now here hearing none at this point

35:50 ↗ will forge ahead and I need to be chair

35:55 ↗ excuse me this is tisha deputy clerk I

35:59 ↗ see that our Arthur Schulte has a

36:01 ↗ question okay sorry all right

36:04 ↗ oh hey it's Arthur sorry apologies for

36:06 ↗ that Richard I didn't know whether I

36:08 ↗ needed a type question in the chat is

36:10 ↗ that the protocol still the type

36:11 ↗ question in the chat before speaking up

36:14 ↗ no you can just ask it now good okay

36:17 ↗ great

36:18 ↗ question for just a clarification for

36:21 ↗ the applicant could you if we can go

36:23 ↗ back to the site plan could you walk us

36:25 ↗ through the circulation on the site in

36:30 ↗ terms of emergency vehicle access

36:33 ↗ I think it would be great if you're able

36:35 ↗ to use the mouse and just kind of point

36:37 ↗ to those locations as well as follow the

36:41 ↗ path with your mouse in terms of the

36:44 ↗ circulation for emergency vehicles as

36:47 ↗ well as access into the main lot the

36:49 ↗ image was a bit small on the screen to

36:51 ↗ see but if you could that'd be great I

36:55 ↗ think it's down the r-1 absolutely and

36:58 ↗ get to the rate screaming okay so the

37:05 ↗ signalized access we're talking about

37:07 ↗ putting in is is right here I'm assuming

37:09 ↗ everybody can see my mouse oh the

37:12 ↗ existing access when you're out there

37:14 ↗ right now is about 60 feet north of that

37:17 ↗ so it's right in here

37:18 ↗ so new access at that point we come up

37:21 ↗ the hill

37:23 ↗ we arrived at this plateau right here

37:26 ↗ which would be the turnoff for the high

37:29 ↗ school so if you're going to the high

37:31 ↗ school to drop off you'd come on this

37:32 ↗ outside lane

37:35 ↗ around drop-off go back down the hill

37:38 ↗ and have be able to exit the site if

37:40 ↗ you're a student you're coming to that

37:42 ↗ same driveway you'll be able to come

37:43 ↗ into this lot and park the part the

37:46 ↗ structured parking is directly under

37:48 ↗ this portion of the lot and then leaving

37:52 ↗ you'll be able to come out there's an

37:55 ↗ access road right here or out this lower

37:58 ↗ level and back up to 28 so continuing up

38:02 ↗ the site Elementary School you continue

38:04 ↗ to come up the outside lane would take

38:07 ↗ you to the elementary school the

38:09 ↗ elementary school parking some staff

38:12 ↗ parking down below we also have staff

38:14 ↗ parking between the elementary school

38:16 ↗ and the high school along the access

38:18 ↗ road here bus traffic would continue

38:21 ↗ into the site so we have elementary

38:24 ↗ school buses landing up along the

38:26 ↗ playground area here high school buses

38:29 ↗ continuing to the back the high school

38:32 ↗ buses in elementary school buses are at

38:33 ↗ different times so it is the same buses

38:37 ↗ you won't have both of them full at the

38:39 ↗ same the same time based on staggering

38:41 ↗ the start and stop times in the schools

38:43 ↗ oh and be loading for the buses in peace

38:48 ↗ would be here service on the back of the

38:53 ↗ high school here services kind of on the

38:56 ↗ edge of the illimitable there and then

38:58 ↗ emergency vehicle access is the only

39:01 ↗ thing we're proposing back out to 228 on

39:04 ↗ the existing access drive down the hill

39:06 ↗ which is right here oh thank you that's

39:09 ↗ very helpful

39:18 ↗ [Music]

39:24 ↗ other questions or comments hello this

39:29 ↗ is richard sanford following up on the

39:32 ↗ circulation how did the buses exit after

39:37 ↗ the drop-off now at the bottom there

39:45 ↗ tarter muted

39:49 ↗ thank you um so the buses will come in

39:54 ↗ turn around and and load off this Plaza

39:57 ↗ area then they will leave out the same

39:59 ↗ direction they came the nice part about

40:02 ↗ the way this is set up is that the buses

40:04 ↗ will have the right of way because

40:06 ↗ everyone else pulling out will have stop

40:08 ↗ signs

40:09 ↗ so the buses will get to leave first

40:10 ↗ which will incentivize people to take

40:12 ↗ the bus hopefully um and come out to the

40:15 ↗ light and then turn them and disperse

40:17 ↗ through the through the community to

40:19 ↗ take the kids back home or they need to

40:23 ↗ go okay thanks and is any access to this

40:27 ↗ campus by bicycle or on foot anticipated

40:31 ↗ was that part of the circulation study

40:34 ↗ at all so we have a requirement to

40:37 ↗ provide pedestrian access to you right

40:40 ↗ away which we've done so we've we've got

40:42 ↗ it in a couple of locations we've got

40:44 ↗ sidewalks like along 228 the Lamar

40:47 ↗ furniture and then up into the site

40:50 ↗ they're also proposing a bike lane

40:51 ↗ across the frontage of 228 based on some

40:55 ↗ images on frontage requirements into the

40:59 ↗ site will have pedestrian access up this

41:02 ↗ road to both schools the 88 path the

41:06 ↗ only place the 88 path actually works to

41:09 ↗ meet slope requirements is actually this

41:10 ↗ corner so we're proposing an 88 path up

41:13 ↗ to the back of the school into the

41:17 ↗ southern entry of the high school which

41:19 ↗ would continue down to the elementary

41:21 ↗ school okay just

41:24 ↗ just one more I was wondering why you'd

41:27 ↗ show this that particular location for

41:29 ↗ the internal access Drive you said that

41:32 ↗ there was another existing drive 60 feet

41:34 ↗ from that why did you decide that that

41:37 ↗ was the optimum entry point yeah so

41:40 ↗ really it's a combination of trying to

41:43 ↗ get the get into the site elevation wise

41:47 ↗ and not eat up a ton of space on site um

41:51 ↗ with roads so if if we start moving that

41:55 ↗ road farther south it eats into where we

41:59 ↗ have the parking and creates more

42:01 ↗ grading challenges if we move it further

42:03 ↗ north there's an existing access about

42:06 ↗ right here to to 40th there that we need

42:10 ↗ to try to stay away from so that we're

42:12 ↗ not causing impacts to them so it really

42:14 ↗ fit the existing location isn't bad um

42:18 ↗ it just worked that we wanted to make an

42:20 ↗ existing road that goes up the hill is

42:22 ↗ about 15% um we really wanted to try to

42:25 ↗ get the buses on something 12 as a max

42:28 ↗ we're at like 11 and a half so creating

42:31 ↗ more length out of that allowed us to

42:32 ↗ make up that elevation difference okay

42:35 ↗ thank you that's all ahead looks like we

42:40 ↗ have a question from Kevin price hi

42:43 ↗ thank you this is Kevin price I had a

42:47 ↗ question about the traffic signals so

42:49 ↗ there is a new traffic signal slated for

42:52 ↗ the main entrance is that correct

42:55 ↗ yeah so we're we're currently working

42:58 ↗ with a traffic engineer to finish the

43:02 ↗ traffic report they have done some

43:04 ↗ enough analysis to show that we're gonna

43:06 ↗ meet the warrants for a traffic signal

43:09 ↗ so that's not a you you actually need to

43:12 ↗ prove that you need a signal which they

43:14 ↗ have done and and now we're kind of

43:17 ↗ working through the details of exactly

43:19 ↗ how many rings that needs to be and and

43:22 ↗ how to best minimize impacts to the to

43:25 ↗ the need ring traffic so has there been

43:28 ↗ a discussion around traffic signals to

43:30 ↗ the Belwood entrance or the Providence

43:33 ↗ Point entrance to the south there's been

43:37 ↗ a discussion with Sammamish about the

43:41 ↗ 40th intersection potentially which

43:43 ↗ Sammamish has been collecting money for

43:45 ↗ for years

43:46 ↗ oh and and potentially needing that with

43:50 ↗ with our project we haven't come to any

43:53 ↗ conclusions with the traffic study to

43:56 ↗ prove that yet we're I'm sorry where is

43:58 ↗ 40th is that the bell would enter its

44:01 ↗ I'm not it's it's the intersection

44:04 ↗ really close to the Belwood entrance I'm

44:06 ↗ not sure bill would actually ties

44:07 ↗ directly to that intersection it's where

44:09 ↗ the boulevard and 40 dozen I don't have

44:11 ↗ a plan that has as that intersection on

44:14 ↗ it I'm sorry okay but nothing down low

44:17 ↗ at Providence point which is it's a quat

44:20 ↗ that point right nothing there the city

44:23 ↗ does currently have a project under

44:25 ↗ construction their public works project

44:27 ↗ to put a new entrance at Providence

44:29 ↗ point okay 43rd all right thank you

44:33 ↗ that's all I had

44:35 ↗ we have a question from Commissioner

44:38 ↗ Morgan is that a quick question about on

44:42 ↗ the elementary school on the south side

44:44 ↗ of that there's a gray area I'm not sure

44:49 ↗ if that structure or asphalt or what

44:53 ↗ that is

45:00 ↗ I'm sorry can you repeat that

45:04 ↗ and over to the left on the south side

45:07 ↗ of the elementary school

45:09 ↗ right there correct yeah so that's um

45:12 ↗ it's outdoor hardscape play area so so

45:16 ↗ the way that works we'll have like

45:19 ↗ hopscotch and basketball and all those

45:24 ↗ pieces here and then their grass field

45:28 ↗ is kind of himself of that so that right

45:30 ↗ that is as part of their playground area

45:32 ↗ thank you and then the the package says

45:37 ↗ there's no lighting plan right now would

45:40 ↗ the only field lighting before the track

45:44 ↗ and field football or would there be

45:46 ↗ lighting for the baseball softball

45:49 ↗ fields as well we're not proposing to

45:52 ↗ like the baseball fields we are

45:54 ↗ proposing to light the tennis courts as

45:57 ↗ well okay thank you

46:10 ↗ Arthur has another question yes this is

46:13 ↗ Arthur thank you question for the

46:15 ↗ applicant I was you you showed us some

46:18 ↗ sections I think there was section

46:20 ↗ might've been sectioned B or it was a

46:23 ↗ section at Providence point I'm curious

46:27 ↗ actually if you could actually well

46:29 ↗ maybe the site plans on this one too I'm

46:31 ↗ curious if you could just briefly

46:33 ↗ describe the condition at the northwest

46:37 ↗ corner of that smaller baseball field

46:40 ↗ you know the graphic looks like it's

46:42 ↗ showing you know one line of trees but

46:44 ↗ because that seems like a pinch point

46:46 ↗ I'm curious as to how you guys are

46:49 ↗ planning on treating that specific

46:50 ↗ cornice yeah I'm gonna go I'm gonna go

46:52 ↗ back to the same class um so this area

46:56 ↗ right right here so that's different

46:59 ↗ yeah yeah well the topo on this site is

47:03 ↗ is such that there's a lot of cutting

47:06 ↗ and filling so that retaining wall is

47:08 ↗ actually a cut wall so the baseball

47:10 ↗ field sits lower than the existing grade

47:12 ↗ right here so we're proposing to save

47:15 ↗ some existing trees along the edge of

47:17 ↗ the property line here and then clamp

47:19 ↗ additional trees in that area and that I

47:24 ↗ can't seem to get it to add to Norg

47:30 ↗ I was going to zoom in but I think

47:33 ↗ that's possible

47:40 ↗ there

47:44 ↗ there's actually like forty feet between

47:47 ↗ the field and and that property line so

47:51 ↗ there's there's actually a decent amount

47:52 ↗ of space that the site plan really does

47:55 ↗ make it look oh look a lot smaller than

47:59 ↗ it really is I mean the site is is it's

48:02 ↗ quite large so there there's a pretty

48:04 ↗ good buffer along there and that peel

48:06 ↗ does sit down so so they'll be looking

48:08 ↗ over the top of it I understand

48:12 ↗ landscapes still in development do you

48:14 ↗ have an idea of the heights of trees

48:16 ↗ that you will be proposing in that area

48:18 ↗ along that whole stretch of the boundary

48:21 ↗ yeah we kind of go kind of back and

48:24 ↗ forth with with ideas of this Oh

48:28 ↗ that some of its the economic piece of

48:31 ↗ needing to to provide trees that are

48:35 ↗ readily available that we can get

48:37 ↗ because we are going to need a lot of

48:38 ↗ trees to plant the other part is the

48:40 ↗ smaller trees you plant seem to do

48:41 ↗ better when you actually plant them so

48:43 ↗ we're probably going to have some in the

48:45 ↗ eight-foot range will probably have some

48:46 ↗ in the 12 to 15 foot range but we want

48:50 ↗ to use we want to use the right tree in

48:52 ↗ the right spot and not just say hey

48:54 ↗ we're gonna put 8-foot trees everywhere

48:56 ↗ if there's areas where it makes sense to

48:58 ↗ have additional tree height we want to

49:00 ↗ do that in those specific areas and then

49:03 ↗ use lower costs trees that we know are

49:07 ↗ going to survive in other areas

49:13 ↗ okay thank you

49:17 ↗ we have a question from Commissioner

49:20 ↗ Bren

49:22 ↗ mr. chair so this site plan is a good

49:26 ↗ visual can you describe a little bit

49:29 ↗ more the condition at the main entrance

49:31 ↗ coming off of 228 specifically and what

49:36 ↗ are the heights of the retaining walls

49:37 ↗ that are running parallel 228 and how

49:40 ↗ they change in height along that that

49:43 ↗ edge and then secondly that on as you

49:46 ↗ enter the site do you have a cut here

49:49 ↗ for the access road with retaining walls

49:53 ↗ on the side is this kind of like going

49:56 ↗ through a hallway or is that going to be

49:59 ↗ more like a boulevard experience as you

50:01 ↗ drive up into the site more of a Gateway

50:03 ↗ entrance yeah so I'll start with the 228

50:08 ↗ the part of it and then come into the

50:10 ↗ site so the 228 um widening that we need

50:15 ↗ to do to make to make five lanes to meet

50:17 ↗ Sammamish as requirements again to meet

50:19 ↗ our traffic needs and then get bike

50:21 ↗ lanes and pieces we have a pretty good

50:24 ↗ cut into the site there so the retaining

50:25 ↗ wall if we build it um at the edge of

50:29 ↗ the right away it's between 12 and 15

50:31 ↗ feet we're currently working with an

50:33 ↗ arborist to verify that the trees along

50:36 ↗ there are going to be the right trees to

50:38 ↗ save so so the more information to come

50:42 ↗ with that piece but it's somewhere in

50:45 ↗ the 12 to 15 foot range as a max kind of

50:48 ↗ right in the center and then it tapers

50:51 ↗ off on both ends where all the way on

50:53 ↗ the north here we don't need a retaining

50:54 ↗ wall we've matched grades pretty well

50:56 ↗ and and same thing on the south end as

51:00 ↗ you come into the site we have we've

51:02 ↗ taken some trees down on both sides so

51:05 ↗ it will not feel like you're driving

51:07 ↗ down a hallway so our tree save area is

51:09 ↗ actually this dotted line that kind of

51:11 ↗ goes around here and the same thing on

51:14 ↗ this side so we're taking out some trees

51:16 ↗ on both sides to allow us to do general

51:18 ↗ slopes and really make it feel natural

51:21 ↗ there's a retaining wall that sits below

51:24 ↗ this access road there's actually two of

51:25 ↗ them there's a six foot and a four foot

51:27 ↗ retaining wall right here that comes

51:30 ↗ into the site so on this side it will

51:32 ↗ feel very very natural when we drive in

51:35 ↗ the bottom of the baseball

51:36 ↗ field right here ends up with that eight

51:38 ↗ foot retaining wall right on the corner

51:40 ↗ and it grows to about 12 feet over on

51:43 ↗ this edge and we're proposing that 12

51:45 ↗ feet actually made up with an 8 foot and

51:47 ↗ a 4 foot wall so really trying to keep

51:50 ↗ things down in scale so we don't have

51:51 ↗ this massive wall of MSE wall to test

51:57 ↗ era

52:00 ↗ thank you

52:09 ↗ any other comments

52:12 ↗ the commissioners

52:15 ↗ I have a couple would you show it for

52:19 ↗ the wet the existing wetlands are on

52:21 ↗ site absolutely Brooke Brooke would you

52:27 ↗ introduce yourself please oh yeah sure

52:32 ↗ so there's two existing wetlands

52:36 ↗ so there's wetland B which sits right

52:39 ↗ here it's about 250 square feet of

52:42 ↗ actual wetland with a buffer around the

52:45 ↗ outside of it wetland C is a an old

52:49 ↗ roadside ditch that goes along this this

52:54 ↗ road and then out through here and then

52:58 ↗ ultimately through a culvert and after

53:00 ↗ that point it's not a defined wetland

53:01 ↗ any not oh right right under this 107

53:04 ↗ mark right here is but let's see well

53:07 ↗ and B is right here

53:12 ↗ okay envy is remaining correct okay and

53:19 ↗ I thought there was tree replacement was

53:21 ↗ off-site mitigation considered but it

53:24 ↗ was going away was that an option it

53:28 ↗ it's definitely something we've talked

53:30 ↗ about I think the district if we have

53:34 ↗ the space to do our on-site and meet

53:36 ↗ some of the neighbors needs we'd like to

53:38 ↗ do that oh if if we run into not enough

53:42 ↗ area to put it on site I think we would

53:44 ↗ explore that option okay and then

53:53 ↗ the basic treatment versus enhanced

53:56 ↗ treatment for the stormwater runoff

54:03 ↗ I think

54:07 ↗ they're in the report there's something

54:09 ↗ about the threshold for

54:12 ↗ enhance treatment was greater than 50%

54:15 ↗ of pollution generated in perfect

54:18 ↗ pervious durka nothing right if you and

54:27 ↗ the employee and student parking was

54:29 ↗ excluded if you include those is it

54:31 ↗ still below 50% yeah so so our idea

54:36 ↗ really is we want to Street the right

54:40 ↗ stormwater so we're treating a lot of

54:42 ↗ the stormwater to an enhanced level on

54:44 ↗ we just we we don't want to blanketly

54:46 ↗ say the entire site needs to to be

54:48 ↗ treated and not not do a good job of

54:51 ↗ using using the money available to build

54:55 ↗ this we want to put the money in the

54:56 ↗ program if possible so the that change

55:00 ↗ for the student version if if if we need

55:06 ↗ to provide enhance treatment for this

55:07 ↗ lot it would just change that specific

55:10 ↗ area not the entire site thing so I

55:13 ↗ think there's a way to get to get

55:15 ↗ through that with the code without

55:17 ↗ treating the entire site to come up to

55:20 ↗ an enhanced level

55:30 ↗ oh sorry one more and would with the is

55:35 ↗ there a plan for the school facilities

55:37 ↗ to be open to the public

55:39 ↗ outside of

55:42 ↗ will activities are ours yeah the the

55:47 ↗ school district has has dumped out at

55:50 ↗ other schools that's something we're

55:51 ↗ we're planning to do here and the exact

55:54 ↗ details of how that happens and keycard

55:57 ↗ access your those pieces were still kind

55:59 ↗ of in the works but um that is something

56:01 ↗ that that would be proposed for the site

56:08 ↗ okay I'm good okay commissioners you'll

56:22 ↗ have a chance to ask questions and make

56:24 ↗ comments later on but at this point I'd

56:29 ↗ like to open up the public comment

56:31 ↗ question and discussion period and we're

56:34 ↗ going to be taking public input on the

56:36 ↗ proposed schools and we want to hear

56:37 ↗ your concerns and suggestions for this

56:39 ↗ project it's one of the few times that

56:41 ↗ you're going to be able to upfront be

56:42 ↗ able to make your interests and wishes

56:44 ↗ and concerns known and you know enough

56:47 ↗ time in advance to be able to

56:49 ↗ accommodate some of those change changes

56:51 ↗ if necessary and as a reminder this is

56:54 ↗ an opportunity for preliminary input on

56:56 ↗ this project a significant number of

56:58 ↗ emails have been received the comments

57:00 ↗ we hear tonight those previously made

57:02 ↗ emailed comments as well as any others

57:04 ↗ received through July 22nd will be

57:06 ↗ incorporated into a summary report of

57:08 ↗ the topics raised during this meeting

57:10 ↗ the applicant will be asked to indicate

57:12 ↗ how their full land use permits respond

57:14 ↗ to these comments this report will also

57:17 ↗ be provided to the Development

57:18 ↗ Commission and council when the full

57:20 ↗ land use permits are sent to them and

57:22 ↗ for the recommendation and decision

57:25 ↗ after approximately 30 minutes of public

57:28 ↗ comment it will ask the applicant to do

57:30 ↗ their best to briefly answer questions

57:32 ↗ posed however they will not be able to

57:34 ↗ address all the questions this evening

57:36 ↗ due to limited time however they will

57:38 ↗ respond to the topics raised in the

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57:49 ↗ more segments of 30 minutes of comments

57:51 ↗ followed by a response period of about

57:53 ↗ 10 minutes and then we plan on ending

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59:21 ↗ Oh deputy clerk Dave we're ready for you

59:24 ↗ to make your comments if you could

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59:34 ↗ you're unmuted now thank you hi my name

59:38 ↗ is Dave asthma I live at 2 2 4 3 3

59:40 ↗ southeast Hyland Lane Issaquah I

59:43 ↗ acknowledge the city's desire to hold

59:45 ↗ this conference virtually because of the

59:47 ↗ pandemic however there is simply no way

59:49 ↗ for citizens to adequately examine

59:52 ↗ virtually this project numerous plans

59:54 ↗ and site maps designed to be displayed

59:57 ↗ in full size and an open forum so I will

1:00:01 ↗ focus on three issues that I find

1:00:03 ↗ particularly egregious during the City

1:00:05 ↗ Council hearings last fall and winter on

1:00:09 ↗ this project all of the public comments

1:00:11 ↗ supporting it pleaded that it was needed

1:00:14 ↗ to relieve the overcrowding at Skyline

1:00:16 ↗ and this COIs hi I have no argument with

1:00:19 ↗ this concern however none of those

1:00:22 ↗ public comments mentioned the need for a

1:00:24 ↗ 2000 C sports stadium during those same

1:00:28 ↗ public hearings is Steve staff admitted

1:00:31 ↗ that they were reducing the planned

1:00:33 ↗ number of classrooms in the high school

1:00:35 ↗ in order to afford to build the stadium

1:00:37 ↗ this despite the fact that the school

1:00:40 ↗ could easily share Skyline Stadium for

1:00:43 ↗ sports competition while building and

1:00:45 ↗ much less expensive facilities on site

1:00:48 ↗ 14 practices and PE classes this

1:00:52 ↗ unconscionable this allocation of public

1:00:54 ↗ funds sacrifices adequate classroom

1:00:57 ↗ space for all students for the benefit

1:01:00 ↗ of only those involved in certain sports

1:01:03 ↗ competitions the project narrative on

1:01:06 ↗ the city's website clearly demonstrates

1:01:08 ↗ that ISD has failed to include enough

1:01:11 ↗ classrooms for both schools it

1:01:13 ↗ specifically states that quote portables

1:01:16 ↗ are anticipated to be added to both

1:01:18 ↗ schools I quote the 621 19 site and

1:01:22 ↗ circulation plan shows designated

1:01:25 ↗ locations for those portables also the

1:01:28 ↗ project narrative indicates that green

1:01:30 ↗ building certification for the schools

1:01:32 ↗ is not being sought to ignore proven

1:01:35 ↗ environmental environmentally sound

1:01:38 ↗ design and construction practices in the

1:01:40 ↗ climate crisis is equally unconscionable

1:01:44 ↗ furthermore the magnitude of this

1:01:46 ↗ proposal is for posture

1:01:47 ↗ when the site well the site is 41 acres

1:01:51 ↗ at least five are undeveloped about

1:01:53 ↗ giving given existing slopes and wetland

1:01:56 ↗ leaving approximately 36 acres of usable

1:01:59 ↗ space an American Planning Association

1:02:02 ↗ study entitled report on school site

1:02:05 ↗ selection documents results of their

1:02:08 ↗ nationwide survey and prefer minimum

1:02:11 ↗ site guidelines for school site size

1:02:14 ↗ results from Washington quoted in the

1:02:17 ↗ report indicate that the preferred

1:02:19 ↗ minimum site I indicates a preferred

1:02:23 ↗ minimum site size of 48 acres for an

1:02:26 ↗ 1,800 student high school well more than

1:02:29 ↗ the available land and does not account

1:02:32 ↗ for the inclusion of an elementary

1:02:34 ↗ school Skyline sits on 50 acres I asked

1:02:38 ↗ he claims that the school must have a

1:02:40 ↗ stadium so it is equal with other

1:02:42 ↗ district high schools it will not be

1:02:45 ↗ less than 36 acres does not equal 50

1:02:49 ↗ finally the current pandemic is

1:02:53 ↗ radically changing the requirements for

1:02:56 ↗ school facilities to operate safely

1:02:58 ↗ who knows when if ever current design

1:03:01 ↗ will be applicable and whatever the new

1:03:03 ↗ normal new normal turns out to be that

1:03:07 ↗ this proposal is totally silent on this

1:03:09 ↗ subject is D is again failing the

1:03:13 ↗ students and the taxpayers of this

1:03:15 ↗ community rather lack of planning for

1:03:17 ↗ future contingencies thank you

1:03:28 ↗ Thank You mr. Rosner next comment by the

1:03:32 ↗ way we're trying to limit comments to

1:03:34 ↗ three to five minutes so I'm not sure

1:03:37 ↗ who's next

1:03:39 ↗ that's is Roberto Brown

1:03:46 ↗ thank you I am following up on mr.

1:03:51 ↗ Osmond with two comments it's clear to

1:03:55 ↗ anyone feeling this layout that we in

1:03:58 ↗ fact are in the presence of a massive

1:04:00 ↗ Sport athlete complex a complex which if

1:04:05 ↗ you simply look at the area set aside

1:04:08 ↗ for chakras and disk throw me it is

1:04:12 ↗ comparable inside to the entire area if

1:04:17 ↗ I'm right designated or elementary

1:04:20 ↗ school playground

1:04:22 ↗ there's nothing about the centerpiece of

1:04:24 ↗ the entire layout is talking 2004 city

1:04:28 ↗ of complex not to be legalistic here but

1:04:32 ↗ my sense is that we need to remember

1:04:34 ↗ that the official definition comprehend

1:04:38 ↗ and use in the bond measure for the

1:04:40 ↗ designated I school has to do with

1:04:43 ↗ curriculum it means a school that

1:04:47 ↗ incorporate the full range of course

1:04:50 ↗ from technical to advanced patience and

1:04:53 ↗ college as opposed to more specialized

1:04:56 ↗ tools such as technology phonies

1:04:59 ↗ that is to say comprehensive does not in

1:05:03 ↗ any way allude to the inclusion of extra

1:05:06 ↗ curricular activity

1:05:11 ↗ these activities have nothing to do with

1:05:13 ↗ the bond issue we voted painful northern

1:05:16 ↗ centennial

1:05:17 ↗ now that said we all assumed at a school

1:05:20 ↗ which has some limited extracurricular

1:05:23 ↗ and financial team along with clubs like

1:05:27 ↗ debate drama foreign language to nemeth

1:05:29 ↗ this is all part of the American

1:05:31 ↗ tradition to that end areas like a

1:05:34 ↗ practice field permeable trash and some

1:05:37 ↗ tennis court

1:05:39 ↗ fields are assumed but it is a fast

1:05:42 ↗ physical layout and emphasis here on

1:05:46 ↗ extra-curricular sport and a cooking

1:05:48 ↗ stadium that simply must be reduced my

1:05:53 ↗ second quick comment as an insecure

1:05:56 ↗ resident I need to know that the law

1:05:58 ↗ school teachers and parents have had the

1:06:01 ↗ opportunity to decide what the academic

1:06:04 ↗ objectives and the related emphases are

1:06:06 ↗ for their school and how use of the land

1:06:10 ↗ grows out from this if the emphasis will

1:06:15 ↗ be on i.t for example is there adequate

1:06:18 ↗ classroom and lab C for instance on

1:06:21 ↗ health or the environment is there

1:06:23 ↗ adequate outdoor national state for

1:06:26 ↗ hands-on mentoring observation and

1:06:28 ↗ experimentation to conclude of two years

1:06:32 ↗ and billions of dollars in litigation

1:06:34 ↗ architectural design and property has

1:06:38 ↗ been spent

1:06:39 ↗ due to an unworkable fantasy for a

1:06:42 ↗ Sports Complex and sidelines academics

1:06:45 ↗ and the futures of our students it is

1:06:49 ↗ time to taste reality and plan for a

1:06:51 ↗ workable school

1:06:52 ↗ well that will prepare our kids for the

1:06:54 ↗ radical career shift they will be safety

1:06:57 ↗ in our climate and ongoing coated

1:07:00 ↗ endangered world the first element of

1:07:03 ↗ this reality to my mind is the

1:07:05 ↗ completion of honest

1:07:08 ↗ transparent because environmental

1:07:10 ↗ checklist number nine and the

1:07:13 ↗ requirements documents we all know that

1:07:16 ↗ this just exactly is the elephant in the

1:07:18 ↗ room

1:07:19 ↗ for this reason I find it imperative

1:07:22 ↗ that city planning not consent to

1:07:25 ↗ considering the pre-application until

1:07:28 ↗ you are provided with the project level

1:07:31 ↗ environmental assessment which according

1:07:33 ↗ to a guideline is to be completed at the

1:07:36 ↗ earliest possible moment in the project

1:07:40 ↗ moment is long overdue thank you very

1:07:43 ↗ much

1:07:49 ↗ thank you Miss Brown who's our next

1:07:52 ↗ commenter

1:07:55 ↗ the next commenter is Janelle

1:08:02 ↗ hi there my name is Janelle Tama Ayla I

1:08:06 ↗ am a resident of Issaquah my address is

1:08:10 ↗ two three three nine zero South East

1:08:13 ↗ 52nd Street nine eight zero to nine I

1:08:17 ↗ just wanted to say that I have actually

1:08:19 ↗ read the plans extensively and I've

1:08:21 ↗ listened to all the feedback and I've

1:08:23 ↗ actually attended every City Council

1:08:25 ↗ meeting in regards to the subject we

1:08:28 ↗ need this fourth comprehensive high

1:08:29 ↗ school I would like to thank the

1:08:31 ↗ numerous people who have been spending

1:08:33 ↗ so much time trying to make this project

1:08:35 ↗ work within all of the restrictions that

1:08:39 ↗ have been put forth so far without a

1:08:43 ↗ doubt this plan as submitted is exactly

1:08:46 ↗ where it needs to be I have two kids

1:08:49 ↗ currently in high school and I can tell

1:08:51 ↗ you that there are no accommodations in

1:08:53 ↗ this plan that we could do without I

1:08:55 ↗ totally understand the benefit

1:08:57 ↗ outweighing the cost and in this case

1:08:58 ↗ the cost is the perceived idea that

1:09:01 ↗ inconvenience from neighbors it has been

1:09:04 ↗ argued that perhaps some of these items

1:09:06 ↗ in the plans are not necessary but I

1:09:10 ↗ couldn't disagree with this more this

1:09:12 ↗ school has been built and designed with

1:09:16 ↗ curriculum in mind the stadium has been

1:09:19 ↗ a particular stick in point which is

1:09:21 ↗ unfounded the stadium is necessary for

1:09:24 ↗ many sports and activities not just

1:09:27 ↗ football which has been said multiple

1:09:29 ↗ times I'm not sure how that idea got put

1:09:34 ↗ out there but that is certainly not the

1:09:36 ↗ case this

1:09:39 ↗ these plans are not a Sports Complex I

1:09:43 ↗ encourage you all to visit the schools

1:09:45 ↗ will be currently have and actually see

1:09:47 ↗ what they look like

1:09:48 ↗ despite this pandemic this needs to go

1:09:51 ↗ forward because life will go on and the

1:09:53 ↗ schools will resume and space will be

1:09:55 ↗ more important than ever I ask that you

1:09:58 ↗ please approve these plans as soon as

1:10:00 ↗ possible

1:10:01 ↗ so that construction can start and we

1:10:03 ↗ can accommodate the students heart who

1:10:05 ↗ are in two packed facilities as it is

1:10:08 ↗ now thank you very much thank you mister

1:10:14 ↗ Tamela just reminding people that this

1:10:17 ↗ is open discussion we're not here to

1:10:19 ↗ make decisions but just to hear

1:10:20 ↗ different at different opinions and

1:10:22 ↗ different ideas on how we might move

1:10:23 ↗ move this forward or not so once again

1:10:27 ↗ we'll try to limit comments from four to

1:10:29 ↗ five minutes we'll go for another 15 or

1:10:32 ↗ so minutes and then we'll let the

1:10:33 ↗ applicant respond to those but who's our

1:10:36 ↗ next comic commenter the next commenter

1:10:42 ↗ who signed up is richard johnson's but

1:10:45 ↗ it doesn't appear that he's on the call

1:10:46 ↗ but it's just in case I missed him I

1:10:48 ↗ wanted to give him an opportunity

1:10:55 ↗ and it doesn't appear that is on so the

1:10:58 ↗ next commenter is Connie Marsh

1:11:04 ↗ okay so hi Connie Marsh in this process

1:11:12 ↗ somehow someone decided to put the

1:11:16 ↗ master site plan simultaneous to the

1:11:19 ↗ site development permit and because this

1:11:23 ↗ would go to the City Council this is

1:11:26 ↗ basically created a situation where

1:11:28 ↗ conversation about this is

1:11:30 ↗ quasi-judicial to the council so this is

1:11:33 ↗ effectively cut off representation by

1:11:37 ↗ our City Council and I can't tell you

1:11:41 ↗ how grumpy that makes me because you

1:11:45 ↗ this is not a pathway that's had to

1:11:47 ↗ happen the master site plan can go forth

1:11:51 ↗ individually from the site development

1:11:54 ↗ permit and then we would be able to

1:11:55 ↗ discuss these things easily with our

1:11:58 ↗ council but you bring it up and they say

1:12:00 ↗ we can't talk about it we need to solve

1:12:03 ↗ that problem and we never need to let

1:12:05 ↗ that happen again so that needs to be a

1:12:08 ↗ future code change if you can't change

1:12:10 ↗ it now

1:12:11 ↗ so with the amount of grading need to be

1:12:14 ↗ done on this site I just don't really

1:12:18 ↗ see how the existing trees that they are

1:12:21 ↗ pointing out that they're going to

1:12:22 ↗ change they are actually going to be

1:12:23 ↗ able to keep they are likely to need no

1:12:29 ↗ I don't even know if it's administrative

1:12:31 ↗ just amend the standards it might even

1:12:33 ↗ be a variance if they want to take out

1:12:35 ↗ too many trees and so you would need to

1:12:38 ↗ examine the code correctly to understand

1:12:41 ↗ what the process is for tree removal now

1:12:45 ↗ I was sort of amused by the regeneration

1:12:47 ↗ topic because in 80 years most of us

1:12:50 ↗ will not be on the planet anymore and

1:12:52 ↗ that is when most of the trees will get

1:12:55 ↗ to the size that they are not are right

1:12:57 ↗ now I would instead use the Bellevue

1:13:00 ↗ college concept which is where they

1:13:03 ↗ actually keep and build amongst the

1:13:06 ↗ existing trees and reduce the grading

1:13:10 ↗ and use their buildings to take upgrade

1:13:12 ↗ so does the grade school take upgrade

1:13:16 ↗ does the high school take

1:13:18 ↗ upgrade ten parking the underneath the

1:13:21 ↗ high school can the parking be tiered

1:13:26 ↗ more so that the tennis courts could be

1:13:28 ↗ on top of the parking lot and I agree we

1:13:32 ↗ don't need sports field interestingly

1:13:35 ↗ this compact school guidance is part of

1:13:41 ↗ our comprehensive plan and one of the

1:13:43 ↗ things that is supposed to be discussed

1:13:45 ↗ is when you do a compact school you're

1:13:49 ↗ supposed to say yeah maybe we don't need

1:13:51 ↗ some of the components that we typically

1:13:53 ↗ have in a school and that remains

1:13:57 ↗ unaddressed still because the school

1:14:01 ↗ district seems to want to just build the

1:14:03 ↗ same styles of schools that it always

1:14:06 ↗ builds which is unfortunate so I'm going

1:14:10 ↗ to go quickly to stormwater you know the

1:14:15 ↗ stormwater drains - laughing Jacob's

1:14:17 ↗ Creek which is one of our last kokanee

1:14:19 ↗ burying streams that we have so beyond

1:14:23 ↗ enhanced I think it needs to meet

1:14:25 ↗ sensitive lake standards and when you

1:14:28 ↗ look at the ability to actually increase

1:14:30 ↗ the conditions on water quality in the

1:14:33 ↗ stormwater management plan the city can

1:14:36 ↗ decide to do that as long as it has a

1:14:38 ↗ reason for it and I would say the

1:14:40 ↗ kokanee are a very adequate reason for

1:14:44 ↗ doing that to say that the students are

1:14:48 ↗ employees is is ah well that they don't

1:14:54 ↗ get paid now do they

1:14:56 ↗ so then I was worried about the

1:14:59 ↗ placement of the grade school because

1:15:00 ↗ this is a placement at the far end of

1:15:03 ↗ the lot make it so that really no grade

1:15:05 ↗ school the student could walk to school

1:15:09 ↗ which seems like an unfortunate concept

1:15:12 ↗ so then I saw on one of the original

1:15:17 ↗ slide that the buffer was going to be 15

1:15:22 ↗ feet for a critical area buffer and I

1:15:26 ↗ haven't seen any of the critical area

1:15:28 ↗ report I have not seen any of the

1:15:31 ↗ geotech reports so I would ask that

1:15:34 ↗ those be popped up immediately for

1:15:36 ↗ review because it's very hard to comment

1:15:37 ↗ intelligently without appropriate

1:15:39 ↗ information then you don't need lights

1:15:42 ↗ for tennis courts because most the time

1:15:45 ↗ you play tennis in the dry season and

1:15:47 ↗ it's dark mmm till nine o'clock at night

1:15:49 ↗ you don't play tennis too much in the in

1:15:53 ↗ the winter and so I want to reduce all

1:15:58 ↗ of the grading so that you can keep more

1:16:00 ↗ of the trees and don't reduce the FAA

1:16:05 ↗ are because our intent is to try to get

1:16:08 ↗ a new form of school that does not take

1:16:11 ↗ up so much land because we are out of

1:16:14 ↗ land and we have to rethink how we do

1:16:17 ↗ schools all together in the light of

1:16:19 ↗ that pandemic I just think all of the

1:16:22 ↗ programming for school needs to be

1:16:23 ↗ consistent reconsidered and that should

1:16:26 ↗ change the school forms that you need so

1:16:30 ↗ you don't just want to go forward

1:16:32 ↗ blindly and I'm almost done what are the

1:16:35 ↗ tallest walls then laughs this is a

1:16:37 ↗ horrifying format for conversation

1:16:40 ↗ within a community conference style and

1:16:44 ↗ I think we can do far better than that

1:16:47 ↗ and if I was on development commission I

1:16:49 ↗ would be asking for a much much better

1:16:52 ↗ pathway thank you

1:16:59 ↗ thank you we need to have another

1:17:03 ↗ commenter that's Richard Johnson who we

1:17:07 ↗ passed over before who wasn't on the

1:17:09 ↗ call is now on so Richard you're next

1:17:18 ↗ rich excuse me mr. Johnson you've been

1:17:21 ↗ unmuted

1:17:29 ↗ mr. Johnson are you on the line with us

1:17:33 ↗ I am I'm sorry I had trouble dialing in

1:17:37 ↗ that's no problem it is now time for you

1:17:41 ↗ to make your comments you have four to

1:17:43 ↗ five minutes so please begin okay think

1:17:48 ↗ okay thank you I just want to echo what

1:17:52 ↗ mr. Oscar and this Marsh just said okay

1:18:00 ↗ thank you I just want to echo the

1:18:02 ↗ comments

1:18:03 ↗ I'm Melissa Carr resident I want yes I

1:18:06 ↗ am can you hear me Oh sir mr. Johnson if

1:18:13 ↗ you could please turn down your your

1:18:15 ↗ livestream of the meeting hang on just a

1:18:19 ↗ moment actually a delay let me turn it

1:18:21 ↗ down

1:18:22 ↗ is that better it is yes thank you okay

1:18:26 ↗ I'm sorry I apologize I'll be brief I

1:18:30 ↗ just want to echo I'm I'm Richard

1:18:32 ↗ Johnson I'm a resident of Issaquah I

1:18:34 ↗ wanted I wanted to resonate on mr.

1:18:38 ↗ Oscars and miss Marcos comments please

1:18:41 ↗ take counsel of what they are telling

1:18:43 ↗ you and that is all I want to say at

1:18:45 ↗ this point so I can let you kind of

1:18:46 ↗ catch up on the last minute and thank

1:18:48 ↗ you for fitting me in after I had

1:18:50 ↗ problems getting in that's no problem

1:18:55 ↗ thank you for your comments

1:18:57 ↗ next commenter David Reeve who doesn't

1:19:04 ↗ appear to be on the call right now I

1:19:06 ↗ just want to give an opportunity in case

1:19:09 ↗ I missed him it doesn't appear that

1:19:18 ↗ David is on the call we have some people

1:19:22 ↗ who have dialed in I don't know if they

1:19:24 ↗ want to make a comment but if they would

1:19:27 ↗ like to make a comment they can hit star

1:19:30 ↗ 3 on their phone and they will be

1:19:33 ↗ identified

1:19:38 ↗ you

1:19:44 ↗ and this is tisha here I'm monitoring

1:19:47 ↗ the phone in callers I don't see that

1:19:49 ↗ anyone has raised their hand to make

1:19:52 ↗ comments I'm just going to take one more

1:19:54 ↗ look here to see if anyone has press

1:19:57 ↗ star 3

1:19:59 ↗ and it doesn't look like we have anyone

1:20:01 ↗ else on the line at this time that

1:20:03 ↗ wishes to make comment that's excellent

1:20:09 ↗ so we'll give we'll give the applicant

1:20:13 ↗ about ten minutes to respond to the

1:20:16 ↗ comments that they heard and then we'll

1:20:19 ↗ move on to getting questions clarifying

1:20:21 ↗ questions and comments from the

1:20:23 ↗ commissioners so applicant it's your

1:20:27 ↗ opportunity so thank you for the

1:20:33 ↗ comments and the opportunity to I guess

1:20:35 ↗ have this discussion um so I things

1:20:39 ↗ brought up I mean I think I'm gonna

1:20:41 ↗ start with the compact schools piece um

1:20:43 ↗ and and kind of where we are with with

1:20:46 ↗ things we have out of the school so you

1:20:50 ↗ guys have heard us talk about the

1:20:52 ↗ typography challenges and other

1:20:54 ↗ challenges we have with the site um

1:20:56 ↗ there are things we've done to this to

1:20:59 ↗ try to meet the compacts cooler cards so

1:21:02 ↗ normally a high school like this would

1:21:04 ↗ have six tennis courts we'd cut the

1:21:06 ↗ number of tennis courts to four as a way

1:21:09 ↗ to get to that we normally have practice

1:21:11 ↗ fields we don't have many practice

1:21:12 ↗ fields we're gonna have to stagger the

1:21:15 ↗ practice events with everything else

1:21:17 ↗ happening on the site the baseball field

1:21:20 ↗ is normally have a 300 foot outfield we

1:21:23 ↗ have 285 based on just site constraints

1:21:26 ↗ and trying to create buffers for the

1:21:28 ↗ neighbors um the the the school

1:21:33 ↗ reductions in in classrooms that were

1:21:37 ↗ made we're really made to try to help

1:21:40 ↗ with the budget of those we are planning

1:21:42 ↗ for future expansion of the school which

1:21:45 ↗ is why you're getting the bigger numbers

1:21:47 ↗ we're gonna open with something closer

1:21:49 ↗ to 1400 but we for the high school and

1:21:52 ↗ 550 for the elementary school but we

1:21:54 ↗ really want to be transparent and make

1:21:56 ↗ sure everyone knows that we're likely

1:21:58 ↗ going to to add to that in the future

1:22:00 ↗ and whether that's portables or that's

1:22:02 ↗ in addition to those schools is it a

1:22:05 ↗ determination that's going to have to

1:22:06 ↗ happen at a later time but we want to

1:22:08 ↗ make sure we have the ability to do that

1:22:10 ↗ as part of the steeper process

1:22:13 ↗ we are working through that SEPA process

1:22:15 ↗ as a and we'll be getting a draft out

1:22:19 ↗ shortly but we really wanted to get

1:22:21 ↗ through this process and make sure

1:22:23 ↗ everyone had an opportunity to comment

1:22:24 ↗ on on the site plan before we started

1:22:27 ↗ nailing things down if the the concern

1:22:33 ↗ would be if we went too far with the

1:22:35 ↗ site planning and wanted to make changes

1:22:38 ↗ that could cause us to make changes to

1:22:39 ↗ that SEPA document which is can be a

1:22:41 ↗ painful process so we'd want to make

1:22:43 ↗ sure we had we had the right pieces in

1:22:47 ↗ first the the grading difference using

1:22:51 ↗ buildings to make grading changes is

1:22:53 ↗ something that is included in our

1:22:56 ↗ proposal so the elementary school

1:22:57 ↗ actually steps down the hill so the the

1:23:01 ↗ wing closer I'm going to use my mouse

1:23:03 ↗ where you can see so this wing is three

1:23:06 ↗ stories this wing is two stories the

1:23:08 ↗ second wing of the elementary school is

1:23:11 ↗ on grade here so so you actually can

1:23:14 ↗ walk down or up it makes it really nice

1:23:16 ↗ for the kids to be able to get to those

1:23:18 ↗ central facilities at the front area

1:23:21 ↗ here because they're closer they're not

1:23:24 ↗ going down two flights of stairs you're

1:23:26 ↗ going down or up one flight which is

1:23:27 ↗ really nice from a program standpoint it

1:23:30 ↗ also makes it so we fit the site better

1:23:32 ↗ and we're not towering over what's

1:23:34 ↗ happening next to us so that I think

1:23:38 ↗ that piece is really important the other

1:23:40 ↗ the other part was the stormwater that I

1:23:43 ↗ guess I want to talk to a little bit so

1:23:46 ↗ the the comment about the students

1:23:49 ↗ aren't employees the I think though the

1:23:52 ↗ way our report was written was probably

1:23:54 ↗ a little um neat still needs some

1:23:58 ↗ massaging it is a preliminary report but

1:24:00 ↗ really that the idea that the stormwater

1:24:02 ↗ make the stormwater code makes is that

1:24:05 ↗ you have if you can have a commercial

1:24:08 ↗ lot which the school site falls under

1:24:11 ↗ that definition then then you need to

1:24:13 ↗ provide enhanced treatment unless it's a

1:24:16 ↗ staff parking area and the reason that

1:24:18 ↗ designation is there is not because of

1:24:20 ↗ it being staff it's because the amount

1:24:23 ↗ of turnover you get from the staff

1:24:24 ↗ parking lot so the idea that this

1:24:26 ↗ students would come in the morning stay

1:24:28 ↗ all day and leave in the afternoon I

1:24:30 ↗ need to get one trip per spot or two

1:24:33 ↗ trips per spot um similar to what this a

1:24:37 ↗ student or a staff parking area would

1:24:39 ↗ end up with was was the correlation we

1:24:41 ↗ were trying to make not that the

1:24:42 ↗ students are employees in any way shape

1:24:44 ↗ or form so I'm we're in agreement that

1:24:48 ↗ if if enhanced treatment is what the

1:24:50 ↗ city deems necessary for this site we

1:24:53 ↗ will work through that with with the

1:24:56 ↗ city and I mean we want to do the right

1:24:58 ↗ thing for the environment and all those

1:25:02 ↗ pieces but we also want to be mindful of

1:25:04 ↗ taxpayers money so if there's if there's

1:25:06 ↗ ways we can do that on using the

1:25:09 ↗ existing vegetation and things we're

1:25:11 ↗ going to look at that

1:25:12 ↗ um and the other piece the stormwater I

1:25:16 ↗ don't know that we talked in the

1:25:17 ↗ presentation about it at all but we are

1:25:19 ↗ taking this back to existing conditions

1:25:21 ↗ for a forested condition where we

1:25:24 ↗ release stormwater so we the the runoff

1:25:29 ↗ from the site is actually going to go

1:25:31 ↗ down as it as part of this project and

1:25:33 ↗ we're not we're proposing not to

1:25:34 ↗ discharge a bunch of water to problems

1:25:36 ↗ point we're actually going to take the

1:25:39 ↗ stormwater that would naturally

1:25:40 ↗ discharge on this property line and take

1:25:43 ↗ a lot of it out to 228 and go around

1:25:45 ↗ Providence point really we want to be

1:25:47 ↗ good neighbors we want to make sure

1:25:48 ↗ we're not creating adverse impacts to

1:25:50 ↗ anyone else and that's a way we've been

1:25:52 ↗ able to engineering-wise come up with a

1:25:54 ↗ solution that we think will better serve

1:25:57 ↗ neighbors

1:26:02 ↗ you

1:26:09 ↗ thank you are there any further comments

1:26:11 ↗ from the applicant I'm trying to go

1:26:14 ↗ through my notes for for what was

1:26:16 ↗ brought up I think I got

1:26:18 ↗ the ones they jotted down--if I don't

1:26:20 ↗ know if anybody from the project team

1:26:22 ↗ wants good that's good but I can add a

1:26:25 ↗ little bit about the educational program

1:26:28 ↗ one thing about this high school we

1:26:30 ↗ actually went extensive efforts and

1:26:32 ↗ studying various layouts try to get the

1:26:34 ↗ most compact high school possible we

1:26:36 ↗ actually modeled this after a Community

1:26:38 ↗ College approach going very vertical and

1:26:41 ↗ less spread out so if you see a sky look

1:26:43 ↗ a skyline and is close for example they

1:26:45 ↗ spread out in wings there's multiple

1:26:47 ↗ single storey and double storey spaces

1:26:49 ↗ this is a very tight campus stacking

1:26:52 ↗ elements on top of each other so we

1:26:54 ↗ don't actually create more impervious

1:26:56 ↗ area that's unnecessary

1:26:58 ↗ the the stack parking actually is a big

1:27:00 ↗ driver as well for limiting the

1:27:02 ↗ development of the site and one thing to

1:27:05 ↗ note is just the the stadium and the

1:27:07 ↗ athletic amenities never took away from

1:27:10 ↗ the educational program and are meant

1:27:11 ↗ actually to support the educational

1:27:13 ↗ program the the PE of activities in

1:27:17 ↗ physical education as well as outdoor

1:27:18 ↗ learning opportunities were distribute

1:27:20 ↗ around the site so kids could engage the

1:27:22 ↗ site for learning in a safe secure way

1:27:24 ↗ the the high school itself has a

1:27:27 ↗ multiple of hands-on learning

1:27:28 ↗ opportunities it it reflects a 21st

1:27:31 ↗ century learning environment that is

1:27:33 ↗ top-notch as comparison to other local

1:27:35 ↗ high schools as well as when you look at

1:27:38 ↗ local high school areas yes there's a

1:27:41 ↗ lot of there's data out there saying

1:27:43 ↗ ideal site area of you know 50 acres for

1:27:46 ↗ some schools that's that's not actually

1:27:49 ↗ very common in our in our region

1:27:51 ↗ especially in the Puget Sound region and

1:27:52 ↗ reaching into the suburbs we're often in

1:27:55 ↗ the 20 to 30 acre high school sites

1:27:58 ↗ the other comment is as much there is

1:28:01 ↗ grading we try to take advantage of

1:28:04 ↗ where there a flat portion of the sites

1:28:06 ↗ as well as areas that can be our ad a

1:28:08 ↗ needs so the high schools location its

1:28:11 ↗ elevation the elementary stepping down

1:28:12 ↗ the hill that's I all tied to where

1:28:15 ↗ there was a area that was flattened we

1:28:18 ↗ could accommodate the new school but

1:28:19 ↗ also can make accessible connections

1:28:21 ↗ throughout the campus thank you

1:28:30 ↗ okay weird I'm gonna open the close the

1:28:34 ↗ public comment period in just a minute

1:28:36 ↗ but I want to just ask if any of the

1:28:40 ↗ applicants have thought about it and

1:28:42 ↗ maybe want to make a comment or they've

1:28:45 ↗ changed their mind or they want to say

1:28:46 ↗ one more thing we can we can accommodate

1:28:49 ↗ that because we have the time to do it

1:28:50 ↗ so if anybody's been on that didn't sign

1:28:53 ↗ up or didn't want to talk and has change

1:28:55 ↗ their mind this is the time to do it and

1:28:59 ↗ carrot this is a wd city clerk tisha on

1:29:03 ↗ the line so if there is anyone on the

1:29:05 ↗ phone who would like to add to their

1:29:06 ↗ comments or make comments please press

1:29:08 ↗ star 3 on your phone and will go ahead

1:29:11 ↗ and unmute you will take a minute to

1:29:13 ↗ monitor

1:29:14 ↗ the collars

1:29:23 ↗ we're monitoring that I would just offer

1:29:25 ↗ that comments can be emailed to DSD at

1:29:29 ↗ Issaquah wah gov and you can also use

1:29:33 ↗ this email to let people know that you

1:29:35 ↗ would like to receive future updates on

1:29:37 ↗ this project so if you want to make

1:29:39 ↗ comments or want further information DSD

1:29:42 ↗ that Issaquah wad of alright and I don't

1:29:50 ↗ see that anyone has indicated a desire

1:29:52 ↗ to speak alright well then we're gonna

1:29:56 ↗ move into Commissioner comments and

1:29:59 ↗ questions the commissioners the

1:30:01 ↗ Commission is not making a decision or

1:30:02 ↗ formal recommendation tonight however

1:30:05 ↗ this is the time for Commissioner

1:30:06 ↗ questions and input on outstanding

1:30:08 ↗ issues that you believe need to be

1:30:09 ↗ addressed as part of this projects

1:30:12 ↗ future land use permit submittals so I'm

1:30:14 ↗ going to go down a list of commissioners

1:30:16 ↗ and so the first person to comment is

1:30:19 ↗ Commissioner Brennan

1:30:23 ↗ Thank You mr. chair so just some

1:30:27 ↗ questions conditional questions so there

1:30:31 ↗ was a comment about kind of sustainable

1:30:33 ↗ development or green building and lack

1:30:36 ↗ of that integration into the project and

1:30:39 ↗ I was wondering if that is in fact the

1:30:42 ↗ case or if the the design team is

1:30:47 ↗ actually working to do some sustainable

1:30:50 ↗ development on this site I think back at

1:30:52 ↗ that Issaquah high school reconstruction

1:30:55 ↗ that happened a number of years ago and

1:30:57 ↗ there was a significant amount of effort

1:30:59 ↗ put into adding sustainable development

1:31:01 ↗ features rain gardens in the parking

1:31:04 ↗ lots

1:31:04 ↗ breehn roofs and other elements that

1:31:07 ↗ actually integrated into the learning

1:31:08 ↗ environment so I don't know if there's a

1:31:10 ↗ shift in the school districts philosophy

1:31:13 ↗ or not but I was curious about that

1:31:16 ↗ feature of the project if you could

1:31:19 ↗ speak to that please Todd I can take the

1:31:22 ↗ building if you want to take the site so

1:31:26 ↗ yes actually a part of our design

1:31:28 ↗ process is organized around sustainable

1:31:31 ↗ development of the building when I

1:31:33 ↗ mentioned the compact floor plan that's

1:31:35 ↗ vertical it actually was one of the

1:31:37 ↗ biggest sustainable passive system moves

1:31:39 ↗ we could have done what we've done is

1:31:41 ↗ actually limit the amount of exterior

1:31:42 ↗ envelope which makes a highly efficient

1:31:44 ↗ okay so the more ins and outs and the

1:31:46 ↗ more square footage of wall you have on

1:31:48 ↗ the exterior the less efficient the less

1:31:49 ↗ heat gain and loss you have at your

1:31:51 ↗ building so the tightness of plan and

1:31:53 ↗ the verticality actually is a big

1:31:55 ↗ sustainable move we actually looked at

1:31:57 ↗ doing passive daylighting

1:31:58 ↗ for all of our classrooms so we have

1:32:00 ↗ ample windows at face north that

1:32:02 ↗ controlled the heat gain of the building

1:32:04 ↗ and where we have south-facing windows

1:32:05 ↗ we have sorry sun shades to control the

1:32:09 ↗ light we also looked at putting

1:32:11 ↗ skylights and clerestories at specific

1:32:14 ↗ locations so we're daylight in our

1:32:16 ↗ spaces and minimizing the loads on our

1:32:17 ↗ lighting within our buildings we have

1:32:19 ↗ high efficiency mechanical systems as

1:32:22 ↗ well as high-efficiency lighting so I

1:32:25 ↗ think there are a lot of sustainable

1:32:27 ↗ elements within the building we just we

1:32:29 ↗ just did not submit for the Washington

1:32:33 ↗ State sustainability protocol

1:32:34 ↗ ssp

1:32:36 ↗ yeah from then from a site perspective I

1:32:40 ↗ I think we probably didn't talk about it

1:32:42 ↗ as much as we could have doing during

1:32:44 ↗ the presentation because the code has

1:32:46 ↗ has gone so far in the last 10 years or

1:32:49 ↗ so that um that we do have rain gardens

1:32:53 ↗ and things located on the site to treat

1:32:55 ↗ stormwater we're trying to minimize the

1:32:58 ↗ footprint of impervious surfaces we're

1:33:02 ↗ using pervious materials for the track

1:33:06 ↗ and then around the outside of the

1:33:09 ↗ sports fields so there's things we're

1:33:12 ↗ doing that that we're definitely not

1:33:14 ↗ talking about um because I think that

1:33:16 ↗ the the code has come a long ways and

1:33:19 ↗ those are basically requirements at this

1:33:21 ↗ point so

1:33:25 ↗ thank you so I'll ask another question

1:33:30 ↗ then I'll pass it off and probably have

1:33:32 ↗ some additional after other

1:33:34 ↗ commissioners the way in so the there

1:33:37 ↗ was quite a bit of discussion both in

1:33:39 ↗ the presentation and in the staff report

1:33:42 ↗ and the applicant narrative around FA

1:33:45 ↗ are and the challenges of accomplishing

1:33:47 ↗ the code required FA are points at 0.75

1:33:52 ↗ so the and you speak a little bit about

1:33:57 ↗ what you're suggesting in opportunities

1:34:04 ↗ to try to accomplish that and then maybe

1:34:07 ↗ a question for staff you mentioned that

1:34:09 ↗ there is a separate process to do a

1:34:12 ↗ reduction in the FA R and B I'm curious

1:34:15 ↗ about what that process is

1:34:21 ↗ and so maybe I'll start with what what

1:34:24 ↗ we what we're asking for um so what we

1:34:29 ↗ want to do we are going to have a lot of

1:34:32 ↗ space on this site that's not

1:34:33 ↗ developable and as far as the FAA our

1:34:35 ↗ doesn't help us

1:34:36 ↗ so areas that don't help us are any of

1:34:40 ↗ the roadways on the site and obviously

1:34:42 ↗ we're not lucky enough to be downtown

1:34:44 ↗ Issaquah or somewhere where we even have

1:34:46 ↗ roads that are already around the site

1:34:48 ↗ that don't they don't count um that

1:34:52 ↗ we're not able to use existing public

1:34:54 ↗ right away to to get to our sites we're

1:34:56 ↗ in a building of a lot of area for that

1:34:58 ↗ if we could take that or the bus storage

1:35:00 ↗ area out of the FA our that would be

1:35:03 ↗ super helpful we have tree save

1:35:06 ↗ requirements we're doing that along 228

1:35:09 ↗ um that doesn't help us with the FAA are

1:35:12 ↗ so taking those tree save areas out of

1:35:14 ↗ that calculation would be huge to help

1:35:17 ↗ us meet that the outdoor classroom or

1:35:20 ↗ the outdoor program areas so we're going

1:35:23 ↗ to use all these fields tennis courts

1:35:27 ↗ for part of the curriculum um those

1:35:30 ↗ those come out of the equation that we

1:35:32 ↗ don't get credit for building outdoor

1:35:34 ↗ program area if we were able to count

1:35:36 ↗ that up with our program area as

1:35:37 ↗ building area that would help the

1:35:40 ↗ equation a time um if the dish if if

1:35:44 ↗ there was an ability to put trails and

1:35:46 ↗ things in this forest and count count

1:35:51 ↗ that forest as outdoor learning space

1:35:53 ↗ and take it out of the equation that

1:35:55 ↗ would that would help I think there's a

1:35:56 ↗ lot of um kind of gray areas of the code

1:36:00 ↗ though that we would like to explore and

1:36:03 ↗ we've done a lot of that with city staff

1:36:05 ↗ to date I think we've gotten to the

1:36:07 ↗ point where we're probably pushing a

1:36:10 ↗ little harder than all pushing on some

1:36:12 ↗ of those edges a little more than

1:36:13 ↗ anybody's control with and really wanted

1:36:15 ↗ to open that conversation up to make

1:36:17 ↗ sure everyone's able to say hey that's

1:36:20 ↗ that's far enough or you know yeah if

1:36:22 ↗ you want to take the trees out of the

1:36:24 ↗ front that makes sense to us

1:36:27 ↗ so then the second part of the question

1:36:29 ↗ was a process question sounds like there

1:36:33 ↗ is a process a separate process was

1:36:36 ↗ described to deal with this if they are

1:36:40 ↗ question

1:36:41 ↗ can one stab them or describe what that

1:36:43 ↗ process is commissioner Brennan this is

1:36:47 ↗ Cristina there is a process for an

1:36:51 ↗ administrative adjustment of the FA our

1:36:53 ↗ standards in the compact schools

1:36:56 ↗ regulations in the Municipal Code but FA

1:37:01 ↗ are could be reduced by 50% which is

1:37:05 ↗ where the point three seven five number

1:37:08 ↗ comes from that's an administrative

1:37:14 ↗ process that still has public comment

1:37:18 ↗ opportunities as part of it as well

1:37:20 ↗ right and that director is the

1:37:22 ↗ decision-maker on the administrative

1:37:24 ↗ adjustment standards correct so just a

1:37:29 ↗ curiosity out of so the FA are the

1:37:33 ↗ higher f AR is actually driving more

1:37:35 ↗ development on the property which in a

1:37:38 ↗ school facility like this would actually

1:37:40 ↗ suggest you need to be a bigger school

1:37:43 ↗ buildings and at a higher school

1:37:45 ↗ population so it seems given what our

1:37:49 ↗ traditional school needs are it seems

1:37:53 ↗ like a challenging requirement in my

1:37:57 ↗ mind for a to set that kind of a minimum

1:38:02 ↗ requirement for school facilities like

1:38:04 ↗ this but all that other commissioners

1:38:06 ↗ weigh in on that particular point and

1:38:10 ↗ suggestions on other options to include

1:38:14 ↗ buildable area or usable area as part of

1:38:18 ↗ that floor area in the calculation for

1:38:21 ↗ FA are so thank you one clarification

1:38:24 ↗ I'd like to make quickly is we are not

1:38:27 ↗ submitting for WS SP on the elementary

1:38:29 ↗ school because we are not eligible

1:38:31 ↗ we are medium WS SP on the high school

1:38:33 ↗ building so that's just one

1:38:35 ↗ clarification great

1:38:39 ↗ [Music]

1:38:43 ↗ okay Mel Commissioner Brendan is that

1:38:47 ↗ are you done for the moment

1:38:50 ↗ you got the chair I'll uh I'll pass the

1:38:52 ↗ microphone okay pet will pass the

1:38:54 ↗ microphone to Commissioner Morgan thank

1:38:59 ↗ you sure so the a couple questions one

1:39:04 ↗ on the staff report on page 17 of 19 in

1:39:08 ↗ the report under the sports field

1:39:11 ↗ lighting it says I think third sentence

1:39:15 ↗ these standards restrict lighting levels

1:39:16 ↗ to no more than five percent of the

1:39:18 ↗ illumination illuminating Engineering

1:39:21 ↗ Society of North America publishes for

1:39:23 ↗ high school stadiums is that is that

1:39:26 ↗ intended to be spillover or in

1:39:30 ↗ understand with that man

1:39:32 ↗ [Music]

1:39:38 ↗ commissioner this is this is Christina

1:39:40 ↗ sorry bear with me one moment while I

1:39:42 ↗ pull up that page of the staff report

1:39:43 ↗ please sure it was right after talking

1:39:49 ↗ about shielding and glare reduction and

1:39:51 ↗ impacts on adjacent properties

1:39:56 ↗ yes so the lightning standards for

1:40:03 ↗ sports complexes are they are tied to

1:40:08 ↗ the IES na standards and I'm just

1:40:11 ↗ navigating to the section of the code

1:40:13 ↗ that represents

1:40:22 ↗ the the lighting levels aren't

1:40:25 ↗ specifically referencing spillover

1:40:30 ↗ so that 5% does that mean that they

1:40:34 ↗ you can't have more than 5% of the light

1:40:37 ↗ still over there are recommended levels

1:40:42 ↗ of illumination so you couldn't exceed

1:40:46 ↗ those recommended levels by more than 5%

1:40:48 ↗ oh I get it okay so that would be to no

1:40:54 ↗ more than 105 percent of the standard

1:40:57 ↗ then right with that would be okay all

1:41:01 ↗ right thank you

1:41:02 ↗ and then a question on this the site

1:41:07 ↗ planned the trees that are along the

1:41:11 ↗ border that would be on the I guess the

1:41:13 ↗ northwest and the Southwest borders like

1:41:17 ↗ alongs were there sports stadium are I

1:41:19 ↗ guess maybe a question for Todd with

1:41:22 ↗ what all the existing trees within a

1:41:25 ↗ landscape or setback area would all

1:41:28 ↗ those trees be maintained we

1:41:38 ↗ we are proposing to save trees where we

1:41:42 ↗ can so there there's areas along there

1:41:44 ↗ where we are saving trees in in the the

1:41:48 ↗ first 15 feet or so of that buffer

1:41:51 ↗ there's areas where we're not so I it's

1:41:53 ↗ not a blanket this one-size-fits-all um

1:41:58 ↗ so when some treaties be taken out right

1:42:01 ↗ up to the property line possibly

1:42:04 ↗ potentially and it really comes down to

1:42:07 ↗ and kind of where we are in the process

1:42:09 ↗ we're staking the clearing limits we're

1:42:11 ↗ gonna walk the the perimeter of what

1:42:13 ↗ we're proposing within our wrists and

1:42:15 ↗ verify that we can actually save those

1:42:17 ↗ trees or if we need to pull grading away

1:42:20 ↗ from some of those trees to make that

1:42:22 ↗ work that's something we're still in the

1:42:23 ↗ process of doing what I don't want to do

1:42:26 ↗ is is tell you we're gonna save a tree

1:42:29 ↗ and then find out that we got to be 40

1:42:31 ↗ feet from it and it by yourself the

1:42:33 ↗ baseball field so we're trying to work

1:42:35 ↗ through that piece it's definitely it's

1:42:37 ↗ a it's a balancing act of of how close

1:42:40 ↗ to the tree can you grade and not impact

1:42:42 ↗ it and is it the right tree to save and

1:42:45 ↗ those pieces so so we're gonna look at

1:42:47 ↗ it on an individual basis and walk the

1:42:49 ↗ perimeter um once we get that stake next

1:42:51 ↗ week okay is that dusting like a fairly

1:42:55 ↗ significant aspect of this in terms of

1:42:57 ↗ putting ball fields right next to

1:42:59 ↗ residential extent those because they're

1:43:02 ↗ fairly tall trees they're also and then

1:43:06 ↗ the other question I had was on the the

1:43:09 ↗ architecture of the high school and I

1:43:13 ↗ don't know if this maybe fall under

1:43:15 ↗ comment but sort of a question or way

1:43:17 ↗ about them I think it said I'm not sure

1:43:20 ↗ what pages is in the package but I and

1:43:23 ↗ it doesn't say it's the high school

1:43:24 ↗ exterior elevation but I think it is in

1:43:29 ↗ the East and South and West elevations

1:43:32 ↗ seem to have a lot of gray metal panels

1:43:37 ↗ and what I presume to be the vertical

1:43:39 ↗ members that I presume to be lights on

1:43:43 ↗ the sides of the buildings but I'm not

1:43:45 ↗ really sure that like on the South

1:43:47 ↗ elevation the

1:43:50 ↗ sort of the dark lanes that go up to a

1:43:52 ↗ box and I'm not sure if that's a light

1:43:54 ↗ or not but I guess maybe you can talk

1:43:57 ↗ some about the to me that the parents on

1:44:02 ↗ the the east south and west elevations

1:44:04 ↗ seems to be fairly harsh in terms of

1:44:07 ↗ blank metal walls so I can take that one

1:44:13 ↗ so the elevations in the east south and

1:44:15 ↗ the west it's not really a dull gray

1:44:19 ↗ it's more of kind of a almost light

1:44:21 ↗ silvery there's a head sense of sparkle

1:44:23 ↗ to kind of play off the light and then

1:44:25 ↗ this surrounding landscape will kind of

1:44:28 ↗ cast shadows and light on those walls

1:44:30 ↗ where the vertical elements you're

1:44:32 ↗ referring your are not referring to our

1:44:34 ↗ downspouts so that's just controlling

1:44:36 ↗ storm water that comes off the roof in

1:44:38 ↗ turns we also were highlighting kind of

1:44:43 ↗ overall concept the building is trying

1:44:44 ↗ to reference the worst and how there's a

1:44:46 ↗ variety of trees and there's kind of a

1:44:48 ↗ verticality to it and so we have accent

1:44:50 ↗ materials that reference the bark of

1:44:52 ↗ bark of a tree and give texture as well

1:44:56 ↗ as have a lot of glass at kind of key

1:44:58 ↗ focal points so where we have like

1:45:00 ↗ loading docks and kind of service zone

1:45:01 ↗ it's ok ik we're looking to supplement

1:45:04 ↗ those areas with green screens and

1:45:06 ↗ landscape begin to further connect to

1:45:08 ↗ the surrounding environment but those

1:45:09 ↗ key program elements like the primary

1:45:11 ↗ Commons the student courtyard those are

1:45:14 ↗ very glassy and light so it's not meant

1:45:16 ↗ to be a dull gray building there's meant

1:45:18 ↗ to be almost a sense of sparkle to it

1:45:19 ↗ it's it's hard when you have flat

1:45:21 ↗ elevations and just colors not to to get

1:45:24 ↗ that kind of shine

1:45:28 ↗ okay thank you

1:45:34 ↗ and that's it Germans oh thank you next

1:45:40 ↗ we'll have Commissioner price thank you

1:45:49 ↗ can everybody hear me looks like I'm

1:45:52 ↗ still being okay it's so commissioner

1:45:55 ↗ Brendon really touched on my question

1:45:58 ↗ with respect to the meeting the minimum

1:46:01 ↗ floor area ratio criteria and and I

1:46:05 ↗ guess my question was more to build on

1:46:09 ↗ it maybe because I don't quite

1:46:11 ↗ understand it is is one of the

1:46:13 ↗ possibilities future grow and adding on

1:46:17 ↗ to this these facilities what does that

1:46:20 ↗ look like

1:46:22 ↗ how would you add on to these facilities

1:46:24 ↗ and just can you talk a little bit to

1:46:29 ↗ that there was some talk of temporary

1:46:32 ↗ buildings but then is there also a plan

1:46:35 ↗ for future permanent buildings and

1:46:38 ↗ additions to these to these structures

1:46:41 ↗ can you speak to that a little bit I

1:46:43 ↗ just don't understand how you'll really

1:46:45 ↗ expand what's proposed here

1:46:49 ↗ it yeah I can I can take a shot at that

1:46:54 ↗ so that

1:46:57 ↗ I'll show you my spinning ball I'm gonna

1:46:59 ↗ share my screen again because they I

1:47:01 ↗ think pointing it so now more helpful

1:47:03 ↗ than me trying to talk to this

1:47:09 ↗ so just we'll talk pawn up the site plan

1:47:12 ↗ the school is actually planned with that

1:47:15 ↗ expensive expansion in mind so right now

1:47:19 ↗ to the west of where that cursor is that

1:47:21 ↗ is our student athletic Plaza it's it's

1:47:23 ↗ quite a large plaza and the reason it's

1:47:26 ↗ its size is that we're able to expand

1:47:28 ↗ the classroom wings to the west there to

1:47:30 ↗ add additional capacity okay but that's

1:47:33 ↗ it there's no future plans to go up

1:47:35 ↗ necessarily we do not plan on going

1:47:38 ↗ vertical and then wonder points that

1:47:41 ↗ just general budget or demand or both

1:47:47 ↗ yes it's the both the arm got the other

1:47:51 ↗ piece of adding on to this as we start

1:47:53 ↗ having other program needs so the the

1:47:56 ↗ parking is generated by the amount of

1:47:58 ↗ students we have and the amount of

1:48:00 ↗ classrooms we have so if we start

1:48:02 ↗ needing more putting more students on

1:48:06 ↗ this site we start needing more

1:48:07 ↗ classroom space or in a more parking

1:48:09 ↗ space obviously that we're pretty

1:48:12 ↗ limited on on the area we have so that

1:48:15 ↗ would be you know another layer on the

1:48:17 ↗ structured parking or something to make

1:48:19 ↗ those so it becomes shirts becoming very

1:48:21 ↗ cost prohibitive to try to continue to

1:48:23 ↗ add to this site yeah and that was

1:48:26 ↗ really my question to is how do you add

1:48:28 ↗ on and what is the the subsequent impact

1:48:30 ↗ of of the other facilities from a

1:48:34 ↗ traffic perspective from a parking

1:48:36 ↗ perspective etc so I'm just trying to

1:48:38 ↗ find a balance for if there is an

1:48:41 ↗ adjustment of the minimum far what what

1:48:44 ↗ are our relief valves here and and so

1:48:48 ↗ just trying to surround that issue and

1:48:50 ↗ understand it more

1:48:52 ↗ you also had mentioned that there's sort

1:48:55 ↗ of two phases of grow or a build-out

1:48:58 ↗ that are going to happen in the first

1:48:59 ↗ days isn't well I guess the question is

1:49:04 ↗ is what's represented here the full

1:49:06 ↗ build-out or is this the phase one so so

1:49:10 ↗ what we have shown - the portables so so

1:49:15 ↗ we do have some some areas where we need

1:49:17 ↗ to potentially could add portables if we

1:49:22 ↗ the tube

1:49:23 ↗ would be 1400 students for the high

1:49:26 ↗ school and 550 students for the

1:49:29 ↗ elementary school the capacity in the

1:49:32 ↗ future we could get to the 2500 students

1:49:36 ↗ on-site so so we have and and the

1:49:40 ↗ parking accounts for the bigger number

1:49:42 ↗ because adding the parking now is

1:49:44 ↗ somewhat costly adding it in the future

1:49:46 ↗ would be really costly so we are trying

1:49:48 ↗ to do the right thing to allow allow

1:49:50 ↗ growth in the future

1:49:51 ↗ we just want to make sure that that

1:49:54 ↗ we're doing it in a way that the you

1:49:56 ↗ know we're using using the money we have

1:49:58 ↗ wisely and putting the right pieces into

1:50:00 ↗ the program okay thank you and then I

1:50:04 ↗ just had one more question I've I've

1:50:06 ↗ heard some comments from the public

1:50:07 ↗ regarding the the sports field it's been

1:50:10 ↗ referred to as a stadium from what I can

1:50:13 ↗ see it's really just a field surrounded

1:50:15 ↗ by a track is there proposed bleacher

1:50:18 ↗ space or structured seating that isn't

1:50:22 ↗ shown here could you describe the field

1:50:25 ↗ a little bit

1:50:26 ↗ absolutely so the field has seating on

1:50:29 ↗ both sides so the home seating would be

1:50:33 ↗ on this side with a covered covered

1:50:35 ↗ seating hung on the

1:50:40 ↗ the blest side of this and then the

1:50:43 ↗ visitor seating is along the east side

1:50:46 ↗ along here it's it's zoom in a little

1:50:49 ↗ bit

1:50:49 ↗ GNC it's it's really our idea our site

1:50:53 ↗ is pinched east to west so as you start

1:50:56 ↗ expanding things we really need to make

1:50:59 ↗ those areas long and skinny so they

1:51:01 ↗ don't show up at this scale real well

1:51:03 ↗ but but so we've we've tried to extend

1:51:06 ↗ them so instead of having you know a

1:51:08 ↗ really deep bleacher right at the

1:51:09 ↗ 50-yard line it's gonna be spread out no

1:51:12 ↗ down most of the field the other thing

1:51:15 ↗ to note is it's far from a Sports

1:51:17 ↗ Complex in the sense of if you look at

1:51:19 ↗ skyline skyline has a lot of stadium and

1:51:22 ↗ Sports Complex specific program within

1:51:24 ↗ the stadium itself so they have several

1:51:26 ↗ team rooms support space storage

1:51:29 ↗ changing rooms lockers those type in a

1:51:32 ↗ separate building we got actually since

1:51:34 ↗ we were trying to do a more compact

1:51:35 ↗ school we combine those elements within

1:51:37 ↗ the high school and we use that Athletic

1:51:40 ↗ Plaza as the transition so the locker

1:51:42 ↗ rooms this the team rooms that are

1:51:44 ↗ included within the high school and

1:51:46 ↗ something we get almost of what we were

1:51:47 ↗ referred to as a twofer so we get double

1:51:49 ↗ duty out of those spaces they can be

1:51:50 ↗ used during the school day and then

1:51:52 ↗ during an event they can be used as well

1:51:54 ↗ by student athletes okay then can you

1:51:57 ↗ explain to me why we're on the top of

1:51:59 ↗ the sports field what the two different

1:52:01 ↗ fields are at the top of the plan I

1:52:04 ↗ assume they're baseball fields maybe I'm

1:52:07 ↗ showing my ignorance why are they two

1:52:09 ↗ different side so one's a softball field

1:52:12 ↗ which has a different distant

1:52:14 ↗ requirements that's the one on the west

1:52:15 ↗ that the cursor is on right now the one

1:52:17 ↗ on the right is the baseball field

1:52:19 ↗ typically we would be in the 300 or 350

1:52:22 ↗ range for outfield lines we reduce this

1:52:24 ↗ so it reduces the impact on the site as

1:52:26 ↗ I think Todd mentioned earlier to 285 if

1:52:29 ↗ you look at ones at skyline in Issaquah

1:52:32 ↗ there's also area and there they're out

1:52:34 ↗ fields that accommodate practice fields

1:52:36 ↗ or soccer type fields we do not have

1:52:38 ↗ that luxury on the site just we just

1:52:40 ↗ have the site area okay and then

1:52:43 ↗ probably another really stupid question

1:52:44 ↗ I don't play baseball or softball you

1:52:47 ↗ couldn't you couldn't share those fields

1:52:49 ↗ and the function and just have two sets

1:52:51 ↗ of

1:52:53 ↗ I don't know could you share those

1:52:55 ↗ functions not really it's not I've not

1:52:59 ↗ seen it done

1:53:00 ↗ sometimes they orient baseball fields

1:53:02 ↗ and softball fields at each other and do

1:53:05 ↗ a combined outfield that would have a

1:53:07 ↗ very similar footprint to what we're

1:53:09 ↗ showing here and actually make

1:53:11 ↗ accessibility and circulating around

1:53:13 ↗ that feels quite difficult but in terms

1:53:17 ↗ of a shared infield no there's different

1:53:19 ↗ distances for plates and pitching mounds

1:53:21 ↗ things along those lines okay that's all

1:53:24 ↗ I have thank you okay one thing I want

1:53:30 ↗ to remind people as we have people on

1:53:31 ↗ the phone and so when you talk please

1:53:33 ↗ identify yourself that would be really

1:53:36 ↗ helpful for the people that can't see us

1:53:38 ↗ and so I'd appreciate that our next

1:53:40 ↗ Commissioner to speak is Richard Sanford

1:53:44 ↗ Commissioner Sanford

1:53:45 ↗ thanks chairman solo this Richard

1:53:47 ↗ Sanford back to the softball and

1:53:51 ↗ baseball fields so this area obviously

1:53:55 ↗ there's been a lot of discussion about

1:53:57 ↗ how close those are to the surrounding

1:53:58 ↗ neighborhoods we have a lot of real

1:54:02 ↗ estate between the outfield fence of the

1:54:05 ↗ baseball field and 228 is there a reason

1:54:09 ↗ that those fields are shifted toward I

1:54:12 ↗ guess that's the west or Northwest or

1:54:14 ↗ could they be shifted more toward 228

1:54:18 ↗ what's the trade-off there I'm guessing

1:54:20 ↗ it's a grading topography issue

1:54:24 ↗ this is about this is Todd sawing again

1:54:27 ↗ um the it is a grading trade-off so

1:54:31 ↗ we're cutting um dirt from the high

1:54:34 ↗ school site so to make the accessibility

1:54:36 ↗ stuff we talked about earlier work we're

1:54:39 ↗ putting that dirt in this area so it's a

1:54:41 ↗ balancing act

1:54:42 ↗ um the to get accessibility to the

1:54:46 ↗ baseball field we kind of need to be at

1:54:47 ↗ the elevation roughly of this

1:54:50 ↗ intersection and we looked at moving

1:54:51 ↗ that around a little bit but really it

1:54:54 ↗ comes down to your building to fairly

1:54:58 ↗ large flat objects and these aren't

1:55:00 ↗ different planes so we have done a

1:55:01 ↗ little bit with that Plaza to the deal

1:55:03 ↗ with some of the grading but but you end

1:55:06 ↗ up with a some retaining walls and

1:55:08 ↗ basically this retaining wall here if we

1:55:11 ↗ start pushing it farther east

1:55:13 ↗ it grows significantly so so there's 35

1:55:17 ↗ feet of elevation difference from here

1:55:19 ↗ down the street and so the farther we

1:55:22 ↗ pushed that way the more routine will

1:55:23 ↗ you end up with without of that so it's

1:55:26 ↗ really the the grading piece trying to

1:55:28 ↗ minimize export minimize retaining walls

1:55:31 ↗ and and that within the city's code for

1:55:34 ↗ for retaining walls we're proposing that

1:55:38 ↗ we're not going to need a bunch of

1:55:39 ↗ adjustments for the retaining walls were

1:55:41 ↗ showing right now we've got them all

1:55:43 ↗ down in the eight-foot range on wissen

1:55:46 ↗ tearing than things we've done um so

1:55:48 ↗ it's really trying to balance the code

1:55:49 ↗ and those pieces this is Michael Davis

1:55:52 ↗ one other thing to add to that there's a

1:55:55 ↗ question earlier about our entry

1:55:56 ↗ sequence and if it's like going in a

1:55:58 ↗ hallway or kind of park like Boulevard

1:56:01 ↗ and so that was a big driver actually

1:56:03 ↗ when we pushed the field to the east and

1:56:06 ↗ enlarged the field the wall on that

1:56:08 ↗ Boulevard entry got quite tall and it

1:56:10 ↗ gave that heart that hallway like

1:56:13 ↗ feeling and we really wanted a natural

1:56:16 ↗ environment with the existing grade so

1:56:17 ↗ that was a big driver as well okay so

1:56:21 ↗ that's the trade-off

1:56:23 ↗ was there any slack in terms of moving

1:56:26 ↗ at east in terms of the code and wall

1:56:28 ↗ height yeah in other words could that

1:56:30 ↗ field had been moved a bit farther to

1:56:33 ↗ the right we're really talking about

1:56:36 ↗ rather small distances here to try to

1:56:38 ↗ get it away from Providence point over

1:56:39 ↗ there

1:56:41 ↗ yeah it ends up being you know 5 feet or

1:56:44 ↗ something and we start having we start

1:56:46 ↗ gaining wall this thing slope there is

1:56:49 ↗ it it's it's 2 to 1 so for every foot we

1:56:55 ↗ move over we gain half a foot of wall

1:56:57 ↗ height so if you start adding very much

1:57:00 ↗ to it we start we start gaining wall

1:57:03 ↗ hides really quickly okay and I guess

1:57:06 ↗ you walked all through the orientation

1:57:07 ↗ of those and spun him around with you

1:57:10 ↗ the walls maybe the outfield and clean

1:57:12 ↗ the other direction and this just turned

1:57:14 ↗ out to be your optimum design we yeah

1:57:17 ↗ and we went through a lot of reasons so

1:57:19 ↗ this is Todd so I want again be on the

1:57:22 ↗ how to orient those um the optimal is

1:57:27 ↗ orientation would actually be the other

1:57:28 ↗ direction um with with them flipped but

1:57:31 ↗ then you'd have the back stops and the

1:57:35 ↗ kind of the back of the field right at

1:57:36 ↗ the entry for the school which is not

1:57:38 ↗ ideal you'd also have us hitting

1:57:40 ↗ baseballs into some neighborhoods which

1:57:46 ↗ still well while there may have been two

1:57:49 ↗ trade-offs from a from a baseball

1:57:51 ↗ standpoint and we thought this better

1:57:54 ↗ fit the neighborhood and the entry

1:57:56 ↗ sequence significantly better okay

1:57:59 ↗ so at the corner of Redfield corner of

1:58:03 ↗ the softball field over there where it's

1:58:05 ↗ the closest point is that the area that

1:58:07 ↗ Christina showed in the opening slides

1:58:10 ↗ that looked at like almost an open space

1:58:12 ↗ between your property and Providence

1:58:15 ↗ point you could actually see it I

1:58:17 ↗ believe a Providence point building

1:58:19 ↗ through that clearing in that earlier

1:58:20 ↗ slide yeah this the clearing is this is

1:58:23 ↗ this gap in the trees the mouse is on

1:58:25 ↗ right right now some grasses v area so

1:58:28 ↗ our proposal is to put a so this field

1:58:31 ↗ sits down so this is actually a cut wall

1:58:33 ↗ so they won't see this wall probably

1:58:35 ↗ look over the top of it and then we're

1:58:36 ↗ putting a berm in this area

1:58:39 ↗ over the top which will hopefully once

1:58:42 ↗ the trees grow up provide them a buffer

1:58:44 ↗ they don't currently have okay that was

1:58:46 ↗ the berm that we saw earlier okay yeah

1:58:48 ↗ okay just one other areas to try to meet

1:58:52 ↗ you're far I wanted to look down at that

1:58:55 ↗ gray area outside the elementary school

1:58:57 ↗ the Commissioner Morgan called attention

1:58:58 ↗ to later but was just wondering just off

1:59:02 ↗ the top if there's anything you could do

1:59:04 ↗ down there that might help you if they

1:59:07 ↗ were I've part of that gray area were

1:59:10 ↗ like covered and it was a performing

1:59:13 ↗ kind of drama musical space and so on

1:59:16 ↗ would that qualify or is that excluded

1:59:19 ↗ in terms of your car calculation also so

1:59:23 ↗ this is Todd again the arm the far

1:59:27 ↗ calculation allows us to remove outdoor

1:59:31 ↗ curriculum areas and so the good the

1:59:34 ↗ elementary school playground we have

1:59:36 ↗ removed from that from that space so so

1:59:40 ↗ this area does come out of that

1:59:42 ↗ calculation it just comes straight out

1:59:44 ↗ of the calculation if we got to count it

1:59:46 ↗ as actual building space that I would

1:59:49 ↗ that would help the calc um but the

1:59:51 ↗ definition of building obviously outdoor

1:59:53 ↗ program space doesn't exactly fall

1:59:55 ↗ within um so I think that was the area I

1:59:59 ↗ think I was pushing a little too hard on

2:00:01 ↗ and there would be an outdoor performing

2:00:03 ↗ space then and that would not be

2:00:05 ↗ included in the calculation okay Cooper

2:00:07 ↗ okay that's all I have thank you thank

2:00:12 ↗ you our next Commissioner to comment is

2:00:15 ↗ dick short

2:00:20 ↗ hello with the far ratio issue is that

2:00:26 ↗ something that school sites generally

2:00:28 ↗ have you think it might be a common

2:00:31 ↗ anger yeah this is this is Todd so that

2:00:36 ↗ it's it's relatively I'm not gonna see

2:00:39 ↗ it's a new idea because it's something

2:00:40 ↗ that's been around in commercial design

2:00:42 ↗ for a long time um schools or something

2:00:45 ↗ you're usually exempt from it so as soon

2:00:47 ↗ as you get into like a community space

2:00:49 ↗ zoning usually like a school district in

2:00:51 ↗ a city would work that out kind of

2:00:53 ↗ between them um but the the farfrae's

2:00:57 ↗ 'equal my understanding is a relatively

2:00:59 ↗ new code I don't think a high school has

2:01:02 ↗ been built under I think a middle school

2:01:03 ↗ is currently under construction under it

2:01:05 ↗ so the idea that that we're having some

2:01:08 ↗ challenges in needing to to find

2:01:10 ↗ flexibility in that with a relatively

2:01:12 ↗ new code doesn't doesn't surprise me um

2:01:14 ↗ it's it's definitely a little wrinkle to

2:01:18 ↗ add add to the project

2:01:21 ↗ okay you mentioned MSE wall type and did

2:01:31 ↗ you guys consider any other wall type

2:01:33 ↗ the minimise tree removal or general

2:01:38 ↗ site work yeah so we actually have this

2:01:42 ↗ is Todd again we have a number of walls

2:01:45 ↗ on site so the walls along 228 next to

2:01:49 ↗ the tree save area we're proposing to do

2:01:52 ↗ as soil nail wall so we don't have the

2:01:54 ↗ temporary cuts to make up those areas a

2:01:58 ↗ lot of the other walls on our site are

2:02:02 ↗ fill walls so MSE walls aren't going to

2:02:04 ↗ impact those trees so that that really

2:02:08 ↗ we tried to get rid of cut walls they're

2:02:10 ↗ they're really expensive to build it

2:02:12 ↗ causes additional excavation it causes

2:02:14 ↗ impacts to two neighboring properties so

2:02:16 ↗ where we could we tried to make fill

2:02:18 ↗ walls fit the site and that generally

2:02:21 ↗ because there's so much topography

2:02:23 ↗ difference in the center of the site

2:02:25 ↗ we're cutting dirt and looking for

2:02:26 ↗ places to put it that it just kind of

2:02:28 ↗ naturally ended up that way

2:02:34 ↗ there were several public comments on

2:02:36 ↗ noise coming I think from the entire

2:02:39 ↗ site but also the sports field are there

2:02:41 ↗ considerations for that

2:02:50 ↗ you I take that Michael yeah sure

2:02:53 ↗ this is Michael Davis so yes it is

2:02:56 ↗ something we've looked at extensively

2:02:57 ↗ we've actually during the planning of

2:03:00 ↗ the process we've tried to depress the

2:03:02 ↗ field to lower the grade so we could

2:03:04 ↗ mitigate this sound slightly we also we

2:03:07 ↗ also looked at in closing the back of

2:03:09 ↗ the bleep the bleachers to the west hand

2:03:12 ↗ side and then any sort of any sort of

2:03:16 ↗ sound system would be pointed at the

2:03:18 ↗ opposite direction or intercom system

2:03:21 ↗ excuse me

2:03:22 ↗ so we so basically then closure kind of

2:03:24 ↗ acts as a barrier to the sound of

2:03:26 ↗ Providence point I those are pretty much

2:03:30 ↗ the primary thing we've done do to

2:03:32 ↗ reduce noise at this point I don't know

2:03:34 ↗ if you haven't be out of there Todd

2:03:37 ↗ now I mean we've looked at some other

2:03:40 ↗ ideas I think what we've been told by

2:03:41 ↗ the the noise consultant is short the

2:03:47 ↗ the berming and things we thought were

2:03:48 ↗ going to have big impacts have some

2:03:50 ↗ impact but not not as much as we'd hoped

2:03:53 ↗ yeah that you know if we built an 8-foot

2:03:56 ↗ CMU raw wall that would actually not

2:03:58 ↗ mitigate mitigate that noise much at all

2:04:00 ↗ our berming is doing basically the same

2:04:02 ↗ thing the Berman and landscaping we'd

2:04:04 ↗ have to actually have a wall to be very

2:04:06 ↗ effective it have to be very very tall

2:04:08 ↗ we're also using the landscape at that

2:04:11 ↗ you know any barrier element that is you

2:04:14 ↗ know in the way of noise axes somewhat

2:04:17 ↗ of a barrier so it kind of dissipates

2:04:19 ↗ the sound so the landscaping in the edge

2:04:21 ↗ of the sites will help it slightly it

2:04:23 ↗ won't make I wouldn't argue it's going

2:04:26 ↗ to make a 50% reduction or anything

2:04:28 ↗ along those lines it will all be kind of

2:04:29 ↗ minor smaller scale reductions

2:04:32 ↗ we against this tot again the one the

2:04:34 ↗ one I think we are proposing the PA

2:04:36 ↗ system and and that to be directional so

2:04:39 ↗ we're trying to point that away from the

2:04:43 ↗ neighbors so the home grandstands and

2:04:45 ↗ things being pointed you know towards

2:04:48 ↗ 228 that that was intentional that the

2:04:50 ↗ the goal of that was trying to project

2:04:52 ↗ that away from the neighbors the best we

2:04:55 ↗ could with with the site layout we ended

2:04:57 ↗ up with

2:05:00 ↗ okay with the pandemic obviously nobody

2:05:07 ↗ knows what's going to happen is the is

2:05:12 ↗ that being considered at all future

2:05:14 ↗ compatibility with the unknown

2:05:29 ↗ sorry

2:05:31 ↗ I was given what tom was going to not

2:05:36 ↗ been Tom Mullins director capital

2:05:41 ↗ projects know nothing specific to Co vid

2:05:47 ↗ is being put into the design

2:05:51 ↗ other than possible some plastic shields

2:05:54 ↗ of reception desks and things like that

2:05:56 ↗ I don't think changing the design of a

2:05:59 ↗ of a high school for something that we

2:06:02 ↗ could may not be here or may not be as

2:06:07 ↗ large of a concern in two years was

2:06:11 ↗ something we considered we would if we

2:06:14 ↗ did we would have to do that for all of

2:06:16 ↗ our schools existing

2:06:25 ↗ okay that's the end of my question Thank

2:06:31 ↗ You Arthur schulthise our final

2:06:36 ↗ Commissioner and then we have one more

2:06:38 ↗ one more comment to be made that's our

2:06:40 ↗ third year next sure this is Arthur

2:06:43 ↗ Schulte I've got a few few different

2:06:45 ↗ questions for you so continuing the

2:06:47 ↗ discussion of the FA are there was a

2:06:49 ↗ reference or a mention to portables you

2:06:53 ↗ know first of all could you point out on

2:06:54 ↗ the site where those would be located

2:06:57 ↗ and if those were calculated as part of

2:06:59 ↗ a part is that part of the FA our second

2:07:03 ↗ question is regarding the the baseball

2:07:06 ↗ fields up to the north continuing the

2:07:11 ↗ discussion of exploring the continued

2:07:14 ↗ option of shifting them to the left

2:07:16 ↗ did the design team explore the

2:07:18 ↗ possibility of stepping down the larger

2:07:21 ↗ field you know by a foot or so it seems

2:07:24 ↗ like there's adequate space between the

2:07:27 ↗ fields to create a slope of some sorts I

2:07:30 ↗ don't know if it's sloping already or

2:07:32 ↗ not was that explored you know if

2:07:36 ↗ there's an opportunity to shift 10 feet

2:07:39 ↗ for a drop of one foot I don't know

2:07:42 ↗ maybe it's worth it but you know curious

2:07:45 ↗ of the design team explored that yeah so

2:07:49 ↗ this is this is Todd so I went again the

2:07:53 ↗ so right now there's about 30 inches of

2:07:55 ↗ difference between the softball field

2:07:58 ↗ and the baseball field so we are making

2:08:00 ↗ up some some elevation difference

2:08:02 ↗ between there moving it to create more

2:08:05 ↗ space was looked at it ends up causing

2:08:10 ↗ um so if we lower that field for every

2:08:13 ↗ foot we lower the field there's that

2:08:15 ↗ dirt has to go somewhere

2:08:16 ↗ um and it ends up being export because

2:08:18 ↗ there's when you we've kind of talked

2:08:21 ↗ through this I plan there's not another

2:08:22 ↗ place to go quit do it on this site so

2:08:24 ↗ we end up having to start exporting dirt

2:08:27 ↗ really quickly so so it's definitely

2:08:30 ↗ something we can we can explore is just

2:08:32 ↗ there's some significant construction

2:08:35 ↗ cost impacts to start lowering a few

2:08:39 ↗ and then your first comment about the

2:08:43 ↗ Horrible's um

2:08:45 ↗ no in Sacramento for a second so the

2:08:47 ↗ elementary school we've we've shown

2:08:51 ↗ locations for for future portables and

2:08:53 ↗ so the idea there these dashed lines are

2:08:55 ↗ here so one here here and here just

2:08:59 ↗ south of the proposed elementary school

2:09:03 ↗ that they the guidance from the state

2:09:06 ↗ the W SSP Washington sustainable

2:09:09 ↗ sustainable schools protocols that

2:09:11 ↗ Michael alluded to that we well the that

2:09:14 ↗ we are designed to redesign every school

2:09:16 ↗ that we do two to at least look at those

2:09:18 ↗ we need to look at growth that's one of

2:09:21 ↗ the requirements of that and that's

2:09:22 ↗ something we've included for this site

2:09:24 ↗ so the other ones in front of the high

2:09:27 ↗ school here we did include those in the

2:09:30 ↗ floor area ratio calculations they're

2:09:34 ↗ really small spaces they they don't

2:09:36 ↗ really help us if we wanted to just for

2:09:39 ↗ reference if we wanted to meet the 0.75

2:09:41 ↗ FA archers book building on our site we

2:09:44 ↗ need to build 400,000 square feet ad for

2:09:47 ↗ a thousand square feet of building

2:09:48 ↗ obviously that's not something we have

2:09:50 ↗ the budget for or the ability to do um

2:09:53 ↗ but um it it kind of shows how we do

2:09:59 ↗ need some help with with some creative

2:10:01 ↗ thinking to get us through that okay

2:10:03 ↗ thank you and in addition to that this

2:10:07 ↗ is Arthur again regarding those

2:10:09 ↗ portables as you think about future

2:10:10 ↗ expansion in terms of the architectural

2:10:14 ↗ material and the design aesthetics of

2:10:16 ↗ those portables are you thinking they

2:10:18 ↗ would mimic similar materials colors to

2:10:22 ↗ the to the larger buildings

2:10:27 ↗ we this is Todd again we've looked we've

2:10:31 ↗ located um places for those to go we

2:10:34 ↗ have not gotten into the details of what

2:10:37 ↗ those would look like in the future

2:10:38 ↗ it'd be great if they fit the the

2:10:40 ↗ program of that no they're temporary in

2:10:44 ↗ nature so you end up you know with

2:10:46 ↗ something you're trying to move from a

2:10:48 ↗ different site so matching the the

2:10:52 ↗ aesthetics of it exactly is tough the

2:10:54 ↗ paint's probably a good way to do that

2:10:57 ↗ yeah I think this is Michael again I

2:10:59 ↗ think that's the thing to emphasize is

2:11:01 ↗ that the portables are a short-term

2:11:02 ↗ solution and not meant to be their

2:11:04 ↗ long-term it's just a dress initially

2:11:07 ↗ you know the initial capacity needs

2:11:08 ↗ until an expansion can take place

2:11:17 ↗ you

2:11:23 ↗ this is Arthur again I've got a

2:11:25 ↗ apologies I don't wanna take over the

2:11:28 ↗ mic but question regarding the colors

2:11:30 ↗ colors are the buildings is that

2:11:33 ↗ something that set in stone or you is

2:11:35 ↗ the design steam still exploring that um

2:11:37 ↗ you know looking at some of the base you

2:11:40 ↗ know darker colors some of the gray

2:11:41 ↗ colors

2:11:42 ↗ it doesn't necessarily scream forest or

2:11:46 ↗ nature to me and in terms of thinking

2:11:49 ↗ how it's gonna blend with the

2:11:51 ↗ surrounding you know trees and

2:11:52 ↗ landscaping I'm just curious you know

2:11:55 ↗ how set in stone you guys are regarding

2:11:57 ↗ the colors I think it's a work in

2:11:59 ↗ progress I think a lot of the things

2:12:01 ↗ those elevation it's it's a large bill

2:12:03 ↗ I'm sorry this is Michael Davis again

2:12:04 ↗ sure it's such a large building one

2:12:08 ↗ thing that's lost in those over are

2:12:09 ↗ elevation are the textures and how light

2:12:12 ↗ touches the materials there is there's

2:12:15 ↗ definitely a great light quality but

2:12:17 ↗ there's textures that very similar to

2:12:19 ↗ bark there's a there's a metal panel

2:12:22 ↗ that's brown it has the appearance of

2:12:24 ↗ bark so we are we are we are our goal is

2:12:28 ↗ to reference the forest forest by

2:12:30 ↗ material and verticality of the

2:12:32 ↗ materials but at this point I want to

2:12:34 ↗ say anything is fully set in stone we're

2:12:37 ↗ looking for comments and looking for

2:12:39 ↗ different explorations we can we can

2:12:41 ↗ have

2:12:47 ↗ this is Arthur again I guess a question

2:12:49 ↗ for staff will the Commission be

2:12:53 ↗ reviewing the buildings that are at a

2:12:56 ↗ deeper level at a later point in regards

2:12:58 ↗ to the elevations more in depth the

2:13:02 ↗ service areas more in depth is that to

2:13:05 ↗ come this is this is Christina so yes

2:13:11 ↗ that will be part of the review of the

2:13:14 ↗ full master site plan in site

2:13:17 ↗ development permit applications when

2:13:18 ↗ that gets to you okay thank you

2:13:20 ↗ Christina

2:13:21 ↗ could I add one I am though this is

2:13:24 ↗ Lucy's Loma and land-bound and manager

2:13:27 ↗ Christina is absolutely correct that

2:13:29 ↗ there will be more information but it

2:13:32 ↗ may not given the Commission's

2:13:34 ↗ experience with for instance a design

2:13:37 ↗ manual in central Issaquah where we have

2:13:41 ↗ very specific standards the level of

2:13:44 ↗ standard is not as detailed in this part

2:13:48 ↗ of town so while you will receive

2:13:51 ↗ information it will probably not be the

2:13:54 ↗ same degrees to another

2:13:58 ↗ thank you

2:14:06 ↗ [Music]

2:14:10 ↗ commissioner salty is that in your

2:14:12 ↗ comments um I have one more this is

2:14:18 ↗ Arthur again I there was a there was a

2:14:21 ↗ request from the applicant earlier in

2:14:25 ↗ today's meeting regarding help on you

2:14:30 ↗ know screening some of the walls I guess

2:14:33 ↗ a question first of all for the

2:14:34 ↗ applicant is you know have you looked at

2:14:37 ↗ all the opportunities to provide the

2:14:40 ↗ terraced walls where you think they

2:14:42 ↗ belong and where you think you can

2:14:44 ↗ accommodate them or there's still large

2:14:47 ↗ scale blank walls that you think

2:14:50 ↗ terracing could help yeah this is again

2:14:58 ↗ I'm gonna share the same thing with

2:15:01 ↗ change you guys want me to leave it up

2:15:04 ↗ I'm more than happy I'm just it seems

2:15:05 ↗ you know I'm so there's two areas I

2:15:09 ↗ think we would appreciate input so this

2:15:13 ↗ we haven't talked about we have a look

2:15:15 ↗ out on the end of our walkway that comes

2:15:19 ↗ out here and the idea is that you're

2:15:22 ↗ gonna have the opportunity to walk out

2:15:23 ↗ on the end of this boardwalk and look

2:15:25 ↗ over this natural area there's a

2:15:28 ↗ retaining wall underneath it obviously

2:15:31 ↗ there's a ton of vegetation gonna panic

2:15:33 ↗ restart terracing that wall we either

2:15:35 ↗ cut into the vegetation on the wetland

2:15:38 ↗ side of this or we cut back into a play

2:15:41 ↗ field um neither of which seem like good

2:15:44 ↗ solutions so I think that wall is is one

2:15:49 ↗ that will move like we need how but the

2:15:52 ↗ other the other location there's not a

2:15:55 ↗ good way to screen the wall at the

2:16:01 ↗ softball field so this cut wall on the

2:16:05 ↗ inside of the softball field um will not

2:16:08 ↗ have an scaping in front of it the way

2:16:11 ↗ we currently have it designed because we

2:16:12 ↗ have the field going right up to it if

2:16:15 ↗ we wanted to put manscaping there we'd

2:16:17 ↗ have to move the wall back

2:16:19 ↗ there which would cause us to impact the

2:16:20 ↗ buffers and things we're proposing with

2:16:22 ↗ the neighbors it's also going to be a

2:16:24 ↗ maintenance issue for the district in

2:16:26 ↗ the future because um you're gonna have

2:16:29 ↗ you know a tunnel behind the fence for

2:16:32 ↗ the baseball for the softball field so

2:16:35 ↗ putting landscaping there doesn't make

2:16:37 ↗ sense the way people are gonna see it of

2:16:38 ↗ people on that field and so I think

2:16:41 ↗ those are the two locations you're

2:16:42 ↗ looking for well I think your comment

2:16:48 ↗ again this is art there I think your

2:16:50 ↗ comment earlier about walking the

2:16:52 ↗ perimeter with an arborist will be a

2:16:54 ↗ very key key action item in this

2:16:59 ↗ development because I think I think

2:17:01 ↗ you'll find out a lot in terms of you

2:17:02 ↗ know which trees can be protected which

2:17:04 ↗ can't you know because by the time you

2:17:07 ↗ start adding these retaining walls with

2:17:09 ↗ foundations who knows what kind of

2:17:11 ↗ impact is going to have on the roots

2:17:12 ↗ right so I think I think you know we'll

2:17:17 ↗ obviously find out more as we get more

2:17:19 ↗ information from you guys depending on

2:17:22 ↗ what the discoveries are on-site

2:17:26 ↗ absolutely I am you know we have just to

2:17:29 ↗ clarify we have walked the site with the

2:17:31 ↗ arborist twice already

2:17:33 ↗ haven't had the formal clearing limb at

2:17:35 ↗ stake so I mean we have pretty good

2:17:38 ↗ direction at this point there since I

2:17:40 ↗ think there's about thirty specific

2:17:42 ↗ trees that I have questions about um it

2:17:46 ↗ defined and this area specifically need

2:17:49 ↗ one of them that that cut wall really

2:17:51 ↗ really works with saving a couple of

2:17:54 ↗ trees behind there and trying to not

2:17:56 ↗ impact the neighbors any further than we

2:17:58 ↗ need to

2:17:59 ↗ yeah thank you so Commissioner Morgan

2:18:10 ↗ has another question and so turn the

2:18:14 ↗ time over to him yes thank you chair the

2:18:17 ↗ quick one ms marsh mentioned the site

2:18:22 ↗ draining - laughing Jacob's Lake which

2:18:24 ↗ is to the east it's what I confirm I

2:18:27 ↗ think I read in the wetlands report that

2:18:29 ↗ the portion of the site that would

2:18:32 ↗ naturally drain west would drain towards

2:18:34 ↗ Lake Sammamish eventually in the portion

2:18:37 ↗ that naturally drains East would go -

2:18:39 ↗ laughing Jacobs Zachary

2:18:42 ↗ yeah and this is this is talking and

2:18:44 ↗ beyond that's correct

2:18:46 ↗ the the this site we didn't really talk

2:18:50 ↗ about this at all you zoom out just a

2:18:52 ↗ little bit um there's a ridge that's an

2:18:56 ↗ existing Ridge that runs to a site kind

2:18:58 ↗ of through the baseball field up to the

2:19:00 ↗ high school and so the southeast or the

2:19:03 ↗ southwest area so this portion drains to

2:19:07 ↗ Sammamish Lake Sammamish ultimately it

2:19:09 ↗ goes right now it goes through

2:19:11 ↗ Providence according to Lake Sammamish

2:19:12 ↗ we're proposing some of the lower areas

2:19:15 ↗ the elementary school still discharge

2:19:17 ↗ that direction but the majority of our

2:19:20 ↗ stormwater from that Basin will make it

2:19:22 ↗ out to 228 so we will reduce the amount

2:19:24 ↗ of flow going to the Providence point

2:19:26 ↗ system this North Basin goes out to

2:19:32 ↗ 228 then ultimately to laughing Jacobs

2:19:35 ↗ through a long down stream to get there

2:19:38 ↗ yes that's all hopefully where it ends

2:19:40 ↗ up okay great thank you very much

2:19:42 ↗ that's it and Commissioner Commissioner

2:19:50 ↗ Brennan had another question

2:19:54 ↗ Thank You mr. chair so just one more

2:19:56 ↗ question on the thinking about all kind

2:19:58 ↗ of bigger thinking about the site layout

2:20:00 ↗ and there's a requirement for structured

2:20:02 ↗ parking you described how you integrated

2:20:04 ↗ that into the site and now you're

2:20:06 ↗ addressing that step down and occurs as

2:20:08 ↗ you head to the east 2028

2:20:10 ↗ was there ever consideration of putting

2:20:13 ↗ the parking under the under the athletic

2:20:17 ↗ field and pushing the athletic you know

2:20:18 ↗ to the east so you're integrating that

2:20:22 ↗ on top of some of the structured parking

2:20:24 ↗ and maybe a economic issue but at least

2:20:28 ↗ just from a site configuration pulling

2:20:31 ↗ the athletic field to the east away from

2:20:34 ↗ the neighborhood's as of consideration

2:20:37 ↗ so was that something that you thought

2:20:40 ↗ about yeah so this is this is Todd Sawa

2:20:44 ↗ knee in the arm that is something we

2:20:46 ↗ talked about we we actually for a long

2:20:48 ↗ time had the I had concepts that had

2:20:52 ↗ parking under the tennis courts we

2:20:55 ↗ talked about parking under the athletic

2:20:56 ↗ fields but the tennis courts probably

2:21:01 ↗ had less issue than the thing the

2:21:03 ↗ athletic field did um but but there's

2:21:06 ↗ the economic side of that is pretty big

2:21:09 ↗ parking garages stacking like uses it's

2:21:13 ↗ something that that people are used to

2:21:14 ↗ when you start putting other uses on top

2:21:16 ↗ of them especially when those uses have

2:21:18 ↗ really tight tolerances like a tennis

2:21:21 ↗ court or a football field

2:21:22 ↗ um it drives the cost of those up and

2:21:27 ↗ it's not conventional construction that

2:21:28 ↗ somebody is used to the other piece for

2:21:31 ↗ the for the field is you really want the

2:21:34 ↗ field and built on one plane and one

2:21:35 ↗ surface so having it where it would be

2:21:38 ↗ on potentially a portion of it on the

2:21:41 ↗ existing ground and a portion of it on a

2:21:45 ↗ structure of some type causes some

2:21:48 ↗ problems reading a differential

2:21:49 ↗ settlement and things so from a warranty

2:21:51 ↗ issue there were some concerns about the

2:21:53 ↗ track and the field standing up for a

2:21:56 ↗ really long time but we do want this to

2:21:57 ↗ you know to last 50 plus years so

2:22:00 ↗ between that I think we ended up with

2:22:03 ↗ doing a somewhat conventional structured

2:22:07 ↗ parking made more

2:22:08 ↗ since then than some of the other

2:22:09 ↗ options we explored so just to add one

2:22:12 ↗ thing to that this is Michael Davis a

2:22:15 ↗ large chunk of this parking is going to

2:22:17 ↗ be student parking and safety and

2:22:19 ↗ security clear sight lines eliminating

2:22:23 ↗ hidey-holes for kids to get into trouble

2:22:24 ↗ that's one of the other challenges we

2:22:26 ↗ had when we were putting a good chunk of

2:22:28 ↗ the parking under a field it was almost

2:22:30 ↗ not supervised Abul and became more of a

2:22:34 ↗ site safety and security issue as well

2:22:37 ↗ thank you

2:22:41 ↗ you

2:22:44 ↗ so I'll ask for one more more chance for

2:22:48 ↗ commissioners to ask questions or make

2:22:51 ↗ comments anybody

2:23:00 ↗ okay mr. chair are we going to have a go

2:23:04 ↗ through around a sort of final comment

2:23:06 ↗ suggestions

2:23:06 ↗ [Music]

2:23:08 ↗ to the applicant we can do that why

2:23:15 ↗ don't we do that if that it seems to be

2:23:18 ↗ so why don't you lead off commissioner

2:23:22 ↗ Morgan sure thank you very much first of

2:23:26 ↗ all thank you to the applicant to

2:23:27 ↗ Christina for ever presentation the

2:23:30 ↗ applicant for both the presentation

2:23:32 ↗ certainly all the answers on a very

2:23:34 ↗ complicated project and then especially

2:23:37 ↗ to the members of the public that are

2:23:39 ↗ been listening in for a long time and

2:23:42 ↗ providing them to a both light by email

2:23:45 ↗ and tonight on the phone or the computer

2:23:48 ↗ just a couple of quick things that stand

2:23:51 ↗ out for me on this I think one of the

2:23:53 ↗ key issues would be maintaining as much

2:23:56 ↗ existing forestation that we can along

2:24:00 ↗ the border of properties to the north

2:24:03 ↗ and northwest and Southwest to the

2:24:07 ↗ extent that the as many trees as

2:24:09 ↗ possible can be kept there I think is

2:24:12 ↗ very helpful the one of my I guess main

2:24:19 ↗ concerns would be the view of this

2:24:20 ↗ property from 228 which i think is

2:24:23 ↗ really only going to be the south east

2:24:26 ↗ and the south and the east portion of

2:24:29 ↗ the high school really would be the only

2:24:33 ↗ visible and to be honest I I never been

2:24:37 ↗ pleased with the view from Issaquah Pine

2:24:40 ↗ Lake Road of the East End or the

2:24:44 ↗ southeast end of the plain Lake middle

2:24:46 ↗ school that was rebuilt there and it was

2:24:49 ↗ in the city of Sammamish so Issaquah had

2:24:52 ↗ no control over it but if you drive

2:24:54 ↗ along as well fine link road we end up

2:24:56 ↗ with the back of the building some

2:24:58 ↗ mechanical equipment so forth to chase

2:25:00 ↗ the road and so my concern I think the

2:25:03 ↗ the east side of the high school it is

2:25:06 ↗ elevated above 228 but I'm very

2:25:10 ↗ concerned about it looking at some of

2:25:13 ↗ the things that appear to be on the

2:25:15 ↗ south east portion of the building

2:25:18 ↗ I guess the southern half of the east

2:25:20 ↗ side and then what would be

2:25:22 ↗ the eastern portion of the South

2:25:23 ↗ elevation those would be my concerns

2:25:27 ↗ that that we don't treat those as backs

2:25:29 ↗ of buildings given that there's that

2:25:33 ↗ possibility that people driving by there

2:25:35 ↗ that's what they really see of the high

2:25:37 ↗ school from 228 so I'd like you to make

2:25:40 ↗ some take special attention to those

2:25:45 ↗ portions again thank you very much

2:25:50 ↗ Thank You Commissioner Brennan final

2:25:53 ↗ comments or thoughts Thank You mr. chair

2:25:56 ↗ kind of similar comments to the

2:25:58 ↗ Commissioner Morgan on a couple points

2:25:59 ↗ that he made for repeating about Justin

2:26:01 ↗ Odom just a preservation of trees and

2:26:04 ↗ existing vegetation and trees along the

2:26:07 ↗ perimeter particularly between the

2:26:09 ↗ residential uses

2:26:11 ↗ and then the as far as the the building

2:26:14 ↗ design is concerned of the kind of a

2:26:17 ↗ large blank wall condition and I

2:26:19 ↗ understand about the plate light etc on

2:26:21 ↗ the building but you know there are a

2:26:23 ↗ lot of times of the year many times you

2:26:26 ↗ know during the winter months except for

2:26:27 ↗ we don't have a lot of shadowing going

2:26:29 ↗ on it so I'm just the look of the

2:26:31 ↗ building is very going to be industrial

2:26:34 ↗ institutional a bit it may be it's the

2:26:37 ↗ selection of colors a deeper gray kind

2:26:40 ↗ of the blank wall vertical lines

2:26:42 ↗ condition so anything you can do to

2:26:45 ↗ break the the blank wall conditions up

2:26:48 ↗ add more interest maybe lighten the

2:26:50 ↗ color maybe a more earth tone that goes

2:26:53 ↗ into the natural environment that you're

2:26:56 ↗ that you've articulated that is your

2:26:58 ↗ your palette I guess for the project so

2:27:01 ↗ on the building design and then the the

2:27:03 ↗ other comment or my final comment is

2:27:04 ↗ really related to what's going on along

2:27:07 ↗ 228 and that is we've got 12 to 15 foot

2:27:12 ↗ high retaining walls and I believe the

2:27:14 ↗ staff have expressed some concern about

2:27:16 ↗ this condition as well the pedestrian

2:27:19 ↗ environment walking along a very busy

2:27:21 ↗ road with what it will probably be a

2:27:23 ↗ fairly narrow sidewalk is pretty

2:27:26 ↗ intimidating so we really need to find a

2:27:29 ↗ way to soften up that front

2:27:31 ↗ along 228 breaking it up with tiered

2:27:34 ↗ walls maybe tiered walls with the

2:27:37 ↗ vegetation maybe some architectural

2:27:41 ↗ interest in the concrete and then

2:27:43 ↗ anything we can do to buffer between the

2:27:46 ↗ pedestrian environment and the road

2:27:48 ↗ itself since it is like I said a fairly

2:27:50 ↗ busy high speed relatively the the speed

2:27:54 ↗ limit through there is about forty miles

2:27:55 ↗ an hour that's a little bit of an

2:27:57 ↗ intimidating pedestrian environment that

2:28:00 ↗ hopefully will evolve into the future

2:28:02 ↗ it's not someplace that currently

2:28:04 ↗ invites a lot of people walking well the

2:28:06 ↗ challenging even to ride your bike

2:28:07 ↗ through there but anyway just a

2:28:09 ↗ something to be attentive to to make

2:28:12 ↗ sure we're thinking ahead about the

2:28:13 ↗ pedestrian experience on that frontage

2:28:17 ↗ of the project thank you for all of the

2:28:20 ↗ work in developing the project this to

2:28:22 ↗ this point

2:28:23 ↗ I appreciate knowing how many hours have

2:28:26 ↗ gone into this with not only the design

2:28:29 ↗ team but staff but also the community

2:28:31 ↗ and this has been I know a very active

2:28:34 ↗ discussion with the community and I hope

2:28:37 ↗ and appreciate their continued

2:28:41 ↗ engagement as this project proceeds

2:28:43 ↗ forward so thank you

2:28:46 ↗ Thank You Commissioner price final

2:28:49 ↗ comments

2:28:53 ↗ yes this is Kevin price Thank You mr.

2:28:56 ↗ chair

2:28:57 ↗ I think my parting words were just to to

2:29:02 ↗ make sure you understand the

2:29:03 ↗ responsibilities you have and I think

2:29:06 ↗ you know this to the neighboring

2:29:07 ↗ retirement communities I think there's

2:29:11 ↗ there's there's gonna be the usual

2:29:14 ↗ issues with any school noise light glare

2:29:20 ↗ traffic safety etc but I think there's

2:29:25 ↗ going to be an even finer point put on

2:29:28 ↗ it where where those communities are

2:29:30 ↗ concerned so I would just encourage you

2:29:33 ↗ to vet all those issues because I think

2:29:36 ↗ I think they're going to be of

2:29:38 ↗ significant importance to the community

2:29:40 ↗ and to us as a commission so thank you

2:29:43 ↗ for your presentation and we'll talk to

2:29:47 ↗ you soon

2:29:48 ↗ Commissioner Sandford Thank You mr.

2:29:52 ↗ chairman

2:29:52 ↗ Richard Sandford I just didn't want to

2:29:56 ↗ give up quite yet on the softball field

2:29:58 ↗ in the baseball field if there's any

2:30:00 ↗ other creative approach that you could

2:30:02 ↗ bring to that so that we can retain some

2:30:05 ↗ of the trees along that border line of

2:30:07 ↗ Providence point that would be great if

2:30:09 ↗ there's anything else we can do there I

2:30:11 ↗ don't know if there's never been an

2:30:13 ↗ approach to combining those fields I I

2:30:15 ↗ don't know if they're used together at

2:30:18 ↗ the same time of the year if they're

2:30:20 ↗ really used at different times but I you

2:30:22 ↗ know I could imagine like Commissioner

2:30:24 ↗ price overlaying one on the other if

2:30:27 ↗ they're not both in use at the same time

2:30:29 ↗ or rotating differently or examining

2:30:32 ↗ that trade-off of moving them a little

2:30:34 ↗ bit farther east or 228 that's all thank

2:30:38 ↗ you commencement Commissioner Shore

2:30:45 ↗ Brookshire it seems that you guys are

2:30:51 ↗ already considering these items but I

2:30:52 ↗ just wanted to put emphasis on your

2:30:54 ↗ consideration for the environmental

2:30:56 ↗ impacts the tree retention the

2:31:01 ↗ stormwater treatment the wetland

2:31:03 ↗ mitigation and also the impacts for the

2:31:05 ↗ neighbors the noise and traffic and

2:31:07 ↗ light

2:31:15 ↗ Thank You Commissioner Schulte yes

2:31:20 ↗ Arthur Schulte first of all big thank

2:31:22 ↗ you to my fellow commissioners staff

2:31:25 ↗ community in the applicant a great

2:31:27 ↗ presentation I really echo everything

2:31:30 ↗ that's already been mentioned I think in

2:31:34 ↗ addition for future meetings and

2:31:37 ↗ presentations it would really be great

2:31:38 ↗ to see some 3d views especially along to

2:31:43 ↗ 28th you know looking southward looking

2:31:46 ↗ onward I am a little bit worried about

2:31:48 ↗ that that corner of the building the the

2:31:51 ↗ larger school that sticks out eastward

2:31:54 ↗ you know I'm really curious to see how

2:31:56 ↗ that's going to be treated you know

2:31:58 ↗ whether the rooftop units are going to

2:31:59 ↗ be properly screened maybe that's an

2:32:03 ↗ opportunity to explore a different color

2:32:04 ↗ color scheme in that specific corner to

2:32:07 ↗ blend a little bit better with the the

2:32:09 ↗ vegetation around it so I'd also like to

2:32:12 ↗ see some sections through some of the

2:32:16 ↗ pinch points around the property

2:32:19 ↗ specifically that field at that

2:32:21 ↗ northwest corner I know you had a

2:32:24 ↗ section drawn slightly southward of it

2:32:26 ↗ but I think having some sections at

2:32:28 ↗ those pinch points to get a better

2:32:30 ↗ understanding of how those will be

2:32:32 ↗ treated

2:32:34 ↗ maybe the heights of the trees that

2:32:35 ↗ you're proposing in that area and I echo

2:32:41 ↗ the comment or regarding exploring a

2:32:44 ↗ little bit further on the location of

2:32:46 ↗ the baseball fields I mean if if if you

2:32:49 ↗ find out that the trees in those areas

2:32:51 ↗ need you know two feet or 3 feet

2:32:54 ↗ additional to save them you know what

2:32:56 ↗ does it take what does that trade off to

2:32:58 ↗ shift those fields you know 2 or 3 feet

2:33:01 ↗ just to save those lines of trees right

2:33:03 ↗ again as I mentioned earlier a lot of it

2:33:05 ↗ will be a lot of that info will be kind

2:33:07 ↗ of discovered with with your additional

2:33:09 ↗ walks with the arborist and so on yeah I

2:33:13 ↗ think the the overall massing of the

2:33:15 ↗ building the colors and yeah and you

2:33:22 ↗ know maybe I don't know that this was my

2:33:23 ↗ touched on a whole lot but I know there

2:33:26 ↗ was some public comments

2:33:28 ↗ earlier regarding some of the learning

2:33:30 ↗ spaces as well I'd like to get a better

2:33:32 ↗ understanding of what those learning

2:33:35 ↗ spaces are you you hinted at a deck that

2:33:38 ↗ you can walk out on you know what is

2:33:41 ↗ that experience you know as you're on

2:33:44 ↗ that deck looking on to the to the

2:33:47 ↗ landscaping the residents below what

2:33:50 ↗ does that look like and then any other

2:33:52 ↗ potential areas on the site that are you

2:33:55 ↗ know being classified as learning

2:33:56 ↗ experiences yeah I think that that

2:33:59 ↗ overall relationship between 228th and

2:34:02 ↗ the school I like to get a better

2:34:04 ↗ understanding of you know what that

2:34:05 ↗ looks like and again maybe it's you know

2:34:08 ↗ simply achieved with some 3d

2:34:10 ↗ perspectives and and then from that we

2:34:13 ↗ can gain some additional information so

2:34:14 ↗ again thank you to everyone

2:34:20 ↗ 12

2:34:22 ↗ I as well would like to thank all the

2:34:25 ↗ participants you know I try to emphasize

2:34:27 ↗ every meeting that we have especially in

2:34:29 ↗ a community context that this is the

2:34:32 ↗ time for the public to have their input

2:34:35 ↗ and to make their concerns known and I

2:34:37 ↗ think we did that unfortunately it would

2:34:41 ↗ it would have been way more comfortable

2:34:44 ↗ to have everybody sitting in a room and

2:34:45 ↗ being able to look at all the stuff

2:34:47 ↗ together and that wasn't the case so my

2:34:49 ↗ hats off to the staff for at least

2:34:50 ↗ creating an opportunity for us to be

2:34:51 ↗ able to do that do that do this meeting

2:34:54 ↗ in the most comfortable way possible

2:34:57 ↗ under the current situation so I I

2:34:59 ↗ appreciate everybody's participation and

2:35:02 ↗ in conclusion unless there are any

2:35:05 ↗ further comments can be made following

2:35:08 ↗ this meeting the comments we heard

2:35:10 ↗ tonight as well as any written comments

2:35:12 ↗ received before or after this meeting

2:35:14 ↗ through July 22nd will be collected into

2:35:17 ↗ a report on the topics and issues raised

2:35:19 ↗ the applicant will be asked to respond

2:35:21 ↗ to all the topics and identify how they

2:35:23 ↗ responded when they're when they submit

2:35:26 ↗ their full land use permits this summary

2:35:29 ↗ will be provided to the development

2:35:30 ↗ commission the council as part of their

2:35:32 ↗ feet and the council as part of their

2:35:34 ↗ future decision-making in the future

2:35:36 ↗ there will be another opportunity for

2:35:38 ↗ public comment when the master site plan

2:35:40 ↗ and the site development permit are

2:35:41 ↗ submitted if you want to receive the

2:35:43 ↗ summary please send an email to the

2:35:45 ↗ address scrolling at the bottom of the

2:35:47 ↗ screen in the future after those full

2:35:49 ↗ land use permits are submitted staff

2:35:51 ↗ will notify the public that the

2:35:53 ↗ application has been received then staff

2:35:55 ↗ will review write and issue a staff

2:35:57 ↗ report this will be followed by a formal

2:36:00 ↗ public hearing before the development

2:36:01 ↗ Commission and a decision by the City

2:36:04 ↗ Council these provided additional

2:36:06 ↗ opportunities for public comment prior

2:36:08 ↗ to any lease provide additional

2:36:10 ↗ opportunities to public comment prior to

2:36:12 ↗ any decision being made there being no

2:36:15 ↗ mirth further business before the

2:36:16 ↗ Commission I adjourned the meeting at on

2:36:19 ↗ my clock it says 909 p.m.

2:36:23 ↗ thanks everybody

2:36:32 ↗ you

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Attendance

Council / Members (12)

Administration/Staff: Richard Sowa

Lucy Sloman

Land Development Mgr. Mel Morgan

Cristina Haworth

Planning Consultant Michael Brennan Doug Yormick

Assistant Planner Kevin Price Tisha Geiser

Deputy City Clerk Richard Sanford Brooke Shore Applicant Team/Others Present: Arthur Schulte

Alternate Todd Sawin

Project Planner

AHBL Tom Mullins

ISD Capital Projects Dir. Michael Davis

Project Architect