welcome to the December 13 meet 13th
meeting of the Planning Policy
Commission tonight we're going to talk
about the amendments to the
comprehensive plan and if anybody would
like to make any comments we'll be glad
to hear them I see lots of people out
there but first of all we have to now
that we have a official quorum we have
two things we have the approval of the
minutes from November the 8th so I have
a motion to approve the minutes I would
like to move to approve the minutes of
November 8th
second do I have any discussion we've
all read them so the motion is on the
table all those in favor say aye aye
opposed motion carries
moving on to the minutes of November the
15th do I have a motion like to make a
motion to approve minutes from November
15th well second although any discussion
all those in favor say aye
all right all those opposed hearing none
the motion carries with that I'm going
to open up the floor to our enemy policy
manager or an update on what the
amendments are to the comp plan
perfect perfect tonight is the
culmination of the 2018 Kathlyn
amendments that we do annually just to
remind you in January we've did the
docket list we had a public hearing and
you added some items to the docket list
that went through council and council
approved the docket list and we started
working on those items we've brought you
items three different meetings we did
the whole land-use element the first
meeting with you all and the parks
update and remember the parks element we
updated based on the parks strategic
plan we just pulled all those policies
from that adopted plan into the
Comprehensive Plan element so that was
pretty basic then
the 27th Kristin was here telling you
all about the transportation element
there was just a few changes to the
element itself and we also included the
transportation improvement program that
you've previously seen earlier in the
year and council had previously adopted
by state law that has to also be brought
into the transportation element so
that's sort of a housekeeping shall we
say measure to pull that into the
adapted new element and then we had a oh
you also did the implementation
strategies where we tried to prioritize
and get a finer grain on the
implementation strategies for the whole
comp plan and so that was kind of an
interesting discussion we had on all the
all the projects we would love to do
then we had a really great discussion
with the school board and the school
district about urban schools and compact
schools and what their expectations are
and what your expectations are and we
had a super great discussion with them
which ended up to have some compact
school policies some urban school
policies and two definitions of urban
schools and compact schools for you all
tonight you're going to be seeing two
pieces that you haven't seen before and
one of those is the utilities public
service element and the other one is
capital facilities element and the
reason these are coming later than we
would have liked is the water system
plan which is a huge document that's
moving through the council right now
it's supposed to be adopted by them
we're hoping in January and we need to
put the policies in the water service
plan and make sure they're in our
comprehensive plan because our
comprehensive plan is the umbrella of
everything in the city and so we put
those in and so it's just like the park
plan and the park element that we're
trying to make the Comprehensive Plan
the the holder of all that's current and
so you'll be getting a presentation by
Emily on that tonight for capital
facilities we were not going to update
that because as you all know parts of it
are very out of date and need to have
rate studies and for the L OS for fire
police
you know the list goes on but as we
started the fire the work on the fire
impact fees we realized that there was
no capital plan for future capital
facilities that are needed by fire in
the plan because it's so old and so we
needed to tuck those into this go-around
so we could update the fees next year
otherwise we couldn't get them in till
next year at the end of the year and we
couldn't do the fire impact fees then
until 2020 so we wanted to quick get
those in and also from all of our
discussions with the school impact fees
we took another look at what growth
Management Act requires us to say about
the school districts six-year plan and
we made sure that our element says
exactly what GMA says we have to say
about the school district plan so that
we are able to have impactful school in
PEG fees just as a quick summary in the
land-use element that you saw in
September it updated the population
housing data and the job data we updated
the land use designation map transfer of
development rights policy direction for
building on slopes acquisition of
forested hillsides yay and we had the
policy for compact and urban schools and
at the end as you may recall
Lindsay wrote a great email right after
she got the packet thank you very much
of all the questions she had and then
staff trying to answer them all and got
it back to you all on Monday and so if
we want if anyone wants to go over any
or all of that email and the questions
she had we're happy to do that part of
that that she brought up was the the
interesting way that the population
projections are calculated and we
thought she made a very good point that
they were probably more complicated for
forecasting than they had to be knowing
that forecasting is never absolutely
correct
there's many variables that are part of
that
none of which we have a crystal ball and
can guess them accurately every time so
we simplified them like Lindsay had
mentioned to just to be divided by how
many year you know the growth divided by
how many years so that there's not
we even contacted the planner that had
done this before for many years and she
said she agreed yes it was pretty
convoluted it made sense at the time but
if I were you and with the end of the
development agreements and central you
know being going strong now and the
moratorium being over she goes I would
just go back to having it be
straightforward we said okay so the
highlighted areas in yellow are
different than in your packet based on
Lindsay's question and our delving into
the formulas a little better and those
are much more the question that I had
there was basically that if our most
recent growth and I'm I'm having to find
it on here but I believe it was
something like 6% why we were looking at
closer to 1 to 2% in the future years I
can't quite read that up there so I
don't know what you corrected to I think
it's now the first change from 2010 to
2011 4% which is accurate because it is
2018 but the other two then as we
project from 19 to 2020 we just took the
growth and divided it by the years so
it's pretty much the same as it is from
210 to 218 and then we did a similar
formula for 2020 to 2025 and that went
down to 1.8 6%
ok let me see if I get this correctly in
my head so what was in our packet was a
6.8%
average yearly gross right for a total
increase of twenty one point nine five
percent but what you're correcting to is
saying well it didn't actually grow
twenty two percent over that eight-year
period because a growth of from thirty
thousand four hundred and thirty four
people to thirty six thousand seven
hundred and fifteen is not twenty one
percent right okay so we have now the
corrected numbers which is good and it
shows similar to slightly decreasing
growth over those periods rather than
rapidly dropping growth right didn't
make sense all right and and while we're
on the table you had asked two really
good questions why are the Highlands and
talus why are those numbers changing now
that it's 2018 and because we did the
end of development agreements we
actually knew what was left entitled and
what wasn't and so they're actually
existing conditions in this chart
whereas all the years before we just
gave them their entitlement and we never
questioned if they're going to make it
or not because they had so much time to
make to get their entitlement and so now
that we knew that things were over we
adjusted them all to end the development
agreement use existing conditions for
this year and then in the future just to
put the remaining entitlement that was
agreed upon in the development agreement
ending for the future years so that's
why this one looks a little different
than it has for many many years for
those two yeah so it's not like we lost
houses it's just that we were estimating
over and when we had to do the actual
count for the end of the development
agreement these are now actual numbers
correct kind of correct any other
questions with the pop chart
transportation was pretty
straightforward again it was the
six-year TI P that you had already
looked at it was the commute trip
reduction act information that Kristin
presented we revised the Sound Transit
three policies a little bit and updated
the non-motorized map and also the
commuter production act also went into
the central plan as well and some of the
wording we had those new the new words
that they want us to use that are longer
than the old words still don't quite
understand why we have to use a longer
word but there it is and this is the new
word we have to use the non-drive alone
trip instead of single occupancy vehicle
and we added transportation management
action plan to the definitions as well
we already talked about the Parks and
Rec element being now the same as the
strategic plan and remember next year
you all asked to go through the goals
and policies again and you got your wish
it's on the docket for next year so
hoorah for that and then we also did the
implementation strategies we've already
looked at those we've updated them and
prioritized them and these are the new
pieces I'm going to turn over to Emily
and she's going to share what happened
with the two new elements
hello commissioner is not my name is
emilie are tha I'm a Senior Planner here
in development services I have some
notes at the bottom of the screen I
wanted to display why I gave my brief
presentation do you mind if I restart
the PowerPoint presentation okay I think
you just hit
yeah but I was just wondering on when
you hit the PowerPoint presentation
there's a display that allows you to
show not without my notes on it though
oh yeah if you hit if you hit
oh so you can see their notes what they
can't see yeah yeah hi do you help it's
pretty simple because I've done it many
times before I know you could do mmm
like slide master yeah it's a review
slide show that was on VOD there was a
human tation automatic news timing play
narratives show media controls used to
having use view presentation monitor
primary monitor I might have to just not
use them if I can't figure that out
can you I don't think they mind sing the
notes yeah it's really fine okay I mean
it's not like you used any bad words or
anything as far as I know so Trish I'm
sorry where do you you just you just do
that and how do you pull it up right
okay and then you would just when you
want to go to that when you just really
like to bring up anything while we're
waiting so that everybody knows all
right we're actually all right well you
can see my notes and hopefully I didn't
misspell anything on the bottom because
they weren't intended they were not
intended for a public view so this is
the first time that Trish had as Trish
introduced that you'll be seeing the
water plan it was last updated in 2012
so it's been a while and since that a
lot has changed the city's had the
development agreements there's Dallas
and is Highlands and central
Issaquah plan that was recently adopted
I mean basically right at the same time
that the last water plan was updated and
as at the same time about a thousand new
service connections south Cove and the
Greenwood Point neighborhood came on
board this water plan is a substantial
document it's it's equivalent to having
a comprehensive plan like the one these
amendments are going into so it is a
full-bodied document up to two hundred
and thirty nine pages similar to what
you'd see for the Sammamish plateau
Water and Sewer District water
comprehensive plan so it's a substantial
document and if you haven't noticed
there's been a significant increase in
the number of policies added to the
document thirty-two new additional
policies came on board and they deal
mostly with
water system design and operation and I
also just wanted to mention too that as
a result of this update a significant
finding in the study that they did to
update this plan determined that
additional treatment of groundwater
would be needed and then along with that
the 32 new additional policies and
they're very detailed with regards to
operation and design system design so if
you read through them you'll see a lot
of the words of maintenance and and
indications of fire flow and things like
that and you'll also notice that there's
a uniform treatment and information of
these policies all geared towards the
utility customer including the one we
have right now as well as future utility
water utility customers and you may not
have noticed but this was part of a
larger public involvement program back
in May 2018 the City Council had a
public hearing on this and so it went
through a full process in order to get
to the point where it's out right now to
have the developed goals and policies in
the plan which we can literally lift and
put into our comprehensive plan to
provide a proper storage or housing for
it though the document is really very
large and it's right now if you'd like
to look at it I put up the website where
you could go and find the document on
the Issaquah webpage under is s AQ u HW
a.gov dot backslash water plan are there
any questions with regards to the water
plan update is this actual what's
actually going to be in the comp plan or
is once the water
is approved by the city that then
changes are going to come back here
right we did think about that that's a
great question there are no anticipated
changes to the goals and the policies
and for that reason it is not likely to
come back with any additional changes
but should it go through the council and
should a change occur we could address
that and/or bring it back to you if you
prefer that would be next year though it
would be next year yeah it's scheduled
to go through to the council on January
22nd that was kind of what my question
was is that are we would we be naturally
reviewing this with next year's comp
plans when we kind of go through the
entire document obviously not the new
material but if they changed anything
between now and January you would see it
again next year so it's my understanding
that with the water system plan and City
Council's review that there are some
questions that are still up in the open
such as fluoridation and you know
whether or not they're going to move
between the three choices of how to
provide water do do any of those affect
the policies or is that just the
implementation side okay so
so should there be policies in here
about water fluoridation and potentially
like the pretty fast treatments and
different things like that
there there could be there could be
there could be a floor of fluoride
related policy at this point there are
there's not it's not anticipated it's
what the Public Works Department has
indicated so again I'm going off of
information from outside of this meeting
and outside of what we're presented so
excuse me if I say something incorrectly
but my understanding is it's a qual
receives two sources of water from
groundwater and from yeah cascade is
that what it is yeah cascade water
alliance yeah yeah and one of them is
fluoridated and the other one is not and
so that comes in and certain areas are
receiving or are there suggesting that
Telus is only going to receive one of
those sources of water and so basically
I think what I'm getting at is it feels
like we do not have a lot of the
information that would be needed to
evaluate the policies behind a water
system plan I would back that up I I
think what I was wondering is if
basically this was a little bit like our
Parks Department thing where we're like
this is a good update and how do we
actually then take this and implement
policy I mean we've we've dictated a lot
of things in the comp plan about what we
want for the city why do we not have
anything that says this is exactly what
we want from our water right now it felt
a little bit like well we're gonna leave
to the utility and you know hope it
shakes out okay and so I was kind of
wondering if this was like our first
stab and next year we'll be fine-tuning
this there could be an opportunity for
fine-tuning it is very much like the
parks element
so the parks element goals and policies
were cultivated through the parks
department on their own through a
separate process and they asked us to
put it into our comprehensive plan
so unlike the land-use element and other
elements this is one that the work was
done elsewhere and we were simply asked
to put it back into the comprehensive
plan
it certainly is there's an opportunity
for us to come back with the utilities
element again next year show you what
exactly was adopted from the council and
do any additional work that time along
with the parks plan I'd feel better with
that writer moving it along yeah I'm I
don't see anything in here that is a
problem to put into the comprehensive
plan but I'm a little bit like I feel
kind of floored that that's coming in
and I'm like whoa what what are the
questions that should be asked you know
what and what are the policies that are
gonna come out of this and with that
information like I felt like we kind of
missed a step a little bit and I I
didn't feel like it was a negligent
thing I felt like it was like we're
still processing what we want our water
plan to be so I appreciated the update
and was kind of after going through it I
kind of realized I was like alright well
we'll see what were presented tonight
but I kind of wanted to see if this was
something that could be a little more in
process mm-hmm so am I correct hearing
that you'd like to see this come back to
you again maybe even at the same time
that the parks element comes back I
don't think they're related as far as
when they come to to us but and
especially I'm not sure when it's coming
to us but I'd like this to have a little
bit more time I don't know that I
definitely want to look at this again in
January or February I want to see what's
adopted and be able to actually have you
guys take the time to peace out and say
what is our policy plan as far as as far
as what is our standards for water how
are we going to get that where our
checks and levels rather than just right
now it's just all kind of dumped on the
utilities that make sense so I'd like to
see it again I wouldn't I would love to
have that writer of we it would make me
happy to pass this along knowing that we
were going to redress how the
actually bakes into our policy I would
agree
the only part that comes to mind that I
would warn about and we'd have to check
with Public Works is the water system
plan is regulated by the state whereas
the parks plan is not and so let's say
next year you looked at the goals and
policies and you had changes I'm not
sure how often we're allowed to go to
the state with changes I'm not aware
because that's not a program that that
we've ever been in charge of you know we
usually put whatever they've adapted
through their public process into our
conference into our comp plan so we
could we could see on you know if you
worked on the policies and goals if we
would be able to actually amend them
before the next roll through of the
water system plan Lindsay brought up the
question of fluoridation mm-hmm that's
not determined by the state I mean in
the way that there are two different
things coming in one has fluoride one
does not so the state is not going to
recognize that it comes from the city
right they regulate one we have to
update water swim plans well I think
it's every six or eight years it's
something like that like the comp plan
is every year so I'm just worried that
if you should change things I'm not sure
when the state would let us actually put
those amendments in play
it's a deadline just submit to the state
one is that I'm not sure because that's
again that's public works its process
and they hope to be adopted in January
but we'll certainly run that through to
see if we're able to do that like we are
with the parks element
yeah I actually heard some of the
commissioners indicate that they wanted
maybe more of an in-depth understanding
of the water plan is that correct of how
it functions and works that
he
right in theory you would the city I'm
sorry I mean you Emily um would take
that in-depth research and then be able
to parlay that into what is it that we
want to see for our city maybe that
means something you know fluoridation is
an example of something where we have a
disconnect and something where we may
hold ourselves to a higher standard than
what the utility may bring us and so
then what are we going to do to create
that situation where we kind of have our
own our own plan we create policies for
the water plan based on that study so it
wouldn't be the entire plan because
obviously we don't need to go into
detail about where pipes and connections
and you know all of those things but the
policies around what our water treatment
should be like for our city whether or
not it again we have higher standards or
something like that I think is something
that we'd like to talk about so I don't
know how that meshes in with water
system plan and when it's required to be
submitted the next update is in 10 years
after this so it's 10 at 10 it's a 10
year update yes mm-hmm the plan has not
been adopted by council so they could
add in there whatever they want they
could they could and if they change
something I think it would be more
important to bring it back and show you
what those changes are okay so with the
input from the commissioners that there
a few things that need to be can be
added with that discussion then go to to
the council as you're presenting the
plan so they at that point in time they
could put specific things into the plan
that do not have to be actually
addressed in this policy statement right
here
let me write let me see if I understand
what you're saying if they put something
additional into the plan it doesn't
affect what you have before you right
now if they change but if they change
specifically the policies or the goals
that are in that plan well that yeah
then it would affect what you see right
here right that's true but adding in a
description of of what the water quality
should be like yet would not affect no
yeah that might not affect at all the
goals in the policy that you have before
you yeah correct and it's not likely
that the goals and policies are going to
change and that's why we felt
comfortable bringing to that these to
you at this point so we felt like they
were volatile and they were change and
shifting we wouldn't have been able to
bring it forward and the council will be
done with that before they're done with
this so if they do change things they
would be able to put the changes also
into the comp plan if they choose so
they're seeing this after that right but
then we would bring it back to you to
show you what the final piece was and
see if you had that's exactly what
you're asking I think so okay great the
other element that has some minor
changes to it again it it's only minor
because we don't have all the fees study
the impact fees study done is to the
fire services which needed a six year
CIP listed in there so you'll see that
there's a new table in there that shows
that a new fire aid unit is going to be
needed as well as a new fire station and
so those are numbers that will help with
the city's future planning efforts
moving forward once they're established
in the city's comprehensive plan and
then there's another minor edit to
schools which indicates the latest CIP
for is Squa school district as I've
dated this year in 2018 so how do you
set impact these the amount of impact
these what is it
that the city is looking for we're doing
a rate study right now where we look at
their calls for service there the
facilities that they have now meaning
the buildings and the vehicles and we
find out if all of that match is still
with what they were before and if we're
able to keep keep the level of service
up for the growth that we're expecting
and fire is a little different than the
others in that fire we try to be ahead
of the curve and then the people that
come later sort of do a not a late
comers fee but it's sort of we we don't
want to be behind in fire service and
build-up to the growth we would rather
be a we've chosen to be ahead of growth
and then the late comers pay into it so
that the system is already built for a
little bit of growth so we have a buffer
there that we don't drop below and when
we start to drop below there's the chart
in there that you'll see when we update
them next year
and when you sort of get to that danger
how many minutes does it take to get to
a call and and that's when they hit they
need the new aid car and the new
facility so that they don't drop below
the how many minutes it takes for them
to get to the emergencies so when was
the last time it was updated 2006 so are
you sure that we are meeting our goals
right now yes because we did start the
update and that's when we realized that
the future piece was missing out of the
capital facilities like we totally
missed it because it's it's from 2006 so
that's why that had to go in here so we
could keep doing the rate study and
adopt new fees and a new rate study this
next year I understand that you have to
do it in the future to base it on it but
I was just from your explanation I was
concerned that 2006 is a it's a long
distance from 2018 right and I think we
had this discussion several times before
that
our police were not necessarily updated
to the right standard right and and
you're right that the the the rate study
wasn't updated but fire continues to do
everything they normally do with or
without a rate study that we would do
for them I mean they've been putting in
there the facilities that they need and
that vehicles they need you know they've
been carrying on that one you know
thankfully without us that concerned me
that that's such a you know you're
supposed to do six years well we we are
at about twelve years right right but no
they've been carrying on really well
without us keeping up as well as we
should have yeah and that's why you see
the aid card listed in the future in
2023 it's something they're predicting
they need by that time I would like to
make one request when you look at the
transfer I guess it's with utilities the
water the plant amendments that are here
your you have everything in yellow right
it's very difficult to read no I've
missed something because it's all blends
together so in the other amendments
you're you're fine you have have it in
red and so you can see the difference
between the two but it's very difficult
in this situation good point thank you
does anybody have any questions it's the
whole thing
I think Trish you have one more slide
don't you for next steps oh sure I just
have one question on the fire service
area before we move on considering we
know that there's going to need to be a
new fire station north of the i-90
when does that come up within the City
of locating what that person would be I
know that's not part of the
comprehensive plan but that obviously
comes up with this I would guess that
fire is looking for one as we speak just
because as we know from schools parcels
are hard to find so I would guess that
fires is in the process of looking now
knowing that it might take them till
when they would need it to find one to
find a suitable spot so fire is already
done a response study basically so it's
think about something with like
concentric circles for you could get to
this line in this many minutes in this
line in this many minutes so they know
we're optimally that new facility would
be and we actually acquired a piece of
property on East Lake Sammamish with
that intent unfortunately I think what
we found is that that piece of property
can't can't accommodate a fire station
so we're looking for another piece of
property so you know as we know with the
school district finding property is not
easy in Issaquah and so we actually have
a meeting with the chief maybe next week
maybe next week
where they're gonna help us understand
kind of their optimization map so that
we can then go look for property so it's
uh I mean they would build a temporary
station tomorrow if they could we've
actually talked to some property owners
Minh of along East Lake Sam and kind of
back behind where Siemens and Microsoft
are to see if there's property that
those property owners would be willing
to allow a temporary fire station to
sublease for a while so those things are
all happening right now and I think part
of you know the goal for us is having
that North Station would alleviate you
know the way our arrangement is with
Eastside Fire and Rescue is if something
in the city of Issaquah is served by a
station and Sammamish we pay a surcharge
and right now basically to get to
providence point they're coming from
Sammamish so that's the problem we're
trying to solve and I think it's you
know I think we're on as fast a track as
we can as soon as we find property then
assuming it's in the city we then have
to purchase it because stations built in
the city of Issaquah are built and paid
for by the city so that's a basic that's
a big capital expense right anything on
that
in a whole different place
she's am these would be the next steps
should you decide to move it forward
tonight it would go in January to the
council and the council Landon Shore
committee would would review it and I
guess now that the January meetings
canceled it would be February in March
for Landon Shore and then we would be
done in hopefully in March they just
canceled the January
Landon Shore I didn't update my slide
but we'd hope to be done in March then
any questions about the process or any
of the amendments or I'd like to go back
to the transportation element of this
and I'm looking at this lovely sheet
that we do every year and I understand
that past a certain year its hope that
we can get the funds it's something that
we think that maybe there's a
possibility of getting so under 2019 are
all of those funds and do you know what
page it is Joan it doesn't have a it's
the transportation capital request 29
that's out your own age something 9 of
69 I can't read it yeah might be 40 29
of 98
okay and are you asking if all of 2019
is funded yes
typically most of it should be shouldn't
be if it's in the 2019 I mean that being
that transportation engineer and having
this have been adopted I would think
that most of 2019 should be ready to go
otherwise it wouldn't be in 2019 but I'd
have to check to be completely sure that
that 2019 is funded I would hope that
you have the funds for I understand the
further out groundhogs that you hope and
assume that you're going to apply for
grants and and have funds from the city
but when you're in 2019 I'm assuming
that those things are being done like
six million dollars for the forty-third
way you have forty-third should be done
by sometime next year right we're not
forty wasn't specifically a second
budget was it so so part of the budget
deliberations there was a very brief
discussion that there are certain number
of transportation projects that I think
the council thought were fully funded
that are not and that was a 14 million
dollar number of unfunded projects that
I think the council thought were funded
the Providence point signal and there
were a number of people from Providence
point that came to the council budget
deliberations that particular project is
somewhere around eight million dollars
of unfunded appropriation councilmember
Ray as part of
his recommendations to include in the
budget was funding that unfunded eight
million dollars which then started a
conversation amongst the council about
well how do we talk about one and not
the entire thirteen but in the end of
the day they did include that eight
million dollars from Providence point in
either in the budget or in the council
president's letter with the budget so
somewhere it's immortalized that that
the council is going to have another
conversation about that eight million
dollars and fund that project I think
this year next year sorry it's December
so so that's so the answer is there are
a number of things that are not
completely funded so like well so the
hard thing is so you look at like TR 23
which is Newport maple to sunset and you
see there's an appropriation in 2019 but
then you also can see there's
appropriations in 2020 2021 so right now
if you were to ask if that project was
completely funded it is not there is an
appropriation that's set aside for 19
but you also need to get those future
appropriations to make that project
actually work I wasn't I assume that
there's going to be follow-on I just
wondered if what was actually in 2019
was funded whatever portion of those
projects were being done at least they
were being worked on like Providence
point that's been in the plan for 20
years now right so and I think I
answered specifically Providence point
the rest of this thing I am NOT I I do
not want to speak authoritative ly on
the TI p super not my ball of wax we
were more than happy to
we might be bringing some Public Works
Engineering's folks to the next PPC
meeting because
I think it would be helpful to have Bob
York here for conversation about the
water the water plan so so if if PPC
would like additional conversation about
the T IP because T IP is incorporated
into the comp plan so you guys kind of
touch it so if you have questions I
think we might want to have maybe
Sheldon come and answer those okay I
mean it depends on how deep you want to
get into the weeds I'm good at like this
level if you want to be down here I'm
gonna say probably not meaning no I just
basically I assume that if you put it in
a particular year that you especially
since it's next year that you would have
some understanding that yes indeed we
have that particular money to to work on
instead of well yeah but I'm gonna put
it over here and now I'm going to put it
back here you have at least some
semblance of order yes that's a good
answer
anything up yes
the the fire services area if that's a
six year period shouldn't that be
updated in the implementation actions on
the longer term ones that should also
basically it should be in the longer
term actions for 2024 and it's not
listed there on page 89 of 98 and which
ones not where the fire so let's see
what did we call it the capital
facilities plan that should be updated
at a six year period correct correct and
we have it in 219 to 220 and so you're
saying put it back in in the future year
yeah because particularly if we missed
doing it one time I think it would be
important to have that future date in
there so that we don't miss doing it
again and you would put it in the longer
term or this short term the longer term
well it should be in the longer term
actions if it's supposed to be a six
year update then it would be 2024 2025
okay
okay good catch any other comments I
have one minor question in the
transportation element there is a goal
to get 17% of the trips into biking and
walking mm-hmm what is that going to do
to the overall transportation plan if
17% only it's doing that how is that
going to help I think and what page are
you on is that just in central that
we're trying to I thought that was just
a central goal to get more transit or
more ped bike in transit it could be so
how did you come up with the the goal of
17% and what does that do to the
transportation itself in the city right
when we did that the original
transportation work for Central and we
figured out what our mode split between
single occupancy vehicle I'm still going
to call him that for a while
and all others transit ped bike I think
we were at 7% non sov bike and so we
were saying that in 20 years or whatever
I think it was a 20 year time period we
wanted to double it through through more
transit more bikes more peds and through
just the way that central was going to
be designed it would be much easier to
be a pet and a bike and we'd be denser
so hopefully we'd have more transit so
that would help us to double what the
existing condition was I think at 7:00
when we first started and that should
help the whole city because then it
won't be the inside would be working
much better because of all those options
and so then it would help the on the
outer as well and I know we're updating
concurrency next year so we'll get to
see how we're doing I hope to see if
we're any closer to that 17% we're
basing our goals for the city in the way
of transport
our amendments are everything that we
write is based on getting more
bike-friendly
getting more walkability and I'm looking
at 17% and I'm not seeing a huge
reduction in traffic and I'm looking at
all of the improvements and the ways to
work with all the businesses to get
transportation better in the city how
are we doing you know that's great but
we still have this flow through that is
causing all our problems so you know
it's kind of hard if what we've got to
do something on both both sides you know
you're going to put all this new
construction into the city like that new
complex that's going on behind Safeway
which is you know it's going to affect
the traffic in the city that it has to
you can live work and play in the city
but 99% of the people are working
outside and that traffic is still going
to be going in and out so right and I
threw and part of that I'd answer with
the concurrency update oh let us know
I'm hoping how we're doing you know it's
sort of like another snapshot of time
how we're doing since the last time we
updated concurrency in 2015 I think we
adopted in January and also there's the
transportation Advisory Board that's
getting put together as we speak they
just finished their interviews for that
and they're going to be going through a
year or two of putting together the
master mobility plan which is going to
have all the different parts
it'll have transit non-motorized it'll
start looking I would imagine at st3
once they get further along but they're
also going to look closer at the city's
transportation issues because that keeps
coming up of course as the city's
biggest problem biggest challenge I
should say and so they're going to be
looking at different ways that we can
help the flow-through and that internal
and
all of that kind of thing and hopefully
we'll be updating you as we move through
that process so that you're aware of
what what the transportation group is
doing I hope they're good at their jobs
Kristen was in all the interviews of
this card and she said our - yeah he
said the people are just super good that
they interviewed so she's pretty excited
about the new Commission so is there
anything else no not for me
very often I had a question on page 28
and specifically regarding our climate
change and we have projections for
reducing citywide greenhouse gases yeah
I was curious if we're on track for that
25 percent by 2020 right now I know that
this isn't an official update but when I
saw that I was curious if we're if we're
still obviously we're intending to meet
those targets as we've kept them as our
policy but you know with this thing I
would have to ask David Fujimoto and our
office of sustainability because you're
right that would be that would be coming
up in two years I was just kind of
curious you know with that first
benchmark how close we are to hitting it
and to give a gauge of how how good we
are on track with those numbers that's a
good question
my other question was on page 25
regarding our tree canopy I seem to
recall next year while ago a there was a
suggestion from the public about a
catalog of our trees and and actually
you know of that tree retention and
being able to actually monitor you know
if if our if our green necklace is one
of our treasures that's also made up of
our you know obviously our tree canopy
and with using current satellite imagery
drone technology being able to actually
map and know what is our trees and if
we're losing them and if there had been
any traction on making a policy right
that right in the park strategic plan
one of their work items for next year is
to redo you know and analyze again the
city's tree canopy see where we are on
our goal see if we're doing better or
for the same are not so great and then
on the docket for next year is once we
get the report from the parks department
and their work on the tree canopy then
we would update our tree canopy policies
and goals in the comp plan once we see
the new data on how we're doing because
maybe we're doing great and you know we
need to maintain and keep going or maybe
not so great and then we need to think
of new things to do but yeah that's
great that's been found that people have
been wanting to update that for a while
right thank you
well is there any other concerns
questions about in front of you the big
packet you guys did a lot of work will
really appreciate it it's uh you know we
see the nitty-gritty throughout the year
and it shows in something like this so
thank you I have a great team I think
it's hard to understand how difficult it
is to pull all these pieces together and
get the right wording based on what the
city what the county what the state all
wants to put together and sometimes I
think we have a tendency not to
understand that and want specifics that
really can't be put in there the way
that we want so I think it you know it
looks really good oh good with that I
need a motion to approve
digital did you want to open the public
hearing
okay I will open up the public hearing
at 7:29 is there anybody that would like
to make any comment is there anybody
that would like to make a comment
needing to do it three times is there
anybody else that would like to make any
public comment hearing none I will close
the public hearing at seven twenty nine
and a half perfect Lindsey how do you
want a word it kind of sounds like we
want to add a writer to approval right
now of
rhe coming back to the water plan Oh No
so basically we're asking too weird
because I think right now we're wanting
to adopt to pass along an adopt this
document as is with the condition that
the water plan come back to us
yes shear once once it's actually been
fully gone through I don't know if I
cancel I wouldn't like to make that the
same motion I mean if you want to make
another motion I'd like to keep it
separate yeah so that would mean voting
on it as is rather than as we had
discussed well you could I mean could I
mean it just to me it doesn't seem like
it's part it should be part of a motion
to pass this on okay how do you what do
you want you can have it you can have
another request to the City Council you
can present it any way you want I guess
you can draft a letter you can make it
part of it too is carrying back Trish
you guys are gonna do a little bit of
investigation as far as what is mandated
by the state and what we're able to do
as far as amending it once it's been
submitted
yeah amending our policies so I mean I
would also be fine with I think you hear
our ask and I think that Lindsay and I
have communicated yeah and you
understand what's going on so if you
would like it so that's kind of what I'm
wondering too is if you would rather
have that be a point that you're like we
know what you want and we will figure
out how to get it back to you when and
how it's appropriate versus us reading a
condition like we did with the parks
document right I think how whatever
venue whatever way you want to convey it
I think we know what you want well you
know however you want to convey it
officially would be fine I think
understanding that they remember what
they asked for I'm a fully aware of that
okay with that I'd like somebody like to
make a motion to incorrect I would make
a motion to accept the amendments to the
Issaquah comprehensive plan central is
called sub area plan and related
amendments to the escrow municipal code
and central Isco standards very good I
read it off over there was it person
okay double second any further just to
make sure any other further questions
understanding concerns with that the
motions on the table it's been seconded
all those in favor say aye
aye opposed hearing none the motion
passes so that it will go now to the
council and then to Landon shores
correct well done
so our next meeting will be January 24th
mm-hmm
another public hearing and a public
hearing I hope that we have many more
than we had tonight to offer their
support and concerns and ideas because
that's what this is for basically it is
you get the city involved people
involved in the city to be part of the
city right
so since we are not going to have a
meeting in December I would like to take
the opportunity to wish everybody in the
city from the Planning Commission a
Merry Christmas and a very healthy happy
new year thank you so with that I'm
going to close the meeting at 7:30 or
okay thank you