Development Commission - Special Meeting · Monday, February 10, 2020 · City Council Digest

1. CALL TO ORDER

Elect Temporary Chair

Action · packet pp.3

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Staff report:

Development Commission About Staff Liaison Created in 1983, this commission reviews all land Lucy Sloman, use actions requiring a Level 3 review. The Land Development Manager Commission further serves as an advisory board Email to the City Council on land use actions requiring council approval (Level 5 review). Regular Members 2020 – Melvin Morgan The appearance of fairness doctrine prohibits 2020 – Kevin Price Development Commission members and City 2022 – Michael Brennan Council members from discussing the merit of 2022 – Richard Sowa specific land use development applications outside 2022 – Richard Sanford of the formal public meeting process. Citizens, 2023 – Brooke Shore however, may discuss any issue with the City's 2023 – Ben Rush Development Services Department. Written comments are also welcome. Alternate Members 2020 – Vacant Membership 2020 – Vacant The Development Commission…

2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Minutes of January 15, 2020 15 - 83 Site Development Permit for Middle a) School No. 6 in Talus - Quasi-judicial, Application No. SDP19-00002

Katie Cote, Planning Consultant Kim Young and Rebecca Baibak, Integrus Architecture · packet pp.5–13

Topics: Land Use

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Staff report:

APPROVAL OF MINUTES a) 1-15-20 Development Commission Minutes Page [0000]

4. OTHER BUSINESS / ANNOUNCEMENTS

The next meeting is a special meeting scheduled for February 12, 2020 at 6:30 p.m. in Council Chambers, 135 E. Sunset Way

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0:15 ↗ you go

0:16 ↗ good evening and welcome to the special

0:19 ↗ meeting of the Development Commission on

0:21 ↗ February 10th I'm acting initially as

0:24 ↗ the facilitator to help us with our

0:25 ↗ first item on the agenda which is to

0:28 ↗ elect a temporary chair for this

0:29 ↗ evenings meeting since our chair and our

0:32 ↗ Vice Chair had conflicts this evening so

0:35 ↗ we'll open the nominations for a chair

0:37 ↗ from commissioners here this evening I

0:40 ↗ would like to nominate Commissioner Mike

0:42 ↗ Brennan as chairman Pro Tem for

0:44 ↗ tonight's proceedings second any other

0:47 ↗ nominations I nominate as well you can

0:53 ↗ see where this is going

0:54 ↗ all those in favor of electing my friend

0:59 ↗ as the chair for the evening say aye

1:02 ↗ aye opposed thank you moving on then we

1:08 ↗ will first order of business is to take

1:10 ↗ care of our meeting minutes from the

1:12 ↗ January 15th meeting has everybody had

1:15 ↗ an opportunity to review the minutes any

1:18 ↗ comments or Corrections on the meeting

1:21 ↗ minutes

1:22 ↗ no no seeing none and we will adopt

1:26 ↗ those minutes by consensus so the main

1:31 ↗ item on the agenda this evening is the

1:33 ↗ continuing public hearing for the site

1:35 ↗ development permit for middle school

1:37 ↗ number six at talus this is a

1:40 ↗ continuation of hearing that started in

1:44 ↗ on January 15th tonight we will hear

1:48 ↗ from staff and information from the

1:50 ↗ response memo an opportunity for the

1:53 ↗ district to provide any additional input

1:55 ↗ on the response and then we will have an

1:58 ↗ opportunity for the public to comment if

2:00 ↗ any members of the public are here this

2:01 ↗ evening that would like to comment there

2:03 ↗ is a sign-up sheets on the podium so

2:07 ↗ please sign up in advance and then when

2:09 ↗ you do approach the podium please state

2:12 ↗ your name and address if you wish for

2:14 ↗ the record so with that turn it over to

2:17 ↗ miss Loman

2:24 ↗ I'm a manager I'm going to start with

2:26 ↗ our quasi-judicial examination as this

2:35 ↗ needs is a quasi-judicial permit we need

2:38 ↗ to have proceedings which both are fair

2:41 ↗ and appear fair that means we use both

2:44 ↗ procedural due process and substantive

2:46 ↗ due process procedural due process means

2:49 ↗ we follow a certain process and we focus

2:52 ↗ on decision makers relationship with the

2:55 ↗ applicant substantive due process means

2:58 ↗ we base our decisions on adopted

3:01 ↗ regulations if you would read through

3:04 ↗ the questions on your monitors and then

3:06 ↗ I'll ask you for your responses in a

3:08 ↗ moment

3:23 ↗ how many answer no to all the questions

3:26 ↗ I do okay great and then part of a

3:33 ↗ quasi-judicial matter is that all

3:35 ↗ decisions are based on a record that's

3:38 ↗ made in the public any contacts related

3:41 ↗ to this permit that take place outside

3:43 ↗ of this public setting we need to

3:47 ↗ discuss those that's interesting

3:54 ↗ have you had any discussions outside of

3:58 ↗ the public hearing no thank you

4:02 ↗ does the applicant wish to challenge any

4:05 ↗ of the commissioners participation okay

4:09 ↗ great thank you

4:26 ↗ good evening i'm katie cody planning

4:29 ↗ consultant with the city of Issaquah i

4:30 ↗ will be joined shortly by member from

4:33 ↗ the applicants team and we have a

4:35 ↗ presentation to go through in response

4:37 ↗ to the questions and comments brought up

4:38 ↗ at the first development mission mean

4:41 ↗ just to refresh everyone's memory we've

4:44 ↗ undergone a public process this is a

4:47 ↗ level 3 quasi-judicial permit we last

4:51 ↗ met in January at the January 15th

4:53 ↗ public hearing the first portion

4:55 ↗ tonight's February 10th the second

4:57 ↗ portion oh I also wanted to mention that

5:01 ↗ SEPA has been issued on this permit and

5:03 ↗ that the mitigated determination on

5:06 ↗ significance was included in your packet

5:08 ↗ and the school district is the CEPA lead

5:10 ↗ for this so they'll addressed SEPA as

5:13 ↗ part of this presentation so just to

5:17 ↗ remind everyone of the vicinity of the

5:20 ↗ project this is a undeveloped site at

5:22 ↗ the talus community it's located on

5:25 ↗ talus Drive off of SR 900 the proposal

5:30 ↗ includes a middle school and associated

5:34 ↗ athletic facilities a two-level parking

5:37 ↗ garage a bus loop a passenger drop-off

5:41 ↗ loop loop and an emergency access as

5:45 ↗ well as a trail on the southern part of

5:48 ↗ the site that will be open for community

5:51 ↗ use

5:54 ↗ and turn it over to the school district

5:56 ↗ to address Seba thank you my name is

6:00 ↗ Rebecca Bay back with Integris

6:01 ↗ architecture I'm gonna walk through a

6:03 ↗ couple of items in tandem here so the

6:07 ↗ CEPA decision was issued there were some

6:10 ↗ proposed mitigation conditions that

6:12 ↗ align with conditions of the site

6:13 ↗ development permit and they include

6:16 ↗ categories around erosion and sediment

6:18 ↗ control air quality stormwater plants

6:21 ↗ and animals noise lighting and

6:23 ↗ transportation the regarding noise is

6:30 ↗ quest school district proposes a

6:32 ↗ revision to condition condition number

6:33 ↗ 30

6:34 ↗ Part C to align with the CEPA conditions

6:38 ↗ four and five under noise this was not

6:40 ↗ included in the briefing response memo

6:43 ↗ and what includes is prohibiting the

6:47 ↗ installation of permanent speakers and

6:50 ↗ allowing portable speakers in bullhorns

6:52 ↗ for school operations for example fire

6:55 ↗ drills and track meets and it would be

6:58 ↗ school sponsored events only any third

7:02 ↗ party or community users would be

7:04 ↗ prohibited from using portable speakers

7:06 ↗ or bullhorns and it would be signed

7:08 ↗ appropriately to note this prohibition

7:10 ↗ so I wanted to point out that this

7:15 ↗ revision to this is a revision to as

7:20 ↗ site development permit condition and

7:22 ↗ this was not included in the briefing

7:24 ↗ response memo so this is the first time

7:25 ↗ you'll be hearing about it so if you do

7:28 ↗ agree with this revised condition we

7:31 ↗ would need to make that part of the any

7:33 ↗ eventual motion for approval just to

7:36 ↗ highlight that procedural step

7:43 ↗ the next item was responding to a

7:46 ↗ question about the signal design and the

7:49 ↗ movements through the intersection the

7:52 ↗ signal Design Concepts allows for full

7:55 ↗ access

7:57 ↗ so the arrow doesn't quite work there

8:01 ↗ goes so the signal design allows for

8:05 ↗ right and left out of our site and for

8:09 ↗ left turn on to the site and right turn

8:12 ↗ on to our site the specific dimensions

8:15 ↗ will be reviewed later with the site

8:17 ↗ work permit but I just wanted to

8:19 ↗ highlight what the signal will allow for

8:22 ↗ the traffic flow on the site and then

8:28 ↗ there was also a question about what can

8:31 ↗ be done to prevent excessive speeding

8:33 ↗ along talus Drive we talked a bit about

8:36 ↗ this on the 15th the new conditions of

8:39 ↗ approval that have been proposed is

8:40 ↗ reduced school speed zone signage and

8:43 ↗ radar speed signs and speed study to

8:46 ↗ evaluate those impacts so this is new

8:53 ↗ proposed condition numbers 42 and 43 so

8:58 ↗ I'm going to go back to 42 essentially

9:01 ↗ we are asking for I won't repeat what

9:05 ↗ Rebecca said but our traffic engineer is

9:07 ↗ here tonight if we wanted to discuss

9:09 ↗ these conditions in further detail but

9:12 ↗ the basics are that speed flashing

9:16 ↗ beacons and radar will be required and

9:18 ↗ then we'll monitor the situation for two

9:20 ↗ years and after two years ask the school

9:24 ↗ district to compare the speeds to the

9:28 ↗ the current baseline speed to see if

9:30 ↗ additional measures are needed

9:35 ↗ another question that was asked was

9:37 ↗ about the entry to the bus loop work and

9:41 ↗ how the sidewalk and whether the

9:43 ↗ sidewalk would be at a constant grade

9:45 ↗ yes it will be and specific details will

9:48 ↗ be reviewed with our site work permit so

9:51 ↗ there's no change to the proposed

9:52 ↗ approved conditions and the bus loop can

9:54 ↗ meet the proposed condition number 12

10:04 ↗ and then there was a question about

10:07 ↗ whether falcon weight could be widened

10:09 ↗ with 11 foot lanes a limited portion of

10:13 ↗ the travel lanes between talus drive and

10:14 ↗ the bus loop entrance will be widened

10:16 ↗ through an administrative adjustment of

10:18 ↗ standards issued on the 31st of January

10:21 ↗ and you can highlight the conclusion

10:24 ↗ there and then their other question was

10:31 ↗ what are the impacts of this project on

10:33 ↗ the intersection what is the expected

10:34 ↗ delay or change in level of service the

10:37 ↗ traffic impact analysis found that the

10:39 ↗ project would add some peak hour delay

10:41 ↗ but would not change the overall level

10:44 ↗ of service the intersection operation

10:47 ↗ will be monitored by approval approval

10:49 ↗ condition number one and again our

10:52 ↗ traffic engineer is here if we want to

10:54 ↗ get into more detail on that

11:00 ↗ the next item was about how can drivers

11:02 ↗ be prevented from dropping students off

11:04 ↗ in an inappropriate places along talis

11:07 ↗ drive or on Falcon Way the site work

11:10 ↗ permit will be reviewed for potential to

11:12 ↗ address this issue we will be providing

11:15 ↗ no stopping or sanding signage that can

11:17 ↗ be installed if monitoring shows it's

11:19 ↗ needed a long talis drive or Falcon Way

11:22 ↗ and then there's a revised condition

11:24 ↗ that notes that

11:27 ↗ additionally the STP was based on the

11:28 ↗ model performance of the school for the

11:30 ↗ number of aspects including traffic l OS

11:33 ↗ traffic operations of the access control

11:36 ↗ on site queuing and stacking on site

11:39 ↗ parking quantities as indicated by an on

11:42 ↗ and off street parking as well as

11:44 ↗ stopping and standing on surrounding

11:45 ↗ streets on an off-site special event

11:49 ↗ parking procedures and off-site queuing

11:51 ↗ on talus Drive the next question was

11:56 ↗ would the drivers be able to make a

11:58 ↗ u-turn at the internal road to avoid

12:00 ↗ having to drive the whole loop and the

12:04 ↗ u-turns will be prohibited

12:05 ↗ there'll be no u-turn signage that can

12:08 ↗ be provided and then the school district

12:11 ↗ will have flaggers present during

12:12 ↗ pick-up and drop-off that they'll be

12:14 ↗ monitoring driver behavior those times

12:21 ↗ there was a question about what is the

12:23 ↗ plan for people to cross between the

12:24 ↗ parking garage and and the building what

12:26 ↗ traffic calming measures are proposed on

12:29 ↗ the entry road so as this graphic

12:31 ↗ indicates there is a change in color and

12:34 ↗ texture and there will be a raised cross

12:37 ↗ work from the garage to the main entry a

12:39 ↗ crossing guard during pick-up and

12:42 ↗ drop-off will also be on site in this

12:45 ↗ area another quick question was will the

12:50 ↗ 10-foot sidewalk from talus way onto the

12:53 ↗ site be divided to show bicycle and

12:55 ↗ pedestrian areas this is the blue

12:58 ↗ sidewalk here typical of multi-use

13:01 ↗ sidewalks sharing will be first managed

13:03 ↗ through family communication signage and

13:06 ↗ on-site staff enforcement pavement

13:09 ↗ marking could be added in the future if

13:11 ↗ warranted the anticipation is that

13:14 ↗ they'll be supervision

13:15 ↗ at this point on the site what is the

13:22 ↗ typical morning bus queue of Telus Drive

13:25 ↗ left turn lane to Falcon Way with such a

13:28 ↗ short left turn lane while buses stick

13:30 ↗ into the through Lane is it possible

13:32 ↗ drivers may not let the buses turn onto

13:35 ↗ Falcon the typical queue is one or two

13:38 ↗ buses which will not interfere fear with

13:41 ↗ 120 foot left turn lane they'll be do

13:44 ↗ not block pavement markings and signage

13:46 ↗ will be installed at the talus falcon

13:48 ↗ intersection and its quest old school

13:51 ↗ district can manage timing of bus

13:52 ↗ arrivals if impacts are observed after

13:55 ↗ the school opens

13:57 ↗ is there a possibility that buses could

14:00 ↗ slide downhill if they have to stop on a

14:02 ↗ hill during icy or snowy weather the

14:04 ↗ buses come equipped with chains for

14:06 ↗ inclement weather and the school School

14:08 ↗ District has established a weather

14:09 ↗ monitoring procedure and the buses will

14:13 ↗ be stored off-site thus the conclusion

14:15 ↗ is no change to the improved approval

14:18 ↗ conditions how does the site plan

14:25 ↗ encourage use of school buses rather

14:27 ↗ than private cars what connect with

14:29 ↗ school district do to encourage bus

14:30 ↗ ridership separation of bus loop from

14:33 ↗ vehicular traffic so we got them in

14:36 ↗ different levels pedestrian bridge leads

14:38 ↗ directly from the coverage shelter to

14:39 ↗ the school building and the service to

14:42 ↗ talas beyond the standard one-mile

14:44 ↗ radius so typically students that were

14:48 ↗ within one-mile radius would need to

14:49 ↗ walk but in for this school on this site

14:52 ↗ we will be providing bus service to

14:55 ↗ talas and there will be incentives for

14:57 ↗ students who ride the bus there was a

15:01 ↗ question about what should we provide

15:02 ↗ can we provide more information about

15:03 ↗ the proportion of bus ridership

15:05 ↗ anticipated for students coming from

15:07 ↗ Tallis the district shall maintain bus

15:10 ↗ service to the Tallis neighborhood to

15:11 ↗ serve the approximately 10% of students

15:13 ↗ coming from that community that's our

15:15 ↗ best understanding of the population

15:17 ↗ thus there's no change to the proposed

15:20 ↗ approval conditions

15:25 ↗ emergency and weather concerns what is

15:28 ↗ the building evacuation plan so the

15:31 ↗ yellow highlight across the elevation of

15:34 ↗ the building indicates where the third

15:36 ↗ floor is which is directly accessible

15:39 ↗ off of the entry Drive area so even

15:45 ↗ though it's a five storey building

15:46 ↗ you're going to stories there's my mouse

15:50 ↗ there's two stories above that yellow

15:53 ↗ line and then two stories below so we

15:55 ↗ basically set the building into the

15:57 ↗ grade to allow for ease of evacuation

16:01 ↗ the sequal school district is also

16:04 ↗ developing evacuation routes with East

16:06 ↗ Side Fire and Rescue question on how

16:10 ↗ would we be transporting students to SR

16:12 ↗ 900 work during inclement weather how

16:15 ↗ and where will students be transported

16:17 ↗ to and from school during snow and icy

16:19 ↗ conditions ISD has several schools

16:23 ↗ located on hills and has established a

16:25 ↗ monitoring policy for inclement weather

16:26 ↗ thus there's no change to the proposed

16:29 ↗ approval conditions there were some

16:35 ↗ questions at the last meeting about

16:36 ↗ whether or not a second exit from the

16:40 ↗ talus community was possible or

16:42 ↗ considered and regardless of this

16:46 ↗ project the city did look at the

16:48 ↗ potential to to make a second exit

16:52 ↗ through the bergsma property but that

16:54 ↗ was decided to be designated as open

16:57 ↗ space which meant that the only existing

17:01 ↗ second access is a limited use access

17:03 ↗ james bush road called james bush road

17:06 ↗ which is not open for normal use but can

17:10 ↗ be used used in an emergency and for the

17:14 ↗ school project in particular is d looked

17:17 ↗ at the potential of adding a second

17:19 ↗ access point directly onto sr 900 but

17:23 ↗ the topography of the area and the

17:25 ↗ location of the site precluded that it's

17:28 ↗ not actually adjacent to

17:31 ↗ and it was impossible to get the

17:33 ↗ easements needed to make that connection

17:38 ↗ right so here's the James Bush Road I

17:40 ↗ mentioned the emergency exit possibility

17:44 ↗ another possible scenario if there were

17:47 ↗ an emergency where a large amount of

17:52 ↗ people our students needed to be

17:53 ↗ evacuated the city could have the police

17:56 ↗ department change talis drive to one way

17:59 ↗ out to facilitate quicker moving of

18:02 ↗ people provide additional information on

18:12 ↗ the strategies ISD will use to manage

18:14 ↗ events where parking is insufficient to

18:16 ↗ meet demand

18:17 ↗ how will negative impacts to neighboring

18:19 ↗ streets be avoided so the drivers will

18:22 ↗ be required to request a parking pass

18:24 ↗ for events with potential for parking

18:26 ↗ over spill they'll be up to one hundred

18:28 ↗ and sixty two onsite passes that may be

18:31 ↗ issued all others will be issued offsite

18:34 ↗ passes with designated shuttle service

18:36 ↗ to the school site additional strategies

18:39 ↗ are under consideration so there's no

18:41 ↗ change the proposed approval conditions

18:47 ↗ which other schools have used shuttle

18:49 ↗ service and how has it worked for them

18:51 ↗ can parking be allowed on the field most

18:54 ↗ ISD schools have used an occasional

18:56 ↗ shuttle service with success and parking

18:59 ↗ on the field was considered but it was

19:01 ↗ deemed infeasible can special events

19:05 ↗ like eighth-grade commencement be

19:06 ↗ shifted to after-school or evening hours

19:09 ↗ potentially each year the school

19:11 ↗ community decides what time to hold the

19:13 ↗ eighth grade commencement conclusion no

19:17 ↗ change to proposed approval conditions

19:21 ↗ special event parking strategies how and

19:24 ↗ when can the parking along the bus and

19:26 ↗ passenger loops be used for event

19:28 ↗ parking during evenings and weekends

19:31 ↗ outside of school operating hours

19:33 ↗ they'll be able to use that area so just

19:35 ↗ to remind everyone these the yellow box

19:38 ↗ are the temporary spaces that we're

19:40 ↗ talking about

19:42 ↗ conclusion no changed proposed approval

19:45 ↗ conditions as referenced in condition

19:48 ↗ number 7

19:55 ↗ in response to a commissioners comment

19:57 ↗ we've revised condition 20 to add a

20:01 ↗ reporting requirement and to require

20:05 ↗ that the parking management plan the

20:07 ↗ approved with the building permit not

20:09 ↗ later on at the certificate of occupancy

20:11 ↗ time how will students be prevented from

20:20 ↗ throwing things off of the pedestrian

20:23 ↗ bridge when students cross the bridge

20:25 ↗ during wet or icy condition conditions

20:27 ↗ how far how well their safety be ensured

20:29 ↗ will it be covered if it isn't covered

20:32 ↗ with the slope cause problems provide

20:35 ↗ more information about the bridge so the

20:38 ↗ bridge that we're talking about just to

20:39 ↗ make sure everybody's looking in the

20:40 ↗ same place will be reviewed 488

20:43 ↗ compliance during construction permit

20:45 ↗ review the bridge will be treated like

20:47 ↗ other sidewalks on the school site

20:49 ↗ including de-icing walking surfaces and

20:52 ↗ a camera will monitor activities on the

20:56 ↗ bridge there is a covered bus shelter at

20:59 ↗ this end of the bridge that the school

21:01 ↗ will have the ability to secure access

21:04 ↗ onto the bridge

21:09 ↗ is it considered a skybridge Persei DDS

21:13 ↗ standards so the central standards do

21:19 ↗ have a definition for skybridge and they

21:21 ↗ also have a definition for a pedestrian

21:23 ↗ bridge and when we read both of those it

21:26 ↗ was pretty clear that this is a

21:27 ↗ pedestrian bridge not a sky bridge in an

21:30 ↗ in pedestrian bridge that is defined as

21:33 ↗ an open-air structure that potentially

21:35 ↗ could incorporate weather protection at

21:37 ↗ least one level above the street

21:39 ↗ pedestrian bridges function as an aerial

21:41 ↗ crosswalk so although weather protection

21:45 ↗ could be incorporated it's not required

21:48 ↗ of a pedestrian bridge and the standards

21:53 ↗ for a sky bridge don't apply here

21:59 ↗ loading service area please provide more

22:02 ↗ information on the service loading dock

22:04 ↗ area what will ensure safety and an

22:06 ↗ attractive pedestrian realm what kind of

22:09 ↗ doors will be used is the walk narrowed

22:12 ↗ along the loading area I'm getting my

22:16 ↗ arrow here ok a rollup door rolling gate

22:18 ↗ or similar will be added to enclose the

22:20 ↗ service area along the sidewalk the

22:23 ↗ sidewalk will be differentiated from the

22:25 ↗ service yard from the service yard

22:29 ↗ paving all along this edge here so

22:30 ↗ that's what that striping indicates and

22:32 ↗ the sidewalk is 6 feet wide it does not

22:35 ↗ narrow in this area so it's the same

22:37 ↗ width here as it continues around to the

22:39 ↗ entry Plaza screening is added to the

22:42 ↗ north wall to provide visibility and

22:45 ↗ you'll see that when we look at the

22:48 ↗ building design

22:51 ↗ loading service area please specify the

22:54 ↗ timing of deliveries during peak pick-up

22:56 ↗ and drop-off times deliveries are to be

22:58 ↗ scheduled so as not to occur

23:00 ↗ approximately 15 minutes before the

23:02 ↗ morning drop-off or 30 minutes after the

23:05 ↗ morning drop-off and 30 minutes before

23:07 ↗ the afternoon pickup in 15 minutes after

23:10 ↗ the afternoon pickup it's the staff you

23:14 ↗ want to sure so we're still reviewing

23:17 ↗ the specifics of the loading area

23:20 ↗ we've we're happy to see the change in

23:23 ↗ moving the door further out so that it's

23:25 ↗ closer to the sidewalk to cover and

23:28 ↗ shield more of that area so at the

23:32 ↗ conceptual level we felt like it was

23:34 ↗ appropriate to move forward and we'll

23:35 ↗ continue working with the construction

23:37 ↗ permits I'm getting the details hammered

23:39 ↗ in sure so just again to reiterate the

23:47 ↗ difference in roles between the

23:49 ↗ architectural review committee at Dallas

23:51 ↗ and the city and the development

23:52 ↗ Commission in reviewing the building

23:55 ↗ design the AR see it's their purview to

23:58 ↗ review anything having to do with

24:00 ↗ aesthetics materials choices colors

24:02 ↗ building styles and sight features such

24:05 ↗ as fences and railings as well as

24:08 ↗ landscaping and specifically one of the

24:13 ↗ commissioners asked about whose purview

24:17 ↗ roof modulation and walls would or

24:20 ↗ building walls and roof lines would be

24:21 ↗ and the AR si has the authority to

24:26 ↗ request changes or approve roof lines

24:29 ↗ and shapes of walls the city would look

24:32 ↗ at structural considerations for the

24:35 ↗ walls and wall height as well as wall

24:37 ↗ screening and whereas the the AR see can

24:43 ↗ select a specific design approach the

24:46 ↗ city still has the overall approval for

24:48 ↗ the building the structural design and

24:50 ↗ the and the building permit the building

24:53 ↗ code elements

25:01 ↗ so how much weather protection will be

25:03 ↗ provided at the entries to the school

25:05 ↗ will bicycle parking be covered so

25:08 ↗ they'll be a large canopy protecting the

25:10 ↗ entrance to the school building and

25:11 ↗ they'll be covered waiting area near the

25:13 ↗ entrance bicycle parking will be located

25:16 ↗ in the two-story parking garage and it

25:18 ↗ will be fully covered so there's no

25:21 ↗ change to the proposed approval

25:22 ↗ conditions

25:26 ↗ so we were asked a few questions about

25:28 ↗ building design given the prominent

25:31 ↗ position at the entrance to the Tallis

25:33 ↗ community how will the school enhance

25:36 ↗ the Gateway so as we remember the

25:38 ↗ fountain is kind of hard to see but it's

25:41 ↗ off to the left here and so we've got

25:43 ↗ four images that show in the wintertime

25:45 ↗ so the trees are not foliated just

25:49 ↗ showing how the evergreens evolve over

25:51 ↗ time so here's before the planting

25:55 ↗ installation and our middle schools off

25:58 ↗ to the right here and then we have our

26:00 ↗ anticipated expression of that planting

26:03 ↗ at one year and then what is that

26:06 ↗ planting going to look like at five

26:08 ↗ years and then at ten

26:14 ↗ and then thinking about the experience

26:18 ↗ along talis drive again in the

26:20 ↗ wintertime just showing what that's

26:24 ↗ before the planting installation begins

26:27 ↗ you can see the planting F at one year

26:31 ↗ and then five years in and then

26:36 ↗ approximately what it look like at ten

26:38 ↗ years the cars never change

26:43 ↗ next item we wanted to follow up on was

26:46 ↗ what is the what could the blank wall

26:49 ↗ treatment what would that look like the

26:51 ↗ blank wall that we're talking about on

26:53 ↗ the North East elevation was identified

26:55 ↗ with this grey area right here within

26:58 ↗ this red box we looked at a proposal

27:03 ↗ adding some windows and some of the the

27:06 ↗ would like paneling along in between

27:09 ↗ those windows extending the gray siding

27:11 ↗ and then we're also looking at an

27:15 ↗ evolution of that idea of having that

27:17 ↗ gray siding but actually bringing the

27:19 ↗ light gray siding around which is our

27:22 ↗ current proposal for that blank wall

27:24 ↗ treatment

27:26 ↗ just to show you our evolution of

27:28 ↗ thinking the other blank wall treatment

27:33 ↗ that we were looking at opportunities

27:36 ↗ for was actually just below that covered

27:40 ↗ or sorry not the covered walkway we've

27:42 ↗ got our covered bus shelter here in our

27:44 ↗ pedestrian bridge and then the wall that

27:47 ↗ was screening the area where the

27:49 ↗ dumpsters and the service trucks might

27:50 ↗ be parked and so what we're proposing is

27:54 ↗ to add some metal mesh screening and

27:56 ↗ reducing the height of that wall to

27:59 ↗ break down the expression of that blank

28:02 ↗ wall

28:04 ↗ and the last blank while I wanted to

28:08 ↗ touch on was the concrete wall just

28:11 ↗ below the doors coming out of the

28:13 ↗ gymnasium a to the field area its

28:16 ↗ identified within this red square and

28:17 ↗ we're proposing an opportunity for some

28:21 ↗ wall treatment there once the school is

28:23 ↗ named I can see it being the school name

28:25 ↗ not just Issaquah question about

28:32 ↗ environmental components and sustainable

28:35 ↗ attributes of the building what

28:37 ↗ sustainability measures will ISD

28:39 ↗ undertake to reduce the energy use in

28:42 ↗ our carbon footprint for this project we

28:45 ↗ are required to be compliant with the

28:47 ↗ Washington sustainable schools protocol

28:49 ↗ will be providing quality day lighting

28:52 ↗ at using LED lighting in the building

28:56 ↗ will have operable windows we have a

28:58 ↗ very efficient mechanical system we're

29:00 ↗ doing low-flow plumbing fixtures to

29:03 ↗ reduce our water usage we're taking care

29:06 ↗ to specify recycled materials and using

29:08 ↗ native landscaping is there an

29:12 ↗ opportunity to install solar panels

29:14 ↗ solar panels will not be installed on

29:16 ↗ this project

29:17 ↗ I lost my slide here solar panels will

29:22 ↗ not be installed but ISD participates in

29:24 ↗ PSC's green direct program to purchase a

29:26 ↗ hundred percent renewable electricity

29:28 ↗ from solar and wind farms conclusion is

29:32 ↗ no change to proposed approval

29:34 ↗ conditions

29:37 ↗ next question was about logistics and

29:39 ↗ whether any portable class where

29:41 ↗ classrooms were proposed no while a

29:45 ↗ possible location for building expansion

29:47 ↗ has been identified further review would

29:49 ↗ be required if ISD decided to pursue

29:52 ↗ expansion other question was what are

29:56 ↗ the arrival and dismissal times typical

29:58 ↗ ISD schedule for all Middle School's in

30:01 ↗ 2019 2020 school year are listed below

30:05 ↗ with our typical bus arrival time on

30:08 ↗ Monday Tuesday Thursday and Friday being

30:10 ↗ slightly different than on Wednesday

30:12 ↗ where we have a late start the start

30:14 ↗ times at 8:10 and 10:20 respectively and

30:18 ↗ dismissal at 2:35 and 3:30 buses are

30:22 ↗ typically on the road shortly after

30:24 ↗ around 242 and 337 how and when can the

30:32 ↗ public use the track and field area so

30:34 ↗ the field will be fenced and gated the

30:37 ↗ neighborhood residents can request a

30:39 ↗ keycard access for using the site during

30:41 ↗ daylight non-school hours when there are

30:44 ↗ not other activities scheduled the track

30:47 ↗ and field can also be rented out in

30:49 ↗ which case renters have precedence over

30:51 ↗ other users conclusion is no change to

30:55 ↗ the proposed approval conditions

31:00 ↗ please provide more information on the

31:02 ↗ long-term landscape maintenance plan is

31:04 ↗ d employees full-time maintenance staff

31:06 ↗ there's a two-year plant establishment

31:08 ↗ service that'll come with the new

31:10 ↗ building and they'll work with the

31:12 ↗ community to meet their expectations

31:14 ↗ well the island or the pork chop and

31:17 ↗ tree be landscaped which I realize the

31:19 ↗ term maybe not everybody knew but it's

31:21 ↗ this area right here yes with review by

31:24 ↗ the city and the AR C plantings will

31:26 ↗ work within sight distance limitations

31:29 ↗ and there is no change to the proposed

31:32 ↗ approval conditions

31:37 ↗ what is the roof treatment of the garage

31:40 ↗ what is the vertical side treatment well

31:42 ↗ headlights be addressed so we will have

31:45 ↗ landscape planters and architectural

31:46 ↗ trellis on the rooftop the perimeter of

31:49 ↗ the parking garage will be heavily

31:51 ↗ landscaped and the vertical side

31:54 ↗ treatment is masonry and metal screening

31:56 ↗ headlights will be concealed with an

31:59 ↗ opaque barrier the conclusion was

32:02 ↗ additional materials appear to

32:03 ↗ demonstrate compliance with screening

32:05 ↗ requirements and compliance with

32:06 ↗ regulations will be reviewed with our

32:08 ↗ construction permits

32:13 ↗ lighting please provide additional

32:15 ↗ information on potential impacts of the

32:18 ↗ track-and-field lighting to off-site

32:19 ↗ properties areas above or level with the

32:23 ↗ field are they unlikely to are unlikely

32:25 ↗ to experience glare lights and their

32:28 ↗ visors will be adjusted if areas below

32:30 ↗ the field experience glare lights can be

32:32 ↗ dimmed to 25% during community events so

32:36 ↗ there's a couple diagrams that that

32:38 ↗ speak to that so additional information

32:45 ↗ on potential impacts of the

32:46 ↗ track-and-field lighting to the off-site

32:47 ↗ properties so one thing we wanted to

32:53 ↗ make sure to address is that the field

32:56 ↗ lighting can be adjusted and so we are

32:59 ↗ proposing a new condition that that the

33:03 ↗ city and the school district will work

33:05 ↗ together to make sure that one when the

33:07 ↗ lights are installed that any

33:09 ↗ adjustments that are needed to prevent

33:11 ↗ impact so drivers will be made after

33:14 ↗ installation based on an on a work with

33:17 ↗ one of the installers representatives

33:20 ↗ and then we also wanted to request a

33:23 ↗ revision to the condition on the timing

33:27 ↗ of lighting the Parks Department

33:29 ↗ contacted DSD and asked if we could

33:32 ↗ possibly move the lighting a bit later

33:35 ↗ in order to allow two rotations of their

33:39 ↗ field use after the school hours are

33:41 ↗ done so their typical blocks of time I

33:45 ↗ think are about two hours so pushing it

33:47 ↗ back to 9:15 would allow two different

33:50 ↗ users to use the field back-to-back on a

33:53 ↗ given night and and also to add an

33:58 ↗ exception for community events like the

34:02 ↗ Relay for Life that go into late hours

34:04 ↗ that the field could be lit if the

34:08 ↗ lighting is dimmed down to very low

34:10 ↗ levels just in order to provide safety

34:13 ↗ but not the high level that you would

34:15 ↗ need for visibility of a sporting event

34:20 ↗ I'll do this one again so there's a

34:22 ↗ question about how the establishment of

34:24 ↗ a separate tract for the trail would

34:26 ↗ help the project meet the FA our

34:28 ↗ requirements essentially we would be

34:32 ↗ proposing a new parcel that would that

34:36 ↗ would include all of the all of the

34:39 ↗ trail and landscaping around it and the

34:42 ↗ grading needed to make that happen and

34:44 ↗ that would not be included in the parcel

34:46 ↗ for the school project because the trail

34:48 ↗ parcel would be serving more of a public

34:51 ↗ service in a public good

34:53 ↗ as a community facility and that helps

34:56 ↗ the that helps to really focus in on the

34:59 ↗ amount of land being used by the

35:02 ↗ proposed project which is the intent of

35:06 ↗ how the FA our requirements were meant

35:08 ↗ to be applied

35:10 ↗ so this is the condition that there

35:16 ↗ requires establishing that separate

35:18 ↗ attractive land there was a question

35:26 ↗ about why is the trail connection from

35:28 ↗ the community trail into the site

35:30 ↗ through the loop rather than along the

35:32 ↗ edge so if we were to do it along the

35:36 ↗ edge which is the yellow line there's

35:38 ↗ insufficient space to accommodate the

35:40 ↗ sidewalk given the site topography and

35:42 ↗ required retaining walls the connection

35:45 ↗ through the drop-off loop is the most

35:47 ↗ direct way to connect the trail to the

35:48 ↗ field so that's highlighted in blue

35:50 ↗ there's no change to the approved

35:53 ↗ conditions there's a question about

35:57 ↗ signage and when signs would be reviewed

36:01 ↗ signage is typically done at the toward

36:04 ↗ the end of the permitting a project

36:07 ↗ and it'll be regulated from the central

36:09 ↗ standards chapter 9 and there will be

36:11 ↗ separate signed permits that the

36:13 ↗ applicant will request from the city

36:20 ↗ there was also a question about

36:22 ↗ construction management and any

36:23 ↗ additional details that we could provide

36:26 ↗ so ISD will develop a construction

36:29 ↗ management plan as part of the site work

36:30 ↗ and building permits for review and

36:32 ↗ approval by the city during construction

36:35 ↗ ISD will keep community informed through

36:38 ↗ signage and regular construction updates

36:41 ↗ construction hours will be Monday

36:43 ↗ through Friday 7 a.m. to 6 p.m. except

36:45 ↗ on holidays unless an expanded work

36:48 ↗ hours permit has been granted for

36:49 ↗ Saturday work all construction worker

36:53 ↗ parking material equipment lay down

36:55 ↗ areas will be on site throughout

36:57 ↗ construction so that's the end of our

37:03 ↗ presentation

37:04 ↗ we obviously planning staff is here

37:06 ↗ engineering staff is here and that both

37:08 ↗ the city and the applicants traffic

37:11 ↗ engineers are here so they are available

37:13 ↗ for your questions as well thank you

37:16 ↗ right so is that complete both the staff

37:19 ↗ and the applicants presentation great so

37:22 ↗ open up the meeting now to public

37:25 ↗ comment so if there's anybody here from

37:28 ↗ the public this evening that would like

37:29 ↗ to comment please come to the podium

37:31 ↗ state your name and address if you wish

37:34 ↗ and make your comments

37:38 ↗ anybody here this evening seeing none

37:44 ↗ oh there's wine my name is Mary Lynch

37:51 ↗ and I recite it to 6-9 own Northwest Oak

37:54 ↗ Crest Drive I don't know if you received

37:56 ↗ my public comments okay you got those

37:58 ↗ I'd be glad to you know address any of

38:01 ↗ those specifically I won't go over them

38:02 ↗ but I am a little bit concerned about

38:05 ↗ some of the statements made tonight as a

38:07 ↗ blanket statement and would like to see

38:09 ↗ some conditions as I said in my public

38:11 ↗ comments put on some of those conditions

38:14 ↗ also concerned about the unload and

38:17 ↗ loading of the buses and the fact that

38:19 ↗ it stated that the buses will be

38:21 ↗ staggering in I don't really see how

38:23 ↗ that's physically possible you know

38:25 ↗ given traffic and everything else just

38:27 ↗ stagger buses in to a site but then even

38:31 ↗ that being so said I don't see how the

38:34 ↗ math adds up on having the two rows of

38:37 ↗ buses in there to unload while you're

38:41 ↗ still have buses coming in and having

38:43 ↗ buses coming in and going out the same

38:46 ↗ close proximity of 33 feet I think is

38:49 ↗ not doable when you figure the size of a

38:52 ↗ bus and I gave you the dimensions on the

38:55 ↗ buses there thank you thank you

38:59 ↗ any other comments this evening seeing

39:06 ↗ none then we'll close the public comment

39:08 ↗ portion of the meeting open the meeting

39:11 ↗ now to Commissioners any questions that

39:13 ↗ you have for the applicant or staff yes

39:18 ↗ mr. chairman I was pleased to see the

39:21 ↗ new proposed conditions 42 and 43

39:24 ↗ regarding speed on Telus Drive that's

39:26 ↗ great I think those are effective

39:28 ↗ measures to deal with that I do have two

39:32 ↗ issues with this project first has to do

39:36 ↗ with the loading and service area last

39:39 ↗ meeting I believe you may recall the

39:41 ↗ Commissioner Morgan observed that

39:43 ↗ usually when proposals come before us

39:45 ↗ that area is toward the rear of the

39:47 ↗ building and Syd's in 11 dot

39:50 ↗ five also prefers areas of that kind to

39:54 ↗ be in the rear of the building it looks

39:57 ↗ as though now we have a new single

40:00 ↗ roll-up door proposed to shelter that

40:04 ↗ area and their questions about that both

40:07 ↗ structurally and in terms of how trucks

40:10 ↗ are going to turn in that area as well

40:13 ↗ on the north side wall it sounds as

40:15 ↗ though that wall has been opened and

40:19 ↗ some screening added there and it looks

40:21 ↗ as though neither the screening nor the

40:24 ↗ visibility for the drivers really its

40:26 ↗ optimum so my feeling is this is looks

40:30 ↗ kind of like still a work in progress

40:33 ↗ I guess my question is that early in the

40:36 ↗ design of this site and I guess this is

40:39 ↗ for the architect was the southeast

40:42 ↗ corner of the building considered for

40:44 ↗ this facility the access would be

40:47 ↗ through the emergency slash service road

40:49 ↗ to that and if that was considered why

40:52 ↗ wasn't that chosen as an option

40:59 ↗ thank you

41:01 ↗ yeah we looked at a variety of ways to

41:04 ↗ service this building and as we're

41:07 ↗ looking at locating service area not

41:09 ↗ only are we looking at getting trust

41:10 ↗ trucks in safely to service the building

41:13 ↗ and trash out but we're also looking at

41:16 ↗ what are the safe pathways for them on a

41:19 ↗ regular basis to be coming going on the

41:21 ↗ site in looking at the this side of the

41:26 ↗ building because the students will be

41:29 ↗ flowing on a regular basis from the

41:31 ↗ gymnasium out to the track we're very

41:34 ↗ limited in the areas in that for service

41:37 ↗ so if we look at the size of this

41:40 ↗ service area and as we keep in mind the

41:43 ↗ the turning radiuses that are required

41:46 ↗ for the truck there is not space for

41:49 ↗ that in this portion of the site but it

41:52 ↗ was considered it was just not feasible

41:55 ↗ so that is on level three of the

41:59 ↗ building correct the service area the

42:01 ↗ service area is at level three yes

42:03 ↗ if I look at the plan on level three

42:06 ↗ there I think there's an area back nad

42:08 ↗ building is called the platform yes

42:11 ↗ right is that a stage that is the stage

42:14 ↗ yet it's the stage in a choir classroom

42:16 ↗ mm-hmm so there was an idea of not

42:20 ↗ having a stage area located there but

42:23 ↗ maybe on the left side instead of that

42:25 ↗ service area redesigned this but I'm

42:30 ↗ looking at I see a potential area here

42:33 ↗ we've got 12 year old students and 12

42:35 ↗ ton garbage trucks in proximity you know

42:38 ↗ I'm trying to get a sense of how this is

42:40 ↗ a safe situation yes so the school

42:42 ↗ district and the the nice thing is the

42:44 ↗ school district has the ability to

42:46 ↗ control when those trucks are coming to

42:48 ↗ and from the site and I'm really very

42:51 ↗ there's my arrow and they are not

42:54 ↗ allowing students to be outside the

42:56 ↗ building once the school day has started

42:58 ↗ so the flow of students out side to the

43:01 ↗ field and to the covered play is all

43:03 ↗ going to be managed on this side of the

43:05 ↗ building so they're completely separated

43:07 ↗ from where those trucks will be when

43:09 ↗ they need to service the building the

43:11 ↗ platform area that you indicated over

43:13 ↗ here is actually two stories up from the

43:16 ↗ drive over on this side and so that's

43:20 ↗ why there wasn't it wasn't feasible to

43:22 ↗ consider putting it on this location and

43:24 ↗ the opposite side of the cafeteria

43:26 ↗ Commons is where our kitchen is which

43:28 ↗ wanted to be close to where the service

43:30 ↗ comes into the building so in trying to

43:33 ↗ address the needs to service the kitchen

43:36 ↗ as well as getting the trash out of the

43:38 ↗ building we really were limited on

43:41 ↗ options on where that could be okay so

43:42 ↗ that emergency service drive is really

43:45 ↗ on a lower level it's actually lower

43:48 ↗ than the gymnasium which is underneath

43:50 ↗ the cafeteria comments okay and I

43:52 ↗ noticed that the time for delivery in

43:59 ↗ that area a condition 18 suggests a

44:02 ↗ half-hour buffer and each side of the

44:04 ↗ start of day and the end of the Student

44:06 ↗ Activity that's been shortened to 15

44:08 ↗ minutes instead of half an hour versus

44:11 ↗ the condition suggestion so are we

44:14 ↗ saying that

44:15 ↗ no students at all would be prohibited

44:17 ↗ and would be allowed in that area during

44:19 ↗ that window yeah in other words

44:23 ↗ conditioned eighteens is suggesting half

44:26 ↗ an hour before drop-off time correct and

44:28 ↗ half an hour after and now it's 15

44:34 ↗ minutes right and that recommendation

44:36 ↗ came from our middle school team on what

44:39 ↗ they observe as far as how quickly

44:40 ↗ students exit and their sequence and

44:43 ↗ timing of when they arrived I don't know

44:46 ↗ if we need to elaborate further if you

44:48 ↗ want to state about the administration

44:50 ↗ of the building because that's really an

44:51 ↗ administration of the building question

44:53 ↗ yeah I guess I just like to clarify that

44:55 ↗ no students then are going to be moving

44:57 ↗ in that area according to building

45:00 ↗ policy during the time that we're having

45:02 ↗ deliveries going in and out of that

45:04 ↗ service area that is the intention is

45:07 ↗ that students will not be going through

45:09 ↗ pickup and drop off at the time that we

45:10 ↗ would have trucks coming to service that

45:12 ↗ area okay

45:13 ↗ okay okay thanks and my second issue if

45:17 ↗ I can just finish with this one is the

45:20 ↗ crossing of the passenger loop area down

45:23 ↗ there maybe this is a question for staff

45:26 ↗ because I understand that staff

45:28 ↗ suggested or requested this crossing

45:32 ↗ from the trail across the end of the

45:35 ↗ passenger loop correct and I guess that

45:39 ↗ looks like a very dangerous kind of

45:41 ↗ crossing hazardous crossing there I'm

45:43 ↗ seeing their cars coming around a corner

45:45 ↗ there and there may be I guess students

45:48 ↗ hustling across that little loop maybe

45:51 ↗ in inclement weather at a certain time

45:53 ↗ of day I guess I wonder it seems as

45:57 ↗ though there's no change at all to the

46:00 ↗ condition there so I'm wondering really

46:02 ↗ what the requirement for that crossing

46:04 ↗ is do we anticipate significant foot

46:08 ↗ traffic accessing the school threw that

46:10 ↗ off that trail my understanding is that

46:14 ↗ the trail access or the access from this

46:16 ↗ trail down to this crosswalk would be

46:18 ↗ those who want to access the field

46:19 ↗ outside of school hours it's not

46:21 ↗ anticipated that we're going to have a

46:23 ↗ large number of students that are using

46:25 ↗ the trail as an access way to the school

46:28 ↗ would that be outside of normal pick-up

46:31 ↗ and drop-off times when cars would be

46:33 ↗ using that balloon then yeah

46:34 ↗ track-and-field would not be available

46:36 ↗ for public access and less school and

46:39 ↗ school associated activities were not in

46:41 ↗ session or anything that was rented on

46:44 ↗ the site but for activities cars would

46:47 ↗ still be able to come down there and

46:48 ↗ park in that area right because is that

46:50 ↗ open or overflow parking during

46:53 ↗ non-school hours or was that I believe

46:56 ↗ ours with token in there so my

46:59 ↗ understanding would be that the loop

47:02 ↗ near where the arrow is shown on the

47:04 ↗ screen right now is not parking is just

47:08 ↗ the function of turning around I I think

47:14 ↗ that the right so the striped stalls

47:18 ↗ where the arrow is right now there would

47:20 ↗ be parking there but not around the

47:26 ↗ actual loop right I would still be

47:28 ↗ coming in there to access those spaces

47:30 ↗ so yes and so I think it would be

47:32 ↗ necessary as we review the actual

47:37 ↗ landscape plan to look at good sight

47:41 ↗ lines some of those trees may not sorry

47:45 ↗ sorry I'm just not sure of that loop and

47:54 ↗ the pedestrian oh yeah yes the one we

47:57 ↗ made um

47:59 ↗ just cuz I think it'll be easier if we

48:01 ↗ can see it more zoomed in

48:09 ↗ it's down yeah yeah so part of the I

48:24 ↗ mean yes our first choice was the yellow

48:26 ↗ path but because the of the grades and

48:31 ↗ the wall and the existing stairs there

48:34 ↗ was not enough room to get a path and

48:36 ↗ fall protection and support along that

48:40 ↗ edge the turquoise path or blue path is

48:45 ↗ at right angles and we will ensure that

48:49 ↗ the sight lines from a cart entering the

48:53 ↗ loop are clear for seeing anyone who's

48:58 ↗ crossing the concern you raised I think

49:02 ↗ it is in fact true that students are

49:05 ↗ very unlikely to be using this path to

49:09 ↗ access the fields or to more importantly

49:12 ↗ access the school in the morning just

49:15 ↗ because it's so far out of the way now

49:17 ↗ these are middle schoolers but it's so

49:20 ↗ hard to say what choices they may make

49:22 ↗ but I think that they're going to want

49:25 ↗ the most direct path which is going to

49:27 ↗ be from Tallis Drive or through the bus

49:32 ↗ loop over the skybridge right so our

49:35 ↗ feeling then is that it's still

49:37 ↗ necessary to have that access at all I

49:39 ↗ think our concern was that consistent

49:43 ↗ with code some kind of connection from

49:46 ↗ that community trail into the site was

49:49 ↗ necessary so we were trying to find a

49:52 ↗ way to do it that would provide good

49:56 ↗ sight lines and connection I think if we

50:00 ↗ eliminated the path we might have people

50:03 ↗ bushwhacking their own Trail that may

50:05 ↗ not have the kinds of sight lines we

50:07 ↗ that it would need to have okay I wonder

50:10 ↗ if we could consider something like a

50:12 ↗ push button to cross or something like

50:14 ↗ that and maybe there are flashing lights

50:16 ↗ there or something I don't know it just

50:17 ↗ strikes me as you know a curious

50:19 ↗ potentially hazardous

50:21 ↗ part of an otherwise very safe and

50:23 ↗ professional design so I agree with that

50:28 ↗ comment I think that the roundabout is a

50:30 ↗ concern for me as well even a speed bump

50:32 ↗ - as you approach that turn might be

50:35 ↗ something worth exploring

50:37 ↗ but again the previous comment about

50:39 ↗ landscaping - that's a that's gonna make

50:41 ↗ a play a big factor as well making sure

50:42 ↗ that we don't play anything too high to

50:45 ↗ not obstruct that that sight line Eddy

50:49 ↗ curiosity the the path as you're teeing

50:54 ↗ off and entering the blue is there a

50:57 ↗ reason why that connection was not

50:59 ↗ located further west so that it's more

51:02 ↗ of a straight line is it because of

51:05 ↗ grades so that you're crossing more at a

51:08 ↗ better line of sight I should say verse

51:11 ↗ kind of that odd angle yeah we were

51:14 ↗ trying to minimize the amount of area

51:17 ↗ that you were crossing um where vehicles

51:19 ↗ were and - as we're trying to maximize

51:23 ↗ parking on the site we wanted to have

51:26 ↗ overlap with the ad a access area for

51:30 ↗ that parking as well as right eyes yeah

51:32 ↗ yes okay typically you like those things

51:35 ↗ that right angles I mean partly I think

51:39 ↗ for the point that Rebecca makes that

51:41 ↗ it's shorter I don't know if our

51:45 ↗ engineers want to speak

51:59 ↗ good evening my name is John Paschal I'm

52:03 ↗ with a consultant called the Transpo

52:05 ↗ group and we're here representing the

52:06 ↗ city of Vista qua and we've been we've

52:08 ↗ been reviewing and working on behalf of

52:11 ↗ the city and reviewing the design of the

52:12 ↗ traffic and transportation elements in

52:15 ↗ regards to this particular crossing

52:19 ↗ location I'd say that you know I think

52:23 ↗ as we all recognize that it might not be

52:26 ↗ ideal in terms of how you you cross I

52:29 ↗ think the things that we look at are

52:31 ↗ really the conditions and the

52:33 ↗ circumstances and what we've come to

52:37 ↗ understand is really this is going to be

52:39 ↗ utilized during those pick-up and

52:40 ↗ drop-off timeframes in terms of the

52:43 ↗ vehicle operation but the pedestrian

52:46 ↗ activity is not necessarily going to be

52:47 ↗ during those same time frames and

52:49 ↗ furthermore we want to avoid introducing

52:54 ↗ facilities and elements that might

52:57 ↗ contradict or not be consistent with

53:00 ↗ that design of it so you know adding

53:03 ↗ things such as flashers and other more

53:06 ↗ proactive warning devices we want to be

53:10 ↗ very careful about that

53:12 ↗ we want to make sure that those those

53:14 ↗ types of things are introduced in areas

53:16 ↗ where they really are warranted and

53:18 ↗ needed we don't want to we don't want to

53:22 ↗ get into this situation where it's an

53:24 ↗ expectation that every time there is a

53:26 ↗ crosswalk or something that that those

53:28 ↗ type of things are needed so that's

53:31 ↗ that's I think from a city perspective

53:32 ↗ we just want to be consistent in how

53:34 ↗ we're going about recommending different

53:37 ↗ types of pedestrian crossing devices

53:41 ↗ thank you appreciate the clarification

53:44 ↗ there are other questions from

53:47 ↗ commissioners

53:51 ↗ back to the question for the applicant

53:52 ↗ back to that loading area can you please

53:57 ↗ clarify what kind of trucks will be

53:59 ↗ going through that is are we talking

54:00 ↗ trash like cafeteria delivery

54:03 ↗ are we talking short shorter trucks not

54:06 ↗ the not the long trailer trucks through

54:10 ↗ that area or the deliveries yeah I might

54:14 ↗ need your help in telling me the exact

54:16 ↗ size of the trucks but there will be

54:17 ↗ trash trucks that were contested food

54:20 ↗ delivery vehicles obviously at the

54:23 ↗ beginning of the school year there tends

54:25 ↗ to be more paper products delivered but

54:27 ↗ that tends to be when we're loading the

54:28 ↗ building before students are on site

54:30 ↗ maybe Tom can elaborate Tom Mullins with

54:34 ↗ the school district mainly be trash

54:36 ↗ trucks garbage trucks in district box

54:38 ↗ vans that it won't be tractor trailers I

54:42 ↗ don't think tractor trailers would want

54:44 ↗ to get caught in that site and that'll

54:46 ↗ be warned they'll be signed yeah okay

54:49 ↗ thank you just a question about back to

54:54 ↗ the design of the loading dock here you

54:56 ↗ said you're adding some additional kind

55:00 ↗ of mesh to the wall condition is that is

55:03 ↗ that you know transparent or open or is

55:07 ↗ it is it still solid condition to

55:09 ↗ contain odors and etc so we're the

55:17 ↗ approach to breaking down that wall

55:21 ↗ let's see if I get my arrow back here

55:23 ↗ this wall here is very similar to the

55:26 ↗ design of the two-story parking garage

55:28 ↗ where we have introduced wire mesh and

55:31 ↗ in that area it will allow some

55:33 ↗ visibility but it does obstruct it it's

55:36 ↗ a tighter weave than what you would see

55:39 ↗ with a chain-link I don't know the exact

55:41 ↗ opacity of that but it will allow views

55:44 ↗ I think it's important to keep in mind

55:47 ↗ that the this area where the dumpsters

55:51 ↗ are is actually backed under cover and

55:55 ↗ so which is behind the solid wall so

55:58 ↗ that area that we've talked about

56:00 ↗ introducing that

56:01 ↗ is to break down this solid wall that we

56:04 ↗ were showing as not only part of the

56:06 ↗ building expression but also to conceal

56:08 ↗ if trucks were in that area thank you I

56:14 ↗ had a question about this special event

56:17 ↗ parking strategies which I think are are

56:20 ↗ great and I'm glad they're being

56:22 ↗ implemented sooner but the question that

56:26 ↗ comes up for me is so if this is a

56:29 ↗ shared field in the community can also

56:31 ↗ use this field at certain times I would

56:33 ↗ imagine there's special events that

56:34 ↗ would be scheduled and held there so do

56:37 ↗ these special event policies apply to

56:39 ↗ community or privately organized events

56:42 ↗ what what are the plans for you know 150

56:45 ↗ cars pouring into the neighborhood or

56:49 ↗ something like that how do you how do

56:51 ↗ you handle that and is it just through

56:53 ↗ parking and special passes and so when

56:57 ↗ you lease the field area they're

56:59 ↗ definitely the the school district has

57:01 ↗ policies around the rental of their

57:04 ↗ facilities the bus area that we've

57:06 ↗ identified for event parking another way

57:11 ↗ to think of it is when it's pick-up and

57:13 ↗ drop-off time and this is designated for

57:15 ↗ school use there's no parking but when

57:17 ↗ that's not occurring which is likely to

57:19 ↗ coincide when you would want to be using

57:21 ↗ the if you had rented the field that

57:23 ↗ would not be outside of school hours

57:24 ↗ that parking would be available okay by

57:28 ↗ the same methods passes or the parking

57:33 ↗ area is not secure the parking area is

57:35 ↗ not secured with a gate or anything so

57:38 ↗ it would be managed through signage so

57:41 ↗ how would you limit the amount of of

57:44 ↗ cars that reasonably come to one of

57:46 ↗ these events

57:50 ↗ good evening my name is Jason Morris I'm

57:52 ↗ the exact director of middle schools for

57:54 ↗ the Issaquah School District I think the

57:56 ↗ the quickest answer to that question is

57:58 ↗ by managing the outside users that are

58:02 ↗ allowed to book the field and keeping

58:06 ↗ track or at least trying to as closely

58:09 ↗ quantify the size of the events of the

58:12 ↗ intended user with the size of the

58:14 ↗ facility so what I'm hearing is possibly

58:17 ↗ input on an event that could be bigger

58:20 ↗ than the facility would allow and that

58:23 ↗ would be incumbent upon the district

58:24 ↗ then to not book events that are going

58:27 ↗ to draw that many users to the field so

58:32 ↗ I think it's more about connecting the

58:35 ↗ right size of events with the facility

58:37 ↗ at hand and perhaps an event that's much

58:39 ↗ larger would be better suited at a high

58:41 ↗ school field that can that can capacity

58:44 ↗ more more parking spaces okay that's

58:47 ↗ that's exactly what I wanted a thank you

58:51 ↗ there are questions for the loading dock

58:55 ↗ area would something like at a parking

58:58 ↗ garage and the city when you're leaving

58:59 ↗ and there's a flashing light or says car

59:02 ↗ leaving or something would something

59:03 ↗ like that is there that ever done I have

59:09 ↗ not seen it done at a school but I mean

59:11 ↗ if there is a challenge with conflicting

59:14 ↗ use I think that we can add it to our

59:16 ↗ list of items that we look to address it

59:22 ↗ what's uh what's dictating that the size

59:25 ↗ of that garage door seems awfully big

59:28 ↗ when I'm looking at an elevation yeah so

59:33 ↗ we want to make sure that we can service

59:35 ↗ the trucks and the loading that needs to

59:38 ↗ occur in that area and so in order for

59:41 ↗ them to be able to maneuver for the

59:43 ↗ different functions so there will be

59:45 ↗ dumpsters they'll be recycling and

59:47 ↗ they'll be next to each other

59:49 ↗ and so they need to get to the

59:50 ↗ appropriate area and there's a loading

59:52 ↗ dock and so that width allows the

59:55 ↗ vehicle to get to where they need to

59:56 ↗ okay so the bins aren't being rolled out

59:58 ↗ the trunks are actually going partially

1:00:00 ↗ in the structure yes so the bins are

1:00:03 ↗ staying or staying under cover so they

1:00:07 ↗ are under this area right here and they

1:00:11 ↗ are not expected to move from there yeah

1:00:13 ↗ okay thank you I have a couple of

1:00:19 ↗ questions first related to the lighting

1:00:21 ↗ of the field and the change in hours did

1:00:27 ↗ you describe similarities to other

1:00:29 ↗ schools I mean is that is that the

1:00:31 ↗ standard of practice do we have other

1:00:33 ↗ schools middle schools with lighted

1:00:34 ↗ fields that are you know using the

1:00:38 ↗ similar kind of time frame talking about

1:00:41 ↗ the lighting yeah so this lighting was a

1:00:43 ↗ request from the parks department to

1:00:45 ↗ extend that so I don't know if it's been

1:00:46 ↗ a request we've addressed on other

1:00:48 ↗ fields when we did the middle school

1:00:51 ↗ permit we at 8 o'clock ice I think that

1:00:59 ↗ was at the request of the Commission

1:01:01 ↗ mm-hmm

1:01:02 ↗ I believe the Parks Department like

1:01:06 ↗ their fields at it Highlands that

1:01:10 ↗ they manage I think they go later they

1:01:12 ↗ go at least till nine if not ten so I

1:01:15 ↗ think that what's being requested for

1:01:17 ↗ this location is consistent with or a

1:01:21 ↗ little more conservative than what the

1:01:23 ↗ parts

1:01:27 ↗ question about some of the conditions

1:01:33 ↗ real quick some clarifications condition

1:01:39 ↗ number 20 and so if you don't need to

1:01:47 ↗ get the condition language in front of

1:01:49 ↗ you so this was one of the conditions

1:01:55 ↗ that was modified but there's and maybe

1:01:57 ↗ it's a typo but if you open the good

1:02:01 ↗ condition it looks like it's the second

1:02:04 ↗ to the last sentence usually the number

1:02:06 ↗ again

1:02:06 ↗ condition number 20 you're on 28 of 31

1:02:17 ↗ so where it starts as ongoing almost at

1:02:25 ↗ the bottom eight second to last and just

1:02:28 ↗ double checking what the original one

1:02:29 ↗ was to see if yeah see right where the

1:02:33 ↗ cursor is yeah now I don't know you'll

1:02:36 ↗ need to help me understand what was what

1:02:39 ↗ the wording is there I'm not sure what

1:02:41 ↗ that meaning is so what the original

1:02:43 ↗ condition said well I'm I I can't read

1:02:49 ↗ both at the same time so what it

1:02:50 ↗ originally said was as an ongoing

1:02:52 ↗ condition of operation okay mama

1:02:55 ↗ the school would be required to use okay

1:03:00 ↗ so a word was dropped condition that

1:03:02 ↗ condition became yes yes we can change

1:03:05 ↗ that

1:03:06 ↗ okay so a condition of operation okay

1:03:09 ↗ great so that's just the type of

1:03:10 ↗ something

1:03:11 ↗ well it just was it so I love copying

1:03:13 ↗ yeah so I just want to make sure that

1:03:15 ↗ language was straight in the record also

1:03:19 ↗ a similar on condition 33

1:03:28 ↗ in the first sentence first line it's a

1:03:31 ↗ typo but it has meaning if we print it

1:03:36 ↗ the way it is at least in the record in

1:03:38 ↗ the document I have 33 it says generator

1:03:43 ↗ during on emergency it should say

1:03:45 ↗ non-emergency I believe was demeaning

1:03:47 ↗ there that was in the original condition

1:03:53 ↗ so we'll fix that also on one of the new

1:03:59 ↗ on the new condition number 43 again a

1:04:03 ↗ language question here trying to

1:04:07 ↗ understand the meaning of the last

1:04:08 ↗ sentence of that condition a letter

1:04:13 ↗ agreement or addition on the site where

1:04:16 ↗ condition probably should say a letter

1:04:19 ↗ of agreement approval condition on the

1:04:23 ↗ site work permit will establish the

1:04:27 ↗ parameters for this side work permit

1:04:30 ↗ that's that yeah let me see a level of

1:04:35 ↗ agreement or approval condition on the

1:04:38 ↗ site work permit will establish the

1:04:40 ↗ parameters for this okay so that would

1:04:42 ↗ be clarification provided at permit

1:04:44 ↗ issuance for that location of this

1:04:46 ↗ condition right I think what we want is

1:04:49 ↗ to have not just the land use condition

1:04:54 ↗ but to work out some further details in

1:04:57 ↗ conjunction in the city and the district

1:05:02 ↗ about how this would be implemented

1:05:06 ↗ we've had discussions I think there is

1:05:09 ↗ joint agreement but we just like to

1:05:11 ↗ memorialize that in an agreement and

1:05:13 ↗ we're just establishing the timing and

1:05:15 ↗ commitment right because in the CEPA

1:05:19 ↗ document that was provided by the

1:05:20 ↗ district they make some statements in

1:05:24 ↗ there that only negotiate it looks like

1:05:27 ↗ including a specific amount of money or

1:05:29 ↗ not to exceed

1:05:32 ↗ um we we that's those were the kinds of

1:05:36 ↗ things that we were thinking would be in

1:05:37 ↗ the letter agreement of and at the time

1:05:40 ↗ that we drafted this condition see

1:05:42 ↗ behind right so so that that language

1:05:46 ↗ allows for continued negotiation on some

1:05:49 ↗ of the details of the mitigation that

1:05:51 ↗ we're talking about and we're not

1:05:53 ↗ necessarily disagreeing with that we

1:05:56 ↗ just hadn't planned to put it into the

1:05:58 ↗ case okay okay that makes sense and then

1:06:06 ↗ there were and this might be a question

1:06:09 ↗ for the school district it's kind of

1:06:11 ↗ operational it's some of the questions

1:06:13 ↗ or concerns expressed by public comment

1:06:16 ↗ regarding operations in the bus loading

1:06:19 ↗ and unloading can you maybe two two

1:06:21 ↗ questions I guess one is what's the

1:06:24 ↗ process that you go through to ensure

1:06:26 ↗ that people are in responsible for the

1:06:28 ↗ operations getting the kids to and from

1:06:31 ↗ school safely are involved in reviewing

1:06:33 ↗ the design and then can you talk a

1:06:35 ↗ little bit about how little actually

1:06:37 ↗ what are the logistics of bus arrival

1:06:40 ↗ departure and loading and unloading of

1:06:42 ↗ the students okay the training Tom

1:06:47 ↗ Mullins with the school district

1:06:49 ↗ transportation center has has reviewed

1:06:53 ↗ the plan some of the concerns that were

1:06:58 ↗ brought up for the double stacking we've

1:07:01 ↗ done that at other schools and so in the

1:07:06 ↗ morning when buses come in they come in

1:07:07 ↗ intermittently they will go around the

1:07:09 ↗ bus loop they'll line up at the curb

1:07:11 ↗ unload and leave so they everybody will

1:07:14 ↗ be unloaded at the curb in the afternoon

1:07:18 ↗ all the buses come and stack up before

1:07:20 ↗ school's out they'll stack up on the

1:07:22 ↗ curb then they'll stack up the second

1:07:24 ↗ lane and we've done this also it alott

1:07:27 ↗ did a few different schools engines off

1:07:32 ↗ parking brake on before anybody is

1:07:35 ↗ allowed out on out to load onto the

1:07:38 ↗ buses so that stops any buses moving

1:07:43 ↗ white kids are

1:07:44 ↗ in unloading so all the buses load at

1:07:48 ↗ the same time and yes

1:07:49 ↗ none of the buses leave until all buses

1:07:52 ↗ are loaded exactly exactly

1:07:54 ↗ okay so then we don't have bus movement

1:07:58 ↗ happening while kids are me absolutely

1:08:00 ↗ not

1:08:02 ↗ that was so they all leave

1:08:05 ↗ simultaneously yes so one part of this

1:08:08 ↗ project and I probably should have spoke

1:08:11 ↗ up last time a little more is where

1:08:13 ↗ there's a the notion that we're gonna

1:08:16 ↗ widen that street to 11 feet to

1:08:18 ↗ accommodate that traffic but then

1:08:19 ↗ there's the curb flares out right it

1:08:22 ↗ where you would take a right turn so you

1:08:25 ↗ have how many buses leaving at that

1:08:29 ↗ moment we've designed the site for 18

1:08:31 ↗ okay we with the student population we

1:08:34 ↗ we're figuring it's gonna be something

1:08:36 ↗ less than that and they're all trying to

1:08:38 ↗ take a right turn on what now is you

1:08:42 ↗ know with the curb flare going to

1:08:44 ↗ prohibit any community members from

1:08:46 ↗ taking a left and turning down their

1:08:48 ↗ Street if they're coming in it just

1:08:51 ↗ seems like a point where a lot of

1:08:53 ↗ congestion will so when you say when the

1:08:55 ↗ buses are leaving they'll come out of

1:08:57 ↗ the drive taker right onto Falcon right

1:08:59 ↗ and I think right on to talus seems like

1:09:02 ↗ the issue I mean they'll tea and then

1:09:05 ↗ they'll take it right on to talus yeah

1:09:07 ↗ and who would be in your concern of the

1:09:10 ↗ conflict to say I live on the street and

1:09:12 ↗ I'm coming down up-up talus and I want

1:09:15 ↗ to take a left on the Falcon yeah and

1:09:16 ↗ I've got 18 buses stacked up there but

1:09:20 ↗ they but you're gonna be on opposite

1:09:21 ↗ sides of the road you're gonna be going

1:09:23 ↗ southbound they'll be going northbound

1:09:25 ↗ you'll just take them yeah single no

1:09:28 ↗ they're not all going out in unison side

1:09:31 ↗ by side they're going out single-file

1:09:32 ↗ okay okay

1:09:34 ↗ and there there also is a way to go

1:09:37 ↗ around the block and exit rather than

1:09:40 ↗ turning onto towels from Falcon you

1:09:42 ↗ could take her right and go around the

1:09:44 ↗ block okay that was my second question

1:09:46 ↗ is there an alternate route for somebody

1:09:49 ↗ that lives on that street when this is

1:09:51 ↗ happening I mean you know the other

1:09:52 ↗ thing is 18 buses could be lined up and

1:09:55 ↗ you're behind those 18 buses

1:09:57 ↗ is there see what you're saying the ads

1:09:59 ↗ they're going out on on Falcon 2 tallis

1:10:02 ↗ either way if there's game problems

1:10:04 ↗ coming in we don't see the conflict

1:10:05 ↗ because they'll be on the opposite side

1:10:08 ↗ of the road going the opposite direction

1:10:09 ↗ but I do see what you're saying

1:10:11 ↗ for those couple minutes when they're if

1:10:13 ↗ somebody's trying to go out they're

1:10:15 ↗ gonna be behind the buses well they have

1:10:18 ↗ an alternate route so you can continue

1:10:27 ↗ down down Falcon take the corner and

1:10:30 ↗ then continue all the way up Osprey okay

1:10:35 ↗ okay it still seems like it'll be

1:10:37 ↗ heavily congested at times but it seems

1:10:40 ↗ like you guys have studied it well and

1:10:43 ↗ yeah and there's in there's whenever we

1:10:46 ↗ have buses of massive buses leaving at

1:10:49 ↗ the same time there's there is those

1:10:52 ↗ couple minutes it is it is congested we

1:10:56 ↗ have Maywood middle school there's 24

1:10:58 ↗ buses leaving at the same time same

1:11:00 ↗ Drive single drive out to a single

1:11:02 ↗ arterial two-lane arterial and something

1:11:05 ↗ go left some go right but it's it takes

1:11:09 ↗ you a minute they all get all right all

1:11:11 ↗ right thank you are they taking a left

1:11:13 ↗ on talus drive the buses or is there

1:11:15 ↗ only a right as they exit Falcon they

1:11:19 ↗ can take a left you can take a look yeah

1:11:21 ↗ so those taking a left will back up the

1:11:24 ↗ other ones because it being one lane

1:11:27 ↗ right is there - do we have to do we

1:11:32 ↗ have a left hand a right on Falcon

1:11:34 ↗ single lane so and there's only one bus

1:11:37 ↗ that will go up up west on cows okay

1:11:42 ↗ yep okay interesting

1:11:49 ↗ other comments Jason we're Swiss with

1:11:53 ↗ lessons cool district I was gonna add as

1:11:56 ↗ well if the Falcon way you can you could

1:11:59 ↗ go the other way and go around and still

1:12:01 ↗ access Telus Drive

1:12:02 ↗ I would articulate to you that the car

1:12:04 ↗ on Falcon way would technically have the

1:12:05 ↗ right of way to any bus that was stopped

1:12:08 ↗ to turn right if that makes sense so if

1:12:10 ↗ I'm a bus I would pull up and if I had

1:12:13 ↗ an oncoming car they would have

1:12:14 ↗ right-of-way so the bus would be waiting

1:12:17 ↗ for that car to get through to make a

1:12:18 ↗ right on talus or continue straight on

1:12:21 ↗ Falcon and then make a right okay we're

1:12:24 ↗ also the do not block boxes will occur

1:12:27 ↗ at those yes good evening I'm Todd

1:12:34 ↗ McBryan with Heffron transportation just

1:12:37 ↗ to add a little bit more color to the

1:12:38 ↗ discussion so the time frame when we

1:12:42 ↗ normally see the string of buses leaving

1:12:44 ↗ the site tends to be the afternoon as

1:12:46 ↗ Tom was describing after they load them

1:12:48 ↗ all up and then they'll leave in unison

1:12:51 ↗ one by one in a line and usually when

1:12:54 ↗ you have that many buses they can get

1:12:56 ↗ out within about a five minute period

1:12:57 ↗ depending on their access condition so

1:13:01 ↗ part of our analysis as you've probably

1:13:03 ↗ seen in our detailed traffic technical

1:13:06 ↗ report included traffic counts of Falcon

1:13:08 ↗ way so we have a sense of the volume of

1:13:10 ↗ traffic in the afternoon the volume of

1:13:12 ↗ traffic at 2:15 or between 2:15 and 2:45

1:13:15 ↗ is relatively low on Falcon Drive so not

1:13:18 ↗ only do they have an alternative way

1:13:20 ↗ around but the number of folks actually

1:13:22 ↗ trying to make a turn out of Falcon on

1:13:24 ↗ to Tallis's is quite small so the number

1:13:27 ↗ of cars that might get caught behind

1:13:28 ↗ buses should be relatively small for the

1:13:33 ↗ morning timeframe part of our analysis

1:13:35 ↗ also included multiple counts and

1:13:38 ↗ observations of Pacific cascade middle

1:13:41 ↗ school and where we could observe a

1:13:43 ↗ number of buses arriving we observed

1:13:45 ↗ that site because it was similar in size

1:13:49 ↗ and had a what we expect to be a similar

1:13:52 ↗ bus transportation level making a

1:13:55 ↗ transport about 74 percent of their

1:13:56 ↗ population by bus

1:13:58 ↗ and we expect this to be at least that

1:14:00 ↗ high given its its location and what we

1:14:03 ↗ see for the bus is arriving in the

1:14:06 ↗ morning is that they might arrive to

1:14:09 ↗ three to four every five minutes at a

1:14:11 ↗ time

1:14:12 ↗ so unlike any afternoon when you might

1:14:14 ↗ have 18 buses all leaving at once in the

1:14:16 ↗ morning because they're all coming from

1:14:18 ↗ different routes throughout the area

1:14:19 ↗ they're arriving at different times

1:14:21 ↗ throughout that first 20 minutes as

1:14:23 ↗ they're getting in so you might see five

1:14:25 ↗ or six arrive in a five minute period

1:14:27 ↗ but that's why we expect in general

1:14:30 ↗ those queues to be relatively small for

1:14:32 ↗ entering the site and then getting out

1:14:37 ↗ in the afternoon the volumes on both

1:14:39 ↗ talus and Falcon are expected to be

1:14:40 ↗ lower so even with those buses in the

1:14:42 ↗ morning taking a left onto Falcon way

1:14:44 ↗ and you've got all the commuters pouring

1:14:46 ↗ off of that hill right how are they

1:14:48 ↗ really gonna traffic because the traffic

1:14:52 ↗ is down stripper the light is downstream

1:14:54 ↗ the light is downstream it's not so far

1:14:56 ↗ downstream that we wouldn't expect some

1:14:59 ↗ queuing to get to the Falcon

1:15:01 ↗ intersection which is why we've nets but

1:15:04 ↗ recommended for the you know don't walk

1:15:05 ↗ the Box section and extra signage to

1:15:08 ↗ keep folks from blocking that and so to

1:15:10 ↗ the extent that cars are coming down the

1:15:12 ↗ talus hill they come to a stop at that

1:15:14 ↗ location they'll get excuse me they

1:15:17 ↗ leave a gap for the school buses to turn

1:15:19 ↗ into or out of depending on the time of

1:15:21 ↗ day okay would you like to see the

1:15:23 ↗ traffic simulation model that they

1:15:25 ↗ prepared we have a cliff we could see

1:15:27 ↗ the morning that's movement

1:15:33 ↗ you do movies now yeah

1:15:35 ↗ there's pictures so this is this is 11

1:15:42 ↗ minutes in you might might notice by the

1:15:45 ↗ minute but this is at the 11 or 12

1:15:47 ↗ minute mark from this 725 to 5 755 time

1:15:51 ↗ frame yeah right I'll narrate a little

1:15:57 ↗ bit so what this is showing is that

1:15:59 ↗ morning arrival period and as you can

1:16:01 ↗ see some of the busses have come in and

1:16:02 ↗ and dropped off students and they've

1:16:04 ↗ already left the site some of them are

1:16:07 ↗ waiting there at the intersection and

1:16:09 ↗ some of them are still dropping students

1:16:11 ↗ off within the loading zone I would know

1:16:14 ↗ this although I think Tom mr. Mullins

1:16:18 ↗ has described how the buses operate on

1:16:20 ↗ site our visa and simulation models

1:16:23 ↗ aren't quite sophisticated enough to

1:16:25 ↗ represent the different loading and

1:16:27 ↗ unloading schemes that they're talking

1:16:29 ↗ about so they're there to show all the

1:16:31 ↗ buses lined up there but you can also

1:16:35 ↗ see the operation of the school

1:16:37 ↗ automobile load on loads as well oh well

1:16:41 ↗ this is helpful to see and thanks for

1:16:43 ↗ answering my question

1:16:54 ↗ a question again for the applicants

1:16:59 ↗ northeast elevation there was in my

1:17:03 ↗ packet I received the original and then

1:17:07 ↗ the propose but if I recall correctly

1:17:09 ↗ during the presentation there were two

1:17:11 ↗ options being explored for that or a

1:17:14 ↗ third option yeah okay so what's the

1:17:16 ↗ preferred or is can you show me that

1:17:20 ↗ third option again please

1:17:31 ↗ so this is the existing blank wall

1:17:35 ↗ that's in the design this was our first

1:17:38 ↗ thought and our second thought so the

1:17:42 ↗ the first thought is over here on the

1:17:44 ↗ left and the second thought is to bring

1:17:47 ↗ the light gray around the building to

1:17:50 ↗ really emphasize that what we refer to

1:17:52 ↗ as the cap with the darker metal and

1:17:56 ↗ where the sloped roof is and that wraps

1:17:58 ↗ around the building and that this later

1:18:01 ↗ gray kind of hugs the building Seiden so

1:18:05 ↗ architectural II we feel this is a

1:18:06 ↗ stronger statement to have this light

1:18:10 ↗ gray with the windows that have been

1:18:12 ↗ added with the would like panel in

1:18:14 ↗ between the windows okay and that's a

1:18:18 ↗ metal panel in the grave yes it's the

1:18:20 ↗ same metal panel that is on other

1:18:23 ↗ aspects other parts of the buildings

1:18:25 ↗ this gray that gray and this gray are

1:18:27 ↗ all the same and you can see the

1:18:29 ↗ building beyond has the same gray metal

1:18:31 ↗ on it just it's faded back is that a

1:18:33 ↗ raised texture is that like a corrugated

1:18:36 ↗ metal ores that have a pattern to it

1:18:40 ↗ there's so many different textures that

1:18:42 ↗ it's really hard to describe it without

1:18:43 ↗ the sample so okay I'm sorry it's

1:18:48 ↗ something we did go through with a RC

1:18:50 ↗ yeah that was my question is this an

1:18:53 ↗ architecture review committee yes yeah

1:18:55 ↗ we did talk with David Mead there okay

1:18:57 ↗ about the MINIX I mean I think as we

1:19:00 ↗ mentioned in the memo it may not be in

1:19:04 ↗ your purview if you have thoughts you're

1:19:06 ↗ welcome to share them then ERC can take

1:19:09 ↗ them under advisement but it would not

1:19:10 ↗ be our wouldn't be your decision

1:19:12 ↗ wouldn't be our decision but you're

1:19:15 ↗ welcome to share your thoughts okay

1:19:17 ↗ I appreciate the clarification I just

1:19:18 ↗ saw a couple different options so was

1:19:20 ↗ curious which one you guys went maybe a

1:19:24 ↗ related point the mesh

1:19:26 ↗ I guess the screening mesh that's being

1:19:27 ↗ used on the north wall of service

1:19:29 ↗ facility as well as on the parking

1:19:31 ↗ garage on the parking garage at least we

1:19:34 ↗ have a requirement for opacity to screen

1:19:36 ↗ headlights correct

1:19:38 ↗ so how is that mesh working to or what

1:19:43 ↗ capability do we have in the garage to

1:19:46 ↗ completely make headlights screened

1:19:50 ↗ opaquely but as well permit visibility

1:19:54 ↗ to that same material on the north wall

1:19:56 ↗ of the service area I'm just going to

1:20:00 ↗ pull up that

1:20:12 ↗ it's just the one think it's one more

1:20:18 ↗ this is a wall section of the parking

1:20:22 ↗ garage and the area right here in

1:20:27 ↗ indicates where a car would be parked

1:20:29 ↗ and this line that you see is actually a

1:20:32 ↗ dimension line but it's showing the

1:20:35 ↗ dimension of solid wall that would be

1:20:37 ↗ provided to shield headlights and then

1:20:40 ↗ there'll be openness and for the parking

1:20:44 ↗ garage that would have the mesh that

1:20:46 ↗ we've been talking about and similarly

1:20:48 ↗ on the upper deck we would have a solid

1:20:50 ↗ wall that would screen the headlights

1:20:52 ↗ sim I see okay so no cars are parked

1:20:55 ↗ right behind the mesh behind wall yes so

1:20:59 ↗ the mesh would go actually goes

1:21:01 ↗ multi-level straight up along this line

1:21:04 ↗ here and so there'd be a car that would

1:21:07 ↗ be parked you know if I could draw a car

1:21:10 ↗ with my cursor car would be in this area

1:21:12 ↗ with the headlights would be below this

1:21:14 ↗ solid concrete wall okay it looks like

1:21:23 ↗ you're not really seeing that concrete

1:21:25 ↗ wall in the elevation right because of

1:21:26 ↗ that right mesh because of the mesh yep

1:21:28 ↗ and then the mesh goes up higher to

1:21:31 ↗ provide safety

1:21:43 ↗ the other questions we were ready for

1:21:51 ↗ emotion um one one point we just wanted

1:21:56 ↗ it direction from the commissioner was

1:22:00 ↗ that the applicant is asked for a

1:22:02 ↗ condition to be modified beyond our

1:22:07 ↗ excellent editors catches so it was

1:22:14 ↗ related to noise and a modification to

1:22:20 ↗ condition 30 it's up on your screen and

1:22:24 ↗ I don't think the city has a

1:22:30 ↗ recommendation one way or the other and

1:22:33 ↗ so but this was a request of the

1:22:36 ↗ applicant um after the memo was issued

1:22:41 ↗ what's it allowed at other schools is

1:22:45 ↗ there a decibel level or anything like

1:22:47 ↗ that it's a limit I think it's so at the

1:22:52 ↗ high schools where you get amplified

1:22:57 ↗ sound I think that would fall under we

1:23:01 ↗ don't have any specific noise

1:23:03 ↗ regulations beyond we don't have a

1:23:07 ↗ specific noise regulation for a high

1:23:09 ↗ school the middle school again there was

1:23:14 ↗ a prohibition on all amplified sound and

1:23:19 ↗ I think that was again coming from the

1:23:22 ↗ development Commission district agreed

1:23:24 ↗ to it I think in thinking about it more

1:23:27 ↗ under these circumstances this was a

1:23:31 ↗ request you and as we were talking about

1:23:35 ↗ the examples that were shared and you

1:23:37 ↗ can elaborate further was if there's

1:23:39 ↗ fire drills and they're out on the field

1:23:41 ↗ they need to give direction to the

1:23:43 ↗ students and the teachers about how to

1:23:46 ↗ queue up and then for track means we're

1:23:48 ↗ gonna speak further

1:23:50 ↗ I'm Jason Morse McGee an executive

1:23:53 ↗ director of middle schools with the

1:23:54 ↗ equesticle district so really the

1:23:57 ↗ intention here would be during our

1:23:59 ↗ mandatory safety and evacuation drills

1:24:03 ↗ it is very common for all of our middle

1:24:06 ↗ schools at this point in time to use

1:24:08 ↗ typically a bullhorn simply to address

1:24:13 ↗ you know 800 students in staff to

1:24:17 ↗ provide direction during attendance

1:24:19 ↗ taking while we are in the field on an

1:24:21 ↗ evacuation drill or for that matter in

1:24:25 ↗ the case of an actual evacuation if a

1:24:29 ↗ fire alarm were to go out it's intended

1:24:32 ↗ more as a safety precaution to simply

1:24:35 ↗ communicate with a large group of staff

1:24:38 ↗ and students on the field I would

1:24:41 ↗ articulate that under my knowledge now

1:24:46 ↗ currently none of our middle schools

1:24:47 ↗ have a amplified built-in speaker system

1:24:52 ↗ that would be as an example playing

1:24:55 ↗ music at a sporting event or something

1:24:57 ↗ like that

1:24:58 ↗ is Jenna it's typically a portable

1:25:00 ↗ microphone system or a bullhorn there is

1:25:04 ↗ one other time that portable system

1:25:09 ↗ would be likely used for our middle

1:25:12 ↗ school and that would be during a track

1:25:14 ↗ meet simply - if you've been to attract

1:25:17 ↗ me to announce when competitors should

1:25:21 ↗ report to a starting line so for example

1:25:24 ↗ it would be used to announce so the

1:25:28 ↗ students on the field could hear you

1:25:30 ↗ know as an example all 100-meter dash

1:25:32 ↗ runners please report to the start line

1:25:35 ↗ now I would like to just emphasize that

1:25:40 ↗ currently we have five middle schools in

1:25:42 ↗ our school district and we only compete

1:25:45 ↗ within our own district so we would have

1:25:48 ↗ six middle schools at the time of this

1:25:50 ↗ school being opened

1:25:51 ↗ we typically divide home-and-away meets

1:25:55 ↗ evenly so the likelihood of a home track

1:25:58 ↗ meet would be two or three

1:26:00 ↗ from the end of April to the start of

1:26:03 ↗ June so over that four to five week

1:26:06 ↗ period of May probably two maybe three

1:26:10 ↗ home track meets would take place those

1:26:12 ↗ track needs would typically take place

1:26:14 ↗ between approximately 3 p.m. and 6 p.m.

1:26:17 ↗ so it's not going to be late into the

1:26:19 ↗ night or into the hours and those are

1:26:22 ↗ really the two times where it just in

1:26:25 ↗ the interest of transparency that that

1:26:26 ↗ would be pretty standard safety practice

1:26:30 ↗ to be able to address our students and

1:26:32 ↗ also to manage the egress from the

1:26:37 ↗ building and from the field back back to

1:26:39 ↗ the building Lots on the condition

1:26:45 ↗ proposed since this is new to us this

1:26:48 ↗ evening I'm still not clear on condition

1:26:58 ↗ 30 is amplified sound prohibited the

1:27:06 ↗ amplified sound from permanent speakers

1:27:09 ↗ would be prohibited but portable

1:27:14 ↗ speakers and bullhorns would be allowed

1:27:16 ↗ only by this school using it for

1:27:19 ↗ emergency drills and Trek meets for this

1:27:22 ↗ condition but I guess the original staff

1:27:26 ↗ report said use of amplified sound shall

1:27:29 ↗ be prohibited right so where did that

1:27:31 ↗ come from it was it was intended to

1:27:35 ↗ match the condition that the development

1:27:37 ↗ Commission put on this equip middle

1:27:38 ↗ school ok their field

1:27:47 ↗ so there's no portable sound system

1:27:50 ↗ allowed it is qualms I wasn't involved

1:27:52 ↗ in that one okay so just a little

1:27:56 ↗ history on that one so we had a

1:27:58 ↗ neighborhood somewhere that's been close

1:28:01 ↗ proximity to

1:28:02 ↗ Issaquah middle school and obviously

1:28:04 ↗ they're very concerned about when

1:28:07 ↗ lighting was at into the field

1:28:08 ↗ late evening events more concerned about

1:28:12 ↗ noise from those events and there was a

1:28:16 ↗ conversation about amplified sound that

1:28:19 ↗ resulted in the Commission conditioning

1:28:22 ↗ either this or similar to this condition

1:28:24 ↗ that prohibited and amplified sound at

1:28:25 ↗ that field I feel like having that

1:28:31 ↗ information now sets the precedent if

1:28:34 ↗ it's if it's a similar scenario where

1:28:37 ↗ you have community close by so shouldn't

1:28:40 ↗ the precedent prevail as opposed to

1:28:44 ↗ allowing this because it isn't now the

1:28:48 ↗ option that the other middle school

1:28:50 ↗ could want amplified sound at times

1:28:52 ↗ because this school does so with that in

1:28:55 ↗ mind I don't know what are you guys

1:28:58 ↗ their thoughts an option could be to

1:29:01 ↗ have it limited to the hours the lights

1:29:03 ↗ are used well that wouldn't it would

1:29:06 ↗ they wouldn't be out there anyway you

1:29:08 ↗ probably wouldn't want it out there wait

1:29:10 ↗ wait yeah well it sounds like it's these

1:29:13 ↗ will be turned off well before 9:00 p.m.

1:29:15 ↗ or 9:15 p.m. when the lights are turning

1:29:17 ↗ off I mean the low frequency of usage as

1:29:20 ↗ described I don't see that as personally

1:29:24 ↗ being a concern but right generally

1:29:27 ↗ speaking any fire drill or evacuation

1:29:31 ↗ drill would be mandated seven drills a

1:29:38 ↗ year on evac but I mean realistically

1:29:42 ↗ once a month is a pretty good indicator

1:29:45 ↗ of a requirement for that drill now I

1:29:48 ↗ can't comment on should an actual real

1:29:51 ↗ earthquake happen or a fire happen

1:29:53 ↗ obviously we would we would exercise our

1:29:56 ↗ drill in that case hopefully the

1:29:58 ↗ frequency of that is quite

1:30:00 ↗ limited does the Issaquah middle school

1:30:03 ↗ do four drills of that sort my

1:30:07 ↗ understanding the evac is well first

1:30:11 ↗ sound for sound I was under the

1:30:13 ↗ impression that they would use a

1:30:14 ↗ bullhorn in that case and do they have

1:30:19 ↗ similar facilities similar play field is

1:30:22 ↗ about middle school as we speak has

1:30:25 ↗ actually would have more because I

1:30:27 ↗ believe they have a baseball field

1:30:29 ↗ is that true on their site they have a

1:30:31 ↗ baseball field but they also have the

1:30:33 ↗ track and the turf field and the Tallis

1:30:36 ↗ middle school would have the track and

1:30:37 ↗ turf field but no baseball field I think

1:30:40 ↗ the thing that I would add is I think

1:30:42 ↗ all bets are off in an actual so I think

1:30:46 ↗ this is probably about more the

1:30:49 ↗ scheduled events this for your

1:30:53 ↗ considering I would articulate that it's

1:30:55 ↗ quite likely that the fire and aid

1:30:57 ↗ response would have a louder siren

1:30:59 ↗ system than principal out there asking

1:31:02 ↗ the sixth graders to please stay quieter

1:31:04 ↗ in the drill

1:31:06 ↗ my name is Royston or gate with a school

1:31:09 ↗ district I was part of the field

1:31:11 ↗ lighting for the middle school part of

1:31:14 ↗ the concern is is as a as a community

1:31:18 ↗ field the amplified music was not

1:31:20 ↗ supposed to be done that got signs on

1:31:22 ↗ there for 8 o'clock as far as for

1:31:25 ↗ emergencies and that kind of stuff that

1:31:27 ↗ is no longer really a field as much as

1:31:29 ↗ it is a a gathering space to do that so

1:31:32 ↗ I'm sure that they're still using the

1:31:34 ↗ bullhorn but not for PE or anything like

1:31:37 ↗ that the other concern that became with

1:31:39 ↗ music is that neighborhoods because they

1:31:41 ↗ can hear is equal high school we're

1:31:43 ↗ really concerned that we're gonna put in

1:31:46 ↗ a sound system and they were gonna have

1:31:47 ↗ another Stadium type situation where the

1:31:50 ↗ music was really loud and lots of

1:31:53 ↗ activity like that and so that's where

1:31:54 ↗ some of the sound system issues came up

1:31:56 ↗ was so that we didn't repeat Issaquah

1:31:59 ↗ high school and have another full-size

1:32:01 ↗ stadium so that's that's some of the

1:32:04 ↗ background on on why the the limited

1:32:07 ↗ amplified music so just wanted to give

1:32:10 ↗ you a heads up on that

1:32:11 ↗ like yeah I think that's an accurate

1:32:13 ↗ statement of the conversation I think it

1:32:16 ↗ really was concerned about permanent

1:32:18 ↗ sound system being installed in a much

1:32:21 ↗ more accurate event

1:32:22 ↗ I guess my reaction to this one is

1:32:26 ↗ obviously for emergency drills etc the

1:32:29 ↗ use of a bullhorn is just isn't

1:32:32 ↗ necessary to ensure the safety of of the

1:32:35 ↗ kids and the staff the use of a hand

1:32:38 ↗ bullhorn or portable speaker for the

1:32:41 ↗ purpose of communication probably isn't

1:32:44 ↗ too obtrusive I think like any neighbor

1:32:47 ↗ if it becomes that then you start

1:32:49 ↗ hearing from them and but this is a

1:32:51 ↗ fairly limited a fairly narrow condition

1:32:55 ↗ I think as far as it they use I do think

1:32:59 ↗ though I would narrow it even further

1:33:01 ↗ and it would just be for the purpose of

1:33:03 ↗ communication so bullhorn may be used

1:33:06 ↗ for the purpose of communication for

1:33:08 ↗ school operations and school sponsored

1:33:11 ↗ events so that we don't have music and

1:33:13 ↗ there's no question about that that's

1:33:14 ↗ not allowed because things have a

1:33:16 ↗ tendency to creep but that's my opinion

1:33:19 ↗ I don't know that a limited use of a

1:33:22 ↗ bullhorn for communication purposes for

1:33:24 ↗ drills or for kid events on the field

1:33:28 ↗ would be overly obtrusive and we have a

1:33:30 ↗ bit of an elevation or grade change out

1:33:32 ↗ there to everybody above which helps a

1:33:34 ↗ little bit to in this case yeah there's

1:33:37 ↗ a massive retaining wall right and I

1:33:40 ↗ guess who knows until it's in practice

1:33:43 ↗ but it seems like it what might

1:33:44 ↗ reverberate back and minimize the noise

1:33:47 ↗ and we assume that the communication is

1:33:49 ↗ always by school administration do the

1:33:52 ↗ students in these events a safe

1:33:54 ↗ assumption or are there others

1:33:57 ↗ thank you a great question it would be I

1:33:59 ↗ would say it would be by school staff

1:34:00 ↗ and the only reason that would

1:34:02 ↗ articulate staff versus administration

1:34:05 ↗ is should both administrators be at a

1:34:07 ↗ meeting the Dean of Students would take

1:34:09 ↗ over not technically an administrator

1:34:11 ↗ but it would be a member of the safety

1:34:14 ↗ team and a member of the staff that

1:34:18 ↗ would be communicating yes okay so I

1:34:21 ↗ wonder if we could add that to the

1:34:22 ↗ condition as we go I think I think that

1:34:26 ↗ would be that my edit would be maybe

1:34:32 ↗ used to facilitate communication or

1:34:36 ↗ school operations or school sponsor

1:34:38 ↗ events and then it's gonna take me two

1:34:44 ↗ long lunches let's say so what what I've

1:34:46 ↗ edited and she's gonna pull it up well I

1:34:53 ↗ modified it so it says portable speakers

1:34:55 ↗ or bullhorns

1:34:57 ↗ maybe used by school staff for the

1:35:00 ↗ purpose of communication for school

1:35:02 ↗ operations or at school sponsored events

1:35:06 ↗ um maybe too many prone

1:35:14 ↗ you can the meeting it gets the point

1:35:19 ↗ across

1:35:21 ↗ besides the Issaquah middle school look

1:35:23 ↗ what happens at the other middle schools

1:35:25 ↗ in the district or amplified sound yes

1:35:36 ↗ the other four middle schools in the

1:35:40 ↗ district they would either use a

1:35:41 ↗ portable bullhorn or as part of their

1:35:44 ↗ state to procedure they they wheel out a

1:35:46 ↗ small portable microphone with a

1:35:52 ↗ ampulla you know sound device that they

1:35:55 ↗ that's small enough to be portable

1:35:56 ↗ during the event of a building

1:35:59 ↗ evacuation what about sporting events

1:36:01 ↗ sporting events the only sporting events

1:36:03 ↗ that I'm aware of that would use any

1:36:05 ↗ bullhorn or sound like that is the two

1:36:09 ↗ to three track needs home track meets

1:36:11 ↗ per year and again that's intended on

1:36:15 ↗ communicating with the students on where

1:36:18 ↗ they should be on the field so they

1:36:19 ↗ don't miss a start of a race I remember

1:36:25 ↗ that from high school track personally

1:36:29 ↗ there's Mike I agree with my fellow

1:36:33 ↗ commissioners I think communication is a

1:36:35 ↗ good keyword to include that just you

1:36:37 ↗ know prevents the situation from being

1:36:39 ↗ taken advantage of it's it's done with a

1:36:43 ↗ purpose and I think that's important

1:36:45 ↗ obviously safety is a huge factor so we

1:36:47 ↗ got to keep that in mind and still allow

1:36:49 ↗ that to be done

1:36:57 ↗ anything else

1:36:58 ↗ questions for staff or the applicant and

1:37:06 ↗ we are comfortable with the responses

1:37:10 ↗ sounds like we have some amendments have

1:37:13 ↗ been made to conditions but what you see

1:37:17 ↗ on the screen are the three other than

1:37:19 ↗ 30 that you were just discussing twenty

1:37:22 ↗ thirty three and forty three are the

1:37:26 ↗ ones you identified I've left the track

1:37:29 ↗ changes in as it appears in your memo

1:37:31 ↗ but highlighted the words where as far

1:37:36 ↗ as I could tell you either caught a typo

1:37:39 ↗ or suggested at it transcription down

1:37:55 ↗ mr. Chairman I move that the development

1:37:58 ↗ Commission approved the site development

1:38:00 ↗ permit for middle school number six

1:38:02 ↗ file number STP 19-0 zero zero zero two

1:38:07 ↗ and subscribed and evaluated and the

1:38:09 ↗ staff report dated January 9 2020 with

1:38:12 ↗ attachments one through 15 reefing

1:38:15 ↗ response memo dated February three 2020

1:38:18 ↗ with attachments one through eleven and

1:38:19 ↗ project drawings and reports received

1:38:21 ↗ April 1 2019 and all subsequent

1:38:24 ↗ submittals up to January 28 2020 and

1:38:27 ↗ subject to the conditions therein and as

1:38:30 ↗ amended tonight and I move that the

1:38:33 ↗ development Commission direct the

1:38:35 ↗ development services department to

1:38:37 ↗ prepare it take them a separate motion

1:38:39 ↗ so very the first one first to approve

1:38:41 ↗ all then we'll move to okay take my

1:38:44 ↗ separate so is there a second I would

1:38:45 ↗ second great thanks for the motion any

1:38:48 ↗ additional discussion or amendment I

1:38:51 ↗ want to I want to make one suggestion

1:38:54 ↗ just based on the conversation that we

1:38:56 ↗ had

1:38:57 ↗ about the turn around the vehicle turn

1:38:59 ↗ around and the trail crossing might be

1:39:01 ↗ good to add something that really

1:39:03 ↗ emphasizes what you're talking about and

1:39:04 ↗ that was the notion of visibility

1:39:06 ↗ between the pedestrians and vehicle and

1:39:09 ↗ the drivers and so I'm going to suggest

1:39:12 ↗ some language here for an additional

1:39:16 ↗ condition number 46

1:39:19 ↗ I believe worth I believe that number 46

1:39:22 ↗ is the where we go said would be to

1:39:25 ↗ ensure the design of landscaping in a

1:39:27 ↗ hard scape for the vehicle drop-off turn

1:39:29 ↗ around will maintain clear sight lines

1:39:32 ↗ between drivers and pedestrians

1:39:34 ↗ accessing the school property from the

1:39:36 ↗ trail the idea is to make sure that we

1:39:39 ↗ don't have anything because there's

1:39:40 ↗ landscaping in that turn around there's

1:39:43 ↗ hard scape because it's on there's some

1:39:45 ↗ slope and some walls in there so to pay

1:39:49 ↗ particular attention to sight lines and

1:39:51 ↗ making sure that we don't have things

1:39:52 ↗ planted that grow tall particularly even

1:39:56 ↗ though we have low probability of kids

1:39:59 ↗ using students using that trail for

1:40:01 ↗ accessing the school ensuring that we're

1:40:03 ↗ taking every step we can to make that a

1:40:06 ↗ safe environment for crossing so they

1:40:07 ↗ don't get conflicted with vehicles do

1:40:12 ↗ I'd be happy to condition number 46

1:40:16 ↗ ensure the design of landscaping and a

1:40:20 ↗ hard scape okay just okay or the vehicle

1:40:28 ↗ turn around or excuse me for the vehicle

1:40:31 ↗ drop-off turn around so it's the

1:40:35 ↗ drop-off zone and the turn around will

1:40:37 ↗ maintain clear sight lines

1:40:42 ↗ between drivers and pedestrians

1:40:49 ↗ accessing the school property from the

1:40:54 ↗ trail would you mind if I added the word

1:41:00 ↗ community in front of trail that would

1:41:02 ↗ be just to be clear that would be great

1:41:04 ↗ thank you

1:41:15 ↗ so I will move that as an amendment to

1:41:17 ↗ the conditions on the motion and is

1:41:20 ↗ there a second second

1:41:23 ↗ any comments questions additions edits

1:41:28 ↗ great I'm glad we have some language

1:41:30 ↗ around this Thanks

1:41:32 ↗ so all in favor then of approving this

1:41:36 ↗ as an additional condition please say

1:41:38 ↗ aye aye opposed

1:41:40 ↗ okay so we'll add that as a condition

1:41:42 ↗ now we're back to the main motion any

1:41:45 ↗ additional questions can or excuse me

1:41:48 ↗ conditions very minutes

1:41:51 ↗ seeing none all those in favor of the

1:41:54 ↗ main motion say aye

1:41:55 ↗ aye opposed and I moved at the

1:42:02 ↗ Development Commission direct the

1:42:04 ↗ development services department to

1:42:06 ↗ prepare findings of fact and conclusions

1:42:07 ↗ for review and approval by the

1:42:09 ↗ development commission chairman

1:42:11 ↗ affirming the development Commission's

1:42:12 ↗ decision to approve the middle school

1:42:14 ↗ number six project file number SDP dash

1:42:18 ↗ zero zero zero two subjects are the

1:42:20 ↗ conditions listed in the staff report

1:42:22 ↗ date of January 9 2020 with attachments

1:42:25 ↗ 1 through 15 briefing response memo

1:42:28 ↗ dated February 3 2020 with attachments 1

1:42:32 ↗ through 11 and project drawings and

1:42:34 ↗ reports received April 1 2019 and all

1:42:38 ↗ subsequent subsequent submittals up to

1:42:40 ↗ January 28 2020 and subject to the

1:42:43 ↗ conditions therein and as amended

1:42:45 ↗ tonight is there a second can I make a

1:42:49 ↗ comment on it did you say attachments 1

1:42:52 ↗ through 11 is that what I said it says 1

1:42:57 ↗ through 1 I know I said it I believe I

1:42:59 ↗ said attachments 1 to 11 I hope I did

1:43:01 ↗ that I'm gonna copy oh okay okay is

1:43:03 ↗ there a second person another coming we

1:43:06 ↗ say acting development Commission's year

1:43:11 ↗ absolutely the we would have put acting

1:43:16 ↗ great that comes to me it would be

1:43:19 ↗ approval by the acting Development

1:43:20 ↗ Commission Chairman is there a second I

1:43:25 ↗ second there's a second any discussion

1:43:29 ↗ seeing none all in favor say aye aye

1:43:32 ↗ opposed unanimous thank you so we have

1:43:36 ↗ cross the finish line with the mill

1:43:42 ↗ stool number six just a quick comment on

1:43:46 ↗ this so this is that this has been a

1:43:48 ↗ challenging project I know from

1:43:49 ↗ everybody that's been involved because

1:43:51 ↗ this site is not an easy one

1:43:53 ↗ I do certainly appreciate the Commission

1:43:55 ↗ certainly appreciates the active

1:43:57 ↗ involvement from the community on this I

1:43:59 ↗ know even outside the Commission the

1:44:01 ↗ district and the city staff have been

1:44:02 ↗ working with the community to get

1:44:04 ↗ feedback input to help shape the design

1:44:06 ↗ of this facility I think it's going to

1:44:09 ↗ be a great addition to the cities or to

1:44:11 ↗ the school districts facilities and to

1:44:13 ↗ the community so really appreciate all

1:44:16 ↗ the great work from the whole team both

1:44:18 ↗ the city the school district and the

1:44:20 ↗ community and the Commission cells nice

1:44:22 ↗ work

1:44:23 ↗ so we have another meeting scheduled for

1:44:26 ↗ Wednesday you're organized way too hard

1:44:29 ↗ so we have a I believe that's a joint

1:44:31 ↗ meeting with the is that with the

1:44:32 ↗ Planning Policy Commission so we are

1:44:35 ↗ adjourned until Wednesday thank you

1:44:39 ↗ thanks thank you thank you very much

1:44:49 ↗ you

1:44:53 ↗ you

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Attendance

Council / Members (12)

Administration/Staff: Michael Brennan

Acting Chair Lucy Sloman

Land Development Mgr. Kevin Price Keith Niven

Econ. Dev. & Dev. Services Richard Sanford Director Brooke Shore Doug Schlepp

DSD Eng. Consultant Arthur Schulte

Alternate (voting as Regular Katie Cote

Planning Consultant Member) Others Present: Commissioners Not Present: Rebecca Baibak

Integrus Architecture Richard Sowa

(Excused) Jason Morse

Issaquah School District Mel Morgan

(Excused) Tom Mullins

Issaquah School District Ben Rush (Excused)