Development Commission · Wednesday, January 15, 2020 · City Council Digest

1. CALL TO ORDER

Commission Membership

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Staff report:

Development Commission About Staff Liaison Created in 1983, this commission reviews all land Lucy Sloman, use actions requiring a Level 3 review. The Land Development Manager Commission further serves as an advisory board Email to the City Council on land use actions requiring council approval (Level 5 review). Regular Members 2020 – Melvin Morgan The appearance of fairness doctrine prohibits 2020 – Kevin Price Development Commission members and City 2022 – Michael Brennan Council members from discussing the merit of 2022 – Richard Sowa specific land use development applications outside 2022 – Richard Sanford of the formal public meeting process. Citizens, 2023 – Brooke Shore however, may discuss any issue with the City's 2023 – Ben Rush Development Services Department. Written comments are also welcome. Alternate Members 2020 – Mark Rigos Membership 2020 – Nischitha Venkatesh The…

2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES

Minutes of December 4, 2019

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Staff report:

SCHULTE asked which elevations will be seen from Newport Way. Tolleshaug replied the east façade of Building I faces Newport Way, and showed it on a diagram. He added Building II is located south of Building I. Burnett added about 100-120 feet exists between the two buildings. Sloman displayed the site plan.

Minutes of December 18, 2019

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Staff report:

APPROVAL OF MINUTES b) 12-18-2019 Development Commission Minutes Page [0000]

Site Development Permit for Middle School No. 6 in Talus - Quasi-judicial, Application No. SDP19-00002 -Continued from Dec. 18, 2019

Katie Cote, Planning Consultant Kim Young, Project Manager, Integrus Architecture · packet pp.13–278

Topics: Land Use

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Staff report:

Development Services 1775 – 12th Ave. NW | P.O. Box 1307 Issaquah, WA 98027 425-837-3100 issaquahwa.gov

4. OTHER BUSINESS / ANNOUNCEMENTS

The next meeting is scheduled for February 5, 2020 at 7:00 p.m. in Council Chambers

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0:29 ↗ I could evening ladies and gentlemen we

0:32 ↗ welcome you to the public hearing for a

0:35 ↗ site development permit for middle

0:37 ↗ school number six and Talas its site

0:39 ↗ development permit 1900 zero zero two

0:42 ↗ and I'd like to welcome you all it's a

0:46 ↗ you know it's obvious that you made a

0:48 ↗ commitment to get through this kind of

0:49 ↗ snowy it wasn't Snowmageddon but it was

0:52 ↗ snowy at least and so the city has

0:55 ↗ tracked the weather throughout the week

0:56 ↗ and they made the decision around noon

0:58 ↗ today to go ahead and hold tonight's

0:59 ↗ public meeting or public hearing this

1:02 ↗ schedule that we recognize that not

1:04 ↗ everybody or everyone would feel

1:05 ↗ comfortable driving to the meeting and

1:07 ↗ so regardless of that we want to hear

1:10 ↗ your comments and if you aren't able to

1:12 ↗ attend we'd like you to email your

1:14 ↗ comments to the staff at Lucy s at

1:18 ↗ Issaquah Washington gov or you can go on

1:21 ↗ the city website at the development

1:23 ↗ commission page and find her email

1:25 ↗ address there and we'll also take

1:29 ↗ comments at the continuation of the

1:31 ↗ public hearing on Wednesday February 5th

1:33 ↗ that we hope to hear from you sooner

1:36 ↗ rather than later your comments are

1:37 ↗ always welcome and encouraged the sooner

1:41 ↗ we get them the better and more

1:42 ↗ effective we are being able to

1:44 ↗ effectively answer comment on them so I

1:47 ↗ have an administrative process that I

1:49 ↗ have to go through we have some minutes

1:51 ↗ from our December 4th 2019 and a

1:55 ↗ December 18 2019 and the minutes have

1:58 ↗ been sent out in advance of this meeting

2:00 ↗ and I'm presuming that you've all had a

2:01 ↗ chance to read them are there any

2:04 ↗ Corrections or revisions to them no mr.

2:07 ↗ chairman and minutes of December 18 it

2:10 ↗ shows me president of that meeting I was

2:12 ↗ not present at that meeting I believe

2:13 ↗ that maybe a copy/paste can from a

2:16 ↗ previous continuation okay we can make

2:22 ↗ that edit correction so other comments

2:27 ↗ or Corrections hearing only that one

2:31 ↗ will presume that the minutes are

2:34 ↗ approved as edited so let's begin

2:39 ↗ our public area good evening and Happy

2:47 ↗ New Year commissioners Wow it's a full

2:49 ↗ house that's lovely

2:51 ↗ I'm just gonna walk you through the

2:53 ↗ process on quasi judicial review and

2:56 ↗ remind you of the aspects of that a

3:00 ↗ quasi-judicial permit needs to be both

3:03 ↗ be fair and appear fair and so there's

3:06 ↗ certain due process that we follow part

3:10 ↗ of the part of it is procedural meaning

3:13 ↗ that we follow certain procedures that

3:16 ↗ includes notifying people in a certain

3:20 ↗ way and focusing on the decision-makers

3:23 ↗ relationship to the applicant and the

3:26 ↗ second piece has to do with the

3:29 ↗ substantive due process or the substance

3:31 ↗ on which you make your decision and that

3:33 ↗ is adopted regulations and to determine

3:38 ↗ your relationship with the applicant

3:41 ↗ will go through a series of questions so

3:45 ↗ I'd like to have you read through these

3:47 ↗ six questions and then I'll ask for your

3:50 ↗ responses

4:05 ↗ how many people answer no to all the

4:08 ↗ questions super anybody answer yes just

4:13 ↗ for documentation and then the second

4:17 ↗ piece of this has to do with ex parte

4:19 ↗ communication all of our decision making

4:22 ↗ and building of the record associated

4:24 ↗ with this permit needs to be done in a

4:27 ↗ public setting such as this public

4:29 ↗ hearing and so if you've had any email

4:33 ↗ conversations communications about this

4:37 ↗ permit outside of this setting I'd like

4:42 ↗ you to identify that at this time has

4:44 ↗ anyone had any ex parte communication

4:48 ↗ okay is does the applicant challenge any

4:53 ↗ of the commissioners participation

4:57 ↗ that's it thank you I might I might

5:00 ↗ interrupt just for a second just in case

5:02 ↗ you may not know we all have computers

5:04 ↗ on our desk here so it's not like we're

5:06 ↗ ignoring what's on the screen we can

5:07 ↗ fairly conceive it on this screen just

5:09 ↗ so I was thinking that might look kind

5:12 ↗ of weird yeah so you know okay good

5:21 ↗ evening i'm katie cote the project

5:24 ↗ planner for this site development permit

5:27 ↗ before I get started I wanted to mention

5:30 ↗ a couple housekeeping items first of all

5:32 ↗ thank you to those of you who signed in

5:35 ↗ on the sign-in sheet we encourage

5:38 ↗ everyone to sign in if you're not

5:40 ↗ already on our email list if you put

5:42 ↗ your name and email we'll make sure to

5:44 ↗ keep you informed on what's going on

5:47 ↗ with the project and upcoming meetings

5:49 ↗ even if you don't want to speak tonight

5:50 ↗ you can indicate that it'd be great if

5:53 ↗ you could put your name and email on

5:54 ↗ list it's right up there by the podium

5:57 ↗ and then also I wanted to mention

6:01 ↗ quickly in the staff report we noticed

6:03 ↗ there were a couple figure numbers that

6:05 ↗ were incorrect so we apologize if that

6:08 ↗ was confusing hopefully you guys were

6:09 ↗ able to wade through we try our best to

6:11 ↗ make things accurate but sometimes

6:13 ↗ things slip through

6:16 ↗ so this permit tonight is a level-3

6:21 ↗ quasi-judicial judicial permit this is

6:26 ↗ our public notice that we've conducted

6:29 ↗ there has been a notice of application

6:31 ↗ back in April there has been a sign on

6:35 ↗ the site since May it was also updated

6:38 ↗ recently to include the new meeting date

6:40 ↗ for tonight

6:42 ↗ we also published legal notice in the

6:45 ↗ newspaper and sent out legal notice to

6:49 ↗ adjacent property owners as well as the

6:52 ↗ parties of record list when a decision

6:56 ↗ is ultimately made made we will also

6:58 ↗ send a notice of decision out to all the

7:01 ↗ parties of record and the adjacent

7:02 ↗ property owners so the proposed

7:05 ↗ development site is in the talus

7:08 ↗ community it's off of SR 900 and Telus

7:13 ↗ Drive the project was formerly zoned for

7:20 ↗ an office campus as part of the Tallis

7:24 ↗ development agreement it's now zoned as

7:29 ↗ of just this past month it's nasone

7:32 ↗ community facilities facilities which is

7:35 ↗ a zone that allows middle schools

7:41 ↗ existing conditions at the site you can

7:44 ↗ see that the site's been heavily graded

7:48 ↗ this is because the a office development

7:54 ↗ was actually approved for this site as

7:56 ↗ site development permit was approved and

8:00 ↗ that development began site work and

8:02 ↗ then stopped and never one went forward

8:05 ↗ so when the school district purchased

8:07 ↗ the property it had already been graded

8:09 ↗ and they'll do some additional grading

8:12 ↗ to make it work for their school project

8:15 ↗ but it we're not dealing with a site

8:17 ↗ that's in its natural condition

8:23 ↗ so as you can see the site is in red

8:26 ↗ it's at the base of the Tallis community

8:28 ↗ just adjacent to it across Falcon way is

8:31 ↗ the timber ridge residential community

8:35 ↗ talus Drive and Falcon Way intersect at

8:40 ↗ the corner of the property here and I

8:49 ↗ just wanted to take a quick moment to

8:51 ↗ talk about the different codes and

8:53 ↗ regulations that apply to this site

8:55 ↗ because it was originally part of a

8:57 ↗ development agreement the replacement

9:01 ↗ regulations apply to the site and where

9:04 ↗ the talus replacement regulations don't

9:07 ↗ specifically address some specific

9:09 ↗ development standard or element then we

9:13 ↗ look to the central Issaquah standards

9:15 ↗ in most cases and if the development

9:19 ↗ standards aren't specific to address an

9:22 ↗ element we then look to the municipal

9:25 ↗ code so it was a little confusing to

9:28 ↗ know which standard to apply to

9:31 ↗ different development elements but one

9:34 ↗ of the attachments of the SAP report is

9:37 ↗ an interpretation memo where staff tried

9:40 ↗ to be very clear about which parts of

9:43 ↗ the code were applying to different

9:44 ↗ parts of the development

9:49 ↗ the city of it squads not the CEPA

9:52 ↗ authority on this project so we did not

9:53 ↗ conduct the sefer review the is the

9:56 ↗ quest school district is the CEPA lead

9:58 ↗ and at this point they haven't concluded

10:00 ↗ their SEPA process they're still working

10:03 ↗ on that and we understand they hope to

10:05 ↗ complete it soon but at this point we've

10:09 ↗ helped we've commented on their draft

10:12 ↗ SEPA checklist which we included with

10:14 ↗ the staff report as well and we're

10:17 ↗ hopeful that a determination will be

10:20 ↗ made before we meet again in February

10:24 ↗ during the public comment period for the

10:28 ↗ notice of application sent out by the

10:30 ↗ city and since then we've collected some

10:33 ↗ comments mostly around traffic safety

10:36 ↗ bus routing pedestrian access to the

10:40 ↗ site and some items discussing the

10:44 ↗ aesthetics of the project and I'll talk

10:47 ↗ about each of these later in my

10:48 ↗ presentation so here is the site plan

10:53 ↗ the proposed middle school is built into

10:58 ↗ the slope so there's a pretty

11:00 ↗ significant grade change from the top of

11:02 ↗ the site to the bottom it's about a

11:03 ↗ hundred and fifty feet of grade change

11:05 ↗ so the the middle school takes advantage

11:09 ↗ of that by being a shorter building at

11:12 ↗ the top of the site and then a much

11:14 ↗ taller building at the bottom a track

11:18 ↗ here there is it this is a multi-use

11:22 ↗ athletic field with a track it's located

11:25 ↗ sort of maybe thirty feet below this

11:29 ↗ road here we'll look at sections in a

11:32 ↗ moment but just to give you an idea of

11:34 ↗ the cascading down this is a structured

11:39 ↗ parking lot at the corner and this here

11:43 ↗ is the site's primary passenger entrance

11:47 ↗ so parents dropping off and picking up

11:50 ↗ kids will come in here we'll proceed

11:53 ↗ down this aisle

11:56 ↗ and loop around and then drop off kids

12:00 ↗ at this plaza level here the bus traffic

12:05 ↗ will come up Tallis and on to Falcon way

12:10 ↗ they will also do a loop around and then

12:13 ↗ queue up here where kids will get on and

12:17 ↗ or get off and for those travelling to

12:19 ↗ to and from the school this is a bridge

12:22 ↗ that connects them so they don't have to

12:24 ↗ go down and cross this pedestrian or the

12:28 ↗ passenger drop-off area and finally the

12:31 ↗ third access point is down at the bottom

12:32 ↗ of the site this is just for emergency

12:35 ↗ and services and will be signed and

12:37 ↗ gated to prevent general use and parents

12:41 ↗ are using that as a drop-off location in

12:44 ↗ addition to the to the pedestrian

12:48 ↗ accesses that come off of this a falcon

12:51 ↗ way and off of Telus Drive there's a

12:54 ↗ trail the bottom of the site this is an

12:58 ↗ extension of the existing trail system

13:01 ↗ and it travels from Falcon way down to

13:05 ↗ Telus Drive it's relatively steep

13:08 ↗ there's several there's lots of stairs

13:09 ↗ so this isn't envisioned as a biking

13:12 ↗ trail it's very much just a walking

13:14 ↗ trail so the the site itself is about

13:20 ↗ nine acres the school district has said

13:24 ↗ that the school will be built for a

13:26 ↗ capacity of about 900 students and 80

13:28 ↗ staff members the main story had

13:31 ↗ remained school building has six stories

13:33 ↗ as I mentioned the parking garage has

13:34 ↗ two levels and we just wanted to call

13:40 ↗ out that the capacity of 900 students

13:43 ↗ assumes that all of the instruction will

13:46 ↗ happen in the actual school building

13:48 ↗ there isn't any place where portables

13:50 ↗ are proposed at this point and the 80

13:55 ↗ staff member is also what we used in

13:58 ↗ calculating things like the parking

14:01 ↗ requirement

14:03 ↗ so in terms of the basic development

14:07 ↗ standards the project complies with

14:09 ↗ floor area ratio height setbacks the

14:13 ↗ build to line and impervious surface the

14:16 ↗ build to line is measured from the this

14:21 ↗ portion of where's my girl this northern

14:24 ↗ portion of the access drive this is the

14:28 ↗ street frontage that will have the most

14:31 ↗ the best relationship with the school

14:32 ↗ itself the grade change between Falcon

14:35 ↗ Way and the school is it's too steep to

14:38 ↗ make that a true relationship with the

14:40 ↗ building so the bill to line is or the

14:44 ↗ bill to line requirement is 20 feet or

14:47 ↗ other architectural Plaza and

14:49 ↗ landscaping elements so they meet that

14:51 ↗ by by locating the garage in the

14:54 ↗ building close to the street and then

14:56 ↗ building this landscaped Plaza with

14:59 ↗ canopies this is also the area where

15:01 ↗ bike parking will take place and this

15:04 ↗ landscaping makes up that requirement

15:06 ↗ here

15:10 ↗ so the as I mentioned there's quite a

15:13 ↗ bit of grade change across the site

15:16 ↗ several retaining walls are needed to

15:20 ↗ create the large flat areas that will be

15:23 ↗ needed for the athletic field and for

15:25 ↗ the parking garage and some of the other

15:27 ↗ the circulation routes we wanted to make

15:31 ↗ sure that the street wall here although

15:34 ↗ it's not relating to a building that it

15:37 ↗ still provides a human-scale Street wall

15:41 ↗ to a falcon here so we're requiring that

15:45 ↗ that not only at the barrier the fall

15:49 ↗ barrier be put there but that it be a

15:50 ↗ decorative decorative fencing or a

15:54 ↗ street wall element with landscaping

15:55 ↗ that provides that human scale in the

15:58 ↗ public realm this shows how the how that

16:08 ↗ the site terrace is down from falcon

16:11 ↗ wave the top to the bus loop to the drop

16:16 ↗ off loop and then down to the track and

16:18 ↗ field with the pedestrian access bridge

16:21 ↗ here you can see

16:30 ↗ there are several walls on this site

16:33 ↗ that were proposed taller than the code

16:38 ↗ would allow this was necessary because

16:41 ↗ of the large grade changes and so the

16:43 ↗ applicant is asked for administrative

16:46 ↗ adjustment of standards to allow taller

16:48 ↗ walls and and larger grading fill and

16:52 ↗ grading and they've been granted that

16:54 ↗ we've approved that and that's in the

16:56 ↗ staff report as well and the actual

17:00 ↗ appearance of the walls is not in the

17:03 ↗ purview of the city it's under the

17:06 ↗ purview of the architectural review

17:08 ↗ committee the Tallis architectural

17:10 ↗ review committee the city will review

17:12 ↗ all of the walls to make sure that

17:13 ↗ they're structurally safe and that they

17:15 ↗ meet engineering standards as well as

17:18 ↗ things like height and screening but the

17:22 ↗ appearance of the walls will be approved

17:26 ↗ by the AR C so they're contemplating

17:29 ↗ walls that that support this mountain

17:32 ↗ village aesthetic that's approved for

17:34 ↗ the Telus community

17:35 ↗ and there are different wall types that

17:38 ↗ are proposed for different locations and

17:42 ↗ when the applicant presents they may

17:44 ↗ talk a little bit more about those

17:46 ↗ specifically

17:52 ↗ so again this is just providing

17:56 ↗ additional information on the AAS and so

18:03 ↗ vehicular circulation as I mentioned is

18:06 ↗ there are three access ways and three

18:09 ↗ driveways the the code standard that

18:15 ↗ applies to this northern portion of the

18:20 ↗ the passenger drop-off is required to be

18:24 ↗ the neighborhood street standard in the

18:26 ↗ central Issaquah design development

18:29 ↗ design guidelines and the same standard

18:33 ↗ applies to a falcon way except that we

18:37 ↗ heard some comment from Timber Ridge

18:38 ↗ that they were concerned about the

18:41 ↗ narrowness of that the lanes it's a

18:43 ↗ 10-foot Lane standard and they were

18:45 ↗ concerned that with bus the heavy bus

18:47 ↗ usage there that an 11 foot Lane might

18:51 ↗ make more sense so we're encouraging the

18:55 ↗ applicant to seek an a as to approve a

19:00 ↗ variation to that width of the Lane just

19:03 ↗ along the way here so it would it would

19:08 ↗ apply to this portion of Falcon way just

19:11 ↗ until the bus driveway and then this

19:17 ↗ portion of the passenger drop-off area

19:19 ↗ would would need to meet the 10-foot

19:21 ↗ standard

19:23 ↗ the emergency access drive will meet a

19:27 ↗ different standard than then these other

19:30 ↗ two according to code there's just

19:39 ↗ another depiction of the way the site's

19:42 ↗ circulation works whips the yellow

19:49 ↗ highlighted areas here will be the

19:52 ↗ drop-off zones for both for passenger

19:55 ↗ and bus that's the area that will be

19:58 ↗ reserved for the queuing of those

19:59 ↗ vehicles

20:03 ↗ we also heard some public comment

20:05 ↗ earlier in the project with concerns

20:07 ↗ that cars leaving this the primary

20:12 ↗ access Drive would need to take a right

20:15 ↗ travel all the way down and tell us and

20:17 ↗ then take a u-turn in order to go up the

20:19 ↗ hill

20:20 ↗ that's not necessary this is this will

20:24 ↗ be designed to allow left turn to go up

20:25 ↗ Telus Drive and in fact a traffic signal

20:30 ↗ is proposed there which I'll get to in a

20:31 ↗ moment so we have required a traffic

20:39 ↗ impact analysis to be prepared for this

20:43 ↗ site and the result of that analysis was

20:48 ↗ to propose a traffic signal at the

20:51 ↗ primary access point here and again I'll

20:55 ↗ let the applicant talk a little bit more

20:57 ↗ about that in detail but the primary

21:02 ↗ concerns were school speed maintaining

21:06 ↗ an appropriate school speed zone in this

21:08 ↗ area when children are present and then

21:11 ↗ managing that churning movements from

21:14 ↗ talis drive onto the site and also it's

21:17 ↗ not on this slide unfortunately but

21:19 ↗ looking very closely at the SR 900

21:22 ↗ intersection with Dallas Drive to make

21:24 ↗ sure that during the busiest times of

21:26 ↗ the day that that intersection doesn't

21:28 ↗ result in queuing that extends too long

21:32 ↗ in addition to mitigation that came out

21:36 ↗ of the

21:37 ↗ we conduct analysis we're also requiring

21:38 ↗ the applicant to provide a construction

21:41 ↗ management plan to address traffic

21:43 ↗ during the construction phase and

21:46 ↗ address lane closures flagging on site

21:49 ↗ worker parking notifying the community

21:51 ↗ of days when maybe there could be more

21:54 ↗ closures and as we've done with other

21:59 ↗ projects will require normal updates so

22:03 ↗ the city's website and perhaps even the

22:05 ↗ applicants website to provide a way for

22:07 ↗ the community to know what's going on

22:14 ↗ the pedestrian circulation as I

22:16 ↗ mentioned there's there these blue

22:19 ↗ arrows are all the different ways you

22:20 ↗ can get onto the site as a walker the

22:24 ↗ red arrow here is the primary bike

22:27 ↗ access we are recognizing that we don't

22:30 ↗ want to ask middle schoolers to share

22:33 ↗ the road with cars middle school bikers

22:36 ↗ so we've asked the applicant to widen

22:38 ↗ this sidewalk here to 10 feet to allow

22:41 ↗ plenty of space for people to come onto

22:43 ↗ the site and then once they get to this

22:46 ↗ point where things narrow up due to the

22:48 ↗ location of the building they'll walk

22:49 ↗ their bikes to the parking area here and

22:55 ↗ there are several ways to get onto the

22:58 ↗ site as a walker many of them require

23:03 ↗ walking up a lot of hills so there was

23:08 ↗ also a comment from the public asking

23:10 ↗ whether there would be a sidewalk put on

23:13 ↗ the northern side of talus here that's

23:17 ↗ not part of the project the there will

23:20 ↗ be as I said a traffic light here that

23:22 ↗ would allow crossing of the of the

23:25 ↗ driveway access but it's not envisioned

23:27 ↗ that we would be having students cross

23:29 ↗ talus

23:33 ↗ it's a little bit more about the trail

23:35 ↗ the trail had a small pathway here that

23:41 ↗ would connect between the trail and the

23:44 ↗ school site we felt that it got a little

23:46 ↗ bit lost in this turnaround area so we

23:49 ↗ have asked the applicant to add in a

23:51 ↗ crossing in a trail to clearly mark the

23:55 ↗ pedestrian path from the trail to the

23:58 ↗ school's sidewalk there so parking

24:07 ↗ parking was an area that we also

24:09 ↗ received a lot of public comment on

24:11 ↗ neighbors were concerned that parking

24:14 ↗ could spill out from the school site and

24:17 ↗ fill up neighboring streets so the we

24:23 ↗ asked the applicant to prepare a parking

24:26 ↗ demand study we wanted to understand

24:28 ↗ what the actual demand for parking would

24:30 ↗ be at a middle school site like this so

24:33 ↗ the traffic engineers studied a couple

24:35 ↗ different middle schools in the area and

24:37 ↗ watched their pattern of parking usage

24:40 ↗ and determined that 81 spaces was an

24:44 ↗ appropriate minimum parking standard to

24:47 ↗ accommodate normal days with staff and

24:50 ↗ volunteers and other comings and goings

24:52 ↗ at the site so the they're actually

24:56 ↗ proposing 122 spaces which meets that

25:00 ↗ with an additional buffer and they're

25:03 ↗ also meeting the other parking loading

25:06 ↗ for parking and loading standards for

25:09 ↗ motorcycles bikes and other types of

25:12 ↗ parking but I did want to talk a little

25:14 ↗ bit more about where they're providing

25:16 ↗ their parking and how parking will take

25:20 ↗ place during special events so the

25:24 ↗ parking garage has 99 spaces that will

25:27 ↗ always be available there's a parking

25:30 ↗ area down at the south part of the site

25:32 ↗ that has 23 spaces that will always be

25:34 ↗ available and then there are 39 flex

25:37 ↗ spaces that when the buses are

25:40 ↗ or when vehicles are queuing up to drop

25:45 ↗ off and pick up kids those will not be

25:47 ↗ available but when those when those

25:50 ↗ loading times are not happening or

25:52 ↗ during special events those can

25:54 ↗ transition to parking spaces so between

25:57 ↗ the temporary flex spaces and then the

26:00 ↗ two permanent

26:01 ↗ areas there's a hundred and twenty two

26:04 ↗ spaces a lot is that right

26:07 ↗ I want to make sure I'm getting my math

26:08 ↗ right it's more than that 201 hundred

26:13 ↗ and sixty-one okay under 61 thank you so

26:18 ↗ we've asked for some additional work to

26:23 ↗ solidify a plan for special events

26:27 ↗ they proposed several different

26:29 ↗ strategies for dealing with special

26:31 ↗ events where there's more parking and it

26:34 ↗ seems that with most events that this

26:36 ↗ amount of parking will work it'll meet

26:39 ↗ the demand there may be one or two

26:41 ↗ events where it doesn't so we're looking

26:44 ↗ at potentially identifying another lot

26:46 ↗ that could be shuttled to and from or

26:50 ↗ using flaggers or a permit system and

26:52 ↗ again I'll look that we can talk a

26:54 ↗ little bit more about those strategies

26:55 ↗ but we're still working on firming up

26:58 ↗ kind of a worst case scenario parking

27:01 ↗ plan for a special event

27:07 ↗ so as I mentioned the architect

27:09 ↗ architectural review committee has the

27:13 ↗ purview over the building's aesthetics

27:15 ↗ so if you think of it as as kind of the

27:17 ↗ aesthetics the materials and finishes

27:20 ↗ that's in their purview but the city is

27:24 ↗ still looking at buildings for

27:26 ↗ compliance with height and general urban

27:29 ↗ design character the general character

27:32 ↗ isn't meeting that mountain village that

27:35 ↗ mountain village standard and things

27:38 ↗ like visual impact and screening and

27:40 ↗ safety so one of the things we looked at

27:43 ↗ were reviews and relationships with

27:45 ↗ other properties so this is a can see in

27:48 ↗ this perspective

27:49 ↗ Timber Ridge here up on the hill this

27:52 ↗ would be the relationship between the

27:54 ↗ field and that development this here is

27:58 ↗ a retaining wall or a series of

28:01 ↗ retaining walls we will require

28:04 ↗ screening where they're where they are

28:07 ↗ taller than four feet and then you can

28:11 ↗ also see here a fence

28:14 ↗ the replacement regulations for talus

28:18 ↗ don't allow chain-link fence

28:20 ↗ unless it's needed for safety this is

28:22 ↗ proposed to be a black chain-link fence

28:25 ↗ though because the school has proposed

28:28 ↗ that that's actually the safest material

28:30 ↗ to put right alongside a track because

28:32 ↗ it has some give if someone were to run

28:34 ↗ into it and it has a smooth surface that

28:36 ↗ won't get caught so we are allowing that

28:40 ↗ material just along the track and

28:42 ↗ field's so here's the views of the

28:47 ↗ project from timber Ridge

28:53 ↗ and a section showing how the site steps

28:57 ↗ down from the timber Ridge at the top

29:00 ↗ here to the fire lane at the bottom

29:06 ↗ there were three blank walls that we

29:09 ↗ identified that we're longer than 30

29:11 ↗ feet and require screening or

29:13 ↗ architectural treatment so there is a

29:15 ↗ condition we put in for that this is the

29:18 ↗ north and south elevations of the of the

29:20 ↗ school building and I'll let the

29:22 ↗ applicant talk a little bit more about

29:23 ↗ the building itself but this is these

29:29 ↗ are locations where they provided

29:32 ↗ mechanical screening of their equipment

29:34 ↗ on the roofs and as I mentioned fencing

29:39 ↗ is also in our purview and we've we will

29:43 ↗ continue to work with them to figure out

29:45 ↗ exactly that the correct fencing design

29:48 ↗ for the locations where fencing is

29:52 ↗ needed for fall protection and for

29:55 ↗ providing street wall

30:01 ↗ for landscaping we are looking at things

30:04 ↗ like plant spacing general mountain

30:08 ↗ village character and standards for

30:12 ↗ parking lot interior landscaping

30:14 ↗ percentages for that the AARC would be

30:18 ↗ they would be looking at specific plants

30:21 ↗ plant type selection that would be in

30:23 ↗ their purview or plant mix and we would

30:27 ↗ want to make sure that in general it met

30:28 ↗ that mountain village character so this

30:33 ↗ is you can see here the evergreen

30:35 ↗ landscaping and lower shrubs that they

30:37 ↗ proposed here this corner is the corner

30:43 ↗ of Falcon and talus this is a corner

30:45 ↗ that's going to receive special

30:46 ↗ treatment just because of its of its

30:49 ↗ it's a focal point coming into the site

30:52 ↗ so they've proposed doing some some

30:56 ↗ pedestrian amenities maybe some

30:59 ↗ sculptural rock or some benches or

31:01 ↗ something like that

31:05 ↗ the site is providing they meet their

31:09 ↗ minimum tree density requirement the

31:11 ↗ minimum is two hundred five trees and

31:14 ↗ they provided three hundred nine they do

31:17 ↗ not meet the tree retention requirement

31:19 ↗ this site was cleared pretty heavily

31:21 ↗ before they purchased the property but

31:23 ↗ there still were trees on site and

31:26 ↗ they're required to preserve 25 percent

31:29 ↗ of the significant tree diameter and

31:32 ↗ they're proposing to save fifteen

31:34 ↗ percent and they've sought an AAS for

31:38 ↗ that which was approved with the

31:40 ↗ condition that they look at whether they

31:42 ↗ might be able to save smaller trees

31:45 ↗ smaller groupings of trees that would

31:48 ↗ meet that the remaining caliper images

31:51 ↗ they need to get to that 25 percent so

31:53 ↗ with tree with the tree tension

31:56 ↗ calculations were looking at larger

31:58 ↗ trees primarily six inches in larger and

32:01 ↗ so we're saying there's a there's a

32:03 ↗ criteria and code that allows when you

32:06 ↗ are when you can save small a grouping

32:09 ↗ of smaller trees that make up that same

32:11 ↗ diameter inches you can reduce the

32:14 ↗ retention requirement so in this these

32:19 ↗ are the trees they're saving in the

32:21 ↗ circles here there's three trees and

32:23 ↗ then those make up 50 of the 84 required

32:27 ↗ inches and the applicant is looking at

32:30 ↗ this area here to see if they can make

32:32 ↗ up the additional 34 inches required

32:35 ↗ with smaller trees and it seems like

32:37 ↗ that that they can probably get close to

32:39 ↗ doing that so the track will have

32:46 ↗ exterior lighting this is a picture of

32:50 ↗ the type of light that's being proposed

32:52 ↗ for the site we are asking that the

32:56 ↗ we're asking that sefa conditions be

33:00 ↗ applied that would limit lighting to no

33:03 ↗ later than 8 p.m. and no amplified sound

33:07 ↗ at the field and this is something that

33:09 ↗ the code doesn't directly address so it

33:12 ↗ is appropriate that it's addressed

33:14 ↗ through Seba

33:16 ↗ the lighting themselves although they

33:18 ↗ will be tall actually are still below

33:22 ↗ the street level of Falcon here this

33:24 ↗ orange line is the top of the light so

33:28 ↗ it will not be a visual impact to Tim

33:31 ↗ Burrage if they're looking straight they

33:33 ↗ will be able to see the field as we saw

33:35 ↗ from those other perspectives but the

33:38 ↗ lighting fixtures are required to be

33:40 ↗ focus downcast with shielding to reduce

33:43 ↗ off-site glare

33:49 ↗ the the site has an existing stormwater

33:53 ↗ pond but the site drainage is going to

33:58 ↗ be completely changed and retention

34:02 ↗ vault will be placed under the athletic

34:04 ↗ field so all the site will drain to this

34:07 ↗ location here

34:12 ↗ and here is the school as it as you see

34:18 ↗ it from s or 900 so I just wanted to

34:23 ↗ mention before I and that if you're

34:26 ↗ interested in comment and please sign in

34:27 ↗ on the sign-in sheet and if you're

34:29 ↗ interested in just receiving emails

34:31 ↗ please sign in as well so we'll get a

34:39 ↗ presentation from the applicant thank

34:57 ↗ you for the opportunity to present in

34:59 ↗ front of you tonight my name is Rebecca

35:01 ↗ Bay back I'm principal architect with

35:03 ↗ Integris architecture and we are

35:06 ↗ extremely excited to not only be here

35:08 ↗ with you tonight but to be the

35:09 ↗ architects for this project our firm has

35:12 ↗ a 67 year history doing civic facilities

35:16 ↗ with really a focus on educational

35:19 ↗ facilities so we take very seriously the

35:22 ↗ responsibility that the school district

35:24 ↗ has given us tonight and want to kind of

35:26 ↗ walk you through our process there's a

35:28 ↗ little bit of overlap with what the

35:30 ↗ city's already presented so I'll try to

35:32 ↗ cover those items quickly in addition to

35:35 ↗ myself here tonight we've got

35:37 ↗ representatives from the school district

35:39 ↗ capital projects team Kim Young who I

35:41 ↗ believe is on your agenda has been my

35:43 ↗ partner in crime as we've been leading

35:45 ↗ this team on this project we have our

35:48 ↗ construction partner here with

35:49 ↗ Cornerstone construction or landscape

35:51 ↗ architect and our traffic engineer so as

35:54 ↗ there are questions we have the team

35:55 ↗ here to assist in responding so we're

35:59 ↗ gonna walk through a few items that have

36:01 ↗ been covered and a few others were going

36:03 ↗ to try to address a little bit more

36:04 ↗ detail as was mentioned we have gotten

36:07 ↗ some comments through our community

36:09 ↗ process and we want to try to continue

36:11 ↗ to evolve the design and respond to

36:13 ↗ those as we hear them to begin with an

36:17 ↗ overview of the site as was mentioned

36:20 ↗ you know there's a lot of factors

36:22 ↗ and developing this site and we really

36:25 ↗ appreciate Ken and brookie from the

36:27 ↗ Tallis community that has really

36:29 ↗ dedicated a lot of time in addition the

36:31 ↗ city of this COIs and really helping us

36:33 ↗ develop the approach to this site and

36:36 ↗ we'll walk you through really

36:37 ↗ specifically how some of those influence

36:40 ↗ has developed in this facility I'm not

36:44 ↗ going to spend a lot of time with the

36:45 ↗ details but it is a new 145 thousand

36:48 ↗ square foot facility for 900 students

36:50 ↗ and we get a lot of questions about

36:53 ↗ where the students are going to come

36:54 ↗ from for this school and how we're going

36:56 ↗ to determine that process and the

36:59 ↗ Issaquah School District has identified

37:01 ↗ that they're going to begin a rebounding

37:03 ↗ process in the spring of 2020 so just in

37:06 ↗ a few months now and they're beginning

37:08 ↗ to put the team together for that

37:10 ↗ process so if you get asked questions or

37:13 ↗ if you're interested please check out

37:15 ↗ the school district website for more

37:16 ↗ information as we look at the site I

37:20 ↗ want to just highlight a few of the

37:22 ↗ features a lot of them were covered

37:24 ↗ about how the vehicles were going to

37:25 ↗ access the site and we talked a lot I've

37:29 ↗ got to find my arrow here I'm used to

37:30 ↗ having a laser pointer so we talked a

37:34 ↗ little bit about the parent drop-off for

37:36 ↗ the site the bus access on the site and

37:40 ↗ the emergency vehicle sites so the 11

37:44 ↗ foot lanes that were talked about the

37:46 ↗ widening that we're going to do on

37:47 ↗ Falcon Drive is from this access point

37:49 ↗ for those buses directly up onto Falcon

37:52 ↗ and just to look at that a little bit

37:53 ↗ larger on the site it helps to kind of

37:56 ↗ see it larger than life for those you

37:58 ↗ can see the big screen sorry this is

38:01 ↗ taking me a minute to get used to this

38:02 ↗ arrow thing

38:06 ↗ well I'll just talk with words I have

38:09 ↗ them late you have a laser okay that

38:12 ↗ would help thank you so as we look at

38:14 ↗ the enlarged plan of the north end of

38:16 ↗ the site I just want to talk about how

38:19 ↗ long some of these queue areas are so

38:21 ↗ the queue area there you go thank you so

38:27 ↗ the queue area is 1700 feet long for the

38:30 ↗ parents that queue on the site and when

38:33 ↗ you look at the enlarged plan it really

38:34 ↗ helps to kind of see it larger and they

38:37 ↗ they come down and they use this

38:38 ↗ roundabout and then they get back into

38:41 ↗ this queue and really providing a place

38:44 ↗ for that amount of queuing was really

38:46 ↗ important the trail is one of the

38:49 ↗ community amenities on the south end of

38:51 ↗ the site here and the field itself also

38:54 ↗ is a community amenity and there was

38:56 ↗ some question at a community meeting

38:57 ↗ about how the access to that field is

38:59 ↗ for those who want to use it it will be

39:02 ↗ restricted to school use during the

39:04 ↗ school day for those 900 students but

39:07 ↗ the district has an established policy

39:08 ↗ that allows the public to get a keycard

39:10 ↗ access to the site and they can use it

39:12 ↗ when it is lit obviously they don't want

39:15 ↗ folks on the field when it's not safe to

39:17 ↗ be there when there's no light so and

39:21 ↗ then the bus loop area we've talked

39:24 ↗ quite a bit about so I'll continue on

39:26 ↗ from that area and I wanted to make some

39:32 ↗ of you may have just seen that orange

39:33 ↗ square come up here I want to just take

39:34 ↗ a moment and walk you through the

39:35 ↗ building as architects this site with a

39:39 ↗ 150 foot elevation change is a really

39:42 ↗ interesting challenge and so just to go

39:44 ↗ back for one minute as we're looking at

39:46 ↗ that field and that's the student access

39:49 ↗ and connection to the building this

39:50 ↗ orange corner right here is where the

39:52 ↗ gymnasiums are and they have a balcony

39:55 ↗ that comes out in stairs that go

39:56 ↗ directly down to the field so our

39:59 ↗ gymnasium is on the first floor we have

40:01 ↗ a main gym with an auxilary gym and a

40:03 ↗ fitness room and then some classroom

40:05 ↗ areas and then our service components

40:08 ↗ begin to kind of tucked into that

40:10 ↗ hillside as we move up through the

40:13 ↗ building to the second floor taking

40:15 ↗ advantage of the two-story volume that

40:18 ↗ our

40:18 ↗ take adjacent to it we have our locker

40:20 ↗ room spaces this light yellow that you

40:23 ↗ see on the plan that is our corridors

40:25 ↗ and these green areas are science

40:27 ↗ classrooms and then that bluish gray

40:30 ↗ those are general classrooms and we have

40:33 ↗ our primary circulation with stairwells

40:35 ↗ right in this corner of the building and

40:38 ↗ you'll see that in the building

40:39 ↗ expression and at the north and there is

40:42 ↗ a primary stairwell that you see

40:43 ↗ expressed through the building

40:45 ↗ continuing up to the third floor which

40:48 ↗ we affectionately refer to as the main

40:50 ↗ floor is where students that are

40:52 ↗ approaching the site this was discussed

40:54 ↗ to buy a bike or but walking on to the

40:56 ↗ site the front door is right opposite

40:59 ↗ our two-story parking structure which is

41:02 ↗ across the main road that snakes through

41:05 ↗ the site here our administration is this

41:08 ↗ orange area with counseling off to the

41:10 ↗ side that really provide the supervision

41:13 ↗ for those areas of the site and also

41:16 ↗ because of the office nature we have a

41:18 ↗ really nice texture of windows along

41:21 ↗ that edge and then the classrooms

41:23 ↗ continue in the wing to the upper right

41:25 ↗ hand side we have some special programs

41:28 ↗ that are along that edge and then the

41:31 ↗ Grand kind of space as you walk through

41:34 ↗ the entry is our cafeteria Commons that

41:36 ↗ really takes advantage of those views

41:39 ↗ out to the south the kitchen is directly

41:42 ↗ adjacent to that space and there's an

41:44 ↗ exterior area with our covered play so

41:48 ↗ students that are arriving if they get

41:50 ↗ dropped off of the bus lane they are

41:52 ↗ able to come into this area a few of

41:55 ↗ them may have the opportunity to come

41:56 ↗ directly to the covered play and then

41:59 ↗ students that arrive with the pedestrian

42:00 ↗ bridge and the next level I'll show you

42:02 ↗ they'll come down some stairs and arrive

42:04 ↗ at that covered play area so we have a

42:06 ↗ really large covered gathering area for

42:09 ↗ our students if they arrive outside of

42:10 ↗ school hours and then we have a stage

42:13 ↗ platform area that then allows us

42:15 ↗ building to be a community benefit after

42:18 ↗ school hours as well for those large

42:20 ↗ group functions continuing up in the

42:24 ↗ building to the fourth floor we have

42:26 ↗ additional classrooms that are on either

42:28 ↗ side of this yellow corridor and then

42:30 ↗ directly

42:31 ↗ off this yellow corridor to my left is

42:34 ↗ the bridge that connects to a covered

42:37 ↗ waiting area right along the bus loop

42:40 ↗ area and so there's a generous sidewalk

42:43 ↗ for our students as well as a little

42:46 ↗ covered area and the school

42:48 ↗ administration has told us that they

42:49 ↗ work very closely to make sure that

42:51 ↗ though buses are there and so students

42:53 ↗ will go directly onto those buses at the

42:55 ↗ end of the school day and then

42:58 ↗ continuing up to the top floor of the

43:00 ↗ building we've taken advantage of the

43:03 ↗ spectacular views that you have from the

43:05 ↗ east side of the building with our

43:07 ↗ locating our library there's which is

43:08 ↗ where these different color shapes are

43:10 ↗ that's all library space and our music

43:12 ↗ classrooms we also have our art room and

43:15 ↗ our staff room up on the upper level so

43:19 ↗ that just gives you an overview of how

43:21 ↗ we're fitting 900 students on this site

43:23 ↗ along with the track and field in

43:26 ↗ development of a building as was

43:28 ↗ mentioned we really need to put a bring

43:31 ↗ a lot of factors together in the design

43:33 ↗ of the building as architects were not

43:36 ↗ only responding to building codes and

43:38 ↗ the clients expectations for durability

43:41 ↗ they remind us frequently that we're

43:43 ↗ designing a 50-year building that really

43:46 ↗ is going to be a part of this community

43:48 ↗ for a long time we also are thinking

43:51 ↗ about the city's expectations for zoning

43:54 ↗ and how we must set the building with

43:56 ↗ the grades of the site we've been

43:58 ↗ working with the architectural review

44:00 ↗ committee specifically David Mead who

44:03 ↗ represents the tailless homeowners

44:05 ↗ association in that process and really

44:08 ↗ thinking about the materials and as

44:10 ↗ we've gone through the material

44:12 ↗ selections for this process we've been

44:15 ↗ thinking about how do we create texture

44:17 ↗ on this building and really provide that

44:20 ↗ longevity and being good stewards of

44:21 ↗ those resources so a majority of the

44:24 ↗ building is going to be there'll be a

44:26 ↗ lot of masonry units on the building

44:29 ↗ we've got two different colors so those

44:31 ↗ are like concrete block but we're using

44:32 ↗ a thinner profile and then we've got a

44:35 ↗ lot of metal panel with some different

44:37 ↗ widths and depths to get some really

44:38 ↗ nice shadow lines and nice trim pieces

44:40 ↗ we're also bringing in a phenolic panel

44:44 ↗ that

44:44 ↗ it's the longevity that the school

44:46 ↗ district expects but brings in the wood

44:48 ↗ character in wood paneling and so you'll

44:50 ↗ see that on the elevations and then we

44:52 ↗ have some other areas where particularly

44:55 ↗ at entry areas where we've clad the

44:57 ↗ steel structure with wood to really give

44:59 ↗ it that mountain feel we're walking that

45:02 ↗ line between creating that civic

45:04 ↗ facility that really speaks to the

45:06 ↗ campus feel for the the this type of

45:10 ↗ facility and the expectations that are

45:13 ↗ different for some of the residential

45:14 ↗ buildings that are built in this

45:15 ↗ community so as we look at it with a

45:19 ↗ little bit more detail this is an

45:20 ↗ architectural axonometric some of you

45:23 ↗ who are used to looking at this it's

45:25 ↗ pretty familiar others it looks a little

45:26 ↗ funny because like we sliced the

45:27 ↗ building but you can see where we've

45:29 ↗ really integrated a lot of Windows to

45:31 ↗ all of our teaching spaces so that

45:33 ↗ there'll be great daylight for these

45:34 ↗ buildings the CMU veer veneer as I

45:38 ↗ mentioned it's a four by 16 piece so

45:40 ↗ it's real thin that provides a lot of

45:43 ↗ texture and durability at the lower

45:45 ↗ levels and then metal panel and then

45:48 ↗ that wood phenolic panel and you'll see

45:50 ↗ those materials used on the exterior of

45:53 ↗ the building as I mentioned we're also

45:57 ↗ building a parking structure and so we

45:59 ↗ wanted to parallel a lot of the

46:01 ↗ materials to really create that campus

46:03 ↗ feel that college like campus feel so

46:05 ↗ we've got the same masonry veneer units

46:07 ↗ and metal panels applied to those

46:09 ↗ components of the building as well and

46:12 ↗ we do have the actual materials here for

46:14 ↗ those that are not in the room some

46:16 ↗ people may be able to look at them

46:18 ↗ because sometimes colors are distorted

46:19 ↗ and digital images this is a view that

46:22 ↗ you saw earlier but I really wanted to

46:24 ↗ highlight how the wood is used to

46:26 ↗ highlight the entry so as you are

46:29 ↗ walking down that primary sidewalk tour

46:31 ↗ the front of the building the wood

46:33 ↗ provides that cue of where that entry is

46:35 ↗ the canopies a little obscured by the

46:37 ↗ trees but that's all wood clad structure

46:39 ↗ and the underside of that canopy and in

46:41 ↗ this area and then we've got wood clad

46:44 ↗ structure at the overhangs on the

46:46 ↗ building and we've worked with all the

46:49 ↗ parties that I've mentioned to really

46:51 ↗ look at some of the slopes of the

46:52 ↗ building and really stepping in the

46:54 ↗ building and breaking down these walls

46:56 ↗ there's a couple places that we're doing

46:58 ↗ a little bit more work but we've been

47:00 ↗ putting a lot of study into this

47:02 ↗ development just to give you a couple

47:06 ↗ more views of the building so this is as

47:07 ↗ we're going up talis Drive you can see

47:10 ↗ how well screen the parking structure is

47:12 ↗ and it really tucks into that hillside

47:15 ↗ the topography really allows us to draw

47:18 ↗ your eye towards the building and the

47:20 ↗ views for the building and then as we

47:24 ↗ step back as you're approaching the

47:26 ↗ building from Falcon you can see kind of

47:28 ↗ some early imagery around some of the

47:30 ↗ landscaping you can see that the covered

47:32 ↗ play area that I mentioned you are able

47:35 ↗ to look right above that we brought in

47:38 ↗ the exposed rafters at the covered play

47:41 ↗ area as well continuing around the site

47:46 ↗ so I think it's always fun if you

47:47 ↗ imagine yourself up at the timber timber

47:49 ↗ Ridge Plaza and you're looking across as

47:52 ↗ the site is developed and the how the

47:53 ↗ buses really do disappear from view

47:56 ↗ again where the topography really gives

47:59 ↗ us some unique vantage points the track

48:02 ↗ obviously has its presence and the

48:04 ↗ building with all of its green

48:06 ↗ mechanical units this is the covered

48:09 ↗ play that I mentioned you'll see just

48:12 ↗ right in this location where the covered

48:14 ↗ waiting at the bus area is located and

48:17 ↗ then you can see the parking structure

48:19 ↗ off to the left then a view of the

48:25 ↗ building from Falcon Way and again at

48:28 ↗ the overhangs we brought in the wood

48:30 ↗ structure there so this is at the

48:31 ↗ cafeteria common space and then the

48:35 ↗ gymnasium area is down below and the

48:38 ↗ covered play is off to our left and the

48:41 ↗ track is down below to the right you can

48:44 ↗ see some of those railings that we were

48:46 ↗ just talking about on the site a view

48:53 ↗ from the track in the field area

48:57 ↗ and then the view from sr 900 so one of

49:04 ↗ switch gears just tiny bit and talked

49:07 ↗ about some of the questions and comments

49:08 ↗ that we've gotten about the building as

49:11 ↗ I mentioned we've been working with Ken

49:12 ↗ as he's been representing the homeowners

49:15 ↗ association and really looking at what

49:17 ↗ is the expression of that East retaining

49:20 ↗ wall structurally it needs to be a

49:22 ↗ shotcrete wall in one area and a

49:24 ↗ mechanically stabilized earth wall in

49:28 ↗ other areas so we're working with him to

49:31 ↗ develop an approach to that material and

49:34 ↗ we landed on a sculpted shot Creek faced

49:37 ↗ wall so that'll really bring in the

49:40 ↗ character that mountain village to that

49:42 ↗ wall so that'll be the wall that you see

49:44 ↗ as you're driving up Tyler's I'm just

49:47 ↗ gonna go back for one minute I did want

49:49 ↗ to highlight and this was mentioned

49:50 ↗ earlier that the stormwater pond that

49:53 ↗ folks are used to looking at was right

49:54 ↗ here and now all that storm water's

49:56 ↗ being managed

49:57 ↗ underneath the field

50:05 ↗ and just to reiterate because we've had

50:08 ↗ a lot of conversations about parking and

50:12 ↗ I wanted to just kind of highlight the

50:14 ↗ parking areas on the site I'm not gonna

50:16 ↗ spend a lot of time so the parking

50:18 ↗ structure and the parking by the field

50:19 ↗ and then the event parking that comes in

50:22 ↗ when we're not using the site for school

50:27 ↗ pick-up and drop-off so but for events

50:30 ↗ another event and other happenings and

50:32 ↗ as we think about parking for this site

50:35 ↗ not only is there pickup and drop off

50:41 ↗ pickup and drop off parallel to the

50:43 ↗ school but it's also important to note

50:45 ↗ that the quantity of parking that we're

50:46 ↗ proposing for this site will allow 40

50:49 ↗ parking stalls to be unused after the

50:51 ↗ staff are there that if a parent arrives

50:53 ↗ and needs to go inside with their child

50:55 ↗ there's lots of parking stalls beyond

50:57 ↗ the drop-off areas so we get asked a lot

51:01 ↗ about how the quantity of parking is

51:03 ↗ determined and this was covered by the

51:05 ↗ city and several of their comments but

51:08 ↗ just to elaborate a little bit further

51:10 ↗ is there are guidelines for parking and

51:13 ↗ they also challenge us to reduce our

51:15 ↗ requirements on vehicles and so as we

51:18 ↗ strive to develop strategies for finding

51:21 ↗ that right number we we look at what's

51:24 ↗ been done in other areas and with the

51:26 ↗ assistance of Heffron transportation

51:29 ↗ they've really done some in depth

51:30 ↗ studies to look at how to approach this

51:33 ↗ and I just wanted to share some of these

51:34 ↗ numbers a couple of the schools that we

51:37 ↗ profiled were the schools that had a

51:39 ↗ larger population than what is proposed

51:41 ↗ for middle school number six and really

51:44 ↗ where you were able to look at what is

51:46 ↗ their daily parking need and how does it

51:48 ↗ compare with what we expect to need for

51:51 ↗ middle school six and at 82 and 66 we

51:56 ↗ feel like for 900 students that we're

51:59 ↗ exceeding what we expect will be needed

52:01 ↗ on a regular basis and as was mentioned

52:04 ↗ earlier we've got a hundred and

52:05 ↗ twenty-two parking spots every day and

52:07 ↗ thirty-nine parking stalls after hours

52:10 ↗ for a total of 161

52:13 ↗ and in addition to the event parking

52:17 ↗ that is able to be accommodated with 161

52:19 ↗ spaces the escort school district and

52:23 ↗ with with the help of our traffic

52:26 ↗ consultant we've been working with the

52:27 ↗ city to develop a traffic management

52:30 ↗ plan that looks at how we can mitigate

52:33 ↗ any sort of potential impact that might

52:35 ↗ be developed as a result of this project

52:37 ↗ and the plan is to evaluate that on an

52:40 ↗ annual basis so to talk a little bit

52:45 ↗ more about traffic we've had several

52:47 ↗ questions really wanting to understand

52:49 ↗ how we're going to be responding to the

52:52 ↗ impact of adding the middle-school to

52:54 ↗ talas Drive in particular we will have

52:57 ↗ school zones speed limits on during the

53:01 ↗ school hours pick-up and drop-off times

53:03 ↗ that will be enforced by the police

53:06 ↗ department at 20 miles per hour

53:08 ↗ well flashing beacons there as mentioned

53:11 ↗ we are also providing a traffic signal

53:13 ↗ to allow for those right and left turns

53:16 ↗ and entrance onto the site and keeping

53:18 ↗ traffic flowing in a timely fashion so

53:20 ↗ that will be located at the intersection

53:22 ↗ of the middle school driveway and the

53:24 ↗ talus Drive and there will be striping

53:30 ↗ at Falcon Way noting that you cannot

53:32 ↗ block it so if cars are stopped because

53:35 ↗ of the traffic signal they're not going

53:37 ↗ to be able to block Falcon way so we

53:39 ↗ don't have any sort of traffic

53:41 ↗ congestion at that intersection

53:48 ↗ the other comments was just to talk a

53:50 ↗ little bit about construction during a

53:52 ↗ recent community meeting we did have a

53:54 ↗ few folks want to understand what that

53:57 ↗ short-term impact will be and I'm going

54:00 ↗ to actually ask our contractor Brian

54:02 ↗ Gormley from Cornerstone to speak

54:03 ↗ briefly to those I Brian formerly with

54:08 ↗ Cornerstone general contractors will the

54:10 ↗ ones that signed up to build this thing

54:13 ↗ so as you can see it's quite it's quite

54:15 ↗ a sight very very much of a challenge

54:17 ↗ but our goal in our time when we're

54:19 ↗ there is to try to be the best neighbors

54:21 ↗ that we can but we wanted to touch on

54:22 ↗ three items in particular today work

54:25 ↗ hours obviously we'll be in compliance

54:27 ↗ with local ordinances with the city of

54:29 ↗ Issaquah and have a lot of familiarity

54:31 ↗ doing that we performed for other

54:33 ↗ schools for is across school district

54:35 ↗ over the last nine years or so I think

54:39 ↗ parking and access see if I can the

54:43 ↗ mouse has been a problem today but we're

54:46 ↗ we're gonna our construction entrances

54:48 ↗ will be the three entrances that are

54:50 ↗ contemplated for the project the lower

54:53 ↗ two will be more primary than one off of

54:57 ↗ Falcon we'll be more limited as it's

54:58 ↗ kind of a dead-end area but but we will

55:02 ↗ maintain those entrances during the

55:04 ↗ construction phase and then parking we

55:07 ↗ intend to have all the parking be on

55:09 ↗ site we're not gonna park in any of the

55:11 ↗ neighborhoods and you know part of our

55:13 ↗ responsibility as a contractor is to

55:14 ↗ control that you know to with our folks

55:17 ↗ and lastly some of the feedback we got

55:20 ↗ at some of the community meetings was

55:22 ↗ communicating well with them and so

55:25 ↗ we're working with the school district

55:27 ↗ the talus community and the city of

55:30 ↗ Issaquah to develop a plan to do that

55:32 ↗ during the construction phase thank you

55:38 ↗ so one I'm just going to use this slide

55:41 ↗ to cover one other topic that's come up

55:43 ↗ and that is about how we're going to

55:46 ↗ respond to bus ridership and conditions

55:49 ↗ around snow which has been a hot topic

55:51 ↗ with the weather that we've had I just

55:54 ↗ wanted to highlight that the acoustical

55:55 ↗ district does have a really strong

55:58 ↗ history of really understanding what the

56:00 ↗ predicted weather is and responding in

56:03 ↗ advance to weather if a school is likely

56:07 ↗ to be affected by the weather they've

56:09 ↗ canceled school if they anticipate that

56:13 ↗ the weather is going to change and the

56:15 ↗ students are already at school they make

56:17 ↗ plans to allow the students to be

56:19 ↗ released early and in an extreme

56:22 ↗ situation they would be looking at

56:24 ↗ alternative ways to get this kids down

56:26 ↗ the talus Drive to get on to buses but

56:30 ↗ based on the topography of the s-cross

56:33 ↗ school district they have a really long

56:35 ↗ history of navigating schools in

56:39 ↗ locations where they have to think about

56:41 ↗ the hills

56:43 ↗ those were the comments that we've heard

56:46 ↗ a lot through the community meetings and

56:49 ↗ so just to hit on a few items that are

56:52 ↗ coming next we've got the SEPA in

56:55 ↗ process that's one of the questions we

56:57 ↗ get asked we're going to be looking for

56:59 ↗ your feedback

57:00 ↗ integration of comments that we've been

57:02 ↗ getting from the staff report and you

57:05 ↗ know really looking forward to the

57:07 ↗ rebound reom process that be coming in

57:08 ↗ the spring and any other comments so

57:12 ↗ thank you thank you I would like to open

57:19 ↗ the meeting to public comments if you

57:23 ↗ wish to make a comment and we'd ask that

57:25 ↗ you sign in or we or you if you choose

57:30 ↗ as Katie indicated we would really like

57:34 ↗ to be able to keep you in the

57:35 ↗ communication loop so that'll make life

57:38 ↗ a little easier and when you get to

57:42 ↗ podium if you would please state your

57:43 ↗ name and then give us your comments and

57:47 ↗ we look forward to hearing from

57:54 ↗ so I can read off names that people

57:57 ↗ signed in Rebecca stay back yes you did

58:05 ↗ that's probably not the comments we

58:07 ↗ expected how about Bruce simple simple

58:10 ↗ yep I apologize him I'm not really good

58:14 ↗ at reading people's names so this one or

58:22 ↗ this one thank you Kevin

58:29 ↗ my name is Bruce sample under 100

58:32 ↗ temporary its way northwest in this

58:34 ↗ above I'm the safety and security

58:37 ↗ liaison for the residents Council of the

58:41 ↗ timber ridge continuing care retirement

58:43 ↗ community which you've all aware of on

58:45 ↗ tell us I'm sure our community has over

58:49 ↗ five hundred residents and the majority

58:52 ↗ of us continue to enjoy the privilege of

58:55 ↗ driving and the independence that

58:57 ↗ provides in spite of our age however

59:01 ↗ we've been contending for quite a long

59:04 ↗ time with nine-foot travel lanes and

59:06 ↗ 7-foot wide parking places around timber

59:09 ↗ bridge which is problematic and

59:12 ↗ unnerving for many of our residents when

59:16 ↗ facing oncoming eight to nine foot wide

59:18 ↗ delivery trucks particularly along

59:20 ↗ Falken way on the east side we often

59:24 ↗ have to stop because of uncertainty that

59:27 ↗ driving past wide oncoming trucks and

59:30 ↗ vehicles is a safe maneuver the

59:33 ↗ unfortunately to frequent emergency

59:36 ↗ vehicles on timber each way on the west

59:38 ↗ side can present a similar situation

59:42 ↗ incidentally all of our delivery for the

59:45 ↗ maintenance of timber Ridge food and

59:48 ↗ services all come in a Long Falcon way

59:51 ↗ on the east side

59:53 ↗ the current land use plans before you

59:56 ↗ indicate to lane to 10-foot wide travel

59:59 ↗ lanes with two flanking eight-foot

1:00:02 ↗ parking lanes at the north end of Falcon

1:00:05 ↗ Way between the new school bus loop

1:00:07 ↗ entrance and talus Drive the original

1:00:11 ↗ submission had 11 foot wide travel lanes

1:00:14 ↗ but these were reduced to 10-foot

1:00:16 ↗ because this is now the current street

1:00:19 ↗ standard on talus and on the yes acquire

1:00:24 ↗ community in general you have heard this

1:00:27 ↗ evening that our request of the city to

1:00:29 ↗ review and approve the 11 foot wide

1:00:32 ↗ travel lanes is now looked upon

1:00:35 ↗ favorably based on traffic analyses and

1:00:38 ↗ the small section of roadway involved

1:00:40 ↗ and we were very pleased to hear that it

1:00:43 ↗ is hoped that the Commission will agree

1:00:45 ↗ with this it would be a

1:00:47 ↗ confidence-building and most welcomed

1:00:49 ↗ outcome for our residents facing the

1:00:52 ↗ additional challenge each morning that

1:00:54 ↗ the vision of 18 8 foot by school buses

1:00:58 ↗ in addition to the delivery trucks

1:01:00 ↗ turning into Falcon wade he would

1:01:03 ↗ certainly add to the overall safety and

1:01:05 ↗ security of our large population of

1:01:08 ↗ senior drivers such a limited exception

1:01:11 ↗ would not attract from the overall

1:01:13 ↗ current street standard of 10 foot in

1:01:18 ↗ Issaquah and would provide benefits not

1:01:21 ↗ only for our residents but also for bus

1:01:24 ↗ and truck drivers using this

1:01:26 ↗ intersection when they're turning into

1:01:28 ↗ Falcon way from Telus Drive thank you

1:01:31 ↗ very much thank you Jason Morris

1:01:45 ↗ good evening my name is Jason Morris and

1:01:48 ↗ I am currently the executive director of

1:01:50 ↗ middle school education for the Issaquah

1:01:52 ↗ School District during my career in

1:01:55 ↗ Issaquah the last 16 years I've served

1:01:58 ↗ as an assistant principal at hiss

1:02:00 ↗ o'clock middle school the principal of

1:02:02 ↗ Maywood middle school and the director

1:02:04 ↗ of facilities for the Issaquah School

1:02:06 ↗ District in tonight I speak to you in

1:02:09 ↗ support of approving the project for

1:02:12 ↗ middle school number six at the talus

1:02:15 ↗ site for the sequester school district

1:02:18 ↗ during my 16 years in the sequester

1:02:22 ↗ district and 21 years total career I've

1:02:26 ↗ spent all of those years excepting my

1:02:28 ↗ one year in facilities as a middle

1:02:31 ↗ school teacher a middle school

1:02:32 ↗ administrator or a supervisor of middle

1:02:35 ↗ school programs for the district and I

1:02:38 ↗ would encourage the development and

1:02:40 ↗ moving forward with middle school six a

1:02:43 ↗ little history about our current middle

1:02:45 ↗ school situation we have five middle

1:02:47 ↗ schools in the district as we speak next

1:02:50 ↗ year four of those are they are

1:02:55 ↗ currently or rather next year they're

1:02:57 ↗ projected to be over a thousand students

1:03:00 ↗ each with Maywood middle school is our

1:03:03 ↗ biggest school at over 1,200 students so

1:03:06 ↗ as you can see by those numbers our

1:03:08 ↗ middle schools are crowded they're

1:03:11 ↗ facing stress on the facilities due to

1:03:14 ↗ that overcrowding and six middle school

1:03:17 ↗ will provide relief for our middle

1:03:20 ↗ school programs in the Issaquah School

1:03:21 ↗ District adding a sixth middle school

1:03:25 ↗ will reduce our average per middle

1:03:28 ↗ school from just over one thousand

1:03:30 ↗ students per school to approximately 870

1:03:34 ↗ per school which is still a rather large

1:03:37 ↗ middle school but much more manageable

1:03:39 ↗ than our schools that are currently over

1:03:41 ↗ a thousand students and certainly

1:03:44 ↗ Maywood middle school which is over 1200

1:03:46 ↗ next year in additional middle school

1:03:50 ↗ will also bring

1:03:51 ↗ ladies to our community our students and

1:03:54 ↗ our neighbors

1:03:56 ↗ it will provide track and field space

1:03:58 ↗ and gym space for our school activities

1:04:01 ↗ for athletics and programs

1:04:03 ↗ you saw the plan theater as well or at

1:04:06 ↗ least a stage before those types of

1:04:08 ↗ performances those facilities will also

1:04:11 ↗ be available to community user groups

1:04:13 ↗ and community sports teams which if you

1:04:16 ↗ have children who play sports

1:04:18 ↗ acquiring fields can be a challenge and

1:04:21 ↗ this would provide an additional field

1:04:23 ↗ in track and gymnasium space that will

1:04:26 ↗ be open to the public

1:04:27 ↗ currently all of our middle schools do

1:04:29 ↗ allow access during non-school activity

1:04:32 ↗ hours and a process for gaining access a

1:04:35 ↗ key or a key card to access those sites

1:04:43 ↗ we're working to build smart buildings

1:04:47 ↗ compact design to be good neighbors

1:04:49 ↗ within the community and to obviously

1:04:52 ↗ design schools that are visually

1:04:56 ↗ appealing and walkable for our systems I

1:04:59 ↗ look forward to partnering with the City

1:05:03 ↗ Vista kua the Telus community and the

1:05:05 ↗ timber Ridge community as hopefully we

1:05:07 ↗ can be their neighbors and be excellent

1:05:10 ↗ neighbors at that so I speak in support

1:05:12 ↗ of the middle school six at the talus

1:05:14 ↗ site thank you

1:05:15 ↗ Thank You Christy Anderson good evening

1:05:26 ↗ my name is Christy Anderson I live in

1:05:29 ↗ Dallas and I'm also the chair of the

1:05:31 ↗ landscape committee for the whole talus

1:05:33 ↗ community and I would just like to

1:05:36 ↗ reiterate a couple of points tonight for

1:05:38 ↗ you

1:05:39 ↗ one is that talus Drive is the entrance

1:05:43 ↗ to our whole community and we've been

1:05:45 ↗ working really hard over the past

1:05:46 ↗ several years to make that into

1:05:48 ↗ something that we're really proud of

1:05:50 ↗ and I'm looking forward to seeing the

1:05:51 ↗ landscape plan so we can continue to

1:05:54 ↗ have that on our Telus Drive because

1:05:56 ↗ this is going to be quite a visible site

1:05:58 ↗ but one thing I haven't seen yet which I

1:06:01 ↗ would like to have some reassurance on

1:06:03 ↗ is that there's also a comprehensive

1:06:05 ↗ maintenance plan for the landscaping

1:06:08 ↗ dealing with talus as a whole because

1:06:12 ↗ it's a relatively new community one

1:06:13 ↗ thing that I've had to deal with as a

1:06:15 ↗ landscape chair is that the plantings

1:06:18 ↗ the developers put in were gorgeous when

1:06:21 ↗ they first built the houses and now

1:06:23 ↗ they're not so gorgeous

1:06:24 ↗ so the maintenance plan the long-term

1:06:27 ↗ plan of these landscapes would be really

1:06:29 ↗ important to us as a community and I

1:06:31 ↗ would appreciate the consideration on

1:06:32 ↗ that thank you excellent thank you

1:06:40 ↗ I'm sorry Katy is working to get my

1:06:50 ↗ presentation up I will I just want to

1:06:55 ↗ say before I get into the presentation

1:06:58 ↗ that the talus residential Association

1:07:01 ↗ which I represent tonight is supportive

1:07:04 ↗ of the middle school in the talus

1:07:06 ↗ community we've been working with not

1:07:09 ↗ only the school team but also the city

1:07:13 ↗ staff development services team so I

1:07:15 ↗ think we've got a good working

1:07:16 ↗ relationship we've been able to

1:07:17 ↗ accomplish a whole lot quite frankly the

1:07:21 ↗ final issue I want to talk about is

1:07:24 ↗ safety on talus Drive

1:07:31 ↗ so the question is is Tallis drive safe

1:07:34 ↗ and does the building of a school impact

1:07:40 ↗ that well the school district and the

1:07:47 ↗ city believes so the only change on

1:07:51 ↗ Tallis Drive is that there'll be a

1:07:53 ↗ flashing schools speed limit sign the

1:07:58 ↗ school districts traffic impact analysis

1:08:01 ↗ says that's good enough

1:08:03 ↗ city staff doesn't seem to disagree with

1:08:06 ↗ that but what I want to talk about

1:08:08 ↗ tonight is City study in 2018 said that

1:08:12 ↗ there's over a thousand cars a day that

1:08:15 ↗ go up and down talus Drive and exceed

1:08:17 ↗ the speed limit by 10 miles an hour or

1:08:19 ↗ more in addition to that there's been

1:08:23 ↗ recent accidents that suggest the talus

1:08:26 ↗ Drive does have a problem with speeding

1:08:28 ↗ and distracted drivers thousand times a

1:08:31 ↗ day those are the radar signs in front

1:08:33 ↗ of timber Ridge that will be in the

1:08:35 ↗ school zone

1:08:38 ↗ this is the study that I referenced this

1:08:40 ↗ was done in the fall of 2018

1:08:42 ↗ not only the thousand cars a day going

1:08:45 ↗ over ten miles an hour over the speed

1:08:47 ↗ limit by the thousand cars a week that

1:08:50 ↗ are exceeding the speed limit by 15

1:08:53 ↗ miles an hour so that's 40 miles an hour

1:08:55 ↗ going up and down that steep hill those

1:09:00 ↗ red stars are the property damage that

1:09:03 ↗ we've suffered as the talus residential

1:09:06 ↗ Association those are the dates those

1:09:10 ↗ are vehicles that left the road and

1:09:12 ↗ managed to hit something this is the

1:09:16 ↗ city police report on that same stretch

1:09:19 ↗ of talus Drive and these incidents don't

1:09:23 ↗ always coincide with the Stars on my map

1:09:25 ↗ because they may not have been property

1:09:28 ↗ damage related but they've been

1:09:30 ↗ collisions and the Issaquah police have

1:09:33 ↗ records of all of these those are the

1:09:35 ↗ incident numbers and the dates so cars

1:09:41 ↗ leave the street and hit light poles

1:09:45 ↗ they had fire hydrants they hit our

1:09:48 ↗ street trees

1:09:53 ↗ they leave the road maybe they don't hit

1:09:57 ↗ anything but they're in the medians

1:09:58 ↗ they're in the sidewalk

1:10:01 ↗ sometimes they rest in the median and

1:10:07 ↗ this was the last one 9 days ago on

1:10:10 ↗ January 6 car came to rest on that

1:10:14 ↗ utility box in the foreground and if you

1:10:17 ↗ reverse that image that's Falcon Drive

1:10:19 ↗ and Talas away and where that X is is

1:10:22 ↗ where that car came to rest right near

1:10:25 ↗ those two students walking to school

1:10:30 ↗ and what does IPD think about speeds on

1:10:32 ↗ Tallis drive well here's the citations

1:10:36 ↗ speed to fast for conditions driving

1:10:39 ↗ well in excess of posted speed speeds to

1:10:42 ↗ fast speeds to fast and on and on and on

1:10:50 ↗ this last one I want to bring to your

1:10:52 ↗ attention the school district cites the

1:10:55 ↗ washed-out report that says there's only

1:10:57 ↗ a handful of accidents on talents Drive

1:10:59 ↗ that last one is a good anecdotal piece

1:11:02 ↗ of information had it not been for the

1:11:05 ↗ patrol officer following a trail of

1:11:07 ↗ fluids up Dallas Drive and into a

1:11:11 ↗ neighborhood they never would have found

1:11:13 ↗ that car but there are hit and runs all

1:11:18 ↗ the time where cars leave the road and

1:11:20 ↗ they're not in the washed out reports

1:11:22 ↗ and the heifers Efrain transportation

1:11:27 ↗ analysis that was done for the school

1:11:29 ↗ district says that we regularly exceed

1:11:32 ↗ the posted speed limit Dallas residents

1:11:36 ↗ speak out on next-door about speed

1:11:40 ↗ problems some people call it the talus

1:11:47 ↗ Speedway and it can't happen here we all

1:11:53 ↗ know about the bicyclists over on East

1:11:55 ↗ Lake Sammamish that was tragically

1:11:57 ↗ killed or the little boy on Newports way

1:12:02 ↗ are we really willing to roll the dice

1:12:04 ↗ on this with all this information so the

1:12:09 ↗ excessive speeds on Tallis drive they're

1:12:11 ↗ well documented and it's a long-standing

1:12:13 ↗ issue in the city and the s-cross School

1:12:17 ↗ District you have a responsibility for

1:12:18 ↗ those 850 kids and those 150 staff that

1:12:23 ↗ you're now going to place in this

1:12:25 ↗ hazardous situation so what do we want

1:12:29 ↗ from you as commissioners before you

1:12:32 ↗ agree on the site development permit we

1:12:35 ↗ want you to commit or have the city and

1:12:38 ↗ the school district could commit to a

1:12:39 ↗ plan to slow that traffic down on day

1:12:42 ↗ one when that school opens and all those

1:12:44 ↗ kids and all that staff are present

1:12:46 ↗ photo enforced radar speed tables are

1:12:50 ↗ two things that could do that we'd like

1:12:53 ↗ to school district to by that photo

1:12:55 ↗ enforced radar and give it to the city

1:12:57 ↗ to use on day one so I'm asking you to

1:13:02 ↗ keep our kids safe

1:13:03 ↗ thank you thank you

1:13:17 ↗ anybody else from the public who wish to

1:13:19 ↗ speak my name is Mary Lynch and I

1:13:28 ↗ recited 269 Oh North West Oak Crest

1:13:30 ↗ Drive Issaquah Washington I first want

1:13:33 ↗ to comment on the lighting I'm glad to

1:13:35 ↗ see that the field Lightning has gotten

1:13:36 ↗ added to the preliminary Seva report

1:13:41 ↗ because I don't know if you remember you

1:13:43 ↗ mean I don't know what happened it's

1:13:45 ↗ qualm middle it was said it was not

1:13:46 ↗ going to have lighting and then all of a

1:13:48 ↗ sudden lights appeared I think this

1:13:50 ↗ needs to be addressed now if there is

1:13:52 ↗ going to be lighting I think there also

1:13:54 ↗ needs to be on more of this vapor hood

1:13:56 ↗ wide study done on glare because this is

1:14:00 ↗ up above and one of the issues that we

1:14:02 ↗ have over the quan middle is those

1:14:04 ↗ houses that are on the other side of 2nd

1:14:07 ↗ street that have all of a sudden now

1:14:09 ↗ glare from the lights so just because

1:14:11 ↗ the glare is directed down and maybe

1:14:14 ↗ Timber Ridge won't be impacted you've

1:14:16 ↗ got neighbors that are down along

1:14:17 ↗ Newport or along is 900 that are

1:14:20 ↗ impacted and we've got people across the

1:14:22 ↗ way also on squawk Mountain that will be

1:14:25 ↗ impacted so I think there needs to be

1:14:27 ↗ more thorough study there also needs to

1:14:30 ↗ be a more plan on how you're going to

1:14:33 ↗ assure that there is no amplified music

1:14:35 ↗ or sounds coming from that play field

1:14:38 ↗ not only during school but when other

1:14:39 ↗ users use it to make sure there is some

1:14:42 ↗ fine or penalty enforced so it doesn't

1:14:45 ↗ happen and also some procedures to

1:14:47 ↗ control it I want also talk about then I

1:14:51 ↗ didn't see anything I just wondering

1:14:53 ↗ since this is supposed to be a new

1:14:55 ↗ inventive school is what are we doing to

1:14:57 ↗ really reduce energy usage in this

1:14:59 ↗ building this is an ideal time to have

1:15:01 ↗ solar energy on there I don't see

1:15:04 ↗ anything reference to that or any way

1:15:06 ↗ that that can be incorporated in other

1:15:08 ↗ alternatives energies and reduced energy

1:15:11 ↗ footprint and carbon footprint of this

1:15:14 ↗ building I think ought to be addressed

1:15:15 ↗ in the school overall you know I'm for

1:15:20 ↗ the school here because I heard it to be

1:15:22 ↗ downtown

1:15:23 ↗ in the central core area not up on the

1:15:25 ↗ hill but if talus is okay with it I'm

1:15:28 ↗ not going to argue that but I do want to

1:15:30 ↗ support what Ken just said about the

1:15:32 ↗ having from day one your speed cameras

1:15:36 ↗ and it needs to be at the beginning and

1:15:38 ↗ the end of the zones on all four

1:15:41 ↗ directions to travel because what

1:15:43 ↗ happens if you've ever gone on Second

1:15:45 ↗ Street once those cars know where that

1:15:48 ↗ speed zone is they speed up before and

1:15:51 ↗ after that so those coming from second

1:15:54 ↗ Street or from front Street turning

1:15:56 ↗ north on second they speed all the way

1:15:59 ↗ until they get to that zone that camera

1:16:02 ↗ zone and then they slow down most of

1:16:04 ↗ them so that needs to be at both end of

1:16:06 ↗ the zones as far as the speed cameras my

1:16:10 ↗ other concern is also some of my

1:16:12 ↗ deliveries the school also gets sent my

1:16:16 ↗ deliveries and the fact that that's now

1:16:18 ↗ into the parent parking and drop-off

1:16:20 ↗ quite frequently as those deliveries are

1:16:23 ↗ at the time when school starts I know

1:16:25 ↗ because I'm over there it is qualm

1:16:27 ↗ middle and some of the other schools so

1:16:29 ↗ my concern is there is how is that going

1:16:32 ↗ to be controlled and are those

1:16:33 ↗ somebody's going to block the parent

1:16:35 ↗ traffic during that time period what is

1:16:38 ↗ going to prevent parents and they will

1:16:40 ↗ do this they will find any place they

1:16:42 ↗ can drop their kids off they will stop

1:16:44 ↗ they will stop out on talents tap or

1:16:46 ↗ towel strike and try and drop their kids

1:16:48 ↗ off they will go around

1:16:49 ↗ Timber Ridge and drop their kids off on

1:16:52 ↗ Falcon that's you know so unless things

1:16:55 ↗ are put in place so that can't happen

1:16:57 ↗ parents will do that my concern then

1:17:02 ↗ also is parents parking in the bus zone

1:17:05 ↗ areas that is very consistently happens

1:17:08 ↗ you're talking about extract if --'tis

1:17:10 ↗ that happen there even on a day with

1:17:13 ↗ graduation whatever we have tremendous

1:17:15 ↗ troubles around the schools with parents

1:17:17 ↗ parking in the bus zone areas and what's

1:17:19 ↗ going to prevent the parents from

1:17:21 ↗ parking and blocking the bus zones

1:17:23 ↗ because here the buses are going to have

1:17:24 ↗ to go in and turn around so that turn

1:17:27 ↗ around cannot be blocked either which we

1:17:30 ↗ have had happen over at the other

1:17:31 ↗ schools quite a little bit

1:17:33 ↗ so that needs to be managed my other

1:17:36 ↗ concern is with the kids walking over

1:17:38 ↗ the high crosswalk is what's going to

1:17:40 ↗ prevent a kid from throwing something

1:17:41 ↗ off of that high crosswalk into the

1:17:44 ↗ parent traffic area I haven't really

1:17:46 ↗ seen the design that crosswalk also if

1:17:49 ↗ it's a little bit cold how is that

1:17:51 ↗ crosswalk going to be designed so kids

1:17:53 ↗ are not going to slip and slide if it's

1:17:56 ↗ metal it's going to be slippery if it's

1:17:58 ↗ concrete it's gonna be slippery and if

1:18:00 ↗ they slip they're gonna be serious

1:18:01 ↗ injuries so that has to really be looked

1:18:04 ↗ at and maybe some sort of in late

1:18:06 ↗ heating system or whatever to prevent

1:18:08 ↗ ice and other build-up and then also

1:18:09 ↗ site protection so things can't be

1:18:11 ↗ thrown off it my other concern is if

1:18:14 ↗ you're actually there talking about

1:18:16 ↗ bringing kids down to s900 if there's

1:18:20 ↗ snow

1:18:21 ↗ that doesn't happen very nicely now with

1:18:24 ↗ the snow routes I don't know if any of

1:18:26 ↗ you live in Dallas that you can ask the

1:18:28 ↗ talus people there if we're on snow

1:18:30 ↗ routes the kids have to come down the

1:18:32 ↗ hill to the bottom to get on at Ness 900

1:18:36 ↗ and there's no nice places for the

1:18:38 ↗ busses to pull over and let the kids on

1:18:42 ↗ the bus because the cars are all down at

1:18:45 ↗ the bottom blocking Dallas Drive and

1:18:47 ↗ blocking s900 so car so buses right now

1:18:52 ↗ with today's loads for the middle is

1:18:54 ↗ crying and Elementary's have a hard time

1:18:57 ↗ if there's no routes so if you're

1:18:59 ↗ talking about bringing an entire group

1:19:02 ↗ of kids down to load the buses I think

1:19:04 ↗ that's really unreasonable so things

1:19:06 ↗ have to be resolved on what's gonna be

1:19:09 ↗ happening with plowing and other things

1:19:11 ↗ that the kids could get on in the bus

1:19:13 ↗ zones if there is no an ice bringing

1:19:15 ↗ them down to s900 is not a safe option

1:19:18 ↗ at all for them to walk down there let

1:19:21 ↗ alone to have the buses pull off and

1:19:23 ↗ load their students there because I

1:19:24 ↗ don't you're talking I think up to 20

1:19:27 ↗ buses that may be there so how is that

1:19:30 ↗ gonna happen if they're all that out how

1:19:33 ↗ are you going to stage buses and going

1:19:35 ↗ up to the hill the buses we're going to

1:19:37 ↗ need some sort of way in

1:19:39 ↗ and the PM to be able to pull into that

1:19:42 ↗ bus lane they need a stoplight so

1:19:46 ↗ because cars coming down the hill are

1:19:48 ↗ not going to stop so how are your steaks

1:19:50 ↗ are going to get those buses in when

1:19:52 ↗ they're loaded with kids and you have

1:19:53 ↗ bombs coming down the hill you need to

1:19:56 ↗ stop light to stop the traffic and maybe

1:19:59 ↗ it's just during those hours when the

1:20:01 ↗ buses are turning in and out but it's

1:20:03 ↗ not going to work without some way of

1:20:06 ↗ stopping traffic allowing the buses to

1:20:08 ↗ go in and then also allowing them to do

1:20:10 ↗ it pretty frequently because bird not

1:20:12 ↗ frequently but steadily because if

1:20:14 ↗ there's ice buses are gonna slide right

1:20:16 ↗ back down that hill backwards so some of

1:20:19 ↗ those things need to be thought of a lot

1:20:20 ↗ better than what I've seen them thank

1:20:22 ↗ you thank you

1:20:27 ↗ last call any other comments so I will

1:20:31 ↗ close the public portion of this hearing

1:20:34 ↗ and turn the time over to the

1:20:36 ↗ commissioners for their questions and

1:20:39 ↗ comments but questions first so if you

1:20:41 ↗ have questions for the developer or the

1:20:45 ↗ city this is your time

1:20:49 ↗ a question for the applicant do you have

1:20:55 ↗ some imagery or some additional detail

1:20:57 ↗ you can provide on that bridge on that

1:20:59 ↗ pedestrian bridge that crosses into that

1:21:02 ↗ that bus waiting area if you listen some

1:21:07 ↗ of the renderings yeah we do have

1:21:09 ↗ additional details but I do not have it

1:21:11 ↗ with me okay so we can follow up with

1:21:12 ↗ that information thank you

1:21:18 ↗ there a throw fence or any I don't know

1:21:23 ↗ cold-weather provisions and it included

1:21:25 ↗ in it right now so you what are you

1:21:32 ↗ asking though is there a throw fence or

1:21:34 ↗ which is like a tall fence so people

1:21:37 ↗ can't throw things down below yeah we've

1:21:39 ↗ been thinking about the fact that we do

1:21:41 ↗ have middle school kids that will be

1:21:42 ↗ utilizing this and their natural

1:21:44 ↗ tendencies and and we've been working

1:21:47 ↗ that into the design it's really

1:21:48 ↗ probably best if I just follow up with

1:21:51 ↗ the response on that because then I can

1:21:52 ↗ show you all the detail and we can even

1:21:54 ↗ get you samples of product and things is

1:21:57 ↗ that pedestrian walk designed to be

1:21:59 ↗ covered at this time or is the walk not

1:22:01 ↗ covered it is not covered the intention

1:22:04 ↗ is that it is similar to a sidewalk and

1:22:07 ↗ the students move at a you know

1:22:10 ↗ reasonable walking pace across it and if

1:22:13 ↗ they need to linger there's a covered

1:22:15 ↗ area of parallel with the bus drop-off

1:22:17 ↗ area so the see this Mouse is working

1:22:21 ↗ there is a covered bus waiting area

1:22:25 ↗ right here but the intention is that the

1:22:27 ↗ students move quickly from the building

1:22:29 ↗ directly to the area where they would

1:22:32 ↗ get on the bus it question it doesn't

1:22:36 ↗ look very wide for 900 students they get

1:22:39 ↗ across how wide is it yeah so it's it's

1:22:44 ↗ 10 feet wide it's the same width as a

1:22:46 ↗ sidewalk that's up there and it will

1:22:48 ↗ have

1:22:49 ↗ at the covered area parallel to the bus

1:22:51 ↗ there will be a gate so after hours you

1:22:53 ↗ will not be able to cross it and access

1:22:55 ↗ it the school will have the opportunity

1:22:57 ↗ to manage access to that pedestrian

1:23:00 ↗ bridge so that it's only accessed when

1:23:02 ↗ the administration at the school wants

1:23:04 ↗ students to be utilizing it well you

1:23:08 ↗ have this picture up there was mention

1:23:09 ↗ of a space available for for portables

1:23:14 ↗ where is that we have not identified a

1:23:18 ↗ place for portables okay I thought it

1:23:20 ↗ said that there was okay okay

1:23:22 ↗ anyway the intention was exactly the

1:23:26 ↗ opposite and I just want to clarify

1:23:28 ↗ because we may not have been clear there

1:23:30 ↗ is no place for portables identified at

1:23:33 ↗ this time there was the possibility of

1:23:36 ↗ extending the wing north wing towards

1:23:42 ↗ talus Drive but that's not a part of

1:23:44 ↗ this proposal it's just simply

1:23:46 ↗ identifying that in the future

1:23:48 ↗ little district could come back and

1:23:50 ↗ knows that yes excuse me a question it

1:23:56 ↗ seems like traffic is a big thing with

1:23:58 ↗ trying to figure out how we gonna manage

1:24:00 ↗ flow and make sure there's no problems

1:24:03 ↗ so I saw there's a signal that's gonna

1:24:06 ↗ allow bus flow in and out the bus going

1:24:07 ↗ up the hill use the the standard car

1:24:10 ↗ route so I can turn easily in and out is

1:24:13 ↗ there a percentage I live in an area of

1:24:15 ↗ the Highlands that it serves up well

1:24:18 ↗ it's at alimentary school a large number

1:24:22 ↗ of kids but they predominantly either

1:24:23 ↗ dropped off or walk to school because

1:24:26 ↗ there is no bus service within the

1:24:27 ↗ boundaries right I read that there's 10%

1:24:29 ↗ coming off talus 90% elsewhere what is

1:24:33 ↗ there an idea of any metric that would

1:24:35 ↗ share how many people would utilize the

1:24:38 ↗ bus versus drop-off yeah so I'll give

1:24:42 ↗ some highlights and maybe the school

1:24:43 ↗ district I'll need to elaborate a little

1:24:44 ↗ further

1:24:45 ↗ I believe the school district has the

1:24:48 ↗ highest in the state bus ridership for a

1:24:51 ↗ school district and I think it's over

1:24:53 ↗ 50% of their kids is what they found at

1:24:55 ↗ other sites they are looking as part

1:24:58 ↗ there being a good environmental steward

1:25:01 ↗ and their sustainability goals and also

1:25:04 ↗ to alleviate traffic concerns they are

1:25:07 ↗ working on strategies to encourage

1:25:10 ↗ greater bus ridership some of the

1:25:13 ↗ strategies that are being brainstormed

1:25:15 ↗ and they're not formally approved are

1:25:18 ↗ you know should they be providing Wi-Fi

1:25:20 ↗ on buses are there some sort of rewards

1:25:24 ↗ system that a school can implement for

1:25:26 ↗ students that consistently ride the bus

1:25:27 ↗ so they are actively trying to continue

1:25:31 ↗ to grow their bus ridership because they

1:25:34 ↗ see so many benefits for all parties

1:25:37 ↗ involved okay the other with regard to

1:25:40 ↗ speed in this same area that I live in

1:25:43 ↗ is you know obviously a 20 mile an hour

1:25:45 ↗ zone for school I PD has done a great

1:25:47 ↗ job of being up there having a presence

1:25:49 ↗ they've handed out of tickets that

1:25:50 ↗ almost everybody with the exception of

1:25:53 ↗ maybe somebody that doesn't know the

1:25:54 ↗ area and flies through comes to about 20

1:25:58 ↗ mile an hour speed and the people that

1:26:00 ↗ don't are throttled by the cars in front

1:26:04 ↗ of them that are I think the the idea of

1:26:08 ↗ a speed camera or some sort of way to

1:26:10 ↗ manage that is a good idea is there any

1:26:13 ↗ plan I mean no I don't know if they just

1:26:15 ↗ brought up tonight or if it was

1:26:16 ↗ something that was more thought-out but

1:26:19 ↗ anything beyond the concept of a

1:26:22 ↗ flashing beacon at this point currently

1:26:25 ↗ the plan is the 20 mile an hour speed

1:26:27 ↗ limit the traffic light and the straight

1:26:29 ↗ beam that's what's been discussed okay

1:26:32 ↗ thank you do you have any sketches of

1:26:35 ↗ the intersection and the movements

1:26:37 ↗ allowed we do have a traffic analysis

1:26:40 ↗ but I we don't have those with us we can

1:26:42 ↗ certainly bring those at the next

1:26:44 ↗ meeting oh do you have it

1:26:46 ↗ we have the traffic analysis that was

1:26:49 ↗ prepared by their consultant do you mean

1:26:52 ↗ like like what will the intersection

1:26:54 ↗ look like what movements can you make as

1:26:56 ↗ you exit the driveway is that I think

1:26:59 ↗ that might there's just a conceptual

1:27:02 ↗ kind of a diagram but I can try - is it

1:27:04 ↗ in that report I have it so I can know

1:27:06 ↗ you have the executive summary and I

1:27:08 ↗ don't know if that's included

1:27:10 ↗ I know penny if you give me a second

1:27:11 ↗ deck on the subject of the

1:27:14 ↗ transportation report I think it

1:27:19 ↗ mentions on page 148 of 278 that as a

1:27:27 ↗ main driveway as a main arterial the

1:27:32 ↗ driveway should be spaced 600 feet apart

1:27:35 ↗ he's in the Falcon way driveway and the

1:27:39 ↗ main I think passenger entrance Drive

1:27:40 ↗ where you are only about 200 feet apart

1:27:42 ↗ is that right

1:27:43 ↗ so I wonder if any a yes is required for

1:27:48 ↗ that page 148 of 278 addresses this and

1:27:54 ↗ I wonder why that would be considered

1:27:56 ↗ safe in this case to have 200 foot space

1:27:59 ↗ so this that particular sentence I

1:28:04 ↗ believe is referring to the spacing

1:28:07 ↗ between Falcon Way and the intern the

1:28:12 ↗ new internal road right the collector

1:28:15 ↗ arterial standard in the city has 600

1:28:21 ↗ feet the applicant is applied for a

1:28:24 ↗ deviation because this is from the city

1:28:27 ↗ street standards and we reviewed that

1:28:30 ↗ with Public Works engineering and Public

1:28:33 ↗ Works operations and that has been

1:28:37 ↗ approved

1:28:37 ↗ that's a staff decision that's why we

1:28:40 ↗ didn't provide it to you but that has

1:28:43 ↗ been carefully reviewed and approved ok

1:28:45 ↗ saying so and hey Stan isn't required

1:28:47 ↗ for that it's a deviation let's handle

1:28:49 ↗ it

1:28:50 ↗ and and good question the deviations

1:28:53 ↗ apply to things like street standards

1:28:56 ↗ that are outside the land use code and

1:28:59 ↗ AAS applies to things inside the land

1:29:03 ↗ use part of the code okay thank you a

1:29:07 ↗ couple more questions on the building

1:29:09 ↗ the lights from Katie just show this

1:29:13 ↗ diagram before we move on so this is

1:29:15 ↗ this is showing the turning movements of

1:29:18 ↗ that proposed intersection so it'd be a

1:29:21 ↗ left turn lane a straight lane and then

1:29:26 ↗ right turn I think I'm not exact resist

1:29:29 ↗ talking about quantities perfect you're

1:29:31 ↗ here thank you this is the existing

1:29:37 ↗ volume so it doesn't show the volume um

1:29:41 ↗ oh hi I'm Jennifer Barnes I'm with

1:29:43 ↗ Heffron transportation and I led the

1:29:46 ↗ development of the transportation report

1:29:49 ↗ you're saying that that's the existing

1:29:52 ↗ actually the driveway it's gonna look a

1:29:54 ↗ lot like that there's no restriction

1:29:56 ↗ proposed at the proposed driveway with

1:29:59 ↗ the traffic signal so they could be left

1:30:01 ↗ turns

1:30:01 ↗ in and out right turns in and out there

1:30:04 ↗ would be no restrictions and that's from

1:30:06 ↗ the not the not Falcon that's at the

1:30:10 ↗ apparent drop-off area yeah in the

1:30:13 ↗ parking garage access area correct yeah

1:30:16 ↗ I'll find that Saturn since Falcon way

1:30:20 ↗ that's the bus yeah that's right I think

1:30:23 ↗ yeah what we're at I'm sorry benefiting

1:30:30 ↗ Jennifer do you see number 34 on there

1:30:33 ↗ is that the one you need

1:30:42 ↗ so does this guess does this give the

1:30:45 ↗ information that you want to understand

1:30:48 ↗ if they're if you die around the new

1:30:50 ↗ intersection and the new traffic signal

1:30:57 ↗ yeah I'm just trying to use the December

1:31:00 ↗ 13th one I'm good okay we're

1:31:03 ↗ surroundings here okay I know where

1:31:05 ↗ we're at now

1:31:12 ↗ this is what we want

1:31:16 ↗ so this shows the the turning movements

1:31:19 ↗ at the proposed main driveway at Falcon

1:31:23 ↗ Way and Talas and also at the bus

1:31:26 ↗ driveway and Falcon Way and in all three

1:31:31 ↗ cases I mean they're all t-intersections

1:31:34 ↗ but there would be no turning

1:31:36 ↗ restriction at any of those locations

1:31:41 ↗ okay stand answer my question okay

1:31:44 ↗ thanks couple quick design ones a

1:31:52 ↗ lighting initiative curious is that a

1:31:54 ↗ similar lighting that was put into the

1:31:58 ↗ park in the highlands the city-owned one

1:32:00 ↗ they just changed all the fields out to

1:32:01 ↗ I don't know okay

1:32:06 ↗ it is I think the same if not exactly

1:32:10 ↗ the same as the lighting put in at its

1:32:13 ↗ qualm middle school okay and we have

1:32:16 ↗ been out testing those lights and so

1:32:20 ↗ we'll put together some of the

1:32:22 ↗ information what we found is the glare I

1:32:28 ↗ think Tim is Lynch's question the issue

1:32:33 ↗ will probably not be anything inside

1:32:37 ↗ Tallis I think the question will be any

1:32:42 ↗ impacts to Newport way and I will need

1:32:48 ↗ to speak with Tom Mullins from the

1:32:50 ↗ school district who is the capital

1:32:53 ↗ campaign blah blah blah sorry I don't

1:32:57 ↗ know exact titles but Tom Tom and I have

1:33:00 ↗ been working out in the field and he was

1:33:02 ↗ out with the lighting designer working

1:33:04 ↗ on solutions to that and so we'll

1:33:07 ↗ provide some additional information in

1:33:09 ↗ the briefing response memo based on what

1:33:11 ↗ we've been learning in the field at the

1:33:13 ↗ other school site which I think will be

1:33:15 ↗ helpful here perfect and the other one I

1:33:18 ↗ had was more of a design from the school

1:33:19 ↗ standpoint I understand that single

1:33:21 ↗ parcel land and his akuaba specially for

1:33:24 ↗ schools is difficult to find but these

1:33:27 ↗ schools keep stacking seems higher and

1:33:29 ↗ higher than a traditional school and

1:33:32 ↗ when looking at the design I see a lot

1:33:34 ↗ of stairs I assume there's an elevator

1:33:35 ↗ somewhere it was kind of small what

1:33:38 ↗ thought is put to emergency I'm thinking

1:33:40 ↗ my kids when they leave school and

1:33:42 ↗ there's a fire drill or whatever how

1:33:44 ↗ many floors they have to go down or what

1:33:45 ↗ the process isn't that right so one of

1:33:49 ↗ the unique things about this

1:33:51 ↗ is that our third floor of this

1:33:53 ↗ five-story building is where is the main

1:33:56 ↗ level and so when we think about the the

1:34:00 ↗ traffic distance in case of an emergency

1:34:02 ↗ is that they don't have to travel a huge

1:34:05 ↗ distance to get out to do their fire

1:34:08 ↗ drill they will be assembling all the

1:34:10 ↗ students on the field area as they do at

1:34:13 ↗ most schools for when they're doing

1:34:14 ↗ those fire drills and those types of

1:34:16 ↗ things and the school administrative

1:34:18 ↗ team hasn't kind of mapped out all those

1:34:20 ↗ routes yet but we certainly work with

1:34:22 ↗ the fire department and making sure that

1:34:24 ↗ we've met all codes for egress and we've

1:34:26 ↗ got lots of options to talk with a team

1:34:28 ↗ about how they want to have kids move up

1:34:30 ↗ to that field okay thank you there was a

1:34:34 ↗ public comment earlier about the bus

1:34:37 ↗ queuing while we're on the the traffic

1:34:40 ↗ report here has there been a study done

1:34:42 ↗ in terms of that queuing into Falcon way

1:34:45 ↗ and I guess the other part of that

1:34:47 ↗ question is are the buses being stored

1:34:51 ↗ here at this bus depot and then they're

1:34:53 ↗ there making their way to the middle

1:34:55 ↗ score are they being stored on that bus

1:34:57 ↗ lane because there seems like there is a

1:34:59 ↗ concern that turning lane into Falcon

1:35:02 ↗ way looks like that accommodates what to

1:35:05 ↗ three buses and most before the queueing

1:35:08 ↗ could cause backup in a drive lane plus

1:35:11 ↗ you've got the parents turning him left

1:35:13 ↗ so I'll let Jennifer respond to a

1:35:15 ↗ traffic components I'll just respond to

1:35:17 ↗ the bus storage the intention is not to

1:35:20 ↗ store bus on buses on this site the

1:35:24 ↗ buses would all be in queued up when the

1:35:27 ↗ students are departing at the end of the

1:35:30 ↗ day and then they would arrive as their

1:35:32 ↗ routes allow in the morning but they

1:35:35 ↗ would not be stored on site so those

1:35:37 ↗ parking areas would be available for

1:35:38 ↗ other uses after hours okay

1:35:49 ↗ so the bus arrival and departure were

1:35:52 ↗ all considered an on the cueing analysis

1:35:54 ↗ that was done and in general the buses

1:35:57 ↗ arriving to the site either in the

1:35:59 ↗ morning as they're dropping the kids off

1:36:01 ↗ or in the afternoon as they're coming to

1:36:03 ↗ line up to pick up the kids they tend to

1:36:06 ↗ be more spread out they're not all in a

1:36:08 ↗ platoon and so the the cueing numbers

1:36:12 ↗ that are in our report reflect kind of

1:36:14 ↗ the typical arrival patterns of school

1:36:16 ↗ buses coming in now the bus is leaving

1:36:18 ↗ particularly in the afternoon they do

1:36:21 ↗ typically leave in a platoon so what

1:36:24 ↗ they do is they're all waiting there

1:36:26 ↗ when when school is dismissed the kids

1:36:28 ↗ load up nobody moves until all the

1:36:31 ↗ school buses are loaded and then once

1:36:33 ↗ all of the buses are loaded and the

1:36:34 ↗ doors are closed they start coming out

1:36:37 ↗ and that is the one time of day when we

1:36:39 ↗ found the potential for a queue that

1:36:42 ↗ would extend and past the available

1:36:45 ↗ space on way but in that case the

1:36:48 ↗ buses would basically be queued back

1:36:50 ↗ into the bus loop area that's also

1:36:53 ↗ something that the nice thing about

1:36:55 ↗ buses it's something that the school

1:36:57 ↗ really can manage so if there are issues

1:37:00 ↗ that become apparent with with those

1:37:03 ↗ types of patterns that there's things

1:37:06 ↗ there's measures that can be done to

1:37:08 ↗ instructions to the drivers to you know

1:37:10 ↗ not pull up to that space until you see

1:37:12 ↗ that that the cuit at TELUS Drive has

1:37:14 ↗ cleared but I guess the short answer to

1:37:18 ↗ your question is that that was all

1:37:19 ↗ considered in our analysis what time of

1:37:22 ↗ these buses leaving are they leaving the

1:37:23 ↗ closer to rush hour as traffic is coming

1:37:26 ↗ back home of Talas or they have not

1:37:35 ↗ established the school schedule yet and

1:37:38 ↗ so that is all part of the work that's

1:37:39 ↗ going to be occurring this spring I'm

1:37:49 ↗ sorry you guys have to speak at the

1:37:51 ↗ microphone

1:37:57 ↗ so again Jason Morris exec director of

1:38:00 ↗ middle school is this West School

1:38:01 ↗ District responding to the dismissal

1:38:04 ↗ times currently I can only speak to what

1:38:06 ↗ we're doing currently as you know we

1:38:11 ↗ have to boundary the process and we make

1:38:14 ↗ sure we can transport all the kids but

1:38:17 ↗ currently approximately 2:45 quarter to

1:38:21 ↗ 3:00 with new investors would be rolling

1:38:22 ↗ and then on Wednesdays it's a little

1:38:26 ↗ later it's more like 3:30 timeframe and

1:38:29 ↗ then the arrival and again I can't speak

1:38:31 ↗ I mean they don't all just be show up at

1:38:33 ↗ one time they kind of filter in but

1:38:36 ↗ generally speaking you would see

1:38:38 ↗ probably in this 7:30 timeframe as most

1:38:43 ↗ classes start in the eight o'clock range

1:38:48 ↗ the reason I'm speaking in generalities

1:38:49 ↗ right now is we have made adjustments

1:38:51 ↗ for some of our schools a few minutes

1:38:53 ↗ either direction because some of those

1:38:57 ↗ bus routes also either serve elementary

1:39:00 ↗ schools and so we have to get them out

1:39:02 ↗ of the secondary school so they have

1:39:04 ↗ time to go make their Elementary route

1:39:06 ↗ or pickup and we've made some

1:39:07 ↗ adjustments for other traffic concerns

1:39:09 ↗ but those are the general timeframes

1:39:11 ↗ inspiration just a couple questions

1:39:16 ↗ first a couple comes procedural

1:39:19 ↗ questions since this is now that the

1:39:21 ↗ Development Commission is is the

1:39:24 ↗ decision maker on permits in the

1:39:26 ↗ Highlands and Upton Talas still trying

1:39:29 ↗ to understand the role the Commission

1:39:31 ↗ plays versus the architectural review

1:39:33 ↗ committee so can you Lucy say a little

1:39:40 ↗ bit its you talked about in the staff

1:39:42 ↗ report but a little bit about kind of

1:39:44 ↗ the boundaries where what's in the

1:39:45 ↗ purview of the architectural review

1:39:47 ↗ committee and then the pieces that are

1:39:50 ↗ really in front of the Commission sure

1:39:54 ↗ I'm gonna probably talk more about

1:39:57 ↗ what's in the purview of the

1:39:58 ↗ architectural review committee

1:40:02 ↗ and I know this is unusual for you guys

1:40:05 ↗ because it does take some things that

1:40:07 ↗ you would typically look at out so it's

1:40:14 ↗ easier with architecture and some of the

1:40:17 ↗ aesthetics to identify that those are

1:40:21 ↗ the architectural review committee so

1:40:23 ↗ for building the materials colors style

1:40:27 ↗ would be under the architectural review

1:40:30 ↗ committee in terms of buildings there

1:40:34 ↗ are certain sort of high-level urban

1:40:36 ↗ design aspects the examples that Katie

1:40:41 ↗ gave were blank walls and screening of

1:40:43 ↗ roof top equipment they're generally

1:40:46 ↗ kind of from an urban design perspective

1:40:50 ↗ then there are other kinds of site

1:40:53 ↗ things would you know we might say that

1:40:55 ↗ there is a bench needed someplace the

1:40:58 ↗ architectural review committee would get

1:41:00 ↗ to say what that looked like what the

1:41:02 ↗ materials were if there's handrails they

1:41:05 ↗ might get to say what color they are or

1:41:09 ↗ again what materials now if there's a

1:41:12 ↗ case here where the railing along Falcon

1:41:15 ↗ is an urban design component so we say

1:41:18 ↗ it has to be decorative and have certain

1:41:20 ↗ characteristics for pedestrian friendly

1:41:24 ↗ reasons there could be a quite wide

1:41:28 ↗ range of ways to solve that the

1:41:30 ↗ architectural review committee would get

1:41:32 ↗ to pick which solutions their work

1:41:35 ↗ landscape is the toughest at his Co

1:41:38 ↗ Islands where I have more experience

1:41:40 ↗ doing this we never drew a really bright

1:41:43 ↗ line but I think Katie gave some really

1:41:45 ↗ good examples we can say you know

1:41:50 ↗ there's sort of specs plant sizes plant

1:41:53 ↗ spacing there are certain native plant

1:41:56 ↗ requirements we are ensuring that it's

1:42:01 ↗ consistent with a mountain

1:42:03 ↗ you character the joking example I gave

1:42:07 ↗ Katy was even if they were doing native

1:42:10 ↗ plants a formal French garden would not

1:42:12 ↗ be acceptable but short of that as long

1:42:18 ↗ as they are meeting our sort of broad

1:42:20 ↗ requirements deciding what evergreen

1:42:23 ↗ trees

1:42:24 ↗ what deciduous trees if a certain area

1:42:28 ↗ should have more trees and less shrubs

1:42:31 ↗ as long as we were within our bounds

1:42:34 ↗ which are pretty broad the architectural

1:42:36 ↗ review committee really gets to make

1:42:38 ↗ those choices

1:42:39 ↗ does that help that's helpful that it

1:42:42 ↗ kind of informs some of my questions so

1:42:45 ↗ particularly around the landscaping

1:42:47 ↗ there's some fairly broad kind of

1:42:49 ↗ parameters I think that are in the C's

1:42:51 ↗ land-use code and the committee would

1:42:53 ↗ deal with the more specific kind of

1:42:55 ↗ implementation let's say so a couple

1:42:58 ↗ couple quick questions related to the

1:43:00 ↗ landscaping one is the the top of the

1:43:04 ↗ garage the top deck of the parking

1:43:05 ↗ garage based on what I've seen so far

1:43:07 ↗ there's no of landscaping treatment

1:43:10 ↗ provided there and obviously it's a

1:43:11 ↗ fairly significant concrete deck that's

1:43:14 ↗ visible from above so what is being

1:43:18 ↗ thought about to treat the top of the

1:43:20 ↗ parking deck and then preserving the

1:43:22 ↗ necessary parking which is also a

1:43:24 ↗ premium so I'm gonna just say one thing

1:43:27 ↗ and then you don't have to walk away so

1:43:29 ↗ there is there is a choice that they

1:43:33 ↗ have to make to address this so just

1:43:37 ↗ like any parking lot they have to meet a

1:43:40 ↗ ten-percent landscape requirement it can

1:43:43 ↗ be met with landscape or it could be met

1:43:45 ↗ with architectural elements now I'll let

1:43:48 ↗ her to describe how they are chosen and

1:43:50 ↗ we have integrated an architectural

1:43:53 ↗ trellis on the upper level it didn't

1:43:55 ↗ show in any of the diagrams we shared

1:43:57 ↗ okay it did look like on one of the

1:44:00 ↗ drawings

1:44:01 ↗ on page a 104 it looks like it shows

1:44:04 ↗ that the corners to planting areas but I

1:44:12 ↗ presume err on the top is this the page

1:44:23 ↗ you're talking about yeah so the bottom

1:44:27 ↗ left in the upper right these areas yeah

1:44:33 ↗ there are there are two planting areas

1:44:36 ↗ in the corner and then the trellis area

1:44:38 ↗ that I'm talking about is in this center

1:44:40 ↗ portion could you also bring up a 201 if

1:44:52 ↗ you look at the lowers elevation there

1:44:55 ↗ no you're right just if you scoot it

1:44:58 ↗ over a little bit that's fine all right

1:45:03 ↗ being very responsive and I think there

1:45:07 ↗ you go

1:45:08 ↗ so yeah you can see kind of where the

1:45:12 ↗ hand is that there are covered play

1:45:21 ↗ structure but this is this does I didn't

1:45:24 ↗ realize we had this diagram this does

1:45:26 ↗ show the but shelter area as well and

1:45:28 ↗ the walkway to the building so we'll

1:45:33 ↗ we'll try and I think there's some on

1:45:35 ↗ some additional pages we can bring that

1:45:39 ↗ on like a 201 203 but we'll try and make

1:45:44 ↗ that clear in our briefing response memo

1:45:46 ↗ because we've been able to review it to

1:45:49 ↗ see that there's a parking structure yes

1:45:51 ↗ meeting 10% but we'll try and do it in a

1:45:55 ↗ way that's easier to understand and

1:45:57 ↗ there's you can see it this is actually

1:45:59 ↗ a great view in the center here

1:46:01 ↗ that's the trellis area there on the

1:46:05 ↗ second bullet point on the right it says

1:46:08 ↗ steel trellis it's kind of little and

1:46:10 ↗ that's pointing to the area where her

1:46:11 ↗ hand is

1:46:13 ↗ and the intention is that's planted or

1:46:16 ↗ it's just screening its screening okay

1:46:19 ↗ yeah there's also quite a bit of

1:46:22 ↗ planting around the parking garage that

1:46:25 ↗ will grow up - yeah we started want to

1:46:29 ↗ planting down low that'll grow up on the

1:46:32 ↗ different elements of the parking

1:46:34 ↗ structure and then just based on the

1:46:36 ↗ hillside and where it's sighted it's

1:46:38 ↗ actually kind of we were struggling to

1:46:40 ↗ get views of it because it gets tucked

1:46:42 ↗ into the topography

1:46:46 ↗ another questions related is only a

1:46:48 ↗ skipping miss Anderson noted in her

1:46:50 ↗ public comments that this is kind of a

1:46:52 ↗ gateway as you come into Tallis which is

1:46:54 ↗ there was a I think of rendering that

1:46:57 ↗ showed from SR 900 generally what it's

1:47:00 ↗ going to look like I'd be interested in

1:47:02 ↗ knowing more about what that experience

1:47:04 ↗ will be as you now turn what's the

1:47:08 ↗ school is built and I'm looking up the

1:47:10 ↗ hill we're going to have obviously some

1:47:11 ↗ significant retaining walls so I think

1:47:14 ↗ that would be how is the kind of Gateway

1:47:18 ↗ nature of this project being addressed

1:47:36 ↗ so we've been working through that with

1:47:38 ↗ Ken and looking at what the aesthetic is

1:47:41 ↗ of those walls and what we have proposed

1:47:45 ↗ is sculpted finished to those walls that

1:47:48 ↗ had that has a mountain view experience

1:47:53 ↗ so but I also think Rebecca that some of

1:47:57 ↗ the materials that you put to you and

1:48:00 ↗ Kim put together for Ken that were the

1:48:03 ↗ views up Telus Drive might be more

1:48:07 ↗ evocative of what that would look like

1:48:10 ↗ to answer commissioner Brennan yeah so

1:48:13 ↗ is this to be that you're talking about

1:48:15 ↗ where you would be looking at I'm sorry

1:48:19 ↗ that's part of the treatment of the hill

1:48:22 ↗ side of the retaining wall but it's

1:48:24 ↗ actually as you're turning oh I see

1:48:26 ↗ Alice what's the perspective going away

1:48:28 ↗ to people entering this yeah and I don't

1:48:30 ↗ believe we have that in any of our

1:48:32 ↗ presentation the next one yes our 900

1:48:35 ↗ right at the end of your presentation

1:48:37 ↗ yes this one mm-hmm but you can't see

1:48:43 ↗ any of those walls because of the

1:48:44 ↗ landscaping so you only see those walls

1:48:48 ↗ when you're got a different view so we

1:48:52 ↗ have done some studies of that and with

1:48:54 ↗ our work with Ken and we can follow up

1:48:55 ↗ with those feeds yeah so just in the

1:48:58 ↗ proposed landscaping will reach that

1:49:00 ↗ height or is this just a rendering or is

1:49:03 ↗ this literal I mean those trees seem

1:49:05 ↗ quite tall and they appear to there's a

1:49:07 ↗ lot of existing landscaping and so when

1:49:10 ↗ you're looking from SR 900 you see a lot

1:49:13 ↗ of the existing landscaping okay it is

1:49:20 ↗ or it is or something that we generated

1:49:24 ↗ through computer software but it's

1:49:27 ↗ leveraging you know all the great

1:49:29 ↗ imagery that is actual conditions okay

1:49:32 ↗ so it's very lifelike

1:49:33 ↗ let's they'll be supplemental landscape

1:49:35 ↗ in

1:49:36 ↗ what's rain its while we're looking at

1:49:40 ↗ this view is there a planned location

1:49:42 ↗ for signage you know calling out the

1:49:46 ↗ name of the school I mean is that plan

1:49:47 ↗ towards the intersection or is that just

1:49:49 ↗ signage on the building itself so we've

1:49:52 ↗ been we were looking at signage in this

1:49:55 ↗ entry view and we don't have it all

1:50:00 ↗ shown but we would be looking at this as

1:50:03 ↗ the approach and the entry experience we

1:50:05 ↗ wouldn't be doing signage down on oh so

1:50:07 ↗ no monument signs or anything back yeah

1:50:11 ↗ it would be it would be at this entry to

1:50:14 ↗ the school site off talus okay

1:50:19 ↗ we were looking at the elevations

1:50:20 ↗ earlier on page 59 of 278 in the package

1:50:24 ↗ on the north and south elevations I'm

1:50:27 ↗ curious as how the applicant is

1:50:28 ↗ addressing those blank walls these walls

1:50:36 ↗ up to the left here

1:50:39 ↗ let's see is that yeah I guess that

1:50:42 ↗ would be the North elevation right and

1:50:44 ↗ then there's a there's a red box around

1:50:48 ↗ a portion of the South elevation as well

1:50:52 ↗ so yes north and south there you have

1:50:54 ↗ that page exactly I don't have an answer

1:50:57 ↗ yet

1:50:58 ↗ but we we have had that identified just

1:51:00 ↗ recently and so we're looking at how to

1:51:03 ↗ respond okay Allen scene as you know

1:51:08 ↗ with the school building we're balancing

1:51:09 ↗ the teachers need for wall space for all

1:51:12 ↗ of their you know resources that they

1:51:15 ↗ use in teaching and the natural windows

1:51:17 ↗ that are desired so and so on that with

1:51:21 ↗ a RC have approval Authority for that

1:51:24 ↗ blank wall treatment now that we've

1:51:25 ↗ specified the blank walls need to be

1:51:27 ↗ treated but we have them right the city

1:51:33 ↗ would be looking for some kind of

1:51:36 ↗ appropriate treatment the AR see could

1:51:39 ↗ say you know we might say modulate the

1:51:43 ↗ wall and they might say no we want

1:51:45 ↗ applied elements and that would be their

1:51:48 ↗ purview to say that that would be the

1:51:50 ↗ appropriate solution is that the same

1:51:54 ↗ regarding a roof line modulation as well

1:51:56 ↗ Lucy I know there's a on Part B of goals

1:52:00 ↗ and guidelines for talus there's a

1:52:02 ↗ requirement specific to roofline

1:52:04 ↗ modulations so you know looking at for

1:52:09 ↗ example the East elevation level level 5

1:52:14 ↗ I'm not seeing a whole lot of roofline

1:52:16 ↗ modulation there I'm just seeing a

1:52:19 ↗ straight line of the coping all the way

1:52:22 ↗ across so would that be in our viewers

1:52:24 ↗ that the ERC side

1:52:28 ↗ there is sufficient modulation okay I

1:52:35 ↗ have another question for the applicant

1:52:38 ↗ I think pedestrian safety is a big

1:52:41 ↗ concern and one thing I didn't hear

1:52:44 ↗ addressed was that journey from the

1:52:46 ↗ parking garage to the front door of the

1:52:48 ↗ school

1:52:49 ↗ I see where the the crosswalk is there

1:52:51 ↗ but is there you know I can imagine that

1:52:53 ↗ areas can be heavily congested during

1:52:55 ↗ certain points of the day you know are

1:52:57 ↗ there any signals or safety features at

1:52:59 ↗ that crosswalk for faculty or staff or

1:53:05 ↗ children coming from the parking lot to

1:53:08 ↗ there you know it's a bit of a blind

1:53:10 ↗ corner it's in it it's in a pretty good

1:53:11 ↗ spot but you know I could see somebody

1:53:14 ↗ running out there and that cars

1:53:16 ↗ somebody's late whipping in there yeah

1:53:18 ↗ so this plaza area is the plaza area is

1:53:23 ↗ being developed to really designate that

1:53:26 ↗ this is an area where there will be

1:53:28 ↗ crossing of pedestrians and that this is

1:53:31 ↗ the prime entrance to the building we do

1:53:35 ↗ also have the opportunity for students

1:53:37 ↗ that are getting dropped off to come

1:53:39 ↗ directly up into the covered play area

1:53:41 ↗ as well and and so there and then as we

1:53:46 ↗ talked about the students will be coming

1:53:48 ↗ from the overhead walkway into the

1:53:51 ↗ building so though there'll be 900

1:53:53 ↗ students coming to this site I share

1:53:54 ↗ that in that they'll be coming and

1:53:56 ↗ arriving in multiple points at the

1:53:57 ↗ building I don't know if someone from

1:54:01 ↗ the school district might be able to

1:54:02 ↗ speak a little bit more specifically

1:54:04 ↗ about how they manage students as they

1:54:07 ↗ arrive on campus and how they make sure

1:54:10 ↗ that they're using they're making safe

1:54:13 ↗ choices so or any traffic calming

1:54:17 ↗ mechanisms planned on that incoming

1:54:19 ↗ Drive are you speed bump anything else

1:54:24 ↗ oh you can endorse that yeah so the part

1:54:29 ↗ of the reason that there is this change

1:54:31 ↗ in texture is to recognize the the need

1:54:34 ↗ to drive slower and we do have

1:54:36 ↗ designated crossing paths and things

1:54:38 ↗ along that nature to mitigate the speed

1:54:41 ↗ through there

1:54:43 ↗ Tom balance with the school district any

1:54:46 ↗ of the areas that are deemed heavily

1:54:50 ↗ pedestrian by students will be dead

1:54:53 ↗ we'll be done with crossing guards

1:54:54 ↗ people with flags if it ends up that a

1:54:57 ↗ lot of students come down the crosswalk

1:54:58 ↗ by the garage on the east side or from

1:55:02 ↗ the parking garage there'll be a person

1:55:04 ↗ out there with the flag making sure they

1:55:05 ↗ safe cross cross safely does that

1:55:08 ↗ include during sporting events as well

1:55:10 ↗ or is that during only during school

1:55:13 ↗ hours on this we don't provide any

1:55:15 ↗ personnel after school hours

1:55:19 ↗ another question on that

1:55:21 ↗ inbound passenger street to transitions

1:55:24 ↗ to a drive is that about 28 feet there

1:55:27 ↗ is a 10 + 10 + 8 for parking is that the

1:55:30 ↗ width of the street before it

1:55:33 ↗ transitions to the drive that is

1:55:38 ↗ accurate it's about 28 feet that isn't

1:55:40 ↗ is any of that incoming Street divided

1:55:42 ↗ at all I couldn't tell from the plans

1:55:44 ↗ there is a slight separation right in

1:55:48 ↗ this location for those that are turning

1:55:50 ↗ right versus those that are going

1:55:51 ↗ laughter coming in

1:55:52 ↗ yes I'm wondering about the possibility

1:55:56 ↗ of parents making a u-turn right here

1:55:59 ↗ instead of going all the way down to

1:56:00 ↗ that very long a loop now too busy times

1:56:03 ↗ of the day but other times of the day so

1:56:05 ↗ I guess there was nothing that would

1:56:07 ↗ prohibit that correct yeah I mean there

1:56:10 ↗ are I mean people are people

1:56:19 ↗ at school when school is in session

1:56:21 ↗ there's a lot that can be done by the

1:56:23 ↗ school district but at other times you

1:56:26 ↗ know we rely on other resources that you

1:56:30 ↗ I'm thinking about weather protection

1:56:33 ↗ here a little bit and can you clarify

1:56:35 ↗ where the waiting period is for pickup

1:56:38 ↗ would that be in the the covered play

1:56:40 ↗ area or our students waiting right

1:56:43 ↗ outside that entrance and what what

1:56:45 ↗ looks like underneath some canopies or

1:56:46 ↗ benches there yes so there's there's

1:56:48 ↗ covered waiting right in this location

1:56:51 ↗ at the front entryway and then there's

1:56:53 ↗ covered another covered waiting area

1:56:56 ↗ right in this location okay and then the

1:56:58 ↗ yellow is the bike area is that correct

1:57:00 ↗ the bicycle parking yes somehow I hit

1:57:03 ↗ the wrong button

1:57:04 ↗ but yes you are accurate and does that

1:57:07 ↗ have a cover over it weather protection

1:57:10 ↗ does the bus parking have covered now

1:57:12 ↗ the bike parking the bike parking does

1:57:14 ↗ not but there is more bike parking in

1:57:19 ↗ the garage so about half of it is on the

1:57:22 ↗ plaza and half is in the garage okay so

1:57:24 ↗ there is a place for cover parking done

1:57:28 ↗ it thank you on the subject of bikes in

1:57:31 ↗ the area right there

1:57:34 ↗ where the bike traffic can come in up at

1:57:37 ↗ the top yeah and they're going to be

1:57:39 ↗ sharing a 10-foot sidewalk right there

1:57:41 ↗ has so I've been given to possibly

1:57:43 ↗ marking the sidewalk bikes in this area

1:57:45 ↗ of pedestrians this area so they don't

1:57:47 ↗ collide yes so as Tom mentioned when we

1:57:50 ↗ have all the school flaggers out there

1:57:52 ↗ in the school administration is

1:57:53 ↗ overseeing the pickup and the drop-off

1:57:56 ↗ time they have discussed that there they

1:57:59 ↗ typically at their school sites

1:58:00 ↗ establish a walking zone for bikes and

1:58:03 ↗ the students right about where that star

1:58:05 ↗ is would need to just mount their bikes

1:58:08 ↗ she I think Miss Commissioner Stanford

1:58:12 ↗ is vastly different oh sorry

1:58:14 ↗ which is that from the the red section

1:58:17 ↗ north of the star I think he's wondering

1:58:21 ↗ if the 10-foot sidewalk will be divided

1:58:24 ↗ between users like a strike

1:58:26 ↗ painted you clarified pedestrians on one

1:58:30 ↗ side bicycle ahead picture green link

1:58:33 ↗ right we have not discussed that topic

1:58:35 ↗ yet so parking might be a good topic to

1:58:44 ↗ talk about real quick so in the staff

1:58:47 ↗ report it talks about special events and

1:58:49 ↗ I know there was a detailed parking

1:58:51 ↗ study done on this where they were a

1:58:53 ↗ number of there were several events

1:58:55 ↗ special events that were going to

1:58:57 ↗ admittedly exceed the parking level

1:59:01 ↗ that's provided and there's no close

1:59:04 ↗ proximity neighborhood streets on yeah

1:59:07 ↗ near this site where overflow parking

1:59:09 ↗ could readily happen so there were

1:59:12 ↗ different mitigation measures suggested

1:59:15 ↗ can you speak a little bit more about

1:59:17 ↗ where the school district is and

1:59:20 ↗ actually arriving at solutions on those

1:59:22 ↗ mitigation measures for example one of

1:59:25 ↗ them was the first one was a shuttle and

1:59:27 ↗ shuttling I don't know if that's

1:59:28 ↗ something that school district has done

1:59:30 ↗ for other sites and how that happens

1:59:33 ↗ and just one other concern noted

1:59:36 ↗ I think the condition suggested that

1:59:38 ↗ prior to issuance of a temporary

1:59:40 ↗ certificate of occupancy those

1:59:42 ↗ mitigation measures would be agreed to I

1:59:44 ↗ think that's too late I think you needed

1:59:46 ↗ to decide that before the building

1:59:48 ↗ permit gets issued so what's the

1:59:50 ↗ mitigation to do a special event parking

1:59:52 ↗ overflow on this property when when the

1:59:57 ↗ permits issue as a former middle school

2:00:00 ↗ administrator I was the principal of

2:00:03 ↗ Maywood middle school when that school

2:00:05 ↗ was approximately 1,100 students which

2:00:08 ↗ is a very good sized middle school one

2:00:11 ↗ of the things that we did to mitigate

2:00:14 ↗ traffic and parking lot space

2:00:17 ↗ particularly on nights such as a

2:00:21 ↗ curriculum night or back-to-school night

2:00:23 ↗ or whatever we call it was to work with

2:00:27 ↗ our district transportation staff to set

2:00:29 ↗ up shuttle parking one strategy that

2:00:33 ↗ I've used in the past was to use a

2:00:35 ↗ neighboring campus

2:00:37 ↗ of the ISD that didn't have an event and

2:00:40 ↗ we parked

2:00:40 ↗ parents there and then shuttled them via

2:00:43 ↗ school bus I like to think it as the

2:00:47 ↗ experience that curricular night because

2:00:48 ↗ you get to write a school bus

2:00:50 ↗ it is possible just based I actually

2:00:54 ↗ drove that today we could possibly

2:00:58 ↗ shuttle from our Hawley site our Holly

2:01:01 ↗ Street site which is the former admin

2:01:03 ↗ building site because we have parking in

2:01:05 ↗ that area I'm not sure about permitting

2:01:08 ↗ or asking permission but we do have two

2:01:10 ↗ bits around the corner if that's the

2:01:12 ↗ spot that we could arrange a shuttle but

2:01:15 ↗ that is something that has been done in

2:01:16 ↗ the past I personally did that as a

2:01:19 ↗ principal and it's definitely possible

2:01:22 ↗ thank you what one question there was a

2:01:26 ↗ mention of possibly parking on the

2:01:28 ↗ athletic field that ever happened or

2:01:31 ↗ would that cause too much damage boy I

2:01:33 ↗ would have to reference that to the

2:01:34 ↗ architect yeah there it would cause too

2:01:37 ↗ much damage to this field and it also

2:01:39 ↗ was not factored into any of our

2:01:43 ↗ scenarios for access to that the only

2:01:46 ↗ access to the field is for emergency

2:01:48 ↗ situations I think one of the more

2:01:51 ↗ problematic times I guess identified

2:01:53 ↗ there was eighth grade commencement

2:01:55 ↗ during the day what's the possibility of

2:01:58 ↗ moving that to a nighttime event

2:02:01 ↗ what's the school district's feeling on

2:02:03 ↗ that that's an administrative question

2:02:07 ↗ again I've experienced both I've

2:02:11 ↗ experienced eighth grade commencement

2:02:13 ↗ during the school day and I've also

2:02:16 ↗ experienced it after hours

2:02:18 ↗ like say six o'clock in the evening and

2:02:21 ↗ then just shortly after school in the 3

2:02:23 ↗ to 5 range all of those options can work

2:02:27 ↗ typically my experience is there is

2:02:31 ↗ input from the building administration

2:02:32 ↗ on when events such as that take place

2:02:34 ↗ and then we also at least I did as a

2:02:38 ↗ principal like to work with my community

2:02:40 ↗ of parents grandparents friends

2:02:42 ↗ neighbors who are attending those

2:02:44 ↗ commencements and work with either my

2:02:48 ↗ PTSA my parent-teacher council to decide

2:02:52 ↗ when those commencements happened

2:02:54 ↗ currently I think two or three of my

2:02:57 ↗ buildings they happen during the daytime

2:02:58 ↗ and I think I have at least one building

2:03:01 ↗ that happens in the evening time so

2:03:03 ↗ there is no set rule around that

2:03:05 ↗ typically that's something that the

2:03:08 ↗ school and the parent groups of the

2:03:11 ↗ students who are commencing from eighth

2:03:13 ↗ grade come to an agreement there Thanks

2:03:19 ↗ is there a condition regarding that

2:03:20 ↗ parking management plan I think I may

2:03:22 ↗ have seen one but I'm not sure it's we

2:03:24 ↗ generated an approved yeah thank you

2:03:29 ↗ have a question on page 14 of the staff

2:03:32 ↗ report under the flooring ratio

2:03:35 ↗ it says the applicant has proposed

2:03:37 ↗ establishing a tract of land surrounding

2:03:41 ↗ the trail which would also be deducted

2:03:44 ↗ didn't really understand that what I

2:03:46 ↗ mean by establishing attractive lands

2:03:49 ↗ that mean attractive public land

2:03:52 ↗ parkland a separate piece of property

2:03:57 ↗ which would at this time we're not

2:03:59 ↗ proposing that it be owned by someone

2:04:01 ↗ else but it could be it just isn't part

2:04:07 ↗ of the school site most of the south end

2:04:11 ↗ is graded to fit the trait and get that

2:04:17 ↗ trail in and I'll accommodate the stairs

2:04:22 ↗ and all the different grade changes

2:04:24 ↗ wouldn't be counted as part of the

2:04:26 ↗ school track then okay thank you a

2:04:31 ↗ couple different questions sort of just

2:04:34 ↗ based on where some when the report but

2:04:35 ↗ page 29 and talked about an elevated

2:04:38 ↗ crosswalk at Falcon way as a requirement

2:04:41 ↗ I think and I wondered if that is a

2:04:43 ↗ problem for buses at all to go over and

2:04:47 ↗ elevated crosswalk or if that's not a

2:04:50 ↗ problem we have spent a lot of time

2:04:53 ↗ talking about that and the engineer for

2:04:57 ↗ the school district had a solution that

2:05:00 ↗ he felt would work for both the school

2:05:02 ↗ buses and keeping a perceived constant

2:05:06 ↗ sidewalk grade um so you know we want to

2:05:11 ↗ ensure it works for both sets of users

2:05:13 ↗ both okay so in that any condition for

2:05:16 ↗ that that would be addressed or not sure

2:05:20 ↗ the condition just a requirement that

2:05:22 ↗ would be there is a condition requiring

2:05:25 ↗ that there be a constant grade and we

2:05:29 ↗ have talked about the specifics of the

2:05:32 ↗ construction detail that would allow us

2:05:35 ↗ to meet that condition and these

2:05:38 ↗ suitable for buses and and we felt like

2:05:40 ↗ we came to something that would achieve

2:05:42 ↗ that right thank you

2:05:45 ↗ and on page 32 the discussion about the

2:05:50 ↗ trail connection through the through the

2:05:55 ↗ lube the discussion at the bottom of 32

2:06:09 ↗ which says it connects into the rest of

2:06:12 ↗ the site only at the southernmost point

2:06:14 ↗ of the passenger Lou this is an

2:06:16 ↗ appropriate point of connection through

2:06:18 ↗ the bus Lou does that it's supposed to

2:06:22 ↗ be through the passenger loop assume

2:06:24 ↗ okay and then my question was in that

2:06:27 ↗ map at the top of page 33 it made me I

2:06:32 ↗ it seems strange that we would put a

2:06:35 ↗ pathway through the middle of the loop

2:06:37 ↗ as opposed to just having a walkway

2:06:40 ↗ around the edge of the loop so people

2:06:43 ↗ didn't have to cross through the middle

2:06:45 ↗ of a traffic loop when we when we

2:06:49 ↗ originally identified that concern we

2:06:52 ↗ had it going around the outside as you

2:06:54 ↗ suggested and that is a rather steep

2:06:57 ↗ wall at this time and so I don't think

2:07:01 ↗ that they felt that there was a way to

2:07:05 ↗ incorporate it on the edge relative to

2:07:09 ↗ the wall which is why we looked at going

2:07:12 ↗ through the middle but let us talk about

2:07:15 ↗ a little more and we'll provide more

2:07:17 ↗ information in that briefing this might

2:07:19 ↗ imagine it's not gonna get a lot of use

2:07:21 ↗ probably a bit still that's wrong I

2:07:29 ↗ guess one of my big concerns on page 33

2:07:33 ↗ the discussion of the service yard the

2:07:35 ↗ loading dock and that walkway and I

2:07:37 ↗ wondered if if we can pull up that

2:07:41 ↗ section and

2:07:42 ↗ zoom in on that to try to get number one

2:07:46 ↗ a better understanding because I think I

2:07:48 ↗ saw something that showed that they

2:07:49 ↗ would be roll up doors for the loading

2:07:52 ↗ dock area probably the overhead shot

2:07:58 ↗ first aerial if you look at maybe in the

2:08:01 ↗ presentation the enlarged plan

2:08:13 ↗ yeah so the extent that you can zoom

2:08:16 ↗ down into that you need to go into

2:08:20 ↗ slideshow no serious

2:08:35 ↗ there we go

2:08:37 ↗ so the service area is on this portion

2:08:41 ↗ of the site there is there's a right

2:08:44 ↗ where this line is is where we have a

2:08:46 ↗ covered roof area the dumpsters are

2:08:48 ↗ below that roof and the loading dock

2:08:51 ↗ area is adjacent to it the wall that the

2:08:55 ↗ bikes are in front of adds to screening

2:08:59 ↗ for that area and when the deliveries

2:09:02 ↗ which would be coordinated with us with

2:09:04 ↗ the beginning and the end of the school

2:09:06 ↗ day they would not be conflicting that's

2:09:09 ↗ something that the school district has

2:09:10 ↗ recognized that they need to coordinate

2:09:12 ↗ the the trucks would be backed into this

2:09:16 ↗ location here to do their deliveries or

2:09:19 ↗ to pick up the trash the you know it

2:09:23 ↗ looked like the way that the bicycle

2:09:24 ↗ wall did suck out it didn't I mean it's

2:09:27 ↗ fairly narrow down for all these kids it

2:09:29 ↗ might be dropped off to the south of

2:09:31 ↗ there and are walking along there

2:09:33 ↗ because that it's also shown as a

2:09:35 ↗ drop-off area essentially right in front

2:09:37 ↗ of the service area it looked like that

2:09:39 ↗ sidewalk got fairly narrowed right

2:09:42 ↗ around where the bicycle wall was so it

2:09:48 ↗ is not in air Road yeah it's not

2:09:50 ↗ narrowed there if you think about the

2:09:52 ↗ sidewalk with down here it's actually

2:09:54 ↗ starts to get a little bit wider and

2:09:56 ↗ then opens up to this plaza area we can

2:09:59 ↗ provide some more detail with some

2:10:01 ↗ dimensions to make that clear so you can

2:10:04 ↗ understand how that would be functioning

2:10:06 ↗ as I guess it's from a CID standpoint

2:10:11 ↗ from a design standpoint if this were an

2:10:13 ↗ office building or something like that

2:10:15 ↗ and we had somebody saying we're going

2:10:16 ↗ to put a trash can enclosure right on

2:10:19 ↗ sort of the main drop by failure yeah it

2:10:22 ↗ would be concerned I can see how we have

2:10:24 ↗ constraints of where you get things but

2:10:26 ↗ what this is going to appear like

2:10:28 ↗ because I know the trash areas and

2:10:30 ↗ loading areas aren't always kept up that

2:10:32 ↗ well and that's I guess design wise one

2:10:35 ↗ of my concerns about what that

2:10:37 ↗ like and maybe that's more an a RC issue

2:10:41 ↗ yeah I would say the specific mechanism

2:10:44 ↗ is the a RC but the fact that there is a

2:10:47 ↗ mechanism that both protects people who

2:10:50 ↗ are walking there and screens it is an

2:10:53 ↗ urban design aspect we have a condition

2:10:57 ↗ number 18 that starts that but I think

2:11:00 ↗ that this would be a good area to kind

2:11:03 ↗ of zoom in on and apply more dimensions

2:11:06 ↗ and some additional information to

2:11:08 ↗ understand how that might work because I

2:11:10 ↗ think we you know we wrote the condition

2:11:13 ↗ because we shared some of the same

2:11:14 ↗ Katherine's right and that is why we're

2:11:17 ↗ proposing an overhead coiling door to

2:11:19 ↗ cover the trash net loading area that's

2:11:21 ↗ not something we typically do at schools

2:11:24 ↗ so we are looking at providing screening

2:11:26 ↗ for that area that's great thank you

2:11:29 ↗ and the this is a minor question but

2:11:35 ↗ page 54 I was trying to figure out on

2:11:38 ↗ the table on replacement trees where

2:11:41 ↗ there was a number of significant trees

2:11:43 ↗ required was 205 and trees remaining

2:11:46 ↗ were three and the balance was 201

2:11:49 ↗ should that be 202 day since we have

2:11:54 ↗ school people here I just want my shirt

2:11:59 ↗ anybody need a calculator I can't see

2:12:04 ↗ any reason why it would not be I don't

2:12:08 ↗ know if there was a number that I got

2:12:10 ↗ wrong I mean obviously one of the

2:12:11 ↗ numbers is wrong but I'm not sure if it

2:12:13 ↗ came from me or from the report that's

2:12:14 ↗ one thing sure I wouldn't misunderstand

2:12:15 ↗ that okay and the pedestrian bridge I

2:12:20 ↗ guess the branches won't cross why does

2:12:23 ↗ it fall under any of the sky bridge

2:12:25 ↗ requirements in central Issaquah design

2:12:29 ↗ or the sky bridge only for the Costco

2:12:34 ↗ development agreement know there are sky

2:12:36 ↗ bridge provisions that I believe we

2:12:39 ↗ added to central is quad let me take a

2:12:41 ↗ look I didn't really think about it that

2:12:43 ↗ way so let's let us take a look at that

2:12:46 ↗ okay thank you

2:12:47 ↗ and then so condition 11 about the

2:12:51 ↗ reducing the lane width to 10 feet that

2:12:54 ↗ sounds like the city's gonna change that

2:12:56 ↗ to which you were required but asked

2:13:00 ↗ them to do an administrative adjustment

2:13:02 ↗ of standards to apply for that to get an

2:13:04 ↗ adjustment so they originally showed 11

2:13:09 ↗ foot lanes and the standard for the road

2:13:13 ↗ is 10 and we staff had a conversation as

2:13:18 ↗ part of this bigger review and landed on

2:13:24 ↗ 10 on staying with 10 and Timber Ridge

2:13:29 ↗ gave us some of their thoughts so we

2:13:31 ↗ went back to revisit it and I think that

2:13:35 ↗ although the standard is 10 and we

2:13:39 ↗ normally don't like to go above 10

2:13:40 ↗ because of speeds and lots of things

2:13:43 ↗ it's such a short distance that we could

2:13:46 ↗ see their point we've had preliminary

2:13:49 ↗ conversations with Public Works

2:13:50 ↗ engineering and and right now our plan

2:13:54 ↗ is to have the school district request

2:13:56 ↗ the adjustment of standards to allow

2:13:58 ↗ what they originally showed and

2:14:00 ↗ hopefully that we would have

2:14:03 ↗ that decision and included in the

2:14:05 ↗ briefing response memo when the packet

2:14:07 ↗ comes back to you for the February

2:14:09 ↗ meeting right thank you it sounded

2:14:12 ↗ reasonable so okay more questions

2:14:19 ↗ regarding the service area I'm an

2:14:22 ↗ agreement with Commissioner Morgan I

2:14:23 ↗ think it'd be great just using an

2:14:24 ↗ additional detail possibly in a large

2:14:27 ↗ plan even a kind of an interior shot of

2:14:30 ↗ that as you know whether you're a kid or

2:14:32 ↗ someone getting out of the car because

2:14:35 ↗ that whole drop-off Lane I'm really

2:14:38 ↗ seeing students you know getting out of

2:14:41 ↗ their car as much I didn't much earlier

2:14:43 ↗ point than that so I guess the other

2:14:45 ↗ part of that question or that statement

2:14:47 ↗ which is a question that parking a lawn

2:14:50 ↗ that drop-off or that loop is that staff

2:14:55 ↗ parking or is that visitor part time

2:14:58 ↗ parking I mean are there going to be

2:15:00 ↗ cars parked there the full day those are

2:15:03 ↗ those parallel spots so during the

2:15:06 ↗ school day there would it would not be

2:15:07 ↗ open to anyone to parallel park we have

2:15:11 ↗ adequate parking during the school day

2:15:14 ↗ we believe we have more than forty

2:15:16 ↗ stalls that won't be used by the eighty

2:15:18 ↗ staff members and that will be available

2:15:20 ↗ all the time for parents that might be

2:15:22 ↗ coming to the school in front of it what

2:15:24 ↗ I've heard from the administrators in

2:15:26 ↗ the district that's plenty

2:15:28 ↗ they just don't get the the same parent

2:15:30 ↗ involvement that they do at elementary

2:15:31 ↗ levels so that's the approach so what I

2:15:35 ↗ would just add because I agree with

2:15:38 ↗ everything where Becca said is that I

2:15:43 ↗ think what the school district perceived

2:15:45 ↗ was this opportunity to have sort of

2:15:50 ↗ some multifunctional uses for both of

2:15:54 ↗ those loops in off hours so if there was

2:15:57 ↗ an evening event that needed more

2:16:00 ↗ parking they would be striped and signed

2:16:03 ↗ to explain when and how that parallel

2:16:07 ↗ parking either on the bus loop or the

2:16:10 ↗ passenger loop would be available so as

2:16:14 ↗ Rebecca indicated it wouldn't be

2:16:16 ↗ available during the school day or

2:16:18 ↗ school hours but it would be off hours

2:16:22 ↗ parking to expand what's available and

2:16:25 ↗ it's about 40 more stalls okay that's

2:16:28 ↗ good thank you appreciate the

2:16:29 ↗ clarification

2:16:30 ↗ I guess well I've got the mic on the the

2:16:33 ↗ rendering as you're entering the school

2:16:36 ↗ metallus Drive could you go to that

2:16:40 ↗ image really quickly sure thank you

2:16:49 ↗ so looking at that and then looking at

2:16:52 ↗ the plan the site plan I guess I'm

2:16:56 ↗ seeing a parking or a landscape Island

2:16:59 ↗ there at that turning lane as you turn

2:17:02 ↗ east and south on talus Drive can you

2:17:05 ↗ confirm that there's going to be a

2:17:06 ↗ landscape island there or is this the

2:17:08 ↗ correct representation of that

2:17:10 ↗ intersection this does not accurately

2:17:12 ↗ represent what's in that site diagram

2:17:14 ↗ okay good match and I believe the

2:17:17 ↗ technical term is porkchop thank you

2:17:26 ↗ additional questions I have a traffic

2:17:30 ↗ questioning and there was a lot of

2:17:31 ↗ public comment about the talus Drive and

2:17:36 ↗ SR 900 intersection and was there any

2:17:43 ↗ impact from the school on that

2:17:45 ↗ intersection

2:17:48 ↗ there's a little impact the additional

2:17:51 ↗ traffic would add delay at that

2:17:53 ↗ intersection but part of the mitigation

2:17:55 ↗ that is one of the conditions we

2:17:58 ↗ understand the project is to react

2:18:01 ↗ amaizing signal at that location and and

2:18:05 ↗ then that would address that and the

2:18:08 ↗ operation that we found with the school

2:18:12 ↗ traffic and with the optimization if

2:18:15 ↗ you're familiar with how the grades work

2:18:17 ↗ of level of service a through F the

2:18:20 ↗ standard for that location is actually e

2:18:23 ↗ is the state facility and the level of

2:18:26 ↗ service that we found actually with and

2:18:28 ↗ without the project was level of service

2:18:29 ↗ C so a little little more delay but not

2:18:33 ↗ not a huge difference okay so it's a

2:18:42 ↗ delay for northbound traffic

2:18:45 ↗ specifically its so that's the average

2:18:52 ↗ delay but then where the biggest

2:18:54 ↗ increase was was in the that northbound

2:18:56 ↗ right turn lane which is not very

2:18:59 ↗ heavily used under current conditions

2:19:01 ↗ and that's where we would expect because

2:19:04 ↗ anybody accessing the school from the

2:19:06 ↗ South would be using that so I think

2:19:09 ↗ Jennifer you meant found left yes okay

2:19:13 ↗ not what I said

2:19:18 ↗ okay thank you go ahead and then I think

2:19:24 ↗ a lot of the public comments were maybe

2:19:28 ↗ before the intersection was included in

2:19:31 ↗ the project but are there any other

2:19:35 ↗ traffic calming measures that make sense

2:19:38 ↗ to incorporate with the intersection

2:19:40 ↗ with that intersection yeah sorry the

2:19:42 ↗ one further up at talat at the school

2:19:45 ↗ and the entryway yeah so you want me to

2:19:50 ↗ answer to have it coming the the traffic

2:19:54 ↗ signal itself is it should have some

2:19:56 ↗ effect and slowing down the traffic the

2:20:00 ↗ fact that there would be more traffic

2:20:02 ↗ will have some effect in slowing down

2:20:04 ↗ the traffic and then the speed school

2:20:07 ↗ zone speed limit would have an effect so

2:20:10 ↗ the bottom line is that the the project

2:20:12 ↗ itself and the measures that are going

2:20:14 ↗ that are being recommended with it are

2:20:16 ↗ all should be beneficial to the speeds

2:20:20 ↗ on Telus Drive now we haven't actually

2:20:23 ↗ said that's absolutely the last thing

2:20:26 ↗ that should ever be done on Telus drive

2:20:27 ↗ our data did show that there is speeding

2:20:31 ↗ regularly and and even though the state

2:20:36 ↗ database numbers weren't as high as what

2:20:37 ↗ the presentation was our findings were

2:20:41 ↗ consistent and most all of the the

2:20:43 ↗ collisions that for which there was data

2:20:45 ↗ were due to excessive speeds mostly in

2:20:48 ↗ wet or icy conditions the the city does

2:20:52 ↗ have a process to go through for a

2:20:54 ↗ traffic calming and I know the school

2:20:57 ↗ district would be supportive of you know

2:21:00 ↗ supporting going through that process

2:21:01 ↗ but as far as the effects of the project

2:21:04 ↗ itself we feel like the measures that

2:21:07 ↗ we've identified to help address the

2:21:09 ↗ operational and safety issues will have

2:21:11 ↗ a benefit for traffic calming that

2:21:13 ↗ doesn't necessarily mean that needs to

2:21:15 ↗ be the end of it as far as the city is

2:21:18 ↗ concerned but the project itself should

2:21:20 ↗ have a beneficial effect

2:21:24 ↗ related questions on talents drive I

2:21:26 ↗ want to bring up a couple of points

2:21:29 ↗ submitted by the community there's been

2:21:32 ↗ concern expressed that parents are going

2:21:34 ↗ to idle by the sight of chalice strive

2:21:36 ↗ to pick up and discharge kids do we have

2:21:40 ↗ any mitigation for thatis any thought

2:21:42 ↗ been given to anything we can do to

2:21:43 ↗ prevent that from happening on Telus

2:21:46 ↗ Drive say a bit south of the passenger

2:21:50 ↗ loop I would say so there's three things

2:21:54 ↗ that help prevent that and the first and

2:21:58 ↗ the most important one is just a good

2:22:00 ↗ site design where it's easy to get on

2:22:03 ↗ it's easy to circulate no know where

2:22:05 ↗ you're going and it's easy to get off

2:22:07 ↗ the site a lot of the time what we find

2:22:09 ↗ when there's a lot of that kind of rogue

2:22:12 ↗ dropping off and going on it's because

2:22:15 ↗ it's harder to go on the site than it is

2:22:19 ↗ to just not go on the site so the the

2:22:22 ↗ district's design team put a lot of

2:22:24 ↗ effort into making sure that there's

2:22:27 ↗ good flow there would be the good flow

2:22:29 ↗ on the trap on the site and that it's

2:22:31 ↗ easy to get in easy to get out and very

2:22:33 ↗ intuitive what to do once you get there

2:22:35 ↗ the other piece of that is that Tallis

2:22:38 ↗ Drive just isn't a good it's not like a

2:22:41 ↗ residential road where there's where

2:22:43 ↗ it's easy to pull over and just like a

2:22:46 ↗ local access road it's actually illegal

2:22:48 ↗ to stop one Telus Drive so I guess my

2:22:52 ↗ recommendation would be is if somebody

2:22:54 ↗ actually dared to do that or if that

2:22:56 ↗ turned out to be a problem that there

2:22:58 ↗ should be enforcement that would go with

2:23:01 ↗ that and stop that because that would

2:23:02 ↗ actually be an illegal maneuver on Telus

2:23:04 ↗ Drive there ain't no stopping no

2:23:06 ↗ standing signs on Telus Drive now or

2:23:09 ↗ might they be incorporated and part of

2:23:11 ↗ the site design

2:23:20 ↗ okay and another big concern from the

2:23:23 ↗ community was is there any other option

2:23:27 ↗ for exiting from Tallis in case of

2:23:30 ↗ emergency going downhill it seems as

2:23:32 ↗ though there's one lane going downhill

2:23:33 ↗ there and some various options have been

2:23:36 ↗ explored including the road to Newport

2:23:39 ↗ and I know that that is that was not an

2:23:42 ↗ approved option so are there any other

2:23:45 ↗ options being considered for exiting

2:23:46 ↗ downhill in case of an emergency an

2:23:51 ↗ additional lane on the right side at the

2:23:53 ↗ bottom or anything like that were there

2:23:55 ↗ any other ideas one thing to build on

2:23:57 ↗ that is that John Bush drive over is

2:24:00 ↗ similar to black nugget for the Highland

2:24:02 ↗ does that set up so it's a gated entry

2:24:03 ↗ for that situation where gets opened by

2:24:05 ↗ emergency services yes so the second

2:24:10 ↗ entrance and exit for emergency purposes

2:24:13 ↗ is James Bush Road and it is gated off

2:24:18 ↗ it's steeper than we feel as appropriate

2:24:22 ↗ doesn't meet city standards to be used

2:24:25 ↗ as a everyday Road but you're right in

2:24:28 ↗ an emergency it could be so there isn't

2:24:36 ↗ an official exit that's in this part of

2:24:39 ↗ town I think that if there was an

2:24:44 ↗ emergency

2:24:45 ↗ it might with with appropriate flagging

2:24:49 ↗ all the lanes could be exit lanes for

2:24:53 ↗ instance so you know with the decision

2:24:59 ↗ to not pursue a connection through

2:25:02 ↗ Bergsma we're left with the exit choices

2:25:06 ↗ that were originally provided with the

2:25:09 ↗ community

2:25:20 ↗ additional questions one that was raised

2:25:23 ↗ by the community that may be more

2:25:25 ↗ appropriate a layer stage I don't know

2:25:27 ↗ but it does look like a lot of

2:25:28 ↗ opportunity for green building here has

2:25:30 ↗ any discussion been raised regarding

2:25:33 ↗ solar panel especially on the large

2:25:36 ↗ southern exposure the windows operable

2:25:39 ↗ soil repurposing and so on so this

2:25:45 ↗ school like many schools that we do in

2:25:48 ↗ the state of Washington we designed them

2:25:50 ↗ being mindful of the Washington

2:25:52 ↗ sustainable schools protocol and as a

2:25:55 ↗ part of that there are requirements for

2:25:58 ↗ daylighting of spaces there are operable

2:26:00 ↗ windows proposed we have lighting

2:26:03 ↗ control systems that manage the amount

2:26:06 ↗ of and how the lighting works throughout

2:26:09 ↗ the day whether it's through occupancy

2:26:11 ↗ or daylight controls we have LED

2:26:14 ↗ lighting throughout the building we work

2:26:17 ↗ with our mechanical engineer to have a

2:26:19 ↗ really efficient mechanical system for

2:26:22 ↗ this site and there are lots of

2:26:24 ↗ strategies that we integrate as far as

2:26:26 ↗ how the building is constructed the

2:26:28 ↗ materials that are a part of the

2:26:29 ↗ building and through that process we

2:26:32 ↗ have fixtures that have low water usage

2:26:34 ↗ as a part of this sounded great thank

2:26:37 ↗ you

2:26:42 ↗ thinking about community engagement that

2:26:45 ↗ half along the South there that runs

2:26:50 ↗ behind the field I assume Timber Ridge

2:26:52 ↗ residents will be using that right I

2:26:54 ↗ mean no just kind of on their daily

2:26:56 ↗ walks and thinking about that tie-in

2:26:59 ↗ into the field would they what they need

2:27:02 ↗ to go request a key card if they want to

2:27:04 ↗ walk the field there's the field just

2:27:05 ↗ locked down during the weekends is this

2:27:08 ↗ simply just during the day you need

2:27:12 ↗ permission and that's the only time you

2:27:14 ↗ would go that well so what at the

2:27:17 ↗ community meeting what was it with the

2:27:19 ↗ community is that the school district

2:27:21 ↗ current policy is that you can go to

2:27:23 ↗ district offices and as a resident

2:27:25 ↗ request either a key card or a key to

2:27:28 ↗ access the school's facilities

2:27:31 ↗ after-hours I think the only restriction

2:27:36 ↗ might be just making sure that they were

2:27:37 ↗ accessing it during daylight or when

2:27:39 ↗ it's lit okay so they may not have

2:27:42 ↗ access to the week on the weekends as I

2:27:44 ↗ am I understand that they would have

2:27:46 ↗ access if they had gotten that card and

2:27:49 ↗ that key and it wasn't scheduled for

2:27:51 ↗ other events okay I would just

2:27:55 ↗ articulate what was said at the end if

2:27:57 ↗ the field is actually rented and paid

2:28:01 ↗ for by another organization that

2:28:04 ↗ organization would have precedents for

2:28:06 ↗ using the field if the field is not

2:28:09 ↗ rented out or unused then resident would

2:28:13 ↗ be able to go to this school office

2:28:15 ↗ provide their information get a key and

2:28:18 ↗ then access the key during you know

2:28:22 ↗ hours that it's lit and during

2:28:24 ↗ non-school activity hours for various

2:28:28 ↗ safety reasons we don't have one

2:28:29 ↗ we don't allow access for that usage

2:28:31 ↗ when there's for example like a school

2:28:34 ↗ track mean happening or something like

2:28:35 ↗ that

2:28:36 ↗ most let's have their controlled-access

2:28:38 ↗ correct where there's a chain-link fence

2:28:40 ↗ about the entire perimeter of it yeah

2:28:44 ↗ correct

2:28:44 ↗ during the school day there's there will

2:28:47 ↗ be openings so kids can exit the

2:28:50 ↗ building to go outside and use the field

2:28:52 ↗ for us a PE classes and things of that

2:28:53 ↗ nature but those would be supervised by

2:28:56 ↗ the staff and not we wouldn't have

2:28:59 ↗ interest in having community members

2:29:01 ↗ enter in those locations and then and

2:29:04 ↗ during after-hours the fences would be

2:29:07 ↗ locked and then someone who had gone

2:29:09 ↗ through the process to check out an

2:29:11 ↗ access key or access card depending if

2:29:13 ↗ it's a key card would then be able to

2:29:16 ↗ access that field during those

2:29:18 ↗ after-hours times okay thank you

2:29:22 ↗ regarding screening the parking garage

2:29:25 ↗ is that the wire mesh panel material

2:29:28 ↗ that's being considered for the garage

2:29:30 ↗ screening trellis that was just got the

2:29:39 ↗ trellis that was discussed has a

2:29:41 ↗ different makeup than that but that is

2:29:43 ↗ for the vertical screening that the

2:29:46 ↗ plants would grow on oh do we have a

2:29:51 ↗ requirement to make the screening opaque

2:29:54 ↗ so that headlights cannot be seen in the

2:29:57 ↗ garage yes is this an area that's still

2:30:03 ↗ under discussion it's hard to imagine

2:30:04 ↗ that being an opaque screen so as you

2:30:07 ↗ look at the parking garage area a lot of

2:30:12 ↗ the areas that we would be using that

2:30:14 ↗ screen the headlights that you're

2:30:16 ↗ talking about would be shining back onto

2:30:18 ↗ our property this edge of the parking

2:30:22 ↗ structure in this corner that goes

2:30:24 ↗ towards Falken way that is mostly

2:30:28 ↗ buffered by the hillside and then the

2:30:30 ↗ areas that stick up above I believe it's

2:30:32 ↗ a solid masonry wall and we can follow

2:30:36 ↗ up with more detail for all of those

2:30:38 ↗ areas okay number condition 27 talks

2:30:41 ↗ about opaque

2:30:42 ↗ or headlights does that include the top

2:30:45 ↗ level of the garage because I think I

2:30:48 ↗ saw in the cyclin there is a development

2:30:49 ↗ across the street right is that a an

2:30:52 ↗ apartment complex across the talus drive

2:30:54 ↗ or am I looking at not across talus

2:30:58 ↗ drive it that's a little further to the

2:31:00 ↗ west but the end part of condition 27

2:31:06 ↗ talks about the need for a five foot

2:31:11 ↗ area and that part of that purposes for

2:31:14 ↗ headlights okay

2:31:19 ↗ more questions I guess only one more for

2:31:24 ↗ me regarding community concern regarding

2:31:26 ↗ the lighting on the sports field in

2:31:29 ↗ light of our experience with this

2:31:31 ↗ acquittals school is there a way that we

2:31:33 ↗ can ensure that lights are not powered

2:31:35 ↗ on in this facility until they're

2:31:37 ↗ approved

2:31:40 ↗ um well it's such a different

2:31:45 ↗ circumstance I'm not particularly

2:31:47 ↗ concerned about that because the whole

2:31:50 ↗ they're being permitted at the same time

2:31:53 ↗ and we you know I think the challenge

2:31:57 ↗ that we faced it is qualm middle school

2:31:59 ↗ is that they had been installed without

2:32:03 ↗ being fully permitted and so we had to

2:32:07 ↗ ensure that what was installed actually

2:32:10 ↗ complied with code we have a much

2:32:12 ↗ greater sense of what's being designed

2:32:14 ↗ right now already complies with code

2:32:17 ↗ because of the work we did it is Quan

2:32:19 ↗ middle school a great thank you the

2:32:25 ↗ steep but it was hopeful that it would

2:32:28 ↗ be available before next meeting will

2:32:30 ↗ this project come back to the

2:32:31 ↗ Development Commission before that is

2:32:33 ↗ approved before that is finalized okay I

2:32:43 ↗ do have one final question since there

2:32:45 ↗ was a comment from community regarding

2:32:49 ↗ the sound of the speaker systems

2:32:52 ↗ intercoms whatever they may be on the

2:32:53 ↗ field how do you how do you mitigate

2:32:56 ↗ that I mean is are there systems out on

2:32:59 ↗ the market that offer a reduced decibel

2:33:03 ↗ or reduced noise or how do you do you

2:33:08 ↗ test for something like that or is there

2:33:09 ↗ just difficult standard that all schools

2:33:12 ↗ use so the comfort the conversations

2:33:14 ↗ that have been occurring have been

2:33:16 ↗ looking at strategies like signage on

2:33:18 ↗ the field to remind coaches and other

2:33:22 ↗ groups that if you know as they're

2:33:25 ↗ warming up their players out there that

2:33:26 ↗ music amplified music is not allowed on

2:33:28 ↗ the site so those are the strategies

2:33:31 ↗ that we've talked about and then as an

2:33:33 ↗ administrative team they have to work

2:33:34 ↗ with their staff okay

2:33:38 ↗ it was no built-in speakers or anything

2:33:42 ↗ like that as planned for the site okay

2:33:49 ↗ more questions

2:33:55 ↗ how about comments anybody wish to make

2:33:59 ↗ a comment I'll start up number one

2:34:05 ↗ really thorough and well-written staff

2:34:08 ↗ report and what a compliment Katie and

2:34:10 ↗ was he for putting this together because

2:34:13 ↗ it was it's a very extensive and

2:34:16 ↗ innovative project and a great staff

2:34:18 ↗ report and really also appreciate what

2:34:20 ↗ all the work that's been done by the

2:34:22 ↗ architect and the school district and

2:34:23 ↗ working with the public and help they

2:34:25 ↗ provided putting all this together it's

2:34:28 ↗ a it's a very complicated site and

2:34:31 ↗ interesting approach at it the parking

2:34:36 ↗ question I agree with the idea of using

2:34:39 ↗ a traffic management plan in reading the

2:34:43 ↗ report it appeared to me that there's

2:34:45 ↗ only somewhere between nine and twenty

2:34:47 ↗ four times a year that there would be

2:34:48 ↗ more parking demand than what is there

2:34:51 ↗ depending on concerts and so forth and I

2:34:55 ↗ would prefer to not to create a lot of

2:34:57 ↗ extra parking stalls on the school

2:35:01 ↗ property just for that amount of time

2:35:03 ↗ and also I think it helps parents to

2:35:06 ↗ learn how to carpool a little bit too if

2:35:08 ↗ they can get together with friends and

2:35:10 ↗ maybe go together because I I know we

2:35:12 ↗ did that at Pine Lake middle school and

2:35:14 ↗ certain night so I also agree with the

2:35:18 ↗ 11 foot widths for Falcon way for the

2:35:21 ↗ travel widths and I appreciate the

2:35:23 ↗ comments that were made by the person

2:35:26 ↗ from talus that was very helpful or from

2:35:28 ↗ timber Reid sorry and the things that I

2:35:31 ↗ would like to see at the next meeting

2:35:34 ↗ mid Commissioner Brennan brought up a

2:35:36 ↗ very good point about what this would

2:35:37 ↗ look like as you're driving up talus

2:35:39 ↗ drive that view of the wall in the

2:35:41 ↗ school and and the depiction of that

2:35:43 ↗ would be very helpful

2:35:46 ↗ I think the close-ups are the elevations

2:35:48 ↗ of the service area and what that's

2:35:50 ↗ going to look like for people walking by

2:35:53 ↗ their kids getting dropped off what

2:35:55 ↗ they're going to see how that's going to

2:35:57 ↗ feel and then more information on the

2:36:00 ↗ Destry Umbridge as well the school kid

2:36:03 ↗ bridge so thank you all very much I

2:36:08 ↗ would say if there are any speed control

2:36:11 ↗ measures that can be added at this point

2:36:13 ↗ in time with this process I understand

2:36:15 ↗ there's other processes and ways to go

2:36:17 ↗ about it but if there's anything that

2:36:18 ↗ can be done as part of this I would like

2:36:20 ↗ to see that condition 20 is about the

2:36:27 ↗ parking and there was mention of

2:36:29 ↗ reviewing that on an annual basis but

2:36:31 ↗ that's not in the condition so if that

2:36:33 ↗ could be added that's it for me

2:36:44 ↗ additionally just a quick comment I

2:36:49 ↗ agree with the previous comments from

2:36:51 ↗ the commissioners regarding the

2:36:53 ↗ additional information also I want to

2:36:55 ↗ emphasize as well the appreciation for

2:36:57 ↗ the great work preparing the staff

2:37:01 ↗ report documents and the plans and a

2:37:03 ↗ very creative design for a challenging

2:37:06 ↗ piece of property forest school but also

2:37:08 ↗ recognizing that the school is an asset

2:37:10 ↗ to the community and it really when this

2:37:14 ↗ is built in and in operation I think

2:37:16 ↗ will be just a wonderful thing

2:37:19 ↗ understanding the challenges that the

2:37:20 ↗ school district has it trying to find

2:37:22 ↗ property that it works for for the

2:37:24 ↗ purposes of a school so I think all

2:37:27 ↗ things considered I think the overall

2:37:29 ↗ design is a good solution at a location

2:37:32 ↗ that I think will work even with its

2:37:35 ↗ challenges the the parking management I

2:37:38 ↗ agree the parking management is

2:37:40 ↗ something we want to hear more about how

2:37:42 ↗ we're going to do that to ensure that

2:37:45 ↗ for those special events that we have a

2:37:48 ↗ solution I think that minimizes the

2:37:50 ↗ potential for problems on the property

2:37:52 ↗ in four adjacent properties I wanted to

2:37:55 ↗ emphasize that also agree with lane

2:37:58 ↗ width on Falcon Way and finding a

2:38:00 ↗ solution that allows for that wider

2:38:02 ↗ width there given the circumstances with

2:38:04 ↗ the short distance of the road there the

2:38:09 ↗ introduction of buses coming and going

2:38:12 ↗ etc it seems to make sense to me as well

2:38:15 ↗ I and also a final comment those may

2:38:18 ↗ just want to emphasize the idea of the

2:38:20 ↗ school districts ethic regarding

2:38:22 ↗ sustainability and kind of enhancing our

2:38:26 ↗ environment anything that you can do to

2:38:28 ↗ and include sustainable development

2:38:30 ↗ solutions into the project I think is a

2:38:33 ↗ great thing that is something that is a

2:38:35 ↗ strong ethic for the city of Issaquah I

2:38:38 ↗ think the school district shares that

2:38:39 ↗ one and obviously it benefits us all so

2:38:43 ↗ anything you can do to advance that

2:38:44 ↗ would be great

2:38:46 ↗ I echo my fellow commissioners comments

2:38:52 ↗ again great report thank you very much

2:38:54 ↗ an excellent presentation from the

2:38:55 ↗ applicant I'm a in agreement on widening

2:38:59 ↗ that Falcon way I think there's a lot

2:39:01 ↗ going on between the service areas and

2:39:03 ↗ the buses and the service areas that are

2:39:05 ↗ really providing service to timber rich

2:39:08 ↗ I mean there's there's a lot of

2:39:09 ↗ information there again I don't travel

2:39:13 ↗ up that road frequently but due to the

2:39:15 ↗ size of development I'm sure there's a

2:39:16 ↗ lot of service that's going on back

2:39:17 ↗ there I would like to see a little bit

2:39:20 ↗ more information about the pedestrian

2:39:21 ↗ bridge especially considering that it's

2:39:24 ↗ low looking at the elevation I am

2:39:27 ↗ starting to get a little bit worried

2:39:28 ↗ about not being covered with that slope

2:39:30 ↗ that's happening there so again how are

2:39:33 ↗ we gonna protect provide protecting

2:39:36 ↗ protective measures for from stuff being

2:39:39 ↗ thrown over and kids taking advantage of

2:39:41 ↗ that

2:39:42 ↗ I think that's yeah it's reciate it

2:39:51 ↗ thank you

2:39:51 ↗ did I ask one follow-up question I

2:39:55 ↗ wanted to follow up on commissioners

2:40:00 ↗ Brennan and Shores comment about the

2:40:03 ↗ parking management plan which is

2:40:06 ↗ condition as you identified 20 I think

2:40:10 ↗ the intent was that in condition number

2:40:12 ↗ one that it's part of that sort of

2:40:15 ↗ monitoring and I just asked if you could

2:40:18 ↗ take a look for a second and see if

2:40:20 ↗ that's the way it reads to you we're

2:40:23 ↗ happy to find to them but I don't want

2:40:26 ↗ to tell you we've already done it when

2:40:28 ↗ you read it and don't think it's been

2:40:29 ↗ done you give me a page number nine out

2:40:39 ↗ of two 78 and 82 out of 278

2:40:54 ↗ and you're also welcome to read it at

2:40:56 ↗ your leisure and let us know in the next

2:40:58 ↗ couple of days I'm not trying to put you

2:40:59 ↗ on the spot

2:41:31 ↗ you

2:41:39 ↗ I think it done reading the condition 20

2:41:43 ↗ regarding the specifics of the parking

2:41:47 ↗ management plan

2:41:48 ↗ I guess my what caught me when I read

2:41:52 ↗ that was just the timing of when you're

2:41:55 ↗ trying to reach agreement of what

2:41:58 ↗ aspects will be included in that parking

2:42:00 ↗ management plan if you can't come to

2:42:02 ↗ agreement and you've got a building

2:42:03 ↗ that's built now what no I I think your

2:42:07 ↗ points well made and I think we'll look

2:42:09 ↗ back on the timing and so maybe it was

2:42:13 ↗ more commissioner Shores I just wanted

2:42:16 ↗ to point out in the second paragraph of

2:42:18 ↗ number one that it includes on an

2:42:21 ↗ off-site special event parking

2:42:25 ↗ procedures and so that was our intent so

2:42:29 ↗ just think about that and let us know if

2:42:31 ↗ you think that is not getting at the

2:42:33 ↗ point you're making in terms of

2:42:35 ↗ monitoring it yeah I think there's just

2:42:37 ↗ no no definitive timeline it's the plan

2:42:41 ↗ will specify the frequency and the

2:42:44 ↗ timing of the reporting so can the

2:42:46 ↗ timing or the frequency be specified at

2:42:48 ↗ this point in time thank you on a

2:42:56 ↗ different note I did forget to mention

2:42:57 ↗ the blank facade treatments it would

2:43:00 ↗ great be great to see how you guys are

2:43:02 ↗ addressing that as well on those

2:43:04 ↗ elevations on page I think 58 it was so

2:43:06 ↗ thank you thanks again all right I think

2:43:13 ↗ that without further comment we will

2:43:17 ↗ adjourn tonight's meeting to our

2:43:21 ↗ regularly scheduled development

2:43:23 ↗ Commission meeting on February 5th at

2:43:26 ↗ 7:00 p.m. and the council chambers and

2:43:28 ↗ the item on tonight's meeting agenda the

2:43:30 ↗ public hearing for the site development

2:43:32 ↗ permit for the middle school number six

2:43:34 ↗ will be continued in that meeting before

2:43:36 ↗ we go once again I would like to express

2:43:38 ↗ my appreciation for the excellent work

2:43:42 ↗ that

2:43:43 ↗ the residents the public have made on I

2:43:45 ↗ think the project is better for the

2:43:48 ↗ comments that you make and I hope that

2:43:50 ↗ as we said if there are people that have

2:43:53 ↗ been watching this process and didn't

2:43:56 ↗ feel like driving down we'd still like

2:44:00 ↗ to hear your comments and as I said we'd

2:44:01 ↗ like to hear them earlier than later but

2:44:03 ↗ you still have an opportunity to be a

2:44:06 ↗ participant in this process and only as

2:44:09 ↗ you participate can we redeem our

2:44:12 ↗ responsibility to make sure that your

2:44:14 ↗ concerns are cared for so thank you very

2:44:16 ↗ much and drive safe it's probably going

2:44:18 ↗ to be a little slick out there so we're

2:44:21 ↗ adjourned

2:44:24 ↗ you

2:44:28 ↗ you

2:44:32 ↗ you

Approved minutes

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Attendance

Council / Members (10)

Richard Sowa

Mel Morgan

Michael Brennan

Kevin Price

Ben Rush

Richard Sanford

Arthur Schulte, Alt.

Brooke Shore

Mark Rigos, Alt.

Nischitha Venkatesh, Alt.

Staff (2)

Lucy Sloman, Land Development Mgr.

Katie Cole, Planning Consultant

Guests (5)

Rebecca Baibak, Integrus Architecture

Brian Gormley, Cornerstone Gen. Contractors

Jennifer Barnes, Heffron Transportation

Jason Morse, Issaquah School District

Tom Mullins, Issaquah School District

Recommendations & actions (5)

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a) It was the consensus of all Commissioners present that minutes of the Development Commission meeting on December 4, 2019 be approved as presented.
b) It was the consensus of all Commissioners present that minutes of the Development Commission meeting on December 18, 2019 be approved with the correction noted.
It was approved as a staff decision, she said, and briefly explained when seeking a deviation is appropriate versus an AAS.
He also said he thinks that having those measures agreed to before the certificate of occupancy is issued is too late, and that the decisions should be made before the building permit is issued.
SANFORD asked is there a way to ensure lights are not powered on until they are approved, as occurred at the Issaquah Middle School.