Development Commission - Special Meeting · Monday, February 10, 2020 · City Council Digest

1. CALL TO ORDER

Elect Temporary Chair

Action · packet pp.3

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Staff report:

Development Commission About Staff Liaison Created in 1983, this commission reviews all land Lucy Sloman, use actions requiring a Level 3 review. The Land Development Manager Commission further serves as an advisory board Email to the City Council on land use actions requiring council approval (Level 5 review). Regular Members 2020 – Melvin Morgan The appearance of fairness doctrine prohibits 2020 – Kevin Price Development Commission members and City 2022 – Michael Brennan Council members from discussing the merit of 2022 – Richard Sowa specific land use development applications outside 2022 – Richard Sanford of the formal public meeting process. Citizens, 2023 – Brooke Shore however, may discuss any issue with the City's 2023 – Ben Rush Development Services Department. Written comments are also welcome. Alternate Members 2020 – Vacant Membership 2020 – Vacant The Development Commission…

2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Minutes of January 15, 2020 15 - 83 Site Development Permit for Middle a) School No. 6 in Talus - Quasi-judicial, Application No. SDP19-00002

Katie Cote, Planning Consultant Kim Young and Rebecca Baibak, Integrus Architecture · packet pp.5–13

Topics: Land Use

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Staff report:

APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 1-15-20 Development Commission Minutes Page [0000]

4. OTHER BUSINESS / ANNOUNCEMENTS

The next meeting is a special meeting scheduled for February 12, 2020 at 6:30 p.m. in Council Chambers, 135 E. Sunset Way

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0:15 ↗ you go

0:16 ↗ good evening and welcome to the special

0:19 ↗ meeting of the Development Commission on

0:21 ↗ February 10th I'm acting initially as

0:24 ↗ the facilitator to help us with our

0:25 ↗ first item on the agenda which is to

0:28 ↗ elect a temporary chair for this

0:29 ↗ evenings meeting since our chair and our

0:32 ↗ Vice Chair had conflicts this evening so

0:35 ↗ we'll open the nominations for a chair

0:37 ↗ from commissioners here this evening I

0:40 ↗ would like to nominate Commissioner Mike

0:42 ↗ Brennan as chairman Pro Tem for

0:44 ↗ tonight's proceedings second any other

0:47 ↗ nominations I nominate as well you can

0:53 ↗ see where this is going

0:54 ↗ all those in favor of electing my friend

0:59 ↗ as the chair for the evening say aye

1:02 ↗ aye opposed thank you moving on then we

1:08 ↗ will first order of business is to take

1:10 ↗ care of our meeting minutes from the

1:12 ↗ January 15th meeting has everybody had

1:15 ↗ an opportunity to review the minutes any

1:18 ↗ comments or Corrections on the meeting

1:21 ↗ minutes

1:22 ↗ no no seeing none and we will adopt

1:26 ↗ those minutes by consensus so the main

1:31 ↗ item on the agenda this evening is the

1:33 ↗ continuing public hearing for the site

1:35 ↗ development permit for middle school

1:37 ↗ number six at talus this is a

1:40 ↗ continuation of hearing that started in

1:44 ↗ on January 15th tonight we will hear

1:48 ↗ from staff and information from the

1:50 ↗ response memo an opportunity for the

1:53 ↗ district to provide any additional input

1:55 ↗ on the response and then we will have an

1:58 ↗ opportunity for the public to comment if

2:00 ↗ any members of the public are here this

2:01 ↗ evening that would like to comment there

2:03 ↗ is a sign-up sheets on the podium so

2:07 ↗ please sign up in advance and then when

2:09 ↗ you do approach the podium please state

2:12 ↗ your name and address if you wish for

2:14 ↗ the record so with that turn it over to

2:17 ↗ miss Loman

2:24 ↗ I'm a manager I'm going to start with

2:26 ↗ our quasi-judicial examination as this

2:35 ↗ needs is a quasi-judicial permit we need

2:38 ↗ to have proceedings which both are fair

2:41 ↗ and appear fair that means we use both

2:44 ↗ procedural due process and substantive

2:46 ↗ due process procedural due process means

2:49 ↗ we follow a certain process and we focus

2:52 ↗ on decision makers relationship with the

2:55 ↗ applicant substantive due process means

2:58 ↗ we base our decisions on adopted

3:01 ↗ regulations if you would read through

3:04 ↗ the questions on your monitors and then

3:06 ↗ I'll ask you for your responses in a

3:08 ↗ moment

3:23 ↗ how many answer no to all the questions

3:26 ↗ I do okay great and then part of a

3:33 ↗ quasi-judicial matter is that all

3:35 ↗ decisions are based on a record that's

3:38 ↗ made in the public any contacts related

3:41 ↗ to this permit that take place outside

3:43 ↗ of this public setting we need to

3:47 ↗ discuss those that's interesting

3:54 ↗ have you had any discussions outside of

3:58 ↗ the public hearing no thank you

4:02 ↗ does the applicant wish to challenge any

4:05 ↗ of the commissioners participation okay

4:09 ↗ great thank you

4:26 ↗ good evening i'm katie cody planning

4:29 ↗ consultant with the city of Issaquah i

4:30 ↗ will be joined shortly by member from

4:33 ↗ the applicants team and we have a

4:35 ↗ presentation to go through in response

4:37 ↗ to the questions and comments brought up

4:38 ↗ at the first development mission mean

4:41 ↗ just to refresh everyone's memory we've

4:44 ↗ undergone a public process this is a

4:47 ↗ level 3 quasi-judicial permit we last

4:51 ↗ met in January at the January 15th

4:53 ↗ public hearing the first portion

4:55 ↗ tonight's February 10th the second

4:57 ↗ portion oh I also wanted to mention that

5:01 ↗ SEPA has been issued on this permit and

5:03 ↗ that the mitigated determination on

5:06 ↗ significance was included in your packet

5:08 ↗ and the school district is the CEPA lead

5:10 ↗ for this so they'll addressed SEPA as

5:13 ↗ part of this presentation so just to

5:17 ↗ remind everyone of the vicinity of the

5:20 ↗ project this is a undeveloped site at

5:22 ↗ the talus community it's located on

5:25 ↗ talus Drive off of SR 900 the proposal

5:30 ↗ includes a middle school and associated

5:34 ↗ athletic facilities a two-level parking

5:37 ↗ garage a bus loop a passenger drop-off

5:41 ↗ loop loop and an emergency access as

5:45 ↗ well as a trail on the southern part of

5:48 ↗ the site that will be open for community

5:51 ↗ use

5:54 ↗ and turn it over to the school district

5:56 ↗ to address Seba thank you my name is

6:00 ↗ Rebecca Bay back with Integris

6:01 ↗ architecture I'm gonna walk through a

6:03 ↗ couple of items in tandem here so the

6:07 ↗ CEPA decision was issued there were some

6:10 ↗ proposed mitigation conditions that

6:12 ↗ align with conditions of the site

6:13 ↗ development permit and they include

6:16 ↗ categories around erosion and sediment

6:18 ↗ control air quality stormwater plants

6:21 ↗ and animals noise lighting and

6:23 ↗ transportation the regarding noise is

6:30 ↗ quest school district proposes a

6:32 ↗ revision to condition condition number

6:33 ↗ 30

6:34 ↗ Part C to align with the CEPA conditions

6:38 ↗ four and five under noise this was not

6:40 ↗ included in the briefing response memo

6:43 ↗ and what includes is prohibiting the

6:47 ↗ installation of permanent speakers and

6:50 ↗ allowing portable speakers in bullhorns

6:52 ↗ for school operations for example fire

6:55 ↗ drills and track meets and it would be

6:58 ↗ school sponsored events only any third

7:02 ↗ party or community users would be

7:04 ↗ prohibited from using portable speakers

7:06 ↗ or bullhorns and it would be signed

7:08 ↗ appropriately to note this prohibition

7:10 ↗ so I wanted to point out that this

7:15 ↗ revision to this is a revision to as

7:20 ↗ site development permit condition and

7:22 ↗ this was not included in the briefing

7:24 ↗ response memo so this is the first time

7:25 ↗ you'll be hearing about it so if you do

7:28 ↗ agree with this revised condition we

7:31 ↗ would need to make that part of the any

7:33 ↗ eventual motion for approval just to

7:36 ↗ highlight that procedural step

7:43 ↗ the next item was responding to a

7:46 ↗ question about the signal design and the

7:49 ↗ movements through the intersection the

7:52 ↗ signal Design Concepts allows for full

7:55 ↗ access

7:57 ↗ so the arrow doesn't quite work there

8:01 ↗ goes so the signal design allows for

8:05 ↗ right and left out of our site and for

8:09 ↗ left turn on to the site and right turn

8:12 ↗ on to our site the specific dimensions

8:15 ↗ will be reviewed later with the site

8:17 ↗ work permit but I just wanted to

8:19 ↗ highlight what the signal will allow for

8:22 ↗ the traffic flow on the site and then

8:28 ↗ there was also a question about what can

8:31 ↗ be done to prevent excessive speeding

8:33 ↗ along talus Drive we talked a bit about

8:36 ↗ this on the 15th the new conditions of

8:39 ↗ approval that have been proposed is

8:40 ↗ reduced school speed zone signage and

8:43 ↗ radar speed signs and speed study to

8:46 ↗ evaluate those impacts so this is new

8:53 ↗ proposed condition numbers 42 and 43 so

8:58 ↗ I'm going to go back to 42 essentially

9:01 ↗ we are asking for I won't repeat what

9:05 ↗ Rebecca said but our traffic engineer is

9:07 ↗ here tonight if we wanted to discuss

9:09 ↗ these conditions in further detail but

9:12 ↗ the basics are that speed flashing

9:16 ↗ beacons and radar will be required and

9:18 ↗ then we'll monitor the situation for two

9:20 ↗ years and after two years ask the school

9:24 ↗ district to compare the speeds to the

9:28 ↗ the current baseline speed to see if

9:30 ↗ additional measures are needed

9:35 ↗ another question that was asked was

9:37 ↗ about the entry to the bus loop work and

9:41 ↗ how the sidewalk and whether the

9:43 ↗ sidewalk would be at a constant grade

9:45 ↗ yes it will be and specific details will

9:48 ↗ be reviewed with our site work permit so

9:51 ↗ there's no change to the proposed

9:52 ↗ approved conditions and the bus loop can

9:54 ↗ meet the proposed condition number 12

10:04 ↗ and then there was a question about

10:07 ↗ whether falcon weight could be widened

10:09 ↗ with 11 foot lanes a limited portion of

10:13 ↗ the travel lanes between talus drive and

10:14 ↗ the bus loop entrance will be widened

10:16 ↗ through an administrative adjustment of

10:18 ↗ standards issued on the 31st of January

10:21 ↗ and you can highlight the conclusion

10:24 ↗ there and then their other question was

10:31 ↗ what are the impacts of this project on

10:33 ↗ the intersection what is the expected

10:34 ↗ delay or change in level of service the

10:37 ↗ traffic impact analysis found that the

10:39 ↗ project would add some peak hour delay

10:41 ↗ but would not change the overall level

10:44 ↗ of service the intersection operation

10:47 ↗ will be monitored by approval approval

10:49 ↗ condition number one and again our

10:52 ↗ traffic engineer is here if we want to

10:54 ↗ get into more detail on that

11:00 ↗ the next item was about how can drivers

11:02 ↗ be prevented from dropping students off

11:04 ↗ in an inappropriate places along talis

11:07 ↗ drive or on Falcon Way the site work

11:10 ↗ permit will be reviewed for potential to

11:12 ↗ address this issue we will be providing

11:15 ↗ no stopping or sanding signage that can

11:17 ↗ be installed if monitoring shows it's

11:19 ↗ needed a long talis drive or Falcon Way

11:22 ↗ and then there's a revised condition

11:24 ↗ that notes that

11:27 ↗ additionally the STP was based on the

11:28 ↗ model performance of the school for the

11:30 ↗ number of aspects including traffic l OS

11:33 ↗ traffic operations of the access control

11:36 ↗ on site queuing and stacking on site

11:39 ↗ parking quantities as indicated by an on

11:42 ↗ and off street parking as well as

11:44 ↗ stopping and standing on surrounding

11:45 ↗ streets on an off-site special event

11:49 ↗ parking procedures and off-site queuing

11:51 ↗ on talus Drive the next question was

11:56 ↗ would the drivers be able to make a

11:58 ↗ u-turn at the internal road to avoid

12:00 ↗ having to drive the whole loop and the

12:04 ↗ u-turns will be prohibited

12:05 ↗ there'll be no u-turn signage that can

12:08 ↗ be provided and then the school district

12:11 ↗ will have flaggers present during

12:12 ↗ pick-up and drop-off that they'll be

12:14 ↗ monitoring driver behavior those times

12:21 ↗ there was a question about what is the

12:23 ↗ plan for people to cross between the

12:24 ↗ parking garage and and the building what

12:26 ↗ traffic calming measures are proposed on

12:29 ↗ the entry road so as this graphic

12:31 ↗ indicates there is a change in color and

12:34 ↗ texture and there will be a raised cross

12:37 ↗ work from the garage to the main entry a

12:39 ↗ crossing guard during pick-up and

12:42 ↗ drop-off will also be on site in this

12:45 ↗ area another quick question was will the

12:50 ↗ 10-foot sidewalk from talus way onto the

12:53 ↗ site be divided to show bicycle and

12:55 ↗ pedestrian areas this is the blue

12:58 ↗ sidewalk here typical of multi-use

13:01 ↗ sidewalks sharing will be first managed

13:03 ↗ through family communication signage and

13:06 ↗ on-site staff enforcement pavement

13:09 ↗ marking could be added in the future if

13:11 ↗ warranted the anticipation is that

13:14 ↗ they'll be supervision

13:15 ↗ at this point on the site what is the

13:22 ↗ typical morning bus queue of Telus Drive

13:25 ↗ left turn lane to Falcon Way with such a

13:28 ↗ short left turn lane while buses stick

13:30 ↗ into the through Lane is it possible

13:32 ↗ drivers may not let the buses turn onto

13:35 ↗ Falcon the typical queue is one or two

13:38 ↗ buses which will not interfere fear with

13:41 ↗ 120 foot left turn lane they'll be do

13:44 ↗ not block pavement markings and signage

13:46 ↗ will be installed at the talus falcon

13:48 ↗ intersection and its quest old school

13:51 ↗ district can manage timing of bus

13:52 ↗ arrivals if impacts are observed after

13:55 ↗ the school opens

13:57 ↗ is there a possibility that buses could

14:00 ↗ slide downhill if they have to stop on a

14:02 ↗ hill during icy or snowy weather the

14:04 ↗ buses come equipped with chains for

14:06 ↗ inclement weather and the school School

14:08 ↗ District has established a weather

14:09 ↗ monitoring procedure and the buses will

14:13 ↗ be stored off-site thus the conclusion

14:15 ↗ is no change to the improved approval

14:18 ↗ conditions how does the site plan

14:25 ↗ encourage use of school buses rather

14:27 ↗ than private cars what connect with

14:29 ↗ school district do to encourage bus

14:30 ↗ ridership separation of bus loop from

14:33 ↗ vehicular traffic so we got them in

14:36 ↗ different levels pedestrian bridge leads

14:38 ↗ directly from the coverage shelter to

14:39 ↗ the school building and the service to

14:42 ↗ talas beyond the standard one-mile

14:44 ↗ radius so typically students that were

14:48 ↗ within one-mile radius would need to

14:49 ↗ walk but in for this school on this site

14:52 ↗ we will be providing bus service to

14:55 ↗ talas and there will be incentives for

14:57 ↗ students who ride the bus there was a

15:01 ↗ question about what should we provide

15:02 ↗ can we provide more information about

15:03 ↗ the proportion of bus ridership

15:05 ↗ anticipated for students coming from

15:07 ↗ Tallis the district shall maintain bus

15:10 ↗ service to the Tallis neighborhood to

15:11 ↗ serve the approximately 10% of students

15:13 ↗ coming from that community that's our

15:15 ↗ best understanding of the population

15:17 ↗ thus there's no change to the proposed

15:20 ↗ approval conditions

15:25 ↗ emergency and weather concerns what is

15:28 ↗ the building evacuation plan so the

15:31 ↗ yellow highlight across the elevation of

15:34 ↗ the building indicates where the third

15:36 ↗ floor is which is directly accessible

15:39 ↗ off of the entry Drive area so even

15:45 ↗ though it's a five storey building

15:46 ↗ you're going to stories there's my mouse

15:50 ↗ there's two stories above that yellow

15:53 ↗ line and then two stories below so we

15:55 ↗ basically set the building into the

15:57 ↗ grade to allow for ease of evacuation

16:01 ↗ the sequal school district is also

16:04 ↗ developing evacuation routes with East

16:06 ↗ Side Fire and Rescue question on how

16:10 ↗ would we be transporting students to SR

16:12 ↗ 900 work during inclement weather how

16:15 ↗ and where will students be transported

16:17 ↗ to and from school during snow and icy

16:19 ↗ conditions ISD has several schools

16:23 ↗ located on hills and has established a

16:25 ↗ monitoring policy for inclement weather

16:26 ↗ thus there's no change to the proposed

16:29 ↗ approval conditions there were some

16:35 ↗ questions at the last meeting about

16:36 ↗ whether or not a second exit from the

16:40 ↗ talus community was possible or

16:42 ↗ considered and regardless of this

16:46 ↗ project the city did look at the

16:48 ↗ potential to to make a second exit

16:52 ↗ through the bergsma property but that

16:54 ↗ was decided to be designated as open

16:57 ↗ space which meant that the only existing

17:01 ↗ second access is a limited use access

17:03 ↗ james bush road called james bush road

17:06 ↗ which is not open for normal use but can

17:10 ↗ be used used in an emergency and for the

17:14 ↗ school project in particular is d looked

17:17 ↗ at the potential of adding a second

17:19 ↗ access point directly onto sr 900 but

17:23 ↗ the topography of the area and the

17:25 ↗ location of the site precluded that it's

17:28 ↗ not actually adjacent to

17:31 ↗ and it was impossible to get the

17:33 ↗ easements needed to make that connection

17:38 ↗ right so here's the James Bush Road I

17:40 ↗ mentioned the emergency exit possibility

17:44 ↗ another possible scenario if there were

17:47 ↗ an emergency where a large amount of

17:52 ↗ people our students needed to be

17:53 ↗ evacuated the city could have the police

17:56 ↗ department change talis drive to one way

17:59 ↗ out to facilitate quicker moving of

18:02 ↗ people provide additional information on

18:12 ↗ the strategies ISD will use to manage

18:14 ↗ events where parking is insufficient to

18:16 ↗ meet demand

18:17 ↗ how will negative impacts to neighboring

18:19 ↗ streets be avoided so the drivers will

18:22 ↗ be required to request a parking pass

18:24 ↗ for events with potential for parking

18:26 ↗ over spill they'll be up to one hundred

18:28 ↗ and sixty two onsite passes that may be

18:31 ↗ issued all others will be issued offsite

18:34 ↗ passes with designated shuttle service

18:36 ↗ to the school site additional strategies

18:39 ↗ are under consideration so there's no

18:41 ↗ change the proposed approval conditions

18:47 ↗ which other schools have used shuttle

18:49 ↗ service and how has it worked for them

18:51 ↗ can parking be allowed on the field most

18:54 ↗ ISD schools have used an occasional

18:56 ↗ shuttle service with success and parking

18:59 ↗ on the field was considered but it was

19:01 ↗ deemed infeasible can special events

19:05 ↗ like eighth-grade commencement be

19:06 ↗ shifted to after-school or evening hours

19:09 ↗ potentially each year the school

19:11 ↗ community decides what time to hold the

19:13 ↗ eighth grade commencement conclusion no

19:17 ↗ change to proposed approval conditions

19:21 ↗ special event parking strategies how and

19:24 ↗ when can the parking along the bus and

19:26 ↗ passenger loops be used for event

19:28 ↗ parking during evenings and weekends

19:31 ↗ outside of school operating hours

19:33 ↗ they'll be able to use that area so just

19:35 ↗ to remind everyone these the yellow box

19:38 ↗ are the temporary spaces that we're

19:40 ↗ talking about

19:42 ↗ conclusion no changed proposed approval

19:45 ↗ conditions as referenced in condition

19:48 ↗ number 7

19:55 ↗ in response to a commissioners comment

19:57 ↗ we've revised condition 20 to add a

20:01 ↗ reporting requirement and to require

20:05 ↗ that the parking management plan the

20:07 ↗ approved with the building permit not

20:09 ↗ later on at the certificate of occupancy

20:11 ↗ time how will students be prevented from

20:20 ↗ throwing things off of the pedestrian

20:23 ↗ bridge when students cross the bridge

20:25 ↗ during wet or icy condition conditions

20:27 ↗ how far how well their safety be ensured

20:29 ↗ will it be covered if it isn't covered

20:32 ↗ with the slope cause problems provide

20:35 ↗ more information about the bridge so the

20:38 ↗ bridge that we're talking about just to

20:39 ↗ make sure everybody's looking in the

20:40 ↗ same place will be reviewed 488

20:43 ↗ compliance during construction permit

20:45 ↗ review the bridge will be treated like

20:47 ↗ other sidewalks on the school site

20:49 ↗ including de-icing walking surfaces and

20:52 ↗ a camera will monitor activities on the

20:56 ↗ bridge there is a covered bus shelter at

20:59 ↗ this end of the bridge that the school

21:01 ↗ will have the ability to secure access

21:04 ↗ onto the bridge

21:09 ↗ is it considered a skybridge Persei DDS

21:13 ↗ standards so the central standards do

21:19 ↗ have a definition for skybridge and they

21:21 ↗ also have a definition for a pedestrian

21:23 ↗ bridge and when we read both of those it

21:26 ↗ was pretty clear that this is a

21:27 ↗ pedestrian bridge not a sky bridge in an

21:30 ↗ in pedestrian bridge that is defined as

21:33 ↗ an open-air structure that potentially

21:35 ↗ could incorporate weather protection at

21:37 ↗ least one level above the street

21:39 ↗ pedestrian bridges function as an aerial

21:41 ↗ crosswalk so although weather protection

21:45 ↗ could be incorporated it's not required

21:48 ↗ of a pedestrian bridge and the standards

21:53 ↗ for a sky bridge don't apply here

21:59 ↗ loading service area please provide more

22:02 ↗ information on the service loading dock

22:04 ↗ area what will ensure safety and an

22:06 ↗ attractive pedestrian realm what kind of

22:09 ↗ doors will be used is the walk narrowed

22:12 ↗ along the loading area I'm getting my

22:16 ↗ arrow here ok a rollup door rolling gate

22:18 ↗ or similar will be added to enclose the

22:20 ↗ service area along the sidewalk the

22:23 ↗ sidewalk will be differentiated from the

22:25 ↗ service yard from the service yard

22:29 ↗ paving all along this edge here so

22:30 ↗ that's what that striping indicates and

22:32 ↗ the sidewalk is 6 feet wide it does not

22:35 ↗ narrow in this area so it's the same

22:37 ↗ width here as it continues around to the

22:39 ↗ entry Plaza screening is added to the

22:42 ↗ north wall to provide visibility and

22:45 ↗ you'll see that when we look at the

22:48 ↗ building design

22:51 ↗ loading service area please specify the

22:54 ↗ timing of deliveries during peak pick-up

22:56 ↗ and drop-off times deliveries are to be

22:58 ↗ scheduled so as not to occur

23:00 ↗ approximately 15 minutes before the

23:02 ↗ morning drop-off or 30 minutes after the

23:05 ↗ morning drop-off and 30 minutes before

23:07 ↗ the afternoon pickup in 15 minutes after

23:10 ↗ the afternoon pickup it's the staff you

23:14 ↗ want to sure so we're still reviewing

23:17 ↗ the specifics of the loading area

23:20 ↗ we've we're happy to see the change in

23:23 ↗ moving the door further out so that it's

23:25 ↗ closer to the sidewalk to cover and

23:28 ↗ shield more of that area so at the

23:32 ↗ conceptual level we felt like it was

23:34 ↗ appropriate to move forward and we'll

23:35 ↗ continue working with the construction

23:37 ↗ permits I'm getting the details hammered

23:39 ↗ in sure so just again to reiterate the

23:47 ↗ difference in roles between the

23:49 ↗ architectural review committee at Dallas

23:51 ↗ and the city and the development

23:52 ↗ Commission in reviewing the building

23:55 ↗ design the AR see it's their purview to

23:58 ↗ review anything having to do with

24:00 ↗ aesthetics materials choices colors

24:02 ↗ building styles and sight features such

24:05 ↗ as fences and railings as well as

24:08 ↗ landscaping and specifically one of the

24:13 ↗ commissioners asked about whose purview

24:17 ↗ roof modulation and walls would or

24:20 ↗ building walls and roof lines would be

24:21 ↗ and the AR si has the authority to

24:26 ↗ request changes or approve roof lines

24:29 ↗ and shapes of walls the city would look

24:32 ↗ at structural considerations for the

24:35 ↗ walls and wall height as well as wall

24:37 ↗ screening and whereas the the AR see can

24:43 ↗ select a specific design approach the

24:46 ↗ city still has the overall approval for

24:48 ↗ the building the structural design and

24:50 ↗ the and the building permit the building

24:53 ↗ code elements

25:01 ↗ so how much weather protection will be

25:03 ↗ provided at the entries to the school

25:05 ↗ will bicycle parking be covered so

25:08 ↗ they'll be a large canopy protecting the

25:10 ↗ entrance to the school building and

25:11 ↗ they'll be covered waiting area near the

25:13 ↗ entrance bicycle parking will be located

25:16 ↗ in the two-story parking garage and it

25:18 ↗ will be fully covered so there's no

25:21 ↗ change to the proposed approval

25:22 ↗ conditions

25:26 ↗ so we were asked a few questions about

25:28 ↗ building design given the prominent

25:31 ↗ position at the entrance to the Tallis

25:33 ↗ community how will the school enhance

25:36 ↗ the Gateway so as we remember the

25:38 ↗ fountain is kind of hard to see but it's

25:41 ↗ off to the left here and so we've got

25:43 ↗ four images that show in the wintertime

25:45 ↗ so the trees are not foliated just

25:49 ↗ showing how the evergreens evolve over

25:51 ↗ time so here's before the planting

25:55 ↗ installation and our middle schools off

25:58 ↗ to the right here and then we have our

26:00 ↗ anticipated expression of that planting

26:03 ↗ at one year and then what is that

26:06 ↗ planting going to look like at five

26:08 ↗ years and then at ten

26:14 ↗ and then thinking about the experience

26:18 ↗ along talis drive again in the

26:20 ↗ wintertime just showing what that's

26:24 ↗ before the planting installation begins

26:27 ↗ you can see the planting F at one year

26:31 ↗ and then five years in and then

26:36 ↗ approximately what it look like at ten

26:38 ↗ years the cars never change

26:43 ↗ next item we wanted to follow up on was

26:46 ↗ what is the what could the blank wall

26:49 ↗ treatment what would that look like the

26:51 ↗ blank wall that we're talking about on

26:53 ↗ the North East elevation was identified

26:55 ↗ with this grey area right here within

26:58 ↗ this red box we looked at a proposal

27:03 ↗ adding some windows and some of the the

27:06 ↗ would like paneling along in between

27:09 ↗ those windows extending the gray siding

27:11 ↗ and then we're also looking at an

27:15 ↗ evolution of that idea of having that

27:17 ↗ gray siding but actually bringing the

27:19 ↗ light gray siding around which is our

27:22 ↗ current proposal for that blank wall

27:24 ↗ treatment

27:26 ↗ just to show you our evolution of

27:28 ↗ thinking the other blank wall treatment

27:33 ↗ that we were looking at opportunities

27:36 ↗ for was actually just below that covered

27:40 ↗ or sorry not the covered walkway we've

27:42 ↗ got our covered bus shelter here in our

27:44 ↗ pedestrian bridge and then the wall that

27:47 ↗ was screening the area where the

27:49 ↗ dumpsters and the service trucks might

27:50 ↗ be parked and so what we're proposing is

27:54 ↗ to add some metal mesh screening and

27:56 ↗ reducing the height of that wall to

27:59 ↗ break down the expression of that blank

28:02 ↗ wall

28:04 ↗ and the last blank while I wanted to

28:08 ↗ touch on was the concrete wall just

28:11 ↗ below the doors coming out of the

28:13 ↗ gymnasium a to the field area its

28:16 ↗ identified within this red square and

28:17 ↗ we're proposing an opportunity for some

28:21 ↗ wall treatment there once the school is

28:23 ↗ named I can see it being the school name

28:25 ↗ not just Issaquah question about

28:32 ↗ environmental components and sustainable

28:35 ↗ attributes of the building what

28:37 ↗ sustainability measures will ISD

28:39 ↗ undertake to reduce the energy use in

28:42 ↗ our carbon footprint for this project we

28:45 ↗ are required to be compliant with the

28:47 ↗ Washington sustainable schools protocol

28:49 ↗ will be providing quality day lighting

28:52 ↗ at using LED lighting in the building

28:56 ↗ will have operable windows we have a

28:58 ↗ very efficient mechanical system we're

29:00 ↗ doing low-flow plumbing fixtures to

29:03 ↗ reduce our water usage we're taking care

29:06 ↗ to specify recycled materials and using

29:08 ↗ native landscaping is there an

29:12 ↗ opportunity to install solar panels

29:14 ↗ solar panels will not be installed on

29:16 ↗ this project

29:17 ↗ I lost my slide here solar panels will

29:22 ↗ not be installed but ISD participates in

29:24 ↗ PSC's green direct program to purchase a

29:26 ↗ hundred percent renewable electricity

29:28 ↗ from solar and wind farms conclusion is

29:32 ↗ no change to proposed approval

29:34 ↗ conditions

29:37 ↗ next question was about logistics and

29:39 ↗ whether any portable class where

29:41 ↗ classrooms were proposed no while a

29:45 ↗ possible location for building expansion

29:47 ↗ has been identified further review would

29:49 ↗ be required if ISD decided to pursue

29:52 ↗ expansion other question was what are

29:56 ↗ the arrival and dismissal times typical

29:58 ↗ ISD schedule for all Middle School's in

30:01 ↗ 2019 2020 school year are listed below

30:05 ↗ with our typical bus arrival time on

30:08 ↗ Monday Tuesday Thursday and Friday being

30:10 ↗ slightly different than on Wednesday

30:12 ↗ where we have a late start the start

30:14 ↗ times at 8:10 and 10:20 respectively and

30:18 ↗ dismissal at 2:35 and 3:30 buses are

30:22 ↗ typically on the road shortly after

30:24 ↗ around 242 and 337 how and when can the

30:32 ↗ public use the track and field area so

30:34 ↗ the field will be fenced and gated the

30:37 ↗ neighborhood residents can request a

30:39 ↗ keycard access for using the site during

30:41 ↗ daylight non-school hours when there are

30:44 ↗ not other activities scheduled the track

30:47 ↗ and field can also be rented out in

30:49 ↗ which case renters have precedence over

30:51 ↗ other users conclusion is no change to

30:55 ↗ the proposed approval conditions

31:00 ↗ please provide more information on the

31:02 ↗ long-term landscape maintenance plan is

31:04 ↗ d employees full-time maintenance staff

31:06 ↗ there's a two-year plant establishment

31:08 ↗ service that'll come with the new

31:10 ↗ building and they'll work with the

31:12 ↗ community to meet their expectations

31:14 ↗ well the island or the pork chop and

31:17 ↗ tree be landscaped which I realize the

31:19 ↗ term maybe not everybody knew but it's

31:21 ↗ this area right here yes with review by

31:24 ↗ the city and the AR C plantings will

31:26 ↗ work within sight distance limitations

31:29 ↗ and there is no change to the proposed

31:32 ↗ approval conditions

31:37 ↗ what is the roof treatment of the garage

31:40 ↗ what is the vertical side treatment well

31:42 ↗ headlights be addressed so we will have

31:45 ↗ landscape planters and architectural

31:46 ↗ trellis on the rooftop the perimeter of

31:49 ↗ the parking garage will be heavily

31:51 ↗ landscaped and the vertical side

31:54 ↗ treatment is masonry and metal screening

31:56 ↗ headlights will be concealed with an

31:59 ↗ opaque barrier the conclusion was

32:02 ↗ additional materials appear to

32:03 ↗ demonstrate compliance with screening

32:05 ↗ requirements and compliance with

32:06 ↗ regulations will be reviewed with our

32:08 ↗ construction permits

32:13 ↗ lighting please provide additional

32:15 ↗ information on potential impacts of the

32:18 ↗ track-and-field lighting to off-site

32:19 ↗ properties areas above or level with the

32:23 ↗ field are they unlikely to are unlikely

32:25 ↗ to experience glare lights and their

32:28 ↗ visors will be adjusted if areas below

32:30 ↗ the field experience glare lights can be

32:32 ↗ dimmed to 25% during community events so

32:36 ↗ there's a couple diagrams that that

32:38 ↗ speak to that so additional information

32:45 ↗ on potential impacts of the

32:46 ↗ track-and-field lighting to the off-site

32:47 ↗ properties so one thing we wanted to

32:53 ↗ make sure to address is that the field

32:56 ↗ lighting can be adjusted and so we are

32:59 ↗ proposing a new condition that that the

33:03 ↗ city and the school district will work

33:05 ↗ together to make sure that one when the

33:07 ↗ lights are installed that any

33:09 ↗ adjustments that are needed to prevent

33:11 ↗ impact so drivers will be made after

33:14 ↗ installation based on an on a work with

33:17 ↗ one of the installers representatives

33:20 ↗ and then we also wanted to request a

33:23 ↗ revision to the condition on the timing

33:27 ↗ of lighting the Parks Department

33:29 ↗ contacted DSD and asked if we could

33:32 ↗ possibly move the lighting a bit later

33:35 ↗ in order to allow two rotations of their

33:39 ↗ field use after the school hours are

33:41 ↗ done so their typical blocks of time I

33:45 ↗ think are about two hours so pushing it

33:47 ↗ back to 9:15 would allow two different

33:50 ↗ users to use the field back-to-back on a

33:53 ↗ given night and and also to add an

33:58 ↗ exception for community events like the

34:02 ↗ Relay for Life that go into late hours

34:04 ↗ that the field could be lit if the

34:08 ↗ lighting is dimmed down to very low

34:10 ↗ levels just in order to provide safety

34:13 ↗ but not the high level that you would

34:15 ↗ need for visibility of a sporting event

34:20 ↗ I'll do this one again so there's a

34:22 ↗ question about how the establishment of

34:24 ↗ a separate tract for the trail would

34:26 ↗ help the project meet the FA our

34:28 ↗ requirements essentially we would be

34:32 ↗ proposing a new parcel that would that

34:36 ↗ would include all of the all of the

34:39 ↗ trail and landscaping around it and the

34:42 ↗ grading needed to make that happen and

34:44 ↗ that would not be included in the parcel

34:46 ↗ for the school project because the trail

34:48 ↗ parcel would be serving more of a public

34:51 ↗ service in a public good

34:53 ↗ as a community facility and that helps

34:56 ↗ the that helps to really focus in on the

34:59 ↗ amount of land being used by the

35:02 ↗ proposed project which is the intent of

35:06 ↗ how the FA our requirements were meant

35:08 ↗ to be applied

35:10 ↗ so this is the condition that there

35:16 ↗ requires establishing that separate

35:18 ↗ attractive land there was a question

35:26 ↗ about why is the trail connection from

35:28 ↗ the community trail into the site

35:30 ↗ through the loop rather than along the

35:32 ↗ edge so if we were to do it along the

35:36 ↗ edge which is the yellow line there's

35:38 ↗ insufficient space to accommodate the

35:40 ↗ sidewalk given the site topography and

35:42 ↗ required retaining walls the connection

35:45 ↗ through the drop-off loop is the most

35:47 ↗ direct way to connect the trail to the

35:48 ↗ field so that's highlighted in blue

35:50 ↗ there's no change to the approved

35:53 ↗ conditions there's a question about

35:57 ↗ signage and when signs would be reviewed

36:01 ↗ signage is typically done at the toward

36:04 ↗ the end of the permitting a project

36:07 ↗ and it'll be regulated from the central

36:09 ↗ standards chapter 9 and there will be

36:11 ↗ separate signed permits that the

36:13 ↗ applicant will request from the city

36:20 ↗ there was also a question about

36:22 ↗ construction management and any

36:23 ↗ additional details that we could provide

36:26 ↗ so ISD will develop a construction

36:29 ↗ management plan as part of the site work

36:30 ↗ and building permits for review and

36:32 ↗ approval by the city during construction

36:35 ↗ ISD will keep community informed through

36:38 ↗ signage and regular construction updates

36:41 ↗ construction hours will be Monday

36:43 ↗ through Friday 7 a.m. to 6 p.m. except

36:45 ↗ on holidays unless an expanded work

36:48 ↗ hours permit has been granted for

36:49 ↗ Saturday work all construction worker

36:53 ↗ parking material equipment lay down

36:55 ↗ areas will be on site throughout

36:57 ↗ construction so that's the end of our

37:03 ↗ presentation

37:04 ↗ we obviously planning staff is here

37:06 ↗ engineering staff is here and that both

37:08 ↗ the city and the applicants traffic

37:11 ↗ engineers are here so they are available

37:13 ↗ for your questions as well thank you

37:16 ↗ right so is that complete both the staff

37:19 ↗ and the applicants presentation great so

37:22 ↗ open up the meeting now to public

37:25 ↗ comment so if there's anybody here from

37:28 ↗ the public this evening that would like

37:29 ↗ to comment please come to the podium

37:31 ↗ state your name and address if you wish

37:34 ↗ and make your comments

37:38 ↗ anybody here this evening seeing none

37:44 ↗ oh there's wine my name is Mary Lynch

37:51 ↗ and I recite it to 6-9 own Northwest Oak

37:54 ↗ Crest Drive I don't know if you received

37:56 ↗ my public comments okay you got those

37:58 ↗ I'd be glad to you know address any of

38:01 ↗ those specifically I won't go over them

38:02 ↗ but I am a little bit concerned about

38:05 ↗ some of the statements made tonight as a

38:07 ↗ blanket statement and would like to see

38:09 ↗ some conditions as I said in my public

38:11 ↗ comments put on some of those conditions

38:14 ↗ also concerned about the unload and

38:17 ↗ loading of the buses and the fact that

38:19 ↗ it stated that the buses will be

38:21 ↗ staggering in I don't really see how

38:23 ↗ that's physically possible you know

38:25 ↗ given traffic and everything else just

38:27 ↗ stagger buses in to a site but then even

38:31 ↗ that being so said I don't see how the

38:34 ↗ math adds up on having the two rows of

38:37 ↗ buses in there to unload while you're

38:41 ↗ still have buses coming in and having

38:43 ↗ buses coming in and going out the same

38:46 ↗ close proximity of 33 feet I think is

38:49 ↗ not doable when you figure the size of a

38:52 ↗ bus and I gave you the dimensions on the

38:55 ↗ buses there thank you thank you

38:59 ↗ any other comments this evening seeing

39:06 ↗ none then we'll close the public comment

39:08 ↗ portion of the meeting open the meeting

39:11 ↗ now to Commissioners any questions that

39:13 ↗ you have for the applicant or staff yes

39:18 ↗ mr. chairman I was pleased to see the

39:21 ↗ new proposed conditions 42 and 43

39:24 ↗ regarding speed on Telus Drive that's

39:26 ↗ great I think those are effective

39:28 ↗ measures to deal with that I do have two

39:32 ↗ issues with this project first has to do

39:36 ↗ with the loading and service area last

39:39 ↗ meeting I believe you may recall the

39:41 ↗ Commissioner Morgan observed that

39:43 ↗ usually when proposals come before us

39:45 ↗ that area is toward the rear of the

39:47 ↗ building and Syd's in 11 dot

39:50 ↗ five also prefers areas of that kind to

39:54 ↗ be in the rear of the building it looks

39:57 ↗ as though now we have a new single

40:00 ↗ roll-up door proposed to shelter that

40:04 ↗ area and their questions about that both

40:07 ↗ structurally and in terms of how trucks

40:10 ↗ are going to turn in that area as well

40:13 ↗ on the north side wall it sounds as

40:15 ↗ though that wall has been opened and

40:19 ↗ some screening added there and it looks

40:21 ↗ as though neither the screening nor the

40:24 ↗ visibility for the drivers really its

40:26 ↗ optimum so my feeling is this is looks

40:30 ↗ kind of like still a work in progress

40:33 ↗ I guess my question is that early in the

40:36 ↗ design of this site and I guess this is

40:39 ↗ for the architect was the southeast

40:42 ↗ corner of the building considered for

40:44 ↗ this facility the access would be

40:47 ↗ through the emergency slash service road

40:49 ↗ to that and if that was considered why

40:52 ↗ wasn't that chosen as an option

40:59 ↗ thank you

41:01 ↗ yeah we looked at a variety of ways to

41:04 ↗ service this building and as we're

41:07 ↗ looking at locating service area not

41:09 ↗ only are we looking at getting trust

41:10 ↗ trucks in safely to service the building

41:13 ↗ and trash out but we're also looking at

41:16 ↗ what are the safe pathways for them on a

41:19 ↗ regular basis to be coming going on the

41:21 ↗ site in looking at the this side of the

41:26 ↗ building because the students will be

41:29 ↗ flowing on a regular basis from the

41:31 ↗ gymnasium out to the track we're very

41:34 ↗ limited in the areas in that for service

41:37 ↗ so if we look at the size of this

41:40 ↗ service area and as we keep in mind the

41:43 ↗ the turning radiuses that are required

41:46 ↗ for the truck there is not space for

41:49 ↗ that in this portion of the site but it

41:52 ↗ was considered it was just not feasible

41:55 ↗ so that is on level three of the

41:59 ↗ building correct the service area the

42:01 ↗ service area is at level three yes

42:03 ↗ if I look at the plan on level three

42:06 ↗ there I think there's an area back nad

42:08 ↗ building is called the platform yes

42:11 ↗ right is that a stage that is the stage

42:14 ↗ yet it's the stage in a choir classroom

42:16 ↗ mm-hmm so there was an idea of not

42:20 ↗ having a stage area located there but

42:23 ↗ maybe on the left side instead of that

42:25 ↗ service area redesigned this but I'm

42:30 ↗ looking at I see a potential area here

42:33 ↗ we've got 12 year old students and 12

42:35 ↗ ton garbage trucks in proximity you know

42:38 ↗ I'm trying to get a sense of how this is

42:40 ↗ a safe situation yes so the school

42:42 ↗ district and the the nice thing is the

42:44 ↗ school district has the ability to

42:46 ↗ control when those trucks are coming to

42:48 ↗ and from the site and I'm really very

42:51 ↗ there's my arrow and they are not

42:54 ↗ allowing students to be outside the

42:56 ↗ building once the school day has started

42:58 ↗ so the flow of students out side to the

43:01 ↗ field and to the covered play is all

43:03 ↗ going to be managed on this side of the

43:05 ↗ building so they're completely separated

43:07 ↗ from where those trucks will be when

43:09 ↗ they need to service the building the

43:11 ↗ platform area that you indicated over

43:13 ↗ here is actually two stories up from the

43:16 ↗ drive over on this side and so that's

43:20 ↗ why there wasn't it wasn't feasible to

43:22 ↗ consider putting it on this location and

43:24 ↗ the opposite side of the cafeteria

43:26 ↗ Commons is where our kitchen is which

43:28 ↗ wanted to be close to where the service

43:30 ↗ comes into the building so in trying to

43:33 ↗ address the needs to service the kitchen

43:36 ↗ as well as getting the trash out of the

43:38 ↗ building we really were limited on

43:41 ↗ options on where that could be okay so

43:42 ↗ that emergency service drive is really

43:45 ↗ on a lower level it's actually lower

43:48 ↗ than the gymnasium which is underneath

43:50 ↗ the cafeteria comments okay and I

43:52 ↗ noticed that the time for delivery in

43:59 ↗ that area a condition 18 suggests a

44:02 ↗ half-hour buffer and each side of the

44:04 ↗ start of day and the end of the Student

44:06 ↗ Activity that's been shortened to 15

44:08 ↗ minutes instead of half an hour versus

44:11 ↗ the condition suggestion so are we

44:14 ↗ saying that

44:15 ↗ no students at all would be prohibited

44:17 ↗ and would be allowed in that area during

44:19 ↗ that window yeah in other words

44:23 ↗ conditioned eighteens is suggesting half

44:26 ↗ an hour before drop-off time correct and

44:28 ↗ half an hour after and now it's 15

44:34 ↗ minutes right and that recommendation

44:36 ↗ came from our middle school team on what

44:39 ↗ they observe as far as how quickly

44:40 ↗ students exit and their sequence and

44:43 ↗ timing of when they arrived I don't know

44:46 ↗ if we need to elaborate further if you

44:48 ↗ want to state about the administration

44:50 ↗ of the building because that's really an

44:51 ↗ administration of the building question

44:53 ↗ yeah I guess I just like to clarify that

44:55 ↗ no students then are going to be moving

44:57 ↗ in that area according to building

45:00 ↗ policy during the time that we're having

45:02 ↗ deliveries going in and out of that

45:04 ↗ service area that is the intention is

45:07 ↗ that students will not be going through

45:09 ↗ pickup and drop off at the time that we

45:10 ↗ would have trucks coming to service that

45:12 ↗ area okay

45:13 ↗ okay okay thanks and my second issue if

45:17 ↗ I can just finish with this one is the

45:20 ↗ crossing of the passenger loop area down

45:23 ↗ there maybe this is a question for staff

45:26 ↗ because I understand that staff

45:28 ↗ suggested or requested this crossing

45:32 ↗ from the trail across the end of the

45:35 ↗ passenger loop correct and I guess that

45:39 ↗ looks like a very dangerous kind of

45:41 ↗ crossing hazardous crossing there I'm

45:43 ↗ seeing their cars coming around a corner

45:45 ↗ there and there may be I guess students

45:48 ↗ hustling across that little loop maybe

45:51 ↗ in inclement weather at a certain time

45:53 ↗ of day I guess I wonder it seems as

45:57 ↗ though there's no change at all to the

46:00 ↗ condition there so I'm wondering really

46:02 ↗ what the requirement for that crossing

46:04 ↗ is do we anticipate significant foot

46:08 ↗ traffic accessing the school threw that

46:10 ↗ off that trail my understanding is that

46:14 ↗ the trail access or the access from this

46:16 ↗ trail down to this crosswalk would be

46:18 ↗ those who want to access the field

46:19 ↗ outside of school hours it's not

46:21 ↗ anticipated that we're going to have a

46:23 ↗ large number of students that are using

46:25 ↗ the trail as an access way to the school

46:28 ↗ would that be outside of normal pick-up

46:31 ↗ and drop-off times when cars would be

46:33 ↗ using that balloon then yeah

46:34 ↗ track-and-field would not be available

46:36 ↗ for public access and less school and

46:39 ↗ school associated activities were not in

46:41 ↗ session or anything that was rented on

46:44 ↗ the site but for activities cars would

46:47 ↗ still be able to come down there and

46:48 ↗ park in that area right because is that

46:50 ↗ open or overflow parking during

46:53 ↗ non-school hours or was that I believe

46:56 ↗ ours with token in there so my

46:59 ↗ understanding would be that the loop

47:02 ↗ near where the arrow is shown on the

47:04 ↗ screen right now is not parking is just

47:08 ↗ the function of turning around I I think

47:14 ↗ that the right so the striped stalls

47:18 ↗ where the arrow is right now there would

47:20 ↗ be parking there but not around the

47:26 ↗ actual loop right I would still be

47:28 ↗ coming in there to access those spaces

47:30 ↗ so yes and so I think it would be

47:32 ↗ necessary as we review the actual

47:37 ↗ landscape plan to look at good sight

47:41 ↗ lines some of those trees may not sorry

47:45 ↗ sorry I'm just not sure of that loop and

47:54 ↗ the pedestrian oh yeah yes the one we

47:57 ↗ made um

47:59 ↗ just cuz I think it'll be easier if we

48:01 ↗ can see it more zoomed in

48:09 ↗ it's down yeah yeah so part of the I

48:24 ↗ mean yes our first choice was the yellow

48:26 ↗ path but because the of the grades and

48:31 ↗ the wall and the existing stairs there

48:34 ↗ was not enough room to get a path and

48:36 ↗ fall protection and support along that

48:40 ↗ edge the turquoise path or blue path is

48:45 ↗ at right angles and we will ensure that

48:49 ↗ the sight lines from a cart entering the

48:53 ↗ loop are clear for seeing anyone who's

48:58 ↗ crossing the concern you raised I think

49:02 ↗ it is in fact true that students are

49:05 ↗ very unlikely to be using this path to

49:09 ↗ access the fields or to more importantly

49:12 ↗ access the school in the morning just

49:15 ↗ because it's so far out of the way now

49:17 ↗ these are middle schoolers but it's so

49:20 ↗ hard to say what choices they may make

49:22 ↗ but I think that they're going to want

49:25 ↗ the most direct path which is going to

49:27 ↗ be from Tallis Drive or through the bus

49:32 ↗ loop over the skybridge right so our

49:35 ↗ feeling then is that it's still

49:37 ↗ necessary to have that access at all I

49:39 ↗ think our concern was that consistent

49:43 ↗ with code some kind of connection from

49:46 ↗ that community trail into the site was

49:49 ↗ necessary so we were trying to find a

49:52 ↗ way to do it that would provide good

49:56 ↗ sight lines and connection I think if we

50:00 ↗ eliminated the path we might have people

50:03 ↗ bushwhacking their own Trail that may

50:05 ↗ not have the kinds of sight lines we

50:07 ↗ that it would need to have okay I wonder

50:10 ↗ if we could consider something like a

50:12 ↗ push button to cross or something like

50:14 ↗ that and maybe there are flashing lights

50:16 ↗ there or something I don't know it just

50:17 ↗ strikes me as you know a curious

50:19 ↗ potentially hazardous

50:21 ↗ part of an otherwise very safe and

50:23 ↗ professional design so I agree with that

50:28 ↗ comment I think that the roundabout is a

50:30 ↗ concern for me as well even a speed bump

50:32 ↗ - as you approach that turn might be

50:35 ↗ something worth exploring

50:37 ↗ but again the previous comment about

50:39 ↗ landscaping - that's a that's gonna make

50:41 ↗ a play a big factor as well making sure

50:42 ↗ that we don't play anything too high to

50:45 ↗ not obstruct that that sight line Eddy

50:49 ↗ curiosity the the path as you're teeing

50:54 ↗ off and entering the blue is there a

50:57 ↗ reason why that connection was not

50:59 ↗ located further west so that it's more

51:02 ↗ of a straight line is it because of

51:05 ↗ grades so that you're crossing more at a

51:08 ↗ better line of sight I should say verse

51:11 ↗ kind of that odd angle yeah we were

51:14 ↗ trying to minimize the amount of area

51:17 ↗ that you were crossing um where vehicles

51:19 ↗ were and - as we're trying to maximize

51:23 ↗ parking on the site we wanted to have

51:26 ↗ overlap with the ad a access area for

51:30 ↗ that parking as well as right eyes yeah

51:32 ↗ yes okay typically you like those things

51:35 ↗ that right angles I mean partly I think

51:39 ↗ for the point that Rebecca makes that

51:41 ↗ it's shorter I don't know if our

51:45 ↗ engineers want to speak

51:59 ↗ good evening my name is John Paschal I'm

52:03 ↗ with a consultant called the Transpo

52:05 ↗ group and we're here representing the

52:06 ↗ city of Vista qua and we've been we've

52:08 ↗ been reviewing and working on behalf of

52:11 ↗ the city and reviewing the design of the

52:12 ↗ traffic and transportation elements in

52:15 ↗ regards to this particular crossing

52:19 ↗ location I'd say that you know I think

52:23 ↗ as we all recognize that it might not be

52:26 ↗ ideal in terms of how you you cross I

52:29 ↗ think the things that we look at are

52:31 ↗ really the conditions and the

52:33 ↗ circumstances and what we've come to

52:37 ↗ understand is really this is going to be

52:39 ↗ utilized during those pick-up and

52:40 ↗ drop-off timeframes in terms of the

52:43 ↗ vehicle operation but the pedestrian

52:46 ↗ activity is not necessarily going to be

52:47 ↗ during those same time frames and

52:49 ↗ furthermore we want to avoid introducing

52:54 ↗ facilities and elements that might

52:57 ↗ contradict or not be consistent with

53:00 ↗ that design of it so you know adding

53:03 ↗ things such as flashers and other more

53:06 ↗ proactive warning devices we want to be

53:10 ↗ very careful about that

53:12 ↗ we want to make sure that those those

53:14 ↗ types of things are introduced in areas

53:16 ↗ where they really are warranted and

53:18 ↗ needed we don't want to we don't want to

53:22 ↗ get into this situation where it's an

53:24 ↗ expectation that every time there is a

53:26 ↗ crosswalk or something that that those

53:28 ↗ type of things are needed so that's

53:31 ↗ that's I think from a city perspective

53:32 ↗ we just want to be consistent in how

53:34 ↗ we're going about recommending different

53:37 ↗ types of pedestrian crossing devices

53:41 ↗ thank you appreciate the clarification

53:44 ↗ there are other questions from

53:47 ↗ commissioners

53:51 ↗ back to the question for the applicant

53:52 ↗ back to that loading area can you please

53:57 ↗ clarify what kind of trucks will be

53:59 ↗ going through that is are we talking

54:00 ↗ trash like cafeteria delivery

54:03 ↗ are we talking short shorter trucks not

54:06 ↗ the not the long trailer trucks through

54:10 ↗ that area or the deliveries yeah I might

54:14 ↗ need your help in telling me the exact

54:16 ↗ size of the trucks but there will be

54:17 ↗ trash trucks that were contested food

54:20 ↗ delivery vehicles obviously at the

54:23 ↗ beginning of the school year there tends

54:25 ↗ to be more paper products delivered but

54:27 ↗ that tends to be when we're loading the

54:28 ↗ building before students are on site

54:30 ↗ maybe Tom can elaborate Tom Mullins with

54:34 ↗ the school district mainly be trash

54:36 ↗ trucks garbage trucks in district box

54:38 ↗ vans that it won't be tractor trailers I

54:42 ↗ don't think tractor trailers would want

54:44 ↗ to get caught in that site and that'll

54:46 ↗ be warned they'll be signed yeah okay

54:49 ↗ thank you just a question about back to

54:54 ↗ the design of the loading dock here you

54:56 ↗ said you're adding some additional kind

55:00 ↗ of mesh to the wall condition is that is

55:03 ↗ that you know transparent or open or is

55:07 ↗ it is it still solid condition to

55:09 ↗ contain odors and etc so we're the

55:17 ↗ approach to breaking down that wall

55:21 ↗ let's see if I get my arrow back here

55:23 ↗ this wall here is very similar to the

55:26 ↗ design of the two-story parking garage

55:28 ↗ where we have introduced wire mesh and

55:31 ↗ in that area it will allow some

55:33 ↗ visibility but it does obstruct it it's

55:36 ↗ a tighter weave than what you would see

55:39 ↗ with a chain-link I don't know the exact

55:41 ↗ opacity of that but it will allow views

55:44 ↗ I think it's important to keep in mind

55:47 ↗ that the this area where the dumpsters

55:51 ↗ are is actually backed under cover and

55:55 ↗ so which is behind the solid wall so

55:58 ↗ that area that we've talked about

56:00 ↗ introducing that

56:01 ↗ is to break down this solid wall that we

56:04 ↗ were showing as not only part of the

56:06 ↗ building expression but also to conceal

56:08 ↗ if trucks were in that area thank you I

56:14 ↗ had a question about this special event

56:17 ↗ parking strategies which I think are are

56:20 ↗ great and I'm glad they're being

56:22 ↗ implemented sooner but the question that

56:26 ↗ comes up for me is so if this is a

56:29 ↗ shared field in the community can also

56:31 ↗ use this field at certain times I would

56:33 ↗ imagine there's special events that

56:34 ↗ would be scheduled and held there so do

56:37 ↗ these special event policies apply to

56:39 ↗ community or privately organized events

56:42 ↗ what what are the plans for you know 150

56:45 ↗ cars pouring into the neighborhood or

56:49 ↗ something like that how do you how do

56:51 ↗ you handle that and is it just through

56:53 ↗ parking and special passes and so when

56:57 ↗ you lease the field area they're

56:59 ↗ definitely the the school district has

57:01 ↗ policies around the rental of their

57:04 ↗ facilities the bus area that we've

57:06 ↗ identified for event parking another way

57:11 ↗ to think of it is when it's pick-up and

57:13 ↗ drop-off time and this is designated for

57:15 ↗ school use there's no parking but when

57:17 ↗ that's not occurring which is likely to

57:19 ↗ coincide when you would want to be using

57:21 ↗ the if you had rented the field that

57:23 ↗ would not be outside of school hours

57:24 ↗ that parking would be available okay by

57:28 ↗ the same methods passes or the parking

57:33 ↗ area is not secure the parking area is

57:35 ↗ not secured with a gate or anything so

57:38 ↗ it would be managed through signage so

57:41 ↗ how would you limit the amount of of

57:44 ↗ cars that reasonably come to one of

57:46 ↗ these events

57:50 ↗ good evening my name is Jason Morris I'm

57:52 ↗ the exact director of middle schools for

57:54 ↗ the Issaquah School District I think the

57:56 ↗ the quickest answer to that question is

57:58 ↗ by managing the outside users that are

58:02 ↗ allowed to book the field and keeping

58:06 ↗ track or at least trying to as closely

58:09 ↗ quantify the size of the events of the

58:12 ↗ intended user with the size of the

58:14 ↗ facility so what I'm hearing is possibly

58:17 ↗ input on an event that could be bigger

58:20 ↗ than the facility would allow and that

58:23 ↗ would be incumbent upon the district

58:24 ↗ then to not book events that are going

58:27 ↗ to draw that many users to the field so

58:32 ↗ I think it's more about connecting the

58:35 ↗ right size of events with the facility

58:37 ↗ at hand and perhaps an event that's much

58:39 ↗ larger would be better suited at a high

58:41 ↗ school field that can that can capacity

58:44 ↗ more more parking spaces okay that's

58:47 ↗ that's exactly what I wanted a thank you

58:51 ↗ there are questions for the loading dock

58:55 ↗ area would something like at a parking

58:58 ↗ garage and the city when you're leaving

58:59 ↗ and there's a flashing light or says car

59:02 ↗ leaving or something would something

59:03 ↗ like that is there that ever done I have

59:09 ↗ not seen it done at a school but I mean

59:11 ↗ if there is a challenge with conflicting

59:14 ↗ use I think that we can add it to our

59:16 ↗ list of items that we look to address it

59:22 ↗ what's uh what's dictating that the size

59:25 ↗ of that garage door seems awfully big

59:28 ↗ when I'm looking at an elevation yeah so

59:33 ↗ we want to make sure that we can service

59:35 ↗ the trucks and the loading that needs to

59:38 ↗ occur in that area and so in order for

59:41 ↗ them to be able to maneuver for the

59:43 ↗ different functions so there will be

59:45 ↗ dumpsters they'll be recycling and

59:47 ↗ they'll be next to each other

59:49 ↗ and so they need to get to the

59:50 ↗ appropriate area and there's a loading

59:52 ↗ dock and so that width allows the

59:55 ↗ vehicle to get to where they need to

59:56 ↗ okay so the bins aren't being rolled out

59:58 ↗ the trunks are actually going partially

1:00:00 ↗ in the structure yes so the bins are

1:00:03 ↗ staying or staying under cover so they

1:00:07 ↗ are under this area right here and they

1:00:11 ↗ are not expected to move from there yeah

1:00:13 ↗ okay thank you I have a couple of

1:00:19 ↗ questions first related to the lighting

1:00:21 ↗ of the field and the change in hours did

1:00:27 ↗ you describe similarities to other

1:00:29 ↗ schools I mean is that is that the

1:00:31 ↗ standard of practice do we have other

1:00:33 ↗ schools middle schools with lighted

1:00:34 ↗ fields that are you know using the

1:00:38 ↗ similar kind of time frame talking about

1:00:41 ↗ the lighting yeah so this lighting was a

1:00:43 ↗ request from the parks department to

1:00:45 ↗ extend that so I don't know if it's been

1:00:46 ↗ a request we've addressed on other

1:00:48 ↗ fields when we did the middle school

1:00:51 ↗ permit we at 8 o'clock ice I think that

1:00:59 ↗ was at the request of the Commission

1:01:01 ↗ mm-hmm

1:01:02 ↗ I believe the Parks Department like

1:01:06 ↗ their fields at it Highlands that

1:01:10 ↗ they manage I think they go later they

1:01:12 ↗ go at least till nine if not ten so I

1:01:15 ↗ think that what's being requested for

1:01:17 ↗ this location is consistent with or a

1:01:21 ↗ little more conservative than what the

1:01:23 ↗ parts

1:01:27 ↗ question about some of the conditions

1:01:33 ↗ real quick some clarifications condition

1:01:39 ↗ number 20 and so if you don't need to

1:01:47 ↗ get the condition language in front of

1:01:49 ↗ you so this was one of the conditions

1:01:55 ↗ that was modified but there's and maybe

1:01:57 ↗ it's a typo but if you open the good

1:02:01 ↗ condition it looks like it's the second

1:02:04 ↗ to the last sentence usually the number

1:02:06 ↗ again

1:02:06 ↗ condition number 20 you're on 28 of 31

1:02:17 ↗ so where it starts as ongoing almost at

1:02:25 ↗ the bottom eight second to last and just

1:02:28 ↗ double checking what the original one

1:02:29 ↗ was to see if yeah see right where the

1:02:33 ↗ cursor is yeah now I don't know you'll

1:02:36 ↗ need to help me understand what was what

1:02:39 ↗ the wording is there I'm not sure what

1:02:41 ↗ that meaning is so what the original

1:02:43 ↗ condition said well I'm I I can't read

1:02:49 ↗ both at the same time so what it

1:02:50 ↗ originally said was as an ongoing

1:02:52 ↗ condition of operation okay mama

1:02:55 ↗ the school would be required to use okay

1:03:00 ↗ so a word was dropped condition that

1:03:02 ↗ condition became yes yes we can change

1:03:05 ↗ that

1:03:06 ↗ okay so a condition of operation okay

1:03:09 ↗ great so that's just the type of

1:03:10 ↗ something

1:03:11 ↗ well it just was it so I love copying

1:03:13 ↗ yeah so I just want to make sure that

1:03:15 ↗ language was straight in the record also

1:03:19 ↗ a similar on condition 33

1:03:28 ↗ in the first sentence first line it's a

1:03:31 ↗ typo but it has meaning if we print it

1:03:36 ↗ the way it is at least in the record in

1:03:38 ↗ the document I have 33 it says generator

1:03:43 ↗ during on emergency it should say

1:03:45 ↗ non-emergency I believe was demeaning

1:03:47 ↗ there that was in the original condition

1:03:53 ↗ so we'll fix that also on one of the new

1:03:59 ↗ on the new condition number 43 again a

1:04:03 ↗ language question here trying to

1:04:07 ↗ understand the meaning of the last

1:04:08 ↗ sentence of that condition a letter

1:04:13 ↗ agreement or addition on the site where

1:04:16 ↗ condition probably should say a letter

1:04:19 ↗ of agreement approval condition on the

1:04:23 ↗ site work permit will establish the

1:04:27 ↗ parameters for this side work permit

1:04:30 ↗ that's that yeah let me see a level of

1:04:35 ↗ agreement or approval condition on the

1:04:38 ↗ site work permit will establish the

1:04:40 ↗ parameters for this okay so that would

1:04:42 ↗ be clarification provided at permit

1:04:44 ↗ issuance for that location of this

1:04:46 ↗ condition right I think what we want is

1:04:49 ↗ to have not just the land use condition

1:04:54 ↗ but to work out some further details in

1:04:57 ↗ conjunction in the city and the district

1:05:02 ↗ about how this would be implemented

1:05:06 ↗ we've had discussions I think there is

1:05:09 ↗ joint agreement but we just like to

1:05:11 ↗ memorialize that in an agreement and

1:05:13 ↗ we're just establishing the timing and

1:05:15 ↗ commitment right because in the CEPA

1:05:19 ↗ document that was provided by the

1:05:20 ↗ district they make some statements in

1:05:24 ↗ there that only negotiate it looks like

1:05:27 ↗ including a specific amount of money or

1:05:29 ↗ not to exceed

1:05:32 ↗ um we we that's those were the kinds of

1:05:36 ↗ things that we were thinking would be in

1:05:37 ↗ the letter agreement of and at the time

1:05:40 ↗ that we drafted this condition see

1:05:42 ↗ behind right so so that that language

1:05:46 ↗ allows for continued negotiation on some

1:05:49 ↗ of the details of the mitigation that

1:05:51 ↗ we're talking about and we're not

1:05:53 ↗ necessarily disagreeing with that we

1:05:56 ↗ just hadn't planned to put it into the

1:05:58 ↗ case okay okay that makes sense and then

1:06:06 ↗ there were and this might be a question

1:06:09 ↗ for the school district it's kind of

1:06:11 ↗ operational it's some of the questions

1:06:13 ↗ or concerns expressed by public comment

1:06:16 ↗ regarding operations in the bus loading

1:06:19 ↗ and unloading can you maybe two two

1:06:21 ↗ questions I guess one is what's the

1:06:24 ↗ process that you go through to ensure

1:06:26 ↗ that people are in responsible for the

1:06:28 ↗ operations getting the kids to and from

1:06:31 ↗ school safely are involved in reviewing

1:06:33 ↗ the design and then can you talk a

1:06:35 ↗ little bit about how little actually

1:06:37 ↗ what are the logistics of bus arrival

1:06:40 ↗ departure and loading and unloading of

1:06:42 ↗ the students okay the training Tom

1:06:47 ↗ Mullins with the school district

1:06:49 ↗ transportation center has has reviewed

1:06:53 ↗ the plan some of the concerns that were

1:06:58 ↗ brought up for the double stacking we've

1:07:01 ↗ done that at other schools and so in the

1:07:06 ↗ morning when buses come in they come in

1:07:07 ↗ intermittently they will go around the

1:07:09 ↗ bus loop they'll line up at the curb

1:07:11 ↗ unload and leave so they everybody will

1:07:14 ↗ be unloaded at the curb in the afternoon

1:07:18 ↗ all the buses come and stack up before

1:07:20 ↗ school's out they'll stack up on the

1:07:22 ↗ curb then they'll stack up the second

1:07:24 ↗ lane and we've done this also it alott

1:07:27 ↗ did a few different schools engines off

1:07:32 ↗ parking brake on before anybody is

1:07:35 ↗ allowed out on out to load onto the

1:07:38 ↗ buses so that stops any buses moving

1:07:43 ↗ white kids are

1:07:44 ↗ in unloading so all the buses load at

1:07:48 ↗ the same time and yes

1:07:49 ↗ none of the buses leave until all buses

1:07:52 ↗ are loaded exactly exactly

1:07:54 ↗ okay so then we don't have bus movement

1:07:58 ↗ happening while kids are me absolutely

1:08:00 ↗ not

1:08:02 ↗ that was so they all leave

1:08:05 ↗ simultaneously yes so one part of this

1:08:08 ↗ project and I probably should have spoke

1:08:11 ↗ up last time a little more is where

1:08:13 ↗ there's a the notion that we're gonna

1:08:16 ↗ widen that street to 11 feet to

1:08:18 ↗ accommodate that traffic but then

1:08:19 ↗ there's the curb flares out right it

1:08:22 ↗ where you would take a right turn so you

1:08:25 ↗ have how many buses leaving at that

1:08:29 ↗ moment we've designed the site for 18

1:08:31 ↗ okay we with the student population we

1:08:34 ↗ we're figuring it's gonna be something

1:08:36 ↗ less than that and they're all trying to

1:08:38 ↗ take a right turn on what now is you

1:08:42 ↗ know with the curb flare going to

1:08:44 ↗ prohibit any community members from

1:08:46 ↗ taking a left and turning down their

1:08:48 ↗ Street if they're coming in it just

1:08:51 ↗ seems like a point where a lot of

1:08:53 ↗ congestion will so when you say when the

1:08:55 ↗ buses are leaving they'll come out of

1:08:57 ↗ the drive taker right onto Falcon right

1:08:59 ↗ and I think right on to talus seems like

1:09:02 ↗ the issue I mean they'll tea and then

1:09:05 ↗ they'll take it right on to talus yeah

1:09:07 ↗ and who would be in your concern of the

1:09:10 ↗ conflict to say I live on the street and

1:09:12 ↗ I'm coming down up-up talus and I want

1:09:15 ↗ to take a left on the Falcon yeah and

1:09:16 ↗ I've got 18 buses stacked up there but

1:09:20 ↗ they but you're gonna be on opposite

1:09:21 ↗ sides of the road you're gonna be going

1:09:23 ↗ southbound they'll be going northbound

1:09:25 ↗ you'll just take them yeah single no

1:09:28 ↗ they're not all going out in unison side

1:09:31 ↗ by side they're going out single-file

1:09:32 ↗ okay okay

1:09:34 ↗ and there there also is a way to go

1:09:37 ↗ around the block and exit rather than

1:09:40 ↗ turning onto towels from Falcon you

1:09:42 ↗ could take her right and go around the

1:09:44 ↗ block okay that was my second question

1:09:46 ↗ is there an alternate route for somebody

1:09:49 ↗ that lives on that street when this is

1:09:51 ↗ happening I mean you know the other

1:09:52 ↗ thing is 18 buses could be lined up and

1:09:55 ↗ you're behind those 18 buses

1:09:57 ↗ is there see what you're saying the ads

1:09:59 ↗ they're going out on on Falcon 2 tallis

1:10:02 ↗ either way if there's game problems

1:10:04 ↗ coming in we don't see the conflict

1:10:05 ↗ because they'll be on the opposite side

1:10:08 ↗ of the road going the opposite direction

1:10:09 ↗ but I do see what you're saying

1:10:11 ↗ for those couple minutes when they're if

1:10:13 ↗ somebody's trying to go out they're

1:10:15 ↗ gonna be behind the buses well they have

1:10:18 ↗ an alternate route so you can continue

1:10:27 ↗ down down Falcon take the corner and

1:10:30 ↗ then continue all the way up Osprey okay

1:10:35 ↗ okay it still seems like it'll be

1:10:37 ↗ heavily congested at times but it seems

1:10:40 ↗ like you guys have studied it well and

1:10:43 ↗ yeah and there's in there's whenever we

1:10:46 ↗ have buses of massive buses leaving at

1:10:49 ↗ the same time there's there is those

1:10:52 ↗ couple minutes it is it is congested we

1:10:56 ↗ have Maywood middle school there's 24

1:10:58 ↗ buses leaving at the same time same

1:11:00 ↗ Drive single drive out to a single

1:11:02 ↗ arterial two-lane arterial and something

1:11:05 ↗ go left some go right but it's it takes

1:11:09 ↗ you a minute they all get all right all

1:11:11 ↗ right thank you are they taking a left

1:11:13 ↗ on talus drive the buses or is there

1:11:15 ↗ only a right as they exit Falcon they

1:11:19 ↗ can take a left you can take a look yeah

1:11:21 ↗ so those taking a left will back up the

1:11:24 ↗ other ones because it being one lane

1:11:27 ↗ right is there - do we have to do we

1:11:32 ↗ have a left hand a right on Falcon

1:11:34 ↗ single lane so and there's only one bus

1:11:37 ↗ that will go up up west on cows okay

1:11:42 ↗ yep okay interesting

1:11:49 ↗ other comments Jason we're Swiss with

1:11:53 ↗ lessons cool district I was gonna add as

1:11:56 ↗ well if the Falcon way you can you could

1:11:59 ↗ go the other way and go around and still

1:12:01 ↗ access Telus Drive

1:12:02 ↗ I would articulate to you that the car

1:12:04 ↗ on Falcon way would technically have the

1:12:05 ↗ right of way to any bus that was stopped

1:12:08 ↗ to turn right if that makes sense so if

1:12:10 ↗ I'm a bus I would pull up and if I had

1:12:13 ↗ an oncoming car they would have

1:12:14 ↗ right-of-way so the bus would be waiting

1:12:17 ↗ for that car to get through to make a

1:12:18 ↗ right on talus or continue straight on

1:12:21 ↗ Falcon and then make a right okay we're

1:12:24 ↗ also the do not block boxes will occur

1:12:27 ↗ at those yes good evening I'm Todd

1:12:34 ↗ McBryan with Heffron transportation just

1:12:37 ↗ to add a little bit more color to the

1:12:38 ↗ discussion so the time frame when we

1:12:42 ↗ normally see the string of buses leaving

1:12:44 ↗ the site tends to be the afternoon as

1:12:46 ↗ Tom was describing after they load them

1:12:48 ↗ all up and then they'll leave in unison

1:12:51 ↗ one by one in a line and usually when

1:12:54 ↗ you have that many buses they can get

1:12:56 ↗ out within about a five minute period

1:12:57 ↗ depending on their access condition so

1:13:01 ↗ part of our analysis as you've probably

1:13:03 ↗ seen in our detailed traffic technical

1:13:06 ↗ report included traffic counts of Falcon

1:13:08 ↗ way so we have a sense of the volume of

1:13:10 ↗ traffic in the afternoon the volume of

1:13:12 ↗ traffic at 2:15 or between 2:15 and 2:45

1:13:15 ↗ is relatively low on Falcon Drive so not

1:13:18 ↗ only do they have an alternative way

1:13:20 ↗ around but the number of folks actually

1:13:22 ↗ trying to make a turn out of Falcon on

1:13:24 ↗ to Tallis's is quite small so the number

1:13:27 ↗ of cars that might get caught behind

1:13:28 ↗ buses should be relatively small for the

1:13:33 ↗ morning timeframe part of our analysis

1:13:35 ↗ also included multiple counts and

1:13:38 ↗ observations of Pacific cascade middle

1:13:41 ↗ school and where we could observe a

1:13:43 ↗ number of buses arriving we observed

1:13:45 ↗ that site because it was similar in size

1:13:49 ↗ and had a what we expect to be a similar

1:13:52 ↗ bus transportation level making a

1:13:55 ↗ transport about 74 percent of their

1:13:56 ↗ population by bus

1:13:58 ↗ and we expect this to be at least that

1:14:00 ↗ high given its its location and what we

1:14:03 ↗ see for the bus is arriving in the

1:14:06 ↗ morning is that they might arrive to

1:14:09 ↗ three to four every five minutes at a

1:14:11 ↗ time

1:14:12 ↗ so unlike any afternoon when you might

1:14:14 ↗ have 18 buses all leaving at once in the

1:14:16 ↗ morning because they're all coming from

1:14:18 ↗ different routes throughout the area

1:14:19 ↗ they're arriving at different times

1:14:21 ↗ throughout that first 20 minutes as

1:14:23 ↗ they're getting in so you might see five

1:14:25 ↗ or six arrive in a five minute period

1:14:27 ↗ but that's why we expect in general

1:14:30 ↗ those queues to be relatively small for

1:14:32 ↗ entering the site and then getting out

1:14:37 ↗ in the afternoon the volumes on both

1:14:39 ↗ talus and Falcon are expected to be

1:14:40 ↗ lower so even with those buses in the

1:14:42 ↗ morning taking a left onto Falcon way

1:14:44 ↗ and you've got all the commuters pouring

1:14:46 ↗ off of that hill right how are they

1:14:48 ↗ really gonna traffic because the traffic

1:14:52 ↗ is down stripper the light is downstream

1:14:54 ↗ the light is downstream it's not so far

1:14:56 ↗ downstream that we wouldn't expect some

1:14:59 ↗ queuing to get to the Falcon

1:15:01 ↗ intersection which is why we've nets but

1:15:04 ↗ recommended for the you know don't walk

1:15:05 ↗ the Box section and extra signage to

1:15:08 ↗ keep folks from blocking that and so to

1:15:10 ↗ the extent that cars are coming down the

1:15:12 ↗ talus hill they come to a stop at that

1:15:14 ↗ location they'll get excuse me they

1:15:17 ↗ leave a gap for the school buses to turn

1:15:19 ↗ into or out of depending on the time of

1:15:21 ↗ day okay would you like to see the

1:15:23 ↗ traffic simulation model that they

1:15:25 ↗ prepared we have a cliff we could see

1:15:27 ↗ the morning that's movement

1:15:33 ↗ you do movies now yeah

1:15:35 ↗ there's pictures so this is this is 11

1:15:42 ↗ minutes in you might might notice by the

1:15:45 ↗ minute but this is at the 11 or 12

1:15:47 ↗ minute mark from this 725 to 5 755 time

1:15:51 ↗ frame yeah right I'll narrate a little

1:15:57 ↗ bit so what this is showing is that

1:15:59 ↗ morning arrival period and as you can

1:16:01 ↗ see some of the busses have come in and

1:16:02 ↗ and dropped off students and they've

1:16:04 ↗ already left the site some of them are

1:16:07 ↗ waiting there at the intersection and

1:16:09 ↗ some of them are still dropping students

1:16:11 ↗ off within the loading zone I would know

1:16:14 ↗ this although I think Tom mr. Mullins

1:16:18 ↗ has described how the buses operate on

1:16:20 ↗ site our visa and simulation models

1:16:23 ↗ aren't quite sophisticated enough to

1:16:25 ↗ represent the different loading and

1:16:27 ↗ unloading schemes that they're talking

1:16:29 ↗ about so they're there to show all the

1:16:31 ↗ buses lined up there but you can also

1:16:35 ↗ see the operation of the school

1:16:37 ↗ automobile load on loads as well oh well

1:16:41 ↗ this is helpful to see and thanks for

1:16:43 ↗ answering my question

1:16:54 ↗ a question again for the applicants

1:16:59 ↗ northeast elevation there was in my

1:17:03 ↗ packet I received the original and then

1:17:07 ↗ the propose but if I recall correctly

1:17:09 ↗ during the presentation there were two

1:17:11 ↗ options being explored for that or a

1:17:14 ↗ third option yeah okay so what's the

1:17:16 ↗ preferred or is can you show me that

1:17:20 ↗ third option again please

1:17:31 ↗ so this is the existing blank wall

1:17:35 ↗ that's in the design this was our first

1:17:38 ↗ thought and our second thought so the

1:17:42 ↗ the first thought is over here on the

1:17:44 ↗ left and the second thought is to bring

1:17:47 ↗ the light gray around the building to

1:17:50 ↗ really emphasize that what we refer to

1:17:52 ↗ as the cap with the darker metal and

1:17:56 ↗ where the sloped roof is and that wraps

1:17:58 ↗ around the building and that this later

1:18:01 ↗ gray kind of hugs the building Seiden so

1:18:05 ↗ architectural II we feel this is a

1:18:06 ↗ stronger statement to have this light

1:18:10 ↗ gray with the windows that have been

1:18:12 ↗ added with the would like panel in

1:18:14 ↗ between the windows okay and that's a

1:18:18 ↗ metal panel in the grave yes it's the

1:18:20 ↗ same metal panel that is on other

1:18:23 ↗ aspects other parts of the buildings

1:18:25 ↗ this gray that gray and this gray are

1:18:27 ↗ all the same and you can see the

1:18:29 ↗ building beyond has the same gray metal

1:18:31 ↗ on it just it's faded back is that a

1:18:33 ↗ raised texture is that like a corrugated

1:18:36 ↗ metal ores that have a pattern to it

1:18:40 ↗ there's so many different textures that

1:18:42 ↗ it's really hard to describe it without

1:18:43 ↗ the sample so okay I'm sorry it's

1:18:48 ↗ something we did go through with a RC

1:18:50 ↗ yeah that was my question is this an

1:18:53 ↗ architecture review committee yes yeah

1:18:55 ↗ we did talk with David Mead there okay

1:18:57 ↗ about the MINIX I mean I think as we

1:19:00 ↗ mentioned in the memo it may not be in

1:19:04 ↗ your purview if you have thoughts you're

1:19:06 ↗ welcome to share them then ERC can take

1:19:09 ↗ them under advisement but it would not

1:19:10 ↗ be our wouldn't be your decision

1:19:12 ↗ wouldn't be our decision but you're

1:19:15 ↗ welcome to share your thoughts okay

1:19:17 ↗ I appreciate the clarification I just

1:19:18 ↗ saw a couple different options so was

1:19:20 ↗ curious which one you guys went maybe a

1:19:24 ↗ related point the mesh

1:19:26 ↗ I guess the screening mesh that's being

1:19:27 ↗ used on the north wall of service

1:19:29 ↗ facility as well as on the parking

1:19:31 ↗ garage on the parking garage at least we

1:19:34 ↗ have a requirement for opacity to screen

1:19:36 ↗ headlights correct

1:19:38 ↗ so how is that mesh working to or what

1:19:43 ↗ capability do we have in the garage to

1:19:46 ↗ completely make headlights screened

1:19:50 ↗ opaquely but as well permit visibility

1:19:54 ↗ to that same material on the north wall

1:19:56 ↗ of the service area I'm just going to

1:20:00 ↗ pull up that

1:20:12 ↗ it's just the one think it's one more

1:20:18 ↗ this is a wall section of the parking

1:20:22 ↗ garage and the area right here in

1:20:27 ↗ indicates where a car would be parked

1:20:29 ↗ and this line that you see is actually a

1:20:32 ↗ dimension line but it's showing the

1:20:35 ↗ dimension of solid wall that would be

1:20:37 ↗ provided to shield headlights and then

1:20:40 ↗ there'll be openness and for the parking

1:20:44 ↗ garage that would have the mesh that

1:20:46 ↗ we've been talking about and similarly

1:20:48 ↗ on the upper deck we would have a solid

1:20:50 ↗ wall that would screen the headlights

1:20:52 ↗ sim I see okay so no cars are parked

1:20:55 ↗ right behind the mesh behind wall yes so

1:20:59 ↗ the mesh would go actually goes

1:21:01 ↗ multi-level straight up along this line

1:21:04 ↗ here and so there'd be a car that would

1:21:07 ↗ be parked you know if I could draw a car

1:21:10 ↗ with my cursor car would be in this area

1:21:12 ↗ with the headlights would be below this

1:21:14 ↗ solid concrete wall okay it looks like

1:21:23 ↗ you're not really seeing that concrete

1:21:25 ↗ wall in the elevation right because of

1:21:26 ↗ that right mesh because of the mesh yep

1:21:28 ↗ and then the mesh goes up higher to

1:21:31 ↗ provide safety

1:21:43 ↗ the other questions we were ready for

1:21:51 ↗ emotion um one one point we just wanted

1:21:56 ↗ it direction from the commissioner was

1:22:00 ↗ that the applicant is asked for a

1:22:02 ↗ condition to be modified beyond our

1:22:07 ↗ excellent editors catches so it was

1:22:14 ↗ related to noise and a modification to

1:22:20 ↗ condition 30 it's up on your screen and

1:22:24 ↗ I don't think the city has a

1:22:30 ↗ recommendation one way or the other and

1:22:33 ↗ so but this was a request of the

1:22:36 ↗ applicant um after the memo was issued

1:22:41 ↗ what's it allowed at other schools is

1:22:45 ↗ there a decibel level or anything like

1:22:47 ↗ that it's a limit I think it's so at the

1:22:52 ↗ high schools where you get amplified

1:22:57 ↗ sound I think that would fall under we

1:23:01 ↗ don't have any specific noise

1:23:03 ↗ regulations beyond we don't have a

1:23:07 ↗ specific noise regulation for a high

1:23:09 ↗ school the middle school again there was

1:23:14 ↗ a prohibition on all amplified sound and

1:23:19 ↗ I think that was again coming from the

1:23:22 ↗ development Commission district agreed

1:23:24 ↗ to it I think in thinking about it more

1:23:27 ↗ under these circumstances this was a

1:23:31 ↗ request you and as we were talking about

1:23:35 ↗ the examples that were shared and you

1:23:37 ↗ can elaborate further was if there's

1:23:39 ↗ fire drills and they're out on the field

1:23:41 ↗ they need to give direction to the

1:23:43 ↗ students and the teachers about how to

1:23:46 ↗ queue up and then for track means we're

1:23:48 ↗ gonna speak further

1:23:50 ↗ I'm Jason Morse McGee an executive

1:23:53 ↗ director of middle schools with the

1:23:54 ↗ equesticle district so really the

1:23:57 ↗ intention here would be during our

1:23:59 ↗ mandatory safety and evacuation drills

1:24:03 ↗ it is very common for all of our middle

1:24:06 ↗ schools at this point in time to use

1:24:08 ↗ typically a bullhorn simply to address

1:24:13 ↗ you know 800 students in staff to

1:24:17 ↗ provide direction during attendance

1:24:19 ↗ taking while we are in the field on an

1:24:21 ↗ evacuation drill or for that matter in

1:24:25 ↗ the case of an actual evacuation if a

1:24:29 ↗ fire alarm were to go out it's intended

1:24:32 ↗ more as a safety precaution to simply

1:24:35 ↗ communicate with a large group of staff

1:24:38 ↗ and students on the field I would

1:24:41 ↗ articulate that under my knowledge now

1:24:46 ↗ currently none of our middle schools

1:24:47 ↗ have a amplified built-in speaker system

1:24:52 ↗ that would be as an example playing

1:24:55 ↗ music at a sporting event or something

1:24:57 ↗ like that

1:24:58 ↗ is Jenna it's typically a portable

1:25:00 ↗ microphone system or a bullhorn there is

1:25:04 ↗ one other time that portable system

1:25:09 ↗ would be likely used for our middle

1:25:12 ↗ school and that would be during a track

1:25:14 ↗ meet simply - if you've been to attract

1:25:17 ↗ me to announce when competitors should

1:25:21 ↗ report to a starting line so for example

1:25:24 ↗ it would be used to announce so the

1:25:28 ↗ students on the field could hear you

1:25:30 ↗ know as an example all 100-meter dash

1:25:32 ↗ runners please report to the start line

1:25:35 ↗ now I would like to just emphasize that

1:25:40 ↗ currently we have five middle schools in

1:25:42 ↗ our school district and we only compete

1:25:45 ↗ within our own district so we would have

1:25:48 ↗ six middle schools at the time of this

1:25:50 ↗ school being opened

1:25:51 ↗ we typically divide home-and-away meets

1:25:55 ↗ evenly so the likelihood of a home track

1:25:58 ↗ meet would be two or three

1:26:00 ↗ from the end of April to the start of

1:26:03 ↗ June so over that four to five week

1:26:06 ↗ period of May probably two maybe three

1:26:10 ↗ home track meets would take place those

1:26:12 ↗ track needs would typically take place

1:26:14 ↗ between approximately 3 p.m. and 6 p.m.

1:26:17 ↗ so it's not going to be late into the

1:26:19 ↗ night or into the hours and those are

1:26:22 ↗ really the two times where it just in

1:26:25 ↗ the interest of transparency that that

1:26:26 ↗ would be pretty standard safety practice

1:26:30 ↗ to be able to address our students and

1:26:32 ↗ also to manage the egress from the

1:26:37 ↗ building and from the field back back to

1:26:39 ↗ the building Lots on the condition

1:26:45 ↗ proposed since this is new to us this

1:26:48 ↗ evening I'm still not clear on condition

1:26:58 ↗ 30 is amplified sound prohibited the

1:27:06 ↗ amplified sound from permanent speakers

1:27:09 ↗ would be prohibited but portable

1:27:14 ↗ speakers and bullhorns would be allowed

1:27:16 ↗ only by this school using it for

1:27:19 ↗ emergency drills and Trek meets for this

1:27:22 ↗ condition but I guess the original staff

1:27:26 ↗ report said use of amplified sound shall

1:27:29 ↗ be prohibited right so where did that

1:27:31 ↗ come from it was it was intended to

1:27:35 ↗ match the condition that the development

1:27:37 ↗ Commission put on this equip middle

1:27:38 ↗ school ok their field

1:27:47 ↗ so there's no portable sound system

1:27:50 ↗ allowed it is qualms I wasn't involved

1:27:52 ↗ in that one okay so just a little

1:27:56 ↗ history on that one so we had a

1:27:58 ↗ neighborhood somewhere that's been close

1:28:01 ↗ proximity to

1:28:02 ↗ Issaquah middle school and obviously

1:28:04 ↗ they're very concerned about when

1:28:07 ↗ lighting was at into the field

1:28:08 ↗ late evening events more concerned about

1:28:12 ↗ noise from those events and there was a

1:28:16 ↗ conversation about amplified sound that

1:28:19 ↗ resulted in the Commission conditioning

1:28:22 ↗ either this or similar to this condition

1:28:24 ↗ that prohibited and amplified sound at

1:28:25 ↗ that field I feel like having that

1:28:31 ↗ information now sets the precedent if

1:28:34 ↗ it's if it's a similar scenario where

1:28:37 ↗ you have community close by so shouldn't

1:28:40 ↗ the precedent prevail as opposed to

1:28:44 ↗ allowing this because it isn't now the

1:28:48 ↗ option that the other middle school

1:28:50 ↗ could want amplified sound at times

1:28:52 ↗ because this school does so with that in

1:28:55 ↗ mind I don't know what are you guys

1:28:58 ↗ their thoughts an option could be to

1:29:01 ↗ have it limited to the hours the lights

1:29:03 ↗ are used well that wouldn't it would

1:29:06 ↗ they wouldn't be out there anyway you

1:29:08 ↗ probably wouldn't want it out there wait

1:29:10 ↗ wait yeah well it sounds like it's these

1:29:13 ↗ will be turned off well before 9:00 p.m.

1:29:15 ↗ or 9:15 p.m. when the lights are turning

1:29:17 ↗ off I mean the low frequency of usage as

1:29:20 ↗ described I don't see that as personally

1:29:24 ↗ being a concern but right generally

1:29:27 ↗ speaking any fire drill or evacuation

1:29:31 ↗ drill would be mandated seven drills a

1:29:38 ↗ year on evac but I mean realistically

1:29:42 ↗ once a month is a pretty good indicator

1:29:45 ↗ of a requirement for that drill now I

1:29:48 ↗ can't comment on should an actual real

1:29:51 ↗ earthquake happen or a fire happen

1:29:53 ↗ obviously we would we would exercise our

1:29:56 ↗ drill in that case hopefully the

1:29:58 ↗ frequency of that is quite

1:30:00 ↗ limited does the Issaquah middle school

1:30:03 ↗ do four drills of that sort my

1:30:07 ↗ understanding the evac is well first

1:30:11 ↗ sound for sound I was under the

1:30:13 ↗ impression that they would use a

1:30:14 ↗ bullhorn in that case and do they have

1:30:19 ↗ similar facilities similar play field is

1:30:22 ↗ about middle school as we speak has

1:30:25 ↗ actually would have more because I

1:30:27 ↗ believe they have a baseball field

1:30:29 ↗ is that true on their site they have a

1:30:31 ↗ baseball field but they also have the

1:30:33 ↗ track and the turf field and the Tallis

1:30:36 ↗ middle school would have the track and

1:30:37 ↗ turf field but no baseball field I think

1:30:40 ↗ the thing that I would add is I think

1:30:42 ↗ all bets are off in an actual so I think

1:30:46 ↗ this is probably about more the

1:30:49 ↗ scheduled events this for your

1:30:53 ↗ considering I would articulate that it's

1:30:55 ↗ quite likely that the fire and aid

1:30:57 ↗ response would have a louder siren

1:30:59 ↗ system than principal out there asking

1:31:02 ↗ the sixth graders to please stay quieter

1:31:04 ↗ in the drill

1:31:06 ↗ my name is Royston or gate with a school

1:31:09 ↗ district I was part of the field

1:31:11 ↗ lighting for the middle school part of

1:31:14 ↗ the concern is is as a as a community

1:31:18 ↗ field the amplified music was not

1:31:20 ↗ supposed to be done that got signs on

1:31:22 ↗ there for 8 o'clock as far as for

1:31:25 ↗ emergencies and that kind of stuff that

1:31:27 ↗ is no longer really a field as much as

1:31:29 ↗ it is a a gathering space to do that so

1:31:32 ↗ I'm sure that they're still using the

1:31:34 ↗ bullhorn but not for PE or anything like

1:31:37 ↗ that the other concern that became with

1:31:39 ↗ music is that neighborhoods because they

1:31:41 ↗ can hear is equal high school we're

1:31:43 ↗ really concerned that we're gonna put in

1:31:46 ↗ a sound system and they were gonna have

1:31:47 ↗ another Stadium type situation where the

1:31:50 ↗ music was really loud and lots of

1:31:53 ↗ activity like that and so that's where

1:31:54 ↗ some of the sound system issues came up

1:31:56 ↗ was so that we didn't repeat Issaquah

1:31:59 ↗ high school and have another full-size

1:32:01 ↗ stadium so that's that's some of the

1:32:04 ↗ background on on why the the limited

1:32:07 ↗ amplified music so just wanted to give

1:32:10 ↗ you a heads up on that

1:32:11 ↗ like yeah I think that's an accurate

1:32:13 ↗ statement of the conversation I think it

1:32:16 ↗ really was concerned about permanent

1:32:18 ↗ sound system being installed in a much

1:32:21 ↗ more accurate event

1:32:22 ↗ I guess my reaction to this one is

1:32:26 ↗ obviously for emergency drills etc the

1:32:29 ↗ use of a bullhorn is just isn't

1:32:32 ↗ necessary to ensure the safety of of the

1:32:35 ↗ kids and the staff the use of a hand

1:32:38 ↗ bullhorn or portable speaker for the

1:32:41 ↗ purpose of communication probably isn't

1:32:44 ↗ too obtrusive I think like any neighbor

1:32:47 ↗ if it becomes that then you start

1:32:49 ↗ hearing from them and but this is a

1:32:51 ↗ fairly limited a fairly narrow condition

1:32:55 ↗ I think as far as it they use I do think

1:32:59 ↗ though I would narrow it even further

1:33:01 ↗ and it would just be for the purpose of

1:33:03 ↗ communication so bullhorn may be used

1:33:06 ↗ for the purpose of communication for

1:33:08 ↗ school operations and school sponsored

1:33:11 ↗ events so that we don't have music and

1:33:13 ↗ there's no question about that that's

1:33:14 ↗ not allowed because things have a

1:33:16 ↗ tendency to creep but that's my opinion

1:33:19 ↗ I don't know that a limited use of a

1:33:22 ↗ bullhorn for communication purposes for

1:33:24 ↗ drills or for kid events on the field

1:33:28 ↗ would be overly obtrusive and we have a

1:33:30 ↗ bit of an elevation or grade change out

1:33:32 ↗ there to everybody above which helps a

1:33:34 ↗ little bit to in this case yeah there's

1:33:37 ↗ a massive retaining wall right and I

1:33:40 ↗ guess who knows until it's in practice

1:33:43 ↗ but it seems like it what might

1:33:44 ↗ reverberate back and minimize the noise

1:33:47 ↗ and we assume that the communication is

1:33:49 ↗ always by school administration do the

1:33:52 ↗ students in these events a safe

1:33:54 ↗ assumption or are there others

1:33:57 ↗ thank you a great question it would be I

1:33:59 ↗ would say it would be by school staff

1:34:00 ↗ and the only reason that would

1:34:02 ↗ articulate staff versus administration

1:34:05 ↗ is should both administrators be at a

1:34:07 ↗ meeting the Dean of Students would take

1:34:09 ↗ over not technically an administrator

1:34:11 ↗ but it would be a member of the safety

1:34:14 ↗ team and a member of the staff that

1:34:18 ↗ would be communicating yes okay so I

1:34:21 ↗ wonder if we could add that to the

1:34:22 ↗ condition as we go I think I think that

1:34:26 ↗ would be that my edit would be maybe

1:34:32 ↗ used to facilitate communication or

1:34:36 ↗ school operations or school sponsor

1:34:38 ↗ events and then it's gonna take me two

1:34:44 ↗ long lunches let's say so what what I've

1:34:46 ↗ edited and she's gonna pull it up well I

1:34:53 ↗ modified it so it says portable speakers

1:34:55 ↗ or bullhorns

1:34:57 ↗ maybe used by school staff for the

1:35:00 ↗ purpose of communication for school

1:35:02 ↗ operations or at school sponsored events

1:35:06 ↗ um maybe too many prone

1:35:14 ↗ you can the meeting it gets the point

1:35:19 ↗ across

1:35:21 ↗ besides the Issaquah middle school look

1:35:23 ↗ what happens at the other middle schools

1:35:25 ↗ in the district or amplified sound yes

1:35:36 ↗ the other four middle schools in the

1:35:40 ↗ district they would either use a

1:35:41 ↗ portable bullhorn or as part of their

1:35:44 ↗ state to procedure they they wheel out a

1:35:46 ↗ small portable microphone with a

1:35:52 ↗ ampulla you know sound device that they

1:35:55 ↗ that's small enough to be portable

1:35:56 ↗ during the event of a building

1:35:59 ↗ evacuation what about sporting events

1:36:01 ↗ sporting events the only sporting events

1:36:03 ↗ that I'm aware of that would use any

1:36:05 ↗ bullhorn or sound like that is the two

1:36:09 ↗ to three track needs home track meets

1:36:11 ↗ per year and again that's intended on

1:36:15 ↗ communicating with the students on where

1:36:18 ↗ they should be on the field so they

1:36:19 ↗ don't miss a start of a race I remember

1:36:25 ↗ that from high school track personally

1:36:29 ↗ there's Mike I agree with my fellow

1:36:33 ↗ commissioners I think communication is a

1:36:35 ↗ good keyword to include that just you

1:36:37 ↗ know prevents the situation from being

1:36:39 ↗ taken advantage of it's it's done with a

1:36:43 ↗ purpose and I think that's important

1:36:45 ↗ obviously safety is a huge factor so we

1:36:47 ↗ got to keep that in mind and still allow

1:36:49 ↗ that to be done

1:36:57 ↗ anything else

1:36:58 ↗ questions for staff or the applicant and

1:37:06 ↗ we are comfortable with the responses

1:37:10 ↗ sounds like we have some amendments have

1:37:13 ↗ been made to conditions but what you see

1:37:17 ↗ on the screen are the three other than

1:37:19 ↗ 30 that you were just discussing twenty

1:37:22 ↗ thirty three and forty three are the

1:37:26 ↗ ones you identified I've left the track

1:37:29 ↗ changes in as it appears in your memo

1:37:31 ↗ but highlighted the words where as far

1:37:36 ↗ as I could tell you either caught a typo

1:37:39 ↗ or suggested at it transcription down

1:37:55 ↗ mr. Chairman I move that the development

1:37:58 ↗ Commission approved the site development

1:38:00 ↗ permit for middle school number six

1:38:02 ↗ file number STP 19-0 zero zero zero two

1:38:07 ↗ and subscribed and evaluated and the

1:38:09 ↗ staff report dated January 9 2020 with

1:38:12 ↗ attachments one through 15 reefing

1:38:15 ↗ response memo dated February three 2020

1:38:18 ↗ with attachments one through eleven and

1:38:19 ↗ project drawings and reports received

1:38:21 ↗ April 1 2019 and all subsequent

1:38:24 ↗ submittals up to January 28 2020 and

1:38:27 ↗ subject to the conditions therein and as

1:38:30 ↗ amended tonight and I move that the

1:38:33 ↗ development Commission direct the

1:38:35 ↗ development services department to

1:38:37 ↗ prepare it take them a separate motion

1:38:39 ↗ so very the first one first to approve

1:38:41 ↗ all then we'll move to okay take my

1:38:44 ↗ separate so is there a second I would

1:38:45 ↗ second great thanks for the motion any

1:38:48 ↗ additional discussion or amendment I

1:38:51 ↗ want to I want to make one suggestion

1:38:54 ↗ just based on the conversation that we

1:38:56 ↗ had

1:38:57 ↗ about the turn around the vehicle turn

1:38:59 ↗ around and the trail crossing might be

1:39:01 ↗ good to add something that really

1:39:03 ↗ emphasizes what you're talking about and

1:39:04 ↗ that was the notion of visibility

1:39:06 ↗ between the pedestrians and vehicle and

1:39:09 ↗ the drivers and so I'm going to suggest

1:39:12 ↗ some language here for an additional

1:39:16 ↗ condition number 46

1:39:19 ↗ I believe worth I believe that number 46

1:39:22 ↗ is the where we go said would be to

1:39:25 ↗ ensure the design of landscaping in a

1:39:27 ↗ hard scape for the vehicle drop-off turn

1:39:29 ↗ around will maintain clear sight lines

1:39:32 ↗ between drivers and pedestrians

1:39:34 ↗ accessing the school property from the

1:39:36 ↗ trail the idea is to make sure that we

1:39:39 ↗ don't have anything because there's

1:39:40 ↗ landscaping in that turn around there's

1:39:43 ↗ hard scape because it's on there's some

1:39:45 ↗ slope and some walls in there so to pay

1:39:49 ↗ particular attention to sight lines and

1:39:51 ↗ making sure that we don't have things

1:39:52 ↗ planted that grow tall particularly even

1:39:56 ↗ though we have low probability of kids

1:39:59 ↗ using students using that trail for

1:40:01 ↗ accessing the school ensuring that we're

1:40:03 ↗ taking every step we can to make that a

1:40:06 ↗ safe environment for crossing so they

1:40:07 ↗ don't get conflicted with vehicles do

1:40:12 ↗ I'd be happy to condition number 46

1:40:16 ↗ ensure the design of landscaping and a

1:40:20 ↗ hard scape okay just okay or the vehicle

1:40:28 ↗ turn around or excuse me for the vehicle

1:40:31 ↗ drop-off turn around so it's the

1:40:35 ↗ drop-off zone and the turn around will

1:40:37 ↗ maintain clear sight lines

1:40:42 ↗ between drivers and pedestrians

1:40:49 ↗ accessing the school property from the

1:40:54 ↗ trail would you mind if I added the word

1:41:00 ↗ community in front of trail that would

1:41:02 ↗ be just to be clear that would be great

1:41:04 ↗ thank you

1:41:15 ↗ so I will move that as an amendment to

1:41:17 ↗ the conditions on the motion and is

1:41:20 ↗ there a second second

1:41:23 ↗ any comments questions additions edits

1:41:28 ↗ great I'm glad we have some language

1:41:30 ↗ around this Thanks

1:41:32 ↗ so all in favor then of approving this

1:41:36 ↗ as an additional condition please say

1:41:38 ↗ aye aye opposed

1:41:40 ↗ okay so we'll add that as a condition

1:41:42 ↗ now we're back to the main motion any

1:41:45 ↗ additional questions can or excuse me

1:41:48 ↗ conditions very minutes

1:41:51 ↗ seeing none all those in favor of the

1:41:54 ↗ main motion say aye

1:41:55 ↗ aye opposed and I moved at the

1:42:02 ↗ Development Commission direct the

1:42:04 ↗ development services department to

1:42:06 ↗ prepare findings of fact and conclusions

1:42:07 ↗ for review and approval by the

1:42:09 ↗ development commission chairman

1:42:11 ↗ affirming the development Commission's

1:42:12 ↗ decision to approve the middle school

1:42:14 ↗ number six project file number SDP dash

1:42:18 ↗ zero zero zero two subjects are the

1:42:20 ↗ conditions listed in the staff report

1:42:22 ↗ date of January 9 2020 with attachments

1:42:25 ↗ 1 through 15 briefing response memo

1:42:28 ↗ dated February 3 2020 with attachments 1

1:42:32 ↗ through 11 and project drawings and

1:42:34 ↗ reports received April 1 2019 and all

1:42:38 ↗ subsequent subsequent submittals up to

1:42:40 ↗ January 28 2020 and subject to the

1:42:43 ↗ conditions therein and as amended

1:42:45 ↗ tonight is there a second can I make a

1:42:49 ↗ comment on it did you say attachments 1

1:42:52 ↗ through 11 is that what I said it says 1

1:42:57 ↗ through 1 I know I said it I believe I

1:42:59 ↗ said attachments 1 to 11 I hope I did

1:43:01 ↗ that I'm gonna copy oh okay okay is

1:43:03 ↗ there a second person another coming we

1:43:06 ↗ say acting development Commission's year

1:43:11 ↗ absolutely the we would have put acting

1:43:16 ↗ great that comes to me it would be

1:43:19 ↗ approval by the acting Development

1:43:20 ↗ Commission Chairman is there a second I

1:43:25 ↗ second there's a second any discussion

1:43:29 ↗ seeing none all in favor say aye aye

1:43:32 ↗ opposed unanimous thank you so we have

1:43:36 ↗ cross the finish line with the mill

1:43:42 ↗ stool number six just a quick comment on

1:43:46 ↗ this so this is that this has been a

1:43:48 ↗ challenging project I know from

1:43:49 ↗ everybody that's been involved because

1:43:51 ↗ this site is not an easy one

1:43:53 ↗ I do certainly appreciate the Commission

1:43:55 ↗ certainly appreciates the active

1:43:57 ↗ involvement from the community on this I

1:43:59 ↗ know even outside the Commission the

1:44:01 ↗ district and the city staff have been

1:44:02 ↗ working with the community to get

1:44:04 ↗ feedback input to help shape the design

1:44:06 ↗ of this facility I think it's going to

1:44:09 ↗ be a great addition to the cities or to

1:44:11 ↗ the school districts facilities and to

1:44:13 ↗ the community so really appreciate all

1:44:16 ↗ the great work from the whole team both

1:44:18 ↗ the city the school district and the

1:44:20 ↗ community and the Commission cells nice

1:44:22 ↗ work

1:44:23 ↗ so we have another meeting scheduled for

1:44:26 ↗ Wednesday you're organized way too hard

1:44:29 ↗ so we have a I believe that's a joint

1:44:31 ↗ meeting with the is that with the

1:44:32 ↗ Planning Policy Commission so we are

1:44:35 ↗ adjourned until Wednesday thank you

1:44:39 ↗ thanks thank you thank you very much

1:44:49 ↗ you

1:44:53 ↗ you

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Attendance

Council / Members (5)

Michael Brennan, Acting Chair

Kevin Price

Richard Sanford

Brooke Shore

Arthur Schulte, Alternate (voting as Regular Member)

Staff (4)

Lucy Sloman, Land Development Mgr.

Keith Niven, Econ. Dev. & Dev. Services Director

Doug Schlepp, DSD Eng. Consultant

Katie Cote, Planning Consultant

Excused

Richard Sowa

Mel Morgan

Ben Rush

Guests (2)

Jason Morse, Issaquah School District

Tom Mullins, Issaquah School District

Recommendations & actions (4)

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MOVED BY SANFORD, SECONDED BY PRICE that BRENNAN be elected Acting Chair for tonight’s meeting.
a) It was the consensus of all Development Commission members present that minutes of the January 15, 2020 meeting be approved as presented.
As an ongoing condition of operation, the school will be required to use the approved Parking Management Plan whenever an event hosted at the school is expected to exceed on-site capacity, which will be defined in the…
MOVED BY BRENNAN, SECONDED BY SCHULTE that New Condition 46 be added, as follows: Condition