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City Council Committee of the Whole Upcoming

Monday, July 13, 2026

6:30 PM · 49m 23s · Council Chambers, 135 E. Sunset Way, Issaquah WA
Topic tracked across meetings:
Emergency Management Tabletop Exercise 7:05 PM Facilitated by: Jared Schneider, Emergency Manager COM 0293 2/2
3. AGENDA ITEMS
3a
Emergency Management Training 6:35 PM COM 0284
25 min · Jared Schneider, Emergency Manager Please note, the remainder of the meeting · packet pp.5–255
Topics: Public Safety
Staff report:
Provide emergency management training to the City Council followed by a tabletop exercise to give the City Council practice with various emergency management scenarios.
3b
Emergency Management Tabletop Exercise 7:05 PM Facilitated by: Jared Schneider, Emergency Manager COM 0293
90 min
Topics: Public Safety
0:00 What was that?
0:01 >> It's 6:30.
0:01 >> It is 6:30.
0:09 >> Welcome everyone. I, Council Member
0:12 Mars, start the July 13th committee the
0:14 whole meeting to order at 6:30 p.m.
0:16 Council members Adair and Nichols have
0:18 excused absences this evening. Tonight,
0:20 our second agenda item is an opportunity
0:22 for us to practice some hypothetical
0:24 emergency management scenarios by doing
0:26 a tabletop exercise. For that portion of
0:28 the meeting, we will be moving to the
0:30 tables along the floor. Given that the
0:32 virtual portion of the meeting will end
0:34 after the first item on the agenda,
0:36 COOM0284,
0:37 emergency management training, at
0:39 approximately 7 p.m. The recording will
0:41 also stop at that time. Anyone from the
0:43 public who is here in the room is
0:45 welcome to stay and observe.
0:47 Public comment. Members of the public
0:49 may address council at this time in
0:50 person or virtually. There are two
0:52 public comment opportunities at
0:53 tonight's meeting. There's a general
0:55 public comment opportunity now at the
0:56 beginning of the meeting or you can make
0:58 comments after the presentation and
1:00 council question and answer period on
1:02 the first agenda item emergency
1:03 management training. Those who signed up
1:05 in advance to make comments will be
1:07 called on first. If you are joining us
1:09 virtually and would like to make
1:10 comments, please raise your virtual
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1:17 icon or send the host a chat message. If
1:19 you are in the room and did not sign up,
1:20 I will ask for other speakers before
1:22 closing this portion of the meeting.
1:23 You're invited to address the council
1:25 regarding matters that are directly
1:26 related to Isiqua's programs, projects,
1:28 services, or events. Comments related to
1:30 political campaigns, or ballot
1:31 propositions are not permitted. Please
1:34 direct the comments to the whole council
1:35 and not individuals. While this is not a
1:37 question and answer session, we will
1:39 contact you to follow up if needed. When
1:41 recognized, unmute your microphone for
1:43 virtual attendees or move to the lecture
1:45 in for in-person attendees. State your
1:48 name in relationship to the city. Speak
1:50 clearly and pause frequently. Limit
1:52 comments to five minutes. Personal
1:54 attacks, obscene language, derogatory
1:55 remarks, and distracting conduct such as
1:57 shouting, booing, clapping, or stomping
1:59 feet is discouraged. If a speaker is out
2:02 of order, I will caution the member and
2:03 remind them of the city's rules of
2:04 conduct. Clerk, can you identify uh if
2:07 anyone has signed up to speak?
2:09 >> No, no one has signed up to speak and in
2:11 fact uh we do not have any members of
2:12 the public with us in the audience nor
2:14 with us virtually at this time.
2:17 >> Well, there we go. Uh but to clarify,
2:20 council member Joe is with us uh by
2:22 phone for your awareness.
2:24 >> Great. All right. With that, we'll move
2:26 to agenda item COM 0284, emergency
2:29 management training, presented by Jared
2:31 Schneider, our emergency manager.
2:38 All right, let's pull my slides. Give me
2:41 one moment. All right, perfect.
2:46 Okay.
2:48 All right. Good evening, council. It's
2:51 uh always a pleasure to get to talk to
2:53 you. Um especially tonight speaking
2:55 about something near and dear, of
2:56 course, to me, which is emergency
2:58 management. Um training um elected
3:01 officials, making sure you all know your
3:03 role in our disasters and emergency
3:06 response. um to really just create a
3:08 cohesive city um response to to whatever
3:13 you know um life has in store for our
3:16 city. So um with that the uh I wanted to
3:20 key up just um what we're going to be
3:22 learning today, the key principles that
3:23 we're going to go over. And so as I
3:25 mentioned uh elected officials uh you
3:27 all play a critical role in how the city
3:30 uh manages our emergencies, right? Uh so
3:32 this presentation will equip elected
3:34 officials on the key principles of one
3:37 ensuring continuity of government, two
3:39 utilizing emergency authorities, three
3:41 collaborating to improve our emergency
3:43 response and recovery. Uh defining
3:46 responsibilities, right? Making sure we
3:47 all know our lanes if you will, and then
3:50 of course uh reviewing lessons learned
3:52 from other jurisdictions who've gone
3:53 through major disasters uh in their own
3:56 right. And so um with that we're going
4:00 to start really from just the beginning
4:02 which is what is emergency management?
4:05 What role does it play within our city?
4:08 Um what are some of the foundations for
4:10 it in law? Um so there are two major
4:14 laws that um RC in the RCW and WAC that
4:18 really require the foundation of a local
4:20 emergency management organization. And
4:22 within those two laws, it directs uh
4:24 them to establish a plan to respond to
4:26 emergencies. I'll talk about what that
4:28 plan is in just a moment. Um but for our
4:31 own uh IMCC uh code, right, our own is
4:34 squa code, it identifies the mayor uh to
4:37 serve as the chief executive during
4:38 emergencies. And so I'm pulling those
4:40 two out because those are very key laws
4:42 when it comes to emergency management.
4:44 Now the plan that is established by our
4:48 local emergency management office is our
4:50 comprehensive emergency management plan
4:52 or CMP. Within that document, it
4:55 establishes uh the roles, the
4:56 responsibilities of the mayor, the
4:58 council, departments, and our many
5:00 partners when it comes to emergency
5:02 response. So to back things up just a
5:04 little bit too, um there is one system
5:08 that every fire department, police
5:11 department, city, county, state, all the
5:13 way up to the federal government uses
5:15 for emergency response here in the
5:18 United States. And so that is identified
5:20 under the National Incident Management
5:22 System, NIMS as an acronym. And we like
5:25 every other jurisdiction use that system
5:28 to respond and manage our emergencies.
5:31 So, we'll be going into a little bit of
5:34 uh some of the fundamentals of what
5:35 comes with that system. We won't explore
5:38 a full instant command system training.
5:40 Um, again, we're only going to pick out
5:41 the pieces really that do pertain uh to
5:44 elected officials and again what what
5:46 your role is within uh emergencies. So,
5:50 emergencies um they do extend beyond
5:53 just response, right? So um on the right
5:56 you'll see in this slide a uh what we
5:58 call the continuum of emergency
6:00 management. So um beyond response right
6:04 there is recovery, mitigation and
6:06 preparedness. And so just to speak to a
6:08 little bit of those um recovery is of
6:11 course you know recovering from a
6:12 disaster after it happens. Um that is
6:15 sometimes an overlooked element of
6:17 emergencies especially uh community
6:19 defining ones right where serious
6:21 numbers of homes are lost and people are
6:23 left with trauma etc etc right a
6:25 recovery is something uh that doesn't
6:27 always get the attention but is often
6:29 times uh something that jurisdictions
6:31 spend the most time uh working on uh
6:34 related to emergencies mitigation is
6:36 making disasters uh less bad if you will
6:39 for the future right so whether it's
6:41 infrastructure improvements um
6:43 development of new programs uh to to
6:46 support our uh residents or our
6:47 community. Um that is really reducing
6:50 the long-term impact. Preparedness is
6:52 speaks to not only our community members
6:54 knowing what to do and how to be
6:56 prepared for our many emergencies, but
6:58 also for our own uh city government to
7:01 make sure that we're ready to uh
7:03 respond. And of course, response is
7:04 pretty straightforward, right? when
7:06 whatever thing happens um we are we are
7:09 responding to it uh accordingly as
7:11 identified in our comprehensive
7:13 emergency management plan. So that's
7:16 really emergency management um in a
7:19 broad nutshell. It's um authorities and
7:21 how it is established within our city
7:24 and here in Washington.
7:27 So um I want to draw some lines first
7:30 and talk about roles, right? So um
7:33 within that plan we have roles and
7:35 responsibilities identified. So two
7:38 terms that you're going to hear not only
7:39 in this training but also in the
7:41 exercise tonight is instant commander
7:43 and emergency operations center. Um
7:46 effectively the things that these that
7:48 these people are doing and that this
7:50 institution is doing is it's leading our
7:52 emergency operations. It's directing
7:54 tactical response, coordinating uh
7:57 resources, providing situational
7:59 awareness and communication to the
8:02 public. So situational awareness kind of
8:03 being internally amongst other
8:04 responding entities and agencies, but
8:06 communication of course out to uh the
8:09 community at large. Um making sure that
8:11 they're aware of what's ever happening
8:12 and then really implementing our
8:14 emergency plans as we've written them up
8:16 in kind of that preparedness uh time of
8:18 the continuum.
8:21 um to break down what the role of
8:23 elected officials is are in an emergency
8:26 is uh first we're going to take a look
8:27 at the mayor. Um so the mayor is
8:30 ultimately uh they have the executive
8:32 leadership right of the city. So that is
8:35 their uh role identified within our
8:37 comprehensive emergency management plan.
8:40 Um they also have the ability to declare
8:43 uh a local emergency and exercise
8:45 emergency powers. Um, if you're
8:48 unfamiliar with some of those things
8:49 that uh get waved or uh or those
8:52 emergency powers, a couple examples of
8:55 them are uh the most common is like
8:56 waving uh competitive procurement
8:59 requirements, right? In an emergency, we
9:01 need things quickly and we don't always
9:03 have time to go through uh the full
9:05 process that we would have otherwise,
9:07 right, to procure these emergency life
9:10 safety uh resources. It helps us with
9:13 the immediate expedential of funds. Um
9:16 it helps with mutual aid unlocking uh
9:18 resources from other jurisdictions. Um
9:20 other things that can often be times
9:22 waved is like emergency overtime and
9:24 like normal leave approvals right for
9:26 city staff and uh also permitting.
9:29 Permitting is another huge section that
9:31 can be uh addressed with those emergency
9:33 powers. Uh lastly, the mayor is also
9:35 supporting in uh clearing barriers right
9:38 for emergency response. you know, if the
9:40 mayor can um lend their weight to making
9:43 things uh more efficient in in terms of
9:45 emergency response, whether it's working
9:47 with another uh jurisdiction or entity,
9:49 you know, that's uh that's something
9:51 that we look to them um to help us with.
9:55 Council's role is uh legislative and
9:58 elected continuity. So if the mayor is
10:01 unavailable for whatever reason, the
10:04 council president will serve then as in
10:07 the role of the mayor and the deputy
10:09 council president will move up to that
10:11 council president role. And so um that
10:14 is a very critical element, right, of
10:17 making sure that we as a city um aren't
10:20 left wondering, right, who is in charge.
10:22 And so, um, there's a time, right, where
10:25 you may be called upon to act in a role
10:27 that you may not currently have right
10:29 now on council for that reason. And so,
10:32 um, through the course of this training
10:34 exercise, right, like we want to make
10:36 sure that you're all thinking that way
10:38 too, right? That like you may be asked
10:40 to be making decisions that are outside
10:42 of your current um, wheelhouse as an
10:44 elected official.
10:46 Um, council is in charge of emergency
10:49 budget appropriations. And so, uh,
10:51 disasters, they're expensive. Um, they
10:54 cost a lot of money, right? And so,
10:57 council has a big role in making sure
10:59 that we can fund and actually pay for
11:01 these things and and really the
11:02 financial stewardship of the city uh, at
11:05 large. We'll talk about that a little
11:06 bit more um, as we go through the
11:08 exercise.
11:10 uh what they both are um responsible for
11:13 or both being uh the mayor and the
11:15 council is policy guidance. So there
11:17 will be issues that come up in our
11:20 response um or or potential paths that
11:23 we could pursue that either may be
11:26 costly or they may be um they may have
11:29 an optic to them or impact our residents
11:31 in a way that we as responders don't
11:34 feel comfortable making that decision by
11:37 ourselves. Right? And so we may look to
11:41 um look to you all to help us make those
11:44 decisions uh as representatives right of
11:46 the community. Next is uh advocating for
11:50 outside assistance right uh isqua as it
11:52 stands is not alone. We have plenty of
11:54 other jurisdictions who can support us
11:56 in many different ways. And sometimes,
11:58 you know, that takes advocacy, whether
12:00 it's, you know, sharing information
12:02 about what's happening here uh with
12:04 other elected officials and other
12:05 jurisdictions, you know, in the county,
12:07 the state, or otherwise. Um, we need to
12:10 tell the story of why we need support.
12:12 And, you know, that's something that
12:14 we've had to do before in the bomb
12:15 cyclone and and other recent events,
12:18 too. And so, this is it's a very key
12:20 function of uh electeds. And then
12:23 lastly, uh it's leazison leisoning with
12:25 the city administrator and deputy city
12:27 administrator during emergencies. So
12:30 that is your that is your primary way of
12:33 communication, right, of the back and
12:35 forth of information during an
12:37 emergency, right? So whether it's
12:39 something that we as responders need to
12:41 know about or whether it's something
12:43 that you all need to know about too, the
12:45 city administrator and WC administrator
12:47 are going to be that primary link if you
12:49 will to operations.
12:51 Jared, I have a question. In that
12:53 incident command structure system that
12:55 you described,
12:56 >> are there ever emergencies where city
12:58 staff are are the incident command
13:00 responder? And if so, do we have staff
13:02 that have taken that sort of training?
13:04 >> Yes, actually frequently. Um, our staff
13:06 will serve in that instant commander
13:08 role. Um, and yes, we do uh we do have
13:11 there is recognized training uh through
13:13 that instant command system that is
13:14 standardized. Um it's up to really the
13:17 courses like ICS 300 and 400 that
13:19 certifies someone to really be in that
13:21 role. And we do have a cadre of
13:23 individuals. Yeah. Of which I'm included
13:25 and a few others in this room um have
13:28 all taken that training.
13:30 >> Got it. Thank you.
13:31 >> Yeah. Um a couple things also I wanted
13:34 to highlight that isn't on this slide,
13:36 but the governor can actually wave some
13:38 other rules that um that we can't
13:40 otherwise here at the local um level.
13:43 And so that is a potential advocacy area
13:46 as well. So an example is the governor
13:48 can actually uh wave like commercial
13:50 driver hour restrictions. Um now you
13:52 might be wondering like what's that for?
13:53 Well like fuel delivery right for power
13:55 outages and things like that. There's
13:56 some really serious restrictions right
13:58 on like what how many hours people can
14:01 drive um for that thing for for that. Um
14:04 also like licensing requirements for
14:06 specific professions. There's quite a
14:07 few things where if we have um some laws
14:11 or regulations, right, that are really
14:13 barring us in response, those are
14:14 potential things that maybe the
14:16 governor, right, could potentially wave
14:18 as part of declaring an emergency and
14:20 just another advocacy lane uh for you
14:22 all if if the situation should arise.
14:24 Now, one last thing I do want to say too
14:26 about emergency powers, right, is it
14:28 doesn't suspend constitutional rights,
14:29 right? Eliminate the need for open and
14:31 public meetings, right? council comes
14:33 together uh doesn't suspend like
14:35 environmental regulations, building
14:37 codes, or you know, even allow for
14:38 unlimited spending, right? So, it's not
14:40 a magic wand. You know, there are
14:42 specific things that we can and cannot
14:44 do with those emergency powers and uh
14:47 the declaration of a local emergency.
14:49 So, just uh just wanted to highlight
14:51 that it's not, you know, end all be all,
14:53 right, for for really um some of these
14:55 very important things for our community.
14:59 Okay. To kind of parse this out a little
15:00 bit more. So, um, what's the difference
15:02 between a operational decision, right,
15:05 and a policy decision? So, what are some
15:07 of these decisions that staff and first
15:09 responders are going to be making as
15:11 opposed to what are some of the
15:12 decisions, right, that the mayor or city
15:13 council might be asked to either weigh
15:16 in on, right? And so some operational
15:18 decisions are where should resources be
15:20 deployed, which roads need to be closed,
15:23 how should evacu evacuation warnings be
15:25 delivered, uh once it's safe to reenter
15:27 an area, and uh what should be repaired
15:30 first in terms of infrastructure, right,
15:31 to get things going back uh online. Now,
15:34 some policy decisions is one, should the
15:36 city proclaim a local emergency to
15:38 unlock these emergencies emergency
15:40 authorities, right? We can't do that as
15:41 staff. Uh should the city establish a
15:44 community curve for you? Right? That's
15:45 another big decision that you all could
15:47 weigh or or or use as a tool. Uh should
15:50 the city council authorize emergency
15:52 spending uh to open additional shelters
15:54 or contract with hotels? Like that's
15:56 just an example, right, of one of those
15:57 situations where we say, you know, we
15:59 could either do it in a lowcost manner,
16:01 right? Or we could do something a little
16:03 bit more expensive. You know, do we have
16:05 the funds like are we willing to spend
16:06 the funds on something like that, right?
16:08 So those are some policy that's an
16:10 example of a policy decision we might
16:12 ask of of of you all. And then uh what
16:15 are the city's priorities really for
16:16 guiding recovery? Um we'll explore that
16:18 topic a little bit more, right? But
16:20 recovery can uh be a somewhat uh
16:22 difficult road to navigate. You know,
16:24 there's a lot of different competing
16:26 priorities. People will want different
16:28 things when it comes to um recovering
16:31 from a disaster. And so um we would
16:34 certainly need policy weighin on that.
16:37 All right. So now uh we're going to talk
16:39 about some lessons learned right from
16:41 other uh disasters that have happened
16:44 around the country and just some general
16:46 principles. So um this uh image that you
16:50 see in front of you here on the slide is
16:52 from the Maui wildfires in 2023. Now um
16:56 this was a exceedingly tragic wildfire.
16:58 102 people lost their life with over
17:00 2,200 buildings completely destroyed.
17:03 Um, and there was uh criticism from the
17:06 community uh during this incident
17:08 because the governor was um was a was
17:13 pretty silent to start this uh uh
17:15 incident off. He happened to actually be
17:17 or they happened to actually be at a
17:19 conference during the time of these
17:21 wildfires. And so the lieutenant
17:22 governor was actually the one in charge,
17:25 right? And so there was some confusion
17:27 around who who had the authority and for
17:30 that reason there was this gap in
17:32 communication which is was perceived
17:38 or uh even the sense that like you know
17:41 an ineffectual response right so that's
17:44 a huge takeaway is that when we um come
17:47 to an emergency or have a situation like
17:50 that we need to make sure that we know
17:52 who's in charge right that we're
17:53 speaking with one voice that we h really
17:56 have um a presence within the community,
18:00 right, when these things happen because
18:02 um otherwise, you know, the community
18:04 will will key into that, right? And
18:05 they'll kind of see that fractured uh
18:07 nature and specifically, you know, when
18:09 it comes to communication. We want to
18:10 make sure that we're sharing that same
18:12 me message and, you know, we don't have
18:14 elected officials from one jurisdiction,
18:16 you know, pointing the finger at the
18:18 other, you know, and saying, you know,
18:19 where were they or they didn't show up.
18:21 So, we're all in this together, right?
18:23 Is is really the main one of the main
18:25 lessons from that uh from that wildfire.
18:28 Uh the next is the Marshall wildfire in
18:30 2021. Uh so this was in Colorado. Um a
18:34 really fastmoving wildfire. Uh I think
18:37 on December 31st, it claimed the life of
18:39 two individuals and about a thousand
18:41 structures lost. And um the biggest
18:44 community criticism from this was really
18:46 recovery, it didn't start until much too
18:49 late, right? So, put yourselves in the
18:51 shoes of a community member, right? And
18:53 a wildfire, you learn that a wildfire
18:54 had burnt down your home 2 days, you
18:57 know, after you evacuate, right? And um
18:59 pretty quickly, you're going to want to
19:01 know what the future looks like for you,
19:03 right? Will you be able to rebuild on
19:06 your um will you be able to rebuild your
19:08 house? Is it safe to rebuild there? Um
19:11 you know, we don't want this to ever
19:13 happen again. So, what is the city doing
19:15 to to make sure it never does? You're
19:17 going to have a lot of questions, right?
19:18 And in this particular example,
19:20 residents were very frustrated um at the
19:24 city because there wasn't really a true
19:26 recovery plan put in place until uh far
19:29 too late. And so the community lost some
19:32 faith in the city, right, that they
19:34 could uh effectively manage recovery uh
19:37 following this wildfire. So uh the
19:39 lesson learned there is we need to think
19:41 about recovery even during response,
19:44 right? So even while you know the flood
19:46 waters are still high and the fire you
19:48 know is out there right and the after
19:50 the shaking's like stopped or maybe even
19:52 after the aftershock is going right like
19:54 we need to be thinking about recovery
19:56 and what that means for our community
19:57 and start putting our heads together
19:58 around this topic um because people are
20:01 going to demand information quickly.
20:04 Um, next is the uh the Black Summer
20:07 Fires in Australia, which you know,
20:09 we're joined by uh deputy administrator
20:11 Autumn, who was actually there uh
20:13 visiting one of the communities, right,
20:15 post wildfire, who had some great
20:17 takeaways um from what uh recovery
20:20 looked like for them and just the
20:22 long-term nature of how long recovery
20:24 takes, right? It took it takes years. Um
20:27 it's not uh it's not a short-term thing
20:30 and in some cases right the the
20:32 government there had to really
20:34 reconsider what their priority was in
20:37 some cases even ending programs to um to
20:40 in favor of recovery programs. We'll
20:42 talk a little bit more about that later
20:44 in the tabletop exercise. Autumn maybe
20:46 could share some some more of the
20:47 nuggets from there. Um but it is um
20:51 again yeah recovery is a is an ordeal
20:54 that is um it takes a lot of it takes a
20:56 lot of thought. Um, a couple other
20:59 common pitfalls that weren't necessarily
21:01 highlighted by uh these incidents, but
21:04 um I just want to bring up uh from from
21:07 others is one that um a a potential
21:10 barrier, right? Is a when an elected
21:13 official may call the incident commander
21:15 directly to request a change in tactics,
21:18 right? That's something that can cause a
21:20 stumbling block in terms of the
21:22 response, right? Because um we want to
21:24 keep those lanes identified, right? keep
21:26 the responders thinking about the
21:27 response and policy makers thinking
21:29 about policy because um imagine right if
21:33 um you you know you you all have um you
21:36 you all live here right and so if you
21:39 see firet trucks you know defending one
21:41 street perhaps right and if you request
21:43 a change you know where those fire
21:45 trucks are right those decisions were
21:47 made based on a risk assessment and with
21:50 a tactical response in mind right and so
21:53 um we just want to make sure that we
21:54 keep those lanes separate it and make
21:56 sure that uh it doesn't create any
21:58 complications because a responder may
21:59 feel pressure, right, to adjust tactics
22:02 to to meet those uh requests, you know,
22:05 and that might not always be in the best
22:06 interest for the community at large. So,
22:08 that's one common pitfall. Uh sharing
22:11 unofficial information is also another
22:14 uh common pit pitfall when it comes to
22:16 the relationship between uh responders
22:18 and policy makers, right? Again, that
22:21 just kind of speaks to the um nature of
22:23 one needing one unified voice, right?
22:25 You all are going to have uh access to
22:27 information that no one else in the
22:29 community will have access to, right?
22:31 And we have uh a joint information
22:33 center is what it's called. It's an
22:35 element of our emergency operations
22:37 center that really coordinates that
22:39 public communication, right? Like what's
22:41 approved for um for releasing out to the
22:44 public. And that's just to make sure
22:46 right that um nothing uh either gets
22:49 shared that isn't verified right or that
22:52 it's uh shared at the right time like
22:54 take for example you know if we have an
22:56 issue at one of our water reservoirs or
22:58 one of our water towers and you know we
23:00 think we might lose pressure in the
23:02 system but you know um and so that gets
23:05 shared right that we might lose water
23:06 pressure everyone's going to fill up
23:08 their bathtubs right which will only
23:10 make that issue uh uh worse right but oh
23:13 good news 30 minutes later we have an
23:15 emergency generator ready to hook up on
23:17 to it. No problem. You know what I mean?
23:19 And so all that to say, right, um share
23:22 making sure that we share that
23:23 information when we're ready to share it
23:25 is is important. And and the JIC um I'm
23:28 pointing towards Autumn because Autumn
23:30 often times is our JIC leader, right?
23:32 But you all are also a very powerful
23:35 tool when it does come to public
23:37 communication too, right? like you have
23:39 access to community and groups that like
23:42 we want to make sure that get this
23:44 information right, but we just need to
23:46 make sure it's like at the right the
23:47 right time and with the uh right
23:48 approved message, if you will. Um
23:52 lastly, uh this one is um visiting
23:54 dangerous areas without coordination,
23:55 right? Don't get too close to the
23:57 incident without uh giving us a a heads
23:59 up. You know, we don't want to make sure
24:01 that uh a rescue mission has to happen
24:03 for for any of you all. And then of
24:06 course, you know, promises about
24:07 timelines can also be a challenging um
24:09 thing, right? Like we want to make sure
24:11 kind of that same that same uh
24:13 communication theme that we were just
24:15 talking about. Timelines is like very a
24:18 very common burn point for um for local
24:21 responders, right? And for city
24:23 governments where, you know, we may not
24:25 know the full extent of damages or how
24:27 long it's actually going to take to to
24:29 recover, for example. And so if we make
24:31 too many promises, you know, people are
24:32 going to stop trusting our word, right,
24:34 if we can't meet those those timelines.
24:36 So all that to say, those are just some
24:38 of the high level um lessons learned
24:40 that we've learned from other
24:41 jurisdictions and other community. You
24:43 know, we've had some major disasters in
24:45 the few years that I've been here
24:47 already. And you know, I'm really uh
24:49 proud to say that like Isqua City
24:50 Council has done incredible job in those
24:54 responses. you know there there is
24:56 actually no afteraction items like
24:58 calling out any of these pitfalls right
25:00 so you all have done a really good job
25:03 uh in the past all that to say but I
25:05 still wanted to highlight them just to
25:06 make sure right that we do are we are
25:09 aware of them um so we don't have to
25:11 make those mistakes and um and learn
25:13 from them if you will okay last thing I
25:16 want to touch on because this is
25:17 something that uh frequently comes up in
25:19 disasters right is what are the types of
25:22 uh resources specifically financially
25:24 available to the city and its residents
25:27 following a disaster. So, uh we're going
25:30 to start first with federal support. So,
25:32 FEMA public assistance is probably the
25:35 most uh common requested form of
25:38 financial uh support following a major
25:41 disaster. And so, public assistance is
25:43 kind of a tricky term because uh public
25:46 in this sense actually means government.
25:48 Um so, it's like FEMA government
25:50 assistance, if you will. So, this type
25:52 of assistance helps us recapture our
25:54 costs in an emergency. It also helps us
25:57 uh fund the repair and restoration of
25:59 our infrastructure. Um there's typically
26:02 a federal cost share or there is a
26:04 federal cost share element to it. They
26:06 take 75% of that cost and cover um
26:10 whatever it is for for um the damages.
26:12 We take the other 25%. Sometimes the
26:15 state has kicked in 12.5% of that local
26:18 damage uh local share of that cost
26:21 allocation that 25% but that's something
26:23 that's a little bit in question as state
26:26 budget um issues have have um deepened
26:29 if you will. So all that to say um it is
26:32 a huge aid for us um if we can get
26:36 public assistance. So, uh, to qualify
26:39 for public assistance, King County needs
26:41 to have public damages totaling in a
26:44 little over $11 million. And then
26:47 statewide, we need at least about $15
26:49 million. And so, if we can have recorded
26:52 public damage of $15 million about in
26:55 the state and 11 in King County, then we
26:57 get a presidentially declared disaster,
26:59 which unlocks these funds. We got this
27:02 for the severe flooding in December. Um
27:05 but we did not get this for the bomb
27:07 cyclone if you all might remember that
27:09 was something that we um and you all I
27:11 know tried you know very hardly to lend
27:13 your voice to um unlocking those federal
27:15 dollars but you know um unfortunately we
27:18 did not receive them. So again that is
27:20 something that we we look to as a huge
27:22 uh financial support for the city to
27:24 recover city government to recover. Um
27:26 FEMA individual assistance is um that
27:29 funds that actually help people recover.
27:32 there is um no set formula for how that
27:35 is uh delivered. So generally there is a
27:39 rule of thumb where if you have a few
27:40 hundred homes uh destroyed, that's
27:42 typically when FEMA will actually start
27:44 issuing um uh some recovery funds to
27:47 survivors. Uh Small Business
27:49 Administration disaster assistance loans
27:51 are probably the most common form of
27:53 federal aid following a disaster. Uh
27:55 they're essentially yeah low interest
27:56 loans that help businesses and um res or
28:01 uh even um h like uh residents uh
28:04 nonprofits all uh recover, right? You
28:07 can use those loans to rebuild. Um
28:09 they're usually I think right now I
28:10 checked today they're like 2.8% is the
28:13 interest rate on those loans. There's a
28:15 formula for having uh damages there that
28:17 you can see at the bottom of the screen.
28:18 And like I said it's a very common
28:20 threshold that we hit. Other programs,
28:23 uh, the Department of Health and Human
28:24 Services has a program, same with the
28:27 Department of Agriculture, and then
28:28 Washington State Individual Assistance
28:30 is much like FEMA individual assistance,
28:32 a um state program that uh helps
28:35 financial um that helps uh lowincome and
28:38 vulnerable populations recoup the costs
28:40 of uh surviving this disaster. So, um
28:44 with that, that was my final slide
28:45 before we get into the tabletop. I know
28:48 council member Boyd had a few questions
28:49 that you sent in an email uh to to me
28:52 today. So I'm happy to just address
28:54 those um now if you will. Um is that all
28:57 right, Council President Marts? Okay,
28:59 please.
28:59 >> Okay, great. So uh I believe the first
29:02 question pertained to that Washington
29:05 state individual assistance fund and uh
29:07 whether the long-term health of it is um
29:10 is viable as you know much of it was
29:13 depleted during the December flooding um
29:15 for this most recent Yeah. flooding
29:17 incident that we had here in western
29:18 Washington and and I would say the same
29:21 thing you know is um I'm I'm unclear
29:24 personally if you know the state will
29:26 have budget for it. It is kind of a
29:27 notorious difficult bar to reach for
29:30 vulnerable populations to actually get
29:32 those funds. Um I know it's uh sometimes
29:35 been unders subscribed for that reason
29:37 um in some of these major incidents but
29:39 you know that's something that you know
29:41 obviously we um we'll be watching
29:43 carefully because it is a great resource
29:45 right to some of our most vulnerable um
29:47 residents.
29:48 Uh the next question pertained to um an
29:51 element of our comprehensive emergency
29:53 management uh plan that called out the
29:56 um essentially there is provisions in
29:58 there to allow residents to support us
30:01 in emergency response. And so what this
30:04 speaks to is Washington state has an
30:06 emergency worker program of which we use
30:09 um residents who have training um in our
30:13 community emergency response team teams
30:16 to like learn some advanced disaster
30:17 skills. It allows them to support us in
30:20 our disaster response while being
30:23 protected under Washington State LNI
30:25 actually. So, it's a great program that
30:27 allows um people who who do want to help
30:29 the city to help us while also not
30:32 putting themselves uh in jeopardy. And
30:35 then um your final question was about
30:37 what are we doing to uh prepare and
30:39 provide for people's um mental health
30:42 during uh disasters, right? And uh what
30:44 are some of the programs that we have?
30:46 Well, uh we have an initiative called
30:48 Resilience Hubs here in Isiqua. They're
30:50 a group of community uh groups that are
30:54 active in really disasters and the
30:56 community. Uh we've recently done some
30:58 disaster mental health uh first aid
31:00 training with some of those members to
31:02 equip more staff and community members
31:04 with just a baseline knowledge of um of
31:07 how to help one another during um during
31:09 disasters. Additionally, our human
31:11 services department or division has been
31:14 exceedingly helpful in disasters just
31:16 with this very thing. during the bomb
31:18 cyclone at these resilience hubs, we had
31:20 some of those human services uh staff
31:22 members there and just kind of providing
31:24 on the on the ground counseling, you
31:26 know, and just anecdotally, we heard
31:27 from a lot of residents that, you know,
31:29 that was maybe the best part of of the
31:32 bomb cyclone was just that togetherness,
31:34 that ability to talk to one another in
31:36 those resilience hubs and really just
31:38 share, right, in this um really crazy
31:41 event, right, that was happening uh in
31:43 the city. So, hopefully that answers
31:44 your question. If you need any more
31:45 information on any of them, I'm happy to
31:47 Yeah. Uh share.
31:50 >> Thank you so much. No, that covers it.
31:52 Appreciate it. Great.
31:53 >> Council member Walsh.
31:55 >> Thank you. I have a few questions,
31:57 Jared. Um I'll start with the resilience
32:00 hubs. Um I noticed they're not
32:02 specifically mentioned in the CMP. It's
32:06 kind of become a practice and something
32:08 that the community relies on. Um, do we
32:12 have a sense of like how we make that
32:15 official and whether or not when a
32:19 resilience hub would be launched, how
32:22 they would be staffed, things like that?
32:25 >> Yeah, that's a that's a great question.
32:26 That's actually um so we are in the
32:28 process of updating this comprehensive
32:30 emergency management plan that's uh
32:31 actually on the work plan for this year
32:33 for emergency management. I actually
32:35 hope to take some of the lessons that we
32:36 learned from this uh tabletop exercise,
32:38 right, and plug them in to make our CMP
32:41 even better. But uh one of the things
32:43 that will be added is resilience hubs.
32:45 And so um we also um beyond the CMP, we
32:49 also have a resilience hub partner
32:51 partner guide that um helps these hubs
32:54 really understand how to be operational,
32:57 staff themselves, right? Some of their
32:59 own internal challenges uh during
33:02 emergencies. And so we that's one of our
33:04 main things that we work with them on
33:05 honestly is just getting their own um
33:08 organizations like prepared right to to
33:10 be active uh within them. When we do
33:13 activate, we also have a landing page
33:15 online that kind of highlights some of
33:16 the things and the amenities at them. Um
33:19 when they do become official resilience
33:21 hubs, we add them onto that landing
33:22 page. Um but it is something that we do
33:24 want to continuously share with
33:26 community, right? That they are aware of
33:28 these resources and just make sure that
33:30 we open them up, right? um as as
33:32 frequently as possible when we do have
33:34 yeah disasters and the like.
33:36 >> Okay. Um can you talk to us a little bit
33:40 about the EOC? Yeah.
33:42 >> Um where it is, when it gets launched,
33:45 and how council members get updates from
33:48 that. I've been very impressed with um
33:51 your updates off of that and um city
33:54 administrator Bob Quit's making sure
33:55 that we are kept informed. But I think
33:57 it would be good in advance of an
34:00 emergency for everybody to know um what
34:02 that looks like.
34:03 >> Yeah, absolutely. No, great great
34:05 question. Yeah, so the EOC um it lives
34:08 currently at Isqua Public Works. Um it's
34:10 one so the advantage of the EOCC is it's
34:12 one location, right, where all
34:14 responders can come together and be in
34:16 one space physically um but also
34:19 virtually. Now we do have a virtual
34:20 component on Teams, right? because it is
34:22 albeit a bit of an unders sized room for
34:25 the size of staff and number of staff
34:26 that we have now. Um but there you know
34:29 you'll find representatives from every
34:31 department within the city and
34:32 oftentimes partners like East Side Fire
34:34 and Rescue who are key to to the
34:37 response. So uh in the EOC you'll find
34:40 um multiple what we call sections. One
34:43 focuses strictly on operations. One is
34:46 planning for the next operational
34:48 period. Uh one section is tracking the
34:50 finance like how much we're spending. Um
34:53 another section logistics is ordering
34:55 the goods that we use. And then um as
34:58 we've mentioned the joint information
35:00 center is also in that EOC where you
35:03 know they're thinking about what
35:04 information we can get out to the public
35:06 scheduling press conferences and the
35:08 like. Um was that all the elements of
35:11 your question?
35:12 >> How does council get updated?
35:15 >> Yes, definitely. So, you know, like I I
35:16 mentioned, the city administrator and
35:18 the deputy city administrator are really
35:20 uh your best link to that information.
35:22 Every incident's a little different,
35:23 right? Like some require more um I would
35:26 say probably more involvement, right? Or
35:28 less uh from council depending on what's
35:30 happening. Um so it can come in a
35:32 variety of ways, right? whether it's an
35:34 email update, you know, in some cases or
35:36 um as I mentioned, yeah, really uh
35:39 Wall-E and Autumn are the best people to
35:42 kind of address like how that
35:43 information will come depending on that
35:45 situation. While you have some add
35:47 >> uh thank you, Council Member Walsh,
35:49 members of the council, good evening.
35:51 Um, you know, we're committed to make
35:53 sure you have information first. So, as
35:56 soon as we know something has happened,
35:58 uh depending on the time of day and
36:00 depending on the severity, we're going
36:01 to get a hold of you, uh via text
36:04 message, via a phone call, just to say
36:06 something has happened. Uh and then I
36:08 think as Jared has mentioned, then we're
36:10 kind of off to individual different uh
36:13 um events depending on what's going on.
36:15 Uh but you have uh the mayor's
36:17 commitment, the administration's
36:18 commitment uh to keep you posted. Uh, as
36:21 you know, we do operational uh update
36:24 meetings with the EOC uh usually about
36:26 twice a day uh sometimes more
36:28 frequently. Uh, and we're committed uh
36:30 to making that information available to
36:32 you as soon as possible after that. Uh,
36:34 and then really it just kind of depends.
36:36 Uh, but the the real watch word for us
36:38 is uh we don't want you uh to be in the
36:41 community with neighbors asking you
36:43 what's going on and you not having the
36:44 latest information. We don't want you to
36:46 turn on the television and see something
36:48 that uh you haven't already heard about.
36:51 Uh and that goes with, you know, natural
36:54 uh things like snowstorms and rain
36:56 events that may not rise to this level.
36:58 Uh but if we know there's going to be
37:00 community concern or any kind of press,
37:02 uh we want to make sure you have it
37:04 first.
37:06 >> Great. And that's been my experience. So
37:09 it's it's working well. Um Jared, can
37:12 you talk about any practice or um ways
37:16 that you try and make sure that we are
37:20 prepared for emergencies? Um because
37:23 obviously you don't want to be doing the
37:24 training in the middle of an emergency.
37:26 So what does that look like for the
37:29 emergency management group and how often
37:32 does it happen?
37:33 >> Yeah, you know, our goal right now is to
37:35 have one annual exercise. Um, we've
37:38 actually had, as I've mentioned, a few
37:40 disasters here, um, locally that have
37:42 caused us to activate our EOC, which
37:44 happen to be, you know, the best way to,
37:46 of course, you know, learn those skills.
37:48 Um, we're working on creating a more
37:50 evergreen training system, too. Right?
37:52 So, outside of those exercises, creating
37:54 some online uh resources, right, to
37:57 where if people are deployed to the EOC,
38:00 they can watch videos and such, right?
38:01 to become uh like a just in time
38:03 training is kind of what we what we tag
38:05 it on as. Um but yeah, making sure our
38:08 staff is prepared for for whatever
38:10 emergency it is is is very that's a it's
38:13 a big part of what our emergency
38:15 management program is is focused on. Um
38:18 so yeah,
38:19 >> great. Thank you.
38:20 >> Yeah,
38:22 >> Council Member Joe,
38:24 >> thank you. Uh Jared, thank you for the
38:26 presentation. It was um very uh
38:29 informational and in depth. appreciate
38:31 that. Um, citizen emergency response
38:34 team. Um, how many uh, individuals do we
38:38 have participating in that? And could
38:40 you talk a little bit about how they are
38:43 deployed if it were a city-wide
38:45 incident? Um, you know, are there two in
38:48 each zone or however you put it
38:50 together? Or if it's just a a creek
38:53 incident, let's say the main stem of
38:55 Isqua Creek, how would they be deployed
38:57 in that particular case?
38:58 >> Yeah. No. Uh, great questions. So, our,
39:01 uh, community emergency response team,
39:04 uh, we've had about 2,000 people receive
39:06 the training over the course of its, uh,
39:08 inception. Now, how many of them are
39:10 active is around 250ish,
39:14 we would say, and then about 90 are
39:17 registered as uh, what are called
39:19 permanent emergency workers. So speaking
39:22 that uh kind of LNI protection status,
39:24 right? We can actually pre-register
39:26 people um to make sure that they have
39:28 that even before a disaster happens. And
39:30 so those I would say those 90 are truly
39:32 our most dedicated uh core when it comes
39:35 to uh C um and their activities. Now uh
39:39 with that being said, we are offering
39:41 many more courses and trainings than
39:44 we've ever had um in the past and we are
39:46 seeing just such high demand for them
39:49 honestly from the community. We have
39:50 weight lists for every single class that
39:52 we that we have and that we put on. Um
39:55 and so it is something that the yeah
39:57 that the community is certainly I there
40:00 is there is a desire for more engagement
40:02 there I would say and um so it's a it's
40:05 been a great resource for us as a city
40:08 and bolstering our response uh where
40:10 they are. Um for that reason we have you
40:12 know many throughout all the different
40:13 neighborhoods. It's actually speaking to
40:15 one of our long-term plans is like we I
40:18 hope to have a resilience hub uh and
40:20 walking distance from every community
40:22 member in Isiqua, right? That's the
40:25 goal. And so since these C members are
40:28 all Isqua residents, the goal is that
40:31 they will get familiar with their
40:33 nearest resilience hub and then say
40:36 there's an earthquake, right? they they
40:38 can deploy to their nearest resilience
40:40 hub and serve as like an emergency uh
40:42 shelter worker if you will or help at
40:44 that site, right? To to help people get
40:46 back on their feet with just those base
40:47 emergency needs. Uh each of those sites
40:49 is also we're working on getting
40:50 resilient communication in all them. So
40:52 we'll be able to contact uh make contact
40:54 with them in the EOC. And so um yeah, we
40:56 have them everywhere, right, which is
40:58 great. And so uh we're building those
41:00 bridges between the resilience hubs and
41:02 searchs to ser to serve as that surge
41:03 force. And so um we're we're really
41:06 excited about kind of the future
41:07 evolution of that of that bringing those
41:09 two great programs together in that way.
41:11 In terms of call out, we use um we will
41:15 have them we call them out really when
41:17 there is um a need, right? That kind of
41:20 exceeds the capability of our own
41:21 internal staff. That isn't necessarily
41:24 something overly technical, if you will,
41:26 right? Like we're not asking, you know,
41:28 them to go out there and dig fire lines,
41:30 right, during a wildfire or, you know,
41:32 conduct traffic. Um so the way in which
41:35 we call them out is typically via uh we
41:37 have an internal alerting system called
41:39 code red. We'll send it out over that.
41:41 We also turn on a radio system um
41:44 established by some of our uh really
41:46 great radio volunteers that can direct
41:48 individuals to wherever you know the
41:51 site is or wherever we need help in a
41:53 large scale catastrophic emergency. But
41:56 then also you know kind of the more
41:57 traditional emails and text to right we
42:00 we do have access to all that system as
42:02 well those systems as well. Great. Thank
42:04 you. It's nice to hear that we have such
42:05 a a wide core of people that are willing
42:08 to step up in an emergency.
42:10 >> Yeah.
42:10 >> Deputy Council President Chang.
42:12 >> Great. Um well, thanks so much Jared for
42:14 this presentation and I think I just
42:16 want to uh you know dive in a bit more
42:19 on some of the answers you gave to
42:20 Council Member Joe just now. Um
42:22 specifically, I'm really interested in
42:23 this concept of having resilience hubs
42:25 in every neighborhood. Um, so I'm
42:27 curious, you know, how many we have now
42:29 and how many you think we'd have in this
42:31 future state and, you know, with CERT
42:34 volunteers, what's the distribution we
42:36 have of them currently, right? Do we
42:38 have them evenly distributed in some
42:39 neighborhoods? Are there some
42:40 neighborhoods that have more than
42:41 others?
42:42 >> Um, but I'll start with those two and
42:43 then I have a few more.
42:44 >> Okay, great. Yeah. So, we we have about
42:47 seven locations right now that are
42:49 identified as resilience hubs and um
42:52 three of which are cityowned um sites
42:54 and four of which are community partner
42:57 uh owned organizations. And so, uh it's
43:00 a it's a fairly good network. I would
43:02 say we have um we have pretty good
43:05 coverage in the city. Where we're
43:06 missing right now is actually more on uh
43:09 the west side of the city. So we're
43:10 missing um one in Talis if you will,
43:13 Montro and South Cove, kind of that
43:15 area, one to serve uh that those
43:17 neighborhoods. Those are that's kind of
43:19 our gap area right now. And so that's
43:21 something that you know um this is a
43:23 joint project with sustainability um and
43:25 that we're working on to to make some of
43:28 those partnerships there and uh get
43:30 establish more sites there. Um, in terms
43:33 of distribution, when we've done uh when
43:35 we've done a study of it, it it pretty
43:36 much mirrors actually like where the
43:39 density is in Isiqua of where our
43:41 searchs are, right? So, up in the
43:42 highlands, we have a lot we have a good
43:44 amount in Talis. Um, a good amount down
43:46 here, you know, in Oldtown. Um, uh, a
43:49 really strong core up in Providence
43:51 Point as well. Um, we got some really,
43:53 uh, passionate volunteers up there. Um,
43:55 that's where one of the resilient hubs
43:57 is as well is Providence Point, so it
43:59 makes sense. Um but yeah, that's kind of
44:01 where where they all are typically.
44:05 >> Cool. And then um I guess I had a
44:07 question on you know, do we do stuff to
44:09 keep cert volunteers engaged during
44:12 non-emergency times?
44:13 >> Yeah, absolutely. And that's um you know
44:15 that's one of the the fun things that we
44:17 do try to do or one of the fun parts of
44:19 the program, right? We try to deliver
44:21 supplemental trainings. Um we've
44:23 recently even been doing some
44:24 appreciation nights uh for them which is
44:26 great. we get them um an annual
44:28 appreciation uh event where it actually
44:30 recognizes how many hours they've
44:32 volunteered. We're uh partnering with
44:34 other jurisdictions too when they have
44:36 emergencies uh of actually making um our
44:39 C members available as a resource uh to
44:42 them uh if they're registered emergency
44:43 workers. Uh so for example, we've been
44:46 working a lot with search and rescue um
44:48 lately, King County Search and Rescue
44:50 and getting some of our uh members out
44:52 there, right? because uh our members
44:54 really want to use their skills, right?
44:56 Which is which is pretty great. And so
44:58 if we can find them more opportunities
45:00 like that, we will um long-term goals.
45:03 We also are trying to have like monthly
45:04 engagements where they get supplemental
45:06 trainings, whether it's guest speakers
45:07 or the like. But you know, just
45:09 currently um we don't exactly have CERT
45:13 is very like volunteer um powered too,
45:16 right? So, I want to say, you know,
45:18 often times it takes individual members
45:20 stepping up to make kind of additional
45:21 things happen with our with our just our
45:23 current level of resources, you know,
45:25 here in our emergency management
45:27 program, but CR is really volunteer uh
45:29 powered, which we have some incredible
45:31 volunteers in there that help Yeah. with
45:33 that stuff, too.
45:34 >> Awesome. Thank you.
45:35 >> Yeah.
45:37 you mentioned earlier um legal jeopardy
45:40 and um I had a question around what is
45:44 so I'm this is just my own interest I'm
45:47 a voter right and so voters are required
45:49 by law to respond if they're in a
45:52 response area around an an ongoing
45:54 emergency and they're shielded by the
45:56 good Samaritan law um for for the legal
45:59 ramifications of being part of the
46:01 emergency response. What is what is that
46:04 more generally in the in the public if
46:06 we had an emergency tomorrow? There are
46:08 folks who are part of there are folks
46:09 who have structured roles in the city,
46:12 but there's also folks that are just
46:13 that will just be responding to their
46:15 neighbors and to you know go fill
46:18 sandbags, right? There was a there was a
46:20 sandbag activity back in December for
46:22 instance. Yeah.
46:22 >> Right. And so what is the what is the
46:25 legal jeopardy legal framework around
46:28 like the good Samaritan law and others
46:30 in responding to emergency situations?
46:32 So, so when the public can understand
46:35 when they should feel free to go ahead
46:36 and and and be generous and be involved
46:40 in these emergencies and when they
46:41 should step back and you know,
46:43 >> right,
46:44 >> be more cautious.
46:45 >> Yeah, great great question. And so, you
46:47 know, it's within your training, right,
46:49 is kind of the caveat of that uh Good
46:51 Samaritan law, right? So, if you um if
46:55 you're performing CPR, for example,
46:57 right, on someone that you've and you've
46:58 never had training for CPR, right, that
47:00 could be a potential uh issue. Now, you
47:03 know, um for a lot of things that we're
47:06 asking, you know, or neighborly
47:08 activities, you know, for whether it's
47:10 helping someone load up their car,
47:13 right, for a wildfire evacuation or
47:15 such, right? That's that's all covered
47:16 within the Good Samaritan law. And like
47:18 you drop their vase or something like
47:20 that, right? that's that are things that
47:22 are protected right cuz that is within
47:23 your um common you know understanding
47:26 knowledge right your competencies right
47:28 can you carry something and so you know
47:30 I don't want to make it sound like there
47:32 is very many barriers but for some more
47:34 more of the advanced things I would say
47:36 right like uh there is that that caveat
47:39 within the good Samaritan law now for
47:41 our operations right in which the
47:44 sandbagging um example is a great one so
47:47 if we have members of the public who are
47:50 interested in supporting us in um
47:52 emergency response. We can actually
47:54 register them as temporary emergency
47:56 workers is what it's called. And they
47:58 are given those same protections of LNI
48:01 and and a broader span of um of uh
48:05 protection from legal uh issues that may
48:07 arise by getting registered. So we
48:09 actually registered quite a few people
48:10 just temporarily um during that
48:13 sandbagging uh incident. And like the
48:14 bomb cycle, we had those community
48:16 cleanup events, right? We would every
48:18 every time we had one of those, I think
48:20 we registered about five or six people.
48:21 And so if we do um want to, right, if we
48:25 do have an instant where we want we have
48:27 like a high volunteer rate, right, from
48:29 the community that want to help out, um
48:31 we can we can certainly register them to
48:33 make sure that they're covered and that
48:34 we can, you know, uh let neighbors help
48:37 neighbors um to some extent. So yeah,
48:41 >> great. Thank you. Any follow on
48:43 questions?
48:46 >> All right. I guess not. I guess we're
48:48 ready to move into CM O293 then
48:52 executive or emergency management
48:54 tabletop exercise.
49:20 Sounds good.
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