Misha but you guys just proposed it well
hey looks good evening and welcome to
the September 27th meeting in the
Planning Policy Commission tonight we
are going to watch the blinking light we
are going to discuss the transportation
element of the comprehensive plan and
our senior planner Chris Kristin will
start us on a discussion this evening I
will good evening so I'm gonna cover the
transportation element and they were not
not many amendments this year so we had
proposed four we have three the first is
the update of the Transportation
Improvement Program which the Planning
Policy Commission reviewed and
recommended this year and then it was
approved by City Council so this is
simply inserting the approved document
into the plan we also had update
transportation concurrency but that
didn't happen it was an update of a
transport of the model for traffic but
not for concurrency as policy stands so
that was taken off of our list update
information regarding the commute trip
reduction act a couple of years ago the
state updated the CTR program and there
are just some small required changes
that we needed to put into our code and
lastly the st3 election was in 2016 we
had policies in there to prep us for
that but now that we've been included in
that and we will be getting light rail
we've had to update those policies as
well AJ what is transportation
concurrency mean that Trish will you
explain that as a GMA growth management
act term that says that when you're
growing the growth should help pay for
the capacity it requires and so we're
allowed to charge some sorts of impact
fees to help cities with that and one of
them is the transportation impact fee
that we calculate based on with help
from our concurrency model which shows
it's a four it's it figures out now but
it also forecasts how our intersections
and the street segments work I don't
work
so it's a model to quantify what our
transportation impact fees should be
that's a byproduct of it but it also
shows us where we should be thinking
about maybe doing capacity projects to
show up on the TI P influencers long
term they use it for many things
yeah and in just a little history lesson
when was it back in 2002 thousand 2000
we had a moratorium because of
concurrency we weren't writing right
yeah so right so we did lose it as it's
supposed to be used that you can stop
growth or slow it down if you're not
needing your concurrency goals are we
aiming to tackle that next year we're in
the midst of an update right now and we
just didn't finish it in time to put the
outcome in the plan so yeah it would be
part of next year's update yes okay so
I'm gonna fly through these unless
because they're pretty obvious so
there's the Improvement Program
Transportation Improvement Program that
you all reviewed and recommended and
council approved this is the map that
shows where the projects are and will
this will the will event flow through
the Transportation Commission the next
time my guess is that yes it would that
would be yeah because I always this was
one that I always felt the PCC never
really PPC never really got a good
chance to provide feedback kind of just
asked in front of us but it would still
come here still come you but I never
felt like it was got much of that right
it is something that would go to the
transportation advisory board okay
hand-in-hand with like land-use it does
well it does yeah and the reason that it
comes to PPC is because there's projects
in the comp plan and land use projects
and what you all would do is make sure
that what was on the map that we said we
needed for growth was actually showing
up on that on the TI P and so for a
while when Gary used to do it we would
have him tell us he had a special list
of the comp plan projects that were
listed in our plan that met with the
growth and how it how it fit into his
plan so they're all one plan yeah so for
example we have
like three new roads and an over
crossing with i-90 that you know we're
anticipating on this growth in central
Issaquah and so those were included in
the model to see how they would or would
not help transportation concurrency it
turns out that they will help so those
are included on the tee IP right they're
not funded yeah the TA P includes a very
large amount of funding very large lists
and right but like the first seconds
it's going in now that was part of the
the growth that we need every interest
62nd by Costco oh yeah that was one of
the ones that we needed to help with the
growth there in that area yeah that goes
sort of in the side the back end at
Hawkstone not it was gonna be open by
the end of the opening yes opening soon
November I think I don't supposed to
remember December in 248 a year I'm not
sure the day everything's fully northern
fighting ok commute trip reduction act
like I said this is required 2015 or
2016 CTR updates they changed things
like they no longer you no longer call
it single occupancy vehicle it is now a
non drive alone trip so we had to train
change that and we they asked us to
include transportation management action
plans which is something we have sort of
done in the past but it's never been
very formal so we need to formalize that
and then and transportation management
action plans are when projects larger
projects come in you sit down with them
and it's sort of a contract where you
say you will do these things provide
Orica cards provide ride share provide
vans that kind of thing to your
employees to help reduce the number of
trips on the road and then we differ
made definitions for both of those so
you can see here where we just said
improve the number of non drive alone
trips same there transportation
management action plans just use those
during the development review process
you go back
including commute your production chair
vehicles that cheer vehicles comma
transit comma and bike share or those to
your vehicle's trans into bike share
examples of community yeah it should be
a comma what page is that on I see the
tip but I don't see these as I see the
i9 oh here we go okay page 11 okay which
employers do we do commuter production
with oh now we're trying to do it with
all employers okay but in prior years
its pending any employer who had 100
employees or more okay and there were
about eight of them but the the new goal
is to do with all yes video at all so
regardless longer it's no longer it's
now all trips instead of just those the
comater trip with larger employers yeah
pardon me Jason I was gonna say so it's
regardless the size of company now it is
okay yes again non driving on trips non
drive alone trips or actually we said
trips other than cars and then non
driving alone trips good okay this is
one of the definitions that we have for
transportation management action plan we
don't actually have a formal different
definition we had a draft that was done
several years ago along with something
else that was in our code so we combined
those two and made this let me to read
it and do we have team apps with major
employers wait to I think are in place
and that's all Moscow and I was I
thought it was the school that I'm not
sure we did it I know I thought it might
have been in apartment complex but I
don't remember but I - I think is what
are in place and so do we have in our
comp planning goals in terms of how many
or in which scenarios we want these it
is in the know we're working on it so
part of that we have our CTR commute
trip reduction program
it's actually an adopted ordinance that
talks about it and then once we more
we're trying to get these more
formalized and I think that'll be part
of the master mobility plan and it would
be listed there but we don't get that
specific and the comp plan okay so we
just say this is something that can't
happen but we're not we don't have any
goal like it this is what we would like
to happen this is what it is and then
we'll figure out the numbers later it's
kinda like when you say we want lower
building heights don't know what those
are yet we'll figure it out the
standards so it's the same kind of thing
and for now though for development we
have transportation demand programs
that's sort of the right a distant
cousin of this that we're trying to get
better and better so we do require when
businesses come in that they tell us you
know that they try to carpool that they
try to do or cards that they do all that
good stuff but this is like the next
generation of that and non drive alone
trips a knee commute to work a store a
home a park that does not involve one
person driving in a car it's made by
alternative modes such as bike foot bus
or carpool so why do you use why to use
the word commune
wouldn't you say any trip or work a
store at home park I'm good with that
that's a good point I think his commute
yeah I think a trip yeah Sartre saying
any trip okay then I and then I would
throw in to work a store a home a park
or another I were throwing like another
destination
do you have any thoughts cuz I couldn't
think I won no no I meant literally put
in another destination it's because I
could see something to read that and be
like well why are we just managing work
shopping and park trips right or a trip
yeah it's just for another destination
yeah okay one person driving one car
anything else on this one I think I
would switch bus to transit
because it's a form of transit though
right yes it could also mean light rail
but you wanna you want it to be more
that's of Zain use use transit to be
more to be less specific because you
could you could get lighter oh you like
shuttles yep more broader okay lastly
like I said st3 was in play
last time we wrote when we wrote these
policies and we were trying to get it
and then lo and behold we have it coming
so we updated some of these we called it
for example high-capacity transit at the
time because we didn't know if it was
going to be a bus rapid line a rapid bus
line or if it was going to be light rail
so it was just all-encompassing
high-capacity transit so we just trained
to change that we had initially put
satellite operations maintenance center
in there as a way to help encourage and
say sure we'll take it off we'll take a
maintenance center but now it's you know
are we do are we doing no longer one the
OMF
not necessarily no maintenance centers
are really large and hard to find a
location and yeah is the idea with us t3
that the sound transit light rail that
comes through there's not gonna it's not
like Bellevue where they're gonna have a
large Depot with his equality just kind
of comes in it has a stop and then it
moves along fun fact the st3 plan does
not end does not have any language
around the OMF for this line around the
way so the operations operates maintence
asila t unlike all the other extensions
this line does not have any language
around it okay and so it's in its
currently open what they'll do right and
and Bellevue got a maintenance Center I
don't know that it's likely that they'll
put one here that's just the current
plan I'll take off my Commission and put
on my Sound Transit hat the current plan
is it will be an independent line mm-hmm
and so will not enter line with the idea
being that they want to be flexible
around technology and so while might be
light rail won't necessarily be the same
breed of cars that the other lines are
moving and so it
highly likely that it'll get its own
maintenance facility which will just
look very different than we're building
now because the thought is technology
should have changed sufficiently in the
next 10 or 15 years it will that the
cars would look quite different because
the cars were running right now and the
one that we're buying right now are
based on 1990s technology okay and so
the thought was to to to have it be
distinct enough so the technology look
quite different okay
we have 22 years to decide but we're
planning now we're planning for the
place it'll it'll what its gonna look
it'll open and open in 22 years but most
of the important decisions will be made
in the next 8 to 10 I understand I don't
yeah and therefore its associated use
discuss who knows what its gonna need
yeah
this one at the time but they were also
doing the Metro long-range plan and we
were anticipating light rail and we were
we wanted to we wanted to connect better
with Sammamish now the press we didn't
know if it would be light rail or what
it was going to be in the fact it looked
a little confusing so now we're just
saying we just want to officially
efficiently connect with our neighboring
jurisdictions their employers such as
Microsoft's you know anything else that
may be up there the people who live
there
we just want a more efficient system
between those areas Kathir one
suggestion to the same train systems a
transit network I feel like it
integrated a network I think it's got
our language sure yeah that works
and then the last one the when we wrote
that the Metro connects plan was not and
played a minute mentor connects plan as
Metro his long-range plan and it hadn't
been written yet her adopted so we just
included that to update it and that's
all I have for me can I any questions or
comments yeah can I add a pata policy so
one thing that we talked at length when
we so this is this is within this so
maybe it's expanding a policy maybe one
dozen okay because one thing we talked
at length and we were talking about the
light rail station location I remember
we talked about we were talking about a
map and where we wanted to put the
representative project and we talked at
length about whether or not we wanted it
in i-90 right outside about ninety one
of thoughts from ever be in ninety was
it that would means we could leverage
the ste three project to help make I
ninety itself more permeable the idea
being that if you build the station
there will be INAT crossings associated
with and so forth is that something that
we want to add within this transit
network so I would propose that we maybe
do that next year because right now
we're coming out with a strategic plan
and if you've seen the draft strategic
plan one of it which I think the survey
is out for people to comments just gonna
know the survey is out and available for
you to comment on the draft strategic
plan and I was on the transportation
group that came up with our objectives
there and had a very long discussion
about the light rail station and we did
propose to work with Sound Transit to
identify a transit stop a transit
location so I would kind of wait and see
what happens there okay and then we can
put it in there Trish do you have any
other thoughts on that and because I
think it deserves a bigger conversation
than four of us putting it in and yeah
I'm having it go to council because
there's going to be some pondering on
that and the where and the how and and I
think it deserves more than just our
comp plan process I think it it's better
fits in the city strategic plan
discussion I mean no it elevates it to a
bigger discussion it does the
transportation mobility group spent
hours talking about just that
okay and then we took it to the bigger
strategic plan group and spent time
talking about it there so I think it's a
much bigger discussion so I say we wait
and see just a little bit kind of where
we're going with that and then put it in
there maybe next year and they'd
probably be on the new transportation
group would be talking about that too
wouldn't they right right
depending on what happens with the
strategic plan right yeah I don't think
we should make any reference to where we
would want it I think there's still this
discussion with Sound Transit and they
have a their ideas just like Bellevue
had back and forth so I think we need to
wait and discuss that okay all right
Trish
this part this is a really exciting part
I'm not sure if you remember from the
docket this was one that you guys pulled
up from us not doing it so this is
number 12 back in 2015 I think Joan was
probably the only one here in 2015 we
had to do the 8 year complete comp plan
update with all the elements and when we
started going through all the elements
we realized that back in the day a lot
of the implementation went in with the
policies and the goals and so it went
you know the aspirational we want to do
this we want to do that and then we
actually had projects and plans that
would get us to the goals and the policy
so in 2015 we realized we had a lot in
all the elements so we pulled them all
out and put them in this appendix and
said we're gonna get to those we can't
sort them out yet because it's 2015 and
we're updating all the elements so we'll
come back to those and figure them all
out well today was the day so we
unearthed them all and went wow that is
a lot of stuff in this in this appendix
and so we because you guys were so
brilliant when you did Old Town and you
had the three specific time frames so we
structured it like that and so we we
made the little charts we talked to all
the departments to ask them if they
remembered all these implementation
plans and projects that were listed in
the appendix and most of them they
recognized some of them they did not and
then they told us what date did they do
the original or whatever the most
current one was and then the anticipated
update so that's how they're listed in
the table is what's the most current one
of whatever it is and then when is the
update and the the piece I want to
stress that we stressed when we first
adopted this is an appendix is there's
no requirement to fund these council is
not
and because they're listed here to put
them in the budget on any given time
it's just used as a tool to remind them
of all the projects and programs that
they wanted to do at one time or the
ones that are out there that are maybe
in need of an update there's no funding
requirement because they're in here okay
I wanted to just stress that that we're
not telling the council what to do by
putting them in here and putting when we
anticipate they'd be updated so that's
the background and then I just through
the charts and their most of them are to
be updated in the next couple of years
from 2019 to 2020 a lot of them are
gonna be pretty exciting Kristin talked
about number seven the mobility master
plan I know you all had talked about
that the tree canopy study we're going
to update that again next year with the
street parks strategic plan that was
listed there we're gonna have a
comprehensive wayfinding plan we've been
talking about that for a long time and
that's supposed to be on tap for next
year
the Historic Landmarks that's gonna be a
fun one I'm so that's the first I think
there's a couple charts of the different
ones we don't currently have landmarks
we did we have we don't have we have an
inventory of all the ones that could be
but we only have actually landmarked a
handful of them four four four it's an
example of like a landmark Hickory Creek
Farm is a national landmark not not a
local landmark but Gillman Town Hall is
local Depot is local the Shell station
is local and then the Qunari house was
designated by mark Miller's oh wait gum
in a Gillman Town Hall is not yet
they're about to nominate it right so I
think I'm curious about what's promote
mean then that we're trying to establish
some is landmark so we're just trying to
take our existing landmarks and so many
better potentially could be but no one a
lot of folks don't even realize that if
they own a property that could that
there's even a mechanism that you could
do that and so I think we would be more
letting folks know what the program
would be for them to land market
then what things they couldn't couldn't
do with it and just to maybe be more
proactive on all the historic buildings
that we do have right and several years
ago as for part of confluence park I
wasn't here for the very beginning of it
but we wound up taking down an Anderson
house which the Army Corps felt like it
was a could have been a landmark
building and we wound up taking it down
so as mitigation we gave the state
funding to be used for historic
preservation projects and they've done a
grant but they just went through their
first grant cycle and you know they have
like two hundred thousand dollars to use
and I think only ninety three thousand
was used so they still have money so
they would like to potentially use some
of that funding to go out and talk to
these property owners who are on the
historic resources inventory and just
educate them about land marking okay I
think that's great but I don't I don't
like churches promoting historic land
landmarks is clear right that's how it
was listed in the appendix so and we
don't want as well we don't have we
don't really know what its gonna be so
we just sort of left it there as a
placeholder that something supposed to
happen on that but yeah we agree there
were some wordings that we were like
well we don't want to just say something
something glamorous we could I might not
get very far but what's what's the
process for moving them from the
appendix into more actionable sections
well because their implementation we
didn't want to put them back in the comp
plan because the comp plans supposed to
be goals and policies but if they like a
lot of these actually live on their own
as a document but this is sort of
keeping track of what's the most current
and when are they going to be updated so
the fact that they're in an appendix
doesn't mean they're any less alive than
than being out in the world like the
water planned the sewer plan those exist
but we're just keeping track of sort of
when the newest one is and when they
would be redone and back in 2015 when we
were I think Chris mentioned it but when
we were going through the comple and the
council felt like a lot of these were
too actionable to be listed as policies
in the comp plan so that's why they were
pulled out
these are considered somewhat actionable
is that this committees job to see which
ones are valuable to pull out and make
more actionable or there there might be
ones that when you see the new and
update in the Far column if you think it
should be updated sooner than not that
again we can't fund it or not fund it
based on our group but you may think
that something may need to go sooner
than something else if there's something
in a later years oh this is still the
first the first set if you thought for
example that the old town sub area plan
should be updated sooner than five years
I mean that's number three the historic
preservation plan here you go AJ we're
supposed to do an all new one in 2022
because we don't have one so that's if
that's something that you think should
go sooner you can certainly recommend
that but that doesn't necessarily get it
any any new font anymore finding sooner
no so what kind of feedback are you
looking for on this particular section
do you want us to kind of review the
timing and give you feedback we do want
to when we gave you this for Old Town
you moved a lot of things around you
wanted a lot of things sooner and not so
many things later so it's not exactly
the same format because a lot of these
we don't have any like as much as I love
the Emergency Management Plan there's
nothing I can do to make it go faster or
slower but we've listed it in there
because it was listed in the in the plan
and it it will get updated in 2021 but
certainly if there's pieces that you'd
like to alert the council that you feel
should be done sooner we can certainly
put that in the recommendation I think
it's also more to let you know all of
the different pieces and parts that the
city has available to it that are tools
to help us find our destiny through all
these different planning and project and
implementations there's so many things
out there that were
doing or were updating or were to help
us reach the future that we want I know
we had a long discussion about level of
service for various parts of the city
and I know we talked about fire and
police and you have it in here 1819 is
it coming soon because I think it's a
really important piece right we're doing
the data collection now but we're not
able to get all of the data wrapped
around the projects before the end of
the year so so they're being we're
thinking and I still haven't heard back
from the person that's helping me if
we're gonna get transportation done this
year but for Parks Fire and Police
those are bumped til the beginning of
next year to finish and then part of us
at least on the schedule we're in the
midst of them right and then Parks is
the end of next year it should be done I
understand the necessity of parks and we
all love parks but I also like fire and
policemen sound right sure that they're
right because we haven't done fire for a
while
yes 2006 or some south way or is pretty
long time to go and I know okay okay so
it doesn't sound like there's any just
to clarify my understanding so some of
it is like you said it's just itemized
being is what previously was thought was
more immediate action and then some of
it is you guys are actually waiting or
data or information or waiting for
things so it doesn't necessarily mean
that it's if it's in the short term
actions 21 to 22 doesn't necessarily
mean that it's languishing because I'll
prioritize it just means you might be
waiting for something right or it might
be on a five-year cycle or a six-year
cycle or something that would put it in
those later years like the the water
system plan on this last page they have
a 10-year cycle and they're just about
to be adopted and so that would run it
you know they would be done for a while
which then they can work on other things
but it just depends on like the parks
plan has a six year cycle so
this is just a way to keep track of when
things are coming around again so a the
last question I think I have is for the
public art program going from half
percent to one percent in 2019 has it
been talked about or is it just bad I'm
buddy decided to put it on the know that
made it into the that's 14 isn't it
yeah that's 14 in the in the immediate
okay
and she says they're actually working on
that and they hope to have it done in
2019 Oh Amy I talked to Amy on that
because it's the Arts Commission working
on this or as Amy as a government
employee working on it I I always think
it's she and the Arts Commission I
didn't ask her specifically but do you
know they don't have any control over
how much money it is so it really should
be coming from somebody else who
approves oh one percent okay and I just
assumed that they was working with King
County through the Arts Commission and
it's up to the city a to the right side
if it's gonna be one percent or a half
percent so okay Arts Commission just
spends it and makes wonderful decides
discussion freo they do she was how much
money they get right well this was the
language that she gave me and you're
right it doesn't actually say who she's
working with as the executive right cuz
Amy's out of the executive department so
that's her department so I can ask her
if you want on how she's doing that or
how it's moving through I just like to I
mean I I think that's a you know with
all the money that's spent for so many
different programs in the city I mean it
would be great if it were 1% as long as
it didn't interfere with budget for
something else that was critical
yeah it seems like a fun I like the
offending that money yeah a lot of
neat examples on where the money's gone
already that I had no idea the things
that it's funded it was a pretty cool
list I
I want some more in the electrical boxes
covered yeah those are really fun yes
there's some great ones
awesome idea from Mary Lorna yeah that
was a fun one okay anything else on I've
got to come one the st3 planning process
you guys were talking about this should
that be called it as a separate line and
if that's such a big deal or do you
think that's captured in some of the
other transportation elements because
that's kind of its own I think that's
hard see its own thing coming out of the
strategic plan right and right and the
master mobility plan and I think it's
his own animal so but since its own
animal should be its own line item on
this ability is in their numbers right
and I and I would I would still wait on
that one with a strategic plan are you
thinking though what just just to
acknowledge that that's in a like is
that an immediate action or is that a
short-term action to establish city's
policies around specifics of st3 I went
like what's our timeline on when the
city is gonna attempt to put a stake in
the ground as we begin the conversations
with Sound Transit I'd still wait on the
strategic plan yeah the way you've just
phrased it though it doesn't seem to
back us into a corner though if like
yeah and I was trying to vacuum or 19 to
turn earlier
that comes around just say add something
but and they may take it out at Council
because they might think we're putting
it hurt before the horse but you know
why do you think if I'd be okay adding
up if the point of these pages is just
for everyone and say hey these are all
the balls that are in the air or will be
in the air this couple years I just
thought that that's an extra write all
in the air that just to keep track of
like I'm certain staff won't forget
about it but more for the more for the
public
they just keep it on there as an extra
line right and what was your language on
it again did you write it down or did
you just say it I just had it update
policies regarding sound transit light
rail or something or do your around
around around st3 okay
and the other one was I remember we
talked a lot at the remove on what date
are we thinking about for that these all
have dates right is that in media I
didn't know well I think that's what
that's what I was curious is that an
immediate action a short-term action
last for what do you think it's not an
immediate you wouldn't want it by 2020
to nowhere 2020 I think I think the city
means to have staked out an initial
position like right so you have a
starting point so that you can then
begin the work when st actually brings
on consultants starts actually looking
at it because that still years away but
the city kind of needs to have put some
thought into that it's like right I
thought and so I think I think that's
immediate 2020 I mean I guess 2019 seems
too quick but if it media action
includes end of 2020 hype I think so you
know you can always anticipated 2020 but
things get changed as things get updated
well if it's in brain you know that
moves sort of concurrently with the
mobility master plan so those two could
work together yeah yeah so I would think
it would either be aligned with element
7 or you would just add or you can add
language to element 7 right just
acknowledges that st 3 is probably the
most important new thing to the mobility
master plan right so Jeff and I'll
certainly be a game changer whatever it
ends up right because if we done if you
dust off previous transportation plans
SC 300 past right but that's the biggest
new thing right right so you can just
add including sp3 on there and you would
be happy yeah
similar to make a reference to it that's
yeah kind of similar to I think element
2 in the long term like there's the
deliverable and then it kind of talks
about some specific things oh right
either that or element 9 on the
immediate either of those kind of work
something like that okay you know in
particular such as or something like
that I think it just adds to the
equation that that Issaquah actually is
working on it and when it wants it to
come and and great you know found
transit can say yes there you know they
want to work with us they want right
they want some to start planning right
that was good it's at the same time I
think we're expecting to see other
transition plans before st3 is arise in
20 years right right
will be a whole lot more connected to
committee I'm hoping I think we have a
long list of things that we want to get
done it's just always a problem there's
no money to do them right
sadly that's true okay so that's all of
them I had I had one others so one thing
we talked about around the the CIP a lot
the sense of scope laying was view
corridors and how there was a lot of
language referencing preserving view
corridors but no specificity about what
a view quarter actually is is that
something that would be captured I don't
know if that gets covered under the
parks strategic plan or that's an extra
action item this would be this would
certainly be in the longer term actions
but right and we did we changed the
language in the development standards on
how to measure if your building is
blocking a view corridor we did we did
because we said it had to be a public a
public viewing place it wasn't that you
could protect from all the private homes
in the private areas it was just
protecting those views that are from a
public right-of-way but did that but we
never specified which views were
protected I'll check on that but I
thought because we had to do that whole
amendment when I thought it was part of
the Costco
discussion no I don't I mean I don't I
don't think so I think we had we
certainly spent a lot of time eating the
language right about
how to protect few corridors and what we
meant by that but we never see never
specified which views were protected
okay is it just a matter just a view of
Mount Rainier that's protected is it it
is the views of all the Alps like I
don't I know I'm a forested hillsides
from pub it has to be from public
vantage places like from a public park
from a public street but not from like
your house right what we did we did
specify that the protected view is of
the forested hillsides that's that
that's the that's the I don't remember
that making it in I just remember it was
so involved yet I see I see my our the
research is going on over there but your
backup is uh so I will write that down
because if if it's there great and I'm
sorry if I missed it but if it's not I
thought that was another element that I
think still needs to be filled in we
need to have a public process to
identify which views are the ones who
want to protect I would assume that it
goes in with the parks plan but it's
more of a I know that's what that's what
I was trying to think do you add that to
under the parks strategic plan there's
some other stuff and something that we
quoted I don't know if the section would
be in regulations because it B so you
don't build your building too high
yeah something but you trained up your
that's one of the first components we
did preserve to the extent possible
while achieving other city goals
existing views of the Issaquah Alps
Mount Rainier in the Sammamish plateau
from public spaces including circulation
Philly facilities parks and open space
using methods such as increasing
distances between high-rise buildings
retaining or creating peak orders and
strategic placement of building bulk or
height it was that first part I don't
remember that all right I can send it to
you tomorrow where that is
I guess it's landing its land use policy
h9 no oh it's not in the code
no it's in the comp plan that's the copy
in the language okay yeah
doesn't seem to be in the code does it
need to be in the code I think it's in
central I think that's one of the first
amend that was one that was where my
ruble was whether it was actually made
it into the code okay I will check
though but I remember with mell that
that was one of the first amendments we
had to do oh really okay so those are
the two from AJ any others okay
oh here's the last ones so next step so
you guys have a busy fall coming up next
meeting October 11th you're going to
have a public hearing on a code
amendment and that's going to be compact
municipal buildings like a new City Hall
a new fire station would have to be do
you remember those of you that were here
in 2017 we did compact schools a small
footprint idea we'll remember we tried
to have city halls in that amendment and
you guys took it out so we're coming
back again to see if we can get through
this time and so that all of our new
buildings city halls and fire stations
and that kind of stuff would have to be
compact so that's coming to you on
October 11th and if we have any extra
time we can do more review of this but
it seems that the complan stuff is
pretty much all done the only thing
we're still trying to work on with the
school district is if they will come
talk to us about that great conversation
we had last week about urban schools and
compact schools and all the good things
about schools so the person we're trying
to meet with Steve Crawford is out of
the office so we're hoping to talk to
him next week to invite him to the 25th
has the district been receptive that yet
or are you still just trying to when we
did the compact schools last year and so
this is the whole policy piece that we
shared with you all last time and the
definitions and so you all had asked if
they would actually come and and visit
with us and so we had sent it to them we
hadn't gotten comments back and so we
sent it again said you all wanted to
meet and so we're gonna try and meet
with him first and you know see what
ideas and thoughts he has
and hopefully he'll be happy to come
here on the 25th the 8th of November a
great doubleheader for you guys the
Development Commission is going to be
here with you guys love those guys and
gals and that you're gonna be looking at
the Gilman Boulevard corridor concept
presentation and Kristen will be part of
that she's on that team and the
development Commission's being invited
as well to hear it with you and that
same night we're hoping while we have
the Development Commission here we're
gonna do try and do a code amendment
that changes the level of level 3 review
that goes to the Development Commission
to add some more criteria on what
projects would go to them so we thought
why not have that discussion when
they're actually here to tell you yeah
or nay it makes sense er it doesn't make
sense so we thought that was a brilliant
use of having the Development Commission
here with you all because they're just
great well you guys haven't met together
for a while so this will be a lot of fun
so then the 15th of November is the
public hearing on the comp plan so what
we'll do is all the comp plan amendments
that you've reviewed already land use
transportation the appendix that we just
did will will make all your changes put
them in the public hearing package and
then we send it out to you for the 15th
and hopefully you'll be comfortable
enough to forward that to the council
with your recommendation that would be
great and then in December who knows
what we could do in December we could do
more code amendments we could start on
all new things it's just really exciting
we did we just don't even know what we
would do in December if we were done
with the comp plan any questions or
thoughts
another thing is I sent you an email
right before I came here and this
because you all helped with a strategic
plan sort of laying the baseline for
what was important and we had the flip
charts remember and we had someone in
the audience was helping us with our
with our great conversation well that's
sort of in its first layer of baking and
they're sending a survey out to all of
you that worked on it to see what you
think about how far it's come and does
it make sense still and
so I've sent that out to you and I think
the survey is open for maybe til the 8th
of October so it's like a little over a
week and that would be great if you guys
could could could fill out the survey
and keep keep your input in there
because you guys are all the good wise
people of the city anything else for the
good of the order Oh Old Town and the
table of permitted uses is going one
more time we hope to land in Shore
next week and so we're hoping that
they'd be done with both of those and
then they would be going back to council
for action by the end of October so
that's another two big projects you guys
work done yes ma'am yes both mam's so
Emily did find language on views and
vistas it's in the standard centralist
quest and row it is it's not in the land
it's not in the ladies code it is in the
standards so memory is there but the
standards are enforceable because the
CIP okay yes but I will still send that
to you tomorrow yes because I knew that
I could not have dreamt that I should I
should never doubt you Trish should
often trust yet verify I think we're the
famous words
all right thanks Emily super anything
else for the good of the order that's
coming we're gonna look at the agenda I
think the Commission felt pretty
strongly that the compact at urban
school should be a conversation with the
school district is a key stakeholder so
if the 25th doesn't work I would just
throw out being a little bit flexible
with the if they say if we need to grab
one of the other slots for that sir so
sure hopefully does but if they want if
they want to come but the 25th doesn't
work I would say encourage us to try to
be a little bit flexible thorough
schedule right to ensure that we can
have that conversation right with them
and be productive and that's why we
bumped the public hearing all the way in
November in case we needed to move
something around but yeah because we
think it's better if everybody's at the
table for that anything else thank you
all for being here and being our quorum
what ratio should membership mean on the
call to order oh that's always there
just to show so that we take attendance
and if you look at the next page it
shows
all of you guys and go that's
just--that's address it's just
connecting it okay seeing no other
comments you sure close the meeting at
7:16 nicely
you