Arseny, we're ready to go. Good evening, Planning Policy. It's good to see everybody. Feels a little bit more intimate this evening, but that just could be because last meeting we had so many people, which is a little irregular for us. Uh we're going to get started and it currently is 6:31 p.m. Today's meeting is a hybrid meeting. The Planning Policy Commission is in person, but staff or members of the public may be joining us virtually or in person. Kristen, do we have a quorum this evening? We do have a quorum. We have um one unexcused absence, uh Commissioner Melinda Irwin, and an excused absence with Commissioner Allender. Okay. So, what that means for our commission this evening is both our alternates will be voting. Uh so, Commissioner Holstrom as well as Commissioner Adair will be voting members this evening. We're going to begin with the approval of minutes and we have two sets of minutes for last uh meeting, which was the 23rd, and we obviously had our special meeting with the EVC, and we'll start with those. Were there any concerns or anything that anyone like to bring up regarding those minutes? As far as the PPC's meeting that evening any Anything anyone like to bring up? All right, hearing none, both sets of meeting minutes are approved. The next item of business is going to be uh public comment. So, for this meeting we're holding the general public comment right now. This is for the good of the PPC. Um anything in general that you'd like to bring up. We will have a moment a little bit later when the public hearing is open for anyone that would like to speak on tonight's main topic, which is going to be the Title 18 proposed amendments. Um again, so right now it's really just more general. If you want to keep your comments on the record I I would uh encourage you to wait. Um staff, do we have anyone that uh would like to speak this evening as far as general public comment? No, chair. Not for general comments. Okay. Thank you, Amanda. Okay. We're going to move on to our first item of business this evening, and this is uh our public hearing regarding the proposed Title 18 land code land use code amendments. The purpose of this public hearing is to provide a formal opportunity for public comment on these amendments. We'll open the public hearing, which will be followed by a staff presentation, and then we'll open it up for the PPC to ask any questions that they have. Um after the questions, we'll take public testimony, and then we'll close the public hearing, and then the Planning Policy Commission will have an opportunity to debate. Uh it's hoped that at the end of that debate, we'll make a recommendation, and we'll see this thing go upstream. And this evening, Kate Cainey, our principal planner, will be starting us off. So, Kate, when you are ready with your presentation, please go ahead. >> Thank you, Chair. I'm just getting set here. Can everybody see the presentation all right? Okay. Well, thank you very much. Um I am here tonight to Oh, this is the wrong presentation, isn't it? Pardon me. Bring up the other one. Sorry. Page one. My apologies. Okay. And hit the right button again. Okay. There we go. I think I have the right presentation. My apologies for that. So, uh tonight we are here for the public hearing on the Title 18 Land Use Code Amendments. Um three staff are here to participate in the presentation. I will go ahead and start it off. Um as the Chair mentioned, our purpose here is not only to hold the public hearing, but also to take public comment, um allow the Commission to deliberate, and take action if appropriate. So, the Title 18 Amendments that are um the basis of the hearing tonight are split into two general categories. The first are the 2026 clarifying or housekeeping amendments the Commission has been reviewing since the beginning of the year. And then there are two sets of amendments that are part of the Promoting Building Investment in Issaquah Initiative. So, I will go ahead and kick off the presentation on the clarifying amendments and share with you that uh the Commission did review these seven uh sets of amendments earlier this year. I'm going to go ahead and roll right into the first amendment and then uh each of us will come up and do uh uh provide information as appropriate. So, the first amendment has to do with the multi-family definitions and is is literally some cleanup. Um the proposal repeals the definition called multi-family residential. And the reason is that last year when the city adopted the middle housing amendments, a new definition dwelling multi-family was adopted and that um really supersedes uh this older definition multi-family residential. So, um that needs to be removed from the code for consistency. So, the next set of amendments I am going to hand over to senior planner Emily Medina. Good evening, commissioners. So, the site development permit um code amendments clarify when site development permits are necessary and at what level. Um again, the reason for this change is to just make sure that we're not having these super small-scale projects have to go through unnecessary permitting and get a land use permit when it's not necessary um as well as making sure that the thresholds are simplistic, so not having multiple thresholds for each level, but just one to keep it clear, so um developers know what to expect and it's easy for staff to process um as well as using um as well as >> [laughter] >> as well as making sure that the uh projects that don't involve structures um and are just site work permits don't have to go through the development commission when there is no design review associated with that. Um so, just to kind of recall back, one of the big changes is changing the word um in our thresholds right now talks about development and we are to proposing to change that to structure. Um development in our code is a very, very broad definition, and it means literally anytime you touch the land versus structure is vertical construction, um and that is the original intent of site development permits is to really focus on those large structures on site. Uh following public comments that we received after our first presentation on the site development permit amendments, we added one additional threshold, which is to the level two. Um level two, if you recall, is administrative approval or administrative decision, but with public notice versus level four permits um are development commission hearing and decision with public notice as well. Um so, currently level four, if there is a 1-acre site being touched, um even if there's no structure on it, it has to go through a level four, but there was no smaller threshold for that. So, there was concern that these larger potentially these large projects that just involve site work. So, an example that I've given previously is the um changing an asphalt parking lot into a large park or community many space. Um there was concerns that that's still is substantial impact to if you live next door, what's happening to next door to you. If it's 10,000 square feet to an acre, you know, that that can be a large change of land use, and the public perhaps wants to know about that. Um and we agree, public notice is always a good thing, so we added another threshold to level two that if it is a site work um project between 10,000 square feet and 1 acre, it has to go through a level two process, so that the public will be notified, and then it is administrative decision. So, just some examples about that. Um this is one of the ones that triggered having that um base threshold for small projects. Um currently, if you're adding 200 square feet to the front of your commercial building or less, um you have to get a level one SDP. Under the proposed amendments, SDP review would not be required. So, they would just get be required to get a building permit and all those things that we would look for with the site development permit, we would just look for with the building permit. Um so just eliminating that one extra um hurdle to jump over. And then I wanted to bring back this example because I presented this when these amendments first came before the commission. Um and this was the trigger about the site work permit. So this is the one that is converting that asphalt parking lot into a community amenity space. Um currently it would have to go through a level four even though they're not doing any structural changes to the building on site um because of the amount of land they are touching. Under these new proposed revised amendments, it would be a level two because it is greater than 10,000 square feet but less than an acre. Um it would have the public notice associated with it before the uh staff made a decision. And then the other process amendment that is associated is the plat and construction permit requirements. So currently our code just lacks clarity um regarding requirements for construction of infrastructure um which is utilities, sidewalks, that kind of thing before final approval of the subdivisions and binding site plans, so plats, that kind of thing. So this is essentially just to clarify code and strengthen it to make sure that we have um the right permit process in place. Great. Thank you, Emily. Um so I will uh go ahead and finish up the uh review of the proposals for the clarifying code. And this one you may recall is part of the temporary use uh code that we have. And a change that would clarify where and how to allow donation bins on private properties. You can see some photos here of what that might look like, the good and the bad uh that we would address. Um and uh the changes that um are added are really standards for uh where donation bins can go. A duration of 365 days is proposed and also a prohibition in the standards on accumulating trash or having it be ill-kept. So, we worked with our code enforcement officer to make sure we had the right standards. These bins are already allowed through the temporary use code, but what this these code changes do is add those standards that were reviewed previously by the commission. So, the next proposal has to do with daycare and adult family homes and some clarifications. This is really just adding some language when you are reading through the daycare and adult family home standards and directions to go see the definitions for daycare center, daycare center family, and adult family home. And it's like wayfinding, so you can go to the definition section. It's important because in the definitions, there are there is information about the number of kids, the number of adults that are allowed in these different facilities and also applicable state regulations. So, that's what's proposed in that first upper part of the proposals. And in the lower half, the update to the family daycare center criteria is also pretty simple. It is just updating the term family child care center and replacing it with family daycare center just to be consistent throughout the code. There are a couple of others related to daycare and this standard has to do with adding a new provision pertaining to traffic impact fee waivers. These waivers were adopted by city council this March. So, as part of the codification process in this section of the daycare code, we added a provision that describes the need for getting a covenant recorded as part of any property that decides to opt in to this waiver program, um, so it can be tracked by the city. And this next amendment also kind of has to do with daycare, but it's, uh, in the home business code. Daycare operations used to be in our home business section of the code. Um, it has this, uh, italicized, uh, information about play equipment for daycare operations. Since daycare is no longer, uh, regulated in that section of the code, it is no longer applicable and the proposal is to remove it. So now we have, um, three more slides all on, uh, different sign code provisions that, um, you have reviewed. The first, um, balloon sign provisions and this is a clarification that all balloons and balloon-like objects, um, regardless of material, would be prohibited, uh, for use as signs. Um, the main reason is that, uh, these balloons can obscure the vision of people driving by. Um, it's a safety issue. We worked on this language with the code enforcement officer and I believe one of the commissioners, uh, in the initial, uh, set of code that we, uh, uh, had you review, noticed, um, that we hadn't, uh, been completely holistic in our changes. So, uh, we swept through the code so that the prohibition is, um, consistent throughout the code. So that was added. The next amendment has to do with the interior illumination of monument signs. What we were finding is that a lot of the monument signs, which you see examples of on screen here, um, are grandfathered or legally non-conforming with the existing code. However, they come in and they need their illumination adjusted on their sign faces. So, um, this is, uh, this change would be specific to Central Issaquah, Issaquah Highlands, Talus, and the, uh, CBD zone. And the idea would be to maintain the signs uh, the sign face illumination would be allowed to change as long as the other standards were met and this clarification would release streamline the process because these signs apparently do come through regularly to the counter. The next and final sign code proposal has to do with temporary window construction signs and the idea would be to allow these signs that are temporary during the construction process for all development before the um uh before people have to get the full permanent signs required by the code. Um this would just make it easier um for the new development to install the signs so we thought it would be a good streamlining process. Okay, so with that I am going to go ahead and hand it over to planning manager Kristen Lee sent to go over the next set of proposals. Good evening. Kristen Lee sent planning manager. All right, so we're going to talk about this time um proposed amendments for the promoting building investments in Issaquah. Um first we are talking about step backs and step backs the goal here was to allow for more flexibility in step backs and where they should occur. [clears throat] And the reason for doing that is because we have been told that they are a little bit excessive and it could potentially make a project infeasible. So first of all before we talk about it, I wanted to talk about the other regulations that are in place as well. So we talk about building modulation and articulation in this section of the code and other things that are required we required a definite a um differentiating or um differentiation there you go between all the different floors especially once they hit once they go over three floors. Um we require divided light windows that are operable, that are recessed or projecting or have a that are framed. They have to provide some kind of surface depth, some kind of modulation back and forth, so it's really a vertical modulation. Where the building is stepped back, the views must be preserved, and then building corners have to be accentuated either through architectural details or they could be recessed to allow for say a plaza to go on that corner. So, those are other things that are in place besides the step backs that fall under this section. We also talk about step backs that are adjacent to natural context areas, natural areas and natural context areas. So, here's the map, everything in green is a natural area. The purple are the natural context areas, and other requirements that go there are that the building has to face the natural area. It has to have some balconies or open spaces, windows, things that face the natural area. It has, if it's next to a waterway, it has to have a path that goes between the building and the waterway. Um, if you have activities or uses that are adjacent to it, they can't be closed off from the natural area. They have to be open to the natural area. So, and they have to have all native plants and that sort of thing. So, there are other things in place, and we already talked about as well if it's adjacent to if it's within one of the state shoreline jurisdictions, it can't go higher than 35 ft. It has to be set back a certain amount of space. So, there are other things in place beside the step backs that are in play here. Here we go. So, moving on to the code, when you get to the building orientation to natural areas in Central Issaquah, that's where those are used, we are proposing to just eliminate required step backs on those areas. When you move outside of those natural areas and actually just in the rest of the city, proposing that all that setbacks must occur by the base of the sixth floor that can occur as low as the base of the second floor. And then they should be a minimum of 5 ft deep. And we took out the piece about they must be there must be usable space in there. This is a based on our conversations from last week or 2 weeks ago. And then the same requirements would apply with the Northwest contemporary style that they have to begin by the base of the sixth can begin by the base by the base of the second and then have to be a minimum of 5 ft deep. Okay? Moving on to amenity space our goal here was to decrease the amount of required private open amenity space and also to add deviations for conversions of commercial uses to multi-family uses. So, the reason for the first one is because again our requirements have been deemed excessive and potentially can make a project difficult and infeasible. For the second, we don't want to make it more difficult for a project to come through. So, we do have one that's trying to convert right now that's having to go through deviation process or a variance process um that's going to be converted to affordable housing and we'd like to make it easier to get affordable housing here. So again, these are based on our last conversation. We increased in the upper left-hand corner increased the number of units. It used to be five that had to comply with these regulations and now it's been up to We're proposing to increase that to nine units plus it's 100 sq ft per unit. We eliminated deleted the piece that said plus an additional 48 sq ft for any units without the private open space and it's just strictly a minimum 30 units must provide 48 sq ft. Plus every unit has to have 100 sq ft. And then the same thing would apply for residential 22 plus, but then you have the additional 40 400 square feet total that you have to add for those. Okay. We And this is the piece about the deviations. We deleted the piece about because we made it code or a requirement now, we eliminated the deviation for amenity spaces where you can reduce it down to 30 feet, but then you have to, you know, make all 148. We just got rid of that. Because now it's a regulation. And then we added one about the common private outdoor amenity space that if they comply with all the requirements under 18-500-524, which is the conversion to from commercial and multi-family, if they comply with all of that, then they can get a deviation from the amenity space required in this section. So, for our next steps, this will is proposed to go to the Planning and Development and Environment Committee on June 2nd, to Council on June 29th. And that is all I have. We are open to questions. Excellent. Well, thank you, Emily, Kate, and Kristen. You guys summed it up so well. Thank you. Those were hours of conversations all consolidated into a nice 20-minute presentation. >> [snorts] >> Um we want to open it up right now just for questions. Again, we want to make this open for the commissioners. The questions are part that's going to help inform public comment if we have any. So, again, right now just questions, clarifying questions, and debate a little bit later. But questions? Oh, do you mind going back two slides before the date slide? It looks like the code still says 148 square feet of amenity space. Is that for Or should that be one of the things that we're tweaking? >> That Yeah, I think I got that wrong here, but it's right in the um in the amendments. It is. It's That's the wrong number. It shouldn't be 148 square feet. It should >> it's just in the presentation. >> It should be 100. It's not in the Okay, just just checking. >> It should be 100. Thank you. Uh nice catch. Any other questions? Uh Commissioner Zacharof. Um have we heard anything from uh the developers on this new proposal so not yet? We received a letter just prior to this meeting that I printed out and it is in front of you. Otherwise, we have not heard anything since the last meeting. >> I think someone made the comment that Kristen was giving us homework. Any other questions? It's all relatively pretty straightforward, I think, at this point with how many conversations we've had. So, um yeah, I think everybody just wants to get down to debating it. Um okay. Well, one more time, no more questions? Okay. Um we're going to move on and we are going to open the public hearing at 6:54 p.m. And Amanda, I'm looking at you again. Has anyone signed up to speak this evening? Yes, Chair, they have. His first name is Carl, and please forgive me for Short. Thank you. Carl Short. All right. Well, thank you, Carl. Yes, you look familiar. Um very quickly, in case we do have more public speakers, just uh a few housekeeping rules. Please speak clearly and pause frequently. Um please state your name so we make sure not to butcher your last name. And then, once you're done, go ahead and mute your microphone. You'll want to make sure it's on while you speak. Um and then again, if we have anyone that's online that would like to speak, we ask that if you are having technical issues to please try joining us again with a smartphone or tablet. Um we do ask that everyone try and keep their comments down to 5 minutes or less. So, Carl, when you are ready, please go ahead. Terrific. Um good evening, commissioners. My name is Carl Schrett, and I'm with Avalon Bay Communities. We are the developer of the market-rate component of the Trailhead TOD project here in Issaquah. I was here a few weeks ago for your discussion about how to help make housing projects more feasible in the city, and I appreciate the continued focus on that effort. First, I want to thank you for your collaboration with the development community to reduce some of the barriers to building housing in Issaquah. That partnership is important, and it's making a difference. I also want to thank city staff for their continued work and for maintaining a productive, constructive dialogue with the development community throughout this process. As outlined in the comment letter submitted by Avalon Bay and other housing stakeholders, we are supportive of the draft code amendments that are before you tonight. In particular, the proposed changes to step-back and amenity space requirements create a more workable framework, one that continues to respect Issaquah's unique character, while also introducing needed flexibility for projects to move forward. While these amendments may seem incremental, they are meaningful. Changes like these can have a real impact on whether projects pencil, and ultimately whether new housing actually gets built. For those reasons, I respectfully ask that you advance the code amendments as drafted. Thank you again for your leadership and your continued work on this effort. I appreciate your time this evening. Thank you. Thank you, Carl. Um Amanda, has anyone signed up online? Okay. >> No, Chair, they have not. We did get a a great letter that again, we got right before the meeting, so hopefully everybody had a time to look at that. Um I believe Avalon Bay was represented in that letter as well as other stakeholders so Um great. We will close at the public hearing at 6:56 p.m. Um Okay, but there is formal action requested from us, commissioners, so somebody has to make a motion this evening. Vice Chair Patterson. Did the gentleman's pause. Uh thank you, Chair. I'd like to make a motion to recommend approval of the Title 18 amendments as presented. Is there a second? Uh Commissioner Krass. I second. Okay, excellent. Thank you both. Um I'd like to open it up for and begin with Vice Chair Patterson since he did make the motion and we can begin to debate the merits of what you just saw in the presentation. Uh yeah, obviously we have um discussed and debated these topics uh pretty well over the last several meetings. Um I feel like we've gotten to a pretty good point with them. Um appreciate the partnership with city staff. I know we asked for a lot of examples, a lot of uh clarifications and intent and I think that was all provided in our packet. Uh very helpful to have uh those visuals and diagrams. So, thank you for your work on that. Um but yeah, at this time no no other comments. Great. Thank you, Vice Chair Patterson. Um Commissioners, anyone like to speak? I see Commissioner Adair reaching for the mic. Yeah, I mean obviously we've talked this through a lot and I agree with 99% of everything. I did want to revisit the six-story setback versus possibly moving it to a five-story setback. And that's because I have spent some time this week going and visiting a lot of five- and six-story buildings and they were throwing considerable amount of shadow on the sidewalk. So, I think part of the issue for me is there's such a diversity in height between, you know, you can have a six-story building that's like 60 ft or you can have a six-story building that's, you know, 75 ft and those obviously have a big disparity in the kind of shadow they're going to kind of cast on the sidewalk and community spaces. So, I just thought we could revisit that. Okay, we can. But, and this is where my knowledge of Robert's Rules is a little wanting, but I believe you've got to make an amendment, right? Before we Not yet? Okay. All right. So, would anyone like to discuss Commissioner Adair's thought? Anyone have any thoughts about sixth to fifth floor? Yeah, Vice Chair Patterson. Oh, since we're discussing, that is something that's definitely weighed on me a little bit. I think >> [snorts] >> in terms of representing all the stakeholders in this is a little bit of you know, what's the right number? I do think that, you know, looking at the intense, we talked there it specifically states things like, you know, solar access or increased passive solar and things like that for reasons why you'd want to be careful of step backs or why they exist, I should say, as well as some of the other aspects of the code. It's hard, I think, to gauge for Issaquah right now because we don't have a ton of those types of buildings. It would be challenging to to kind of determine what the right number is. Um So, I guess what I'm saying is I understand your concern. I personally don't know the right number. So, I'm I'm hesitant to like state one way or the other. And that's why I think I'm kind of supportive of what we have in front of us given the analysis that's gone into it. But, I do understand, you know, I guess some feelings of concern, if you will, about stating the right number. Yeah, no, thank you, Vice Chair Patterson. Vice uh uh Commissioner Zakrzewski. Thank you. Well, [clears throat] my biggest concern is that we are right now as a city, we are requesting developers to develop. We want development to happen in Issaquah. And at the very same time with uh when we kind of when we're limiting what we can as a city provide and I mean, what we have too many requests from developers in this case. Uh we end up with the same situation as Trailhead TOD when everything just goes just the way they can do that. So, no setbacks, okay, no setbacks. No, like, I don't know, something else, no, okay, fine, just build the building. So, I don't want to I don't want us to get to the very same situation with every building. So, just like Vice Chair Patterson, I don't know the right number, uh fifth floor, sixth floor, or any uh certain height in feet. I just want to make sure that the policy we create is both uh work- is workable for both the developers and the city. And I think to kind of to get that balance, to reach that balance is the most important thing for us right now. So. Thank you. Yeah, great. Thank you, Commissioner Zakrzewski. Would anyone else like to comment on Commissioner Adair's proposal? Commissioner Halverson. I certainly understand where you're coming from with the shadowing. Um I guess I look I kind of like where it's at just from I feel like more cons- constraints are going to mean less units built, which means less feasible. It's going to make it more challenging to get these buildings built. So, I'm kind of hesitant to constrict things any more than they already are. Great. Um I'll get back to Commissioner Adair, but I want to make sure everyone gets an opportunity to speak. Um Commissioner Matthews, Commissioner Krass. Commissioner Matthews. Yeah, I also had been thinking a lot about this and I'm just repeating what everyone else says basically is I don't know what the magic number is either, but I was thinking about, you know, we have all these different requirements and it's what it are we trying what is the goal that we're trying to achieve and it's like I really don't want to open this can of worms, but you know like when you have setbacks, that is to create a human scale and of course, you know, like get rid of shadows, but articulation is more of a visual like it's visually interesting as you're walking down the street. So, are we looking at creating more visual interest or maybe we want to create a more cozy environment. So, I didn't know if there was a trade-off if you if we lower the setbacks, less articulation, but then that would open a can of worms, right? So, I which I didn't want to do, but it just occurred to me as I was thinking this earlier this weekend about this whole process. We're here we're here to open can of worms. So, you're okay. You're fine. Um, It was just a thought that I was, you know, wanted to talk about as well. >> Yeah, I know that that's part of the process. That's great. Um, Commissioner Krass. Uh, thanks. I I like the way it is now. I think there's flexibility, you know, you have you know, second six and they could be somewhere in between if it makes sense from a design standpoint. I also just came back from Charlotte, North Carolina where there's a huge amount of building and even though we're walking around town, I had a of course look at all of the setbacks on these it's because there's a ton of five, six, seven-story buildings being built. And um, they were different and it was nice. So, I could see how a lot of the different buildings um, took a slightly different approach, um, but it felt like it all worked. And some of them were much higher up and I didn't feel like that was uh, too cavernous by any means. So, I think um, where we are now or where it lands and all the work that's been done I think is is a good spot. Great. And then I'll just add real quickly and then everyone can have an another opportunity at this. Um I'm real happy with the work that we did not only as a commission but also with staff and also our development community. Um it is an iterative process. There is going to be other opportunities um within the next year or two if there's situations that arise and maybe they say, "Hey, this is still unfeasible and we'd like you guys to look at this again." So, it's not that it's over but it's pretty rare when you have not only the commission but also I mean you can see the stakeholders with the letter they sent. I mean it's not just one stakeholder. It's multiple. And I feel like, you know, to what Commissioner Matthews said, you know, I don't want to open a can of worms to, you know, I don't think that's the hill I want to die on today myself. I'd like to I'd like to see this roll out. Um it's got great support from the developers who were here and present. And again, it's something that can always be brought back up. I mean we get an opportunity I believe what once a year to to put these things on the docket and have them looked at and Kristen's kind of giving me a no. I got side eye. No, code amendments aren't just I'm just they're not once a year. You can do those. Okay. But it's not something you want to just No. >> any year or say No, no. >> I didn't work. But but I think >> [laughter] >> No, but I think to to Vice Chair Patterson's point, I don't think anybody truly knows what that number is and as much as I'd like to say it might be different at 6:05, I don't know what the cost is. And I don't want to go off a feeling when we put together a pretty strong packet myself. But I do want to make sure that Commissioner Adair gets the opportunity to rebut all of this here. No. Um So please. >> Um no. Okay, so I'm just one thing I'd like to bring up that is of the many wonderful points that the developers have made including the costs and the structural issues, I don't know if somebody addressed why six floors specifically was the ideal. And if there would have been, for example, oh, you know, this this project is going to get axed if they don't have the sixth floor. You know, if somebody was coming in and they said we have this amazing project and it's great. Oh, but this sixth floor step back is the make or break. But I think if we're going forward with new projects that are still pending, it is okay for us to say, you know, maybe let's err on the side of caution. And to that point, I think when you're going somewhere that's like a sunny state where they have a lot of sun all the time, you're going to have a different kind of feeling than in a place where we've got rain, you know, 60, 70, 80% of the year. >> [laughter] >> So, I I guess I would just say, Kim, Kristen, this might be a rules of order question, but like would it be a substantial delay if we were to say, let's propose to make it a proposed amendment to make it five stories instead of six? And I will Would that add another week? Would that No. Actually, I was writing Chair voice a note to say, now at this time, would Commissioner Adair like to make an amendment? And then you just vote on it now. Okay. Yeah. And can I explain again why I mean, a little more just I feel like having visited some of these buildings, there is if you were to get two of them across the street, luckily right now we're not at the point where we do have two of them across the street from each other. I do think if we're going if we get two of them across the street, it's going to be a very different vibe and feel than traditional Issaquah, which is a more open, welcoming town-like feel. And I think we're going to have a lot more hopefully when the transit if the transit goes through developers will understand if it's the fifth story and the sixth not the you know because we're still making a lot of concessions in terms of the step backs with reducing the number of sides that need stepping back and reducing how many step backs they need and the size of it. I think those are all considerable concessions. So I think what we want to do now Commissioner Dare is let you make the amendment and let's see if we it works further debate. >> if not yeah we want to do it. Okay so I'd like to propose that we amend the step back from starting at the base of the sixth floor which is what I believe it is to start at the base of the fifth floor. fifth story Okay and I think this is just an informal vote. It does require a second. I need to study up on my Robert's Rules. >> [laughter] >> Is there a second for the amendment on the floor? Okay that amendment fails. >> [snorts] >> That was right man. >> [laughter] >> Okay we'll have Feister Patterson. I will say I struggled with this still but when looking at our kind of neighboring cities it seems like no one knows the magic number because if you're looking at the Bothells and Bellinghams and Redmonds there's second floor third floor fourth floor like no one really knows the number but I think what the sixth floor does is it honestly kind of puts us right in the middle because it's not too low it's not no requirement like I won't say their name but another city so it kind of gets us in that happy medium which I think we're trying to find because we're trying to encourage development without you know sacrificing anything that we've developed or you know built in our code as a city so the more I was thinking about it and looking at it like I think that's where my mind goes is like six is a a good number for trying to I think the goal is to try and increase development. Um but we're find we're putting a limit on it that's not, you know, kind of in the middle of where everyone else is. So. you, Vice Chair Patterson. Um, continuing debate just as on the whole packet as a whole. Now, this is where I shine. Okay, so >> [laughter] >> So, there is a motion on the floor. Um We want to go ahead and repeat it. And the motion is to recommend approval of the proposed Title 18 amendment as presented. Um, all in favor please say I. I. And for the recorder, that was unanimous. 1 2 3 5 6. That was all seven of us. I'm getting a thumbs-up Kristen's. I did something right. Okay. Well, thank you everybody. Again, we want to thank the developers. We want to thank the staff. Uh, and again, all thanks to our commission that worked hard on this Oh, I don't know. Been a few months. So, again, thank you. We are going to move into our next item of regular business. And Let's see. And that is an introduction to the first two comprehensive plan amendments. So Kate Welcome back. Uh, please go ahead when you're ready. Pardon me, let me just adjust my screen. Okay. And is everyone able to see the presentation? Great. Um, I think I forgot to introduce myself, Kate Canny, principal planner. Uh back here with uh senior planner Emily Medina and we are going to present on the 2026 comprehensive plan amendment proposals starting with the first two amendments. So this is an informational briefing um and really we just want to uh give you a status update on and let you review what our findings are so far as we've been doing some analysis and initial drafting on amendment proposals one and two. Um we'd like your questions and your input and guidance as we move forward. So just to do a little background, um you may recall that um every year the city opens up the comprehensive plan to minor amendments. Um every 10 years is that big resetting of the growth strategies and and policies. Um in 2026 the commission reviewed the initial docket or list of proposals um then provided your recommendation to council as to whether you wanted these proposals on the final docket for um this additional um assessment and drafting process. So um we are uh sorry sorry council approved that final docket um identical to the recommendations you made um in early March and since that time we've been working on the amendments. So the five amendments uh proposals that you see here um are the entirety of the list and the first two amendments are actually uh overlapping in so far as they both address land use designations. In terms of the first uh proposal it's to add descriptions of the existing land use designations into the uh the comprehensive plan um and also kind of clarify which zones um implement those land use designations by formally and officially establishing that there's a connection between the two. The second amendment talks about clarifying the names of low density and multi-family designation land use designations and zones, and specifically deals with uh changing the names of the single family zones because of the middle housing amendments um that were adopted by the city last year, which opened up single family zones to not just single family houses, but also to the middle housing, to the town houses, to the duplexes, triplexes etc. So, um Emily Medina and I have been working together on these proposals, and we just want to share that information with you tonight. So, I'm going to go ahead and start with the first proposal. We'll focus on that, um and specifically again, that's to add the descriptions of land use designations to the comprehensive plan, and um to uh establish uh which implementing zones implement those designations. So, why? Why are we doing this? Um so, it's important to clarify the roles and the purposes of the land use designations and which zones they implement for several reasons. Um Emily even mentioned that, you know, she's had conversations with developers about "Well, your land use designations, the names are a little unclear. I'm not sure, you know, what's the intent of this area." Um so, by having really clear designations, really clear descriptions in the policies, uh it makes it easier to understand what the vision for growth is here in Issaquah. Also, consistency, as we've discussed before, between the comprehensive plan and the um development regulations is required by the Growth Management Act, um by local city code. So, there's a little diagram there that kind of lists how, you know, we have a comprehensive plan that's influenced and guided by Growth Management Act, other stuff, and that the zoning has to implement and follow um all of the above. So, um that is why we are here today uh talking about this. So, what land use designations does the city have? Um there are nine, and this uh these colors uh with the designations are directly from our land use map. Um currently, these designations are established on that map. There aren't other descriptions in the code. They are referenced, and we'll kind of go through where those references are. And as I mentioned, you know, some of the names of the designations do not, you know, immediately and clearly communicate what their purpose and intent are. So, you know, the first three, conservancy, community facilities, community facilities privately owned, um you kind of get a sense of that's, you know, green space or parks or parks facilities. Um whether uh in the community facilities, is that public or privately owned? Um we have also um low-density residential, multi-family residential, then retail, commercial, mixed-use, and urban village. In terms of the names, and I did a little uh animation here, um that I that we were really scrutinizing um when we were looking at both of the proposed amendments, you know, low-density residential is part of amendment proposal number two. Um that is a designation where we have single-family zones um that are located within those areas geographically that are also designated low-density residential. And it doesn't immediately speak to the the fact that middle housing is available there. So, we were looking at, you know, should we do a renaming of this designation? That was one of our questions. We also looked at retail. Retail is a designation that you would find uh in Old Town around Front Street, for example. So, not only retail uses are allowed there, but also residential uses. So, we're thinking, gosh, maybe we should re- rename that just to be clear about what we're trying to do there. Another of the designations that uh wasn't completely clear, uh commercial. Uh commercial might imply, you know, what is that? Like just big box commercial or when it's really closer to light industrial uses, warehouses uh that are allowed in terms of the zones. So, our task was to holistically take a look at these land use designations, look at the zoning, and see um how we could make things clearer in terms of the names of things. So, um the An- another thing we did was look at the land use map, right? The The map is on screen there, and the job of the map is to illustrate the comprehensive plan's 20-year vision for where and how the city should grow. So, those land use designations, those colors are on the map, and within those designations, certain zones make things happen, right? So, they should align. Um the Just to give you an idea of um how the legends work, you know, often the designations are kind of low- lowest intensities to highest. That's sort of the way our our legend works. Um other wayfinding I wanted to share with you just so you'd be like, "What are we talking about?" Um the land use designation map is now next to the neighborhoods map. So, it might be a little easier to see, you know, the red mixed use just really pops, right? That designation is for our highest intensity commercial retail uses, uh residential uses, and you can see how it aligns with Central Issaquah, right? That is in our comprehensive plan, in our Central Issaquah plan, where we want to focus most growth for housing, jobs, etc. So, that kind of um consistency um between, you know, the name of a of a designation and the zones that are within it are important uh when we are trying to convey to the community, to developers, where we want growth to happen, what kind of growth we want to happen. I also wanted to show you the land use map with the zoning map because uh the relationship is very important, especially if you want to rezone a property. Um the land use map, in fact, underlies the zoning map. So, the land use map establishes the locations where the zones are allowed, and then that is also uh a requirement so that the zones implement the preferred uh land use pattern that is identified in the comprehensive plan, right? We want uh the taller buildings and the apartments here and we want the industrial uses over there. Um, the zoning map, sorry, where the land use map is the 20-year, you know, future land use growth map, the zoning map implements the land use map today. What kind of zone is it? This is what is allowed today. Sometimes the zones do not exactly match that land use map and you get people who want to come in for a rezone. So, if you are looking to rezone your property, say, I have a single, you know, I have a zone that's kind of single family and I want to do an apartment and I come into the city. The first thing we do is check the land use map to say, "Okay, what's your land use designation?" Um, if it's, you know, low-density residential and you want to do a five-story apartment, you're not going to be able to do that because that zoning is inconsistent with that land use designation. So, that's why this relationship and this kind of, you know, sandwich or pancaking of these two maps is is I think an essential one and it's why we want to have clear policies and and zoning. So, additional analysis, just so that you know, we have land use land use designations and zones referenced together in the comprehensive plan now. If you open up the land use and sustainability element, you can find some examples. The housing element appendices, there's this really cool housing inventory if you want to look at it ever. So, this is the example from the land use element and while it's in the comprehensive plan and it includes information where here's a land use designation and there are zones next to it, it does not currently officially establish that these zones implement the comprehensive plan. Previous versions of comprehensive plan had this information and we'd like to put it back in there just to get that consistency and clarity back. We also went through the land use code to find out how the zones were represented and how they aligned with comprehensive plan and implementing that vision. And if you go to 18400.030, establishment of zones, you can see there's information and a table and the information um that is on screen is the uh set of four zone categories that are established. I think you know that a few years ago that this really big update of title 18 was done and this uh these kind of clear statements about what kind of zones we have and what zones, you know, kind of are related to these categories. And that's really great work and that really helped us as we were thinking about clarity for the land use designations. So, what we did is go to the comprehensive plan, look at the nine land use designations, which in this table are on the left, and compare those to those four categories of zones. And where you can kind of see that there's alignment, um some of the zone categories, even though their names are clear, it's not clear which, you know, of the um land use designations fits where, right? We have low-density residential and multi-family residential. Are they in residential or what? And so, actually multi-family is residential is in the mixed use in the mixed zones category. Okay, that kind of makes sense. Um but, you know, could we make that clearer? Urban Village or actually retail, uh which category are we are we commercial or we mixed zones? That one actually is in mixed zones. Um and then Ooh, got that little lag in the animation. So, Urban Village is also in mixed zones, but it's not immediately clear. So, again, just showing you what we were finding uh before giving you this recommended set of changes. So, we would like to uh recommend renaming uh some of the land use designations to clarify their roles and to increase alignment between the comprehensive plan, title 18, um and also uh uh we wanted to change something in Title 18. And so, we have not only comprehensive plan amendments that we are talking about, but also some changes to the land use code. So, what are we proposing um in terms of low-density residential for the land use uh designation, we'd like to change it to residential. That um it is a wider uh you know, category of zones. It's not just single-family, and it would allow the middle housing to easily fit at you know, within that category. We also looked at multi-family residential, retail, mixed use, and urban village, all those designations. And mo they all allow mixed use. Urban village is a little bit of an outlier because that land use category is for the um areas that are um regulated through development agreements. So, they're kind of their own beast, so they're you know they they still are related to mixed use, but um not going to go into that. We're not going to change that. But, we did think three different types of mixed use land use designations, mixed use residential, medium, and high would fit better with the mixed zones in Title 18, and be more obvious to people um in terms of understanding what their intent is. We're also proposing to change commercial to industrial because in fact, the light industrial warehouse type uses are really what we're talking about as uh the the type of uses allowed there. Um also wanting to change again uh the commercial zone uh category to industrial zones in Title 18 for consistency. So um let's see here. Oh, um what are other changes that we would like to make? This is basically the same table you just saw, but we added to the right another column that actually shows you the zones that implement each of those categories. And we just want to share that um they are all consistent right now. We don't need to make any changes in the zone uh zones that implement categories, whether it's in Title 18, or whether it's in the in the comprehensive plan land use designations. But this next, uh, more involved, uh, table is what Emily gets to explain to you, and this is our recommendation around the mixed use zone. All right. So, our new recommended mixed use land use designation, so the mixed use residential, mixed use medium, mixed use high, uh, Kate gave me the lovely task of combing through all of our zones and seeing which one they fit with best. So, this is the just gnarly table that's in the packet with all my strike outs and underlines and little notes to try to describe how we went about this. Um, so cleaner version on your screen, this is just what the end result recommendation is. Um, so on the left, like I said, the recommended land use designation renames, and then on the second column is, um, how we're recommending the zones align with these land use designations. So, currently they're kind of all over the map. Um, I went through each zone, um, and uh, looked at the permitted uses for the zone, the different form and intensity standards um height, density, that sort of thing for each zone, uh, and then categorized them from least intense to most intense, and then split that up into the three different land use designations. So, top mixed use residential, we're recommending MFM and MFH. Um, these are mostly four stories, and they're mostly, uh, permitted uses are heavily residential with some small-scale neighborhood uses. Uh, mixed use medium, step above that, has, um, medium intensity, um, small-to-larger scale retail and service uses, and then four stories, but some of the zones can go a little bit higher as well. And then mixed use high is those more high-intensity commercial uses, um allowing large, um high-density residential, and much higher, um height. So, those are the uh that's how we are recommending those land use designations be implemented in the zoning code. So, the considerations for the commissions, we have three general questions to get some feedback on. Um first, do the proposed changes to the names of the land use designations clarify their intent and purpose? Second, does the proposed organization of implementing zones increase consistency between our comp plan and title 18 code? And then third would be should staff move forward with drafting the land use designation descriptions and related policy and code updates in line with the proposals? For that, aka, we didn't want to write land use designation descriptions if the commission did not agree with how we were proposing we name them. And that's it for now. Okay, well, thank you, Emily and Kate. Let's open it up to the commission for questions, comments. Again, this is a discussion so all of it's welcome. Commissioner Krass. Hi, can you go back a few slides? Cuz I think it's super helpful. Especially the one that has Go back one more. Go back. It's uh that that's a good one. Oh. Um let's use uh um Go forward one. So, one of the things I'll I'll ask Give as an example as a question. So, I live uh I guess it's part of Issaquah Valley. So, I live in a single-family house. I have condos on one side, apartments. So, I think we're right now multi-family residential. I would think our land use is, if I had to guess. Um with the new change, it's just going to be residential, it sounds like. Is that correct? Correct. >> Okay. I'm just curious. Does it Does it matter to if someone wants to build a single family home or a townhouse in either of these designations or is it just this doesn't really change what people can and can't do based on just the the new broader just residential? No. So, we're not proposing to rezone anything at this time, just changing the names. >> Okay. So, really there's not really We're just kind of cleaning up to have less names and All right. Commissioner Adair. Uh yeah, I have a kind of a question and a follow-up statement. My first question would be something like office space. That That would be falling under mixed. Do I understand that correctly? Like let's say REI headquarters or Costco headquarters, those would be under what zone or what designation? I don't know what REI is zoned off the top of my head, but for instance, our zone one of our zones is it's a little bit hard cuz offices are permitted in a lot of zones. Um so, but professional office is one of our zoning, PO, and that would be in mixed use medium. Okay. So, yeah, so my follow-up is this is mostly good, but I think I feel like the mixed use medium and high differing from you go mixed use residential, then you go mixed use medium, mixed use high. I feel like that's a little bit confusing. Um I get including mixed, and I think that's a good idea. I just it feels like to me it should be low, medium, high or residential dash, and then the medium should be something else and Does that make sense? It absolutely makes sense, and 2 plus hours were spent right there on that [laughter] exact one with our whole planning department. We went back and forth a lot between low, medium, high. And I guess I will explain the reason we ended up on this and then it's commission's decision what we go forward with. >> [clears throat] >> We ultimately decided with mixed-use residential because the implementing zones for those multi-family medium and multi-family high are heavily residential zones. There's very limited commercial uses that are allowed in those. So when looking at a land when looking at the land use name, it's much more representative of what that area is by calling it mixed-use use residential and a much clearer idea by just reading the name. And that comes from like Kate referenced, you know, I talked to developers almost every day and there is multiple times that they come in and they say, you know, what does the city want to see here? So having that clarity where you can just say this is our future land use designation. Having that clear is that's why we ended up on that mixed-use residential. Did I forget anything? Okay. I'm going to I also want to note that so Costco is in Central Issaquah. It's in the urban core zone. And but the urban core also allows for trailhead. So those are really intense uses and they're both ones residential and one is office. And then mixed-use medium where you have the mixed-use residential, you've got Target, which is much lower. It's lower story, can't go as high. Vail, Atlas. So those are all those are again mixed-use residential and commercial, but they are much lower density than what would be allowed in the urban core and mixed-use Central Issaquah. And mixed-use. Commissioner Matthews. Oh, sorry. Oh. Kate, did you want to follow up? >> I just wanted to say really quickly that um again, we did debate this because it's hard to convey clearly what we're what we're trying to say. The low, medium, high, really the the the character of mixed-use residential is mostly residential, mostly, you know, apartment or even middle housing. Um we did look at other cities and in other cities they also kind of do that kind of mixed-use residential, residential mixed-use kind of thing before they jump to like kind of mixed one or two or three or whatever. So, again, we landed here um and the zones um are also aligned um very carefully. Uh multifamily medium, multifamily high. I mean, those are uh multifamily uh medium, Old Town multifamily high, East Sunset. Thank you. Still learning the zones from my tutor over here. Um so, you know, if it was kind of a question, then looking at what the zones allow would be your next step probably as a developer going to the permitted uses and form intensity tables and then, you know, that would sort out. But, again, uh appreciate the conversation we had. This averted of it. Uh Commissioner Matthews. Yeah. So, I kind of had the same when I first saw this, I was like, what does mixed-use medium mean? Are you talking about density? Are you talking about height? Are you You So, I didn't I was very confused by that and I wondered if like if somebody's a developer, if they would understand they may cuz I'm not a developer what that means cuz it to me it's just like, what? Mixed-use high? High what? Height, you know, density. So, it just seems like a little unclear still. But, that's where the descriptions come in, which would be the next step. So, if you agree with the zones that are in here, then they we work we start writing the descriptions that So, the when the developers come in, we it's explained for them. And I would follow up on that as being being in I I used to work as a consultant in many cities, it is a common designation and the the medium um that's why we didn't just go based off building height or we didn't just go based off permitted uses. It's really medium intensity kind of all around. It's our medium height limits, our medium density. The the examples Kristen gave were great for that. Yeah. Mr. Crass. So, can you help dimensionalize the difference between medium and high? Or and and the reason why I'm asking that is does there need to be two or is just it's you have residential and you have mixed and then you have everything else and then it could be zoned at a by certain height or density. I'm just wondering whether these are distinct enough. So, can you give some examples of what would be in each of these? >> Sure. That may make me understand a little clearer. Yeah. It's a great question because that was also something we debated as if we wanted three categories or two. Um, that we went back and forth on as well. Um, example-wise, um, like Kristen was talking about if you want specific building examples or you're talking about specific standards. Oh. Building. Like this here it would fall in this. This here would fall in that. Just so we understand. >> Cuz that'll help Trailhead. That Things that already exist. Oh, off the top of my head. Um, urban core and then mixed use. Costco is high in high mixed use high and Target is mixed use medium to steal Kristen's examples. Target and Costco seem kind of similar. That's why I'm wondering whether like that's I No, you're talking about the store, I assume. >> All of it. All of Costco. I was thinking of that too. >> the store as well as their corporate headquarters are all in urban core. I just feel like Okay, keep going with examples. I'm just trying This is a Well, now I'm I'm running out of these. >> and high. I'm just having like it kind of seems like one big lump and there's like a It's like a spectrum of like and you can have Um, so I mean there's definitely a difference between, as you were saying, mixed use residential and then the rest, right? So, for the rest uh you know, in terms of medium, it is mostly you're going to be four stories, 40 ft mostly is allowed with the opportunity to do some incentives or or bonus programs. You can be in different areas, but I'm going to go ahead and show you this map again. I know it's always nice to have things in three. Well, and but but sometimes do you Do you need that? That's so this will be helpful if you So, what I wanted to share is that so for the highest intensity um mixed use high, you've got your urban core in red here, and I think you've heard the term wedding cake before. So, if you think of land use designations by height and intent by height alone, the highest buildings are going to be allowed in your mixed use high, right? With with bonuses up to 125 ft maybe um in like the urban core. So, that's the top of the wedding cake in the red. If you go down a notch to the medium, that's where you're going to have your your Front Street, your um uh Issaquah Highlands um little town center, I'm not sure what it's called, like the purple on the land use designation map. So, that is kind of a different tier, a different scale of um development. Now, are there some overlaps? Yes, there are, and you can choose as a developer to go to four stories or to go up higher, but what you would likely see in full build-out if you just went for all the capacity you could is the mixed use high is those tallest buildings with the most number of units if you're talking about you know, mixed use residential, where medium is going to be a a lot shorter, you know, buildings fewer units, and then the residential is going to be apartments with just a tiny bit of mixed use or no mixed use at all or ground floor commercial. So, those three tiers kind of help with that differentiation of just magnitude and and scale of development for, you know, development community coming in. Where can I put my biggest buildings? I'm going to start with the high designations and work my way down from there. I don't know if that was helpful and I know Kristen wanted to share something as well. >> it's I mean, you're talking about the future, which I get cuz um the examples that you gave made me think that they were this very similar. So, it's really from what I mean, the things that we have right now, it's a little harder to peel them apart. Is that what you're saying? But in the future when I'm 85 years old and we have a train station and all this other stuff, um then they'll probably be taller buildings and those would be mixed-use high around there. Is that correct? And keep in mind it's a 20-year plan. Too. So, this isn't for what's here, it's for planning for the future. >> [laughter] >> Thank you, John. Um any other feedback? Questions? I think this is probably as far as being on the commission, this is probably one of the more, I don't know, brain-draining parts of it is the the zoning and all of it. It takes me a while and then every single time I think I got it, they throw a monkey wrench in it and I start it all over. But I definitely for simplifying, definitely want to make it simpler for everyone. Um definitely would prefer that you guys wordsmith it the way you guys think that's going to be the most helpful with all the people that Emily alluded to that she talks to today. I think that's the point, that's the goal. Anything that moves that way, I think it's probably appropriate. Anyone else? Yes, Commissioner Holstrom. I appreciate the effort on simplifying things. I feel like what you're saying. I mean, I'm all for that and I think it's great. And We're going to have to see more of that. Yeah, we're in like a streamlining kind of uh year, I suppose. So, um that's great. Um does anyone have anything else to put Okay, Commissioner Zakharova. Thank you. Well, I would like to also say thank you for simplifying things around because I'm the one who's been uh trying to understand zoning since almost 20 years ago when I started doing business. And uh trying to understand why I'm allowed in one zone and not allowed in the other zone. And I've been through a lot of different cities and all of those cities over the years and their rezoning processes and that's really it's a pain, uh for sure. So, I appreciate that and I kind of like um well, I understand the multi zoning with high density and with lower density and everything in between. It includes It also includes It's not just a height. It also includes the traffic. It also includes the overall tension in the area. So, I was explained it too many times, but yeah, thank you so much. To me, it's clear. To me, it's clear. I want to see the explanations as well, of course. And I'm sure we will go through that. But yeah, I I looked at it just briefly and I'm like, yeah, oh, yeah. That's super fast. Thank you. The cleanup crew. Okay. Um anyone else? Sure, Vice Chair Patterson. Uh yes, one I guess consideration um and again, I'm deferring to the people that use the code more and you as the experts, but is there any risk to removing the term retail at all? Um and the only reason I say is like I feel like a lot of this is simplification and um streamlining and you know, consolidating terms, but retail in particular seems maybe a little bit different. Um if you were to merge it into like mixed-use medium, mixed-use high, um, it could potentially get misconstrued as like favoring residential, perhaps, or, you know, I don't I don't know. I don't really have an opinion myself, but I just kind of wanted to throw that out there as like, is that worth considering at all? Well, and I think you're speaking to a kind of the characteristics of some certain zones that implement retail, um, uh, cultural and business district, I believe CBD on Front Street. I'm still learning. Sorry, there's 37 zones here and I'm a little new to being here. So, um, you know, there are, um, zone descriptions and establishment of zones in the in in the land use code, um, and development standards associated with that standard that would, um, promote retail uses like along there, um, and and that kind of thing. Retail is allowed as a use in all of those mixed-use zones, um, to a to a certain extent, right? Um, very few in multifamily medium, but I so, residential is also allowed, is that So, that's what we weighed. So, I I mean, I I hope we can capture what in the in the land use descriptions, the land use designation descriptions, as well as the zone descriptions, what the intent of that original intent was from retail. We are drawing from, uh, the previous comprehensive plans and their land use designations. They're really, you know, the foundational documents to help us, uh, you know, rewrite or write in, uh, these these new descriptions. So, we'll we'll try to preserve that and we'll come to you and get your your guidance on that. Yeah, I appreciate that. I think, uh, just having seen this the first time, we're probably all like, what does it mean? And you're like, well, we're going to tell you the next time. So, I think this all makes sense. I am on board with the simplification. Uh, you know, just coming at from a like small, medium, large, low, medium, high thing, like that all makes sense. So, I think we're on the right track. I think once we get the descriptions, you know, some tensions will be eased. Thank you. Now, I just want to say that also there's no longer a retail zone in the city either. That was that was a holdover from 1995, I think, and the uses are just much more blended now than they used to be. I think just by the way we all live. So, no there's no there's no um What was the word you used? Um anyway, there's nothing to worry about by removing that that description. Yeah, please commissioner. Examples are helpful. So, Gilman Village for example, which only has like little shops and all that, what would that be considered in this land use? Um as an actual land use, it's probably retail, but they fall under the mixed-use Central Squa zone. Is that in Central Squa? Gilman Village? >> It is in Central Squa, just barely. Is it really? Really. Yes. All right, anything else? We like examples, Kate. Lots of examples. Bring your examples. >> [laughter] >> Pictures, please. >> just have a few slides on the second proposal cuz we've already taken care of some of the items of conversation. So, as you may recall, the proposed amendment number two specifically to clarify the names of the low-density and multi-family land use and zoning designations to ensure compliance with the state's middle housing requirements. Um this is really focused on look at all the zones that say single-family in it and how they roll up into the land use designations and you know, uh are they conveying the right uh message? So, why are we doing this? Um last year the middle housing ordinances came through because the state uh changed the rules around single-family zoning um as one of the many goals of increasing affordable housing supply, uh increasing the number of housing, the state required um all cities to to allow uh middle housing in zones that allow single family uses. So, in Issaquah, with the size of city we are, what is allowed in each single family lot is two to four units. You get of middle housing, townhouse, that kind of thing. Two units, but you could go up to four under certain conditions. Are you close to high capacity transit? Well, we don't have any yet yet in Issaquah. And if one unit is affordable of the four, then you can to a certain income level, you can get four units on the lot of middle housing. The laws also that were passed allowed two ADUs, two accessory dwelling units on each lot with a single family or or primary resident resident. So, that goes from, you know, allowing single family and ADU to two ADUs, so three units per lot. That was the big increase there. So, again, we um were looking at these zones, known as called single family, that I'll show you in a minute, and doing our analysis by reviewing what's in the code now, just to verify, just to share with you. As I mentioned, in single family zones, we allow middle housing, six types duplex triplex fourplex townhome, single family attached, and cottage housing with just a few photos there. Um also, I wanted to show you this cool map. There's actually a really cool study that was done to support the middle housing code amendments. So, there are uh 1 2 3 4 5 Six single family zones. I remembered that before the presentation. Five of which have the name single family in them, right? We have conservancy residential. That's one of the, you know, largest lots in in areas that really are conservation areas that allow just, you know, a tiny bit of housing. Then we have single family duplex, which is mostly located in Old Town. Single family estates, single family suburban which are larger lot, single family probably where critical areas are or maybe lack of utilities. Also single family small lot and urban village single family. So we have a lot of single family single family when in reality you can do more than single family in these zones. So we took a look took a look at what other cities are doing tried to get to alignment with what our new proposal for comprehensive plan land use designations were and we came up with this chart. And these proposals. So as you'll recall in land in terms of the land use designation that was low density residential since that now allows middle densities we went with just the general residential use designation. Of all our existing zones we decided to start with residential in the in their name and then kind of preserve the existing name in some cases or try to clarify what type of single family was. So you know residential conservancy just kind of change flip the name a little bit residential estates, residential large lot those are kind of the again those larger lot types of areas. And then for the smaller lots we we kept basically the the small lot but now it's residential small lot. And then we did residential Old Town instead of residential duplex because of course more than duplexes are allowed in the single family zones. We also we're changing urban village single family to residential urban village. Right now there's these two different zones that are rolled up into one it's a little bit of a quirk in the code. We had our GIS uh uh analyst who's great to a look at like where is this zone? Emily didn't know, Kristen didn't know. And we found that we need to remove it because it doesn't exist anymore. So, or no, actually that was a different one. On this one, this one we found was not actually a parcel but bits of streets in the Highlands where they had a lot and then there's an irregular thing. They just instead of making it a different kind of tracked, they created these little zones. So, we're going to come back maybe next year with an idea about how to address this one. But we also found a zone that we're removing which is super exciting cuz you know, 37 we can get down to 36 and then maybe consolidate a few uh if they make sense in future years. So, that was um the last uh slide um on the proposals and the questions, considerations, you know, do you think these new zone names work? And should we move forward with drafting policy and code updates in line with the proposals? So, go ahead and put that chart back and open up for Excellent. Thank you, Kate. Would anyone like to comment on comprehensive plan two? Yeah, Commissioner Holstrom. Seems logical. Makes sense to me. So, I'd say good work. >> It's only logical. Okay. Um Yeah, no, I I would agree. Like I said, streamlining is good. Anybody? Commissioner Zackrow. I would also like to speak in support. Great job and this is super hard to clarify all of this, but yeah, thank you. Any further comment? Okay, I think you what you have is your commissioners trust. You guys obviously know your stuff. And again, the idea of just trying to make this streamline and easier for everybody. Full speed ahead. Cool. Thank you. Just a couple more slides to talk about next steps then. Um so, we'll take your comments. We will go ahead and uh you know, work on drafting specific proposals and we'll be bringing those to you. I will say that um in terms of the code amendments and changes to the code, there are a lot of citations that we're going to have to deal with. So, it's going to take us a while to uh make sure we uh you know, cross out single family everywhere where it is in Title 18. So, um what's the process looking like? Uh at this point, we'll come back later this spring um with those proposals. Um you will also see other uh proposed amendments coming through um in the summer for all of the complaint amendments. Um we'll have continued review, the public hearing, and then in fall is when we'll go to council uh for their review and action. Again, uh you can only uh uh amend the comprehensive plan once a year, so we have to get these amendments in by the end of the year. So, that was it. I didn't know if you had any final questions, but Uh do you guys have everything you need? Yes. Okay. Excellent. All right. Well, thank you, Kate. Thank you, Emily. Um thank you, Kristen. And we're going to move on to reports and looking at Kristen, do we have any city council or Kate, I'm not sure who's taking this, but city council updates. I just have one and that next Tuesday, which is May 19th, Manny and I are going to the Committee of the Whole Council and with the goal of taking all of the 17 proposed amendments or our work plan to them. And attached to each one of those, which will help you all, will be a goal for each one of those amendments and what the council wishes to see the out you know, what outcomes they wish to see with those. So, I think that'll help. We can once those are adopted, we can bring those to you all and remind you each time we go through these amendments what is the It's kind of like we did with Title 18, you may recall that. So, what is the goal? What is the outcome? And is this achieving it? So, I think that'll help with our discussions in the future. Great. May 19th? Okay. May 19th is when you guys present? Yes, May 19th. All right. Uh Any other business or announcements? None. Simple. Okay. Are there any updates to our calendar? I noticed that our calendar just got It goes all the way into 2027 now, so exciting stuff. Told you it was going to fill out. We weren't done yet. Uh anything to our calendar? Uh not right now. Just busy, busy. Which is great. Okay. Um Anything for the good of the order? From our commissioners? All right. Anything from staff? Okay. Well, thank you everyone, and we will adjourn this meeting of the Planning Policy Commission at 7:55 p.m. Thank you, and good night.