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Oh, and Arsen is right on time as well.
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welcome everyone. I want to call the
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June 29th city council meeting to order.
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There are no excused absences this
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evening. And before we begin, I'd like
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to make a change to the agenda to move
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regular business item uh C AB9192 school
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district interlocal agreement joint use
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development of facilities programs uh to
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occur before the park bond renewal. So
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right now that is item C. Park bond is
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item B. We would flip those two around.
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And is there any objection to swapping
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Not seeing any. That is how we will
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proceed for today's order of business.
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We now want to do the pledge of
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allegiance. Please join me if you're
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>> pledge allegiance to the flag of the
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United States of America and to the
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republic for which it stands, one nation
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under God, indivisible, with liberty and
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>> Okay. The next item of business is ID
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2049, disability pride month
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proclamation. And we're going to invite
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Rashny from Kindering to the Lecter. I
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will meet you up there.
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Whereas the American with Disabilities
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Act, ADA, was passed by the US Congress
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on July 26th, 1990 to ensure the civil
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rights of citizens with disabilities.
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And whereas the ADA is recognized as one
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of the most important civil rights laws
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in history. Whereas the city of Isqua
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acknowledges the barriers and challenges
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faced by individuals with disabilities,
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including societal attitudes, built and
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architectural barriers, lack of
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accessibility discrimination and
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unequal opportunities. And whereas
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disability pride month is a time to
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celebrate the achievements,
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contributions, and resiliency of
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individuals with disabilities in our
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community and to promote inclusion,
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acceptance, and understanding of
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disability as a natural part of human
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diversity. Whereas we appreciate the
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efforts of disability rights activists,
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organizations, and advocates who work
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tirelessly to advance the rights,
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independence, and well-being of
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individuals with disabilities and to
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create a more inclusive and accessible
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world for all. Now therefore, I, Mark
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Mullet, mayor of the city of Isquad, do
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hereby proclaim the month of July 2026
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to be disability pride month in the city
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of Isqua and invite the community and
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join me in celebrating individuals with
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Wally, do you want to do the picture
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>> We'll do the rush. Then you're
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Good evening, Mayor Mallet, council
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members, and city staff. I'm Roshni
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Karthikayan and I serve as the
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communications lead at Kindering. I'm
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here tonight on behalf of Kindering and
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as a resident of Isiqua to thank you for
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recognizing disability pride month. As
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you may know, Kindred is a local
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nonprofit serving children with
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disabilities, developmental delays, and
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diverse needs. We provide early
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supports, pediatric therapies, inclusive
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preschool, and more. Last year, we
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served 126 young children from the city
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of Isiqua. So why is disability pride
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important to kindering? It is important
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because we work with lots of wonderful
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little kids with disabilities who will
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grow up into wonderful adults with
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disabilities and we want them to grow up
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in a world that supports, includes, and
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celebrates them for who they are.
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Morgan, a kindering parent shared, open
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quote, I celebrate disability pride
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because I am so incredibly proud of my
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daughter. She faces challenges that many
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people never see. Yet, she meets the
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world with determination, resilience,
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and one of the biggest smiles I've ever
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known. Watching her navigate obstacles,
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finding joy in little things, and
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continue to grow into exactly who she
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has, who she is has taught me so much.
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Disability pride is about celebrating
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her, honoring her experiences, and
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recognizing the strength, value, and
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beauty she brings into the world just by
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being herself. Close quote. And that is
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exactly why what you're doing with this
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proclamation today. You're sending a
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clear message to our families that you
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care about their kids now. You will care
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about them as adults and you will treat
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them with the respect and dignity that
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they deserve. We appreciate the city
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promoting disability inclusion in the
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small but powerful way. On behalf of
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Kindering, once again, thank you all so
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>> Thank you. Thank you.
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Next is ID 2046 parks and community
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services month and I think we have Jeff
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whereas parks, recreation and community
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services are an integral part of our
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community. And whereas parks and
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community services strengthen his
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squad's identity by providing
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exceptional parks, trails, green spaces,
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and recreation facilities that reflect
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and celebrate community character,
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history culture aesthetics and
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landscape. And yes, all parks people
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keep coming up. This is good. Uh whereas
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Esqua Parks and Community Services
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fosters social cohesiveness and creates
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memorable experiences through
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recreational arts and human service
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programs that provide opportunities to
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come together, promote social equity,
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connect social networks, and ensure the
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entire community has access to these
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program benefits. And whereas Isqua
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Parks and Community Services helps to
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sustain and steward our natural
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resources by protecting open space and
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habitat, connecting people to nature,
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promoting the vital ecological function
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of our city-owned public land, and
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increasing our resilience in the face of
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natural disaster threats and climate
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change. Now therefore, I, Mark Mullet,
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mayor of the city of Isqua, do hereby
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proclaim July 2026 to be parks and
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community services month in the city of
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Isqua and invite the community to join
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me in thanking the staff of the parks
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and community service department for
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their service and outstanding
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Okay, we doing a bigger joint photo,
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>> we'll do it with all team.
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>> Well, thank you. Thank you, Mayor. Uh,
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thank you, councel. Um, as a
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proclamation certainly would would
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suggest, uh, this department is a
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compilation of a lot of diverse
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professionals and a lot of diverse, um,
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services provided to the to the
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community. Um, this is very well res
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represented in and some of the staff who
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are are here to join us. I'm seeing if
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LCA Monahan from human services joined
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as well. She didn't, but let me
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introduce um, this certainly again
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reflects the diversity and the and the
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just the value and strength of this
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department. Amy Dukes uh, with our arts
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team, arts manager. Um, Brandon Fesus
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with our recreation team at the
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community center. Morgan Sheen uh, park
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operations uh, and Robin Spear and park
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planning. Um, when you think about
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recreation and human services and arts
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and park operations and park planning,
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uh, we really are a five ring circus.
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Um, they are all connected. They all do
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make sense. Um, it's an amazing team
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that really, uh, loves this community
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and, uh, loves loves, um, helping, uh,
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Isua be a better place, uh, day by day.
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Okay. Next item of business is audience
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comments. Uh comments can be made in
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person or virtual. And if you sign in
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advance, you will be called on first.
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And if you're doing it virtually, you
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can raise your virtual hand. If you're
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on the phone, you have the option to do
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star three. Uh, as a reminder, written
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comments can also be submitted at any
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time to city council. It is quais.gov.
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And madame clerk, uh, we want to start
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calling up the folks who signed up.
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Okay. Next, Chandra Ryder.
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>> Good evening. My name is Shandra Ryder
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and I live in the Talis neighborhood
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with my wife Sarah. Um before I get
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started, I want to thank the city
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council, the mayor, and the city
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administrator. Over the last couple of
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months since we've started coming to
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council meetings, we have discovered
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that we are very lucky in Isiqua to have
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a leadership team that is so engaged in
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the community and really appreciates the
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input and listens to the input um and
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takes that feedback seriously. We are
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proud to support a lot of the
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initiatives that the council has put
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forward and approved um such as the T
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performance improvement plan, um the
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environmental plans. Um we're happy to
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support the opportunity center tonight
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and the park spawn. Um I'm also going to
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be commenting on the appointment of our
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new police chief. And that's again where
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I want to extend my thanks to everybody
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that I'm looking at for um taking our
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comments and our feedback seriously and
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helping arrange a community meeting last
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night where we could talk directly with
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Chief Milelet. Um he what I want to say
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about that first and foremost and what
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took all of us by surprise the most was
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how open he was. Um he answered all of
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our questions. Um he gave us more
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context. He went above and beyond. and I
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have lots of experience working with
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police chiefs. Those are rare qualities
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that you see in a police chief. So, um I
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want to thank Chief Mlet for his time. I
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want to thank Mayor Mullet and the city
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council for helping arrange that
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meeting. Um as I told him last night, my
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personal red flags have been turned into
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yellow flags. And um I support the
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council's decision tonight, whichever
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way that that goes. if he is appointed
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as police chief. He has shared his ideas
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and his goals for the city of Isiqua.
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And uh I understand with my experience
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that that's going to take all of us to
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implement those ideas. I think those
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ideas are great ideas and I think
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they're very progressive for any police
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department. Um and I hope that we all as
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a commit community and a city can rise
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to the challenge of supporting that.
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>> So, I also live in Talis with my wife.
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Um, yeah, I just wanted to thank
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everyone for arranging the community
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meeting with Chief Mallette. Um, we
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definitely had some concerns going into
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it and like she said, we've both worked
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with a lot of chief of policees,
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polices, chief, I don't know, multiple
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people who are chief of police, I don't
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know how to say it. Anyways, um, and we
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did notice just how open he was. He
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wasn't defensive. I I told him myself, I
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said, 'You know, if someone asked me,
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hey, do you want to go into a room where
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everyone's going to talk about the worst
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day you've ever had on the job and, you
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know, criticize your work? Do you want
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to do that? I'd be like, no, I'm I'm
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good. Thank you. But no. And he was
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willing to do that. He was willing to
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meet with us. He didn't know what he was
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walking into. Um, and we were just taken
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aback by just his his openness, his
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honesty. Um, so yes, I I will say for
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myself, I would be a yes for him. I do
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think he is uh an excellent um person
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and we look forward to helping his
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vision come to fruition in Isqua and
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also yes for park bonds yes for
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>> Thank you very much. I might start
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paying you to come to more meetings and
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just keep testifying. Uh madam clerk,
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>> no one further is signed up and we don't
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have anyone from the public with us
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>> Oh hey, this is your chance.
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>> Oh, you're okay. Come on up. Just share
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your name, your relationship with the
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>> I am Terry Fulton. I have lived in
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Isiqua for 41 years, seen many, many
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changes, and I am here to support the
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parks bond. Um, I'm representing the
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pickle ball community. Um, and I have
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many friends who are also tennis players
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and I can say actually I was talking to
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they happen to be one of my clients
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today. I was talking to them and she is
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a tennis player and I was saying oh do
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you play at Tibbitz? And she goes oh no
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the pickle ball players have overtaken
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it and that's sort of like um that's not
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exactly the case. And then she goes yeah
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well the pickleball players play on the
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first court where the backboard is. We
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can't even go there and hit balls on the
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backboard. So, I strongly support the
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bond that would um uh put more pickle
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ball courts up in um Central Park. Um I
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know, you know, everyone in the pickle
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ball community would really appreciate
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that. It's, you know, tough in the
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summer. You know, we we play outside in
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the winter. You know, we're playing in
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at the community center and, you know,
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we we love that. And um anyway, I just
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wanted to come here and say I think it's
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very important that we are able to fund
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>> Excellent. Thank you very much. So Mark,
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June 29th, 2026 is the day everyone
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discovered there's a pickle ball lobby
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in Isiqua and it's alive and well. And
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uh is there anybody else wishing to
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comment? It is totally Oh, come on up.
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The lights are left on uh old time about
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18 years. This is what they call just in
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time training or uh inventory. So flash
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back to work. So leaving that aside, uh
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I guess I want to talk on four topics
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tonight. Share with you thoughts that I
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had. Uh, I'm going to briefly pull up my
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cell phone, not because I'm watching for
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the phone, but I kind remind myself to
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keep on track with what we're talking
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So, basically, I'll probably forget some
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of what I'm going to say, but I want to
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be respectful of your time. Uh, the
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first on the park bond proposal, thanks
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for director Watlin for meeting with me.
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Uh first thing is that I'm strongly
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opposed because I don't think we've had
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a chance to define what our park
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priorities are. We're not g we're gonna
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some odd million dollar chance at this.
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We haven't really identified what I
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think what our priorities are strong
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enough is communitywide. We're pushing
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this to go through before we've had time
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to identify what those priorities are.
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Uh that said, I want to be transparent.
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I'm a big opponent of the dark park in
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any form. it kind of got wedged in, but
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I wanted to be transparent and about
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that in front. Uh I just think we're
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rushing this and go now. We're not going
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to get the priorities we need. We're
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gonna end up with some facilities that
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are going to be need to be replaced or
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maintained before we have a chance to
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find those. So, I'd ask you to
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uh wait until we find that better. Uh
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that's my big concern concern with it.
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We haven't taken the time to identify
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what those priorities are. I'm admit I'm
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not a fan of some of the while I'm a fan
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of the X house most I don't also don't
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know that I see that we're in a dire
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need for more hacking trails in we're
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already well known for that. There's
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just too many questions. I'm sorry. I do
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have to look at my cell phone to remind
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myself of the other things I want to
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I guess I also don't know about the
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playfield facilities. I don't know that
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we are gearing up towards a larger
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the city our size normally has for this
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type of facilities. So, I'm tend to be
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inclined against the uh is is a quest
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school district in the city on local
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agreements with park facilities. Uh
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transitorian development. I like the
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idea, but we've just been told we're
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going to be back in 2050 for a park for
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a transitory or transitory development
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I guess I don't think we've looked at
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this realistically enough to say what it
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uh expect to get development from the
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train coming through. Uh I've always
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been I'm getting off target a little
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the step back the step back step backs
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15. The way I heard it explained one
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time is there was a proposal to change
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this step step back from the bottom of
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the fifth floor to the bottom of the
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sixth floor. That was defeated in the
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PPC. I'd like to see that reinstated at
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the fifth floor. But more realistically,
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I'd like us to look at all the things we
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talked about. We defined a set of
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culture and criteria things we wanted
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when we agreed to become a regional
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growth center. And we just need to be
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setting these aside and not defining
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what the things are that we want. When
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we decided to become regional growth
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center, we said some things we wanted to
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have maintained and we're not defining
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what those are. We're just going through
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and changing them without understanding
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what we lose or why those are
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maintained. So, I disagree with the step
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bottom of the fifth floor rather than
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the bottom of the sixth floor as was
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recommended by the PBC. I'd also like to
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uh community area with inside each of
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building units not decrease the the
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minimum facilities. With that, I rambled
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long enough. Thank you for your time. I
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>> All right. Thank you very much, Steve.
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Is there anybody else here for audience
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Looking going once, going twice. With
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that, audience comments are closed. Uh
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the next item of business is the consent
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calendar. I do not have any remarks on
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the consent calendar. Do any of the
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committee chairs or chairs as Oh,
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council member Walsh. Thank you. Um,
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let's see. Get my email up here. Um, I
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just want to take a moment to speak
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about AB 91182, which is the title 18
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land use code clarifying amendments.
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This item was reviewed by the planning,
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development, environment committee on
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June 2nd. It's essentially cleanup and
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clarifications that have been building
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up over the last year. So I wanted to
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clarify that this does not include any
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of the promoting building business
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promoting building investment work
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scheduled for the next two years that we
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recently adopted we recently approved
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that's coming later in the meeting as
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the first item. This is just the
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clarifying items and we supported this
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>> Right. Thank you very much. Uh consent
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calendar was distributed in advance. Uh
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they will be approved in one motion.
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Have payables and payroll been reviewed?
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>> I see two. Uh does any council want to
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remove any items from the consent
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>> Not seeing any. Is there a motion?
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>> Mr. Mayor, I move we approve the consent
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calendar as presented in tonight's
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>> There's been a motion and a second. Uh
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all those in favor, please say I.
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>> Those opposed? Nay. And that passes
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unanimously. So that takes us to the
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first item of regular business, which is
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the police chief appointment. And so, as
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we know, Chief Paul Schwan retired on
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June 1st of this year, and we then had a
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nationwide search uh to find a new
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police chief. We did have, I think it
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was 21 applicants apply for that job. We
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had three people come in from various
22:04 ↗
locations in the country, uh, plus one
22:07 ↗
internal candidate, and we had a group
22:08 ↗
of panels. It was community panels. It
22:11 ↗
was staff panels. Uh folks from the
22:13 ↗
council, three council members were on
22:15 ↗
the panel. We had a member from the
22:17 ↗
equity board on the panel. And uh and so
22:20 ↗
everyone got a chance to interview these
22:21 ↗
four finalists that were there that day.
22:24 ↗
And then I basically took into
22:26 ↗
consideration the recommendations from
22:27 ↗
those various panels. And that's how we
22:29 ↗
landed on Chief Steve Milelet. And I
22:33 ↗
would say when I first went to the
22:36 ↗
conference of mayors back in January and
22:37 ↗
you get a chance to ask mayors like
22:39 ↗
what's your advice in terms of being new
22:41 ↗
to this role and it's unanimous. Every
22:44 ↗
mayor says the most important hire
22:45 ↗
you'll make is your chief of police. And
22:48 ↗
so I think out of the gate I took this
22:50 ↗
decision very seriously to make sure
22:52 ↗
that we did pick someone that we thought
22:55 ↗
could represent this community. And to
22:58 ↗
be honest, it was really nice to hear
22:59 ↗
the comments. Uh to go from two red
23:02 ↗
lights to a yellow light and a green
23:04 ↗
light makes me want Chief Mlet to be in
23:06 ↗
my passenger seat cuz I seem to hit a
23:08 ↗
lot of red lights every time I come to
23:09 ↗
city hall and they seem to be red longer
23:11 ↗
than I want them to be. So that's really
23:13 ↗
a testament I think to why I do think we
23:15 ↗
have a good candidate here. And uh and
23:19 ↗
with that, is there a motion?
23:25 ↗
And the motion would be I'm looking to
23:32 ↗
to confirm the mayor's appointment of
23:34 ↗
>> So the motion is to confirm Steve
23:36 ↗
Milelet as Council President Marks. I
23:40 ↗
move we approve uh the mayor's
23:44 ↗
appointment of Steve Milelet as chief of
23:46 ↗
police for the city of Isaklaw.
23:51 ↗
>> Okay, there is a motion and a second. Is
23:54 ↗
there any council discussion? Council
23:58 ↗
>> Um thank you. I wanted to start out by
24:01 ↗
just saying I really appreciate the
24:03 ↗
public engagement on this topic. This is
24:05 ↗
another one where we got um quite a few
24:07 ↗
emails and there were quite a few
24:09 ↗
questions on there, but it wasn't a
24:12 ↗
point where people stopped with just
24:15 ↗
questions. They further talked to
24:17 ↗
council members and they said, "What was
24:19 ↗
your perspective?" And we had council
24:21 ↗
members talk to other council members
24:23 ↗
from Belleview um who had history with
24:26 ↗
Chief Milelet. And so there was a lot of
24:29 ↗
due diligence on this. Um there are
24:32 ↗
three things that your city council does
24:35 ↗
really truly. One is approve a budget
24:38 ↗
that spends your money based on your
24:40 ↗
priorities. Um the second is set
24:42 ↗
policies across the city. And the third
24:45 ↗
is approve the hiring of our top
24:47 ↗
officials. And all three of those are
24:50 ↗
really the important areas where we're
24:53 ↗
doing our due diligence and where the
24:55 ↗
public's feedback is really essential.
24:58 ↗
Um, I participated on that hiring
25:00 ↗
committee with two other council members
25:03 ↗
as I also did when we hired former Chief
25:05 ↗
Paula Schwan and I was very impressed
25:08 ↗
with um, Chief Millet's experience,
25:11 ↗
knowledge of the area um, and just the
25:14 ↗
way that he engaged on this interview.
25:16 ↗
So, I am very grateful that we have this
25:19 ↗
opportunity to make this decision. you
25:21 ↗
know, sometimes we go through a national
25:23 ↗
hiring process and the candidates just
25:26 ↗
don't bubble up to the level of what we
25:30 ↗
need in ESUA. And so, it was really nice
25:32 ↗
to see um someone come through that did
25:35 ↗
that the um hiring committees uh were
25:39 ↗
looking at it and saying, "Yes, this is
25:40 ↗
a really good fit." And then to have the
25:43 ↗
public come through and really ask the
25:46 ↗
questions and um see Chief Milelet
25:50 ↗
respond to that and say yes. Yes, I want
25:52 ↗
to meet with everybody. Yes, I want to
25:55 ↗
have that engagement really confirmed um
25:58 ↗
that decision for me. So I am in full
26:00 ↗
support and I appreciate that we have
26:06 ↗
>> Excellent. Uh oh, Deputy President Jay.
26:10 ↗
>> Great. Um, yeah, I want to echo
26:12 ↗
everything that Council Member Walsh
26:14 ↗
said. Um, I also had the opportunity to
26:16 ↗
serve on the interview panel alongside
26:18 ↗
representatives from the community,
26:19 ↗
Council President Martz, Council Member
26:21 ↗
Walsh, and um, Chief Millet was the
26:23 ↗
unanimous top choice of every member of
26:25 ↗
our panel based on his responses. Um,
26:28 ↗
also, you know, I will note that after
26:30 ↗
um, he was announced as the newly
26:32 ↗
appointed police chief, you know, I go
26:34 ↗
to various events and everyone who I
26:35 ↗
talked to from Belleview was very
26:37 ↗
excited like, "Oh, I heard you have a
26:38 ↗
new police chief. who's our old police
26:40 ↗
chief. Um, and so, you know, heard a lot
26:42 ↗
of positive feedback from folks in
26:44 ↗
Belleview as well. Um, I think one thing
26:48 ↗
that a lot of members of the public
26:50 ↗
might not be aware of is that we operate
26:53 ↗
jail and given our recent record here in
26:55 ↗
Isiqua, including two overdose deaths in
26:58 ↗
2023. I believe it's really crucial that
27:00 ↗
we have a police chief who genuinely
27:02 ↗
cares about the well-being in everyone,
27:04 ↗
every single person in our care. And
27:06 ↗
based on our conversations with Chief
27:08 ↗
Milelet, I believe he cares and will do
27:11 ↗
the work to make sure that we are, you
27:13 ↗
know, living up to our values here in
27:16 ↗
Um, in both Belron, also Chief Millet
27:19 ↗
made progress in diversifying the police
27:21 ↗
force to represent the communities he
27:23 ↗
served. Um, in particular in Belleview,
27:25 ↗
one, um, example that I think I heard
27:28 ↗
from someone, one of the council members
27:30 ↗
in Belleview that I talked to was that,
27:32 ↗
you know, when there was a rise in
27:33 ↗
anti-Asian hate crimes in the beginning
27:35 ↗
of the pandemic, you know, he actually
27:36 ↗
brought in one of the officers who was
27:38 ↗
Chinese to speak, you know, to the
27:40 ↗
community in Chinese. And for me as a
27:42 ↗
Chinese American, I think that's really
27:43 ↗
meaningful. And so I have full faith
27:44 ↗
that he'll be able to do um, similar
27:47 ↗
work to engage the community here in
27:48 ↗
Isiqua, which I think is an area where,
27:50 ↗
you know, we could make some progress. I
27:53 ↗
will also say, you know, there have been
27:54 ↗
a lot of questions that have arisen
27:56 ↗
through this process that's been raised
27:58 ↗
by the community and they do deserve to
28:00 ↗
be taken seriously and I want to give a
28:01 ↗
huge kudos to Chief Mlet for, you know,
28:04 ↗
taking the time yesterday and for our
28:06 ↗
community members on such short notice
28:07 ↗
to, you know, spend two hours talking
28:09 ↗
through all of these items. I would say,
28:12 ↗
you know, my yes vote comes with an
28:14 ↗
expectation that Chief Millet engages
28:15 ↗
openly, acts with accountability, and
28:17 ↗
demonstrates through his conduct that
28:19 ↗
these concerns were heard. and I know
28:21 ↗
that, you know, he's taken a good first
28:23 ↗
step with that with yesterday's
28:24 ↗
community meeting, but we know that we
28:26 ↗
all need to continue to do the work to
28:28 ↗
earn the trust of the community. And
28:31 ↗
>> All right, Council Member Adair.
28:35 ↗
>> Uh, yes. So, yeah, so echoing the same
28:38 ↗
statements. Um, I really tried to kind
28:40 ↗
of feel the weight of this decision as
28:42 ↗
really being kind of the most important
28:43 ↗
uh vote I'm have likely made thus far.
28:47 ↗
um and really put a lot of thought and
28:49 ↗
research and care into this. Um you know
28:51 ↗
I was not on the you know the interview
28:52 ↗
committee but so once his name came up I
28:54 ↗
tried to really research look at his
28:56 ↗
background look at the informations we
28:57 ↗
were provided in terms of his
28:59 ↗
application and really do my uh due
29:02 ↗
diligence u met with him privately also
29:04 ↗
to ask a lot of the questions and some
29:06 ↗
of the questions that have been brought
29:06 ↗
up to us. Um and I felt through all of
29:09 ↗
that that I did feel that he was the
29:12 ↗
right person for the job. Um, you know,
29:14 ↗
I was looking for someone who would
29:16 ↗
really prioritize um, community- based
29:18 ↗
policing that would be um, trying to
29:21 ↗
build a lot of trust with the community
29:23 ↗
with, you know, all demographics, all
29:25 ↗
the people that are a part of this
29:26 ↗
community. Um, I really wanted, you
29:28 ↗
know, to create a very positive trusting
29:30 ↗
relationship between the police and
29:32 ↗
emphasis on the serve aspect of that
29:34 ↗
role. Um, and, you know, his answers,
29:38 ↗
you know, gave me confidence that he
29:40 ↗
would do that. um you know so I you know
29:45 ↗
as he's said and through his meetings I
29:47 ↗
do think he has promised to bring a lot
29:49 ↗
of transparency to really work with
29:51 ↗
people and meet people where they are
29:53 ↗
and that I feel he is going to work with
29:56 ↗
council and the residents to really
29:58 ↗
build something you know from the
29:59 ↗
community up really do the job and you
30:02 ↗
know most importantly listen to what we
30:04 ↗
have to say and what we want out of this
30:05 ↗
police force so for all those reasons I
30:07 ↗
will be voting to confirm yes for his
30:11 ↗
Thank you, Council Member Boyd.
30:14 ↗
>> Thank you. Um, echoing off of the
30:18 ↗
comments of my colleagues here that I
30:20 ↗
have been very impressed um, overall
30:22 ↗
with Chief Milelet and how he's really
30:24 ↗
been able to just run head-on into any
30:26 ↗
questions that he's faced. um you know
30:28 ↗
the concerns from the community I don't
30:31 ↗
take those lightly and um I've been able
30:33 ↗
to ask and um get his context uh for the
30:38 ↗
concerns that have come up and I know
30:39 ↗
he's addressed those himself as well and
30:42 ↗
um I think it just goes to the fact that
30:46 ↗
um one of the council members mentioned
30:47 ↗
how just the steward of trust that the
30:50 ↗
police chief is and um based off of the
30:53 ↗
decision-m skills um your leadership
30:56 ↗
I've seen and just your brief weekend
30:58 ↗
here. I'm very encouraged by that and I
31:01 ↗
think you know I know I'll keep watching
31:04 ↗
to see how that continues. Um should you
31:08 ↗
be confirmed and um I for based off what
31:12 ↗
I've seen from your character this
31:18 ↗
Chief Miley Chanel, Council Member
31:20 ↗
Boyd's mom was a police officer and
31:22 ↗
council member Adair's stepfather was a
31:24 ↗
police officer in Texas actually for uh
31:29 ↗
>> Thank you. So uh this is an
31:32 ↗
extraordinarily important uh
31:33 ↗
appointment. Public safety has become in
31:38 ↗
recent years such a complicated topic
31:40 ↗
around our nation and I'm from
31:41 ↗
Minneapolis so I've seen it, you know,
31:45 ↗
horribly impact otherwise. um otherwise
31:49 ↗
great places to live where where
31:50 ↗
communities had a hard time defining how
31:52 ↗
they needed the public safety system to
31:54 ↗
operate. So u this subject of the
31:57 ↗
officer involved shooting in Akran came
31:59 ↗
up in the interview panel and one of the
32:01 ↗
things that impressed me uh about Steve
32:05 ↗
was that he was real honest about uh the
32:08 ↗
process that they went through um the
32:12 ↗
challenges that he had with his police
32:14 ↗
force. You know, one of the pieces of
32:16 ↗
information that that people didn't
32:19 ↗
necessarily know until they got involved
32:21 ↗
in the conversation over the last couple
32:22 ↗
weeks is is when you talk about the
32:26 ↗
importance of public safety, um you
32:29 ↗
know, having the when he was chief there
32:32 ↗
in Akran, um he got the Ohio Attorney
32:35 ↗
General's Bureau of Criminal
32:36 ↗
Investigation involved in that officer
32:38 ↗
involved shooting. um that's a standard
32:40 ↗
of public safety that we have in
32:42 ↗
Washington and it was an element of
32:44 ↗
understanding that if he was going to
32:46 ↗
become our chief that he would
32:48 ↗
understand um how we view public safety
32:51 ↗
in this community. So it was it was
32:52 ↗
really really important to me. He also
32:54 ↗
talked about his engagement with
32:56 ↗
communities of color during that uh
32:59 ↗
during that time which which was you
33:01 ↗
know so traumatic for the folks of
33:03 ↗
Akran. Um and so it I you know really
33:06 ↗
really impressed me that um he would
33:08 ↗
keep our communities of color and our
33:10 ↗
historically underrepresented
33:12 ↗
communities here in Isiqua safe. So it
33:14 ↗
made me very positive about him as a
33:17 ↗
applicant and I'll be excited to support
33:19 ↗
his uh confirmation this evening. Thank
33:22 ↗
>> Thank you. Council member Nichols.
33:25 ↗
>> Thank you. Um before I say anything
33:27 ↗
else, I want to just thank everybody who
33:29 ↗
put the time and effort into this
33:30 ↗
process. I I know this is a lot of work
33:32 ↗
from the staff. um managing a long
33:35 ↗
executive search like this takes a lot
33:37 ↗
of time and it needs to be done very
33:38 ↗
carefully. Um also my fellow council
33:40 ↗
members for all the seriousness that
33:42 ↗
they've brought into it and the uh
33:44 ↗
concerns from the community and the
33:45 ↗
comments from the community. I think uh
33:47 ↗
hiring is the most consequential
33:50 ↗
consequential decision any organization
33:52 ↗
makes and uh it really is worth getting
33:54 ↗
right. Uh and I'm really grateful for
33:56 ↗
the care everybody has put into getting
33:57 ↗
it right. Um I will admit I was very
34:00 ↗
concerned about a number of things. I
34:02 ↗
read both in the press that were emailed
34:04 ↗
to us uh and that members of the public
34:06 ↗
have brought before us. Um after
34:09 ↗
listening to Chief Mlet extensively
34:10 ↗
though, including two hours yesterday
34:12 ↗
that I joined to listen to joined uh
34:14 ↗
with him uh to listen on my part as he
34:17 ↗
spent his Sunday talking with community
34:18 ↗
members who did not pull punches on any
34:20 ↗
of those topics. I will say I am greatly
34:23 ↗
reassured. Um I particularly look
34:26 ↗
forward to seeing him implement the
34:27 ↗
community engagement efforts he's
34:29 ↗
described. Uh we have many different
34:30 ↗
groups within Isqua, some of whom are
34:33 ↗
very comfortable writing in, speaking
34:34 ↗
up, and advocating for both themselves
34:36 ↗
and others. We also have many
34:38 ↗
communities that demonstrabably do not,
34:40 ↗
and we never hear from them. I was
34:42 ↗
impressed with the efforts he led in
34:43 ↗
Belleview to bring in diverse members of
34:45 ↗
his community and give them a voice. He
34:47 ↗
bragged that he has seen crime numbers
34:49 ↗
go up after instituting these in the
34:51 ↗
past, not because crime has increased,
34:52 ↗
but because the residents are
34:54 ↗
comfortable reporting them. I look
34:56 ↗
forward to seeing that same in Isqua and
34:58 ↗
hope we can all be good partners in
34:59 ↗
making everyone in our community feel
35:01 ↗
the safety they deserve. So, I will be a
35:05 ↗
>> Thank you, Council Member Joe.
35:07 ↗
>> Thank you. I also will be a yes this
35:09 ↗
evening. Um just want to let uh the
35:13 ↗
community know my perspective a little
35:15 ↗
bit. As many of you know, um I have
35:17 ↗
served as the prom judge here in the
35:20 ↗
Isqua District Court. Used to be here.
35:22 ↗
it's now cross town, but uh served on
35:25 ↗
the bench here. I al also served as a
35:28 ↗
prosecuting attorney for four east side
35:30 ↗
cities for over 10 years. Um so I bring
35:34 ↗
that perspective to this um process
35:37 ↗
along the way. And uh it was interesting
35:40 ↗
because I I wasn't scheduled to meet
35:43 ↗
with Steve until Sunday, but on Friday I
35:47 ↗
was having breakfast at a local uh
35:49 ↗
restaurant and and uh he happened to be
35:52 ↗
there uh with uh our city administrator.
35:55 ↗
And so I sat down with him and started
35:58 ↗
peppering him with questions. I was
36:00 ↗
quite impressed that he was able to um
36:09 ↗
uh in stride and and answer questions um
36:13 ↗
to my full reassurance and the the full
36:17 ↗
uh ability to uh address my concerns
36:21 ↗
there. Um, one of the things that I was
36:23 ↗
impressed with was the again the
36:26 ↗
Belleview process where he brought in
36:28 ↗
um, Aar Bian from the Asian community
36:31 ↗
uh, and other leaders in minority
36:35 ↗
communities to work on community
36:37 ↗
policing. And one of the last questions
36:39 ↗
I asked him was that I know that it was
36:41 ↗
from a different time, but we used to
36:44 ↗
have police officers that came to our
36:46 ↗
Rotary Club meetings and our Kowanas
36:50 ↗
meetings and showed up at the different
36:52 ↗
events. And he goes, he said, "I I
36:56 ↗
really want to reinstitute that because
36:58 ↗
community policing is so important to
36:59 ↗
me. Our officers and our police
37:01 ↗
department doesn't know what's happening
37:02 ↗
in our community unless we're part of
37:04 ↗
the community and involved with the
37:06 ↗
community." And that um really impressed
37:09 ↗
me as well because it's pleasing on one
37:12 ↗
hand, but it's community building on the
37:14 ↗
other. And I think Steve's going to
37:16 ↗
bring that both aspects of that to this
37:18 ↗
job. And I fully support his uh
37:20 ↗
confirmation uh this evening. Thank you.
37:24 ↗
>> Thank you very much. If there's no
37:25 ↗
further discussion, the motion for the
37:27 ↗
council is to confirm the mayor's
37:28 ↗
appointment of Stephen Mlet as police
37:30 ↗
chief of the city of Isqua effective
37:32 ↗
July 16th, 2026. All those in favor,
37:38 ↗
>> All those opposed? Nay. That passes
37:41 ↗
unanimously. So, please join me in
37:43 ↗
welcoming Chief Mlet. And Chief Mlette,
37:44 ↗
if you want to meet me up here, you can
37:58 ↗
>> Good evening, Mayor Mullet, members of
38:00 ↗
council, Mr. Bobitz. Um, I I'm humbled.
38:04 ↗
I truly truly am. Um um I feel a
38:07 ↗
tremendous amount of pride. Um I thank
38:10 ↗
you for your confidence and your
38:12 ↗
support. I promise you the things that I
38:14 ↗
say I will deliver on. What you see
38:16 ↗
truly is what you get there. I whatever
38:18 ↗
I say comes out of my mouth is the truth
38:20 ↗
as I know it to be in that moment. Um I
38:23 ↗
am very very excited to be joining uh
38:26 ↗
the leadership team and leading the men
38:28 ↗
and women of the Isqua Police
38:30 ↗
Department. I don't say this because of
38:32 ↗
the confirmation. I remember this when I
38:35 ↗
was a chief in Belleview. You have a
38:37 ↗
good police department. You truly do.
38:40 ↗
And as I was driving around on Sunday
38:42 ↗
morning with Officer James and we're
38:44 ↗
driving through the neighborhoods, I saw
38:46 ↗
something that I hadn't seen in a very
38:48 ↗
very long time. People actually waving
38:50 ↗
at the police, a dad standing there with
38:53 ↗
his his son, his probably four years
38:54 ↗
old, pointing at the police car as we're
38:56 ↗
coming up and encouraging him to wave.
38:59 ↗
To me, that's that shows me and is a
39:01 ↗
testament to the relationship between
39:04 ↗
the police and this community. There's
39:06 ↗
always room for improvement, always. But
39:08 ↗
whatever foundation that of positivity
39:11 ↗
that I'm inheriting, we're just going to
39:12 ↗
continue to build off of. Um, and yes, I
39:16 ↗
do listen intently and I thank the
39:19 ↗
community um for their questions and the
39:22 ↗
opportunity to allow me to present the
39:24 ↗
Paul Harvey rest of the story. Um, and
39:27 ↗
and I I promise you I will not let you
39:30 ↗
down. I thank you very much, mayor, for
39:31 ↗
for the nomination. Um, and I can't wait
39:34 ↗
to get back to the Pacific Northwest and
39:36 ↗
this beautiful, beautiful community.
39:45 ↗
I know. I think Ohio right now is 30°
39:48 ↗
warmer with 100% humidity. Uh, Council
39:52 ↗
Member Dere, this may only be your most
39:54 ↗
important vote until two more items.
39:55 ↗
when you get a vote for pickle ball. So
39:57 ↗
that's uh so chief millet going to enjoy
39:59 ↗
his moment of glory for at least a
40:01 ↗
couple agenda items. Uh the next is
40:03 ↗
agenda bill 9192 is cross school
40:05 ↗
district and city interlocal agreement
40:07 ↗
for joint use and development of
40:08 ↗
facilities programs maintenance and
40:11 ↗
operations and parks director Jeff
40:16 ↗
>> All right, mayor. Thank you so much.
40:18 ↗
Good evening council. Uh Jeff Watling
40:20 ↗
again. Um and thank you Tisha uh Clerk
40:24 ↗
Gieser for uh running the slides on both
40:27 ↗
of these presentations back toback. So
40:29 ↗
thanks so much. Um next slide
40:34 ↗
with this item uh the joint use
40:36 ↗
agreement with this school district.
40:38 ↗
purpose um and recommendation. Uh the
40:40 ↗
purpose is uh uh to present um our
40:43 ↗
recommendation administration's
40:45 ↗
recommendation and seek um your
40:47 ↗
authorization for the mayor uh to sign
40:49 ↗
this updated joint use agreement between
40:51 ↗
the city and the Isagua school district.
40:56 ↗
Oh, I do have the clicker. Next slide,
41:09 ↗
There we go. All right. Thank you.
41:12 ↗
Little levity. Um, this slide is really
41:16 ↗
to to I think uh trying to answer the
41:18 ↗
question, why why is a joint use
41:20 ↗
agreement between two independent public
41:22 ↗
agencies um of value? Um what is the
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intent really? Um four areas I want to
41:29 ↗
highlight. One is uh the mutual interest
41:31 ↗
that both of these agencies, a city and
41:33 ↗
a school district, have in supporting
41:35 ↗
community programs, both for education,
41:37 ↗
for recreation, um and athletics. Um a
41:41 ↗
joint use agreement also recognizes that
41:43 ↗
all city and school district assets are
41:45 ↗
publicly owned uh by the residents of
41:48 ↗
that community. Um, a joint use
41:49 ↗
agreement allows for a much more
41:51 ↗
cost-effective way to deliver services
41:53 ↗
and programs both uh the school district
41:56 ↗
as well as the city uh running um
41:59 ↗
running programs. Um and lastly uh the
42:03 ↗
properties are made available to the
42:05 ↗
other agency as a first priority um
42:07 ↗
after scheduling uh for its own programs
42:10 ↗
and services um have been met. So
42:18 ↗
and as I look at the background I think
42:20 ↗
we can see that as a testament here in
42:22 ↗
Isiqua. We've had a current joint use
42:24 ↗
agreement um and the current joint use
42:26 ↗
agreement has been in place uh since
42:28 ↗
2003. Um uh so we have a great history
42:32 ↗
in working with the school district. Um
42:34 ↗
we also uh recognized it was time uh to
42:37 ↗
review and and likely update uh this
42:39 ↗
joint use agreement. Uh so in April of
42:44 ↗
uh those of you council members who were
42:46 ↗
uh here at the time uh will recall we
42:48 ↗
had a joint meeting between the school
42:50 ↗
board and the Isqua city council that
42:51 ↗
April. Uh this was a topic uh that
42:54 ↗
myself and Martin Turney uh presented as
42:56 ↗
an opportunity to uh pursue a renewal.
43:00 ↗
Um we got some great um um feedback um a
43:03 ↗
great discussion uh by both council and
43:05 ↗
school board that really helped to set
43:08 ↗
uh the course um uh for that uh for that
43:11 ↗
work. Uh so we began that in earnest in
43:13 ↗
2024 and 2025. A lot of great staff work
43:17 ↗
um happened. Um a new framework to a new
43:20 ↗
draft was created. Um fast forward a bit
43:26 ↗
uh school boards, our school board,
43:28 ↗
school district staff uh joined me uh at
43:31 ↗
a parkboard meeting in January uh where
43:33 ↗
we presented u the the framework of that
43:36 ↗
draft. Um Parkboard unanimous
43:39 ↗
unanimously supported uh moving forward
43:41 ↗
with that. Um later uh this year uh in
43:46 ↗
April uh another joint meeting between
43:48 ↗
the school board and the city council
43:50 ↗
occurred. Um, at that meeting, um, I
43:53 ↗
unfortunately wasn't able to attend, but
43:55 ↗
I know school district staff provided an
43:56 ↗
update on where, uh, that agreement was
44:00 ↗
was at. Um, not on this timeline because
44:03 ↗
it happened so recently, forgive me,
44:05 ↗
but, uh, just last Thursday, um, on June
44:08 ↗
25th, um, I had the chance to present at
44:11 ↗
the school board meeting. Um uh my
44:14 ↗
presentation focused not only on the
44:16 ↗
park bond renewal but also the
44:18 ↗
importance and the relationship that
44:19 ↗
park bond renewal has uh with this joint
44:22 ↗
use agreement. Um very very positive
44:24 ↗
feedback from the school board on both
44:26 ↗
of those items. I'm going I'm going to
44:28 ↗
provide a little bit more um of an
44:30 ↗
update a couple slides from now under um
44:39 ↗
But first, uh, just to highlight, uh,
44:42 ↗
really some of the the the primary
44:44 ↗
additions, um, and changes, uh, to the
44:46 ↗
joint use agreement. Um, and I really
44:48 ↗
put these in in two pretty, uh,
44:51 ↗
prominent categories. Uh, the first
44:53 ↗
significant change has to do with
44:54 ↗
scheduling, um, and access. Um, what
44:57 ↗
we've done in this updated agreement is
44:59 ↗
further clarify uh, the process for
45:02 ↗
scheduling and and that coordination. uh
45:04 ↗
so much of this joint use agreement and
45:06 ↗
really the the implementation of this
45:09 ↗
joint use agreement is done very much at
45:11 ↗
a frontline staff level. So it was a
45:14 ↗
very important in this um update to
45:17 ↗
clarify the process and understand how
45:20 ↗
different facilities are scheduled uh
45:22 ↗
should require a different or
45:24 ↗
understanding of a different scheduling
45:26 ↗
process. So, uh, we broke down different
45:29 ↗
ways that, uh, that scheduling
45:30 ↗
partnering would happen with gymnasiums,
45:33 ↗
uh, with fields and and city parks, uh,
45:36 ↗
with the Julius Bone Pool, uh, with the
45:38 ↗
Israel High School Performing Arts
45:40 ↗
Center. Um, again, all important public
45:43 ↗
assets, but all have a a little
45:45 ↗
different scheduling mechanism. So, uh,
45:48 ↗
this update has really, um, I think I
45:51 ↗
think modernized our approach, um, and
45:53 ↗
laid out a a good framework, um, as
45:55 ↗
opposed to the 2003 plan. In that
45:58 ↗
regard, another key element in addition
46:00 ↗
to this joint use agreement is
46:02 ↗
establishing, um, a process for possible
46:05 ↗
joint capital projects and programs. Not
46:07 ↗
just talking about it, but laying out in
46:10 ↗
uh, this plan a methodology for what
46:12 ↗
that would look like. Um and that could
46:15 ↗
include joint capital projects uh such
46:17 ↗
as athletic fields um like community
46:19 ↗
sports fields at elementary schools uh
46:22 ↗
that might be uh in our future. um would
46:24 ↗
also create a mechanism for um joint
46:28 ↗
capital projects around uh additional
46:30 ↗
pool capacity um or any other um capital
46:33 ↗
uh projects or programs that might
46:35 ↗
become available where the the joint use
46:37 ↗
agreement doesn't try and define every
46:39 ↗
single one of those that might happen in
46:41 ↗
the future. But it creates a process
46:43 ↗
which in which addendum agreements would
46:46 ↗
be uh created for each of those capital
46:48 ↗
projects that would then spell out the
46:50 ↗
specifics of how is it funded, how is it
46:53 ↗
being built, how is it going to be
46:54 ↗
maintained, um what are the roles and
46:57 ↗
responsibilities of each agency within
46:59 ↗
that um that capital project or um or
47:02 ↗
program. So a a a great um tool and
47:06 ↗
mechanism that this joint use agreement
47:08 ↗
um could serve for many years to come.
47:13 ↗
So, some next steps. Um, and again,
47:16 ↗
forgive me. I I should have updated this
47:18 ↗
uh from from last Thursday. Um um before
47:21 ↗
I jump into these next steps, um should
47:24 ↗
um should you authorize mayor to to to
47:26 ↗
enter into this agreement? Um um we also
47:29 ↗
need the school board uh to to enter
47:32 ↗
into this uh agreement. So, like any
47:34 ↗
joint use agreement, we're coordinating
47:36 ↗
the adoption authorization of of each um
47:40 ↗
of each agency. Um the next school board
47:43 ↗
meeting is on August 13th. Uh the school
47:46 ↗
board is scheduled to adopt um and
47:48 ↗
authorize the this agreement that
47:50 ↗
evening. Um, at the the Thursday, June
47:53 ↗
25th meeting that I attended, uh,
47:56 ↗
following my presentation, uh, Wall-Ally
47:58 ↗
and I were provided an update uh by the
48:01 ↗
school district staff on, uh, the
48:03 ↗
discussions they've had with the school
48:04 ↗
board. Uh, they were very positive, very
48:07 ↗
happy to report that, uh, the school
48:09 ↗
board has no, uh, programmatic questions
48:12 ↗
or concerns about the the joint use
48:14 ↗
agreement. Uh, there were a couple of
48:17 ↗
um, more legal questions that they're
48:20 ↗
running down. they uh school board staff
48:22 ↗
running down with their legal team. Um
48:24 ↗
I've updated Rachel Turpin, our city
48:26 ↗
attorney um as to those discussions. Uh
48:29 ↗
we will work through those. Um a lot of
48:32 ↗
those legal questions had to do with
48:33 ↗
some language around indemnification
48:36 ↗
um as well as some language around uh
48:39 ↗
dispute resolution. But again more
48:41 ↗
technical um what we've we've learned is
48:44 ↗
there is um tremendous support from the
48:47 ↗
school board uh for all the programmatic
48:49 ↗
elements of uh the joint use agreement.
48:52 ↗
Uh so with that said, uh following um
48:55 ↗
that key next step of both agencies
48:57 ↗
authorizing the joint use agreement, um
49:00 ↗
this fall, uh we would um jump straight
49:03 ↗
into implementation and operationalizing
49:06 ↗
uh this agreement at a staff level uh
49:08 ↗
between both agencies. Um and then um
49:12 ↗
later this winter uh should there be a
49:14 ↗
potential park bond put on the ballot
49:16 ↗
and should voters um approve that uh we
49:19 ↗
would begin working this winter on
49:21 ↗
entering um into addendum agreements uh
49:24 ↗
for each of those community sports field
49:32 ↗
So options before you tonight um um as
49:37 ↗
administration recommends the first
49:38 ↗
option is to approve the motion and
49:40 ↗
authorize the mayor to enter into that
49:42 ↗
agreement. Um uh another option uh
49:45 ↗
should you not want to do that is refer
49:48 ↗
uh this agenda bill to service of safety
49:49 ↗
and parks committee for more discussion.
49:52 ↗
Um, another option you would have is,
49:54 ↗
um, if you don't support this is, um,
49:57 ↗
not updating the joint use agreement and
49:58 ↗
continuing with the 2003 joint use
50:01 ↗
agreement that we have in place right
50:06 ↗
But with that, our recommendation is
50:08 ↗
that you authorize the mayor to enter
50:09 ↗
into this uh, agreement. Um and again as
50:13 ↗
you see the language there uh provided
50:16 ↗
um that uh the parties um may make re
50:19 ↗
revisions that not substantially change
50:21 ↗
the terms um of that agreement um or
50:24 ↗
change any of the programmatic terms um
50:26 ↗
if approved by the city attorney. So
50:28 ↗
with that, thank you very much. I'm
50:33 ↗
>> uh yeah, I had a couple questions. Um so
50:35 ↗
for the scheduling updates that you did
50:38 ↗
um what were there were can you explain
50:40 ↗
a little bit like maybe what some of the
50:41 ↗
problems were with the current agreement
50:43 ↗
in terms of that um as well as in the
50:46 ↗
updated versions did we get any like
50:48 ↗
more access to things or anything that
50:52 ↗
>> Yeah, great great questions. Yeah, I
50:54 ↗
would say um operationally what we a a
50:57 ↗
couple things we recognized as
50:59 ↗
challenges in the in the prior
51:00 ↗
agreement. Um, one um it it didn't
51:05 ↗
differentiate between a scheduling
51:07 ↗
process for say the performing arts
51:10 ↗
center uh from scheduling um a gym. Um
51:14 ↗
it um um didn't have a a a a mechanism
51:19 ↗
in place on how to most efficiently
51:22 ↗
schedule the variety of of again public
51:25 ↗
assets that both we manage and the
51:27 ↗
school district manages. Um, another u
51:30 ↗
reality of that 2003 agreement that we
51:33 ↗
wanted to address um was financial um
51:36 ↗
and that the prior agreement had the
51:37 ↗
city paying for half of a full-time
51:40 ↗
staff person of the school district, a
51:42 ↗
facility scheduler. Um and so uh through
51:46 ↗
uh this work and through this update uh
51:48 ↗
we felt that was important uh given um
51:52 ↗
again I think the important roles that
51:53 ↗
we both play in managing our own
51:55 ↗
facilities that we should no longer pay
51:57 ↗
for half of a school district staff.
52:02 ↗
>> Fantastic. And then my other question
52:03 ↗
was will those will that scheduling
52:06 ↗
agreement apply to the potential new cap
52:09 ↗
fields that we might make or will a new
52:12 ↗
agreement need to make for those
52:15 ↗
>> So a new interlocal agreement wouldn't
52:17 ↗
need to be made. The mechanism for those
52:19 ↗
capital projects would be an addendum
52:21 ↗
agreement would be created. That
52:22 ↗
addendum would be an attachment to this
52:24 ↗
interlocal. That addendum will spell out
52:27 ↗
um how those fields will be maintained
52:29 ↗
and scheduled. what I shared with the
52:32 ↗
school board and what I I've shared uh
52:34 ↗
with with you all and the park board in
52:36 ↗
prior agreements and been very clear
52:37 ↗
with school district staff is it would
52:40 ↗
be our goal that through um again should
52:43 ↗
should a bond be approved should we be
52:47 ↗
entering into an addendum agreement with
52:49 ↗
um those elementary school fields the
52:52 ↗
city would be the funer of the project
52:55 ↗
we would be the maintainer and the city
52:57 ↗
would be the scheduler um of those
52:59 ↗
fields and So, um that addendum
53:02 ↗
mechanism allows those elementary school
53:04 ↗
fields um that the city would be
53:06 ↗
investing in to be managed and scheduled
53:08 ↗
differently um than uh some of the other
53:11 ↗
existing fields. I hope that helps.
53:18 ↗
>> thank you. Um some follow-up questions
53:20 ↗
on that addendum and the on the
53:22 ↗
scheduling piece in particular. Uh so
53:24 ↗
I'd emailed you on this before. You gave
53:25 ↗
a a great answer at the time. My
53:27 ↗
question was basically um we have as a
53:30 ↗
city different policies on how we allow
53:33 ↗
access to our our outdoor facilities in
53:35 ↗
general versus many of the school
53:36 ↗
facilities. A lot of the newer school
53:38 ↗
facilities, their turf facilities in
53:40 ↗
particular, oftentimes have access fees
53:42 ↗
associated with them. And my my hope was
53:44 ↗
that we would be able to control this as
53:46 ↗
a city and not have publicly funded
53:49 ↗
fields, require access fees.
53:52 ↗
scheduling for big events and uh sports
53:54 ↗
aside, individual being able to access
53:56 ↗
those fields at any time, I think is
53:58 ↗
something that most of us expect out of
53:59 ↗
our parks. Um has did that discussion
54:03 ↗
proceed any further? Do you I don't
54:05 ↗
think there's anything new in this
54:06 ↗
agreement as is, but you must have
54:08 ↗
discussed the addendums that you'll
54:10 ↗
follow up with this in more detail. And
54:12 ↗
do you have any more um detail that you
54:17 ↗
>> Yeah, I I believe so. If I'm following
54:19 ↗
your question, um, pertaining to
54:23 ↗
existing school district fields at the
54:25 ↗
middle school or high school and how
54:27 ↗
they manage them, this interlocal Oh,
54:30 ↗
>> oh, sorry. No, I I don't mean that. I
54:32 ↗
mean the the ones that this bond will
54:34 ↗
fund. Okay. If this bond is to fund new
54:36 ↗
things, will we be will will the city be
54:38 ↗
able to set its policies on public
54:40 ↗
access, not for existing fields that the
54:44 ↗
>> Thank you, Council Member Nichols. Yes.
54:46 ↗
Yes. the addendum agreement. This the
54:49 ↗
framework of this agreement as well as
54:50 ↗
the addendum agreement would give us the
54:52 ↗
ability to set scheduling um parameters
54:57 ↗
um very clearly and very differently uh
54:59 ↗
to allow public use um of those um
55:04 ↗
elementary school community sports
55:05 ↗
fields to function just as a
55:07 ↗
neighborhood park would um after after
55:10 ↗
school hours. Obviously during school
55:12 ↗
hours, um it would it would be serving
55:14 ↗
its primary purpose as a as a school
55:17 ↗
amenity. Uh but after school, evenings,
55:20 ↗
weekends, uh summer hours, uh those
55:23 ↗
community sports fields would be managed
55:25 ↗
and function just like a sports field
55:27 ↗
would in any one of our neighborhood or
55:29 ↗
community parks. Okay. Thank you. Yo,
55:36 ↗
>> thank you, director, for all of your
55:38 ↗
work on this uh agreement. Appreciate
55:42 ↗
it. Um, you brought up the um performing
55:46 ↗
arts center. I had a couple of questions
55:48 ↗
about that. Um, we have, um, supported
55:52 ↗
in the past through our ELTAC grants and
55:54 ↗
other funding the film festival and the
55:58 ↗
Nutcracker event. Um uh I have heard
56:01 ↗
some challenges with scheduling uh with
56:04 ↗
the school district in the past. Could
56:06 ↗
you comment on how this agreement will
56:09 ↗
help smooth that scheduling over should
56:12 ↗
>> Yeah, absolutely. Thank you for the
56:14 ↗
question. Um Amy Dukes, our arts
56:16 ↗
manager, still in the audience. Um Amy
56:18 ↗
played a key role in uh framing up what
56:22 ↗
that performing arts scheduling se
56:23 ↗
section looks like um and how uh we want
56:27 ↗
to administer it. Um yes, I expect it to
56:31 ↗
um address some of the challenges that
56:32 ↗
we saw from some prior years uh where um
56:37 ↗
it became very very hard for community
56:39 ↗
groups to access that site. So the
56:41 ↗
intent of this interlocal agreement is
56:43 ↗
um in many ways the arts manager um Amy
56:47 ↗
would uh serve as facilitator uh for um
56:51 ↗
any community groups that are interested
56:53 ↗
whether we're funding them through ELTAC
56:55 ↗
or through arts grants. Um uh but be
56:58 ↗
that um public that cityside conduit
57:01 ↗
that would work directly with um school
57:04 ↗
district administration, not just um the
57:07 ↗
arts director of the community um um the
57:11 ↗
performing arts center uh but work with
57:13 ↗
district staff um um setting a and I
57:17 ↗
don't have the the schedule dates
57:19 ↗
memorized but we were very specific in
57:22 ↗
amount of time and lead time that we
57:24 ↗
want uh to have schedules confirmed. Uh
57:28 ↗
we also recognize um and put in place um
57:32 ↗
operationally that um there are large
57:35 ↗
when there's large regional community
57:37 ↗
events requested, there will be a a
57:39 ↗
large uh lead time uh that we will want
57:42 ↗
and expect. And I would say even as
57:44 ↗
we've been negotiating this new new
57:46 ↗
agreement, um it's been encouraging to
57:48 ↗
see um um at the same time we've been
57:52 ↗
finalizing this uh the approach the
57:54 ↗
district's taken to the performing arts
57:55 ↗
center the last couple of months has
57:57 ↗
greatly improved and in seeing the film
57:59 ↗
festival there for the very first time,
58:01 ↗
seeing the Nutcracker performance uh
58:03 ↗
there in December, I think the school
58:05 ↗
district has also seen the value and the
58:07 ↗
benefits uh that an agreement like this
58:10 ↗
and cooperating uh in public use of that
58:13 ↗
will will be a big benefit. So,
58:16 ↗
>> okay. So, um if the school district
58:19 ↗
approves this in August and we approve
58:21 ↗
this this evening, um will I have your
58:24 ↗
assurances that we'll have enough lead
58:27 ↗
time to get those November and December
58:29 ↗
events uh smoothed out and uh scheduled?
58:33 ↗
>> Yes, I believe Amy's already working on
58:35 ↗
getting dates set for Nutcracker. Um and
58:39 ↗
those are are well underway. So, I think
58:42 ↗
the film festival may have been moved to
58:43 ↗
January, right? The film festival, I
58:45 ↗
think they're doing January now.
58:51 ↗
>> Okay. Thank you very much, Jeff. Uh, is
58:57 ↗
discussion or questions on the inter Oh,
59:02 ↗
>> a really specific question about the um
59:04 ↗
e house and it's okay if I can send it
59:06 ↗
in writing afterwards cuz I didn't give
59:07 ↗
you a heads up, but um the do the
59:09 ↗
renovations include any part of the
59:12 ↗
landscaping on the outside? I've heard
59:14 ↗
uh just one uh community member very
59:16 ↗
interested in I think there's some rose
59:17 ↗
bushes maybe around it that they're
59:20 ↗
interested in preserving. your one
59:21 ↗
agenda by your one agenda bill item.
59:27 ↗
>> I'll hold that to the I'll hold that
59:31 ↗
>> Uh okay. On the interlocal agreement
59:37 ↗
no further council discussion, is there
59:38 ↗
a motion? Council President Marks.
59:40 ↗
>> Mr. Mr. Mayor, I move to authorize the
59:42 ↗
mayor to enter into the updated
59:43 ↗
interlocal agreement for joint use in
59:45 ↗
development of facilities, programs,
59:47 ↗
maintenance, and operations between the
59:49 ↗
Isiqua school district and the city of
59:50 ↗
Isiqua in substantially the same form as
59:52 ↗
the attached agreement exhibit A,
59:54 ↗
provided the parties may make revisions
59:56 ↗
that do not substantially change the
59:58 ↗
terms of the attached agreement or
59:59 ↗
change the programmatic terms of the
1:00:05 ↗
>> Okay, there's been a motion and a
1:00:19 ↗
circumstances isn't coming through at
1:00:21 ↗
this point. Um, I understand the special
1:00:25 ↗
circumstances where the city might make
1:00:28 ↗
changes uh scheduling priorities because
1:00:31 ↗
that was really what was important um in
1:00:35 ↗
going forward with the idea of going to
1:00:38 ↗
the community and saying that yes, we
1:00:41 ↗
have an interlocal agreement that will
1:00:45 ↗
substantially change and make sure that
1:00:49 ↗
the funds that the community puts into
1:00:52 ↗
place means that these facilities um
1:00:55 ↗
will have much more public access than
1:00:58 ↗
the current um school facilities do. Um
1:01:04 ↗
so I I want to put that out there. I I
1:01:12 ↗
I don't think the community should wait
1:01:15 ↗
until after a park bond is potentially
1:01:20 ↗
to know what the details are on that. I
1:01:23 ↗
appreciate your assurance that everybody
1:01:25 ↗
says that the idea is we're going to
1:01:29 ↗
have priority for scheduling and that
1:01:32 ↗
the public will be able to engage this.
1:01:37 ↗
really matter. Um so I'm a little bit
1:01:39 ↗
disappointed in that. Um that being
1:01:42 ↗
said, I do appreciate all of the efforts
1:01:44 ↗
to modernize this. I did read over the
1:01:54 ↗
um facilities um that the uh school
1:02:00 ↗
appreciate that. I appreciate that we
1:02:01 ↗
are no longer paying half of the salary
1:02:04 ↗
of a scheduler for facilities that we
1:02:06 ↗
are not gaining access to. Um, and that
1:02:09 ↗
this is an improvement over the 2003
1:02:11 ↗
version. So, I will be supporting this
1:02:12 ↗
tonight. Um, but I do want to hear back
1:02:18 ↗
priority to get that addendum pulled
1:02:21 ↗
together so that the community knows
1:02:23 ↗
that their investments um, if they so
1:02:26 ↗
choose are have an agreement behind them
1:02:31 ↗
>> And then Jeeoff, correct me if I'm
1:02:33 ↗
wrong, but part of our challenge is the
1:02:35 ↗
addendum for Clark is different than the
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addendum for IBE. It's different than
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the addendum at Grand Ridge because
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they'll use their fields for different
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hours after school. Is that correct or
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>> Yeah, all all three of these will be
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separate addendum agreements. I I I I
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hear you. Um but I I know attending the
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school board meeting Thursday night um
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framework of those community sports
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fields and talking directly through our
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expectation and hope and and hearing the
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positive feedback, extremely positive
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feedback. Um, thank you. I I I hear you.
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It will be a priority. Um Um, and it's I
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stand with a a high degree of certainty
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that there is high mutual support for
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>> um, do you have an estimate on the
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timeline for getting those addendum
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no. Soon as soon as soon as possible.
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But would it be before the park bond
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>> It would be either somewhere right in
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that time frame or or shortly after.
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Again, I hard to hard to lay down a
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timeline when it's two agencies. Um I I
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>> Work will begin in earnest. Right.
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Well, I'm excited about the possibility
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of this agreement. Um, I feel like at
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understand that the city of Isiqua and
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separate governmental organizations that
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um only share the word Isiqua. And you
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know, other than that, they're they
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they're completely different and with
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different operating models. And uh but
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yet these are the two um entities of
1:04:37 ↗
community have the most interaction
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with, right? Like you're not out in a
1:04:40 ↗
sailboat dodging a missile submarine or
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whatever. So, you know, you don't you
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don't deal with the federal government
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important that our two uh governmental
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organizations interact in ways that
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benefit the community, the ways in ways
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community, provide services best for the
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community, and it is not always thus.
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Um, so this is uh this is an important
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step forward and I hope that we will
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continue to find creative opportunities
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um to leverage both our best assets and
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the school district's best assets going
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>> Has the federal government trying to
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>> I I see I I see out of the way of the
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ballistic missile subs when I am uh
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>> Council member Nichols. Um, on that
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note, um, I echo the, uh, the excitement
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that Council President Martz um, offered
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on this. I I would really like to see
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our our schools and our municipality,
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uh, working together however we possibly
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can. Uh, we have the same people in many
1:05:51 ↗
duplication and find ways to synergize
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and make everything work better, this is
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all great. So, I really, really applaud
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this effort. Um, I I will take I will
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use a slightly different word um than
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Council Member Walsh did as far as being
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disappointed about the addendum. I'm I'm
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not disappointed per se. I think I'm
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express also that this is a key aspect
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of this agreement to go well for me. Um,
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really have to just trust that you folks
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will be able to negotiate this and get
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it done. Um, and I don't want to get in
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the way of that and say that even though
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I'm nervous about this, I want to have
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that done first because I think we will
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just not get it at all. And I think that
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would be a great shame. So, please, um,
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you know, understand our anxiousness,
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but also appreciate our, you know, our
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our trust in you to to get this get this
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signed in a way that will be maximally
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appreciate negotiations are always hard,
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uh, no matter what they are. Um, and I
1:06:56 ↗
government agencies can't be any easier
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than any other type of negotiation I'm
1:07:00 ↗
familiar with. So, uh, I appreciate the
1:07:02 ↗
difficulty and, um, please also just if
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you can keep us updated along the way
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and let us know if there's anything that
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>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Uh I'm a little
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nostalgic because I was on council in
1:07:21 ↗
optimism that we were going to have the
1:07:24 ↗
opportunity to share facilities and um
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scheduler in the schools that could help
1:07:32 ↗
coordinate uh those activities. Uh it's
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not often that in my time on council
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I've had an opportunity to take a piece
1:07:40 ↗
of legislation and make it better uh 23
1:07:44 ↗
years later. So I'm quite pleased to be
1:07:46 ↗
able to do that. I'm quite optimistic
1:07:48 ↗
that we will be able to have better
1:07:50 ↗
coordination with our arts groups and
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our groups that want to come in and use
1:07:54 ↗
the uh performing arts center. It's a
1:07:56 ↗
wonderful facility. 600 seat capacity
1:08:00 ↗
and um modern sound now, modern sound
1:08:04 ↗
board. Uh the acoustics are great in
1:08:06 ↗
there now and we need to use it as a
1:08:08 ↗
community asset for all the groups that
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want to come in and show uh the great
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depth and um uh richness of our cultural
1:08:20 ↗
heritage and our cultural groups here in
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Esqua. So, I'm quite excited to support
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For those in the audience doing math,
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council in 2003. He was 12 years old at
1:08:33 ↗
that point in time. The youngest council
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member in America. Uh okay. No further
1:08:38 ↗
discussion. The motion for the council
1:08:40 ↗
is to authorize the mayor to enter into
1:08:41 ↗
the updated interlocal agreement for
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joint use development of facilities,
1:08:44 ↗
programs, maintenance, and operations
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between the Isqua school district and
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the city of Isqua in substantially the
1:08:49 ↗
same form as the attached agreement
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exhibit A. provided the parties may make
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revisions that do not substantially
1:08:54 ↗
agreement or change programmatic terms
1:08:56 ↗
of the agreement if approved by our city
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attorney Rachel who's very wise. Uh all
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>> All those opposed? Nay. And that passes
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Okay, we're getting into Council Member
1:09:13 ↗
Boyd's next question. Agenda Bill 9193
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election ballot item. Jeff, it's still
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>> Thank you, mayor. Hello again. Still
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>> At least now you know how to work the
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>> What's that? And I hear Jeff knows how
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>> Yes. An improved Jeff. Yes. All right.
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Thank you. Uh purpose and recommendation
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uh for this item is to present and to
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seek council authorization uh for a park
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bond renewal to go to voters on the
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council adopt uh the attached ballot
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ordinance uh placing a park bond renewal
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voters um on the November 3rd ballot.
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My intent of the presentation tonight,
1:10:04 ↗
we've talked a lot. I want to thank you
1:10:06 ↗
council for a lot of the conversations
1:10:08 ↗
that we've had over the over the last
1:10:10 ↗
couple of months. um they've really
1:10:12 ↗
helped to uh to shape. I don't intend to
1:10:17 ↗
discussed, but trying to provide some
1:10:21 ↗
context, and really um get into your uh
1:10:24 ↗
discussion. Um but as to background, um
1:10:28 ↗
voter approved Bark B park bonds um have
1:10:31 ↗
been a primary uh funding tool uh used
1:10:34 ↗
for capital projects here in Isiqua uh
1:10:36 ↗
within our parks and trail system. Um,
1:10:39 ↗
ISCU has used this tool significantly.
1:10:41 ↗
Um, and most recently, um, in 2006, uh,
1:10:45 ↗
when voters approved a $6.25 million,
1:10:48 ↗
uh, bond measure. Um, and then again in
1:10:50 ↗
2013, uh, voters approved a $10 million,
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portion of these park bonds are retiring
1:11:00 ↗
um, at the end of this year. Um, with
1:11:03 ↗
Mayor Mullet's leadership, um, we he
1:11:07 ↗
made it a priority, uh, to explore, uh,
1:11:10 ↗
renewing uh, these expiring, retiring,
1:11:13 ↗
uh, park bonds, um, uh, to see if we
1:11:16 ↗
want to make, um, additional priority
1:11:20 ↗
trails uh, that would not uh, currently
1:11:27 ↗
Thank you, Mayor Mullet, for having us
1:11:32 ↗
in that exploration. Uh we began a lot
1:11:35 ↗
of work um and discussion not only with
1:11:55 ↗
uh a lot of discussions with um your
1:11:57 ↗
park board, with our park board. Um over
1:12:01 ↗
uh um four separate um conversations we
1:12:05 ↗
had with the park board, we really began
1:12:07 ↗
to um look foundationally at the adopted
1:12:11 ↗
uh 2024 park system plan. Um as I've
1:12:14 ↗
shared with you before, um a lot of
1:12:17 ↗
public engagement went into that park
1:12:18 ↗
plan update. Um specifically around um
1:12:22 ↗
reinvesting into the park system. Um,
1:12:25 ↗
for those familiar with that 2024 park
1:12:27 ↗
plan, one of the foundational elements
1:12:29 ↗
of that is to identify not only priority
1:12:36 ↗
priorities. Um, it was those near-term
1:12:40 ↗
foundation uh for projects that we might
1:12:42 ↗
consider for this park bond renewal. Um,
1:12:45 ↗
so again, um, these projects uh were did
1:12:49 ↗
not come out of thin air. They really
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engagement. um and priority projects and
1:12:56 ↗
investments uh that the community's
1:13:00 ↗
Um uh along with those discussions uh
1:13:03 ↗
with the park board um on the May 18th
1:13:05 ↗
park board meeting uh they the park
1:13:10 ↗
unanimously seeking and and recommending
1:13:12 ↗
for you council uh to move ahead and
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place this uh park bond renewal on uh
1:13:19 ↗
the November ballot. Um um you'll see in
1:13:22 ↗
my staff report um um the specifics of
1:13:27 ↗
second point to that recommendation of
1:13:29 ↗
not only proceeding with the the park
1:13:32 ↗
bond at the renewal rate which is 8
1:13:34 ↗
cents per 10,000 uh which would not
1:13:36 ↗
represent a um funding increase uh for
1:13:41 ↗
um property owners. They also asked that
1:13:44 ↗
uh the city continue to to reactivate uh
1:13:47 ↗
the pool advisory committee uh so that
1:13:50 ↗
uh the idea the concept the priority of
1:13:54 ↗
um expansion of the Julius bone pool
1:13:56 ↗
though not on this ballot measure remain
1:13:58 ↗
um a conversation with the community as
1:14:00 ↗
we try and explore ways uh to fund that
1:14:06 ↗
Uh following the city council retreat,
1:14:09 ↗
the discussion we had on May 9th, uh you
1:14:11 ↗
asked that we um have a public meeting.
1:14:13 ↗
Uh we had a public meeting scheduled and
1:14:15 ↗
followed through with that um June 2nd
1:14:21 ↗
overwhelmingly positive feedback um as
1:14:23 ↗
to uh the purpose of this bond renewal
1:14:26 ↗
and also the the bundle of of projects
1:14:34 ↗
discussion and conversation with the
1:14:37 ↗
feedback with you the city council. Um
1:14:41 ↗
uh on April 6th we had a committee the
1:14:43 ↗
whole conversation. Um, a lot of great
1:14:46 ↗
feedback, a lot of questions you asked
1:14:48 ↗
as as that was your f first real look at
1:14:54 ↗
honest uh feedback from all of you. Uh,
1:14:56 ↗
that led to a rather robust conversation
1:14:58 ↗
at services, safety, and parks. um on
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May 5th as we went through all of those
1:15:03 ↗
questions and items that u related to
1:15:06 ↗
both financial questions also um sort of
1:15:13 ↗
themselves um as well as um size and uh
1:15:17 ↗
um uh size of the potential uh levy
1:15:22 ↗
from that meeting on May 5th. uh that
1:15:25 ↗
later that week on May 9th, we came back
1:15:29 ↗
another really good discussion on uh
1:15:32 ↗
this uh potential opportunity for the
1:15:34 ↗
bond renewal on May 9th. Um at that
1:15:37 ↗
meeting u began to get um again some um
1:15:41 ↗
good feedback and a sense of um coming
1:15:44 ↗
together from um all of you. Um here we
1:15:53 ↗
opportunity I had to present to school
1:15:57 ↗
specifically on uh the bond um and um
1:16:01 ↗
more specifically the community sports
1:16:03 ↗
field projects uh that are proposed. Um
1:16:11 ↗
support from the the school board um on
1:16:15 ↗
um these projects being included and u
1:16:19 ↗
commitment of um an addendum agreement.
1:16:28 ↗
Um the the proposed park bond renewal
1:16:34 ↗
ordinance um include 10 projects. Um
1:16:37 ↗
along with those three uh community
1:16:39 ↗
sports fields at the three elementary
1:16:41 ↗
schools that that uh reside within the
1:16:44 ↗
city of Isiqua. Uh we're proposing two
1:16:47 ↗
the creation of two new trail corridors,
1:16:49 ↗
one on Cougar Mountain and one on Squawk
1:16:52 ↗
Mountain. Uh these projects take uh
1:16:54 ↗
immediate advantage of the acquisitions
1:16:56 ↗
we've been so successful in in the last
1:17:01 ↗
acquisition on Cougar Mountain creating
1:17:03 ↗
a trail corridor uh that would lead
1:17:06 ↗
right up into uh the regional uh Cougar
1:17:09 ↗
Mountain Trail Network that King County
1:17:10 ↗
Parks manages just outside of the city.
1:17:15 ↗
Mountain, two acquisitions that we did
1:17:17 ↗
over the last couple years have created
1:17:18 ↗
a 35 acre corridor uh that would for the
1:17:22 ↗
first time create a trail network from
1:17:23 ↗
the valley floor up into Squawk Mountain
1:17:26 ↗
um state park and the trail network
1:17:28 ↗
there. um trail head improvements um at
1:17:31 ↗
our Senator Bill Ramos Memorial Trail
1:17:33 ↗
Head on East Sunset Way. Uh that's um so
1:17:38 ↗
Mountain uh would be a a project. Um um
1:17:42 ↗
an e house restoration at Confluence
1:17:44 ↗
Park as I point to council member Boyd
1:17:45 ↗
and look forward to that question. Um is
1:17:47 ↗
also on this. Um Confluence Park is such
1:17:50 ↗
a key community park. Uh this would
1:17:52 ↗
provide um a really really important um
1:17:56 ↗
um investment into that northeast corner
1:17:58 ↗
of the park that that really needs some
1:18:00 ↗
definition. Uh two projects at Tibets
1:18:02 ↗
Valley Park are proposed. One is uh
1:18:05 ↗
creating an expanded and all-inclusive
1:18:07 ↗
playground at Tibets Valley Park. Um as
1:18:10 ↗
well at Tibets Valley Park. Um creating
1:18:12 ↗
our second um neighborhoodsized um off
1:18:15 ↗
leash dog area or dog park. Um and then
1:18:18 ↗
last but certainly not least to our to
1:18:20 ↗
our our pickle ball lobby um and pickle
1:18:27 ↗
pickleball port courts at um Central
1:18:30 ↗
Park um um creating eight new pickle
1:18:36 ↗
from a um funding perspective. Um uh
1:18:42 ↗
you'll see in the ordinance uh these
1:18:43 ↗
projects would be completed uh with bond
1:18:46 ↗
funding that would be a maximum of $18
1:18:48 ↗
million. That $18 million would then be
1:18:51 ↗
leveraged with grant revenues as well as
1:18:54 ↗
other revenues um such as park impact
1:18:56 ↗
fees um totaling uh about $25 million um
1:19:01 ↗
that these all of these projects uh
1:19:03 ↗
represent. Um what that would mean to um
1:19:07 ↗
voters and to property owners would be
1:19:10 ↗
um an 8 cents per 10,000 rate. Uh that
1:19:13 ↗
is the rate that's retiring. Um um the
1:19:16 ↗
commitment would be staying at that or
1:19:18 ↗
actually going a little bit below that.
1:19:20 ↗
um as we seek to replace those retiring
1:19:28 ↗
represent is really again a goal that
1:19:30 ↗
you said um overwhelmingly that we had
1:19:33 ↗
from the get-go is um making sure these
1:19:37 ↗
diversity uh within the community which
1:19:46 ↗
Should you adopt this ordinance tonight?
1:19:48 ↗
Um some immediate next steps that we
1:19:51 ↗
would need to take um is we would um
1:19:53 ↗
immediately be seeking applications um
1:19:55 ↗
and selection. Uh the mayor would select
1:19:58 ↗
a recommend a pro and con committee um
1:20:02 ↗
um that would come back to you for city
1:20:05 ↗
council confirmation um at the July 20th
1:20:10 ↗
because of the timeline we need to by
1:20:12 ↗
August 4th um have uh those names um
1:20:16 ↗
provided to King County um elections. Um
1:20:20 ↗
equally next steps important next steps
1:20:22 ↗
there are some other materials that will
1:20:24 ↗
be due there in early August uh to meet
1:20:30 ↗
So though this um request um um feels
1:20:35 ↗
maybe like an end, it really represents
1:20:37 ↗
a beginning um of a lot of work ahead um
1:20:48 ↗
questions, the feedback that we've had
1:20:50 ↗
over the past couple of months. Um um uh
1:20:54 ↗
it's taken a lot of work to get here and
1:20:56 ↗
um again available for um any questions.
1:21:00 ↗
We recommend the adoption of this ballot
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>> I would say for folks before going on
1:21:06 ↗
questions like the language here is what
1:21:07 ↗
you would see on the actual ballot.
1:21:12 ↗
explanatory statement that is then there
1:21:16 ↗
that's like has to be approved as being
1:21:21 ↗
information of what's happening. And
1:21:23 ↗
statements that would also be in the
1:21:27 ↗
actual ballot as you're circling your
1:21:29 ↗
bubble would be the language you see in
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>> Thank you. I don't know if we have a
1:21:38 ↗
process for like I have to buy everyone
1:21:40 ↗
donuts if I jump the gun on an agenda
1:21:41 ↗
item or something, but apologies. Thank
1:21:44 ↗
you for your patience with me. Um can
1:21:49 ↗
um explicitly says that and uh is does
1:21:55 ↗
landscaping around it or I think there's
1:21:59 ↗
>> um yes it does. I'd be curious what what
1:22:02 ↗
the specific question is how far the
1:22:03 ↗
landscaping is but yes absolutely one of
1:22:05 ↗
the things we want to do and one of the
1:22:08 ↗
beginning is incorporate it better into
1:22:10 ↗
the park. Uh so not only landscaping on
1:22:12 ↗
the front but also in particular how the
1:22:15 ↗
back side of the e house relates to the
1:22:18 ↗
playground and the rest of the park. U
1:22:23 ↗
plaza-like improvements that would again
1:22:25 ↗
create a a cleaner um more accessible
1:22:29 ↗
transition from uh the house into the
1:22:36 ↗
Um and just for a clarification for you
1:22:38 ↗
know community members and stuff like
1:22:39 ↗
that um you know this the bond get let's
1:22:41 ↗
say the bond is approved let's say the
1:22:42 ↗
voters then approve it then each project
1:22:46 ↗
engagement as it actually was being teed
1:22:48 ↗
up and being act you know and shovel
1:22:51 ↗
ready and things like that. So there
1:22:52 ↗
would be more community input into each
1:22:54 ↗
of these projects as we actually got to
1:22:58 ↗
>> Yes. Thank you council member Dere.
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You're absolutely right. Uh there would
1:23:00 ↗
be a degree of community engagement um
1:23:02 ↗
as each of these projects were being
1:23:10 ↗
>> Okay. Seeing no other questions for
1:23:15 ↗
Is there um Oh, council member. Is there
1:23:19 ↗
a motion? Council member Dair. Okay.
1:23:21 ↗
Here we go. A lot of language here. All
1:23:23 ↗
right. Uh, I move to adopt ordinance
1:23:25 ↗
number 3142 providing for the submission
1:23:28 ↗
to the voters of the city at a special
1:23:30 ↗
election to be held within the city on
1:23:31 ↗
November 3rd, 2026 in conjunction with
1:23:34 ↗
the state general election to be held on
1:23:38 ↗
general obligation bonds for the purpose
1:23:44 ↗
equipping various parks and open space
1:23:47 ↗
improvements in the principal amount of
1:23:48 ↗
no more than $18 million provided by
1:23:51 ↗
annual property tax levies to be paid in
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excess of regular property tax levies
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and to levy those excess property taxes.
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>> Okay, it's been moved by former park
1:24:02 ↗
board member Adair, now council member
1:24:04 ↗
Adair, and seconded by council member
1:24:06 ↗
Boyd. Is there any further discussion?
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>> Great. Well, um I just want to say how
1:24:15 ↗
excited I am for this park bond. Um I
1:24:18 ↗
moved to Isiqua because of the parks and
1:24:21 ↗
access to trails that we have. So, for
1:24:23 ↗
me personally, it's very very exciting
1:24:24 ↗
to see that we are getting new trails
1:24:26 ↗
and trail head renovations as part of
1:24:31 ↗
and also I think what's really great
1:24:33 ↗
something for everyone. Whether you're a
1:24:35 ↗
pickle ball player, a dog owner, someone
1:24:38 ↗
playground, someone with kids in the
1:24:40 ↗
schools. Speaking of which, I think the
1:24:42 ↗
turf field at IBE and Clark, that's the
1:24:46 ↗
most support we've ever gotten as a city
1:24:49 ↗
council for anything we've ever done, at
1:24:52 ↗
hasn't been that long. Um, but I mean, I
1:24:54 ↗
think I think the total count of emails
1:24:56 ↗
we got in support of that was like 130,
1:24:57 ↗
which is a lot. So, you know, people in
1:25:01 ↗
Isiqua really love our parks and really
1:25:02 ↗
want to invest in um making them even
1:25:05 ↗
better. And so, I'm really excited to
1:25:06 ↗
support this. Um, there's a couple other
1:25:10 ↗
things that I just want to flag. So, I
1:25:11 ↗
think, you know, as we're thinking about
1:25:16 ↗
pothole city right now. So, totally in
1:25:18 ↗
support of making it a lot nicer. Um,
1:25:21 ↗
you know, as we're also thinking about
1:25:22 ↗
how we can increase, you know, bike
1:25:24 ↗
connectivity through our city. I think
1:25:26 ↗
one of the big missing gaps we have is
1:25:27 ↗
from, you know, the Isqua Highlands down
1:25:29 ↗
into town. Right now, it's like you get
1:25:31 ↗
off the trail and then you're like on
1:25:33 ↗
the sidewalk next to the Ramos trail
1:25:34 ↗
head. then that sidewalk, you know, if
1:25:37 ↗
you keep going, there's like utility
1:25:38 ↗
poles in the middle of the sidewalk. So,
1:25:40 ↗
it's not great. But if we can, you know,
1:25:42 ↗
use this trail head renovation to think
1:25:44 ↗
about, you know, potentially can we
1:25:45 ↗
actually have the trail head as a way
1:25:47 ↗
for bikes to move through and then, you
1:25:51 ↗
streets that could then have a really
1:25:54 ↗
probably the people living there would
1:25:55 ↗
be in favor of because they don't like
1:25:57 ↗
having cars speeding by. You know, just
1:25:58 ↗
thinking about how we can leverage these
1:26:02 ↗
things in our city. Um, and you know the
1:26:04 ↗
list of projects that we have on here,
1:26:07 ↗
it's all the projects that are going to
1:26:08 ↗
be funded by the park fund, but it's
1:26:09 ↗
also not comprehensive of all the park
1:26:12 ↗
projects that are in the works. There's
1:26:13 ↗
other park projects that are being in,
1:26:15 ↗
you know, funded by our regular, you
1:26:17 ↗
know, park funds and capital dollars.
1:26:20 ↗
And in particular, I know council member
1:26:21 ↗
Boyd's a big fan of having um a new park
1:26:24 ↗
in North Isiqua, which currently, you
1:26:25 ↗
know, in our park strategic plan is
1:26:27 ↗
identified as a parks desert. So, I know
1:26:29 ↗
there's um you know projects in the
1:26:30 ↗
works, but they're not quite ready for
1:26:32 ↗
the park bond uh you know this level of
1:26:35 ↗
funding quite yet, but they're in the
1:26:36 ↗
works and you know hopefully maybe some
1:26:38 ↗
developers will pay to do that and won't
1:26:41 ↗
even need a taxpayer fund. So, all in
1:26:43 ↗
all, very very excited about this park
1:26:44 ↗
bond and all the different investments
1:26:46 ↗
it's going to make in uh Isqua and I'm
1:26:49 ↗
excited to be pay you know a little bit
1:26:51 ↗
more in property taxes every year to
1:26:53 ↗
support that. So, thank you Council
1:27:08 ↗
collecting my thoughts. You know, I
1:27:09 ↗
don't have much to add really in that
1:27:10 ↗
obviously, like, you know, as parks
1:27:12 ↗
board member, I've been very excited
1:27:14 ↗
about this. I'm really excited to be
1:27:17 ↗
projects up and running, provided the
1:27:19 ↗
voters agree to it, obviously. Um, and
1:27:22 ↗
just wanted to once again, you know,
1:27:24 ↗
commend the parks department, Jeff, and
1:27:25 ↗
everyone in there for all the work that
1:27:28 ↗
continued work you do on parks, um, and
1:27:30 ↗
developing these plans and will continue
1:27:32 ↗
to do to actually get them made. Um, I
1:27:36 ↗
have, you know, I was, I try to stay
1:27:38 ↗
really involved with this. You know, I
1:27:39 ↗
went to the parks open house that was on
1:27:41 ↗
this and then when we had our time at um
1:27:44 ↗
the uh farmers market, a lot of people
1:27:47 ↗
have talked to me about it and I've seen
1:27:48 ↗
a lot of positive uh response to this
1:27:51 ↗
and it just goes to show how important
1:27:55 ↗
identity and I just love that we have
1:27:57 ↗
found a way to, you know, stick with
1:28:01 ↗
taxes, but still give people more. Um,
1:28:04 ↗
and I really look forward to this and
1:28:06 ↗
hope it is the vote is successful and
1:28:07 ↗
that we get to see all of these. So
1:28:09 ↗
again, thank you for all your hard work
1:28:12 ↗
>> Council member Dar's kids have not only
1:28:14 ↗
been to Sound Transit Board meetings,
1:28:15 ↗
but also park board openhouse meetings.
1:28:17 ↗
They are getting full exposure to civic
1:28:20 ↗
government. Uh, Council Member Walsh,
1:28:23 ↗
>> thank you. Um, I'm probably in the
1:28:26 ↗
minority tonight, but I'm going to be
1:28:28 ↗
voting no on this. Um, and it's not
1:28:30 ↗
because I believe these projects are bad
1:28:33 ↗
options. I think these are fantastic
1:28:38 ↗
vetted through our park planning and all
1:28:41 ↗
of these things. Um, but ultimately
1:28:44 ↗
because I have to evaluate this like the
1:28:51 ↗
services, but as a property tax when
1:28:55 ↗
money is tight. And further, that's the
1:28:58 ↗
way that I look at our own budget. Um,
1:29:01 ↗
evaluating where we are most in need.
1:29:04 ↗
And I think we should only go to the
1:29:06 ↗
voters for financial support of those
1:29:09 ↗
types of things, which in my mind is
1:29:12 ↗
things like operations and for services
1:29:15 ↗
that we provide um on a very very tight
1:29:19 ↗
budget. Um, things like public safety,
1:29:21 ↗
fire, human services. And so while I
1:29:28 ↗
capital projects and would love to have
1:29:30 ↗
the money to do so, um I think we have
1:29:38 ↗
evaluating things, I recognize that many
1:29:40 ↗
of my fellow council members have not
1:29:42 ↗
gone through a budget cycle and have not
1:29:46 ↗
situations of operations can get. Um,
1:29:50 ↗
and so if we are going to go to the
1:29:52 ↗
voters, I I think those are the areas
1:29:57 ↗
funding in. So I will be voting no, but
1:30:00 ↗
I appreciate if this goes through the
1:30:02 ↗
ability to create those projects for the
1:30:09 ↗
>> thank you. Um, so once again, uh, I
1:30:12 ↗
think this is a fantastic plan that's
1:30:14 ↗
been put together, uh, remarkably well,
1:30:17 ↗
uh, for the amount of time that you had
1:30:20 ↗
appreciate that. Um, you know, it's this
1:30:23 ↗
cannot have been easy. So thank you for
1:30:25 ↗
getting these these set these options
1:30:30 ↗
understand and and start uh talking to
1:30:32 ↗
the public about. Um, I will be a yes on
1:30:34 ↗
this. I think it's a um a very good
1:30:37 ↗
opportunity for our community to enhance
1:30:39 ↗
some of the things that we all love the
1:30:41 ↗
best about our community. Uh, my family
1:30:44 ↗
moved to Isqua for a bunch of reasons,
1:30:45 ↗
but two of the top ones were both our
1:30:47 ↗
schools and our parks. um this is a nice
1:30:49 ↗
way to combine supporting both of those
1:30:51 ↗
into the same effort um in with a a good
1:30:53 ↗
part of that funding and it has lots of
1:30:55 ↗
other great um uh option great additions
1:30:59 ↗
in there as well. Um I am I'm personally
1:31:02 ↗
very comfortable going to the voters and
1:31:04 ↗
asking for the funding to do this. Um I
1:31:10 ↗
the the residents of Isiqua love our
1:31:13 ↗
parks. They love our the the amenities
1:31:14 ↗
that they provide and that they will be
1:31:16 ↗
comfortable with this as a as funding
1:31:20 ↗
that they will help support. I also
1:31:21 ↗
recognize that we we do will have many
1:31:23 ↗
difficult budget conversations in the
1:31:25 ↗
future and I I appreciate Council Member
1:31:27 ↗
Walsh's perspective there. Um I think
1:31:33 ↗
choices at that time and I'm I'm also
1:31:34 ↗
comfortable asking the voters to pay for
1:31:40 ↗
asking the voters to um to fund the
1:31:42 ↗
services that they that they need. And I
1:31:44 ↗
think we're going to have to do that.
1:31:45 ↗
And I'm I'm well aware of that that
1:31:46 ↗
those will be continuing conversations
1:31:48 ↗
that we will have. Um so once again in
1:31:51 ↗
summary, I am very much in support of
1:31:52 ↗
this. Um, I am I I think that this is
1:31:55 ↗
something that the voters of Isqua will
1:31:56 ↗
approve and that they will support and
1:31:58 ↗
that these will be projects that we will
1:32:00 ↗
all love and that um they will also give
1:32:02 ↗
us an opportunity to um flex our muscles
1:32:06 ↗
as a a government that can build some
1:32:08 ↗
build cool things quickly um and show
1:32:12 ↗
approve funds like this we will get
1:32:14 ↗
things done on time within budget um and
1:32:16 ↗
that they can trust us to continue to
1:32:21 ↗
Thank you, Council President Marts.
1:32:24 ↗
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I want to commend
1:32:25 ↗
the staff. Um this process um began
1:32:28 ↗
months ago, a number of months ago and
1:32:38 ↗
strategic plan, uh further feedback from
1:32:42 ↗
this body, uh and crafted it all into
1:32:46 ↗
something that uh really makes the most
1:32:50 ↗
uh if approved by the voters will make
1:32:54 ↗
replacement bond. Um so for members of
1:32:56 ↗
the public what that means is that um
1:32:59 ↗
the effort is to have the the monies
1:33:02 ↗
basically replace the bonds that are
1:33:05 ↗
expiring. Um I think that's important.
1:33:09 ↗
This doesn't represent a substantial new
1:33:12 ↗
uh impact on the voters. Really what it
1:33:15 ↗
is is uh showing this parks department
1:33:18 ↗
is really really good at uh maintaining
1:33:22 ↗
good parks facilities. The public tells
1:33:24 ↗
us time and time again that not only are
1:33:27 ↗
parks important, but the city does a
1:33:29 ↗
good job with parks. I wish we could say
1:33:32 ↗
that all the issues that are important
1:33:33 ↗
to the public that we do as well on
1:33:36 ↗
those issues as we do on parks issues.
1:33:38 ↗
Our our life would be a lot easier if
1:33:40 ↗
that were the case, but it's not. Um,
1:33:42 ↗
but they but we really do a good job
1:33:43 ↗
with these with these bond monies that
1:33:46 ↗
come in historically, and I believe
1:33:48 ↗
we'll continue to do that if the public
1:33:50 ↗
supports this bond. So, I'm very much in
1:33:52 ↗
support of this this evening. Thank you,
1:33:54 ↗
>> Council Member Joe. Thank you. I was in
1:33:59 ↗
Confluence Park this weekend taking a
1:34:05 ↗
Margaret's Meadow and my son uh took a
1:34:09 ↗
hike on Margaret's Way on Sunday. And
1:34:14 ↗
for those of you that don't know who
1:34:15 ↗
Margaret was, it was Margaret Mloud and
1:34:18 ↗
she was a person that did a tremendous
1:34:20 ↗
job getting grants for our parks. Uh
1:34:23 ↗
many of the hills that we have today
1:34:24 ↗
were preserved because of Margaret and
1:34:27 ↗
the parks and open space that we have uh
1:34:29 ↗
can be attributed to all the hard work
1:34:31 ↗
that she did. Um I was on council in
1:34:34 ↗
2006 when we first approved the bond
1:34:36 ↗
that we're thinking about renewing now.
1:34:39 ↗
And uh the money that we put away over
1:34:46 ↗
preserve our forested hillsides that
1:34:48 ↗
helped preserve open space for us. Um,
1:34:51 ↗
the parks department with Margaret's
1:34:54 ↗
legacy does a fantastic job leveraging
1:34:57 ↗
the dollars that we put out through
1:35:00 ↗
these bond issuances and leveraging them
1:35:06 ↗
make those dollars punch far above their
1:35:08 ↗
weight and get Isiqua preservation of
1:35:12 ↗
land facilities uh with uh using that
1:35:17 ↗
money to leverage our our ability to to
1:35:19 ↗
to get things done with the Sierra Club
1:35:25 ↗
organizations, whatever it might be.
1:35:27 ↗
When we come to the table with money,
1:35:28 ↗
because we put the money away through
1:35:36 ↗
be more competitive on that on that
1:35:39 ↗
everyone else for other funding and
1:35:42 ↗
grants. Um, this bond from my point of
1:35:49 ↗
investment by the citizens of Isqua to
1:35:50 ↗
say we believe in our parks. We're going
1:35:52 ↗
to put this bond money aside and we're
1:35:54 ↗
going to rely on our parks department
1:35:57 ↗
through the long history of leveraging
1:36:02 ↗
farther than they should and to allow it
1:36:04 ↗
squad to punch far above their weight to
1:36:06 ↗
get open space and park amenities for
1:36:09 ↗
their citizens. So, I'm fully in support
1:36:11 ↗
of this and I appreciate all the hard
1:36:12 ↗
work that's been done and uh I think
1:36:14 ↗
Margaret would be happy uh as she's
1:36:20 ↗
>> I was not aware we'd have to get halfway
1:36:21 ↗
through our agenda before we hit an item
1:36:23 ↗
that Council Member Joe had not been
1:36:28 ↗
>> um I'm very excited to uh be in favor of
1:36:34 ↗
necessarily the case. When I very first
1:36:36 ↗
was appointed, I was concerned at not
1:36:38 ↗
seeing anything uh in North Isiqua when
1:36:41 ↗
it was identified, you know, throughout
1:36:45 ↗
Watling, and just, you know, given the
1:36:47 ↗
amount of time, right, I'm assured that
1:36:50 ↗
uh as Council Member Jen had said, uh
1:36:51 ↗
earlier that, you know, we can do things
1:36:54 ↗
in concurrence with this um and uh the
1:36:57 ↗
amount of projects that are identified
1:36:59 ↗
for uh you know, no effectively no cost
1:37:02 ↗
increase uh um should the voters pass
1:37:05 ↗
this. Uh it was really great to be able
1:37:08 ↗
to um tell folks that at the farmers
1:37:11 ↗
market when they were looking at the
1:37:12 ↗
maps and I was able to show just how
1:37:15 ↗
spread across the city um things are.
1:37:17 ↗
And so um really appreciate all the
1:37:19 ↗
great work that you've done on this in a
1:37:21 ↗
short amount of time and looking forward
1:37:23 ↗
to continuing to you know bang on my
1:37:27 ↗
little pot and pan about North Isiqua in
1:37:29 ↗
conjunctions with this and um yeah,
1:37:32 ↗
thank you so much for your work. Can I
1:37:34 ↗
also add a personal thank you for the I
1:37:37 ↗
know at you Pole City the Ramos memorial
1:37:39 ↗
trail head but that trail head now has
1:37:42 ↗
memorial in the word for it and so um
1:37:46 ↗
mentor just the care that's going into
1:37:48 ↗
um that site um for practical purposes
1:37:51 ↗
right for the users of it but also for
1:37:54 ↗
me as someone who views that effectively
1:37:56 ↗
as memorial um I'm really excited for
1:37:59 ↗
the transformation that I'll see thank
1:38:03 ↗
>> excellent Thank you very much. Uh seeing
1:38:06 ↗
no further discussion, motion for the
1:38:09 ↗
council is adopt ordinance number 3142
1:38:11 ↗
providing for submission of the voters
1:38:13 ↗
of the city at a special election to be
1:38:14 ↗
held within the city on November 3rd,
1:38:18 ↗
general election be held on the same
1:38:19 ↗
date of a proposition authorizing the
1:38:20 ↗
city to issue its general obligation
1:38:22 ↗
bonds for the purpose of improving,
1:38:24 ↗
renovating, and equipping various parks
1:38:26 ↗
and open space properties related to
1:38:28 ↗
capital improvements and the principal
1:38:31 ↗
payable by annual property tax levies
1:38:32 ↗
made in excess regular property tax
1:38:34 ↗
levies to levy those excess property
1:38:36 ↗
taxes. All those in favor, please say I.
1:38:45 ↗
>> Okay. And that passes six to one with
1:38:49 ↗
council member Walsh voting no. Which
1:38:52 ↗
now moves us on to the fourth agenda
1:38:55 ↗
bill item which brought which brings our
1:38:58 ↗
departing deputy city administrator to
1:39:01 ↗
the council chambers because it's so
1:39:02 ↗
important to her. Uh the uh so agenda
1:39:09 ↗
opportunity center purchase and sale
1:39:13 ↗
administrator Andrea Snider. And when is
1:39:15 ↗
your fash is your official last day of
1:39:19 ↗
>> it's uh Wednesday, July 1st is my
1:39:22 ↗
>> There you go. Wednesday, July 1st. And
1:39:24 ↗
then uh and then I think Jillian's also
1:39:29 ↗
>> uh well, more than pinch hitting. So I
1:39:30 ↗
invite Jillian to come up so you can set
1:39:32 ↗
up the PowerPoint. I know that takes
1:39:33 ↗
some time. And while she's doing that, I
1:39:35 ↗
just wanted to give some opening remarks
1:39:37 ↗
for this very big item before council.
1:39:40 ↗
Um uh so uh I am pleased to be here
1:39:46 ↗
introductory remarks. This will be the
1:39:53 ↗
administration. So um don't worry, I'm
1:39:55 ↗
not going to make any other surprise
1:39:56 ↗
appearances. Uh but just wanted to uh
1:40:00 ↗
introduce this item and um our guest
1:40:04 ↗
tonight really marks kind of a a change
1:40:07 ↗
in this project. The past many meetings
1:40:13 ↗
the um we have focused a lot on the to
1:40:17 ↗
portion of the transportation um or or
1:40:21 ↗
transit oriented development portion
1:40:24 ↗
development. I am pleased to let you
1:40:26 ↗
know that the permits have been issued
1:40:28 ↗
for the first uh housing project on that
1:40:32 ↗
site. And so that work is underway.
1:40:35 ↗
Now, we're going to shift gears and talk
1:40:37 ↗
more about the opportunity center, the
1:40:40 ↗
OC part of that acronym. And that's
1:40:43 ↗
something that we haven't always talked
1:40:45 ↗
much about in the council chambers. And
1:40:46 ↗
that's really where the bulk of the work
1:40:48 ↗
with um council is going to be moving
1:40:51 ↗
forward. And also, it represents kind of
1:40:54 ↗
a changing of the guard. So, as you
1:40:56 ↗
know, uh I am leaving this is my last
1:40:59 ↗
city council meeting as I said. Also, we
1:41:01 ↗
have Dan Landis with us tonight who is
1:41:06 ↗
project since the very beginning. Dan
1:41:09 ↗
Authority. Dan is going to be retiring
1:41:13 ↗
uh really tomorrow. Okay. Tomorrow. And
1:41:18 ↗
he has been working on this project
1:41:21 ↗
Authorities behalf since the city issued
1:41:27 ↗
So, um, wanted to acknowledge Dan and
1:41:30 ↗
all of the work that he has done to make
1:41:31 ↗
this project happen as, um, it's been
1:41:38 ↗
commitment and KCHA didn't pull out
1:41:41 ↗
despite all of the complications and how
1:41:43 ↗
much this project has taken in terms of
1:41:45 ↗
staff time and also just investment. So,
1:41:48 ↗
wanted to acknowledge Dan. Also with us
1:41:51 ↗
manager moving forward uh for uh the TOD
1:41:56 ↗
and uh the OC in terms of we are um
1:42:00 ↗
looking at this condominium unit within
1:42:02 ↗
the greater development of the project.
1:42:04 ↗
So wanted to um also as we talk about
1:42:07 ↗
the changing of the guard um really
1:42:11 ↗
management analyst. You've seen her
1:42:12 ↗
before but she is the day-to-day project
1:42:14 ↗
manager on behalf of the city. And so
1:42:17 ↗
not quite the pinch hitter, she uh is
1:42:19 ↗
the subject matter expert and is going
1:42:21 ↗
to be handling the presentation tonight.
1:42:23 ↗
She is absolutely the expert who knows
1:42:26 ↗
tenants, all the process that we've been
1:42:28 ↗
through over the past couple of years.
1:42:30 ↗
Jillian has all of those details and
1:42:32 ↗
will be managing the project for the
1:42:34 ↗
opportunity center uh moving forward. So
1:42:39 ↗
>> And and Dan, I apologize if we expedited
1:42:41 ↗
your retirement by three or four years.
1:42:43 ↗
We know this we know this project has
1:42:49 ↗
>> thank you for that introduction. Um long
1:42:51 ↗
awaited I think is a is a good way to
1:42:53 ↗
describe the the discussion we're going
1:42:57 ↗
mentioned, we're here tonight to discuss
1:42:58 ↗
the purchase and sale agreement of the
1:43:00 ↗
opportunity center as well as the condo
1:43:04 ↗
Um, so we're seeking council approval on
1:43:06 ↗
purchasing the opportunity center, the
1:43:08 ↗
funding used to make that purchase, as
1:43:09 ↗
well as authorizing the mayor for some
1:43:11 ↗
uh decisions that may or may not be
1:43:13 ↗
needed as we work through the purchase
1:43:14 ↗
over the next year and a half or so, as
1:43:18 ↗
agreements tonight. So, I'm not going to
1:43:22 ↗
recommendations here because we're going
1:43:24 ↗
to spend a lot of time discussing them
1:43:25 ↗
tonight. I'll just note that the um that
1:43:30 ↗
the first recommendation is to purchase
1:43:32 ↗
the opportunity center from KCHA and
1:43:34 ↗
designate that funding. The next three
1:43:38 ↗
authorizations for the mayor that may be
1:43:44 ↗
So, let's talk a little bit about what
1:43:45 ↗
the opportunity center is. So, there's a
1:43:47 ↗
diagram on the right of your screen.
1:43:49 ↗
This is the this is the lot that's east
1:43:50 ↗
of the transit center on the valley
1:43:53 ↗
floor. On the north side, there's going
1:43:55 ↗
development. On the ground floor, the
1:44:04 ↗
ft if you want to be particular. Um
1:44:07 ↗
there will also be um Leo House units in
1:44:10 ↗
this building and it'll be affordable
1:44:12 ↗
housing above it. The um KCHA will own
1:44:16 ↗
the land and is developing the site per
1:44:18 ↗
the 2022 ILA. They're providing the
1:44:20 ↗
shell of the or the commercial condo
1:44:22 ↗
shell for the opportunity center at cost
1:44:25 ↗
to the city rather than market rate. The
1:44:28 ↗
city has long designated that there'll
1:44:29 ↗
be the provision of sliding scale or
1:44:32 ↗
public behavioral health, dental health
1:44:33 ↗
or medical health services out of this
1:44:36 ↗
space um and that the city would seek
1:44:38 ↗
tenants and um offer below market rate
1:44:41 ↗
rents to ensure that these services were
1:44:47 ↗
Like has already been mentioned, this
1:44:48 ↗
project has been underway for a very
1:44:50 ↗
long time. So I'll just hit a couple of
1:44:51 ↗
the highlights that that have brought us
1:44:53 ↗
here today. So in 2016, the city issued
1:44:56 ↗
the RFP to redevelop the tood site. At
1:44:59 ↗
the time, the city did not own the land.
1:45:00 ↗
Um but they had a very clear vision for
1:45:02 ↗
mixed use affordable and market rate
1:45:05 ↗
housing as well as um the provision of
1:45:07 ↗
these human services and behavioral
1:45:09 ↗
health services on the site. In 2017,
1:45:12 ↗
the city entered into or selected KCHA
1:45:15 ↗
and Spectrum to develop the site for
1:45:17 ↗
affordable and market rate housing that
1:45:20 ↗
their proposals included the provision
1:45:22 ↗
of the opportunity center at that time.
1:45:32 ↗
selected Valley City's behavioral health
1:45:36 ↗
behavioral health and dental health
1:45:39 ↗
opportunity center. In 2019, the city
1:45:42 ↗
was awarded a direct appropriation of $3
1:45:44 ↗
million under the state's behavioral
1:45:46 ↗
health program. And then in 2022, a lot
1:45:49 ↗
of work in the interim came to a head.
1:45:56 ↗
Tibbitz Valley Park lease to relocate a
1:45:58 ↗
cell tower that was on the site. It's in
1:46:00 ↗
this ILA that it's designated that KCHA
1:46:02 ↗
would provide the opportunity center to
1:46:05 ↗
the city at cost. This is also the year
1:46:10 ↗
Additionally, Spectrum, the market rate
1:46:12 ↗
partnership at this time. In 2024, KCHA
1:46:15 ↗
began design and in the subsequent year,
1:46:18 ↗
the cell tower was removed from the
1:46:19 ↗
site. The city sought reappropriation of
1:46:22 ↗
the $3 million to a more flexible state
1:46:25 ↗
program and thanks to our legislative
1:46:27 ↗
delegation that was awarded. Our health
1:46:30 ↗
services providers also dropped out of
1:46:31 ↗
the partnership at the time. They had
1:46:33 ↗
been on board for seven or eight years
1:46:35 ↗
at this point and the the environment
1:46:37 ↗
around behavioral health provision,
1:46:39 ↗
public behavioral health provision had
1:46:42 ↗
considering the federal um announcements
1:46:47 ↗
reimbursements for public behavioral
1:46:49 ↗
health services that were going to take
1:46:53 ↗
So the administr the administration came
1:46:57 ↗
committee as well as the council for
1:46:59 ↗
direction on how to proceed with the
1:47:03 ↗
partners on board anymore. The council
1:47:05 ↗
and committee both gave direction that
1:47:09 ↗
acquisition of the opportunity center.
1:47:11 ↗
So KCHA and the administration have been
1:47:13 ↗
working over the the better part of the
1:47:14 ↗
last year on that purchase and sale
1:47:16 ↗
agreement and the condo agreements that
1:47:21 ↗
So, let's talk a little bit about why
1:47:22 ↗
this is a good investment of city funds
1:47:24 ↗
and why it's been a priority for so
1:47:29 ↗
assessment noted that mental health
1:47:30 ↗
distress across age groups was a was a
1:47:32 ↗
prime concern in Isiqua and that there
1:47:35 ↗
was no public behavioral health services
1:47:37 ↗
for adults in 2026. That gap remains.
1:47:41 ↗
There are still no public behavioral
1:47:43 ↗
health services for adults. So, this has
1:47:46 ↗
been a long-standing community need
1:47:47 ↗
originating with the human services
1:47:49 ↗
campus idea and it was enshrined in the
1:47:51 ↗
RFP um for selecting our developers in
1:47:58 ↗
long-standing community priority given
1:48:00 ↗
both the need and the gap that exists in
1:48:05 ↗
Because our health services providers
1:48:07 ↗
dropped out in 2025, the administration
1:48:10 ↗
services safety and parks and later the
1:48:14 ↗
included pursuing different models for
1:48:17 ↗
service provision. Something like the
1:48:18 ↗
Together Center where we have quite a
1:48:20 ↗
few tenants in the opportunity space
1:48:22 ↗
rather than the one or two that we had
1:48:24 ↗
previously been seeking. Um other uses
1:48:28 ↗
transitional housing or not purchasing
1:48:30 ↗
the opportunity center at that time
1:48:32 ↗
where the project was at in design would
1:48:35 ↗
have been a good time for KCHA to pivot
1:48:37 ↗
without losing time or money on the
1:48:39 ↗
design and keeping their their overall
1:48:44 ↗
safety and parks or to and then to the
1:48:49 ↗
unanimous direction in September of 2025
1:48:52 ↗
to proceed with the acquisition of the
1:49:00 ↗
So there are quite a few folks who are
1:49:02 ↗
kind of involved in this. So I just want
1:49:04 ↗
to kind of quickly lay out who all the
1:49:06 ↗
agreements are between. The city is
1:49:09 ↗
Trailhead Apartments LLP. KCHA is the
1:49:13 ↗
general partner of Trail Head Apartments
1:49:14 ↗
and they are here tonight in case you
1:49:15 ↗
want to hear more about that because
1:49:16 ↗
that's really their purview to explain.
1:49:19 ↗
There are also the condo agreements, the
1:49:21 ↗
declaration, articles and bylaws that
1:49:23 ↗
travel with the purchase. Because we're
1:49:25 ↗
purchasing a condo that has not yet been
1:49:27 ↗
built, but we will have to establish
1:49:28 ↗
what our working relationship is with
1:49:36 ↗
purchase and sale agreement. They would
1:49:38 ↗
be entered into by Trail Head Apartments
1:49:40 ↗
and the Trail Head Plaza condominium of
1:49:46 ↗
negotiated with with each of the units
1:49:50 ↗
they're necessary to purchase the the
1:49:56 ↗
So, the initial purchase price for the
1:49:59 ↗
opportunity center condo, the unfinished
1:50:08 ↗
because it has not yet been constructed.
1:50:10 ↗
The way this agreement will work is that
1:50:13 ↗
um in 2027 when the construction is
1:50:18 ↗
closing, the city would u pay the final
1:50:21 ↗
purchase price minus the money put down
1:50:23 ↗
in 2026 for the earnest money payment or
1:50:30 ↗
There are a lot of provisions for what
1:50:34 ↗
increases that we're going to talk about
1:50:36 ↗
tonight. Um, and the first one I want to
1:50:37 ↗
note that is that additional costs of
1:50:42 ↗
or 5% of the initial purchase price,
1:50:47 ↗
responsibility. Additional costs beyond
1:50:49 ↗
that are split split evenly between the
1:50:56 ↗
purchase price includes a fair bit of
1:51:00 ↗
contingency built in as a line item to
1:51:02 ↗
the budget in exhibit B of the PSA.
1:51:06 ↗
Walsh, the construction manager, and
1:51:08 ↗
KCHA are carrying, which reduces the
1:51:11 ↗
likelihood of us needing to go above the
1:51:13 ↗
purchase price as we as we work through
1:51:15 ↗
this agreement. I'll also note that what
1:51:18 ↗
we're getting for for this purchase is
1:51:20 ↗
the 10,000 foot condo as well as 38
1:51:23 ↗
dedicated parking spaces on the ground
1:51:25 ↗
floor of the parking structure structure
1:51:32 ↗
So when we received the initial purchase
1:51:33 ↗
price, we compared it to properties um
1:51:36 ↗
in the area to make sure that we were
1:51:38 ↗
this was a good use of city funds. So we
1:51:40 ↗
compared it to medical office space sold
1:51:42 ↗
in the last 2 years, that same kind of
1:51:44 ↗
space for sale uh generally in the east
1:51:47 ↗
side and that kind of space for sale
1:51:52 ↗
square foot for the opportunity center
1:51:56 ↗
The price per square foot for um spaces
1:51:59 ↗
sold um in the last two years in those
1:52:01 ↗
categories or currently for sale is $618
1:52:04 ↗
to $664 on average. I'll note that this
1:52:08 ↗
is an imperfect comparison for a couple
1:52:10 ↗
of reasons. One, we're getting new build
1:52:16 ↗
development with easy access to the
1:52:18 ↗
services that we would provide. Um and
1:52:20 ↗
the fact that this this development is
1:52:22 ↗
mixed use. Um the average age of the
1:52:25 ↗
properties we compared this to is about
1:52:28 ↗
renovations. Um but if they did they
1:52:30 ↗
those renovations were about 20 years
1:52:32 ↗
ago. So just to compare a little bit to
1:52:39 ↗
We also have we also wanted to see um
1:52:41 ↗
how this property compared um to other
1:52:44 ↗
other properties available in Isiqua if
1:52:46 ↗
we wanted to locate the opportunity
1:52:48 ↗
center outside of this project. Um, and
1:52:51 ↗
realistically there hasn't been anything
1:52:53 ↗
sold in Isiqua recently that's in the 8
1:52:55 ↗
to 12,000 square foot range, which is
1:52:57 ↗
about what we need. Um, or within a half
1:53:00 ↗
mile of transit, which is necessary for
1:53:02 ↗
for us to use our state grant. I'll also
1:53:05 ↗
note that the city is in the unique
1:53:06 ↗
position of having recently bought a
1:53:07 ↗
city hall and that CBRE had estimated
1:53:10 ↗
that the price per square foot um of
1:53:12 ↗
that office space was going to be about
1:53:14 ↗
$725 in a Siqua and we'd have to do
1:53:17 ↗
tenant improvements to the space. So,
1:53:19 ↗
this is kind of well within what we
1:53:26 ↗
improvements. While they're not subject
1:53:27 ↗
to the PSA tonight, um that they would
1:53:29 ↗
be planned for after construction of the
1:53:31 ↗
building completes in 2027, we would go
1:53:34 ↗
in and construct the interior of the
1:53:35 ↗
opportunity center. The city and our
1:53:38 ↗
tenants would work out through our lease
1:53:39 ↗
agreement who exactly is responsible
1:53:41 ↗
for, you know, for example, getting an
1:53:43 ↗
architect on board and paying for the
1:53:47 ↗
um but they would be to build out the
1:53:49 ↗
HVAC or plumbing, drywall and fixtures
1:53:53 ↗
facilities team as well as behavioral
1:53:55 ↗
health providers in the region who um do
1:53:58 ↗
this kind of work and they estimated
1:53:59 ↗
that to build out medical office space
1:54:01 ↗
would be between $225 a square foot to
1:54:04 ↗
$300 a square foot for these kinds of
1:54:07 ↗
improvements. Those estimates are lower
1:54:09 ↗
if it's just behavioral health provided
1:54:10 ↗
in the space and no dental or medical.
1:54:15 ↗
The city has set aside funding for the
1:54:17 ↗
acquisition and tenant improvements for
1:54:19 ↗
the opportunity center for many years.
1:54:21 ↗
There are three main buckets of funds.
1:54:23 ↗
First, the affordable housing fund. The
1:54:24 ↗
city has designated $5 million to go
1:54:27 ↗
towards the opportunity center. There
1:54:30 ↗
are also funds set aside about a million
1:54:32 ↗
in the mitigation fund in the from the
1:54:34 ↗
talis development agreement uh fee and
1:54:36 ↗
loo as well as the human services campus
1:54:39 ↗
and that's about a million dollars to be
1:54:41 ↗
used for affordable housing or human
1:54:42 ↗
services. We also have a $3 million
1:54:46 ↗
community program from the state. Um
1:54:49 ↗
I'll note here that a requirement of
1:54:51 ↗
that is that we locate this facility in
1:54:52 ↗
that in a way that has transit access
1:54:54 ↗
which is why that's so important and
1:54:57 ↗
that this funding technically expires at
1:54:59 ↗
the end of the bienium June 30th 2027.
1:55:02 ↗
We anticipate being able to roll over
1:55:07 ↗
um and speaking with our program manager
1:55:09 ↗
at Commerce so that we would receive
1:55:10 ↗
reimbursement after the acquisition in
1:55:12 ↗
early 2028. And I'm happy to answer more
1:55:17 ↗
Because the initial purchase price for
1:55:19 ↗
the opportunity center is seven and a
1:55:21 ↗
half million, we propose putting down an
1:55:24 ↗
mitigation funds here in July of 2026
1:55:27 ↗
and then concluding or finishing the
1:55:29 ↗
payment with the construction closing in
1:55:31 ↗
late 2027 using the remainder of the
1:55:35 ↗
affordable housing fund set aside as
1:55:37 ↗
well as an additional million and a
1:55:38 ↗
halfish of affordable housing funds that
1:55:40 ↗
would need to be set aside to complete
1:55:43 ↗
the affordable housing fund would be
1:55:53 ↗
There we go. Um, so in addition to the
1:55:56 ↗
$5 million set aside, the administration
1:55:58 ↗
is proposing setting aside a million an
1:56:00 ↗
additional 2 and a.5 million from the
1:56:02 ↗
affordable housing fund to cover the
1:56:05 ↗
initial purchase price if there were any
1:56:06 ↗
increases to the purchase price, but
1:56:08 ↗
also potentially some of those tenant
1:56:10 ↗
improvements that we know we might have
1:56:13 ↗
tenants. Finance has confirmed that the
1:56:15 ↗
affordable housing fund can support this
1:56:17 ↗
and the reimbursement from the state
1:56:19 ↗
state grant would go to the affordable
1:56:20 ↗
housing fund meaning there would be um
1:56:23 ↗
sufficient fund balance to designate for
1:56:25 ↗
other capital investments in the future.
1:56:31 ↗
purchase and sale agreement part of the
1:56:32 ↗
presentation before going quickly into
1:56:34 ↗
some of the mayor's authorizations and
1:56:35 ↗
the condo agreements. There are some
1:56:37 ↗
trade-offs that come with not purchasing
1:56:39 ↗
the opportunity center. First, like
1:56:40 ↗
we've discussed, it's improbable that we
1:56:42 ↗
would find suitable space near transit.
1:56:44 ↗
We've conducted these searches in 2025
1:56:46 ↗
and 2026 just to see what was out there
1:56:49 ↗
and see if there's something else in
1:56:50 ↗
Isiqua um that we could where we could
1:56:53 ↗
locate the opportunity center. It's also
1:56:55 ↗
there's also no guarantee that any other
1:56:57 ↗
space found would be less expensive to
1:56:59 ↗
purchase and improve than this space
1:57:04 ↗
building. Additionally, the opportunity
1:57:07 ↗
center space that's been reserved in
1:57:08 ↗
that building would be KCHAs to use, and
1:57:11 ↗
they're a housing authority. It's not
1:57:15 ↗
commercial space. They're doing it at
1:57:17 ↗
certainly speak more to what that space
1:57:19 ↗
might become if it wasn't going to be
1:57:22 ↗
something that's resident supporting.
1:57:26 ↗
Okay. So, let's talk about the mayor's
1:57:28 ↗
authorization sought tonight. So, the
1:57:30 ↗
first is for material adverse impacts.
1:57:33 ↗
The PSA stipulates that the seller needs
1:57:35 ↗
written approval of changes that qualify
1:57:36 ↗
as material adverse impacts and the city
1:57:39 ↗
has to respond to those changes within
1:57:40 ↗
10 business days. A material adverse
1:57:43 ↗
impact is an individual or cumulative
1:57:50 ↗
footage to the opportunity center due to
1:57:55 ↗
Um, we're seeking city council approval
1:57:56 ↗
for the mayor to approve changes due to
1:58:01 ↗
$500,000 increase in purchase price.
1:58:07 ↗
financial management policy. I think
1:58:09 ↗
this is easier to to visualize rather
1:58:11 ↗
than talk through. So on your screen you
1:58:14 ↗
have um essentially what would happen at
1:58:17 ↗
various levels of increase to purchase
1:58:19 ↗
price. Um if there were individual or
1:58:27 ↗
the seller would be responsible for
1:58:29 ↗
approving those changes, not the mayor,
1:58:31 ↗
not the city, and the city would bear
1:58:33 ↗
those costs. That's the material adverse
1:58:36 ↗
impact threshold. After that point, the
1:58:38 ↗
city and the seller share the costs
1:58:40 ↗
evenly. We're seeking additional mayoral
1:58:47 ↗
for the mayor to be able to approve
1:58:49 ↗
those change orders for expediency.
1:58:52 ↗
After that point, we're at $500,000
1:58:54 ↗
increase in cost and we would come to
1:58:55 ↗
city c we would propose that we would
1:58:57 ↗
come to city council at that point to
1:59:02 ↗
unlikely given the amount of contingency
1:59:04 ↗
baked into the project. Um but we just
1:59:09 ↗
Additionally, the city may have requests
1:59:10 ↗
that increase the purchase price. These
1:59:12 ↗
are not material adverse impacts. The
1:59:14 ↗
city is solely responsible for this cost
1:59:16 ↗
or seeking city council authority to
1:59:18 ↗
have the mayor authorize increases in
1:59:20 ↗
costs at the city's request. Um that
1:59:23 ↗
would have an individual or cumulative
1:59:33 ↗
Okay. The condominium agreements. So
1:59:40 ↗
relationship between all the condo unit
1:59:43 ↗
owners in the north building on the
1:59:45 ↗
site. These agreements are between the
1:59:47 ↗
trailhead plaza condominium of which the
1:59:49 ↗
city would be an owner and the trail
1:59:53 ↗
So the documents include the articles of
1:59:56 ↗
incorporation. They define the condo
1:59:58 ↗
association's purpose under RCW as well
2:00:01 ↗
as the five members of the condo board.
2:00:03 ↗
Three of those would be representing
2:00:04 ↗
trailhead Apartments or KCHA. One of
2:00:07 ↗
those would be a representative of the
2:00:10 ↗
representative representative of Leo
2:00:16 ↗
describes the units, their boundaries,
2:00:21 ↗
permitted uses among other things. It
2:00:23 ↗
importantly also establishes voting
2:00:24 ↗
power because KCHA um or Trail Head
2:00:30 ↗
overall square footage of the building.
2:00:34 ↗
power. So there are some elements that
2:00:36 ↗
require unanimous vote like changes to
2:00:39 ↗
um sorry there are some uh actions that
2:00:44 ↗
include changes to common elements,
2:00:46 ↗
adoption of the annual budget or any
2:00:49 ↗
documents. There's also mention in the
2:00:54 ↗
This is a 99-year lease between Trail
2:00:57 ↗
Head Apartments and King County Housing
2:00:59 ↗
Authority. King County Housing Authority
2:01:01 ↗
would own the land and lease it to Trail
2:01:03 ↗
Head Apartments for the length of this
2:01:05 ↗
term. It establishes ownership of the
2:01:07 ↗
land versus the building. Um, the city's
2:01:09 ↗
ownership is of the condominium unit.
2:01:11 ↗
So, in 99 years, if that building were
2:01:16 ↗
everything on it would be conveyed back
2:01:17 ↗
to KCHA and the city would no longer
2:01:19 ↗
have ownership of the building or of the
2:01:25 ↗
Additionally, there are bylaws that are
2:01:28 ↗
are pretty standard governing meeting
2:01:30 ↗
procedures and how the board can act.
2:01:33 ↗
The final authorization we're seeking
2:01:34 ↗
from you tonight is the appointment to
2:01:36 ↗
the condo board. Once the condominium
2:01:38 ↗
assoc association is created, the city
2:01:40 ↗
needs to appoint a board member. They're
2:01:42 ↗
going to decide on things like signage
2:01:44 ↗
for its tenants, budgets, things like
2:01:46 ↗
that. We're seeking council authority
2:01:48 ↗
for the mayor to appoint the appropriate
2:01:58 ↗
So next steps, if the PSA is approved,
2:02:00 ↗
the earnest money would be would be paid
2:02:04 ↗
Over the next 18 months, the city would
2:02:06 ↗
continue continue to pursue behavioral
2:02:10 ↗
tenants, conducting an RFP process to
2:02:12 ↗
select them, um and beginning the the
2:02:15 ↗
negotiations over lease agreements, as
2:02:18 ↗
improvements. In late 2027, we would
2:02:20 ↗
close on the purchase of the opportunity
2:02:22 ↗
center, making that final payment, and
2:02:24 ↗
then in 2028, we would receive that
2:02:28 ↗
improvements to finish the opportunity
2:02:33 ↗
So, with that, the four motions are in
2:02:35 ↗
front of you tonight, and I'm happy to
2:02:40 ↗
Okay, as you could tell that we are in
2:02:42 ↗
good hands as Andrea moves on to Swami
2:02:45 ↗
Jillian has an amazing grasp of these
2:02:47 ↗
topics and I realize council member Joe
2:02:53 ↗
dollars aside. You actually could have
2:02:54 ↗
been involved in that. So I might have
2:02:56 ↗
to eat my words of uh on that front.
2:03:01 ↗
>> thank you and thank you for the great
2:03:03 ↗
presentation. Chillian. Um I am trying
2:03:07 ↗
to understand the funding that we have
2:03:11 ↗
set aside on this project. Obviously
2:03:17 ↗
>> A lot of our previous conversation as
2:03:19 ↗
has been mentioned um was about the
2:03:24 ↗
to portion of the project. And so I'm
2:03:27 ↗
trying to remember the $5 million we set
2:03:35 ↗
>> I believe that was set aside, if I
2:03:38 ↗
remember correctly from your emails,
2:03:41 ↗
that was an allocation or a promise that
2:03:50 ↗
authorization or direction in 2018 to
2:03:54 ↗
acquisition of the opportunity center,
2:03:56 ↗
an additional 2 and a4 million for the
2:03:59 ↗
tenant improvements for the opportunity
2:04:04 ↗
>> Okay. And the affordable housing fund
2:04:07 ↗
hadn't been established at that time.
2:04:13 ↗
together here is there was a previous
2:04:16 ↗
commitment to just over $5 million and
2:04:20 ↗
here we are saying where those revenue
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or where those dollars will come from.
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>> That's correct. And there's been
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throughout the years. has typically been
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held in the affordable housing fund
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which was previously co-mingled with the
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general fund but it's always been held
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>> Yeah. So let me ask about that because I
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remember setting aside money from the
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specifically from the affordable housing
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fund for the opportunity center. the
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affordable housing fund made IHIP and
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supported the um that did support the
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TOD part of the project, the the part
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that KCHJ is better supposed to speak
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to. Um but then later the $5 million
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previously set aside in the general fund
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when the affordable housing fund was
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created, um those revenues would be
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would be used for for this purchase. And
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>> So, is this a new proposal then or is
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because I'm I'm really trying to rack my
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brain about when that happened that we
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given the timing, so the the $5 million
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there the set aside has always been in
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revenues as long as I've been at the
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city. I don't know if there's any other
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history there that we could share, but
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>> Okay. Um, I would still love to be able
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to track that down because I haven't
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been able to um figure that out. But
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transitoriented development side. None
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>> Correct. I believe the city is finished
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its contributions to the TOD side of the
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project with the last IHIP contribution
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and the last dispersement of ARCH funds
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that are obviously co-mingled with other
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One exception which is a grant that
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Jillian actually applied for and was
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successful in which is um when we wave
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affordable housing fees. So permit fees,
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development fees that we charge any
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other development, we waved those. The
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city actually has to pay a portion of
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those back. And so um Jillian was able
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to get a grant to help pay for those.
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anticipated maybe some of those funds
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would be used for, but she was able to
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secure other funding for that. Okay. Um,
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and then further talking about this
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with from the state that is the direct
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appropriation for the local community
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program, as you said, is not anticipated
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>> Yes. Is there anything in this ordinance
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affordable housing fund or is that a
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decision that we make at a later point?
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>> Yeah, let me pull up the motions really
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quick um and talk about just kind of the
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motion at the very end, it it says that
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this would be this purchase would be
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funded by mitigation and affordable
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housing funds. We spent a lot of time
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talking with finance about what kind of
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language they would need to know to hold
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this as they present to you I believe in
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July about the affordable housing fund
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process and their proposal for it. So
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this is what they needed to hold those
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funds. Um and then it's always been our
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reimbursement go to the funding sources
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that that make the purchase I think that
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would be fine. But that's always been
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our our proposal. Okay. Is that the
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affordable housing fund is made as whole
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>> Yeah. And maybe I will either we don't
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anything that we need to do to ensure
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when the state reimbures us that the
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those dollars go back to the affordable
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housing fund that it was taken from in
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addition to what the um language here is
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Uh that is the intent. I'll look at the
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city attorney. Um that could be included
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in this motion or a subsequent motion if
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>> No. So during the grant contracting
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>> Okay. My concern there is that we are
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requires us to put the money back. Um
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>> I I think our understanding is we can't
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accept that $3 million grant. We have to
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come back to council and so we're going
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to put it back in the housing fund. I
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mean the housing fund will have three
2:10:01 ↗
and a half$4 million. We have to dip
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second the purchase closes, we get the
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$3 million and the housing fund is made
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and I feel like there I agree with the
2:10:18 ↗
city attorney. I think when we actually
2:10:19 ↗
accept that $3 million, council will I
2:10:23 ↗
mean, we're going to put it back in the
2:10:24 ↗
housing fund, but if we want to make
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that part of the ordinance of where it
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goes, that's really easy to do, I think,
2:10:29 ↗
>> But the appropriate time for that would
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be when we accept the grant dollars.
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>> Okay. I'll save that for my comments.
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Um, but that was Yeah, that is one of my
2:10:50 ↗
>> Uh, thank you. I'm trying to make the
2:10:52 ↗
math work on a different slide. Can you
2:11:09 ↗
so that the 2.5 million where is I'm I'm
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having I can't quite trace where that
2:11:15 ↗
breaks down otherwise. On the slide
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before that, it says 1.4 million is
2:11:20 ↗
needed and is an additional set aside.
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Um, and I don't see another million
2:11:26 ↗
dollars making that up elsewhere. So
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maybe I can make this a clear question.
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Where does that $2.5 million come from?
2:11:40 ↗
affordable housing funding that we are
2:11:43 ↗
purchase of the opportunity center is
2:11:45 ↗
really just to be prudent in planning.
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So this is in case the uh the purchase
2:11:50 ↗
purchase price that we have that we have
2:11:52 ↗
from KCHA of 7.5 million here today. Um
2:11:56 ↗
so that's the additional 1.4 to meet
2:11:59 ↗
that purchase price and an additional
2:12:00 ↗
million in case the purchase price were
2:12:02 ↗
to increase. We also know we have some
2:12:04 ↗
amount of tenant improvement subject to
2:12:07 ↗
the lease agreements with our tenants.
2:12:09 ↗
Um and and all of that to make um so
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this could provide funding for that as
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>> Primary purchase is to ensure that we
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>> Let me try to restate that to see if I
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got it. So we need 1.4. You you believe
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>> I know that we need Okay, we know we
2:12:33 ↗
number is adding another million dollars
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>> But I would say a half million is
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contingency. The other half million is
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>> So yeah, so you have that extra half
2:12:49 ↗
million just in case it went all the way
2:12:51 ↗
up to 8 million. But we also know we're
2:12:54 ↗
expecting two to three million of tenant
2:12:55 ↗
improvements. We have no idea based on
2:12:57 ↗
the tenants if we're responsible for 20%
2:13:00 ↗
of that or 80% of that. We think at a
2:13:03 ↗
minimum we're responsible for 20% of the
2:13:05 ↗
tenant improvements. So that 500,000
2:13:07 ↗
lets you at least start on some of the
2:13:09 ↗
tenant improvements right away as we're
2:13:17 ↗
>> Um I guess you just answered my first
2:13:19 ↗
question which was what city account
2:13:21 ↗
would the tenant improvement funding
2:13:23 ↗
come out of? So, you're saying it would
2:13:24 ↗
come out of the affordable housing fund?
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>> Yeah, that's our plan. Um, city council,
2:13:29 ↗
we could bring a different proposal if
2:13:31 ↗
they were to exceed a certain amount.
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curiosity, I'm curious how the breakdown
2:13:38 ↗
in cost for the opportunity center is
2:13:40 ↗
calculated given that it's part of a
2:13:41 ↗
larger building like are we prorating
2:13:43 ↗
like a share of the like foundation and
2:13:45 ↗
roof or what's the breakdown? Yeah, I
2:13:47 ↗
think actually I'd like to turn that
2:13:48 ↗
over to to KCHA because they can give
2:13:50 ↗
you a more detailed explanation than
2:14:02 ↗
>> So, Dan Landis, King County Housing
2:14:05 ↗
Authority. Uh we asked our contractor to
2:14:09 ↗
uh look in spec specifically what it's
2:14:12 ↗
what costs um are properly allocated to
2:14:16 ↗
the opportunity center based on it's you
2:14:19 ↗
know different kind of space. It's not
2:14:24 ↗
proration of parking than than the other
2:14:27 ↗
rest of the building does. So it's all
2:14:30 ↗
all of the costs are based on what the
2:14:32 ↗
contractor has told us. And we've had a
2:14:34 ↗
lot of back and forth to make sure that
2:14:36 ↗
they got it right. But it's based on the
2:14:41 ↗
our square footage cost is going to be
2:14:42 ↗
higher because for the I mean you have
2:14:46 ↗
more parking, but for the actual space
2:14:47 ↗
itself, your space won't be finished.
2:14:50 ↗
Our space will be finished. So all of
2:14:51 ↗
that's accounted for. Uh, we're not
2:14:53 ↗
prorrating the entire cost. We're we ask
2:14:56 ↗
the contractor to to actually break it
2:15:00 ↗
>> Great. Thank you. Um, okay. And one last
2:15:03 ↗
question. So I remember when we had
2:15:05 ↗
approved or I think back in, you know,
2:15:08 ↗
July or September of last year where we
2:15:10 ↗
talked about purchasing the opportunity
2:15:11 ↗
center, there was some talk about, you
2:15:12 ↗
know, do we want to have one tenant or
2:15:16 ↗
different tenants? Um so I'm curious
2:15:18 ↗
what the current status is on, you know,
2:15:21 ↗
finding tenants for the opportunity
2:15:24 ↗
council direction, um the administration
2:15:27 ↗
reached out to a lot of the federally
2:15:29 ↗
qualified health centers and other kind
2:15:30 ↗
of larger providers in the Puget Sound
2:15:35 ↗
opportunity. We then conducted a letters
2:15:37 ↗
of interest process working with the
2:15:39 ↗
human services team here in Isiqua to
2:15:41 ↗
talk with providers who are already
2:15:48 ↗
questionnaire that was basically how
2:15:49 ↗
much space do you want? What kind of
2:15:51 ↗
services would you like to provide? We
2:15:53 ↗
got a few um a few potential tenants
2:15:56 ↗
from that process. We also have then
2:15:58 ↗
since worked with the Department of
2:16:00 ↗
Community and Human Services at King
2:16:02 ↗
County to advertise this space as well
2:16:05 ↗
and have gotten a a little bit more
2:16:07 ↗
interest um and are currently in talks
2:16:09 ↗
with two to three um different providers
2:16:14 ↗
>> and Jillian and I's coffee tomorrow
2:16:15 ↗
morning is with Sami Tribe at 8:30. So
2:16:17 ↗
we are going out to Swami Tribe because
2:16:20 ↗
they're a potential partner. Amy Winston
2:16:22 ↗
is from Udub Dentl is potential partner
2:16:24 ↗
on affordable dental access and that
2:16:26 ↗
meeting is next week. So yeah, we're
2:16:27 ↗
actively pursuing people to fill the
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>> Um for the the mayor authorization of
2:16:36 ↗
the 376 to 500,000. Um it's noted in
2:16:39 ↗
here that if if there is a change that
2:16:42 ↗
increases by more than that, you have to
2:16:46 ↗
um you know what is the timeline of
2:16:49 ↗
these potential changes is like do we
2:16:52 ↗
what would that process be if we don't
2:16:54 ↗
have a meeting within that 10 business
2:16:56 ↗
days like an emergency session or how we
2:16:58 ↗
do obviously this would be a big change
2:16:59 ↗
and they could just do it without our
2:17:01 ↗
>> Dan or Nate you want to come back up. I
2:17:07 ↗
stipulates that we have to provide a
2:17:08 ↗
response within 10 business days. So,
2:17:10 ↗
we'd have to schedule a special council
2:17:14 ↗
provide a decision. And I think maybe
2:17:16 ↗
that that timing was chosen to not hold
2:17:18 ↗
up the project um on the basis of of
2:17:21 ↗
those change orders more than two weeks.
2:17:24 ↗
But if there if I got that wrong, please
2:17:28 ↗
And I think part of the comfort level
2:17:31 ↗
here is if you add up the contingencies
2:17:34 ↗
between the two separate buckets that
2:17:36 ↗
are already in that $7.5 million price,
2:17:42 ↗
perfectly according to plan, which would
2:17:45 ↗
million. So things have to go wrong to
2:17:47 ↗
get to 7.5 million is sort of how I'm
2:17:49 ↗
thinking about it. And then they have to
2:17:50 ↗
go substantially sort of sideways to get
2:17:57 ↗
>> Yeah. toward that idea, we should be
2:18:02 ↗
started to get toward these areas, we
2:18:04 ↗
could make an adjustment so that we
2:18:06 ↗
didn't have to face a period when we had
2:18:08 ↗
a 10day special session or something
2:18:11 ↗
like that. But this gives the authority
2:18:15 ↗
within a a smaller scope um but which we
2:18:19 ↗
think is appropriate. Correct. Yeah.
2:18:21 ↗
Okay. I believe that Dan has something
2:18:29 ↗
If I could just add to this. So our
2:18:32 ↗
um interests are very aligned on this.
2:18:34 ↗
Our our costs are about 16 times what
2:18:37 ↗
yours are. And if your costs are going
2:18:39 ↗
up, our costs are going up 16 times
2:18:41 ↗
that. And so we I I think we're going to
2:18:44 ↗
manage this really carefully. We're
2:18:45 ↗
we're confident that our contingencies
2:18:47 ↗
are more than we will need uh before
2:18:50 ↗
anything above the before the purchase
2:18:52 ↗
price would ever change. and uh your
2:18:55 ↗
space is also on the ground floor. So um
2:18:59 ↗
it will be early on in the project where
2:19:02 ↗
uh all of the opportunities for your
2:19:07 ↗
happen. Uh we'll we'll continue to have
2:19:10 ↗
risk as we start building above above
2:19:12 ↗
the first floor for ours, but that won't
2:19:14 ↗
impact you anymore. So, I think there
2:19:15 ↗
will be lots of time to figure things
2:19:18 ↗
out if we if we hit that kind of crisis,
2:19:21 ↗
but it will be a much bigger deal for
2:19:27 ↗
existential crisis for the project from
2:19:29 ↗
our standpoint just because we would be
2:19:34 ↗
>> You could be retired on a beach in
2:19:36 ↗
>> I should say. It'll be a bigger a big
2:19:44 ↗
Okay, looking uh not seeing any other
2:19:51 ↗
>> I think I know the answer is yes, but
2:19:53 ↗
just to hear it from you to clarify any
2:19:56 ↗
potential mayoral authorization on the
2:20:02 ↗
>> Yes, that is that is limited to this to
2:20:04 ↗
the purchase of the opportunity center.
2:20:11 ↗
Okay. Uh, Council President Martz. Uh,
2:20:16 ↗
seeing no further questions, I move to
2:20:20 ↗
substantially the form as the attached
2:20:21 ↗
agreement exhibit A as approved by the
2:20:24 ↗
necessary to purchase the condominium to
2:20:29 ↗
located at 1467 Northwest Maple Street
2:20:32 ↗
in Isiqua from Trailhead Apartments LLP
2:20:35 ↗
at costs for the amount of 7,536,237
2:20:40 ↗
plus closing costs to be funded using
2:20:42 ↗
mitigation and affordable housing funds.
2:20:45 ↗
and authorize the mayor to review and
2:20:47 ↗
determine whether to execute change
2:20:49 ↗
orders from material adverse impacts as
2:20:51 ↗
defined in the purchase agreement as
2:20:52 ↗
individually or cumulatively resulting
2:20:54 ↗
in a purchase price increase of $376,812
2:21:01 ↗
or any reduction in the square footage
2:21:05 ↗
approved plans and authorize the mayor
2:21:09 ↗
execute change orders at the city's
2:21:11 ↗
request that would result individually
2:21:12 ↗
or cumulatively in an increase to the
2:21:14 ↗
purchase price of less than $376,812
2:21:18 ↗
and authorize the mayor to appoint a
2:21:28 ↗
>> Okay, there's been a motion and a
2:21:29 ↗
second. Normally, at my turn, I repeat
2:21:31 ↗
the motion, but given that I predict
2:21:33 ↗
this meeting at 9:57 tonight, I'm going
2:21:35 ↗
to say that I will refer to that as the
2:21:37 ↗
motion when it comes time to vote. Uh,
2:21:42 ↗
So, I'm not going to I'm not going to
2:21:44 ↗
talk long because most of have have
2:21:46 ↗
heard most of you have heard me app on
2:21:48 ↗
this issue many many many times before.
2:21:51 ↗
Um, I'll just say that one of the first
2:21:55 ↗
council in 2009 was go with my friend
2:21:58 ↗
Paul Winterstein up to the center in
2:22:03 ↗
understand what having these sort of
2:22:06 ↗
community services would can mean to a
2:22:11 ↗
catchment of approximately the size of
2:22:14 ↗
the Isiqua School District. Um, it would
2:22:16 ↗
be very impactful for our community. I
2:22:18 ↗
continue to strongly support this. I've
2:22:20 ↗
been strongly supporting this for 10
2:22:22 ↗
years. I'll be strongly supporting this
2:22:23 ↗
for however much longer it takes. I hope
2:22:25 ↗
the rest of you do as well. Thank you,
2:22:31 ↗
>> Council Member Adair. Uh yeah, and I
2:22:34 ↗
echo that. This is a project that I'm I
2:22:37 ↗
just really, you know, proud of the city
2:22:39 ↗
in terms of the work that has gone into
2:22:41 ↗
this to keep pushing and keep pushing
2:22:43 ↗
forward for something that I think is
2:22:44 ↗
really important and is an example of
2:22:47 ↗
something, you know, governments can do
2:22:49 ↗
if they push hard enough. You know, I do
2:22:51 ↗
have concerns. Obviously, we don't have
2:22:52 ↗
the tenants and there are issues there.
2:22:55 ↗
Um but I am and you know so part of me
2:22:58 ↗
gets a little worried about that aspect
2:23:00 ↗
of it but I do agree that we need to
2:23:02 ↗
continue moving forward and do believe
2:23:04 ↗
that the tenants will be there and that
2:23:06 ↗
they're you know reservations just been
2:23:09 ↗
the climate we're in and how long it has
2:23:10 ↗
taken to get here but that once it's
2:23:12 ↗
actually there in a physical space it
2:23:14 ↗
will not be hard to find those people
2:23:16 ↗
and um I think this will bring a lot of
2:23:19 ↗
good to this community and I'm I'm glad
2:23:21 ↗
we're proceeding and so excited to be
2:23:23 ↗
seeing you know the real tangible, you
2:23:34 ↗
>> thank you. Um, I am in support of this.
2:23:40 ↗
defin my only concerns are using the
2:23:44 ↗
affordable housing funding um, for this.
2:23:47 ↗
And so, yes, I think it's good that we
2:23:55 ↗
intention is for the $3 million to be
2:23:59 ↗
reimbursed to the affordable housing
2:24:03 ↗
um account um that we have. I think that
2:24:06 ↗
still means that we have a fair amount
2:24:08 ↗
of affordable housing funds going into
2:24:12 ↗
this project. And while I think there
2:24:14 ↗
are crossovers and it certainly serves
2:24:22 ↗
I am always concerned and I guess this
2:24:25 ↗
is just a projection out to um what we
2:24:38 ↗
restricted funds for anything other than
2:24:41 ↗
affordable housing capital projects. Um
2:24:44 ↗
this is a capital project and so it has
2:24:56 ↗
housing um is something that we need to
2:25:06 ↗
somewhat comfortable with that source of
2:25:13 ↗
but man, if there is any way that our
2:25:15 ↗
general fund can reimburse the rest of
2:25:19 ↗
that affordable housing funding, I think
2:25:21 ↗
it's something that we should consider
2:25:24 ↗
um as we look at the costs and how we
2:25:27 ↗
want to stretch that very important um
2:25:31 ↗
set of dollars because if we had not
2:25:33 ↗
adopted that, that money would be going
2:25:35 ↗
to King County and that money would be
2:25:38 ↗
used to build actual affordable housing
2:25:43 ↗
um to serve a a population where we do
2:25:48 ↗
not have very much funding at all. So
2:25:51 ↗
that would be my only ask as we consider
2:25:54 ↗
this as a council in the future if there
2:25:56 ↗
is any way to reimburse that fund. I
2:25:58 ↗
think that is something that we should
2:26:04 ↗
Um, I think one of the more difficult
2:26:06 ↗
things at my day job is if someone if
2:26:08 ↗
I'm doing case work and someone you know
2:26:09 ↗
asks like where can I get services and
2:26:11 ↗
you know if they're local in Isiqua
2:26:13 ↗
sometimes I might have to point them out
2:26:16 ↗
services regional partners right but I'm
2:26:19 ↗
so excited for the ability and I know
2:26:21 ↗
it's still a few years down the road and
2:26:22 ↗
we still don't have people lined up
2:26:24 ↗
quite yet but I'm um very excited for
2:26:27 ↗
the prospect of having something right
2:26:29 ↗
here that uh the community council's
2:26:31 ↗
past have been working on for a decade
2:26:37 ↗
just the ripples of what that will mean
2:26:38 ↗
outward for everyone. Um very excited
2:26:41 ↗
for that. Uh I think we have the great
2:26:45 ↗
mentioned with the parks bond of how uh
2:26:48 ↗
the strategic plan and the parks bond
2:26:50 ↗
set the backbone for what we're going
2:26:52 ↗
out for with the parks bond. And uh I
2:26:55 ↗
think it's very identified in the human
2:26:57 ↗
services strategic plan of again and
2:26:59 ↗
again it's identified as um we have no
2:27:02 ↗
adult behavioral health facilities. And
2:27:04 ↗
so I am very excited for the future of
2:27:10 ↗
>> Great. Um well first of all I want to
2:27:13 ↗
say I'm very excited to support this
2:27:15 ↗
motion tonight. I know it's been a very
2:27:17 ↗
very long road and I want to give um
2:27:19 ↗
Deputy City Administrator Andrea Leonard
2:27:24 ↗
project for the better part of a decade
2:27:26 ↗
as you know we work through all this
2:27:28 ↗
stuff and I mean it almost feels unreal
2:27:30 ↗
that we're going to be able to attend
2:27:31 ↗
the groundbreaking of this next month.
2:27:33 ↗
So I'm very very excited for that. Um
2:27:36 ↗
it's also equally exciting to see the
2:27:41 ↗
approach the groundbreaking. So you know
2:27:42 ↗
having identified like actual people who
2:27:44 ↗
are interested in this space I think is
2:27:49 ↗
source piece. So the account that this
2:27:51 ↗
is coming out of, I just want to know
2:27:53 ↗
it's a special 0.1% sales tax that is
2:27:56 ↗
authorized, you know, we have this under
2:27:58 ↗
state law and it's housing and related
2:28:02 ↗
services is the na is the actual name of
2:28:05 ↗
it in the state law and um so you know I
2:28:10 ↗
I do think that this is very much a
2:28:14 ↗
constructing you know behavioral health
2:28:15 ↗
or you know low-income health or dental
2:28:18 ↗
facility, which I do think is critically
2:28:19 ↗
important and something we should be
2:28:21 ↗
supporting as a city government. Um, you
2:28:24 ↗
know, in terms of this benefit that it
2:28:26 ↗
provides to our community. So, I am
2:28:28 ↗
comfortable with using this funding in
2:28:30 ↗
this way. But that said, I do think we
2:28:32 ↗
need to figure out other ways to use
2:28:34 ↗
these capital dollars and deploy them
2:28:36 ↗
out in the community. Just, you know,
2:28:37 ↗
given the rate of inflation, the longer
2:28:39 ↗
we sit on this money, you know, the less
2:28:41 ↗
and less it becomes worth. So, I think
2:28:42 ↗
we need to, you know, this is one of the
2:28:44 ↗
biggest things that we're going to be
2:28:45 ↗
spending this money on, but we need to
2:28:47 ↗
do more to figure out, you know, with
2:28:48 ↗
the remaining millions that we have in
2:28:50 ↗
this account, how can we put that money
2:28:52 ↗
to work in our community? Um, so that
2:28:54 ↗
said, I'm very excited to be supporting
2:29:06 ↗
there's no further discussion. We had a
2:29:08 ↗
motion by Council President Mart. I
2:29:11 ↗
asked everyone to memorize when it was
2:29:12 ↗
read. That is the motion we will be
2:29:14 ↗
voting on. Yes, it is on. As Cer Walsh
2:29:16 ↗
said, is it on the screen in front of
2:29:18 ↗
you? All those in favor, please say I.
2:29:25 ↗
And that passes unanimously. And I would
2:29:28 ↗
add, when I joined the council back in
2:29:30 ↗
2009, I filled the retiring seat of John
2:29:33 ↗
Writtenhouse, who was the one who had
2:29:34 ↗
put the first million dollars towards
2:29:36 ↗
this project many moons ago. And so it's
2:29:38 ↗
exciting to see that come full circle
2:29:40 ↗
and knowing that we have Dan and Andrea
2:29:42 ↗
here and their last days. I think these
2:29:54 ↗
And now we'll move to our last agenda
2:29:56 ↗
item. I realize as mayor predicting the
2:29:59 ↗
end of a council meeting is a fool's
2:30:01 ↗
errand because I don't really talk. You
2:30:04 ↗
guys control the talking. I'm not going
2:30:06 ↗
to bet against people who have more
2:30:07 ↗
control over the outcome on the playing
2:30:09 ↗
field ever again. Uh, agenda bill 9207,
2:30:13 ↗
building investments amendments, three
2:30:15 ↗
stepbacks, and outdoor amenity space,
2:30:18 ↗
which ironically is relevant because
2:30:20 ↗
this conversation came up because King
2:30:23 ↗
County Housing Authority informed us of
2:30:24 ↗
things in our own code that we might
2:30:26 ↗
need to think about adjusting and we
2:30:33 ↗
>> Good evening, everybody. Um, let me
2:30:40 ↗
um, due to lateness of the hour, I'm
2:30:42 ↗
just going to breeze through it really
2:30:44 ↗
quickly, but feel free to pause and if
2:30:45 ↗
you have questions along the way. Um, so
2:30:48 ↗
this is um, something that we came to
2:30:51 ↗
you all um, to establish our work plan
2:30:54 ↗
for the year or couple of years um, and
2:30:59 ↗
investment in central Isiqua. Um and let
2:31:03 ↗
me see if I can um so the purpose of the
2:31:06 ↗
meeting tonight is um to look at the top
2:31:10 ↗
the first two amendments that have gone
2:31:12 ↗
through the process out of the 17 that
2:31:17 ↗
and those are uh community open space
2:31:20 ↗
and stepbacks. Um so you in terms of the
2:31:25 ↗
work plan it was the council retreat the
2:31:28 ↗
homebuilders staff and the whiteboard
2:31:30 ↗
that led to the 17 that we are currently
2:31:33 ↗
working on. Uh so out of this the top
2:31:36 ↗
two are in front of you tonight. Uh they
2:31:39 ↗
have gone through three touches with
2:31:41 ↗
planning and policy commission. They
2:31:45 ↗
planning development and environment
2:31:47 ↗
committee vetted them out and um now
2:31:50 ↗
they're in front of you uh for action.
2:31:53 ↗
Um so the first one step backs um also
2:31:57 ↗
part of your package is uh the goals and
2:32:00 ↗
outcomes and objectives uh that planning
2:32:02 ↗
development and environment committee
2:32:04 ↗
worked on for all 17 that will become
2:32:07 ↗
sort of the the working um north arrow
2:32:12 ↗
commission and community conversations
2:32:14 ↗
to guide uh these um amendments. Um this
2:32:18 ↗
work happened at the council level at
2:32:22 ↗
already started the work on the first
2:32:24 ↗
two with planning and policy commission.
2:32:26 ↗
So for the stepbacks uh you know we
2:32:29 ↗
heard there were higher construction
2:32:30 ↗
costs alignment issues um moisture risks
2:32:34 ↗
uh and so on. Uh there's also a house
2:32:37 ↗
bill that preempts stepbacks for uh all
2:32:40 ↗
of these mass timber uh type of things.
2:32:43 ↗
Um and then the goal here was to reduce
2:32:47 ↗
multiple stepbacks um as long as the
2:32:49 ↗
architectural interest uh goals were
2:32:52 ↗
met. Uh and also there was discussion
2:32:55 ↗
about aligning the requirements of of
2:32:58 ↗
stepbacks in the context of other design
2:33:00 ↗
options. Um so some possible outcomes
2:33:06 ↗
development and environment committee
2:33:08 ↗
was eliminating multiple stepbacks um
2:33:11 ↗
not having them along natural context
2:33:13 ↗
areas and also providing flexibility um
2:33:17 ↗
for the location. Um and so the proposed
2:33:21 ↗
amendments do three things here. They
2:33:23 ↗
allow flexibility in the placement of
2:33:26 ↗
upper level stepbacks along the streets.
2:33:31 ↗
natural environment and they also um um
2:33:37 ↗
uh set up really a five five you know
2:33:40 ↗
dimensions of what the stepbacks uh
2:33:42 ↗
really are. Um so here in strikeout so
2:33:46 ↗
along the natural areas you're no longer
2:33:48 ↗
required to have stepback requirements.
2:33:50 ↗
Um along the um public streets you're
2:33:56 ↗
choose where you want to put it. Uh as
2:33:59 ↗
low as the base of uh floor two up to
2:34:02 ↗
the base of floor six, five feet in
2:34:04 ↗
depth. Um and then we have this um five
2:34:10 ↗
different styles that you can choose
2:34:11 ↗
your um op your style of architectural
2:34:14 ↗
style in central Eiquay and one of them
2:34:16 ↗
is northwest contemporary style which
2:34:18 ↗
most of the folks choose this. Um we
2:34:20 ↗
also aligned these requirements in this
2:34:23 ↗
particular style with the remainder of
2:34:25 ↗
the the code which again is you have the
2:34:28 ↗
flexibility from floor two to floor six.
2:34:34 ↗
requirements for design. I'm not going
2:34:35 ↗
to get into that. That's not in front of
2:34:37 ↗
you today. Um for natural environments
2:34:40 ↗
there are also some other requirements
2:34:44 ↗
orientation towards natural environment.
2:34:47 ↗
Um that's not in front of you today. Uh
2:34:53 ↗
requirements. Uh really the issue here
2:34:56 ↗
we heard from the builders was um our
2:35:00 ↗
balconies. Um our requirements were
2:35:03 ↗
excessive. Um and they also sort of
2:35:06 ↗
referenced the water penetration issues
2:35:08 ↗
when they put it on every balcony a
2:35:10 ↗
balcony on every unit. Uh so the goal
2:35:13 ↗
was to balance the outdoor amenity space
2:35:15 ↗
with development feasibility um and also
2:35:17 ↗
to find a way to provide residents with
2:35:19 ↗
meaningful outdoor amenity space while
2:35:21 ↗
allowing development. So in this case uh
2:35:24 ↗
what we've done uh in or what's in front
2:35:28 ↗
of you for um action tonight is the
2:35:31 ↗
private uh balcony spaces have been
2:35:33 ↗
reduced. Uh we've streamlined the code
2:35:36 ↗
to eliminate the need for deviations. So
2:35:38 ↗
it's an outright uh permitted reduction.
2:35:42 ↗
And also while we were looking at this
2:35:45 ↗
um there previous state law changes
2:35:47 ↗
happened and if there's converting an
2:35:49 ↗
existing office building uh to um a a
2:35:53 ↗
residential housing projects, there's a
2:35:55 ↗
lot of flexibility built into it. But
2:36:00 ↗
amenity spaces. And if you have a glass
2:36:03 ↗
clad building, you're not going to take
2:36:05 ↗
out the glass and put um um balconies.
2:36:09 ↗
So, um so we built in some flexibility
2:36:12 ↗
for those kind of conversions as well.
2:36:14 ↗
Um and so again, I think we I kind of
2:36:22 ↗
it's going from 50% to 30% of the the
2:36:25 ↗
units have to have balconies. You no
2:36:29 ↗
um and it's a permitted outright um
2:36:32 ↗
requirement there. This table kind of
2:36:36 ↗
process, planning and policy commission
2:36:37 ↗
also looked at really smaller scale
2:36:40 ↗
projects. So we used to say anything up
2:36:42 ↗
to five unit, you know, five plexes
2:36:45 ↗
don't have to have this outdoor space.
2:36:47 ↗
They increased that to nine units. So
2:36:51 ↗
projects that are up to nine units up to
2:36:55 ↗
that you don't have to have um um uh
2:36:59 ↗
common outdoor spaces that those only
2:37:01 ↗
get triggered at 10 or above. Um and
2:37:05 ↗
they the the 50% is now only for 30%. Uh
2:37:09 ↗
it's no longer a deviation. And then
2:37:15 ↗
converting a commercial uh building to a
2:37:21 ↗
provide some common amenity space to the
2:37:23 ↗
maximum extent feasible. If there is
2:37:25 ↗
room around the site, you would add it,
2:37:27 ↗
but not to the extent that the code
2:37:32 ↗
summary of what's in front of you. If
2:37:34 ↗
the if you adopt these changes tonight,
2:37:38 ↗
publication. Uh, we the administration's
2:37:41 ↗
recommendation is that you approve these
2:37:46 ↗
>> Council member Walsh, you're the
2:37:47 ↗
committee chair. Did you want to make
2:37:49 ↗
>> Yeah. Um, so PTE reviewed these two
2:37:53 ↗
proposed changes to the land use code.
2:37:58 ↗
regarding the outdoor amenity areas. We
2:38:01 ↗
unanimously agreed to the changes that
2:38:03 ↗
PPC had recommended and that staff had
2:38:05 ↗
worked up which created more options for
2:38:08 ↗
um private spaces without reducing the
2:38:10 ↗
overall um required outdoor space. Um
2:38:24 ↗
you know, outside of our motion that we
2:38:26 ↗
move forward toward a menu of options
2:38:29 ↗
for design standards. And so that was
2:38:32 ↗
kind of a a change in the approach from
2:38:43 ↗
stepbacks should be part of a group of
2:38:46 ↗
things much like we do with um some of
2:38:49 ↗
our other sustainability things where we
2:38:51 ↗
give a menu of options and um choices
2:38:53 ↗
can be made there. So after that set of
2:38:57 ↗
feedback, knowing that this had come
2:39:02 ↗
um and was a change in improvement to
2:39:05 ↗
what we currently have in our land use
2:39:09 ↗
agreed that we should move forward with
2:39:11 ↗
these stepback adjustments while the
2:39:14 ↗
staff works on that menu of options to
2:39:16 ↗
be presented to us um at a later time.
2:39:18 ↗
Well, one member thought it would be
2:39:22 ↗
stepback requirements in the interim.
2:39:26 ↗
disagreement there on how we approach
2:39:33 ↗
two at least two out of three members um
2:39:40 ↗
>> Council member Gar. Um, so we had some
2:39:45 ↗
responded, you know, I was curious about
2:39:47 ↗
comparisons to other nearby uh, cities
2:39:50 ↗
that we're trying to either emulate or
2:39:53 ↗
do better than and stuff like that. And
2:39:54 ↗
you sent a list of some of them and, you
2:39:56 ↗
know, so like both had no stepbacks, you
2:39:58 ↗
know, Bellingham has 15 ft starting at
2:40:01 ↗
the fourth floor, Edmonds 5 ft deep at
2:40:06 ↗
variations here. It's not necessarily
2:40:07 ↗
all the areas that maybe we want to
2:40:09 ↗
consider. So are there any that does
2:40:12 ↗
this mirror any other city that's doing
2:40:15 ↗
it in this way that we're proposing in
2:40:16 ↗
the changes here or is that still going
2:40:19 ↗
to also be isqua specific? Um I'm just
2:40:22 ↗
kind of curious in terms of how we're
2:40:23 ↗
modeling this you know if we're trying
2:40:26 ↗
development is that what we're doing or
2:40:27 ↗
is this something we're coming up with
2:40:30 ↗
>> Sure. Um you know um I think we always
2:40:33 ↗
hear comparison between Kirkland and
2:40:35 ↗
Redmond. So, we looked at those um two
2:40:38 ↗
cities um and those are included in your
2:40:41 ↗
um chart there. Redmond has some of of a
2:40:44 ↗
similar thing that but they have a much
2:40:46 ↗
deeper step back. They require 20. So,
2:40:49 ↗
we're requiring only 5 ft. Um Kirkland,
2:40:55 ↗
downtown has a lot of stepbacks of what
2:40:57 ↗
actually got built there. Um and but
2:41:00 ↗
they are also sort of you know so so
2:41:03 ↗
we've gone beyond what Kirkland and
2:41:05 ↗
Redmond require already. So it's it's
2:41:08 ↗
not that we're um more our requirements
2:41:13 ↗
communities if if you're trying to just
2:41:15 ↗
compare. But each each community has
2:41:18 ↗
different conversations. Um Redmond is a
2:41:21 ↗
little bit similar to us because they
2:41:22 ↗
have high water table. They are also
2:41:24 ↗
providing drinking water supply. So they
2:41:26 ↗
have fewer um um you know underground
2:41:30 ↗
parking requirements. So the look and
2:41:33 ↗
feel of those buildings is a little bit
2:41:35 ↗
like ours because you get you know seven
2:41:38 ↗
stories tall building versus uh Kirkland
2:41:41 ↗
where they have been able to get some of
2:41:43 ↗
the underground parking in in their
2:41:55 ↗
perfect like this is what we cop you
2:41:57 ↗
know this is another city. They're a
2:41:59 ↗
little bit all over the place but we
2:42:01 ↗
feel as this went through it it's a good
2:42:03 ↗
it's striking a good balance between um
2:42:07 ↗
still requiring a little bit of a step
2:42:09 ↗
back but giving that flexibility and and
2:42:13 ↗
building. Um so just focusing on the
2:42:16 ↗
public realm along the street. So like
2:42:18 ↗
if you could so like when you bring up
2:42:20 ↗
in terms of how we are you know you're
2:42:22 ↗
talking about that currently you'd say
2:42:24 ↗
we have a higher requirement than like
2:42:26 ↗
Redmond and then this would put us equal
2:42:31 ↗
>> Uh but but the current version would be
2:42:37 ↗
difficult for developers than their
2:42:39 ↗
current ones. You know I see these and I
2:42:41 ↗
see still a lot of like 10 ft deep and
2:42:43 ↗
these have things like these look to me
2:42:46 ↗
currently have. And so that's what I'm
2:42:48 ↗
understand is is our current system
2:42:51 ↗
really that different or more difficult
2:42:54 ↗
than similar cities is what I'm trying
2:42:57 ↗
>> We heard uh that stepbacks are um an an
2:43:01 ↗
issue for the builders. I mean that came
2:43:05 ↗
conversation and we do believe that
2:43:07 ↗
there is uh you know we heard from the
2:43:09 ↗
to developers they are here. I think the
2:43:14 ↗
agreement uh to forgo or or allow that
2:43:18 ↗
same flexibility that's now in the code
2:43:23 ↗
developer. Um so there's some truth to
2:43:28 ↗
construction costs go up um because of
2:43:30 ↗
the staggering that the size of the
2:43:32 ↗
beams goes up, labor costs are more
2:43:35 ↗
stacking of plumbing and and all of
2:43:37 ↗
those things um are are important. Um so
2:43:43 ↗
yes our current standards to answer your
2:43:50 ↗
uh that require multiple stepbacks and
2:43:52 ↗
things like that. um where what's in
2:43:55 ↗
front of you has gone through a process
2:43:57 ↗
that uh planning and policy commission
2:43:59 ↗
heard from the community, looked at
2:44:01 ↗
what's there, compared it with other
2:44:03 ↗
jurisdictions and and what we've brought
2:44:05 ↗
forth is their recommendation which is
2:44:12 ↗
context, only requiring it along public
2:44:14 ↗
streets, not having multiple stepbacks,
2:44:16 ↗
providing flexibility, and limiting the
2:44:19 ↗
depth to 5T. It can be more, but from a
2:44:22 ↗
city's regulation standpoint, that's the
2:44:28 ↗
>> Yeah. And I um to respond to Council
2:44:31 ↗
Member Adair. Hopefully that's okay. Um
2:44:34 ↗
I think you know, you'd mentioned this
2:44:36 ↗
kind of came in response to requests
2:44:37 ↗
from the um from King County Housing
2:44:39 ↗
Authority. So last year, you know, when
2:44:41 ↗
they were in the design process, they
2:44:42 ↗
came to us and were like, "Hey, the step
2:44:44 ↗
back requirement you have basically we
2:44:45 ↗
were saying it's required at the fifth
2:44:47 ↗
floor." So that's in the part that's a
2:44:49 ↗
wood structure. So normally, you know,
2:44:51 ↗
with a five-story building, you can like
2:44:53 ↗
stack all of them and have all the wood
2:44:54 ↗
beams, you know, going up and down. But
2:44:56 ↗
then if you had it at the fifth floor,
2:44:57 ↗
that would be in the middle of where the
2:44:58 ↗
wood is. So because it's an eight story
2:45:01 ↗
concrete, five floors of wood, and they
2:45:03 ↗
said it would add it would cost $1.2
2:45:05 ↗
million to do this. Um, and you know,
2:45:08 ↗
given that it's like a publicly funded
2:45:10 ↗
housing project, we felt like it was and
2:45:17 ↗
concrete to wood at the third floor. And
2:45:19 ↗
actually in the renderings, the one with
2:45:21 ↗
the third floor step back looked better
2:45:23 ↗
than the one with the fifth floor step
2:45:24 ↗
back. And I I showed the pictures, the
2:45:28 ↗
friends to get their take on the, you
2:45:30 ↗
know, relative aesthetics. And so they,
2:45:32 ↗
you know, they all agreed. Um, so I
2:45:38 ↗
you know, in my opinion, based on the
2:45:40 ↗
one project that we've seen, actually
2:45:45 ↗
and also reduces costs cuz I think there
2:45:48 ↗
is an argument to be made that it's
2:45:51 ↗
important to have things that look nice.
2:45:53 ↗
You know, people want to look at nice
2:45:54 ↗
things. But also is it like is having a
2:45:57 ↗
step back that costs 1.2 million really
2:45:59 ↗
the best aesthetic investment if we're
2:46:01 ↗
talking $1.2 million. Like how many
2:46:03 ↗
murals could we put in our city for $1.2
2:46:05 ↗
million? And would that actually make
2:46:11 ↗
murals, landscaping, all that kind of
2:46:13 ↗
stuff, you know, just if we're thinking
2:46:15 ↗
about the relative cost of different
2:46:17 ↗
aesthetic improvements. So, that's my
2:46:19 ↗
>> feel potential mural amendment coming. I
2:46:21 ↗
like it. Uh, Council Member Nichols,
2:46:24 ↗
>> uh, quickly on the range of options that
2:46:26 ↗
were considered, uh, did PPC consider an
2:46:28 ↗
option like both that has no step back
2:46:33 ↗
um you know they my um Kristen Leon
2:46:36 ↗
who's not here uh explored all different
2:46:40 ↗
options with them. I don't specifically
2:46:45 ↗
definitely talked about it along the
2:46:47 ↗
natural context areas to eliminate that.
2:46:49 ↗
That's where they ended up uh with the
2:46:52 ↗
natural context because the code itself
2:46:54 ↗
currently requires that same um step
2:46:57 ↗
back along natural context but they
2:46:58 ↗
didn't they felt along the public realm
2:47:00 ↗
along public street we still needed to
2:47:03 ↗
>> So the the this I want to pick on this
2:47:05 ↗
because this is going to be the crux of
2:47:06 ↗
my comments in a few moments when you
2:47:08 ↗
say they that all options were explored.
2:47:11 ↗
Um I want to correct my understanding
2:47:13 ↗
but I I didn't see PPC discussing that.
2:47:16 ↗
So I wanted to see if that was in fact
2:47:18 ↗
the case to remove stepback requirements
2:47:22 ↗
>> You know, I'll have to look at the the
2:47:23 ↗
actual questions that were posed to
2:47:25 ↗
them. Um we were asking them policy
2:47:27 ↗
questions along more broadly. So it
2:47:31 ↗
didn't come we didn't at staff level if
2:47:34 ↗
you're asking if we said no stepbacks
2:47:35 ↗
should be required along uh the public
2:47:47 ↗
Okay. Not seeing any other questions
2:47:57 ↗
>> Thank you. I move to adopt ordinance
2:48:00 ↗
number 3143 amending chapters 18.6000,
2:48:09 ↗
of the Isqua Municipal Code to allow
2:48:11 ↗
flexibility for upper level stepbacks
2:48:14 ↗
and adopt ordinance number 3144 amending
2:48:22 ↗
community amenity spaces of the Isqua
2:48:24 ↗
Municipal Code to reduce the amount of
2:48:28 ↗
multifamily residential developments.
2:48:32 ↗
>> Okay. Pay attention to what council
2:48:34 ↗
member Walsh just said. I'm once again
2:48:36 ↗
not going to repeat that. Uh, Council
2:48:40 ↗
>> Okay, I'm going to go on for a little
2:48:41 ↗
bit, so apologies in advance. Um, I know
2:48:44 ↗
it's late, but uh, this is this is the
2:48:46 ↗
first one of these that we're talking
2:48:47 ↗
about, and I think it's really important
2:48:49 ↗
that we get the process for this right.
2:48:52 ↗
Um, so I'm going to suggest that we vote
2:48:57 ↗
ordinance number 3143, so stepbacks, uh,
2:49:00 ↗
and send it back to either PPC or PDE.
2:49:04 ↗
does I don't think it matters a lot uh
2:49:07 ↗
investigate um at our PD committee on
2:49:10 ↗
the second I think it's fair to say but
2:49:12 ↗
please chime in after that all three of
2:49:14 ↗
us were aligned that one we wanted to
2:49:16 ↗
see stepback requirements reduced from
2:49:21 ↗
weren't fully satisfied with the options
2:49:22 ↗
that we were presented um I think we
2:49:25 ↗
differed primarily on timing of when and
2:49:27 ↗
how to address that um and whether we
2:49:29 ↗
should have this as a kind of an interim
2:49:31 ↗
set of rules on this topic while we wait
2:49:33 ↗
for it to become back to come back to
2:49:37 ↗
architectural standards. Um but please
2:49:39 ↗
correct me in a moment if I'm if I'm
2:49:43 ↗
Turning back the clock a little bit um
2:49:46 ↗
just kind of zooming out and looking at
2:49:48 ↗
what we're doing overall. On Mar on our
2:49:50 ↗
March 9th meeting when we endorsed this
2:49:52 ↗
housing work plan as a whole, Council
2:49:54 ↗
President Mart said something I think
2:49:56 ↗
we've also all agreed should guide our
2:49:58 ↗
work. Um, and he spoke about the big
2:50:00 ↗
knobs on the stereo, and I I think I'm
2:50:02 ↗
quoting him correctly there, that we are
2:50:04 ↗
trying to tune and that we should run
2:50:06 ↗
them through their full range rather
2:50:08 ↗
than picking two points on the dial and
2:50:10 ↗
calling it done. Uh, I really agree with
2:50:12 ↗
that and I I agreed then and I agree
2:50:14 ↗
now, but that's not quite what happened
2:50:16 ↗
here. And I think it's because this is
2:50:17 ↗
the first set of things we were looking
2:50:19 ↗
at and that that guidance wasn't fully
2:50:21 ↗
understood because we didn't get that
2:50:23 ↗
full range. Um, we got some flexibility
2:50:26 ↗
that was added. That's great. uh but it
2:50:28 ↗
does still leave substantial stepback
2:50:34 ↗
requested but the magnitudes we wanted
2:50:39 ↗
Um and again if you'll grant me a little
2:50:41 ↗
more time to go on a little historical
2:50:43 ↗
interlude here because I think it's
2:50:44 ↗
important for the context um of why this
2:50:48 ↗
topic. So my homework on where stepbacks
2:50:51 ↗
came from leaves me really concerned
2:50:55 ↗
stubbornness on this topic. The first
2:50:58 ↗
time stepbacks appear in our transcript
2:51:00 ↗
is a 2017 development commission meeting
2:51:04 ↗
comments in it. One commissioner pressed
2:51:06 ↗
the consultant who was proposing these
2:51:08 ↗
new rules on exactly this risk that I'm
2:51:10 ↗
worried about about costs um that I I
2:51:12 ↗
believe we've seen materialize. Um he
2:51:15 ↗
said that design standards like these
2:51:16 ↗
will aggregate in aggregate will price
2:51:19 ↗
people out um and that a place like ours
2:51:21 ↗
will become quote very self- selecting
2:51:24 ↗
and quote a boutiquey place. Um the
2:51:27 ↗
consultant's answer to that was that
2:51:29 ↗
affordability was quote out of scope.
2:51:33 ↗
This was the answer in this commission
2:51:35 ↗
commission was first concept was first
2:51:37 ↗
brought up. Affordability was declared
2:51:41 ↗
affordability should ever be declared
2:51:42 ↗
out of scope. Um, and that punt on this
2:51:45 ↗
topic has lasted a decade and it's in
2:51:47 ↗
front of us tonight. And I think we
2:51:48 ↗
really owe it to our residents to get
2:51:53 ↗
Deputy Council President Jiang raised
2:51:55 ↗
one of the examples of the cost of this
2:51:56 ↗
um $1.2 million. And one example we had,
2:51:59 ↗
I've also talked to several home local
2:52:01 ↗
home builders about what this means for
2:52:02 ↗
people who actually live in these units,
2:52:04 ↗
what the rent increase would be for them
2:52:06 ↗
due to this particular requirement as
2:52:08 ↗
we've got it. It is hard to calculate
2:52:10 ↗
precisely. There's there's a lot of
2:52:11 ↗
market dynamics at play. I'm not going
2:52:12 ↗
to pretend these are exact numbers, but
2:52:14 ↗
their estimates landed at somewhere
2:52:16 ↗
between 20 to $40 per unit per month for
2:52:18 ↗
a step back um for a single regulation
2:52:22 ↗
um with benefits that are at at that are
2:52:25 ↗
arguably questionable. Um and I think
2:52:27 ↗
that's a lot to ask. Um it's five to 10
2:52:29 ↗
times more than what we just asked, what
2:52:31 ↗
we're going to likely ask residents to
2:52:35 ↗
tremendous benefits associated with it.
2:52:37 ↗
Um, I'm also just from a policy and good
2:52:40 ↗
government's perspective concerned about
2:52:43 ↗
regulations. If we vote yes tonight, but
2:52:45 ↗
we as a as a a council plan to revisit
2:52:48 ↗
this in a few months under architectural
2:52:50 ↗
standards, I think that back and forth
2:52:52 ↗
could actually delay housing because
2:52:54 ↗
anyone watching to see where we what
2:52:56 ↗
we're doing is going to see a moving
2:52:58 ↗
target and there's nothing worse for
2:52:59 ↗
business than in than uncertainty. So,
2:53:02 ↗
I'm a no. Um, thank you for letting me
2:53:04 ↗
ramble on that for a few moments. Um,
2:53:06 ↗
and I would like to see this sent back
2:53:08 ↗
to PPC or PTE. I think either could be
2:53:12 ↗
fine with a full review where we turn
2:53:14 ↗
the knobs all the way up and down and
2:53:18 ↗
>> Okay. And before Council Walsh, I just
2:53:21 ↗
want to I there's a question for Minnie
2:53:24 ↗
or our city administrator, but can the
2:53:29 ↗
council committees can also recommend
2:53:34 ↗
>> Correct. Yeah. The process is planning
2:53:37 ↗
recommendation, planning and development
2:53:41 ↗
recommendation. You as a body are the
2:53:43 ↗
only ones that can actually change the
2:53:53 ↗
Director Dollywal, can you talk about I
2:53:56 ↗
I think the feedback from PD was pretty
2:54:00 ↗
clear beyond this interim period, but
2:54:03 ↗
pretty clear that we wanted to look at a
2:54:07 ↗
menu of design options that would create
2:54:12 ↗
um variability in our buildings and
2:54:15 ↗
other things so that we don't get, you
2:54:17 ↗
know, flat buildings with just you know
2:54:20 ↗
windows or um flat areas. What is the
2:54:25 ↗
timeline or the sense of when that is
2:54:28 ↗
going to come through PPC all the way to
2:54:30 ↗
council? Um so what time period are we
2:54:33 ↗
looking at between potential adoption of
2:54:45 ↗
>> Yeah. So the architectural uh standards
2:54:47 ↗
discussion is quarter 4 of 2026. So it's
2:54:51 ↗
a matter of you know next 6 months um to
2:54:55 ↗
get that in in place and and in terms of
2:54:59 ↗
these two amendments these were really
2:55:02 ↗
came from the builder community and so
2:55:04 ↗
in terms of sending the message that you
2:55:06 ↗
know uh that you are interested in m
2:55:09 ↗
taking action taking care of this uh
2:55:12 ↗
early and that's how because these were
2:55:13 ↗
easy to process so they got put on the
2:55:16 ↗
top uh line because we could just bring
2:55:18 ↗
that forward even though they were easy
2:55:20 ↗
to uh to process. But if you look at the
2:55:22 ↗
three packets for planning and policy
2:55:23 ↗
commission, I think I sent you one of
2:55:25 ↗
them. Um, there was a fair amount of
2:55:27 ↗
discussion with them. I mean, we showed
2:55:29 ↗
them a lot of samples. I do have those
2:55:31 ↗
pictures if you want me to pull those up
2:55:33 ↗
uh of what a good design can mean um in
2:55:37 ↗
terms of uh getting this in place. So if
2:55:40 ↗
you adopt this tonight and then when we
2:55:44 ↗
are having a full in-depth conversation
2:55:46 ↗
about the total menu of choices for
2:55:48 ↗
design later this year um we will have
2:55:53 ↗
that policy question with planning and
2:55:54 ↗
policy commission. How does the step
2:55:56 ↗
back fit fit in with the other other
2:55:58 ↗
pieces? And and if this is, you know,
2:56:01 ↗
there's a there's a balance between a
2:56:03 ↗
predictability of telling people what
2:56:05 ↗
the design should be or leaving it too
2:56:07 ↗
broad that, you know, it'll be vetted
2:56:10 ↗
out with the development commission at a
2:56:12 ↗
hearing. But but so so there's always
2:56:15 ↗
that balance of predictability versus
2:56:17 ↗
too much flexibility. And sometimes the
2:56:19 ↗
developers have told us that it's better
2:56:21 ↗
for them to know upfront this is what
2:56:24 ↗
you want and they can incorporate it
2:56:26 ↗
into the designs than leaving it so
2:56:28 ↗
open-ended that they can't get an answer
2:56:30 ↗
to that question either. So um just just
2:56:34 ↗
as some additional background but I'm
2:56:35 ↗
happy to pull up some photos uh if you
2:56:43 ↗
I hear that you're saying that a set of
2:56:48 ↗
design menu options would come back to
2:56:51 ↗
us Q4, but you're also stating in the
2:56:56 ↗
same set of sentences that there is
2:57:02 ↗
options that maybe it provides either
2:57:14 ↗
conversation. So architectural, you
2:57:16 ↗
know, right now they are too hardwired.
2:57:18 ↗
There is not any flexibility of what you
2:57:20 ↗
can do. So as we have that conversation
2:57:23 ↗
with that number eight item on on the
2:57:25 ↗
list of 17 um what you know it can be
2:57:30 ↗
make it nice you know for for the sake
2:57:36 ↗
case that they teach in planning schools
2:57:38 ↗
that has Isiqua and Anderson case that
2:57:42 ↗
our our standards were too vague. Uh we
2:57:45 ↗
didn't really say what design standards
2:57:47 ↗
should be met. And so all along the
2:57:48 ↗
school of thought is that you actually
2:57:51 ↗
have design options that that you can
2:57:53 ↗
quantify that they're not so subjective.
2:57:56 ↗
So as we talk about that conversation,
2:57:58 ↗
yes, we'll talk about flexibility, but
2:58:02 ↗
something that isn't vague and arbitrary
2:58:06 ↗
>> Yeah. So if one of those options on a
2:58:09 ↗
menu of design options was stepbacks
2:58:11 ↗
with these requirements that we've we
2:58:14 ↗
are potentially adopting today, that
2:58:16 ↗
provides the certainty to a builder who
2:58:21 ↗
might want to look at that versus five
2:58:24 ↗
other options. and evaluate what they
2:58:27 ↗
think would be most appropriate for sure
2:58:31 ↗
>> Sure. So, you know, the ultimate goal is
2:58:34 ↗
you're trying to have modulation in a
2:58:36 ↗
building. So, it's not a complete um you
2:58:39 ↗
know, concrete jungle with no sort of
2:58:41 ↗
design sense. Um part of the the the
2:58:44 ↗
intent is to have a base, a middle, and
2:58:46 ↗
a top of the building. Um part of the
2:58:49 ↗
the intent is to have uh variety in
2:58:53 ↗
designs and and so on. Um, so yes, we'll
2:58:57 ↗
have all of that conversation as part of
2:59:06 ↗
>> Um, yeah. So, I'm I'm going to be honest
2:59:08 ↗
in that I'm very I'm actually still not
2:59:11 ↗
even fully sure how I want to vote on
2:59:13 ↗
this. Um, you know, I I hear uh Council
2:59:20 ↗
actually coming at it from a different
2:59:24 ↗
as uh willing to give up code as is,
2:59:27 ↗
considering the work that went into it.
2:59:29 ↗
I actually do like stepbacks. Um um my
2:59:32 ↗
time in LA saw a lot of development of
2:59:35 ↗
cities that did become these concrete
2:59:37 ↗
boxes that have been spoken of and just
2:59:41 ↗
identity. Things that were little towns
2:59:43 ↗
that just got wiped out because they
2:59:45 ↗
people just could build cheaply and
2:59:47 ↗
build whatever they wanted and it just
2:59:48 ↗
became places where yes, people lived
2:59:50 ↗
there, but it was not a town. It was not
2:59:51 ↗
a home. Um equally like the loss of
2:59:55 ↗
stepbacks can lead to things like only
2:59:58 ↗
mountains but no one else can and things
3:00:00 ↗
like that you know views become an issue
3:00:03 ↗
and as well as what the ground forth
3:00:05 ↗
feels like. So, like I'm not one that
3:00:06 ↗
would be, you know, if this said no step
3:00:08 ↗
backs, I would have a lot of concerns.
3:00:10 ↗
Um, the proposed requirements here, I'm
3:00:12 ↗
okay with like, you know, for example,
3:00:13 ↗
the TOD project is a great example. Like
3:00:16 ↗
it's not that there's no step back, they
3:00:17 ↗
just got to drop it down. That to me is
3:00:19 ↗
just fine, especially when coupled with
3:00:21 ↗
a thing of what they are bringing to the
3:00:23 ↗
community in exchange for those changes
3:00:27 ↗
absolutely great where you are bringing
3:00:29 ↗
more to the community and thus yes you
3:00:31 ↗
can get these uh deviations or whatever
3:00:34 ↗
may come to play and so I'm okay with
3:00:36 ↗
the flex that we still have a step back
3:00:38 ↗
but there's flexibility to it because
3:00:40 ↗
yeah if it's 1 million cheaper just to
3:00:41 ↗
put it on three than five that to me is
3:00:44 ↗
is just fine and makes sense let's do
3:00:45 ↗
it. Um, but I can say that I am, you
3:00:48 ↗
know, someone that is, you know, I want
3:00:53 ↗
development moving, which, you know, I
3:00:55 ↗
brought up in my email what, you know,
3:00:56 ↗
what they've said, these larger issues,
3:00:58 ↗
you know, the paved buffers and things
3:01:00 ↗
like that. Those feel to me like the
3:01:01 ↗
real concrete barriers to development
3:01:04 ↗
here and individual line item codes are
3:01:08 ↗
doesn't feel that different to me. So,
3:01:11 ↗
you know, where I'm coming at right now
3:01:12 ↗
is that, you know, I I I'm, you know,
3:01:18 ↗
because we can without it really seeing
3:01:20 ↗
what the tangible benefit is. Uh though
3:01:25 ↗
strong aversion to and so likely would
3:01:28 ↗
support these at the moment, but I can
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Okay. I'm getting my sequence. I know
3:01:35 ↗
Council Member Nichols and then Deputy
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President Jen and then Council President
3:01:39 ↗
Marks. Is that right? Okay, I'll wait
3:01:45 ↗
>> Great. Um, yeah. So, as far as this
3:01:48 ↗
specific amendment goes, I think it's
3:01:50 ↗
fine. I think, you know, the way that
3:01:53 ↗
we've come to this based on the feedback
3:01:55 ↗
from KCHA and kind of seeing the actual
3:01:57 ↗
cost and impact of it, I think it makes
3:01:59 ↗
a lot of sense to kind of do this as an
3:02:01 ↗
interim stop gap. in terms of you know
3:02:06 ↗
actually the reason I so this idea was
3:02:12 ↗
architecture firm in Seattle who had
3:02:15 ↗
approach to design standards um called
3:02:17 ↗
Neiman Taber and I'm not I'm not going
3:02:18 ↗
to read the whole thing but you know
3:02:20 ↗
they have a few examples of and these
3:02:23 ↗
are like very you know objective things
3:02:27 ↗
example, they say breaker stone masonry,
3:02:29 ↗
you can get five points for doing that.
3:02:31 ↗
You know, wood siding with the factory
3:02:33 ↗
finish or other pre-treatment to enhance
3:02:34 ↗
aesthetics and durability, two points.
3:02:36 ↗
Um, you know, there's a very, very long
3:02:44 ↗
visible to the public, one point. This
3:02:46 ↗
could be, you know, the murals. And this
3:02:50 ↗
basically gives builders the options to
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pick, you know, what makes the most
3:02:54 ↗
sense for your site. and you would have
3:02:55 ↗
to get a certain amount of points and do
3:02:57 ↗
whatever makes the most sense to you
3:03:00 ↗
know provide aesthetic value that people
3:03:02 ↗
like. Um, one thing that I think you
3:03:08 ↗
additional open space beyond what's the
3:03:10 ↗
code minimum you could get points for
3:03:11 ↗
that. So I think as we explore you know
3:03:14 ↗
what this actually looks like. I think
3:03:18 ↗
the problem and this is kind of what you
3:03:19 ↗
see in Seattle is like because they have
3:03:21 ↗
very strict design regulations actually
3:03:24 ↗
but every building basically looks the
3:03:26 ↗
same and it's because it's like okay
3:03:29 ↗
everyone you know has to do all these
3:03:30 ↗
specific things and so they've figured
3:03:32 ↗
out it's like this is the specific town
3:03:36 ↗
regulations so we're just going to copy
3:03:38 ↗
and paste it everywhere and so you know
3:03:41 ↗
to the extent that we can give more
3:03:42 ↗
optionality and you know do that I think
3:03:46 ↗
I'm very much looking forward to seeing
3:03:48 ↗
what we do on that in Q4. That said, I
3:03:54 ↗
making the stepbacks less, you know,
3:03:57 ↗
prohibitive at by requiring instead of
3:04:00 ↗
requiring them at the fifth floor, we
3:04:02 ↗
can have them anywhere between that
3:04:03 ↗
section, I think, is fine. Um, and then
3:04:09 ↗
um, open space, I do think I I do think
3:04:12 ↗
it's interesting that we talk about
3:04:14 ↗
common open space in apartment complexes
3:04:18 ↗
as like the equivalent to having access
3:04:22 ↗
to open space, period. In my opinion,
3:04:24 ↗
it's like a lot of these open they're
3:04:29 ↗
I think what we need to be focusing on
3:04:31 ↗
is like do people actually have access
3:04:32 ↗
to parks within a very short walking
3:04:34 ↗
distance of their home? Cuz I especially
3:04:37 ↗
for some of these smaller ones where
3:04:39 ↗
it's like the size of, you know, open
3:04:42 ↗
space that you get. It can be like a
3:04:44 ↗
postage stamp size, you know, little
3:04:48 ↗
sense, but you're just required to do
3:04:50 ↗
it. So, I think we should think about,
3:04:52 ↗
you know, in terms of access to open
3:04:53 ↗
space, how can we make it so that more
3:04:56 ↗
people are living within, you know,
3:04:58 ↗
close access to like the really great
3:05:00 ↗
parks that we have in our city like
3:05:01 ↗
Confluence Park. Um, so those are some
3:05:03 ↗
of my thoughts. I think, you know, the
3:05:05 ↗
way that we've set up these requirements
3:05:07 ↗
now, I think, you know, it's a good
3:05:09 ↗
balance with making things, you know,
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making it more feasible to do, you know,
3:05:16 ↗
redevelopment in Isiqua. But I do think
3:05:19 ↗
we need to kind of have a bigger picture
3:05:21 ↗
view of you know as we are building out
3:05:25 ↗
the city what like how what are the
3:05:28 ↗
different things we need to do to make
3:05:30 ↗
sure that you know the public realm is
3:05:32 ↗
great and people it remains a great
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perhaps even gets better as we uh build
3:05:38 ↗
more homes for more people. So I will be
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>> Thanks. Um I have a chair for a question
3:05:46 ↗
for chair uh PTE chair uh Walsh. So did
3:05:51 ↗
you in committee look at zero step back
3:05:56 ↗
whether zero step back should be uh
3:06:09 ↗
concept so much as I I think it was more
3:06:13 ↗
about when a conversation would happen
3:06:19 ↗
appropriate ideas as an interim before a
3:06:32 ↗
Well, well, I'm just because I I am very
3:06:37 ↗
Council Member Nichols idea that we
3:06:39 ↗
should be able to turn the the full
3:06:41 ↗
knob. And so, um and it seems weird to
3:06:44 ↗
me to do an interim step if if we're
3:06:46 ↗
going to consider turning the full knob
3:06:48 ↗
in a few short months. That seems to be
3:06:50 ↗
a weird environment. I will tell you as
3:06:53 ↗
a as a parent of a child who had to look
3:06:56 ↗
for housing not that long ago, um he my
3:07:00 ↗
son loves Newcastle Commons. Newcastle
3:07:03 ↗
Commons doesn't have setbacks. It but it
3:07:06 ↗
doesn't look like a giant brick and it
3:07:08 ↗
doesn't look like a awful place to live.
3:07:10 ↗
It's a great place to live partially
3:07:11 ↗
because as people have been talking
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about here, it's got open spaces nearby
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and it's got restaurants within walking
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distance and it's got grocery stores
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within a walking distance and and so you
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members of this of this council that um
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workforce housing is not having more
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market rate housing. So I'm inherently
3:07:34 ↗
inclined towards opening the solution
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space up wider. So, as chair of PTE,
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um I'm sort of inclined to try to test
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the waters and see if there would be um
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interest on the council now in sending
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this back to PTE and considering that
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further. But I I hesitate to I wanted to
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talk to you about it first as the chair.
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I don't want to be like, I don't like
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the decision you guys came to, so I want
3:08:00 ↗
you to noodle on it some more. That's
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>> Yeah. I think our main feedback was we
3:08:08 ↗
wanted a menu of options that a project
3:08:13 ↗
could look at to earn points or whatever
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looking at how the promoting building
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investments plan for the two years came
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about, we didn't feel like that was
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something that could happen in this time
3:08:31 ↗
frame. So what we were looking at was
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um in this time period so that we don't
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have the current rules on the books
3:09:00 ↗
in that interim from time. Um because we
3:09:04 ↗
as a committee agreed that the best
3:09:08 ↗
avenue forward to achieve all of the
3:09:11 ↗
goals was to have that menu of options
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and that did not seem like something
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>> Thank you for that explanation. Um, I'm
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gonna be a no tonight because the the
3:09:27 ↗
the path that we're taking right now
3:09:29 ↗
does not strike me as having the urgency
3:09:32 ↗
and severity necessary for the housing
3:09:35 ↗
crisis and affordability crisis we have
3:09:37 ↗
in the city right now. So, I'm going to
3:09:38 ↗
be a no, but I would also be an amenable
3:09:40 ↗
to sending it back to committee if the
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committee would be willing to consider a
3:09:44 ↗
broader range of solutions immediately
3:09:46 ↗
that would have more of an impact on
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cost of of build immediately. Thank you,
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>> Council Member Dare or Nichols Dare.
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>> Um, a couple comments just to clarify
3:09:58 ↗
what my my recollection of that meeting
3:10:01 ↗
and memory is faulty, but uh my what my
3:10:04 ↗
recollection was. So, we um we did not
3:10:11 ↗
requested that that be something that we
3:10:13 ↗
discussed, but that wasn't something
3:10:14 ↗
that was presented. Um, I made some kind
3:10:18 ↗
of hamfisted attempts to think through
3:10:21 ↗
how we might be able to do that in the
3:10:22 ↗
meeting, but it's a complic it's it it
3:10:25 ↗
needs to this is one of these things
3:10:27 ↗
that actually does need the process. I
3:10:28 ↗
wasn't going to I I tried to figure out
3:10:31 ↗
if I could just figure out how to like
3:10:32 ↗
amend it on the fly in the meeting. It
3:10:34 ↗
would it would it was going to be wrong.
3:10:35 ↗
So, I didn't want to do that. Um, well,
3:10:38 ↗
I wanted to, but I didn't. Um, so we did
3:10:41 ↗
not discuss that. We didn't go up we and
3:10:43 ↗
uh because it does need that it needs
3:10:45 ↗
some staff presentation ahead of time to
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at least say what are the thing because
3:10:48 ↗
it's it's at least 10 or 15 sentences
3:10:50 ↗
that have to be right in a somewhat
3:10:52 ↗
complicated or ordinance to get this
3:10:53 ↗
there. So we didn't look at it then. Um
3:10:58 ↗
I also I'm I'm concerned that we're
3:11:00 ↗
conflating multiple motions here. Um
3:11:02 ↗
this the motion that we're discussing is
3:11:04 ↗
about this particular amendment to this
3:11:07 ↗
ordinance which is about the stepX. To
3:11:09 ↗
be clear, as far as our our broader
3:11:11 ↗
architectural standards go, I'm all for
3:11:13 ↗
that. I think it's really interesting
3:11:15 ↗
and it's going to it could be really
3:11:16 ↗
great. I also I'm extremely skeptical
3:11:19 ↗
we're going to be able to do it in the
3:11:20 ↗
time frame we think we are because I
3:11:22 ↗
think it's going to be really really
3:11:23 ↗
hard. Um, as has been referenced, like
3:11:27 ↗
complicated um knockoff effects because
3:11:36 ↗
I'll just leave it. I think it's going
3:11:38 ↗
to be hard to get a point system that
3:11:40 ↗
has never been done before set up in a
3:11:42 ↗
reasonable amount of time and that we
3:11:45 ↗
whatever our goals are on stepbacks
3:11:47 ↗
whatever they are with that. I think we
3:11:49 ↗
separately because I don't think it's
3:11:51 ↗
going to be done in quarter 4. I think
3:11:52 ↗
we're going to debate it a lot and I
3:11:53 ↗
think it's going to need a lot more
3:11:54 ↗
work. Um so I I'm I'm concerned about
3:11:57 ↗
conflating those two things and I think
3:11:58 ↗
we should be treating this as this was
3:12:00 ↗
the first thing on our housing work
3:12:02 ↗
plan. Did we get it right? Um, if not,
3:12:05 ↗
if yes, vote yes. Um, if no, um, and if
3:12:08 ↗
one of those reasons why no is because
3:12:10 ↗
we didn't look at all the options, look
3:12:12 ↗
at the options, come back with at least
3:12:14 ↗
that those options analyzed and then
3:12:16 ↗
present that. Um, and then just finally,
3:12:19 ↗
as a specific point as to um, one of
3:12:21 ↗
council member Zair's questions on the
3:12:25 ↗
understand somewhat of the cost of this.
3:12:26 ↗
This is what I was getting at as far as
3:12:28 ↗
this having step backs at all is what's
3:12:31 ↗
adding 20 to 40 bucks a month per unit
3:12:33 ↗
in rent. Um, so that's your that that's
3:12:38 ↗
aesthetic benefits. I mean, beauty is in
3:12:40 ↗
the eye of the holder clearly, but I
3:12:42 ↗
mean many some will argue they have
3:12:44 ↗
that. And is it worth that cost? So, we
3:12:46 ↗
have we we we can peg this somewhere as
3:12:49 ↗
to what this would cost versus cities
3:12:51 ↗
such as like both that does not have any
3:12:53 ↗
stepback requirements at all. Um, I
3:12:55 ↗
would argue Buffalo is not a concrete
3:12:57 ↗
jungle, but I I I don't know how to
3:12:59 ↗
quantify units of jungleness, so I don't
3:13:00 ↗
want to go down that rabbit hole, per
3:13:02 ↗
se. So, um, that's the I think that
3:13:05 ↗
those are the the sets of comments I
3:13:10 ↗
>> uh, just a comment to, uh, Council
3:13:13 ↗
President Marts. Uh, Newcastle Commons
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looks to be five stories, so it would
3:13:16 ↗
still fit in these exa existing stepback
3:13:19 ↗
requirements that we have here, uh, and
3:13:22 ↗
still look the same. So, uh, just to my
3:13:25 ↗
pros step back step set step back uh
3:13:28 ↗
case. Um, as for I I think I'm still
3:13:36 ↗
specific requirements. I am okay with
3:13:39 ↗
flexibility and and and um, you know, to
3:13:46 ↗
jeopardize too much. So, I'm okay with
3:13:48 ↗
these as is. And so now, but it seems
3:13:50 ↗
like we're falling into this broader
3:13:53 ↗
what it's like I'm unsure, like I said,
3:13:56 ↗
if we approve these, how the future
3:13:58 ↗
conversation goes and if we're talking
3:14:01 ↗
about this menu, are we creating more
3:14:02 ↗
confusion? And so I'm uncertain whether
3:14:04 ↗
to vote for this because I think it's
3:14:06 ↗
okay as is, but then we're going to be
3:14:09 ↗
changing things again later or not. And
3:14:11 ↗
so I'm getting a little confused in
3:14:13 ↗
terms of where this discussion is going
3:14:15 ↗
and what this vote will represent in
3:14:18 ↗
terms of the long-term consequences
3:14:22 ↗
whether this should all be reconsidered
3:14:24 ↗
and have a more cohesive package or not.
3:14:26 ↗
Um is where I am. You know, like I don't
3:14:30 ↗
specifically on stepbacks. It's more
3:14:31 ↗
like do we do are we going to be working
3:14:34 ↗
on each of these one by one like this or
3:14:37 ↗
is it that we're trying to get to some
3:14:38 ↗
sort of cumulative larger plan? And so
3:14:42 ↗
that's where I'm kind of concerned in
3:14:43 ↗
terms of how to vote now of whether
3:14:45 ↗
we're locking into some really peacemeal
3:14:47 ↗
way or if we should be just pausing to
3:14:50 ↗
consider it as a more comprehensive plan
3:14:54 ↗
>> And I think before I go to council
3:14:56 ↗
member Walsh, I mean I think the we have
3:14:58 ↗
17 items I mean this is a long list of
3:15:04 ↗
community planning development to come
3:15:06 ↗
up with improvements on. So I think our
3:15:08 ↗
challenge is every one of those 17 items
3:15:09 ↗
you're basically going to say status quo
3:15:14 ↗
progress that makes it easier to build
3:15:19 ↗
flexibility and choices and then there's
3:15:21 ↗
always going to be the full monty choice
3:15:24 ↗
regulating this field whatsoever. And
3:15:28 ↗
basically on all 17 of these projects.
3:15:32 ↗
choice. Like so committees can always
3:15:36 ↗
say I want to see the full I want to see
3:15:42 ↗
regulations in the space. And so I think
3:15:44 ↗
in every all 17 of these I think uh
3:15:49 ↗
that is just going to be in front. And
3:15:50 ↗
so but this conversation is never going
3:15:52 ↗
to get easier on all 17 of these. I mean
3:15:54 ↗
because right now these are the two that
3:15:56 ↗
we I think our assessment was were the
3:15:58 ↗
lowest hanging of fruit that the fruit
3:16:00 ↗
gets higher up the tree as as we go
3:16:02 ↗
further down this list and I think as
3:16:04 ↗
council member Nichols said when we get
3:16:06 ↗
into creating a point system for design
3:16:09 ↗
arguments do you need 10 points or 15
3:16:10 ↗
points and and how much is open space
3:16:13 ↗
worth is it worth one point or three
3:16:14 ↗
points like it's going to be an endless
3:16:15 ↗
stream of permutations and so it's only
3:16:18 ↗
going to get harder and I think that's
3:16:20 ↗
just where we're at right now and this
3:16:22 ↗
council is going to have to decide I
3:16:23 ↗
like I think first off tonight there's
3:16:26 ↗
always a choice to divide the question
3:16:27 ↗
cuz you have full agreement it sounds
3:16:29 ↗
like in the council on the open space
3:16:31 ↗
amenities and then I think you're going
3:16:32 ↗
to have to decide cuz there's going to
3:16:35 ↗
comfortable removing all the regulations
3:16:37 ↗
and there's going to be members of the
3:16:37 ↗
council that want to remove all the
3:16:39 ↗
regulations and I think it's just going
3:16:41 ↗
to be this is the first of many of these
3:16:43 ↗
to come which I I think is going to be
3:16:45 ↗
our challenge is we're trying to get
3:16:47 ↗
through this but if we want to do it in
3:16:49 ↗
a efficient timely manner we're also
3:16:51 ↗
going to have to make some difficult
3:16:54 ↗
votes where we may not have unanimous
3:16:56 ↗
consensus because there's a reason these
3:16:58 ↗
things haven't changed is they're not
3:17:00 ↗
easy to change. Council member Walsh.
3:17:02 ↗
>> Yeah. And I think that's a great way to
3:17:05 ↗
frame this conversation. Um, I think
3:17:08 ↗
what I would also say is I'm hearing
3:17:12 ↗
from several council members tonight
3:17:14 ↗
that we need to make sure that the staff
3:17:18 ↗
information and that the um council
3:17:21 ↗
committees are treating this with the
3:17:24 ↗
urgency that it deserves. And so I will
3:17:26 ↗
take that as really good feedback and
3:17:29 ↗
something that we can look at. I think
3:17:31 ↗
this is the first piece out of the gate
3:17:35 ↗
and from my perspective I'm comfortable
3:17:38 ↗
moving forward with this as as I would
3:17:41 ↗
say an interim adjustment as we kind of
3:17:45 ↗
look at this larger picture of what are
3:17:47 ↗
the most important biggest levers that
3:17:51 ↗
we can do. How do we pull something
3:17:53 ↗
together that meets our community needs?
3:17:56 ↗
And then also just saying this as an
3:17:59 ↗
adjustment will allow any building under
3:18:03 ↗
the five stories to not have a um step
3:18:15 ↗
apartments and condos that we would see
3:18:19 ↗
um in the next year or so. So I think
3:18:24 ↗
direction that we want to go. I think it
3:18:27 ↗
also gives us the larger council sense
3:18:32 ↗
of urgency as we look at some of the
3:18:35 ↗
bigger areas that um potentially move
3:18:37 ↗
forward. So that would be my approach,
3:18:40 ↗
but I would love to hear from any other
3:18:55 ↗
I think that uh we should go forward
3:18:57 ↗
with both the motions this evening. Um,
3:19:03 ↗
giving some progress or showing some
3:19:09 ↗
will be important to the development
3:19:14 ↗
uh that if it's under five, they don't
3:19:16 ↗
have to worry about that particular
3:19:23 ↗
apartments or buildings over five in
3:19:26 ↗
Isiqua that are residential right now,
3:19:28 ↗
but if we set a rule right now for five
3:19:32 ↗
and below as the committee chair is
3:19:37 ↗
um I think it does give the development
3:19:40 ↗
uh a green light to know that those are
3:19:43 ↗
the rules for now. They can put their
3:19:45 ↗
plans in. they can get vested under
3:19:47 ↗
those rules and go forward if they have
3:19:52 ↗
we need to I I I will commend the mayor
3:19:55 ↗
for making great progress with uh the
3:20:00 ↗
issue of housing and uh making Isiqua
3:20:04 ↗
known as a city that is uh more open to
3:20:09 ↗
considering options for housing and
3:20:11 ↗
considering new projects for housing.
3:20:13 ↗
That's uh a a piece of feedback that I
3:20:16 ↗
hear when I'm out in the community. I
3:20:18 ↗
think that approving these amendments
3:20:21 ↗
tonight uh furthers that message and
3:20:24 ↗
also emphasizes that we are trying to
3:20:27 ↗
make progress on these things. If we
3:20:34 ↗
uh it may be another year before we're
3:20:36 ↗
going to get to back to them. If we
3:20:41 ↗
development community a message that
3:20:43 ↗
these are the projects that you can that
3:20:45 ↗
we can approve without the stepbacks.
3:20:48 ↗
Um, if you have something that you think
3:20:50 ↗
you want to get put through and get
3:20:53 ↗
vested, go ahead and do it. I think it's
3:20:55 ↗
the right message to send during this
3:20:58 ↗
uh supply challenge that we're having.
3:21:01 ↗
Um, also in addition to that, we're also
3:21:08 ↗
inventories are rising both for new
3:21:10 ↗
housing and for uh, existing homes. Uh,
3:21:15 ↗
a number of builders have inventory
3:21:17 ↗
that's sitting on their books that they
3:21:20 ↗
can't necessarily get rid of and sell.
3:21:24 ↗
Um, some are taking losses on their
3:21:26 ↗
projects, etc. That's just a short way
3:21:28 ↗
of saying we need to continue to show as
3:21:31 ↗
a council that we are making progress on
3:21:34 ↗
rules that are going to help uh other
3:21:37 ↗
projects come in uh that make sense and
3:21:40 ↗
I think both these amendments, both
3:21:42 ↗
these proposals tonight do that. Thank
3:21:48 ↗
>> Okay. Uh oh, Deputy President Jane.
3:21:50 ↗
>> Yeah, I think I will also be voting yes
3:21:53 ↗
tonight. I think to council member Joe's
3:21:55 ↗
point, I think saying we're voting no
3:21:57 ↗
because this doesn't go far enough is a
3:22:03 ↗
should, you know, in my opinion it shows
3:22:05 ↗
some progress and that's something we
3:22:06 ↗
can point to as you know we're making
3:22:08 ↗
progress in making it easier and more
3:22:12 ↗
cost effective to build an ISQA. We can
3:22:13 ↗
always revisit stepbacks. we could even,
3:22:16 ↗
you know, put it on for Q3 to say should
3:22:20 ↗
completely, you know, abolish stepback
3:22:24 ↗
requirements in the city of Isiqua. I
3:22:26 ↗
just like given that there's so many
3:22:31 ↗
anytime, you know, we have to spend
3:22:33 ↗
months going through PPC, PTE, etc.
3:22:38 ↗
my preference is for us to kind of put
3:22:42 ↗
this one to bed for now and keep moving
3:22:43 ↗
forward with some of our other, you
3:22:45 ↗
know, items that are further like later
3:22:48 ↗
in the timeline, including those that
3:22:50 ↗
may be more substantive, such as the
3:22:59 ↗
>> I plan on voting yes because I don't
3:23:01 ↗
want this to be a case of the perfect
3:23:08 ↗
>> her boy gets a brevity award. Council
3:23:12 ↗
>> So the hour is late and I want to make
3:23:17 ↗
misconstrued as more grumpy because
3:23:19 ↗
they're not intended to be grumpy. Um,
3:23:22 ↗
one of the reasons that I am voting no
3:23:24 ↗
is I think that there has been a pattern
3:23:28 ↗
for a long time. I'm not going to say
3:23:30 ↗
it's it's this mayor or or this city
3:23:33 ↗
administrator. Uh, I think there's there
3:23:36 ↗
has been, especially with code, um, I
3:23:43 ↗
um doesn't always send us the breadth of
3:23:46 ↗
consideration that we would like. And so
3:23:52 ↗
because this is clearly going to pass. I
3:23:54 ↗
I can I understand how these things
3:23:55 ↗
work. Um but I I really want to see the
3:23:58 ↗
full range in the future. Um I really
3:24:00 ↗
when this when this council says we want
3:24:02 ↗
to see the full range of possibilities,
3:24:05 ↗
possibilities. We don't want to see a
3:24:07 ↗
subset. I again I'm I'm not not trying
3:24:10 ↗
to be grumpy. Um I'm just setting a
3:24:12 ↗
standard for going f for the future. I
3:24:14 ↗
think council member Nichols is really
3:24:16 ↗
right that we want to see the full knob
3:24:20 ↗
setbacks because you'll create bricks or
3:24:24 ↗
consider those and and so I want to see
3:24:26 ↗
it in the future and so that's part of
3:24:27 ↗
what my no vote's going to be tonight.
3:24:32 ↗
>> Okay. Uh see no further discussion. The
3:24:35 ↗
motion for the council, which I will
3:24:37 ↗
reread since it's been an hour, adopt
3:24:41 ↗
ordinance number 3143, amending chapters
3:24:49 ↗
and 18.72 of the Isco Municipal Code to
3:24:55 ↗
amending chapter 18.608 608 community
3:24:57 ↗
amenity spaces disclosive code to reduce
3:25:00 ↗
the amount of required open amenity
3:25:04 ↗
residential developments. All those in
3:25:13 ↗
>> That's council president Martz and
3:25:14 ↗
council member Nichols voting no. That
3:25:16 ↗
passes five to two and that will take us
3:25:21 ↗
to committee reports. Council member
3:25:25 ↗
I uh as of last week have been appointed
3:25:28 ↗
to the PSRC Transportation Policy Board.
3:25:31 ↗
Uh my first meeting for that will be
3:25:32 ↗
9:00 a.m. on Thursday, July 9th. I think
3:25:35 ↗
I have that date right. Then I'll have a
3:25:38 ↗
>> I know that was your first report,
3:25:40 ↗
right? That's good. Council member,
3:25:42 ↗
>> uh I have three reports. Uh uh on June
3:25:46 ↗
18th was the first meeting of the sound
3:25:49 ↗
city's equity and inclusion cabinet,
3:25:50 ↗
which I was recently uh appointed to. Uh
3:25:53 ↗
it was just an introductory meeting to
3:25:54 ↗
kind of get to know all the members. We
3:25:56 ↗
tal started talking about what we wanted
3:25:58 ↗
to do. This cabinet hadn't been around
3:26:00 ↗
and so it's kind of newly formed. So
3:26:02 ↗
just kind of getting an idea of what a
3:26:03 ↗
work plan might look like. Uh we mostly
3:26:06 ↗
ended up discussing you know how each of
3:26:10 ↗
looking to collect our experiences and
3:26:18 ↗
discuss and kind of coordinate ideas uh
3:26:21 ↗
there. But so that is you know just
3:26:23 ↗
getting going and more more to come as
3:26:25 ↗
we meet. Um I had June 24th I had the uh
3:26:29 ↗
Kakani ILA management uh meeting. It was
3:26:33 ↗
just really talking about the draft of
3:26:34 ↗
the 2027 budget which does not have very
3:26:37 ↗
much of a increase. So nice and small
3:26:39 ↗
there. Um and some updates to voting
3:26:42 ↗
procedures for uh if there's like an
3:26:45 ↗
management community together quickly.
3:26:47 ↗
Uh and then finally just uh earlier
3:26:50 ↗
today was my uh the second meeting for
3:26:54 ↗
Administrative administration committee.
3:26:56 ↗
Uh so continued budget discussions there
3:26:59 ↗
on drafting that. Uh this was really
3:27:01 ↗
more detail on the operating expenses.
3:27:05 ↗
didn't do it in the first meeting about
3:27:07 ↗
equipment and apparatus and capital
3:27:09 ↗
facilities maintenance. Uh so this is
3:27:13 ↗
requests on their side and still big
3:27:17 ↗
likely be where we start to really push
3:27:23 ↗
hopefully uh more uh achievable budget.
3:27:27 ↗
Uh and the next meeting for that is July
3:27:29 ↗
21st. Uh and that concludes my reports
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>> Yman's work you're doing on that
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committee. Uh Council Member Nichols.
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>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I have no reports.
3:27:42 ↗
>> Thank you. I just have a list of
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development, environments next meeting
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is July 7th. East Side Fire and Rescue
3:27:51 ↗
meets next Thursday on July 9th. Agenda
3:27:54 ↗
hasn't yet been adopted. Um, a regional
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electeds. Next meeting is July 23rd.
3:28:03 ↗
Again, no uh agenda. And King County
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affordable housing committee next meets
3:28:10 ↗
on July 9th, but it overlaps with aside
3:28:12 ↗
Fire and Rescue, so I will miss it. And
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infrastructure committee is scheduled to
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meet July 14th. Currently, there are no
3:28:22 ↗
items uh on the work plan. However,
3:28:26 ↗
Director Moon may have a wash uh issue
3:28:29 ↗
that may come on the agenda. So, it may
3:28:32 ↗
be cancelled. Uh committee members,
3:28:34 ↗
please uh watch your emails for that. Uh
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meeting on the 24th uh that I attended.
3:28:42 ↗
The main item was a budget discussion.
3:28:44 ↗
Uh water rates are scheduled to rise uh
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by about 12.8% for 2027 for Isiqua. Um
3:28:55 ↗
budget is still being formed, but just
3:28:57 ↗
wanted to let people know that is in the
3:28:59 ↗
future potentially. Also, the Cascade
3:29:02 ↗
Supply program uh was discussed. It was
3:29:06 ↗
uh asked that uh there be some further
3:29:11 ↗
committee that's going to be overlooking
3:29:13 ↗
the 30 mile transportation line that
3:29:16 ↗
Cascade Water Alliance is building from
3:29:18 ↗
Tacoma to bring water from Tacoma up to
3:29:21 ↗
our system. It's a multi-billion dollar
3:29:24 ↗
oversight is correct for that and uh the
3:29:27 ↗
board wanted more work completed before
3:29:29 ↗
that process for oversight is approved.
3:29:32 ↗
It'll probably come back in September.
3:29:37 ↗
uh Eltech committee will be meeting on
3:29:39 ↗
July 28th. We we will be reviewing and
3:29:42 ↗
evaluating the new requests for the
3:29:44 ↗
second round of funding. $100,000 has
3:29:47 ↗
been opened up for new items in the
3:29:49 ↗
second shoulder season to support visits
3:29:54 ↗
stays. That concludes my report. Thank
3:29:58 ↗
>> Great. I have one report. Um, so the
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Friday, June 26th. We received an update
3:30:07 ↗
on KCRA's corrective action plan, which
3:30:13 ↗
response to their forensic investigation
3:30:18 ↗
Um, and then we also received a briefing
3:30:20 ↗
on the point in time count, which has
3:30:25 ↗
topline funding topline fund findings
3:30:27 ↗
from that are that overall homelessness
3:30:30 ↗
uh between 2024 and 26 went up by 9% and
3:30:34 ↗
unsheltered homelessness really went up
3:30:35 ↗
by about 21%. And that's actually driven
3:30:38 ↗
in part by the fact that the number of
3:30:40 ↗
shelter beds in King County decreased
3:30:42 ↗
between 2024 to 26 by several hundred. A
3:30:46 ↗
lot of this was actually due to one
3:30:48 ↗
specific uh uh shelter closing. It was
3:30:53 ↗
planned redevelopment where they're
3:30:56 ↗
affordable housing with more units. Um,
3:30:58 ↗
but Mary's Place wanted to move into
3:31:00 ↗
different building but could not find a
3:31:02 ↗
suitable location so they had to close
3:31:03 ↗
it. And so, you know, I think one of the
3:31:05 ↗
things that this really goes to show is
3:31:07 ↗
Seattle really Seattle and King County
3:31:09 ↗
really are an outlier in the country in
3:31:11 ↗
terms of having such a high proportion
3:31:13 ↗
of unsheltered homelessness. And so
3:31:15 ↗
figuring out, you know, how can we have
3:31:17 ↗
more shelters and transitional housing
3:31:19 ↗
available for folks in our community?
3:31:26 ↗
communities. There's none in Isiqua
3:31:27 ↗
right now. And so thinking about how we
3:31:28 ↗
can, you know, assist with that regional
3:31:31 ↗
effort. Um, the other thing to note is
3:31:35 ↗
conducted at the county level, but it
3:31:36 ↗
doesn't have a breakdown on a regional
3:31:38 ↗
or city level. I actually back when they
3:31:40 ↗
did it in January volunteered at the
3:31:42 ↗
site um here in Isiqua um which is uh
3:31:44 ↗
you know colllocated with the meals
3:31:46 ↗
program. So you know there is a very
3:31:49 ↗
significant need not just in King County
3:31:52 ↗
as a whole but in Isqua specifically
3:31:55 ↗
communities and so you know we I think
3:31:58 ↗
we at least speaking for myself I feel
3:31:59 ↗
that we have a responsibility to um do
3:32:01 ↗
what we can to help you know address
3:32:04 ↗
this regional crisis. So, um, and one,
3:32:08 ↗
uh, meeting to report. So, the East Side
3:32:10 ↗
Transportation Partnership, our next
3:32:12 ↗
meeting is on July 10th, Friday, July
3:32:17 ↗
County Regional Homelessness Authority
3:32:18 ↗
governing board meeting is Friday, July
3:32:20 ↗
24th at 10 a.m. And then we also have a
3:32:24 ↗
Advisory Committee meeting uh that same
3:32:27 ↗
day, July 24th, at uh 1:30 p.m. The the
3:32:35 ↗
Committee meeting for June was canceled
3:32:36 ↗
because a lot of people were traveling
3:32:38 ↗
back from the AWC conference in Spokane
3:32:40 ↗
during our normal meeting time. That
3:32:42 ↗
concludes my report. Council President
3:32:45 ↗
>> two things, one sort of boring one a lot
3:32:48 ↗
Association board of directors met on
3:32:50 ↗
Wednesday, June 17th at Renton City
3:32:52 ↗
Hall. The only thing we did um that
3:32:54 ↗
really matters is we appointed council
3:32:57 ↗
member Boyd to the as the SEA alternate
3:32:59 ↗
to PSRC transportation policy board as
3:33:01 ↗
she's already mentioned. Uh, however,
3:33:04 ↗
the interesting is upcoming SCA pick
3:33:06 ↗
meeting Wednesday July 8th is actually
3:33:08 ↗
going to be at the Kirkland Justice
3:33:10 ↗
Center. Um, and there is a pre-pick
3:33:14 ↗
meeting that is open to all PIC members
3:33:18 ↗
crisis care center virtual tour. So
3:33:21 ↗
although we're going to be there, it
3:33:26 ↗
Response Center provide a virtual tour
3:33:28 ↗
and Q&A of the Connections Kirkland
3:33:32 ↗
everybody. um you would then not be
3:33:35 ↗
invited to join us for the PIC meeting
3:33:37 ↗
that occurs immediately thereafter. But
3:33:41 ↗
interesting um topic. So then at the PIC
3:33:44 ↗
meeting that will occur starting at 7
3:33:46 ↗
p.m. in the same location, we're going
3:33:47 ↗
to take action on the 2027 solid waste
3:33:50 ↗
rate letter that promises to be spicy.
3:33:52 ↗
Um we're going to have a discussion on
3:33:54 ↗
affordable housing levy part two. Uh
3:33:57 ↗
we're going to have discussion on the
3:33:58 ↗
mid implementation plan. This is the
3:34:00 ↗
mental illness drug dependency sales
3:34:02 ↗
tax. Um, and uh, and its implementation.
3:34:07 ↗
Uh, so it should be an action-packed
3:34:09 ↗
pick meeting and I will report back on
3:34:14 ↗
>> Oh, and I'm sorry. Well, sorry, Mr.
3:34:16 ↗
Mayor. One last thing. Anybody who wants
3:34:17 ↗
to car I guess, well, you carpool with
3:34:20 ↗
me, but then you wouldn't be staying for
3:34:23 ↗
>> You could stay for the PIC meeting. You
3:34:24 ↗
would just have to sit in the back of
3:34:25 ↗
the room quietly and say nothing. So
3:34:28 ↗
anyhow, if anybody wants to come for the
3:34:30 ↗
connections crisis care center and karp
3:34:31 ↗
with me, you'd be welcome. Thank you.
3:34:34 ↗
>> deputy president Jang and I toured that
3:34:36 ↗
crisis care center in person earlier
3:34:38 ↗
this year. Okay, mayor's report down on
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Fourth of July. This is the week. We've
3:34:43 ↗
been talking about this event for a long
3:34:44 ↗
time. It starts Thursday with the Chalk
3:34:48 ↗
Art Festival. That's noon to 4 here at
3:34:51 ↗
the community center. It's live music,
3:34:53 ↗
lots of entertainment. That is followed
3:34:55 ↗
by Friday. Bring your wagons to the
3:34:57 ↗
senior center 3 to 7. You can decorate a
3:35:00 ↗
wagon. Then you can let it park and hang
3:35:03 ↗
out at the senior center overnight. So
3:35:04 ↗
you don't have to worry about taking
3:35:05 ↗
your wagon back and forth. The more
3:35:08 ↗
creative the wagon design, the better.
3:35:11 ↗
And that brings you then to Saturday,
3:35:14 ↗
the 4th of July. So the farmers market
3:35:15 ↗
moves to Memorial Field. So, the farmers
3:35:17 ↗
market will launch as normal time at
3:35:19 ↗
9:00 a.m. On the 4th, we will then at
3:35:25 ↗
start. And so, I know there's a lot of
3:35:27 ↗
cool stuff in the parade. It's uh I was
3:35:29 ↗
getting a rundown from Lindsay Marsh on
3:35:32 ↗
the parade items. There's going to be
3:35:33 ↗
horses, going to be marching bands,
3:35:35 ↗
there's going to be clowns and and a lot
3:35:40 ↗
that'll be at 10:00 a.m. on on the 4th.
3:35:44 ↗
That's you can do your wagons, bring
3:35:46 ↗
your pets, and then that evening, there
3:35:50 ↗
Smamish. So, people can go watch the
3:35:51 ↗
fireworks Lake Smash. I think that will
3:35:56 ↗
following Tuesday, July 7th, is the
3:35:58 ↗
first Kuanas concerts on the green and a
3:36:00 ↗
prom date mixtape. I suggest you bring
3:36:03 ↗
the disco gliders. They're good. It's a
3:36:05 ↗
especially if you like 80s music. So,
3:36:09 ↗
Summerfest and I think it's an excellent
3:36:12 ↗
way to launch the Concerts on the Green
3:36:16 ↗
community center at 7 July 7th. And with
3:36:20 ↗
that, we are now at good of the order.
3:36:24 ↗
Good of the order. Not saying good of
3:36:27 ↗
the order. Uh, our next meetings are
3:36:30 ↗
Monday, July 13th committee. The whole
3:36:32 ↗
Oh, emergency management training right
3:36:34 ↗
here. I heard it's going to be crazy
3:36:37 ↗
gather around a table and be put through
3:36:39 ↗
emergency management training exercises.
3:36:42 ↗
Uh council members safety training as
3:36:44 ↗
well. Uh the IT staff will be offering
3:36:48 ↗
an optional help session uh at 5:30 p.m.
3:36:50 ↗
on July 13th if you have any tech issues
3:36:52 ↗
with your devices. Uh Monday, July 20th
3:36:55 ↗
will be our council meeting for this
3:36:57 ↗
meeting normally would have happened
3:36:59 ↗
July 6th. The last World Cup game is
3:37:02 ↗
July 6th, so we actually did it on June
3:37:04 ↗
29th. So, our next city council meeting
3:37:06 ↗
will not be until the 20th. We will then
3:37:09 ↗
have I think uh Dale Marky Crimp will
3:37:11 ↗
give you options on proposed automated
3:37:18 ↗
transparency, I think the options will
3:37:20 ↗
be presented in July, but I think the
3:37:22 ↗
focus is going to be on getting the
3:37:24 ↗
budget adopted this year. So, I think
3:37:25 ↗
you're going to have plenty of time to
3:37:27 ↗
think on those options because I don't
3:37:28 ↗
think we're probably going to dive into
3:37:30 ↗
which options go down until the first
3:37:34 ↗
standards, frontage improvements for
3:37:36 ↗
addressed. Park bond renewal pro and con
3:37:39 ↗
committee appointments will be made
3:37:46 ↗
session tonight. And yes, I completely
3:37:48 ↗
lost the prediction of when this meeting
3:37:50 ↗
would end by a whopping 40 minutes cuz
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