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City Council Committee of the Whole Auto captions

Monday, June 27, 2022

7:00 PM · 2h 29m · Council Chambers, 135 E. Sunset Way, Issaquah WA
Topic tracked across meetings:
Community Investment Strategy Direct Administration [60 min.] AB 8422 3/4
2. AGENDA ITEMS
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Public Comment Public comment on individual agenda items will also be accepted following Council Q&A
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Community Investment Strategy ID 1141
90 min · Andrea Snyder, Deputy City Administrator · packet pp.34
Staff report:
4. What is the City Council feedback regarding spending down ending fund balance and the additional proposed positions?
0:13 welcome everyone I council president
0:16 Walsh call the June 27th
0:20 committee meeting of the whole meeting
0:23 to order
0:25 there are multiple public comment
0:26 opportunities at tonight's meeting there
0:28 is a general public comment opportunity
0:30 at the beginning of the meeting or you
0:33 can make comments after the presentation
0:35 and counsel question and answer period
0:37 on tonight's agenda items
0:39 members of the public May address
0:40 council at this time in person or
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1:02 participant panel and choose the raise
1:04 hand icon in the lower right hand corner
1:08 we do not have anyone in the room
1:10 tonight but I will go ahead and wait a
1:13 moment to see if anybody wishes to raise
1:16 their hand virtually and clerk did
1:19 anyone sign up to speak or indicate a
1:21 desire to speak this evening
1:24 council president no one signed up in
1:26 advance and I'm monitoring we do have a
1:28 few members of the public on the line
1:30 with us I'm just taking a quick look
1:32 here but I'm not seeing that anyone's
1:34 indicating a desire to speak at this
1:35 time
1:37 okay thank you clerk Geezer
1:39 um as a reminder written comments can be
1:41 submitted at any time to city council at
1:45 issaquah.gov and we will also have
1:48 another public comment period after our
1:50 question and answer period I did receive
1:54 two emails from the community on the
1:58 topic of tonight's agenda so I'll
2:00 summarize those quickly now one was
2:03 focused on the icap the Issaquah climate
2:08 action plan and wanted us to
2:13 basically use the funding and add some
2:17 funding to get the items done from the
2:19 Issaquah climate plan
2:21 and then another was supportive of
2:26 the proposal and very excited about the
2:31 I-90 under over Crossing and the related
2:33 Light Rail and appreciated the focus on
2:36 that and so those were the community
2:38 comments that we received for tonight's
2:42 agenda item
2:44 and let's see looking back up at the
2:48 agenda we have one other item on our
2:51 agenda tonight that is ID 1141 the
2:54 community investment strategy this will
2:56 be presented by Andrea Snyder Deputy
2:58 City administrator and mayor mayor Mary
3:01 Lou Polly will be introducing the topic
3:10 thank you council president Walsh
3:13 and good evening council members staff
3:15 and members of the community it's kind
3:18 of fun to address you from down here
3:19 instead of up there
3:22 tonight you will begin a very important
3:24 Dialogue on how the Issaquah Community
3:27 will invest the funds from the American
3:29 Rescue plan act this Federal allocation
3:32 does come with restrictions on how it
3:34 can be invested in brief they can apply
3:37 to projects or programs that have been
3:39 harmed by the covid-19 pandemic or to
3:42 advance lagging infrastructure needs
3:44 within our communities
3:46 as a community we have made some very
3:49 difficult decisions over the last two
3:51 years plus
3:52 and we have prudently invested the cares
3:55 act Federal funding in a manner that
3:56 provided stabilization during one of the
3:59 largest threats to health and life in
4:01 our community's history
4:03 I am proud of the hard decisions that
4:05 were made to ensure that we were staying
4:07 safe
4:08 and working to stay financially
4:10 sustainable
4:12 I am also proud that we were able to
4:13 partner with others in providing
4:15 life-saving vaccines and Recovery Care
4:17 directly in this city
4:20 the vaccine partnership with the
4:22 snoquami tribe and Eastside fire and
4:24 rescue provided easier access to those
4:28 in our community
4:29 to life-saving vaccines I'm proud of our
4:33 partnership with King County
4:35 on the covid recovery center that
4:37 allowed hundreds who could not
4:39 quarantine to have a place to isolate
4:41 and safely recover I know it feels like
4:44 a long time ago but the reality is that
4:46 the vaccine partnership started in
4:48 August of last year not even one year
4:50 ago and the covert Recovery Center wound
4:53 down last September it feels like a
4:56 lifetime ago
4:57 cities around the country will have
4:59 varying plans for the use of arpa funds
5:01 many will replace lost public sector
5:03 revenues use it for hazard pay hire back
5:07 employees that were laid off use it for
5:10 premium pay provision of additional
5:12 public health and safety activities or
5:15 capital and infrastructure expenditures
5:17 most cities will likely select a variety
5:19 of all of the above depending on their
5:21 City's particular needs
5:23 I'm proposing a list of items tonight to
5:25 council that invests in capital and
5:28 infrastructure projects plus one of the
5:30 major game changers in transportation
5:32 and mobility in Issaquah the addition of
5:34 Light Rail to our transportation choices
5:36 and an additional under Crossing of I-90
5:40 tonight the council will also discuss
5:42 how to spend down the ending fund
5:44 balance and make the investments in the
5:46 community's number one stated concern
5:47 transportation
5:50 later this summer Council will also
5:51 begin discussions on the 23-24 budget by
5:54 providing the administration with
5:55 recommend recommendations on how to
5:58 invest in all of our community
5:59 priorities and move the needle on the
6:02 city-wide strategic planning goals and I
6:04 believe this event is planned for July
6:06 your discussions tonight provide a
6:09 historical opportunity to give our
6:11 community a shot in the arm to move the
6:13 needle on capital projects and
6:15 infrastructure I am looking forward to
6:17 hearing the discussion and I'm available
6:18 tonight for any questions on the draft
6:20 investment plan I'll turn it now over to
6:22 Deputy City administrator Andrea Snyder
6:24 for the presentation
6:29 thank you mayor Polly a good evening
6:32 members of council
6:34 just one second while I share the
6:37 presentation
6:48 okay
6:53 good evening again I'm Andrea Snyder I'm
6:56 the deputy City administrator and
6:59 tonight we are talking about the
7:01 community investment strategy this is
7:03 also a follow-up to previous Council
7:05 discussions that we've had relating to
7:07 the Capital Finance Community task force
7:10 and their recommendations and how we can
7:12 Implement their recommendations they
7:14 provided
7:16 so we have a number of questions for you
7:18 tonight and seeking direction for a
7:21 number of policy decisions if we can't
7:24 get the through all of them tonight we
7:26 do have additional time on July 5th for
7:29 this conversation to continue but we'll
7:30 get as far as we can this evening so
7:32 there are quite a few questions
7:34 first does the city council approve of
7:37 the marriage proposal and spending
7:39 remaining arpa funds on infrastructure
7:41 including a focus on transportation and
7:44 parks and trails how does the city
7:47 council feel about spending the majority
7:50 of the remaining arpa funds on high
7:51 impact investment in one of the city's
7:54 anchor Parks we'll discuss all of these
7:57 more of course through the course of the
7:58 presentation but just want to give you a
8:00 preview of the type of direction we're
8:01 looking from you
8:02 a third question we'll be looking for
8:05 feedback on the community investment
8:07 fund concept
8:09 does the council agree to keep the focus
8:12 on small transportation and parks and
8:15 Trail projects for the community to
8:17 select and respond to through that
8:19 public engagement process mayor Paulie
8:20 discussed earlier
8:22 does the council have any changes they
8:24 want to make to the project selection
8:25 criteria
8:27 and does the council have any feedback
8:28 on the proposed next step of taking the
8:32 community investment Community
8:34 investment fund engagement plan to the
8:36 mobility and infrastructure committee
8:38 next month
8:40 what is the council feedback regarding
8:43 spending down ending fund balance and
8:46 the additional proposed positions and
8:49 finally fifth question I know it's a lot
8:51 uh what is the city council feedback on
8:54 the timing for medium-term actions
8:56 listed in the strategy including looking
8:59 at facility needs in 2023 and assessing
9:03 new Revenue sources for additional
9:05 investment in transportation and parks
9:07 and infrastructure
9:10 so that's some of the direction that
9:11 will be seeking from you tonight so now
9:13 a little bit of background uh
9:15 so as a reminder the the Capital Finance
9:19 Community task force provided several
9:21 recommendations to council and the
9:24 administration here's a summary high
9:26 level summary of some of those
9:27 recommendations so first they wanted the
9:30 city to focus on Transportation
9:31 infrastructure as the top priority
9:34 second they wanted the city to explore
9:36 additional funding to increase
9:38 investment in infrastructure including
9:41 the potential of a transportation
9:43 benefit district sales tax a levy lid
9:45 lift and or Parks District
9:49 uh the task force also recommended that
9:51 the city reduce the undesignated general
9:54 fund ending fund balance in order to
9:56 spend more annually on infrastructure
9:59 they also recommended that the city used
10:03 9 million dollars of the city's
10:04 remaining arpa funds for immediate
10:07 infrastructure Investments and one thing
10:10 that they emphasize throughout their
10:11 conversations and recommendations was
10:13 they wanted to make sure that the the
10:15 infrastructure Investments the city made
10:17 had a really high impact on the
10:19 community and that was something visible
10:22 and bold even
10:25 so with that uh we will talk about how
10:28 this plan addresses those
10:30 recommendations
10:33 so first let's talk about the
10:35 administration's recommendations for
10:36 arba funds so the Administration has a
10:40 little bit more than nine million
10:41 dollars in arpa funds and what we're
10:44 proposing is that we would use those
10:46 funds on an anchor Park Improvement
10:50 phase one of that Improvement so that
10:52 would be a six million dollar investment
10:54 that really speaks to the task Force's
10:57 recommendation that we do something
11:00 immediate that's very high impact and
11:02 visible in the community
11:03 uh also that the arpa funds two million
11:07 dollars of the arpa funds go towards a
11:10 community investment fund where we have
11:13 projects that the community would then
11:15 through a public engagement process
11:17 select as their priorities that they
11:20 would like to see get done over the next
11:21 year or so
11:23 and finally uh with arpa funds
11:27 to invest one million dollars in the
11:31 I-90 Crossing and Light Rail station
11:33 planning study this is work that we can
11:36 do now and to help prepare us for light
11:39 rail coming in 2044.
11:44 so first let's talk about that anchor
11:46 Park project a little bit more we're
11:48 again talking about a six million dollar
11:50 investment in an anchor Park anchor
11:52 parks are identified in the park
11:54 strategic plan is including the Issaquah
11:58 Creek Corridor area the Tibbetts Valley
12:01 Park and a Veterans Memorial Field and I
12:05 have a Parks director Jeff Watling on
12:07 the line if there's any more specific
12:09 questions you may have for Parks tonight
12:10 but as you know we've been going through
12:14 a Parks Master planning process for some
12:16 of these areas and so this would be an
12:18 opportunity to complete that Master
12:20 planning process and then Implement
12:22 phase one of that Redevelopment or
12:26 investment in one of these major city
12:29 parks
12:31 so uh how this would look moving forward
12:35 is that 2022 we would complete the
12:38 vision and scope and do more public
12:41 engagement now through the end of the
12:42 year on again identifying the vision and
12:45 scope of that Phase One Park Improvement
12:48 in 2023 we would design and complete
12:53 permitting for phase one of the work and
12:56 that construction would occur in 2024
12:58 and this is something that would be on
13:01 our immediate steps for an immediate
13:03 investment and Improvement in the park
13:07 and so that is the first recommendation
13:09 for arpa funds
13:11 the second recommendation I'd actually
13:13 like to turn over to Jean Paul the
13:15 city's management analyst to talk about
13:17 the community investment fund
13:19 so Gene are you on the line
13:22 yes Andrew you can hear me yes
13:25 great thank you good evening members of
13:28 the council as Andrea indicated I'm Gene
13:30 Paul I'm the management analyst in the
13:31 executive office and for the second
13:33 component of the investment strategy
13:36 we're recommending creating a community
13:38 investment fund and allocating two
13:40 million dollars that will allow the
13:42 community to really help decide what
13:45 projects they'd like to see funded for
13:47 this we're proposing that the
13:49 administration will help identify a
13:51 short list of projects and as you can
13:53 see with the criteria there we're
13:55 recommending that those projects are
13:56 eligible for arpa funding and can be
13:58 completed by the deadline where arpa
14:00 funds need to be spent
14:02 that those projects focus on
14:03 transportation and parks and trails
14:05 projects which aligns with the task
14:07 force recommendation and really that
14:10 these projects have already been vetted
14:11 and approved by the council through the
14:13 capital investment plan or CIP process
14:17 if you could go to the next slide please
14:20 and once we identify those projects if
14:23 there are multiple projects where we
14:25 really need to prioritize and create a
14:28 shorter list we're recommending using
14:31 the criteria from the test force in
14:33 order to help prioritize and create that
14:35 short list the top criteria that the
14:38 task force identified for their
14:39 prioritization exercise included
14:42 addressing pain points across the city
14:43 seeing a higher return on investment or
14:46 having a high impact relative to the
14:47 costs of the project
14:49 addressing areas from the 2021 Community
14:52 survey that were identified as highest
14:55 importance but least satisfaction for
14:57 members of the community or projects
14:59 that really would improve life and
15:00 safety
15:02 so in terms of next steps for this
15:04 component of the investment strategy the
15:07 administration will develop that project
15:08 list we'd like to discuss both the list
15:11 and the engagement process with the
15:14 council mobility and infrastructure
15:16 committee beginning next month but we
15:18 look to launch that public engagement
15:19 process in the fall after summer
15:21 vacation where we can really maximize
15:23 the engagement with the community
15:30 thank you Gene
15:32 next and finally for arpa funds the
15:36 multimodal I-90 Crossing study this one
15:40 million dollar study would identify how
15:42 the crossing will incorporate sound
15:44 transit's Link light rail station with
15:46 that Crossing evaluate the land use
15:48 impacts of the different alternatives
15:50 for locations of the crossing and and
15:53 concepts for the crossing it would also
15:56 be the first step in helping us develop
15:58 a Project funding plan
16:00 would I identify potential environmental
16:03 impacts of the Alternatives that would
16:05 either need to be avoided or mitigated
16:07 and it would also uh develop a
16:11 preliminary construction phasing plan
16:16 so in addition to spending arpa funds
16:20 the task force had recommended spending
16:23 down the general fund undesignated
16:25 ending fund balance by investing in
16:27 infrastructure the latest projections
16:29 that we have from Finance show that we
16:32 anticipate a 25 percent
16:36 that that will have 20 25 of general
16:39 fund expenditures uh at the end of the
16:42 year this may change uh come in come
16:44 August when we do more forecasting and
16:46 have more information about our revenues
16:48 but the best information we have right
16:50 now is that we're looking at uh 25 uh
16:53 percent and uh currently the city
16:56 council policy is to have 15 to 20
16:59 percent of
17:01 um general fund expenditures as a
17:03 reserve or as an ending fund balance
17:05 and so the task force had actually
17:07 recommended that the city move away from
17:10 that 20 figure by policy and instead
17:13 make a policy change towards 15 percent
17:15 so that uh that
17:18 that money can be more invested in
17:22 infrastructure instead of kept in
17:24 reserves or an ending fund balance and
17:26 so for us to go from 25 of general fund
17:30 expenditures where we believe we are
17:32 today to reduce it to that task force
17:36 recommendation of 15 of general fund
17:39 expenditures that's about 5.8 million
17:42 dollars
17:43 and again it is subject to change
17:45 depending on how the forecast goes we'll
17:48 have more information in August as we
17:50 prepare for the budget but that's our
17:52 our best guess today
17:54 and so we have a a proposal on how to
17:57 spend down that general fund ending fund
18:00 balance Andrea we have a question
18:03 um council member D Michelle uh thank
18:06 you when we're talking about uh reserves
18:07 are we talking about undesignated
18:09 reserves or the oh yes undesignated
18:13 reserves all right I think that really
18:15 needs to be emphasized when we're
18:17 talking about this because we're not
18:18 talking about the whole general fund
18:21 Reserves that's correct yes just
18:23 undesignated thank you
18:26 thank you for the clarification
18:30 and so we have a proposal for how to
18:32 spend down those undesignated ending
18:36 fund balance and so while we think we
18:38 have about 5.8 million dollars that we
18:41 could spend down to get us to more to
18:43 that 15 percent number we're proposing
18:46 to spend 3 million of that until we have
18:49 more information as we get closer to the
18:51 budget process so those three million
18:53 dollars our proposal is to have more
18:58 positions we're at a point in the city
19:00 where our limitations and being able to
19:03 do more Transportation or other
19:05 infrastructure projects is really
19:06 limited by the staff that we have and
19:09 their capacity to manage these projects
19:12 and so we are requesting two additional
19:15 Transportation Engineers one of those
19:18 positions uh was reduced during covid
19:21 and has not been replaced so we're
19:23 asking for that position to be restored
19:25 plus an additional position we're also
19:28 asking for one administrative Specialist
19:30 or program coordinator to assist with
19:34 the implementation of the capital
19:35 projects our Engineers are doing a lot
19:37 of paperwork shuffling and not able to
19:41 spend as much time on what we've really
19:43 hired them for as their technical
19:45 expertise and so we'd like an
19:47 administrative Specialist or perhaps a
19:49 program coordinator will need to
19:51 finalize that classification
19:53 uh but um that would be about a hundred
19:57 and four thousand dollars per year
19:59 and they would be really supporting the
20:01 engineers and completing these projects
20:02 and doing a lot of the paperwork that's
20:04 required reporting Etc
20:07 then um we're also requesting one turn
20:10 limited Parks planner that would be a
20:13 term of two years to really assist in
20:15 this anchor project and as well uh with
20:19 some of the other Parks projects that
20:22 perhaps the public would
20:25 would select through the community
20:27 investment fund process
20:29 finally we're asking for 2.4 million
20:34 dollars of that ending fund balance to
20:37 be set aside for the budget process and
20:41 rolled over and to the to the 2023-2024
20:45 budget and set aside for as yet
20:48 unspecified infrastructure projects but
20:50 that's something that we can discuss
20:51 during the budget setting process
20:58 I have a question Deputy council
21:00 president Hull thank you super quick
21:02 clarifying question so each of these
21:04 positions are one FTE is that correct
21:07 yes that's correct so two
21:10 um full-time equivalent Transportation
21:12 Engineers one administrative specialist
21:15 those those we anticipate to be ongoing
21:18 needs the parks planner would be limited
21:20 to two years but still 40 hours a week
21:22 yeah but limited to two years
21:29 okay so that really covers more of the
21:32 immediate actions that we would start
21:34 this year in 2022
21:37 next I'd like to summarize the timeline
21:40 of the strategy for looking out ahead
21:44 through 2026 and so
21:47 as we discussed in 2022 just to review
21:50 we would invest in transportation by
21:53 adding staff capacity with the strategy
21:55 we would begin preparations for that
21:59 I-90 Crossing and Light Rail study we
22:02 would begin that Community survey and
22:04 engagement process to select additional
22:06 small capital projects through the
22:08 community investment fund that add up to
22:09 that two million dollars of arba money
22:11 and we would complete the visioning as
22:16 part of the anchor Park project phase
22:18 one you know we do that scoping exercise
22:19 that's all in 2022. in 2023
22:23 were proposing the administration come
22:25 up with a facilities financing plan
22:27 through the task force recommendations
22:30 they had said that transportation is the
22:32 number one priority but didn't select
22:35 after that what was number two or number
22:37 three they said parks and trails is
22:38 really important facilities is also
22:40 really important we don't want to
22:42 prioritize among those or choose among
22:43 those
22:44 and for facilities we do have some
22:48 urgent needs we have a fire station that
22:51 is needed to improve response time in
22:54 North Issaquah we have some needs here
22:56 in the municipal court and council
22:59 chambers and other needs that we would
23:01 like to discuss further and explore with
23:02 Council how best to fund those facility
23:05 needs so we'd like to come up with a
23:07 plan to finance those in 2023
23:11 we also in 2023 would be completing
23:14 those Community selected projects that
23:16 were voted on through that Community
23:18 investment fund process
23:20 we are starting the transit plan process
23:24 in 2022 and so 2023 we would complete
23:27 that Transit plan which would then
23:29 inform projects that would go on the CIP
23:31 we would update the CIP the capital
23:34 Improvement plan and the transportation
23:36 Improvement plan
23:38 and we would in 2023 begin that design
23:44 and permitting for the anchor Park
23:46 project while also
23:48 the parks department would be updating
23:51 the Strategic plan that work begins next
23:54 year as well so all those efforts would
23:56 then inform the next steps here we go in
23:58 2024
24:00 uh we would of course act on what
24:03 facilities financing plan that we came
24:05 up with with the council pending Council
24:07 direction
24:08 we would also begin to have those
24:11 discussions about a transportation
24:13 ballot measure as a follow-up to the
24:16 task force recommendations and so that
24:18 means that we would be looking at what
24:21 is what is that Suite of projects that
24:23 the city should pursue through a ballot
24:25 measure that would be informed by that
24:27 work we conducted in updating the
24:29 capital Improvement plan and the tip the
24:31 the year before
24:34 um and we'd also discuss the timing of
24:36 that ballot measure and when the timing
24:38 would be best and you know whether we
24:40 should do a ballot measure at all right
24:42 so all those discussions would really
24:43 begin in 2024.
24:46 um the anchor Park
24:48 um would still be progressing along and
24:50 we would uh be constructing with that
24:53 big anchor Park investment in 2024 and
24:56 complete the park strategic plan and
24:58 through that Park strategic plan process
25:00 is also when we'd really begin exploring
25:02 the topic of a Parks District the park
25:05 strategic plan will have a lot of public
25:07 engagement
25:08 with the Parks Board and others and so
25:11 that's when we would like to begin
25:13 discussions about that and make some
25:15 progress on that recommendation
25:18 so moving along to 2025
25:20 we would be further develop the funding
25:25 recommendations from that Park strategic
25:27 plan
25:28 and we'd begin Transportation
25:31 improvements from a ballot measure if
25:32 applicable if that ballot measure if we
25:34 go forward with a ballot measure in 2024
25:36 then we would begin implementation in
25:39 2025 if we determined that 2024 isn't
25:43 the time for a ballot measure then we'd
25:45 move that to the date that's decided so
25:48 these dates that anticipate the ballot
25:50 measure in this timeline are really just
25:52 the soonest possible we'd recommend
25:54 having those discussions and considering
25:57 a ballot measure those discussions are
25:59 really going to guide whether that
26:00 ballot measure is even occurs or when we
26:03 would do it in this timeline this is
26:05 really just to show here's the soonest
26:06 possible that we think that we would
26:08 recommend exploring those conversations
26:12 um and then in 2026 following that the
26:16 parks strategic plan uh conversation and
26:20 Parks funding conversations
26:22 um if we do anticipate a Parks District
26:24 ballot measure 2026 would be the soonest
26:28 possible we think we we would recommend
26:32 pursuing that so again these are kind of
26:34 the soonest possible dates there's a lot
26:36 of discussions that need to happen
26:37 before we get there a lot of community
26:39 conversations a lot of planning that
26:41 needs to get there this is really just
26:43 us trying to
26:45 anticipate when we would start those
26:47 discussions and and build out a plan
26:49 from there
26:50 okay and I see a question from council
26:53 member Martz thank you um Deputy State
26:56 administrator Snyder uh the I-90
26:59 Crossing and Light Rail study how long
27:02 will that take
27:04 I've been told that will take a year
27:07 all right that's what I uh kind of maybe
27:10 expected this makes it look like we can
27:12 get it done this year and I didn't think
27:14 we could spend anywhere near anything
27:16 near a million dollar study by the end
27:18 of this year so it would be it'd be next
27:20 year that's correct what we would get
27:22 started on is writing the RFP and trying
27:25 to select a consultant to help us with
27:28 that study so we can get started but we
27:29 don't we will not be able to complete
27:31 that this year got it thank you
27:35 and a question from Deputy council
27:38 president Hall
27:40 and it's been delayed go ahead
27:44 okay thank you so as far as next steps
27:48 in July we would be returning to the
27:51 council July 5th to complete this
27:53 discussion and whatever follow-ups come
27:55 out of this evening also in July there's
27:58 a council mobility and infrastructure
27:59 committee to discuss public engagement
28:02 and other topics related to the
28:04 community investment fund
28:05 in August we'd begin recruitment for
28:08 those authorized positions pending
28:10 Council Direction in September we would
28:13 deploy the Outreach and engagement plan
28:15 for that Community investment fund
28:18 so those are just some of the most
28:19 immediate next steps and public and
28:22 Council touches and that concludes my
28:25 presentation
28:28 any other questions
28:30 excellent okay
28:33 um go ahead
28:34 yeah
28:37 thank you
28:38 um in the executive summary so in the
28:41 memo it says that there's 4.5 million to
28:45 be determined by community outreach and
28:47 and the upcoming budgetary process so I
28:49 was trying to figure out what goes into
28:51 that 4.5 because it's actually on the
28:54 presentation 2 million for the Community
28:58 Fund and then there's some other
29:01 budgetary process funds but I couldn't
29:04 quite figure out what is going into that
29:06 bucket
29:07 yeah
29:09 um so that would be uh the 2 million
29:12 from the community investment fund as
29:14 you said as well as
29:17 it refers to this ending fund balance so
29:20 we have 5.8 that we've identified so far
29:22 and a recommendation to spend three
29:24 million of it so that leaves that leaves
29:27 some money or 2.4 right here I'm sorry
29:29 2.4 of unspecified infrastructured
29:31 projects to be rolled over into the 2023
29:34 and 24 budget process
29:37 does that answer your question
29:39 okay so we are considering that 2.4 in
29:43 addition to the two from arpa that 2.4
29:46 million unspecified to again be a
29:48 Community Fund
29:50 because that's the part that I'm
29:52 wondering about community outreach so
29:54 the community outreach will largely be
29:56 around the community investment fund and
29:58 then the budget setting process is when
30:00 we'll discuss this 2.4 million
30:04 which is that so it's so it's
30:06 unspecified projects that still need to
30:09 be worked out through through a process
30:10 all right thank you okay
30:13 and council member Mertz
30:18 I'm trying to wrap my head around that
30:19 2.4 million because if we don't spend it
30:24 and if we say okay it'll go into next
30:27 year and it'll be part of next year's
30:28 budget but then if at the end of next
30:30 year we're still at 25 ending fund
30:33 balance and we'll still have just always
30:35 been 25 ending fund balance like 25 or
30:38 30 or 35 like we always do every year so
30:41 I'm just trying to understand if we're
30:44 trying to do that what what does that
30:47 actually do in the next year's budget
30:50 process do we go into the budget with
30:53 already a proposal in there for 2.4 more
30:57 than we would have if we hadn't put two
31:00 because there'll be other I mean
31:01 there'll be a budget right and it'll be
31:03 aiming to
31:05 uh get to a certain percentage I'm just
31:08 trying to understand how this what this
31:10 what this 2.4 actually does
31:13 thank you
31:14 um so we
31:17 um what the 2.4 does is it really
31:19 earmarks it for infrastructure projects
31:21 so the task force had recommended that
31:24 instead of having a planning for a you
31:26 know a large ending fund balance that we
31:28 try to spend it down and that we spend
31:30 it down specifically on infrastructure
31:32 and things that support infrastructure
31:34 investment and so that's what it does it
31:36 really tries to ensure that this money
31:38 that has generally been left over year
31:41 after year that we invest it more and do
31:44 more with it for the community and so we
31:45 would keep a really close eye on that
31:48 through the budget setting process for
31:49 2023 24 and try to make sure that we are
31:52 with this money uh really investing it
31:56 in infrastructure versus other types of
31:58 City expenditures
32:04 anything else uh it it's just it's not a
32:08 mechanism I've seen used in previous
32:10 budgets so I'm just trying to understand
32:11 what as a policy decision it actually
32:16 does does it also commit us to shoot for
32:18 15 instead of 15 to 20 would it change
32:21 our our financial uh
32:24 uh policies document yes and I think
32:29 that's that's a conversation that we
32:31 anticipate having in the 2023-24 budget
32:34 setting process is really contemplating
32:38 um a reduced ending fund undesignated
32:41 ending fund balance so not having that
32:43 20 not planning for that 20 as we've
32:46 done in years past but planning for
32:48 something closer to the 15 percent
32:52 um that that would be the policy change
32:54 and council member marks members of the
32:57 council if I can just add uh we hear you
32:59 loud and clear that you're uncomfortable
33:01 with the large ending fund balance we've
33:03 had a number of years of as you have all
33:06 lived through it a whole variety of
33:08 different factors so we sit here at the
33:10 end of June we are in the process of
33:11 working on the operating budget
33:13 proposals uh for uh 23 24. so we already
33:16 know uh the administration that will be
33:18 coming to you to spend down those fund
33:20 balances I think as the deputy City
33:22 administrator is saying we want to
33:24 commit tonight the 2.4 of that we are
33:28 going to be putting toward capital
33:29 projects there's still additional
33:31 dollars we are still working on that
33:34 ultimately the council has to decide how
33:36 comfortable you truly are we are still
33:38 in a rebuilding uh mode with our staff
33:41 we you will hear from us in August that
33:44 we are still underspending the budget
33:46 because of the number of vacancies that
33:47 we have so that fund balance will
33:49 continue to grow at the same time
33:51 there's other needs in the community
33:53 that have nothing to do with with of the
33:55 capital infrastructure that we're
33:56 talking about that would be one-time
33:58 funding eligible so I think tonight the
34:01 message is 2.4 million dollars is what
34:04 we're looking at to put into the 2324
34:06 Budget on the capital side there'll be
34:08 additional expenditures recommended and
34:10 then ultimately the council will have to
34:12 decide how far down you want to go
34:14 thank you
34:17 councilmember Ray
34:19 thank you council president Walsh I have
34:21 so many questions
34:23 um most of them are interesting so the
34:25 number one priority coming out of the
34:26 investment task force was transportation
34:28 and depending upon how I choose to look
34:31 at it I can either get 11 or 33 percent
34:33 of the arbor funding is going into
34:35 Transportation with the Lion's Share
34:36 going to Parks how does that work
34:40 uh the other there's other ways that
34:43 we're implementing that recommendation
34:44 to focus on transportation and what we
34:47 also heard from Council with your
34:49 feedback is saying maybe
34:52 um a little bit of discomfort with
34:54 declaring Transportation as the number
34:56 one priority right now I think there
34:58 were concerns that we wanted to make
35:00 sure that we were picking the right
35:01 projects to invest in in the future so
35:04 what how this overall strategy responds
35:07 to the task force recommendation was
35:11 that we look at the any transportation
35:16 funding ballot initiative first before
35:20 we look at a Park's district for example
35:23 so that makes the timeline for looking
35:26 at additional revenues to provide
35:28 additional investments in transportation
35:31 doing that really starting that in 2024
35:34 before parks and so there's a number of
35:37 things that that
35:40 are in place that are underway right now
35:43 like the transit plan and other things
35:44 that will inform that discussion
35:47 um so so that's another way that the
35:49 strategy responds to that priority for
35:51 setting Transportation first perhaps
35:53 before some of these other conversations
35:56 I have more questions but council member
35:58 marks Did you want to respond to that I
35:59 thought you did
36:01 council member marks so as a former
36:04 member of the long-term uh task for a
36:06 financing task force I appreciate your
36:08 question and I appreciate the uh urge to
36:11 uh keep honest to other feedback that
36:14 that task force created
36:17 um I would I would say that the feedback
36:20 was nuanced because we broke things down
36:22 into three phases right and we said
36:24 things we could do near term
36:25 specifically with our dollars things we
36:28 could do medium term with certain
36:30 funding mechanisms and things that we
36:31 might do long term with yet different
36:33 funding mechanisms so in the spirit of
36:36 that I would say maybe at the point
36:38 where this bill comes or this this if we
36:41 if we get General agreement this evening
36:43 on what we want to do at the point where
36:44 it comes back maybe a re-resh of that
36:49 and understanding how this fits into
36:51 that sort of medium and long-term
36:53 conversation that was had because it was
36:55 really a lot of work went into
36:57 separating what would you do with
36:58 near-term dollars and what would you do
37:00 with longer term dollars thank you
37:02 all right picking back up
37:05 um I noticed that the in the plan
37:06 there's no contemplation of using any
37:09 debt was that the reason we're not
37:10 considering any debt for so we could
37:12 chunk off something bigger or faster
37:16 um we are contemplating using debt I
37:19 think especially as we talk about 2023
37:21 and that facilities uh financing plan
37:24 and debt will likely be related to our
37:27 conversations in 2024 regarding
37:30 transportation and whether or not the
37:32 city moves forward with a ballot measure
37:34 or any Revenue new revenues the city
37:37 would like to pursue to help pay off
37:39 debt related to increased investment in
37:42 transportation so we didn't list that uh
37:45 explicitly in the strategy but that's
37:47 certainly part of the conversations yeah
37:49 I'm just struck that um
37:52 we we're looking for ways to spend down
37:54 ending fund balance which is excess
37:56 Revenue which could then be used to
37:58 retire debt and so instead of doing a
38:00 bunch of little things you're using uh
38:03 ending fund balance we could take on
38:06 something big and impactful and
38:08 meaningful
38:09 um and do it with debt and then use
38:11 ending we wouldn't have any fund balance
38:13 because those additional dollars that
38:15 are Revenue in excess of expenses could
38:18 be used for Debt Service so just a
38:20 thought to look at that a little
38:22 differently I'm looking at the capital
38:24 Improvement plan from that we adopted in
38:26 2021 April or May or something like that
38:28 last year and there's some really great
38:31 Transportation initiatives on here that
38:33 we could do
38:35 for instance you know the uh
38:39 non-motorized uh
38:41 access on East Sammamish and um so I'm
38:45 just kind of curious why we're not
38:47 looking at things that are on the
38:48 capital Improvement plan for ways to
38:51 invest in infrastructure
38:56 um so I think
38:58 great point about how we're using our
39:01 how we're proposing using arpa funds or
39:04 ending fund balance in relation to debt
39:06 and what that strategy is
39:08 as far as your question about why are we
39:12 not looking at the CIP
39:14 we are looking at the CIP based off of
39:18 the projects that are being proposed in
39:21 the community investment fund the I-90
39:23 Crossing study some of these projects
39:25 are really moving up from future years
39:27 into something that we can do more
39:29 immediately so these projects are really
39:33 derived from the CIP but you know I
39:36 appreciate your point about how we're
39:38 considering using debt in relation to
39:39 some of these other bigger project
39:40 options all right two more I'm almost
39:43 done I really am
39:44 um so when I look at the CIP and I look
39:47 at the I-90 Crossing which would have
39:48 been the study when we did the CIP we
39:51 estimated at 3.4 million not a million
39:53 so trying to rationalize the difference
39:56 between what we thought it was going to
39:57 cost in the CIP and what we think it's
39:59 going to cost now
40:01 it may be that additional study is
40:04 needed this is really going to get us
40:06 kicked off at make some progress right
40:09 now and there are going to be additional
40:11 Environmental Studies that are going to
40:13 be required after this this isn't this
40:15 isn't the last plan we'll see and then
40:17 be ready to build a light rail station
40:19 or a Crossing this really just gets us
40:21 started yeah I'm just thinking if we
40:23 have the funding and that was the
40:25 2022-2023 time frame on that study why
40:29 not do the whole thing when we got the
40:30 money and then my final question is was
40:34 an anchor Park in the CIP because I
40:36 couldn't find it
40:38 uh there is a discussion about anchor
40:40 parks in the park strategic plan an
40:42 investment in those I would have to
40:45 phone a friend here and see if Jeff
40:46 Watling can speak directly to Anchor
40:49 parks and what's in the CIP so Jeff are
40:53 you he's not on the line okay I thought
40:55 he'd be here tonight
40:56 oh he is okay I understand he's double
40:59 booked so we'll have to come back to you
41:01 with an answer on that okay I'll look
41:02 for it thank you thanks
41:05 and Deputy council president Hull
41:08 thank you very much for the detailed
41:10 presentation
41:11 um piggybacking off a council member
41:14 Mart's earlier question on the I-90 uh
41:18 Crossing study so we think that's
41:21 something that can be accomplished in a
41:23 year
41:24 um do we have a good sense of what the
41:27 timeline is for Sound Transit to then
41:30 approach us about next steps from their
41:33 end and do we feel satisfied that if we
41:35 have a study after a year it'll still be
41:37 useful when Sound Transit comes forward
41:39 just genuinely asking
41:43 I'm going to be the blunt talker tonight
41:45 so I'll apologize in advance
41:48 if the council would like to see light
41:50 rail come to Issaquah we need to start
41:52 spending money now if we do not spend
41:54 any money we will get a call from Sound
41:56 Transit 15 years from now
41:59 and so we don't know all the parameters
42:01 here mayor Paulie I think has made it
42:03 very clear that this is a community
42:05 priority we also don't want to say let's
42:08 take all the arpa money because gosh we
42:11 could be studying this forever so what I
42:13 think we have put before you this
42:14 evening is our best estimate to what we
42:16 need to do to jump start this project to
42:18 get sound transit to pay attention that
42:21 we are serious in Issaquah about having
42:23 light rail come here we know what the
42:26 processes are between the Federal
42:28 Highway Administration
42:29 the transit funding we know what steps
42:32 we need to take we are saying the mayor
42:34 is saying we do not want to wait for
42:36 Sound Transit for that phone call 15
42:37 years from now we want to get started
42:39 now so a lot of what you're seeing
42:42 tonight is not in the easy buckets that
42:45 perhaps other CIP discussions have been
42:47 uh and I I I'm speaking for the mayor
42:50 and she's standing you know 10 feet from
42:53 um but but I think it's an important
42:55 point to make that this is meant to be
42:58 transformed this is meant to say the
43:01 pandemic has been horrible Scourge on
43:04 everyone this community the entire world
43:07 but we need to move on and we're ready
43:10 to move on we have these funding there
43:12 we need to give something back to our
43:15 residents in addition to Transportation
43:17 which is a much longer term piece that's
43:20 why you're hearing so much about the
43:21 anchor Park so mayor Paulie I apologize
43:23 I'll get off my soapbox for now but I
43:25 think it's really important
43:27 to put this in the proper light and that
43:30 this is a very different kind of
43:32 discussion this is not our regular CIP
43:34 what are we going to do this year how
43:36 are we going to move the deck chairs
43:38 around this is really a signal from the
43:41 administration that we need to take a
43:43 different approach we need to take the
43:45 dollars that we have use them as a
43:46 catalyst and move on near poly I'll shut
43:49 up hi it took my wind never mind I just
43:52 have a few details to add you know over
43:55 the last year or two talking with
43:57 washdot I've asked frequently when and
43:59 would they would be ready to sit and
44:01 talk with us about the big the
44:03 pre-planning for the Sound Transit Light
44:05 Rail station it very likely will be on
44:08 one side or the other or on top of that
44:10 right away and when that partner is
44:12 ready to come and talk with us I think
44:14 we begin the pre-planning if I were to
44:17 enhance on the narrative you've already
44:19 heard uh
44:21 the one million dollars is a down
44:23 payment it's the start of a process that
44:25 brings stakeholders through the tail
44:27 table that can then come back to council
44:29 enter their respective agencies and let
44:31 them know we have a 3.5 million dollar
44:34 process but we've invested one million
44:36 dollars in order to get washed.metro
44:38 sand Transit City of Issaquah and
44:41 whoever else we need at the table I've
44:43 sent uh information to both our state
44:47 senator the head of Sound Transit the
44:49 head of Metro
44:52 King County council member and a few
44:55 others to say that you would be having
44:57 this very important conversation over
44:59 the next two meetings and again to frame
45:01 it as this is the first step and we need
45:04 to take the first step in order to
45:06 figure out what the rest of them look
45:07 like stand transit's very unlikely to
45:09 assign us a project manager right now
45:12 but that does not mean they will not sit
45:13 at the table with us and talk about it
45:15 the one advice I got from the former
45:17 mayor of Redmond and former mayor of
45:19 Bellevue was they'll tell you when they
45:21 they want to start but you'll know when
45:23 you need to start and where the
45:25 conversation started on the sound
45:27 transit schedule they felt like they ran
45:29 out of time so it's not too soon to be
45:31 doing this this is a good investment
45:37 thank you one only one thing to add to
45:40 all of that which is that uh our
45:44 transportation staff have indicated that
45:46 this first step allows us to be really
45:49 competitive for future grants and so we
45:52 can start to leverage grant funding to
45:55 pay for additional steps in the process
46:00 all right uh well thanks that makes a
46:03 lot of sense so it's not necessarily
46:05 that the end of next year Council will
46:07 have it deliverable from this that we'll
46:09 see this is the start of a larger maybe
46:13 the beginning of stakeholdering and then
46:15 the start of a larger process
46:17 you yes and I think it's the start of
46:20 understanding what those future asks are
46:22 right so it's looking at project costs
46:24 funding plans I think there's going to
46:26 be a lot that we get out of this study
46:29 that will guide our next steps and so
46:31 that's that's really that's really the
46:34 goal
46:35 uh thank you and I had one more question
46:37 if that's okay
46:40 and I've been trying to think about how
46:42 to frame it so it doesn't sound
46:44 adversarial so let me just say that off
46:46 the bat it's not meant to do that I'm
46:48 just interested in exploring the
46:49 administration's thinking and how you
46:51 came about the thinking for the anchor
46:53 Park so
46:54 um when I think about arpa money in
46:56 general
46:57 um transformed is transformative is a
46:59 world that comes up a lot
47:01 um you know we tend to think about it on
47:02 the task force we tend to think about it
47:04 a lot as um
47:05 what qualifies as spending that we can
47:09 have for arpa
47:10 um but you know if we think about it in
47:12 its true form it's a stimulus right to
47:14 create economic prosperity in
47:16 communities to help lift you know the
47:19 American economy that's the reason why I
47:22 did that so from that lens I'm
47:24 interested in exploring why the
47:26 administration thinks
47:27 um an investment a
47:30 large investment in an anchor Park would
47:33 help create economic prosperity
47:36 in the community and if you can kind of
47:39 speak about it from from that lens it
47:40 would be really helpful for me
47:42 great I think that there's a couple of
47:45 responses we have
47:47 one is that we also know that during the
47:50 pandemic so you mentioned economic
47:52 Prosperity there's a lot of studies out
47:54 there that talk about the economic
47:55 effects of big Park Investments things
47:57 like that but also coming out of the
48:00 pandemic we heard from our community how
48:02 much they appreciated parks and it was
48:05 the only thing that was open to the
48:06 public that they could do for a long
48:08 time and so we heard more of an
48:11 importance and appreciation for our
48:12 parks and more of a desire to invest in
48:15 them and so we felt like this would be
48:17 an opportunity to have a big investment
48:19 with high impact high visibility that
48:22 would
48:24 um that would really uplift quality of
48:26 life and provide that great investment
48:29 for the community so those are some of
48:30 the the thoughts that we've heard based
48:32 off of the community feedback we'd had
48:34 it was also mentioned if you recall in
48:36 some of the task force discussions the
48:38 desire to have maybe a big impactful
48:41 Park project with arpa funds I am
48:44 looking at the city administrator I'm
48:46 wondering if he has something to ad he
48:47 looked like you did before
48:49 mayor Paulie does and also Jeff Watling
48:52 is on the line so council president
48:53 Walsh if you'd like to we can go back to
48:56 that question regarding the fun thing
48:58 for the anchor parks in the current
48:59 budget it's so nice that they're giving
49:01 me so much my time today this is fun
49:04 um for me the reason I was looking at an
49:07 impactful Parks project was because a
49:10 lot of the parks that we have in
49:11 Issaquah have not and council member
49:14 Mart knows this very well have not had
49:17 Investments over the long term if the
49:20 parks themselves are older and many of
49:22 our signature Parks such as Tibbetts and
49:26 Memorial Field really haven't changed in
49:28 decades and decades and the community
49:31 I think it's I'm going to phrase it this
49:34 way it is a impact to the community if
49:37 they could have a outdoor place with the
49:41 kinds of activities they've been asking
49:42 for that Issaquah has been yet able to
49:44 provide so for example looking at
49:47 Tibbetts park with grass fields which
49:49 probably was a great idea in the 80s we
49:52 all know that turf fields would turn
49:54 that park from a three-month a year park
49:56 into a 12-month year park it would
49:58 increase the diversity of activities and
50:01 provide opportunities for abled and
50:03 disabled and so we don't have a lot of
50:06 those components in our older city parks
50:08 so for me the impact was an outdoor
50:12 positive healthful place for all to
50:15 gather and the same with Memorial Park
50:17 it's got a lovely very fun old-fashioned
50:20 grass baseball field and a great play
50:23 structure but if you visited other
50:25 cities or even just the state park and
50:27 you see what improvements are being done
50:29 in the last decade for children with
50:32 disabilities adults with disabilities
50:34 and all the different kinds of uses that
50:36 people are now expecting from Parks you
50:38 don't see that in this park either I
50:40 feel like this is something that would
50:41 be highly visible quickly built and
50:44 widely enjoyed and that was how I
50:46 defined impact
50:48 [Music]
50:51 thank you and so we have director
50:53 Watling on the line
50:56 yes we do council president good evening
50:59 Jeff thank you for joining us the you
51:02 are double book tonight I know
51:05 there's some questions regarding anchor
51:07 parks and current budgeting for anchor
51:09 Parks it was noted they're not in the
51:11 CIP but I believe there are planning
51:13 dollars elsewhere could you give a
51:15 little bit of explanation there
51:18 sure you you bet
51:21 um I believe within the CIP there is
51:24 funding for Tibbetts Valley Park for
51:28 Memorial Park and Issaquah Creek
51:30 Corridor
51:32 um so I I'm I guess I'll pause there and
51:35 maybe seek clarification on what the the
51:38 question was uh Council chair
51:42 so I think the question was related to
51:45 whether the projects were in the CIP and
51:48 perhaps it was that we were looking at
51:50 it as anchor Park
51:53 improvements whereas you're saying that
51:57 the planning for those parks that had
52:00 done been done through the park
52:02 strategic plan was already listed
52:04 individually for each of the quote
52:07 unquote anchor parks within the CIP is
52:10 that correct
52:12 yes that's how it lives now and maybe I
52:15 can I could speak a little bit about the
52:17 the
52:18 etymology the the the how this
52:21 progressed from the park plan forward so
52:23 the park plan was adopted in 2018
52:26 um as the mayor said so well a lot of
52:28 the community feedback was hey we love
52:30 our Parks but they're tired
52:33 um and a lot of the the the the more
52:35 established Parks have not been invested
52:37 in a long time and so you might recall
52:39 before the pandemic we endeavored uh
52:41 I've met pretty big Master planning
52:43 effort uh that was all wrapped into one
52:45 master planning budget in the CIP and
52:48 that's what kicked off this anchor Park
52:50 discussion where in 2019 we went out and
52:53 had a lot of community engagement around
52:55 what we called the anchor Parks which
52:58 was
52:59 um Veterans Memorial Playfield and the
53:01 conglomeration of parks around it Depot
53:03 and pedestrian Park and then Tibbetts
53:06 Valley Park and the Issaquah Creek
53:07 Corridor so you saw within your
53:10 budgeting planning dollars for that work
53:13 that happened in 2019 as the pandemic
53:16 hit us in 2020
53:19 and I think the most recent CIP effort
53:22 during the pandemic we have now tried to
53:25 identify budget and planning for each of
53:27 those as separate Parks knowing as we
53:31 eventually continued in that work that
53:33 the actual
53:35 sort of finishing of the planning and
53:37 then the eventual design and
53:39 construction of those would need to be
53:41 have would need to happen as separate
53:43 separate Parks so
53:46 I hope that helps
53:49 thank you
53:51 and so do you want to follow up on that
53:54 yeah it was it was my question so I
53:56 think that's great and I I may have
53:58 confused some I was thinking anchor Park
54:00 was anic and anchor not ankors
54:05 um so so that that's helpful but when I
54:08 look at the and I guess if we we suck
54:11 everything forward so we can accelerate
54:13 it but if I look at the CIP for 2022 to
54:15 2024 since that's our period I look at
54:18 Tibbetts alley I look at this um
54:21 uh Veterans Park and I look at the creek
54:24 Corridor I see about two million dollars
54:27 worth of uh planned expenditures so is
54:30 the plan then to accelerate some of
54:32 these things that we had in the 25
54:33 through 27 kind of time frame for those
54:36 parks
54:39 yes the six million dollars would be an
54:41 accelerated investment a lot of that
54:44 work
54:46 as well
54:48 um include some planning some planning
54:52 dollars as well and I I don't forgive me
54:54 I don't have the CIP in front of me I
54:56 was just coming from a park board
54:57 meeting I don't know if all that 2
55:00 million is actual funded or if some of
55:04 that is is unfunded at this time but the
55:07 goal would be identify identify one of
55:10 those anchor parks and accelerate an
55:14 initial phase one investment
55:18 great thanks Jeff
55:21 okay and our next question from council
55:24 member Joe
55:25 thank you council president
55:29 want to compliment the administration
55:30 for thinking a little bit outside the
55:32 box and trying to figure out ways that
55:34 we could creatively use our funds
55:37 Barbie Michelle councilmember D Michelle
55:39 went to the AWC conference and there was
55:42 an innovation section a class that she
55:46 went to and she commented to me this
55:48 evening that she was very excited that
55:50 the city was already doing many of the
55:52 things or almost all the things that
55:54 were in The Innovation conference and I
55:55 think this project as well the
55:57 undertaking that you've that you've
55:59 started here is part of that as well
56:02 I always look at you know what could
56:04 possibly go wrong as we look at these
56:07 big expenditures and and The Innovation
56:10 that we're trying to take on and I'm
56:12 looking at the the the new positions
56:14 that we have here and with the tight
56:16 labor market and and the conditions that
56:18 are out there
56:20 um if we're not able to fill either the
56:22 two Transportation engineer positions
56:24 the one program coordinator for public
56:25 works or The one-term Limited Parks
56:28 planner my question is if we don't fill
56:31 those positions will any of the projects
56:33 and things that we're talking about
56:34 tonight not be done or will we still be
56:37 able to to make them even though we're
56:39 not filling the pro the positions here
56:43 foreign
56:44 thank you councilmember Joe certainly we
56:47 need staff to complete the work and so
56:50 um I think we have been having a pretty
56:53 good track record of being able to hire
56:56 really qualified Engineers over the past
56:59 year and so we would need staff to
57:02 complete the work but certainly even
57:04 adding an additional
57:06 engineer and program coordinator or
57:09 admin assistant to support them would go
57:12 a really long way in being able to
57:13 implement some of these projects
57:16 thank you I know that when we discussed
57:18 the tip there were a couple of projects
57:20 that we wanted to do but we couldn't do
57:23 because we didn't have a staff for it
57:25 and I want to see us get as much done as
57:28 we possibly can and any innovative
57:32 new ideas that HR might have or the
57:35 administration might have to recruit and
57:36 find people to get these positions
57:38 filled I think the to get the positions
57:40 filled I think we'll go a long way to
57:42 getting us to the goal that I think we
57:44 all want to get to in terms of being
57:46 Innovative and using the city's funds
57:48 the funds and tax dollars that our
57:50 citizens have put in there to the best
57:52 use possible so thank you
57:56 and Deputy council president Hull did
57:58 you your okay
58:00 um councilmember D Michelle
58:02 thank you just to follow up on that
58:04 question I didn't notice that one of
58:07 those positions is term limited and the
58:10 others are not and uh could you just
58:13 explain uh why that one particular
58:16 position was designated that way
58:21 uh yes I think that we can see the need
58:23 for this position as maybe you recall we
58:26 had two parks planner positions before
58:28 the pandemic
58:30 that was one of those positions was
58:33 reduced uh during our expenditure
58:36 reductions during the pandemic we have a
58:39 term limited because we think that
58:40 there's certainly going to be enough
58:42 work for that position over the next two
58:44 years I think at that point then we'd
58:46 like to reevaluate as the park strategic
58:48 planning process has been completed and
58:50 as we consider what are the next steps
58:53 for a potential Parks district and so uh
58:56 but we're we're pretty sure we're
58:59 confident we have the work for that
59:01 position for the next two years and then
59:02 timing of additional resources and when
59:04 they would be needed we want to we want
59:06 to be able to evaluate within two years
59:08 to see if that would be a permanent need
59:09 or not
59:11 thank you
59:14 I'm gonna wait until Deputy council
59:16 president Hall decides whether or not
59:18 this is an actual question okay go go
59:21 redhead
59:23 sorry thank you I've been going back and
59:24 forth on this so I want to dig a little
59:26 bit deeper into into my last question
59:28 about thinking of ARP as a stimulus for
59:30 economic Prosperity so thank you all um
59:33 for responding to that
59:35 clearly parks are a great economic
59:38 investment in communities
59:40 um I guess I'm interested in exploring
59:42 the administration's admission
59:44 administration's decision making on that
59:46 though because
59:48 um I think we could all agree that
59:50 investment in Mobility especially you
59:52 know alternative and alternative you
59:55 know opportunities for Mobility
59:57 multimodal access is also a good
1:00:01 economic driver and would be a good use
1:00:03 of arpa dollars so I'm just curious if
1:00:05 the administration kind of went through
1:00:07 and exercise at all and said okay these
1:00:09 are both good economic engines for a
1:00:13 community but we believe this one rises
1:00:15 above and that's why we're proposing so
1:00:18 much of arpa funding for that one in
1:00:20 particular so I'm just curious if you
1:00:21 have that conversation through that ends
1:00:23 not necessarily because this is the best
1:00:25 impact project we can have but through
1:00:28 kind of an economic Prosperity lens if
1:00:31 you can speak to that
1:00:35 uh thank you Deputy council president
1:00:37 the short answer is yes
1:00:39 um you know I we spent a lot of time
1:00:41 myself Andrea mayor Jeff Watling who's
1:00:44 on line with us you know really thinking
1:00:47 about the future of this community why
1:00:49 do people want to be here do people want
1:00:52 to be here because there's Trader Joe's
1:00:55 and Target and every grocery store you
1:00:57 can imagine did they want to be here uh
1:01:00 because or near a hospital why do they
1:01:03 want to be here
1:01:05 um you know we keep coming back to one
1:01:07 thing it's the quality of life it's the
1:01:09 Outdoor Experience why do people spend a
1:01:12 million dollars for a condo in this
1:01:15 community it's because of those outdoor
1:01:16 experiences so as we look more broadly
1:01:19 at the future of Issaquah we really
1:01:22 believe we need to continue to make
1:01:24 those Park Investments so as you've
1:01:27 heard tonight the two existing Parks the
1:01:30 um the the the the the the golden
1:01:33 necklace the the along the Creek that's
1:01:36 what's going to keep this community
1:01:37 viable for the long term
1:01:39 and we really think that making those
1:01:42 Investments are really important
1:01:43 I'm disappointed tonight that we seem to
1:01:47 be thinking that we're spending no money
1:01:48 on transportation and that's not true
1:01:50 there are dollars spent here one of the
1:01:53 challenges with many Transportation
1:01:55 projects is that there's many many
1:01:56 partners we can't just go out and do
1:01:59 something because we want to we have to
1:02:01 work with state agencies we have to we
1:02:03 work with property owners on council
1:02:05 member hunting I had long talks today
1:02:07 about sidewalks on squawk Mountain I
1:02:10 mean it would be great if we could just
1:02:11 say okay we're going to do that but all
1:02:13 those properties and all the
1:02:14 right-of-way issues that we need to work
1:02:16 through and we're prepared to do that
1:02:18 but you're hearing tonight I think is
1:02:21 what can and this is Mayor Paulie's
1:02:23 Vision you know what can we do to ensure
1:02:26 that this community thrives and really
1:02:28 that quality of life piece we're not
1:02:30 going to get an Amazon headquarters you
1:02:33 know we're not and that's not what this
1:02:34 community needs we'll continue to look
1:02:36 at the central Issaquah plan as that
1:02:39 engine but people want to recreate here
1:02:40 they want to enjoy the outdoors here
1:02:42 they want to be have access to that and
1:02:45 if we as a community as a city
1:02:47 government continue to make those
1:02:48 Investments I mean I think that's where
1:02:50 some of our economic Prosperity comes
1:02:52 from you look at what's happening in
1:02:54 Bellevue
1:02:55 thousands and thousands of jobs where
1:02:57 are these people going to live
1:02:59 um you know many of them are going to
1:03:01 want to come here and we're going to
1:03:02 want them here because they're going to
1:03:03 have high paying jobs
1:03:05 they're going to want to enjoy those
1:03:07 those benefits and amenities so again as
1:03:11 many of you have said tonight this is a
1:03:12 very different kind of conversation but
1:03:14 we absolutely did think about these
1:03:16 things Parks can be an economic engine
1:03:19 Parks can be Economic Development and we
1:03:23 can invest in Parks but we can also make
1:03:25 the investments in the transportation I
1:03:27 mean we've got a strategic plan a master
1:03:29 Mobility plan and a and a climate action
1:03:34 plan all done in the last three years
1:03:37 there are many community members that
1:03:39 would like us to be done with all of
1:03:40 this by the end of next month that's
1:03:43 just not possible and so the mayor's
1:03:44 Vision here is let's let's do this in a
1:03:47 way that brings all of these things
1:03:49 together that works on all of them but
1:03:52 also be thoughtful about how we pay for
1:03:54 them because we do not have the money to
1:03:56 pay for new things we do not have the
1:03:58 money to pay for the maintenance of
1:03:59 things and we need to be thoughtful
1:04:01 about that in that long term
1:04:04 long answer to a short question I
1:04:06 apologize
1:04:10 um council member Martz
1:04:12 so when we talk about Park's investment
1:04:16 I remember when we put together the
1:04:19 three disparate pieces of real estate
1:04:22 that made Confluence part
1:04:24 and we had at the time
1:04:27 something like and it was the previous
1:04:29 it was a different Parks director but we
1:04:32 had something like a 15 million dollar
1:04:34 plan for that Park and for that to be
1:04:37 the Cornerstone for really all of our
1:04:41 Parks efforts at least in the valley and
1:04:44 I guess my question is
1:04:46 um how much of that 15 million have we
1:04:49 actually done
1:04:50 and it's this is a two this is a couple
1:04:53 partner how much have we done
1:04:55 um have has Council gotten sort of an
1:04:57 update on what still is the plan for
1:05:00 that park because I hear a six million
1:05:03 dollar potential Parks investment and
1:05:06 um it seems obvious to me that there's
1:05:07 still things we want to do with
1:05:09 Confluence but it doesn't seem like
1:05:11 Council has heard a lot about where
1:05:14 Confluence is at or where Confluence is
1:05:16 going for some time
1:05:20 thank you councilman Vermont
1:05:23 um I'm wondering uh Jeff you're still on
1:05:25 the line can you speak to that question
1:05:30 yeah it's a great question thank you
1:05:31 councilmember Marge I do not have
1:05:33 specific dollars but I can tell you I
1:05:36 know from that original Confluence Park
1:05:37 Vision a great vision a significant
1:05:40 amount of that investment required a
1:05:43 different city facility investment and
1:05:45 that is the the park operations and
1:05:48 Facilities Maintenance Shop moving
1:05:51 um that that obviously hasn't happened
1:05:54 yet and so
1:05:56 um I think to date you know with the
1:05:59 addition of the bridge in 2018
1:06:03 um some of the irrigation improvements
1:06:04 that were done in 2019 I can get you a
1:06:07 running total of what that is uh but I
1:06:10 know some of the the more expensive
1:06:12 future phases
1:06:13 um uh required in in essence replacing
1:06:17 the shop facility moving the shop
1:06:18 facility somewhere else and then
1:06:20 repurposing that shop facility as as
1:06:23 Future Park
1:06:26 and and with that with that six million
1:06:30 dollars if we said we wanted to go to
1:06:32 parks would that potentially could
1:06:36 uh is it is it something the city would
1:06:39 entertain having a fraction of that 6
1:06:41 million go towards moving that facility
1:06:44 such that uh we could commence with the
1:06:47 additional phases of that park because I
1:06:49 think if we dusted off the original plan
1:06:51 we would see there was a lot more to
1:06:53 Confluence that we wanted to do not that
1:06:55 Confluence isn't beautiful it really is
1:06:57 but it was a pretty ambitious plan back
1:07:00 in the day
1:07:02 very ambitious and in a great a great
1:07:05 Pearl on the necklace for certain
1:07:07 um you know project Readiness is a very
1:07:10 important goal with these arpa funds as
1:07:12 well and so we we could certainly dust
1:07:14 that off and take a look at it I would
1:07:17 um I would hesitate in saying moving
1:07:19 those two really important shop
1:07:23 maintenance groups
1:07:25 um is going to be a pretty expensive
1:07:28 Endeavor before we can even invest in
1:07:32 repurposing that place as Parks but we
1:07:34 can take a closer look at that
1:07:37 again just curious given that it is our
1:07:40 Premier uh Park in the valley and not
1:07:43 that I don't love the idea of of doing
1:07:45 something transformative with tidbits I
1:07:47 really do love the idea of of
1:07:48 transforming tidbits I was just curious
1:07:50 given that it is really the centerpiece
1:07:53 including centerpiece of our long-term
1:07:55 plans to transform the creek
1:07:57 thank you
1:08:03 council member says an excellent
1:08:05 question who's on the development
1:08:06 commission when the plan came through
1:08:08 and it is ambitious and there are some
1:08:09 elements to go
1:08:11 the point of the conversation tonight on
1:08:14 the arpa funds is that many of the
1:08:16 things you do are the pieces of a larger
1:08:18 puzzle and you've heard me many many
1:08:20 times talk about your inventory of
1:08:22 facility assets that needs to come back
1:08:24 to you so you can evaluate what you want
1:08:28 to keep where your needs are and how all
1:08:31 those shifting pieces will work some of
1:08:33 that work is happening this year under
1:08:35 director of administrative Services out
1:08:38 of Monahan
1:08:39 but that's just another one of those on
1:08:41 the list of where that goes may be
1:08:43 influenced by which pieces of land you
1:08:45 decide to keep and which pieces of land
1:08:47 you decide to dispose of and just for
1:08:50 council member or Deputy council
1:08:51 president Hall's question again we are
1:08:54 trying as an Administration to find
1:08:56 projects that are ready to go because
1:09:00 while two years may sound like a long
1:09:02 time it's absolutely not and so we're
1:09:05 doing a Transit study we'll get some
1:09:06 information from the transit study
1:09:08 you'll make some decisions you'll make
1:09:10 some recommendations not really sure we
1:09:12 can spend the money by then and so
1:09:14 really want to make sure that we have a
1:09:16 plan that we don't have to give back any
1:09:18 of our arpa dollars and I think if
1:09:20 you're not on Council people don't
1:09:22 realize how so many of the things you
1:09:24 work on are puzzles that have so many
1:09:26 pieces that are happening at different
1:09:28 times my last one is going to be a
1:09:30 council member Ray's question about the
1:09:32 CIP I think there's wide support that
1:09:35 the CIP process lists criteria area
1:09:39 everything be looked at
1:09:41 holistically with the climate action
1:09:44 plan and the master Mobility plan and
1:09:47 get all these documents and these The
1:09:49 Listener and the CIP coordinated and
1:09:52 that's a process you're all going to
1:09:54 have to go through with the community
1:09:55 and so the CIP is the best we have right
1:09:58 now but the CIP may not really look like
1:10:00 that in a couple of years once those
1:10:02 activities of coordinating them happen
1:10:04 so you guys are asking really great
1:10:06 questions I'm not sure if the public
1:10:07 understands how complicated your task is
1:10:09 tonight
1:10:14 okay so I'm going to take a look at the
1:10:16 council see if there are any other
1:10:18 questions okay then at this point I am
1:10:22 going to end our
1:10:24 um questions and ask the clerk if there
1:10:27 are any members of the public who
1:10:30 have indicated and desire to make a
1:10:33 comment
1:10:34 council president we do have a few
1:10:36 members of the public with us let's just
1:10:39 give them a moment if you have interest
1:10:40 in making comments please raise your
1:10:42 virtual hand
1:10:43 or send me the host a comment in the
1:10:48 I'll monitor this for just a moment
1:10:59 all right I'm not seeing anyone indicate
1:11:01 desire to speak
1:11:05 hey that's fantastic then we are going
1:11:08 to move to council discussion and I know
1:11:12 everybody has been raising their mics
1:11:14 all over the place but the big question
1:11:17 is going to be do we want to give a
1:11:20 general sense of thoughts I know the
1:11:23 administration had five questions
1:11:26 um but I heard a lot of questions that
1:11:31 maybe everybody want to go through a
1:11:34 general sense before getting into those
1:11:38 or does anybody feel like we should just
1:11:41 jump into number one
1:11:45 I see one jump in one jump in okay then
1:11:49 you've got the questions up and so let
1:11:53 me see if I
1:11:55 so the first question is does the city
1:11:57 council approve of the mayor's proposal
1:11:59 to spend the remaining arpa funds on
1:12:01 infrastructure including the focus on
1:12:03 transportation and parks and trails
1:12:09 anyone for comments
1:12:13 council member Ray
1:12:15 I'll get us started
1:12:17 um I'm not sold that this is the right
1:12:20 set of priorities I mean I love our
1:12:22 Parks but my recollection is in the
1:12:25 community survey people said parks are
1:12:27 super important and then they said and
1:12:29 parks are super good and when we talked
1:12:32 did the survey people said
1:12:34 transportation is super important and
1:12:36 transportation is super bad and so I
1:12:39 would like to see us flip this around a
1:12:42 little bit I mean we've got the
1:12:43 non-motorized transportation Corridor on
1:12:46 Sammamish road that we've been talking
1:12:48 about for years and you know that's
1:12:50 something we could do
1:12:52 um and you know a couple years ago we
1:12:54 decided we were going to do a light at
1:12:55 Providence Point and we put all of our
1:12:58 investment for that year into that
1:12:59 project and you know what we got it done
1:13:01 and it's making a difference and so I
1:13:03 I'm not you know my colleagues could be
1:13:05 of a different mind I'm just not
1:13:06 convinced this is the community's
1:13:07 priority
1:13:10 thank you
1:13:12 um councilmember D Michelle
1:13:15 thank you
1:13:16 um I'd like to plan a lot and
1:13:20 I really
1:13:22 I want to Echo uh City administrator Bob
1:13:26 kowitz's thoughts about the over under
1:13:28 Crossing
1:13:30 um I think when we were at the Highlands
1:13:32 listening session I said at that time
1:13:34 that we're kind of waving our hands and
1:13:37 jumping up and down and trying to get
1:13:39 Sound Transit and Metro's attention
1:13:42 I absolutely agree that we have to start
1:13:45 spending the money now
1:13:47 we by investing 1 million in in the
1:13:50 design first of all we demonstrate the
1:13:52 city's commitment to long-term Transit
1:13:54 improvements
1:13:56 and that demonstration of commitment I
1:13:58 think is really important we position
1:14:01 ourselves much better to receive County
1:14:03 state federal support and engagement we
1:14:06 demonstrate to developers that the
1:14:08 city's commence commitment to densifying
1:14:10 Central Issaquah Israel so that's a
1:14:13 you know it's all part as as mayor
1:14:16 probably said it's all part of a big
1:14:17 puzzle and uh by taking some actions we
1:14:21 are signaling to a bigger Community what
1:14:25 we are really about when it comes to the
1:14:27 Light Rail station and then finally I
1:14:30 this is I love this proposal because it
1:14:32 helps us to take control of a project
1:14:34 that we've been waiting to for other
1:14:37 agencies to prioritize for other
1:14:40 agencies to recognize and by making this
1:14:43 investment we take control of this
1:14:45 project we move this project forward we
1:14:48 get it ready for
1:14:50 um for the next step and so I I think
1:14:53 it's it's absolutely a great idea to do
1:14:57 the community investment fund
1:15:01 I will try not to get too long-winded on
1:15:03 this one I love this proposal as well so
1:15:06 when I worked at King County Department
1:15:08 of Transportation they also had a
1:15:11 community investment fund like this I
1:15:13 was in charge of doing the community
1:15:14 engagement for it
1:15:16 it was so well received by the
1:15:19 communities that participated in it and
1:15:22 very much followed the guidelines this
1:15:24 is almost precisely exactly what we went
1:15:26 out and did we came up with we presented
1:15:29 the community with specific projects and
1:15:33 then engaged them in the process of
1:15:35 choosing which one and in that process
1:15:38 not only did the community become
1:15:41 engaged they became owners of that
1:15:43 project so it's it's brilliant
1:15:46 especially coming out of a covid to have
1:15:49 this proposal and then the the projects
1:15:53 themselves actually got better because
1:15:55 of the input that we received from the
1:15:57 communities I think it's a great way to
1:16:01 engage our community in discussing
1:16:03 Transportation
1:16:05 helping them to feel ownership of their
1:16:09 community and the way that we go forward
1:16:12 and and put some actual money behind
1:16:15 that a lot of times we go out for
1:16:16 engagement and then they say what
1:16:19 happened but this would be something
1:16:20 that would really happen so
1:16:23 um I don't know if you're ready for me
1:16:24 to talk about the parks that's question
1:16:27 number two should I go ahead
1:16:29 no I'd wait on that let's see what else
1:16:31 we can hear on question number one okay
1:16:34 um council member Joe and then council
1:16:36 member hunt
1:16:38 thank you council president
1:16:41 I think that uh
1:16:44 putting the one million dollars down for
1:16:47 um the Terminus in essence for Sound
1:16:50 Transit is an important stake in the
1:16:53 ground for us you know it says to the
1:16:56 transportation agencies whether they're
1:16:58 state or you know local or what have you
1:17:00 but we're serious about it enough to put
1:17:03 down this one million dollar down
1:17:04 payment as the mayor said and that we
1:17:07 want to start that discussion I kind of
1:17:09 think of it as coming to the poker table
1:17:11 so to speak and saying you know here's
1:17:14 my Annie and here's my stack let's start
1:17:16 talking about what's going to make it
1:17:17 work you don't get to the poker table
1:17:19 unless you put down the money to get to
1:17:22 the tournament we need to put the money
1:17:23 down to get to the tournament and start
1:17:25 talking about it so I'm wholeheartedly
1:17:28 in favor of the one million dollars arpa
1:17:30 funds for the Terminus project involved
1:17:33 in this and I also like the the
1:17:36 investment fund that that will get a
1:17:38 conversation going with our community we
1:17:41 have been talking about getting out in
1:17:42 the communities whether it's going up to
1:17:44 the highlands or having an events in a
1:17:47 park Park where we're inviting the
1:17:49 public to come and talk to us about
1:17:50 their issues and having transportation
1:17:54 as a primary issue out there for
1:17:55 discussion will get that feedback back
1:17:58 from the community that we need to make
1:18:00 those decisions otherwise we're making
1:18:02 decisions in a little bit of a vacuum
1:18:03 and we can get criticized one way or
1:18:06 another for not taking public input but
1:18:08 if we do this process and we carefully
1:18:10 listen to the community I think we're
1:18:12 going to get good projects out of it and
1:18:14 we're going to get some movement on
1:18:15 transportation and so I have to say at
1:18:18 this point thank you
1:18:20 councilmember hunt
1:18:23 thank you I agree with the comments that
1:18:25 have already been made on the over under
1:18:27 Crossing and I think that's a step in
1:18:29 the right direction and I am supportive
1:18:31 of that on the community investment fund
1:18:38 my my initial reaction is that we know
1:18:40 from many Community surveys including
1:18:43 the statistically valid Community survey
1:18:46 that's done every couple years what our
1:18:48 community's priorities are and that
1:18:51 survey in particular is done in a
1:18:54 randomized fashion and they collect
1:18:56 demographic information so I think that
1:18:58 that's really a good source of
1:19:00 information that we already have and I
1:19:02 think we can use that to put some
1:19:04 parameters around what this fund
1:19:07 um could could be to meet the needs of
1:19:10 the community
1:19:12 looking at that fund for again this
1:19:14 community investment I think the things
1:19:18 that rise to the top of that which also
1:19:20 rise to the top of the list in our
1:19:22 Master Mobility plan and in the climate
1:19:25 action plan because of the multimodal
1:19:27 aspect are things like sidewalk
1:19:29 improvements and Street repair so
1:19:32 actually in that Community survey the
1:19:34 infrastructure items that residents
1:19:36 thought should receive emphasis from
1:19:38 city leaders over the next two years two
1:19:40 of the top ones were Street repair and
1:19:42 the conditions of sidewalks so I I think
1:19:44 it could be a great way to engage the
1:19:47 community but I would think that we
1:19:49 should put some parameters around it and
1:19:50 say you know where are the sidewalks
1:19:52 that are the most important for these
1:19:54 connections of these tier one sidewalks
1:19:57 you know which are the ones that would
1:19:58 be most impactful and really make sure
1:20:00 that we are we are addressing those
1:20:03 long-standing Community concerns and
1:20:05 then I think this could be could be good
1:20:07 because we have these long-standing
1:20:08 Community issues that we haven't
1:20:10 especially in established neighborhoods
1:20:12 that we haven't been able to
1:20:15 that we have not been able to address
1:20:18 with with grant funding or other funding
1:20:21 I also think that
1:20:24 the approach here one of the one of the
1:20:28 top Community concerns from the
1:20:30 community survey and that we hear is
1:20:32 around congestion and I I recognize that
1:20:35 that isn't concern and I think we are
1:20:37 taking Smart Steps to do what we can
1:20:39 here with the traffic or the
1:20:41 transportation engineer position looking
1:20:44 to light rail looking to what we can do
1:20:47 for for projects that will improve the
1:20:49 quality of life because my concern is
1:20:52 that yes there is congestion and that is
1:20:54 a real issue but we could also spend a
1:20:56 lot of money and have induced Demand
1:20:59 with all of the regions around us
1:21:01 growing and just more cars going through
1:21:04 Issaquah which would be outside of our
1:21:05 control and and really that I think
1:21:08 would not then meet the
1:21:12 um intent of the arpa funds so I think
1:21:15 we I think that we avoid that outcome
1:21:18 with this and we take the steps that we
1:21:19 can to address congestion which is a
1:21:22 real concern and then we look to what we
1:21:23 can do to improve the quality of life
1:21:24 and transportation
1:21:26 um so that would be my one consideration
1:21:28 for that Community Fund is that we we've
1:21:30 heard time and time again pavement and
1:21:33 sidewalks and I would think that that
1:21:35 should be some parameters on that fund
1:21:40 council member marks thank you so uh I I
1:21:44 support the terminal study
1:21:48 uh the
1:21:51 um having a Community Fund I think is a
1:21:52 great idea coming back to the uh largest
1:21:57 use of the arpa fund you know I'm I'm
1:22:01 looking at the
1:22:03 Capital Finance Community task force
1:22:05 recommendations and I'm really struck by
1:22:08 in the short term there was much uh
1:22:11 there's not a consensus on exactly what
1:22:13 to do in the short term so the
1:22:14 recommendation is mix of projects across
1:22:17 categories per city council which is not
1:22:19 particularly helpful however a medium
1:22:23 term which they talked about Levy lid
1:22:25 lift and TBD sales tax was suggested
1:22:28 Transportation primarily and then the
1:22:31 long-term suggestion was for a Parks
1:22:33 district for parks and trails
1:22:37 and so
1:22:39 um I circled back to council member
1:22:41 raise concern and you know if
1:22:45 um if there was a suggestion of doing
1:22:47 something on the longer term with Parks
1:22:50 um you know using arpa dollars for that
1:22:54 um you know we recently reached out to
1:22:57 the public and had a listening session
1:22:59 and their concern wasn't with Parks
1:23:01 right their concern was with Public
1:23:03 Safety and it was almost exclusively
1:23:06 about public safety and the public felt
1:23:08 very very very very strongly about us
1:23:12 wanting us to do some more Public Safety
1:23:14 so if you said for instance if you did a
1:23:16 thought experiment and you said well
1:23:18 let's just take that 6 million and put
1:23:19 it into the 2.4 million and make 8.4
1:23:22 million and have a community outreach of
1:23:23 8.4 which would be big I grant you
1:23:27 um I think the public would tell us
1:23:28 they'd want us to spend it on as you
1:23:30 mentioned roads and traffic and Public
1:23:33 Safety and um while Parks was listed in
1:23:37 the report in the quadrant that said
1:23:40 continued investment and continued focus
1:23:43 it to councilmember Ray's point it
1:23:46 wasn't in the quadrant of uh important
1:23:49 and uh broken right it was in the
1:23:51 category of uh important and and working
1:23:54 well so I continue to struggle with the
1:23:56 mix I guess is where I'm at
1:23:59 um I look at 2.4 million I look at the
1:24:02 terminal study absolutely 100 a
1:24:04 community engagement effort all for it I
1:24:06 think we're gonna hear a lot of Public
1:24:08 Safety and maybe some about social
1:24:10 services
1:24:11 if we go ask the public because that's
1:24:13 what they told us uh two weeks ago and
1:24:17 then I just don't know about 6 million
1:24:19 for Parks right now with the
1:24:21 recommendation that we got from the
1:24:23 Capital Finance Community task force I
1:24:25 just don't know with with the guidance
1:24:27 that it gave to make that a long-term
1:24:28 thing and look at a Parks District it
1:24:30 doesn't feel like uh we'd be focusing on
1:24:33 that so
1:24:34 that's where I'm at I I think parks are
1:24:37 super important and they're a critical
1:24:39 part of our quality of life here but
1:24:42 this mix of taking six million of the
1:24:44 nine and 9.4 and using it for Parks I'm
1:24:47 not sure I feel great about
1:24:50 I don't feel great about thank you thank
1:24:54 you and checking other council members
1:24:59 okay counts
1:25:01 we'll just go down the line
1:25:03 councilmember Joe and yeah yeah
1:25:06 um if I could just say a brief comment
1:25:09 on councilmember Martz
1:25:12 um I I think that
1:25:14 we all like would like to have the money
1:25:17 spent on particular things that that you
1:25:20 know Transportation what have you
1:25:22 we also need to think about the timing
1:25:25 of the spending though we have to spend
1:25:27 it within two years or we lose it I'm
1:25:29 not sure we can do a transportation
1:25:30 project bringing in dot or County or
1:25:35 whatever partner we need to bring in for
1:25:36 some of these projects to get them done
1:25:38 in two years it took us
1:25:41 you know how many weeks to get water to
1:25:43 New Orleans after the hurricane I mean
1:25:46 that's not that's the federal government
1:25:47 mind you but what I'm saying is
1:25:49 government moves slow and we have more
1:25:51 control over parks and what we can do
1:25:53 with them because all our property it's
1:25:56 our equipment that we're bringing in
1:25:58 it's our people that are doing it I
1:26:01 think we can spend that within the two
1:26:02 years I'm not
1:26:04 entirely certain that we have the
1:26:06 ability to spend the arpa funds and
1:26:07 tears on a transportation project but
1:26:10 you know I'd be happy to look at each
1:26:12 one of them as we kind of analyze them
1:26:13 and parse them out and if the
1:26:15 administration says yeah we can get that
1:26:17 done in the two years with the
1:26:18 Partnerships that we have and the
1:26:20 relationships that we have fantastic but
1:26:22 just a word of caution there
1:26:27 councilmember day Michelle
1:26:30 so uh to council member Mart's comments
1:26:33 as well when I read the proposal for the
1:26:37 community investment fund I didn't see
1:26:39 uh that that was a community engagement
1:26:42 process that was open-ended
1:26:47 I saw some very careful parameters
1:26:50 around how they were going to go out and
1:26:53 I really think we're going to ask the
1:26:55 community to choose between one two
1:26:57 three five you know whatever it may be
1:26:59 projects and to give input on those
1:27:02 projects which is again exactly what we
1:27:05 did at King County and we're not asking
1:27:07 for input on their other priorities or
1:27:11 other items and we're asking them to
1:27:14 engage
1:27:15 specifically on let's how do we
1:27:18 prioritize these set of projects which
1:27:21 isn't something that we've gone out and
1:27:23 asked them before so so I think that and
1:27:26 I think that's a very valid and very
1:27:28 useful parameters to put around that
1:27:31 Community engagement I think it yields
1:27:33 really good results
1:27:37 I also wanted to talk to the to the
1:27:39 parks issue I really I really like this
1:27:44 and I have now that visit Issaquah is
1:27:49 reinvigorated I've been following them I
1:27:52 get their newsletter and I am just
1:27:54 surprised I shouldn't be but I've been
1:27:56 surprised by how many times they are
1:27:59 touting our green our Parks our Trails
1:28:02 you know all of the recreational
1:28:05 facilities that we have so it's a real
1:28:07 tourist engine too and that brings
1:28:10 tourist dollars to US that's the
1:28:12 economic Engine That councilmember Hall
1:28:14 was talking about
1:28:16 and I also think the focus there is it
1:28:19 you know let's make an investment in one
1:28:21 of these anchors let's not spread the
1:28:24 money around let's make a six million
1:28:25 dollar high impact investment on one you
1:28:30 know and my only problem with that is
1:28:32 it's like deciding between three
1:28:34 beautiful kids and saying which one gets
1:28:36 to go to college you you know they're
1:28:39 all wonderful projects and they will all
1:28:41 be wonderful assets and they would all
1:28:42 bring Economic Development to Issaquah
1:28:45 so I'm struggling with with which one
1:28:47 would be but I think the idea of making
1:28:50 that strong investment not spreading
1:28:52 around our money so thinly that we don't
1:28:54 really get anything big out of it but
1:28:57 putting it into one project and making
1:28:59 that a really strong high impact project
1:29:02 is really a good idea and a good
1:29:05 proposal thank you
1:29:07 council member hunt
1:29:09 thank you
1:29:11 so I think the conversation has moved
1:29:13 into question two so I'm going to start
1:29:15 on the response as far as the parks and
1:29:19 um when I was looking at this the first
1:29:22 at first I I had I think some of the
1:29:26 similar concerns as far as lining this
1:29:30 up with long-standing community
1:29:32 community concerns for our
1:29:35 infrastructure I do think though after
1:29:39 thinking about this a lot and looking
1:29:42 back at the community survey I think
1:29:45 um arpa this funding really is a
1:29:48 provides a historic
1:29:52 time where we can fully fund some things
1:29:56 that we would not otherwise be able to
1:29:58 do in cities have these long-standing
1:30:01 lists of infrastructure issues and I I
1:30:04 think showing that this is what we would
1:30:07 do with this funding it's it is a really
1:30:09 unique opportunity and
1:30:11 focusing that funding will better allow
1:30:14 us to to show
1:30:17 um the results
1:30:19 and give something back to the community
1:30:21 so so that sort of central reason for
1:30:25 the focus of the funding in the Parks it
1:30:28 does resonate with me
1:30:30 um when I was looking at the specifics
1:30:32 of the parks
1:30:34 um you know I go back to this questions
1:30:36 in the community survey about the
1:30:38 infrastructure items that residents
1:30:39 thought should receive emphasis from
1:30:41 city leaders over the next two years the
1:30:43 first two I already talked about the
1:30:45 third one is actually walking and biking
1:30:46 trails so Parks does have high
1:30:50 satisfaction they are amazing our open
1:30:52 space is also amazing and we we do need
1:30:55 to maintain that there's High
1:30:56 satisfaction as well as high importance
1:30:57 for those in that quadrant where we
1:31:01 don't have as much
1:31:03 where one of the areas where we don't
1:31:05 have satisfaction is actually second in
1:31:08 terms of congestion and then the next
1:31:09 thing that's high in that high
1:31:12 importance low satisfaction quadrant is
1:31:14 planning zoning and growth and so when I
1:31:18 look at this list the one that stands
1:31:19 out to me on the anchor Parks is
1:31:22 potentially the creek Corridor because
1:31:25 we need to plan for growth that that
1:31:28 Corridor actually connects all the all
1:31:31 the parks including Confluence as well
1:31:33 as Tibbetts and Memorial so if we think
1:31:35 about it I you know which beautiful
1:31:37 child gets to go to college this I think
1:31:39 improves the potential for all of these
1:31:42 parks to thrive it connects them and we
1:31:45 actually don't own all the land on that
1:31:47 one so for that one it's it's more
1:31:50 unique to me it has some some
1:31:53 things that I think would resonate with
1:31:55 the community because it shows we're
1:31:56 planning for growth it shows that you
1:31:57 know now is the time these properties
1:31:59 will be more expensive in the future now
1:32:00 is the time to actually make this happen
1:32:02 we talk a lot about that we're planning
1:32:04 this connected
1:32:07 connected green necklace but really it's
1:32:09 it's on paper at this point and we do
1:32:12 expect growth and we expect this to be a
1:32:14 huge Community Asset so maybe this could
1:32:16 tie into that need and show that we are
1:32:20 planning for growth and planning to make
1:32:21 sure that as we grow we maintain this
1:32:24 very special quality of having these
1:32:26 Open Spaces that are so important for
1:32:28 quality of life here
1:32:31 um so I thought you know we also have
1:32:33 this unique opportunity with Title 18
1:32:35 where we're redoing our our code and
1:32:37 we're talking about how to make private
1:32:40 um private properties along this
1:32:42 Corridor uh work with this vision of the
1:32:45 green necklace and so it seemed to me
1:32:46 that this is one that lines well with
1:32:49 this long-standing issue that the
1:32:50 community does have that says important
1:32:52 and also low satisfaction which is
1:32:54 Planning and Zoning
1:32:56 um so that was that was my my thoughts
1:32:58 on those I I recognize that Parks
1:33:00 generally have this High satisfaction
1:33:03 but it seems to me that this is one area
1:33:05 where the community would like to see
1:33:07 more and we could take a big step and
1:33:10 and actually make this green necklace
1:33:12 come alive so
1:33:16 that ultimately is where I landed on if
1:33:18 this was addressing the needs of arpa if
1:33:21 it was supporting Community quality of
1:33:23 life and um if it was sort of rising to
1:33:26 the opportunity that we have for this
1:33:28 historic funding
1:33:32 council member Ray
1:33:34 thank you I I'm going to go back to one
1:33:36 for a second then I'll move on to two
1:33:38 since I think we're jumping ahead
1:33:40 um so I didn't comment on the funding
1:33:43 for the over underpass and Sound Transit
1:33:46 which I am completely supportive of the
1:33:48 million dollars but I actually think
1:33:50 it's probably more than that and I think
1:33:52 I would rather invest more and and to
1:33:55 steal from council member Joe I'd like
1:33:57 to bigger bring a bigger set of chips to
1:33:59 the party or to the game and uh
1:34:01 definitely um demonstrate commitment
1:34:03 because it's the best way to move
1:34:05 washdot and it's best way to move Sound
1:34:08 Transit and I think we can make a bigger
1:34:11 commitment there on to Parks I'm still
1:34:14 struggling with this one because I don't
1:34:16 know if it's a park or Parks because
1:34:17 when I look at question number two it
1:34:19 says invest in one of the city anchor
1:34:21 Parks so it's a singular not a plural so
1:34:24 I I don't and and it gets really to the
1:34:26 heart of my problem with with the anchor
1:34:30 Park thing is I don't know what it is I
1:34:32 don't know where it is I don't know what
1:34:33 it is I don't know what we're going to
1:34:35 do so I can't say yeah that's a great
1:34:38 investment because I don't have any idea
1:34:39 what we're going to do so without any
1:34:41 specificity about what that six million
1:34:43 dollars is going to do to some Park
1:34:45 which I don't know which it is or where
1:34:47 they are could be more than one I just
1:34:50 can't say yeah that's a great idea so
1:34:52 that that's my biggest problem there is
1:34:53 I just don't know what it is and so it
1:34:55 might be a great idea might be a
1:34:57 credible idea so help me understand what
1:34:58 it is
1:35:02 uh councilmember Mertz did you want to
1:35:06 nope okay Deputy council president Hall
1:35:09 uh thank you I have uh some very unbaked
1:35:13 unfinished and
1:35:15 raw remarks
1:35:18 um so just bear with me
1:35:20 um actually I guess the first remark
1:35:22 I'll make is I don't think the handful
1:35:24 of days that I spent preparing for this
1:35:26 was enough so I'm sure many of the
1:35:33 Direction neat you know many of the
1:35:35 areas that need direction will evolve
1:35:37 for me over time between now and the
1:35:39 July 5th meeting
1:35:42 um I just think these are
1:35:46 really important questions in a heck of
1:35:48 a lot of money that it's really hard to
1:35:50 make a decision in just a couple days if
1:35:52 yes I agree with this proposal or no I
1:35:54 don't so
1:35:56 um that being said the I-90 Crossing
1:35:58 Light Rail station planning definitely
1:36:00 in favor of that thank you um City
1:36:02 administrator Bob quits for letting me
1:36:04 ask the probing question to get that
1:36:06 that answer I think that was perfect and
1:36:07 exactly what we needed
1:36:09 the community investment fund
1:36:13 I think I'm I'm of two minds on this I
1:36:16 think in the perfect world it's great
1:36:18 you know I think you look at cities like
1:36:20 Seattle or other major cities that have
1:36:22 the kind of community-based budgeting
1:36:24 systems where they have kind of a pot of
1:36:26 money and then go out to a community to
1:36:28 say what is it that what are your needs
1:36:29 and what do you want you've seen it work
1:36:31 really well and successfully in these
1:36:33 communities
1:36:35 um and
1:36:37 how this is described with the
1:36:38 parameters parameters is I think
1:36:41 something I could I could live with and
1:36:43 be supportive of
1:36:44 we also have lists of projects with
1:36:47 Community significance already though so
1:36:50 you know I sometimes have conversations
1:36:52 with residents when I kind of probe this
1:36:55 question and say well you know when we
1:36:57 have money it's really good to go out
1:36:59 and kind of ask what you need and every
1:37:01 now and then someone says I've already
1:37:03 told you what I need like I've already
1:37:05 come to this meeting I've provided
1:37:07 Community engagement like we elect you
1:37:09 to make the decisions about what's best
1:37:11 for our community too so I'm kind of of
1:37:13 two minds there
1:37:16 and uh that is not very good direction
1:37:18 but I'm just going to leave it at as
1:37:22 um this will also not be very good
1:37:23 direction
1:37:24 um for the anchor Parks
1:37:25 um improvements
1:37:27 um I don't know yet
1:37:29 um it's clear to me that investments in
1:37:31 Parks have great benefit see Issaquah to
1:37:35 creating the kinds of economic
1:37:37 Prosperity that we want with arpa
1:37:39 funding to having something to point to
1:37:42 made possible by federal dollars in
1:37:45 historic Federal investment but I'm also
1:37:47 of a similar mind to
1:37:50 councilmember Ray I guess I'm just not
1:37:53 yet convinced that it's the best use of
1:37:56 arpa dollars I'm convinced it's a good
1:37:58 use of City dollars period but I'm not
1:38:01 convinced it's the best use of arpa
1:38:03 dollars yet I I
1:38:05 um am definitely pliable at this point
1:38:07 though I think um uh State administrator
1:38:09 Bob Quinn's made a pretty compelling
1:38:11 point for it I think um an emphasis on
1:38:14 our Creek Corridor is also interesting
1:38:16 and compelling point
1:38:20 yeah I think I think this is tough and
1:38:22 I'm going to need some more time to to
1:38:23 digest it
1:38:25 um because at if we were taking a snap
1:38:27 pull right now I I still think that
1:38:29 using all of all or the vast majority of
1:38:32 arpa dollars on Mobility projects would
1:38:35 be the best use of arpa dollars in my
1:38:37 mind but again I'm convincible the other
1:38:42 so I'm going to take a moment to comment
1:38:44 on one and two
1:38:47 I think I come to this knowing that our
1:38:51 budget season is just a few months away
1:38:54 and I approach any bucket of money
1:38:59 whether it's budget or arpa if you if
1:39:03 you gave me a bucket of money and you
1:39:05 said this has to be spent within two
1:39:08 years which is the same thing that
1:39:09 you're going to say for Budget season
1:39:14 if I'm going to evaluate the projects on
1:39:16 that I'm going to look back at the
1:39:18 community survey and I'm going to say
1:39:20 what does the community just satisfied
1:39:22 with what do we need to do if it is
1:39:26 one-time funds
1:39:29 um are there capital or infrastructure
1:39:33 or one-time spend that we can make or is
1:39:37 this something that's more up ongoing
1:39:40 revenue and operations costs and hiring
1:39:44 and things like that so when I go and
1:39:48 look at this in specific
1:39:52 if I was looking at this from a
1:39:53 budgeting standpoint I would never
1:39:56 propose putting forward six million
1:39:59 dollars to plan an anchor Park
1:40:04 I don't think that is what our community
1:40:08 has said
1:40:10 they need right now
1:40:12 and so I think if we are respecting what
1:40:16 the community has said they've said
1:40:18 infrastructure
1:40:21 um they've said transportation we have
1:40:25 certainly heard through the community
1:40:27 survey that funding for sidewalks and
1:40:29 Street Maintenance
1:40:31 um I just don't see
1:40:34 Parks a six million dollar Parks
1:40:37 planning project as
1:40:40 you want to correct
1:40:43 if if I may so the six million dollars
1:40:45 wouldn't be a six million dollar plan it
1:40:49 would be phase one of implementing the
1:40:52 master plan so we would finish that
1:40:54 visioning process this year and then
1:40:56 permitting and design would be next year
1:40:58 and then construction would be the year
1:41:01 following so it's not just a plan it
1:41:03 would be implementation of the plan an
1:41:05 actual Construction
1:41:07 can you tell me what the difference is
1:41:09 between phase one and just doing the
1:41:13 full thing what does that mean yeah it's
1:41:15 a great question I think we anticipate
1:41:17 that some of these anchor Parks they're
1:41:20 big they have big needs and the
1:41:23 community is going to be re-envisioning
1:41:25 them for future years to come so the six
1:41:27 million dollars likely wouldn't pay for
1:41:29 the entirety of the plan uh that is
1:41:33 envisioned by the community but would
1:41:35 um it make really good progress on the
1:41:39 first phase which is still be to be
1:41:42 determined from that Community
1:41:43 engagement process
1:41:48 there's a community engagement process
1:41:50 related to the Anchor parks are related
1:41:54 yes I'm sorry it's getting confusing but
1:41:57 we're talking about a visioning and
1:41:59 scoping process to kind of pick up where
1:42:02 we left off with that Master planning
1:42:03 process which began before the pandemic
1:42:06 so we'd pick up where we left off with
1:42:08 that process finish that visioning and
1:42:11 scoping process through more Community
1:42:13 engagement then once we've developed
1:42:16 that vision and scoping which again
1:42:18 should be by the end of this year next
1:42:20 year would be more about design
1:42:22 permitting and then the following year
1:42:24 construction so we we are proposing six
1:42:27 million dollars for those three years to
1:42:29 cover not only the finishing of the
1:42:31 planning process the permitting process
1:42:33 and design process but also
1:42:35 implementation
1:42:37 okay then I will take a bit of a step
1:42:40 back and say
1:42:42 gosh six million dollars is a lot but
1:42:46 I would really need to get a sense of
1:42:51 what that phase one would accomplish and
1:42:54 which of these anchor Park projects we
1:42:58 are ultimately talking about
1:43:01 so to continue on with the rest of my
1:43:04 comments on questions one and two
1:43:11 like focusing on infrastructure I
1:43:14 disagree with the prioritization of
1:43:16 parks I do support the I-90 over under
1:43:19 Crossing funding I agree that we might
1:43:22 need more than one million dollars on
1:43:25 that but I'm a little bit hesitant to
1:43:28 put a lot of money into that without
1:43:32 knowing that the other stakeholders are
1:43:35 actually willing to engage with us I
1:43:38 think yes we need to put money down to
1:43:41 get them to come to the table but
1:43:44 just like if I look at our park
1:43:46 strategic plan and all of the money that
1:43:48 we've put into that planning I get
1:43:50 really hesitant about putting a large
1:43:52 amount of money into planning something
1:43:55 that may not be something we have a
1:43:58 whole lot of control over
1:44:00 so those are my comments on one and two
1:44:04 I see a few mics up our responses or
1:44:10 um council member Ray council member
1:44:13 so member marks
1:44:16 so uh Deputy City administrator when you
1:44:19 describe the process of doing some
1:44:20 Outreach to the community and then doing
1:44:23 planning next year and doing execution
1:44:25 the year after
1:44:27 um I I guess and I I want to say that I
1:44:30 would say this respectfully I I'm having
1:44:32 a hard time buying the argument that
1:44:33 it's a lot easier to do that with Parks
1:44:35 than it is to do with some
1:44:37 infrastructure improvements or
1:44:38 Transportation improvements if we're
1:44:41 talking the scope of six million dollars
1:44:43 and things that we might be able to do
1:44:45 to move the needle they seem about you
1:44:48 you step back and sort of squint and it
1:44:51 they're both you know call it 50 FTE
1:44:54 years worth of Staff right or maybe 30
1:44:57 to 50 FTE years worth of Staff right and
1:45:00 whether that's Park staff or whether
1:45:01 that's
1:45:02 you know engineering and Facilities
1:45:05 staff it seems six of one half dozen of
1:45:08 the other so you know when we come back
1:45:11 and talk further I mean that's a further
1:45:14 concern that I have why not you know one
1:45:16 not Transportation why not
1:45:17 infrastructure when you described that
1:45:19 process to me of what we would need to
1:45:21 do with Parks it's like yeah just take
1:45:22 the word Parks out and replace that with
1:45:24 transportation and infrastructure so and
1:45:27 if I may I I I can't get over the the
1:45:31 thought that we're not communicating
1:45:33 properly
1:45:35 transportation is really important we
1:45:37 have a master Mobility plan we've hired
1:45:39 staff at the council's direction and
1:45:41 funding to continue moving forward with
1:45:43 this we are working at the greatest
1:45:45 diligence and speed on these
1:45:48 Transportation projects if the council
1:45:50 says work with greater diligence and
1:45:52 speed we can do that with some projects
1:45:55 but not every project that is a part of
1:45:58 the master Mobility plan is within our
1:46:00 control and so as we talk with our
1:46:02 transportation engineers and we say the
1:46:05 city council wants you to work as
1:46:07 quickly as possible their response to us
1:46:09 is great we have a step here that we
1:46:11 have to spend a wash Dot and then we
1:46:14 an undetermined period of time when that
1:46:16 happens and the city council still wants
1:46:19 us to move with diligence and speed but
1:46:21 we sometimes can't because of that so
1:46:24 work wanting to move forward we've heard
1:46:26 about the East lace to manage multimodal
1:46:28 the city council at your last budget
1:46:29 said get it done
1:46:31 find the money we will fund it get it
1:46:33 done and so our Engineers are working
1:46:35 with this and we're working with the
1:46:37 greatest diligence and speed but is not
1:46:39 all within our control
1:46:41 so that is part of the conundrum with
1:46:43 Transportation projects you could say
1:46:45 take six million dollars and spend it on
1:46:47 the transportation projects we could
1:46:48 staff up and some of them have other
1:46:51 stakeholders that are beyond our control
1:46:53 and so it's really important I think
1:46:55 from the administration's perspective
1:46:57 that you understand that's we're not
1:46:59 pushing back on Transportation we're
1:47:01 simply saying this is these are Big
1:47:03 questions these are Big projects and
1:47:06 some of them cost lots more than even
1:47:08 the six million dollars we have
1:47:10 available for arpa the community's done
1:47:13 a park planning project we have a park
1:47:15 master plan we have that if the council
1:47:18 says we want to do one Park not go out
1:47:21 look at all three that will speed things
1:47:23 up even further so I mean the the issues
1:47:27 with the transportation projects
1:47:29 are broader than just hiring up staff
1:47:31 and going because of those additional
1:47:33 stakeholders again we're prepared to go
1:47:36 as fast as we can but again some of
1:47:39 these projects ultimately once they're
1:47:40 designed will cost far in excess to six
1:47:42 million dollars
1:47:43 others require the the stakeholders so
1:47:46 Madam council president I think the
1:47:50 administration's I'm just concerned that
1:47:52 you're
1:47:53 not hearing the word full support of
1:47:55 moving forward as diligently as we can
1:47:57 and additional money is helpful but will
1:48:00 not get us to move fast as perhaps some
1:48:01 of you think we'll be able to move as
1:48:04 mm-hmm so so are you saying that if we
1:48:08 said you must spend that six million on
1:48:10 Transportation in the next 24 months are
1:48:13 you saying that the administration there
1:48:14 just isn't a way to spend that money
1:48:17 intelligently is that is that what
1:48:19 you're saying
1:48:21 we may have difficulties and and council
1:48:23 president when you think appropriate
1:48:25 Robert Hamad the Chief Financial Officer
1:48:27 is on the line uh we'd like to talk a
1:48:29 little bit more about the time frames
1:48:31 associated with the dollars we've not
1:48:33 really dealt with that in particular
1:48:35 terms this evening but uh We've not we
1:48:38 believe there's some other flexibility
1:48:39 that we have with those dollars so that
1:48:41 that 24-month clock uh perhaps is not as
1:48:44 rigorous as we once thought through this
1:48:46 process so we'd like to share that
1:48:48 information as an appropriate point but
1:48:50 I think the short answer to your
1:48:52 question council member marks is forget
1:48:53 about our requirements just the college
1:48:56 courses spending the money we're not
1:48:58 convinced that we could spend it in 24
1:49:00 months or perhaps even 36 months because
1:49:03 of some of the other constraints and I'm
1:49:06 sorry my back is to you Andrea but uh
1:49:09 that's important to say we want to do
1:49:11 these things quickly we have the the
1:49:14 plan we want to implement it it's just a
1:49:16 matter of how and what are the
1:49:18 parameters in doing that
1:49:21 thank you
1:49:23 council member hunt
1:49:27 Q I wanted to respond to the
1:49:30 um the planning comments that you
1:49:33 council president Walsh made
1:49:35 um so I completely agree and had similar
1:49:38 concern about plan a plan is not in
1:49:41 itself transformative and is not in
1:49:43 itself delivering I think the
1:49:45 transformative improvements the quality
1:49:47 of life that we're looking for with this
1:49:50 again historical opportunity we have
1:49:52 with ARP funding so completely agree
1:49:54 with that and thought it might be
1:49:55 helpful to point or to to
1:49:59 quote some of the numbers from our last
1:50:01 CIP on cost so Confluence Park it it
1:50:04 says here 28 million dollar overall
1:50:06 project cost Veterans Memorial
1:50:09 Park 17 million and then Creek Corridor
1:50:13 is 6 million so for the for
1:50:16 implementation I do think if we're
1:50:18 talking about like wanting to get
1:50:19 something done which I think we do it
1:50:22 would be potentially a piece of one of
1:50:24 these projects unless somebody wants to
1:50:26 correct me but you know if we get into
1:50:30 implementation and wanting to prioritize
1:50:32 based on wanting to have on the ground
1:50:35 the projects done I think looking at the
1:50:38 size of these different projects and
1:50:40 completion would would then be good but
1:50:42 you know based on this conversation
1:50:43 first coming to an agreement about
1:50:45 about
1:50:47 is this the impact of the funds again is
1:50:50 this the impact we want to have with the
1:50:52 funds again I think there is an argument
1:50:53 to be made that it would really improve
1:50:56 the quality of life and would deliver on
1:50:58 our lagging Investments on
1:51:00 infrastructure which is what we what we
1:51:03 um are trying to do with arpa funds
1:51:06 um so I I think the argument is is there
1:51:09 and is solid but again just wanted to
1:51:11 point out the very different costs for
1:51:13 the different anchor projects at least
1:51:14 in our CIP
1:51:17 thank you
1:51:18 so we are at a point I think we've made
1:51:22 our comments on questions one and two
1:51:26 um is anybody ready to go on to question
1:51:29 number three which is about the
1:51:30 community investment fund concept
1:51:34 or might I propose a five minute break
1:51:38 because we've been sitting here for two
1:51:41 hours
1:51:42 that okay I'm gonna go with a five
1:51:45 minute break and so we will come back at
1:51:48 8 57. thank you
1:58:16 okay we are back and I just want to take
1:58:19 a moment to talk to to the council and
1:58:22 try and figure out how we want to
1:58:25 approach these next three questions
1:58:27 because we will be coming back on July
1:58:31 5th but I think we've we've taken a
1:58:34 little bit of a break we have a little
1:58:35 bit of energy to move on
1:58:38 do we want to have people address all
1:58:43 three questions so the questions are
1:58:46 Community investment fund another one
1:58:49 related to spending down ending fund
1:58:52 balance and additional proposed
1:58:54 positions and then the fifth question is
1:58:57 feedback on timing for medium term
1:58:59 actions so
1:59:05 comments any thoughts preferences on how
1:59:09 we approach
1:59:12 Deputy council president
1:59:14 um I think it might be best if we do
1:59:15 question three and four together maybe
1:59:17 each of us could provide feedback on all
1:59:20 of three and four and then five seems
1:59:22 like a good kind of separate enough
1:59:24 thing that we could then go back through
1:59:26 everyone else on that one
1:59:28 does that sound good
1:59:29 okay hearing no others
1:59:32 um so we're looking for feedback on the
1:59:35 community investment fund concept and
1:59:37 the question number four related to
1:59:40 spending down the ending fund balance
1:59:41 and additional proposed positions
1:59:45 I'm not seeing any mics jumping up all
1:59:48 at once so council member Ray oh yeah I
1:59:51 will jump in um Community investment
1:59:53 fund concept
1:59:54 um I think it's it's a great idea I like
1:59:56 the idea of Outreach I like sending out
1:59:57 setting aside a bucket of money to to do
2:00:00 that and focusing on smaller
2:00:02 transportation and Parks Trails projects
2:00:04 I think that's all great
2:00:06 um I think the criteria are good
2:00:08 um in terms of the positions the only
2:00:10 feedback I would have is we have the one
2:00:13 term limited position which makes
2:00:14 perfect sense it's for parks and if we
2:00:17 did that
2:00:19 what's the long-term funding plan for
2:00:21 the two new or the three new positions
2:00:23 in transportation would be the only
2:00:25 thing because if uh we're using a spend
2:00:29 um initially do we have
2:00:31 um you know what's our ending fund
2:00:33 balance look like I I have a suspicion
2:00:34 that we're probably good in the long run
2:00:36 but I just would like to see that played
2:00:39 out so that's my thoughts quickly
2:00:44 Deputy council president Hull uh sure
2:00:46 thanks I also have quick thoughts on
2:00:48 these uh two questions
2:00:51 um you know moving forward with the
2:00:53 community investment fund Pro concept I
2:00:56 agree that we should keep it in focus on
2:00:58 kind of smaller transportation of parks
2:01:00 and trails projects especially because 2
2:01:02 million is 2 million for the in the
2:01:05 grand scheme of things there's not a
2:01:07 whole lot of money so keeping it small
2:01:08 will actually make meaningful
2:01:10 deliverables for the community to
2:01:12 actually see that their decisions had an
2:01:15 impact right
2:01:16 um does council have any changes uh no
2:01:18 no changes to the selection criteria I
2:01:20 appreciate that it's you know really
2:01:22 focused on kind of timeline and eligible
2:01:25 eligibility but then also on the
2:01:28 categories that were already talked over
2:01:31 and over for a couple meetings I think
2:01:33 at the Capitol Finance Community task
2:01:34 force so I think those are good
2:01:36 um and then feedback on the proposed
2:01:39 next step of going to the committee
2:01:41 um is there anything in particular the
2:01:43 administration is looking for foreign
2:01:44 that item in particular I guess I don't
2:01:47 have any feedback on it going to a
2:01:49 committee meeting the next committee
2:01:50 meeting but
2:01:52 other options would be whether that
2:01:54 comes back to the committee of the whole
2:01:59 um well being biased as I'm on that
2:02:01 committee I'm perfectly fine with it
2:02:02 going to the mobility and infrastructure
2:02:04 committee
2:02:05 um oh yeah that got some mics up
2:02:09 I'm I'm still fine with it
2:02:12 um and then any feedback on spending
2:02:14 doubt no spending down fund balance I
2:02:16 was glad to see that that in this
2:02:18 proposal in line with the task force
2:02:20 recommendations
2:02:23 using it on
2:02:25 proposed new positions as well as a few
2:02:28 other things is certainly a great use
2:02:30 for those funds so thank you
2:02:33 council member March then council member
2:02:36 thank you uh
2:02:38 uh yes
2:02:45 uh yes
2:02:47 so uh yeah no I mean I uh yes uh it's a
2:02:52 it's a fine idea the focuses are fine
2:02:55 um uh send it to Mobility infrastructure
2:02:58 um why not bring send the fund into the
2:03:03 Committees but the uh going down to 15
2:03:06 we have ample evidence that using 15 to
2:03:09 20 results in getting us 25 to 35 to 40
2:03:12 percent any fund balance so uh shooting
2:03:15 for 15 will maybe get us closer to
2:03:17 something like 20 which is what I really
2:03:19 like to see so yeah I I support all of
2:03:23 it thank you
2:03:25 councilmember hunt
2:03:28 yes so I agree with the community
2:03:31 investment fund concept I would add a
2:03:34 criteria
2:03:35 which you you kind of can get to from
2:03:39 the existing criteria because one of the
2:03:41 criteria is ability to be completed
2:03:43 within arpa timeline and then another is
2:03:44 to address pain points in the city but
2:03:46 from the community survey we do have
2:03:49 um infrastructure items that City should
2:03:52 focus on in the next two years and those
2:03:54 are Street repair and condition of
2:03:56 sidewalk at the top two so I would I
2:03:59 would add that criteria that they be
2:04:01 things that the community specifically
2:04:02 said we should focus on in the next two
2:04:03 years because that kind of encompasses
2:04:05 multiple
2:04:07 aspects of the challenge here and we
2:04:10 have Community survey data on what those
2:04:12 things are
2:04:13 um and then yes agree to the sending to
2:04:17 the mobility infrastructure committee
2:04:22 on the ending fund balance completely
2:04:24 agree with council member Martz
2:04:28 council member D Michelle and
2:04:30 councilmember Joe
2:04:32 um a very similar questions I agree with
2:04:35 Community investment fund I don't have
2:04:38 any suggestions for the project
2:04:39 selection criteria although I like
2:04:42 council member Hunt's thoughts
2:04:45 um yes please do send it to mobility and
2:04:48 infrastructure love to get my hands on
2:04:50 it thank you very much and
2:04:53 um yeah I agree with council member
2:04:54 Martz on the uh
2:04:56 taking down the ending fund balance so
2:04:59 that's it
2:05:05 I agree with counts council member Martz
2:05:08 thank you no
2:05:10 um that being said
2:05:12 um I I believe that number four spending
2:05:16 down the ending fund balance is is
2:05:17 pretty important because
2:05:19 the money is
2:05:21 our taxpayers money it's my they've
2:05:23 already given us and put in trust to us
2:05:27 to use you know and use wisely so
2:05:30 um putting that getting that fund
2:05:33 balance down to reasonable amount so
2:05:35 that we still plan for a rainy day
2:05:37 but are spending the money wisely I I
2:05:40 think that's a great thing to do and
2:05:41 then um
2:05:42 the small Focus the focus on small
2:05:45 Transportation projects that's fantastic
2:05:47 I don't have any suggestions for changes
2:05:50 in the selection criteria
2:05:52 and um yes I'm chair of the mobility and
2:05:55 infrastructure committee I would just
2:05:57 love to have this back in front of us
2:05:59 for additional discussion and maybe
2:06:02 members of the public will have some
2:06:03 time to digest this a little bit and
2:06:05 give us some other comments as well
2:06:07 thank you
2:06:09 okay I'm gonna dive into my comments
2:06:13 um on the community investment fund I
2:06:16 mean generally
2:06:20 generally I think we should be focusing
2:06:22 more on Transportation than parks and
2:06:26 trails so depending on if we go forward
2:06:30 with an anchor Park project that I am
2:06:32 absolutely in favor of a community
2:06:35 investment fund focused on
2:06:37 Transportation
2:06:38 but toward that idea I don't think two
2:06:41 million dollars is enough I don't think
2:06:43 it's enough to get much of anything done
2:06:45 and unless you can really give me a set
2:06:49 of proposals that actually get some
2:06:54 things done I think I'm going to come
2:06:56 back to this and say okay if you've got
2:06:59 a bunch of one million dollar projects
2:07:03 are we just gonna pick the top two and
2:07:04 just it feels a little bit light
2:07:08 um then on the next one I appreciate
2:07:11 what councilmember hunt said about the
2:07:13 project selection criteria and having it
2:07:15 be from a pre
2:07:18 set of list of community priorities
2:07:22 um that have already been indicated
2:07:24 and yes I agree it should go to the
2:07:28 mobility and infrastructure committee
2:07:31 on the topic of spending down ending
2:07:34 fund balance in the additional proposed
2:07:36 positions
2:07:38 um on the proposed positions like
2:07:40 council member Ray I just have concerns
2:07:43 and I would need addressed what the
2:07:46 continuing
2:07:48 positions what the funding mechanism is
2:07:51 going to be in the future because I
2:07:53 certainly wouldn't want to hire someone
2:07:55 on something that isn't term limited and
2:07:59 not have the funding I think that sets
2:08:01 us up for a problem in the future
2:08:07 I agree we should be spending down our
2:08:09 ending fund balance but I don't see how
2:08:13 this plan does this I think what
2:08:17 what you've shown here is 2.4 million on
2:08:20 unspecified infrastructure projects
2:08:25 is just earmarking dollars it's not
2:08:28 actually spending dollars and it's not
2:08:31 actually completing tasks and I think
2:08:34 what the
2:08:37 um Community task force
2:08:40 said was
2:08:42 you've got the money you should be
2:08:44 spending it and so toward what
2:08:46 councilmember Joe said
2:08:48 this is taxpayer dollars we have an
2:08:52 obligation to spend it out and I have a
2:08:56 really hard time looking at that
2:08:59 2.4 million dollars is actually being
2:09:02 spent
2:09:04 so I don't know how to address that
2:09:08 um but I'm open to ideas
2:09:12 I'm confused as to how if it is budgeted
2:09:15 to be spent within a fiscal year how
2:09:17 it's not being spent
2:09:21 from that perspective it seems
2:09:25 it seems like you're basically just
2:09:28 putting a budget proposal in front of us
2:09:32 which doesn't change the fact that
2:09:35 you're still coming into a budget season
2:09:39 more than 25 percent undesignated fund
2:09:42 balance
2:09:45 I guess I just don't see how this is any
2:09:48 different from coming into budget with
2:09:51 that amount unspent
2:09:53 well I think the difference is the again
2:09:56 this is for fiscal year 2023. so
2:10:01 um we would budget it in 2023 using
2:10:04 those fund balance dollars so I as of
2:10:06 December 31 2023 would be what the
2:10:09 estimated fund balance would be after
2:10:11 those expenditures and the
2:10:12 administration is looking at additional
2:10:14 expenditures above and beyond
2:10:15 infrastructure spending
2:10:18 so we would anticipate that this would
2:10:20 be an Essence an earmark for the 2023
2:10:24 budget that we would put toward Capital
2:10:25 spending there are other recommendations
2:10:27 and proposals that we'll make for other
2:10:29 portions of the fund balance I think
2:10:32 we're trying to get a sense from the
2:10:33 council
2:10:34 um it's 15 too far
2:10:38 15 is not too far
2:10:40 and I very much appreciate the focus on
2:10:44 infrastructure and you know capital
2:10:47 projects and spending
2:10:50 um so I'm generally in favor of that I
2:10:54 just I want to make sure we're actually
2:10:57 spending and not just earmarking
2:10:59 so and and just to finish the thought we
2:11:02 would propose it in the budget that it
2:11:04 would be spent
2:11:05 okay uh councilmember D Michelle follow
2:11:10 thank you
2:11:12 um I didn't comment on the additional
2:11:14 proposed positions and I really it's
2:11:16 more of a question than it is a comment
2:11:22 we there are a couple of positions that
2:11:25 I think it looks like these positions
2:11:27 that you are recommending are related
2:11:31 directly to the funds that are being
2:11:33 spent
2:11:36 um going forward there are a couple of
2:11:37 positions that I think would be really
2:11:39 important but I'm presuming that when we
2:11:41 have our Retreat we'll be able to
2:11:43 propose additional positions that could
2:11:46 be needed in other areas such as the
2:11:48 sustainability office and so so it looks
2:11:53 like these positions are you've selected
2:11:56 these positions based on their direct
2:11:58 relevance to the other expenditures is
2:12:01 that correct
2:12:03 that's correct this strategy is really
2:12:05 about infrastructure investment and how
2:12:07 the city can move the needle on
2:12:09 infrastructure investment it is not
2:12:11 meant to be an exhaustive proposal on
2:12:13 addressing all staffing needs there are
2:12:16 going to be more conversations about
2:12:17 that through the budget process and you
2:12:19 know we're we'd be eager to hear
2:12:21 council's feedback on that in terms of
2:12:23 other areas other positions Etc so that
2:12:27 would be the appropriate time would be a
2:12:28 retreat to talk about additional
2:12:30 positions that we're interested in in
2:12:33 considering
2:12:35 okay thanks
2:12:38 okay so I think we've heard everybody's
2:12:40 response on questions three and four so
2:12:43 moving on to the last question what is
2:12:45 city council feedback on the timing for
2:12:47 medium term actions including facilities
2:12:49 needs in 2023 and addressing new Revenue
2:12:52 sources for additional investments in
2:12:54 transportation and Parks infrastructure
2:12:56 council member marks
2:12:59 thank you
2:13:00 um I think that
2:13:03 um I I'm not a fan of looking at both
2:13:06 the transportation ballot measure and
2:13:09 exploring of Park District
2:13:10 simultaneously I think that the commit
2:13:13 the financial task force
2:13:16 considered the uh Transportation ballot
2:13:20 measure medium term item but it
2:13:23 considered the parks District a
2:13:24 long-term item and I think it was an
2:13:26 intentional separation of those two I
2:13:28 think talking about and considering
2:13:31 putting both of those in front of the
2:13:32 voters simultaneously
2:13:34 um would be a challenge
2:13:36 so I personally would like to see the uh
2:13:39 Parks District item moved out until
2:13:41 after resolution of a transportation
2:13:44 ballot measure
2:13:46 correct me if I'm wrong but I believe
2:13:48 the transportation was proposed for 2024
2:13:51 and the parks was proposed for 2026.
2:13:55 that's correct
2:13:59 so just
2:14:05 so um I can walk I can walk us through
2:14:07 this uh so
2:14:09 um in 2024 it anticipates the beginning
2:14:12 of the conversations regarding any
2:14:14 transportation ballot measure also in
2:14:18 um we would be completing the park
2:14:20 strategic plan and in the conversations
2:14:24 regarding the park strategic plan are
2:14:26 going to include you know how do we pay
2:14:29 for this and contemplate that Park
2:14:32 District that was recommended by the
2:14:34 task force so it's really the beginning
2:14:35 of those conversations and utilizing the
2:14:38 community engagement process for the
2:14:40 Strategic plan to begin some of those
2:14:41 conversations about a Park District but
2:14:44 but a ballot measure this is suggesting
2:14:47 would not be proposed until we've
2:14:50 figured out what we're doing for
2:14:51 transportation so we can kind of utilize
2:14:54 some of those processes that are
2:14:55 underway to start having conversations
2:14:57 about it but in terms of developing it
2:14:59 further getting it ready for a vote that
2:15:01 would occur after a transportation
2:15:02 ballot measure I think it's a huge stake
2:15:06 for us to even talk about a Parks
2:15:08 District while we're contemplating a
2:15:10 transportation ballot measure and you've
2:15:13 got complete Parks District proposal
2:15:15 ballot six years or four years from now
2:15:17 when the task force said six to nine so
2:15:19 I thank you for the explanation I feel
2:15:22 as strong I mean I feel really
2:15:24 personally very strong about this thank
2:15:29 Deputy council president Hull
2:15:31 uh thank you very much
2:15:33 um I guess respectfully I disagree I
2:15:35 think that this timeline meets the
2:15:38 Urgent needs of all three categories you
2:15:41 know we did vote as a task force to have
2:15:43 parks in the six to nine range this Park
2:15:46 District in the 69 range but there are
2:15:48 many task force members including myself
2:15:50 who advocated for you know ensuring that
2:15:53 we're doing the planning work very far
2:15:55 in advance so that way it doesn't sneak
2:15:57 up on us so I actually think that this
2:16:00 is in line with considering the urgency
2:16:03 of the needs and it makes a lot of sense
2:16:04 to me I hadn't really you know thought
2:16:06 deeply about what next steps for
2:16:08 facilities would be but
2:16:11 um you know starting next year on
2:16:12 engaging for that sounds right to me too
2:16:16 it actually seems pretty
2:16:19 what's the word I'm looking for
2:16:21 um it's a lot for next year so I wanted
2:16:23 to ask if the administration feels like
2:16:25 they can accomplish everything they need
2:16:27 to because 2023 is going to be a big
2:16:30 year with this plan so does the
2:16:32 administration have feel confident about
2:16:34 their ability to deliver you know good
2:16:37 progress next year
2:16:43 they're all big projects they're all
2:16:45 different people I mean so one of the
2:16:48 challenges as we look at next year's
2:16:49 budget is what else is there I mean this
2:16:52 this 2023 column is largely what we'll
2:16:56 be doing as a city in 2023
2:16:59 um with the possible additional
2:17:01 inclusion of next steps after Title 18
2:17:04 these are the big issues we have not
2:17:06 even talked about office facilities for
2:17:09 the city you know we're vacating a large
2:17:11 building what do we do with it
2:17:14 that's a big question and so there's a
2:17:16 lot of a lot of work to be done here I
2:17:19 think we feel there's a sense of urgency
2:17:20 to keep all of this moving we're coming
2:17:22 off of two years of not getting a lot
2:17:24 done because of the pandemic uh but
2:17:25 they're different people but this will
2:17:27 be the a real primary focus of the city
2:17:29 government
2:17:30 next year
2:17:36 well then yes supportive of the timeline
2:17:38 as presented thank you
2:17:42 anyone else
2:17:49 council member Joe
2:17:52 thank you
2:17:56 I think the the feedback that I'd be
2:17:58 giving for the medium-term action the
2:18:02 facility's needs
2:18:03 are certainly important we want to take
2:18:06 care of our people
2:18:07 we want to make sure that they have a
2:18:09 safe working environment a working
2:18:11 environment that allows them to be
2:18:13 productive and conveys to them that the
2:18:18 leaders on the city council or just
2:18:20 speaking for myself as a leader on the
2:18:22 city council appreciate the hard work
2:18:24 they do
2:18:25 the long hours that they put in and we
2:18:28 want to have a nice facility for them to
2:18:30 work and we want our firefighters to
2:18:32 also have a great facility
2:18:34 now with respect to the court I'm a
2:18:37 little bit biased because I'm sat there
2:18:40 as the municipal court judge myself and
2:18:42 the the
2:18:44 improvements that they're talking about
2:18:45 here are the the improvements that'll
2:18:47 streamline things and allow
2:18:51 a smoother operation for the court it's
2:18:54 not they're going to have plus seats for
2:18:56 all the jurors or anything like that
2:18:58 along the way so I'm anxious or excited
2:19:01 to look at what that might involve just
2:19:04 to make sure we're moderate modernizing
2:19:05 our court making sure that we're able to
2:19:07 cut down on Transportation costs because
2:19:09 we have good video facilities and allow
2:19:13 for smooth operations
2:19:16 the the last thing that I had comment on
2:19:18 just I think that uh
2:19:21 the timing of the
2:19:25 um transportation and the parks
2:19:27 infrastructure
2:19:29 um you know votes I I would like to see
2:19:32 them a little bit farther apart I think
2:19:34 the transportation one does need to go
2:19:36 first but
2:19:38 um we want to just be very clear that we
2:19:40 want to get the transportation one done
2:19:42 first before we start having a
2:19:45 conversation that's too in-depth about
2:19:47 the parks one now that doesn't mean
2:19:49 we're not doing work as a council and
2:19:51 the staff is not doing work to figure
2:19:53 out how we're going to put that together
2:19:55 but the conversation that we're having
2:19:57 externally with the community I I just
2:20:00 don't want us to confuse the community
2:20:03 and get them to think about two projects
2:20:05 at once we really need to focus on the
2:20:07 transportation project first get it done
2:20:10 we can do all our internal stuff but
2:20:12 then roll it out after the their vote is
2:20:15 taken on on the transportation one would
2:20:18 be my preference
2:20:21 councilmember hunt
2:20:26 one thing I I think this is makes sense
2:20:29 as a strategy timeline but I know that
2:20:32 in the past we've had a start and then a
2:20:35 stop of a conversation around
2:20:37 Transportation ballot measure and
2:20:40 um I those things can happen there can
2:20:43 be you know things can be overtaken by
2:20:46 events or the needs could change and it
2:20:49 might this timing might not work out and
2:20:52 um it seems to me that as a strategy it
2:20:55 makes sense just recognizing that
2:20:58 it may not be possible on this timeline
2:21:01 it seems optimistic to me there are a
2:21:04 lot of a lot of things going on and a
2:21:07 lot of things could I think
2:21:08 change
2:21:10 um one other thought I had is I think
2:21:13 the the parks issue
2:21:16 matters uh the
2:21:19 mayor Polly talked about this being a
2:21:20 puzzle I think the parks District
2:21:22 proposal ballot measure that
2:21:26 um is related to what we decide to do as
2:21:28 far as the the investment right now in
2:21:31 Parks or not
2:21:34 um because we do have a number of parks
2:21:38 that I think ultimately the vision that
2:21:41 the community has is to
2:21:44 um to make
2:21:45 transformational improvements so I think
2:21:48 if we start that now then I think that
2:21:50 sets us up for a Parks measure that
2:21:52 could be further out and could take into
2:21:54 into account those changes that were
2:21:57 made using arpa funds but I think in the
2:22:00 in the puzzle of things that's how I'm
2:22:01 thinking about it so I'm not opposed to
2:22:04 um and I think it's it's actually
2:22:05 probably likely any way that the parks
2:22:07 District ballot measure would get pushed
2:22:09 further and there would be more
2:22:11 separation from the Transportation
2:22:12 ballot measure but I I also think
2:22:15 there's a relationship here with the
2:22:17 investment we make right now with parks
2:22:19 and again if we make that investment in
2:22:21 Parks maybe that sets us up for that
2:22:23 later decision but also gives the
2:22:25 community
2:22:26 a transformational change now
2:22:32 council member D Michelle
2:22:35 I don't have much in addition to ad
2:22:39 except that perhaps it would be easier
2:22:40 to look at this by what we're doing
2:22:42 externally and what we're doing
2:22:44 internally and the external
2:22:46 Communications does need to be really
2:22:48 clear and focused
2:22:51 but at the same time we're working
2:22:54 internally to prepare for the parks
2:22:58 um yeah sure and I I think we can do do
2:23:01 both of those but I do agree that uh the
2:23:04 conversation out to the community really
2:23:07 needs to be focused and clear
2:23:09 uh and other than that I think the
2:23:11 timeline looks really good and
2:23:14 um great job on the on the materials
2:23:16 that were presented tonight thank you
2:23:20 council member Ray no uh you've already
2:23:23 have you made your comments okay and
2:23:25 step back to me
2:23:28 I am very eager to explore facilities
2:23:32 and get a sense of what our facility
2:23:34 needs are as council member Joe said you
2:23:38 know Municipal Court fire station city
2:23:42 hall or workspace facilities those are
2:23:45 all very important I appreciate
2:23:49 exploring a funding plan
2:23:51 because those are big big dollars and I
2:23:55 think that's definitely an area where we
2:23:57 could look at some debt as an option
2:24:02 I still remain unsold that any of the
2:24:06 transportation needs that we have right
2:24:08 now would make a successful ballot
2:24:10 measure
2:24:12 um but I'm happy to explore it and I
2:24:17 think if we can come up with a good set
2:24:19 of items then I would put it ahead of a
2:24:24 Park District
2:24:26 but again I just I remain unsold that we
2:24:31 moved in a New Direction significantly
2:24:34 from the last time we did a
2:24:36 transportation ballot measure um that I
2:24:41 yeah I don't want to go down that road
2:24:42 again
2:24:45 and I do think that exploring whatever
2:24:48 we would for a Park District
2:24:51 requires internal and external
2:24:55 conversations and so we just need to be
2:24:58 aware of how that falls in between
2:25:01 things but generally and I guess the
2:25:03 other comment I have is all of this
2:25:06 seems fairly ambitious considering we're
2:25:10 we have the title 18 whiteboard list
2:25:13 considering we have our comprehensive
2:25:17 Plan update that has to come through
2:25:22 I mean more power to us if we can
2:25:24 accomplish it but I'll be looking for
2:25:26 what we're addressing in the budget as
2:25:29 ways to handle those things uh council
2:25:33 member marks
2:25:34 thank you
2:25:36 um so I have run successful Bond and
2:25:41 Levy campaigns as part of the volunteers
2:25:42 for Sequoia schools and I think we would
2:25:47 be in a very different position in a
2:25:50 couple of years to run a transportation
2:25:52 potential Transportation ballot than we
2:25:55 were last time I think we learned a lot
2:25:57 from the last time we tried to run a
2:26:00 bond and uh which again would have
2:26:04 passed had it been a levy
2:26:06 uh I think that we have a strategic plan
2:26:10 in place and we have now years of
2:26:13 community engagement on what our
2:26:15 priorities are that we didn't have the
2:26:17 last time we tried to run one so I think
2:26:20 it would be a very very different and
2:26:22 much more educated conversation with our
2:26:25 community than it was the last time and
2:26:28 so I'm eager to see where that
2:26:31 conversation goes as a as a city thank
2:26:37 okay as we near 9 30 I guess I would say
2:26:41 we have gone through all of the five
2:26:44 questions
2:26:46 can you talk through what the next steps
2:26:50 are what you've heard what do you plan
2:26:53 to bring back to us for the July 5th
2:26:56 meeting
2:26:58 sure thank you very much I am very
2:27:01 impressed because that was a lot to get
2:27:02 through so I really appreciate all of
2:27:04 that feedback so we are going to follow
2:27:08 up on July 5th at that meeting I think
2:27:11 that there's additional conversations
2:27:14 that we need to have regarding the parks
2:27:16 proposal for the anchor Park so we'll
2:27:19 put together some materials based off of
2:27:21 the questions we heard tonight
2:27:23 and also I think we'll be hearing a
2:27:26 little bit more from our Chief Financial
2:27:29 Officer Robert hamoud on debt and arpa
2:27:33 funds as well and so we'll prepare some
2:27:35 of that information take the feedback
2:27:37 that we heard from you this evening
2:27:38 regarding some of your concerns and
2:27:41 return for more discussion on July 5th
2:27:47 okay Deputy council president Hull uh
2:27:50 just really quick and generally
2:27:52 um but I just wanted to make sure
2:27:54 um Deputy City administrator Snyder
2:27:56 Andrea knows how much this Council
2:27:58 appreciates all the work that you've put
2:28:00 into this effort it's been a long time
2:28:03 now shepherding it from the beginning of
2:28:05 the task force all the way to coming up
2:28:08 with a proposal and now dealing with all
2:28:10 of our questions and comments up here so
2:28:12 really greatly appreciate all the work
2:28:14 that you've done to to bring this
2:28:17 Mammoth of infrastructure investment
2:28:21 strategy and vision from birth to here
2:28:25 and just thank you
2:28:31 councilmember hunt
2:28:32 thank you one suggestion for some other
2:28:35 information that I think would be
2:28:36 helpful so I I did have a conversation
2:28:38 with City administrator Bob quits before
2:28:40 the meeting about some of the
2:28:41 long-standing
2:28:44 infrastructure Transportation
2:28:46 infrastructure like sidewalks on squawk
2:28:48 and the
2:28:50 multimodal South Cove project and and
2:28:54 those and where they were and you know I
2:28:58 think that that information would also
2:28:59 be helpful because in reviewing this I
2:29:01 was looking at the CIP and the master
2:29:04 Mobility plan and then the community
2:29:07 survey and there's just a lot of
2:29:09 information that's in a lot of places
2:29:10 and so I think I think explaining the
2:29:12 timeline for those explaining the
2:29:14 funding strategy that is in place would
2:29:16 would be helpful and would also give us
2:29:18 a sense of the more holistic look at
2:29:21 what the administration is planning for
2:29:23 those long-standing projects so that
2:29:25 would be my information ask for you
2:29:28 thank you much appreciated summary
2:29:33 um I think at this point we can say we
2:29:36 are done and that is the only other item
2:29:40 on our agenda so at this point at 9 30
2:29:45 p.m we're adjourned thank you
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