so good evening and welcome to the
August 24th meeting of the Planning
Policy Commission first on our agenda is
approval of the minutes from July the
13th is there any discussion changes on
the minutes I motion make a motion to
approve the minutes all those in favor I
have a second second all those in favor
aye
most though tonight we're doing a public
hearing on the proposed housing strategy
for the city of Issaquah I know that the
city has been meeting with a lot of
groups over the last months to determine
where the city should go and how to
provide housing for all of the various
groups that need housing in Issaquah so
fish take it away and give us an update
of what we're seeing and what the city
is looking at for the housing strategy
okay tonight we're gonna remind you all
of the purpose of the Housing Strategy
and the process on how we got here which
you all know a lot about that since
you've been part of it since the
beginning we're going to talk about the
mission and problem statements that the
Joint Commission's came up with as well
as the nine strategies that that we all
came up with we're going to unpack one
of the strategies so you can see how
they're sort of how they fall together
or and then talk about the next steps
and then open it up to public comment
and then whatever you want to discuss or
talk about or whatever we can do that if
that's okay with you after you've heard
from the public and then we can see how
far we can get tonight the council would
love to have this if they would love for
you to recommend it tonight if that's
possible this is one of the moratorium
items that we're hoping to get done plus
some implementation before the end of
the year so I would just start out by by
letting you know that that's that's what
we're hoping for but it's totally up to
you
the purpose as it says in the strategy
is that this is connected to the
comprehensive plan in that it's an
action plan for the coming five years
hopefully we'll have all of it
implement well have all of it started in
two years so that by the end of the five
years we'll be able to actually monitor
to see if things have been built if
things have changed if we've moved the
needle at all so it's a it's a very
fine-tuned action plan and perhaps at
the end of five years we'll we'll pick
nine different strategies because they
all worked really well or maybe we throw
out five of them and keep four so it's
sort of a this is what we want to do in
this intense period and then we're going
to monitor it to see how how we did and
again it's part of the comp plan it
talks a lot about the same things that
are policy based in the comp plan so
they they they're connected that way and
I love this picture this is a local
picture of habitat of them of us working
on habitat in the area and Sammamish the
process you've seen this before and
you've been involved in it we actually
started the housing strategy before the
moratorium and that was we had our first
deliverable if you will on the existing
conditions in the future the same
September that the moratorium was
established then we started the next
session the next step we worked with you
all and the economic development
commission and the Human Services
Commission as what we called the Joint
Commission and you all worked very hard
five different meetings on some really
tough tough pieces of policy and values
and you guys were all very great there
were some tough issues and all three
Commission's are built a little
different and focused a little different
so it was sort of a nice little sliver
of the community all in here trying to
figure out which way we should go for
the future the third part based on all
the the vision and the values and the
problem statements you came up with we
figured out how do we with all that
knowledge how do we launch into the next
five years to try to change the way our
housing
or get different kinds of housing for
diversity and ages and special needs so
that's what the third part is and now
we're we have a draft of a strategy plan
and then in January we're hoping to
actually launch into the implementation
pieces the first piece this was based
from the September when the consultant
helped us find out a lot of data
percentages of all these kinds of things
and it was a very analytical look at
what our existing housing is like and so
these are some of the observations that
we've learned that September these are
in the strategy and the other part that
I found more rewarding not being
analytical by nature is the focus groups
the Joint Committee and the survey
results and what's all the values and
the stories and the personal accounts
I found these fascinating and these are
also in the housing strategy but they're
two very different places we went for
our outreach the data pieces and right
out to the focus groups and the people
that really sort of are in the weeds on
things and really know how things are
happening or not happening so very two
very different ways of getting
information for us for the Housing
Strategy the vision that we came up with
we shared this and this isn't the
complan vision it's not the housing
element vision it's not the central plan
housing vision this is what we came up
with is the because there's so many
visions right we all have that this is
the implementation vision this is how we
get out of the gate and actually have
things happen and we had run the
original vision that sort of came
through the Joint Commission to the
council informally at their July meeting
and they thought it needed some oomph so
we went back through all the Joint
Commission discussions and things that
people said and and some of the some of
the debates and we thought we
even a lot more oomph so you'll have to
let us know if you think it's only
enough it's it's more it has more open
details than the original one by the
Joint Commission but counsel seemed
adamant that they really wanted it to
really really land a punch so this is
what we came up with the three problem
statements stayed the same because those
I think are perfect I might be biased
but I thought you all came up with I
thought you'd nailed it
and these are of course in the strategy
and these are where the the strategies
come from and these are the nine and
these again it took I think three
different meetings of the Joint
Commission to sort of get through them
fine-tune and they have been rewarded
and kind of because again we went in
July to Council and because they weren't
involved they had they didn't always
understand as clearly as we understood
that helped build them what they meant
so we did some fine-tuning after we
informally shared it with council in
July did you yes are these ordered in
any particular way oh good question
these are just how they came out of the
gate and just to unpack in in the
strategy in the housing strategy and now
they each are on a single page because
it was confusing to have some more than
one on a page we've heard that from
several individuals that it would be
better to be clear than to save a few
pages of paper but this is how they were
organized the strategy first stating
what it is that we want to do that we're
trying to achieve and then in the middle
there a description of why what the
history is why do we think it might be a
problem why do we think it could be a
solution sort of what's involved and
then some of the policy issues or
considerations that we'll need to go
through before we can actually come with
an implementation you know for a to use
should they be citywide should they not
be
should they still be considered not a
duplex but just as an accessory housing
unit not a full-blown duplex these are
things we haven't discussed yet we
haven't figured out yet but we know we
have to before we bring it back as a set
of code amendments but we wanted to try
and sort of throw out all the things
that we'd have to think about and
counsel will have to think about before
we could make the strategy come true
sort of so they know what their work
plan is that it's not like Oh next week
you're going to come before us with this
well no it's going to take a little bit
of research and figuring out to answer
the questions so then just to clarify
maybe for an understanding so what we're
recommending today and then what counsel
hopefully approved next time is that
they will say yes removing barriers to a
to use is something we want to do yes
and then there will still be the
additional process to figure out what
does that mean how do we do it and then
to go do it right that's what we're
hoping that would happen in that first
two years of the strategy as these would
all come up and be in some sort of a
solution whether it's a code amendment
something a program something so that we
can start monitoring how well we do
right and that will those discussions
will come through us right right right
oh quick question for as far as the
Polly issues policy issues I like the
way this document is written right now
is there a specific reason why those are
addressed as questions they another good
question they were when we first went to
Council we wanted them to know how big
some of these are and things that
they're going to have to consider before
they take action and when we when those
of you that worked on these saw them
you're not the first one that says why
are they in a question so we've sort of
rewritten them now that the council has
seen them informally to actually have
them as statements that that we should
consider this this and this we should
consider if they're all the
neighborhood's are just a few
neighborhoods instead of asking them as
a question because it's confusing
you're right it's confusing why won't we
given that draft isn't it just happened
three days ago okay
do did you find when you were going
through
I loved this seeing this document and
it's more of what I expected at our
first work session from the city and so
I'm curious if you could speak to a
little bit about how the city came to
these did you find that this was
drastically different from what you
thought when we started this this whole
project it was heavily influenced by me
I didn't have these these policy issues
the questions that we have in front of
us or were these things that the city
kind of knew was the guiding way how how
has this evolved is what I'm questioning
is how how has the city really evolved
this as we've gone through with public
comment and through the Commission's
well I'd say out of the nine that we
ended up with I mean there were 50 at
least that we that were on the table
before we narrowed it to nine because
there's so many that we're doing already
I didn't really know which we'd end up
with I knew probably three that we would
maybe four but the others I just sort of
came organically from talking to people
in which one sort of rose to the the
priority with the joint group and
through the surveys that we knew that we
needed to plug in some pieces so I don't
know if I was surprised I was pleased at
how much input we got from the focus
groups and from the survey that maybe
showed a different picture than some
people are used to seeing with us across
I was real happy with an example of the
difference between like you know should
the city consider ways to cooperate with
other cities versus like the statement
is that is basically are all questions
really in the affirmative how do we kind
of know which way that the staff has
gone with saying no we're not going to
work with others well we know for a fact
that and this is how we share it with
council that this ad use has come up as
a solution with other cities and so we
thought doesn't it make sense that we
would work with other cities we didn't
want to just assume that they would but
we thought that they would and so yes
sure Arthur from Earth
so I think you've asked I'm Arthur
Sullivan program manager of Archer could
you say your name in case them Arthur
Sullivan program manager of arch and
I've been assisting you and the joint
commissions and the staff your first
question is where did we come up with
these little policy issues I think is
was your first question and that was
sort of the result of a the experience
of working on these issues in the past
both city staff and our staff and we're
extension of your city staff listening
to the committee looking at the notes
from the Commission conversations and
listening to conversations from the
focus groups etc so we took all that
information and that helped us sort of
put these out there and what why we
shaped them as questions to start with
is when we went to council we wanted to
find out these are meant to help frame
the work as we go into each of the
strategies and they're meant to give a
little bit of guidance so that we know
what sort of the parameters the broad
parameters are that might be used as we
go into more detail on each of the
strategies so we went to council
originally we posed them as questions
and they had that meeting like say very
recently and we're now in the process
and it's sort of the same to you you can
still play around with these a little
bit what we're trying to do is after
these two conversations between Council
and the Commission is turn them into
statements based on your input okay and
we have had the council input and
there's some changing but not any
significant changes from the list that
you have in front of you based on some
of their input but for the most part
they seem to feel like we were in the
right ballpark with the policy guidance
thank you so is the idea that these
questions are all answered now no I wish
okay
because I like that there's still still
set as questions because I feel like the
act of answering this questions is the
process we're about ready to embark upon
right next year at two by no means of
these questions but ends these questions
have been identified and flushed out
right but by no means of these questions
been answered that's what we're gonna go
and try to tackle in the next year or
two
right
and the answers may surprise us they may
give us more questions which often
happens but at least this was sort of
the first way we thought of attacking
because these are you know they're hewed
the strategies some of them are huge so
it was sort of how do you start chipping
away at the pieces that we can because
it may turn out to lead into you know
tiny houses and backyards it may lead
into I mean it could lead into a lot of
things that right today for sure I've
been thinking about I just want to make
sure that when from a documentation is
ten point is these questions if you
convert these questions into statements
it's still clear that the particular
position the statement is taken is a
potential policy not right
and we call them policy considerations
because that seemed everyone still right
clear that say these are all proposed as
opposed to something that weren't we're
in Doren we're in endorsing the strategy
but not necessarily endorsing the
policies we're using what you guys have
created as our as our as our starting
board right to dive into it okay right
the actions that are also at the very
end talks about the timeline that as
staff we would figure out at least a
timeline and implementation for all of
them by April of next year that doesn't
mean they'll all be done but will at
least know with a nine how they all fit
into the two years for example two of
them one of them is going on now with a
transit-oriented development we're
working on that one now which is good
because that's one of the nine and the
other one that counsels asked us to
bring forward is I think it's number six
inclusionary zoning in central Issaquah
so that's one that they're hoping to
have done with your help of course it
has to go through you before the end of
the year when that moratorium is lifted
so those would be two that would be
hopefully on their way by the end of
this year which would make only nine
eight seven to do in the next two years
so we would just be really really
hitting it so we'd also figure out sort
of let the council know
that time what information do we need to
find what are we needing what's hard to
find what what new wrinkles have we
figured out that's sort of what number
two says is if there's other things that
we need to talk with a council committee
it would I think it would be services
and safety that would help us figure it
out and then we do the code revisions in
the next two years that you would help
with hello and then we would monitor the
strategies to see if how they're moving
the needle or if there's things that we
need to do or if some things aren't
working as well or if some things are
going gangbusters and we want to you
know put more resources we would start
monitoring that but at the end of next
year and then in 2022 we would revisit
the whole strategy again and see do we
stick with a nine are there ten more
that we want to try are there for we
want to get rid of you know that we
would revisit it and figure that out
depending on our success - number one
what does this look like on a commission
level and with public involvement for
developing and implementing these plans
is there any our will any more Joint
Commission's be had there will be any
more public input is this only happening
at city staff level I can you talk a
little more about one about that
development okay I think that just the
timeline would be figured out by staff
meaning that for example inclusionary
zoning we want to have done by the end
of the year we don't know what is all
involved in that yet we've thought about
how we could draft it
what kind of math needs to go into it to
see how how much you can require
something like that is kind of number
based we'll probably go out and talk to
developers on penciling out and that
kind of thing maybe the ATU one would be
next year and maybe that would take some
neighborhood discussion I think we would
try to put those into the timeline
before the timelines are figured out but
I think they would all take different
amounts of outreach and input and
depending on you know depending on the
strategy but I would imagine we would
need more input and more like not number
nine is for disabled and seniors and
special needs on a
sure we'll go back to the focus groups
and ask for help on that one just
because they provided so much good
information on the strategy itself we're
looking at this kind of two-year time
frame of really getting ramped up how
has there been any comments from Council
or any talk on city staff about
extension of the moratorium or no that's
done at the December yeah they made that
decision so how does that impact how we
are able to well impact really how does
that how are we able to when we're don't
really have these strategies in place
how does that really help us to move
forward to achieve our goals well we
would hope that if it works that
inclusionary zoning could be adopted by
the end of the year and the transit
oriented development will be on its way
it won't be done by the end of the year
but that would be - that would be in you
know in progress before it was lifted at
the end of December and then the other
ones we would just have to prioritize
you know which ones do we think we could
get done first but certainly permits
would be you know developers could be
coming in for permits in January sure
we've talked before about resources for
city staff and how we have to prioritize
based on what the city has how does that
impact kind of how we're able to move
through these timelines as far as I know
we've asked for we've talked about if
there's a need for more resources or how
we would get through it and we haven't
budget sessioning you know budget hasn't
started yet for the next year but there
certainly is a lot on our plate already
even just from the moratorium pieces
coming over and needing to be tidied up
in the code but we haven't had that
discussion yet although of course
everyone knows there's a lot still going
on even after the moratorium is lifted
thank you
wanted you all to know you probably
already noticed that but for the public
to know that in the appendix we put the
complan vision and goals that relate to
housing we thought about putting the
whole housing element in there but
didn't know if that was over the top
although it's a fabulous element we also
have the table in the housing in the
land-use element that talks about the
housing target and has the most recent
count towards the 2030 one adopted state
target so that's in there and see is the
affordable housing report card back from
2015 so we've been working on housing
and affordable housing for quite a while
it's just a really tough nut to crack I
think everyone in the region is
struggling with it
but I wanted that to be in there just
sort of as another baseline of all the
work that has gone on already and that
we've already been involved in and that
we're still trying to be creative and
try new things and try to do the old
things in a different way and so that's
why those are all included they're the
next steps for the fresh just I'm just
curious I'm the I'm the appendix that as
the the housing units do you guys have
anything in terms of new units that are
in the pipeline yes I was just curious
is that is that in here is that I know
that wouldn't be a comprehensive plan
okay because it's can you it's can you a
ballpark about how many do we have
because I'm like because I'm looking at
how many we have 2,300 to meet the
target how much of that is covered by
our current pipeline there's a
completely governs in your strategy 13
yes you got there before I did and
there's a little line way over on the
right-hand to the dotted line it's the
line that says 2021 or 2022 housing
target reached so that housing target is
the 2035 target 31 2013 one target okay
and it looks like we would meet it I
sort of put the line sort of in a
because even though they're in the
pipeline you never know when there's
some may not this was sort of the guess
as to how we're growing how we have
grown and sort of the the forecast if we
if we're still going at 8% what that
would be okay all right
thank you I was curious off of that
Trish I don't know if you're able to
speak to specifically that those units
needed to meet our target if you
anticipated those looking at basically
where we are right now is two patches of
open land and usable land if you foresee
those units being mostly in urban
villages or if they're going to be in
central Issaquah we would hope that
they'd be in central Issaquah the lion's
share of them the villages are pretty
well spoken for with their entitlement
and so we've always hoped that the
lion's share would go in central
Issaquah thank you the next steps for
the Housing Strategy which is the piece
before you tonight would be the public
hearing tonight listening to comments
discussing and deliberating and if you
feel comfortable moving it forward to
Council and then they would have their
action in September and October and then
your first implementation piece could be
coming as early as October 26th for a
public hearing and that would be the
requirement right now that the urban
core of central Issaquah already
requires affordable housing and this
would be modifying that a little bit
we don't know completely what the draft
is yet because we've been doing the
strategy and that would let council be
able to that would allow them perhaps to
take action on that in December so
they're sort of I wanted to sort of give
you a peak that if all those well we
might have some implementation by the
end of the year are there questions
before we open it up to the public I'm
sorry the inclusionary zoning which
strategy is that I believe it six
require more affordable housing
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okay so the term developed provided
correct that's then in in in theory that
the tool would be inclusionary zoning
correct and that would answer the six
point one should the city look to
increase inclusionary requirements in
central Issaquah where are you reading
then page 21 okay cuz that laying what
that language is a bit different than
the page seventeen 6.10 you're in 6.0 K
all right thank you are you ready for
the public eye I want to make a couple
comments first first of all welcome back
we haven't seen you in a month and a
half so we missed you
it's a huge undertaking that the city is
planning to do and I understand that
there aren't 50,000 people out there
working on this so it's you know I don't
like that two to five year plan but you
know things go slowly the only thing
that I'm a little concerned about is all
of this growth is supposedly in the
central area and the central area is
composed of individual ah'd of it is
individual homes there's not a lot of
land that you can just put all of this
stuff in that we all need and it would
be nice to have some kind of a vision of
well you know this is how much land we
have and this is our vision for what we
want it to look like how do we get all
this land in that particular amount of
space to me that seems like a better
idea than just say I want to implement
all these plans and of course they're
all good we all want them I mean you
have good questions but they all can't
happen there can't be enough workforce
housing for everybody
you know all of this can't happen and so
to me I would like to see some kind of a
plan for hey the central area is only so
big and as
are they full where are you going to put
all this extra stuff that we really need
so how do you make those plans the other
comment is in second strategy 3 you're
talking about affordable multifamily
projects and one of the things that you
sentence preservation as included both
preserving privately owned federally
subsidized housing that could be
converted to market rate housing I mean
I would be very disappointed if if there
was federally funded subsidized housing
for a family to go in and then live
there for two years and then be able to
get the difference between the value
that they got and now it is now at
market rate and so when you're doing
plans in there there has to be a
provision in there to limit what you can
sell it for you know based on some
something there was one area in the
highlands that forgot that and so you
know my client bought it at 300 which
was great for them but they sold it for
500 and that just doesn't seem to be
reasonable so okay so what I'm going to
do is open up the public hearing and to
hear what all of you think about the
plans and I know the first person opened
the public hearing is 705 and the first
person up to speak tonight is Randy
Banneker go to and introduce yourself
thank you miss Perla and members of the
Commission I'm Randy Banneker I'm here
on behalf of the Seattle King County
Realtors appreciate the opportunity to
to speak with you tonight
our members certainly place a high value
on the opportunity to to represent
buyers and sellers in the City of the
Issaquah and we're here because we
believe it's in our mutual interest to
ensure the quality of this community
moving forward and your work your work
on housing is very much appreciated and
extremely important ensuring an adequate
supply of quality housing relative to
demand is is both challenging and
critical to the health of Issaquah and
the greater region in the draft strategy
that staff has presented to you tonight
that you've been working on you have
identified the key issues and you're
absolutely on the right track of
tackling the questions that are going to
be relevant to to the challenges
Issaquah faces in our view that chief
focus of the city needs to be on how you
will zone to enable new housing supply
increasing housing supply and responsive
demand is the only true path to housing
affordability to family earning the
median income can't afford the median
price home a family earning less than
that or mean eighty percent or thirty
percent of that median income will have
an even tougher time affording housing
so I have ticked off I went through your
nine strategies and I just wanted to
give you a quick flavor and and comments
on those number one removing barriers to
facilitate more ad use absolutely this
is an extremely important strategy it
does a number of things chiefly it
creates affordable rental housing
workforce housing potentially in the
city
the rental stream from those eighty used
to the to the owner of the primary
residence can help buy down their
mortgage you know help make that
mortgage more affordable to them so it
is an affordability strategy there for
seniors which you talk about later
strategy ad use can be again a tool for
a little income stream and it can also
have someone on the property who's just
there and may be available to help if
that person needs some help but at some
point in time strategy two approaches to
limit and mitigate tear downs we're
concerned about that it looks good on
paper but I think in practice it's tough
to do in a way that gives flexibility
for your existing owners to keep their
home's current up-to-date and relevant
to to the marketplace a strategy 3 which
seeks out affordable multifamily
projects for retention I think that's a
great thing if the city of Issaquah is
wanting to invest in existing
multifamily projects this is a very cost
effective strategy for preservation of
what would I assume be subsidized or
income qualified units identifying
additional funding options for
affordable housing we put a qualified
YES on that with the notion that the the
provision the development the funding
for affordable housing ought to have a
wide catchment it ought to be regional
funding or citywide funding it ought not
to be a very narrow burden that's placed
on a builder or the buyer of that new
unit it's a citywide responsibility and
I think it deserves a citywide response
a tool there that you you flag is the
use of the multifamily tax exemption
program that's a great thing
keep that in mind that brings the market
market incentives into the provision of
affordable income qualified units
strategy 5 you're talking about transit
oriented development pursue this one
this is really important you're gonna
get increased transit benefits in the
city transit transit stations transit
centers is where you should be zoning
your densest
housing because again it gives people
flexibility to live to live in Issaquah
without necessarily owning a car
full-time because they can access the
transit
strategy six is increasing developer
provided affordable housing in central
Issaquah tread carefully on that the
term to me is misleading because
developer provided housing ultimately
the buyer of that housing is the payer
it's not some magic gift that's coming
from the developer and and that buyer is
then paying more for that market rate
unit making that unit more expensive as
a result of the inclusionary requirement
an added risk of an inclusionary formula
that is not done well to market could
mean that the project doesn't pencil
it's not economically feasible because
the because of the cost of the
inclusionary requirement and as a result
that project could be delayed which then
delays the production of the needed
housing units for the community you just
have to be careful and it's it's
something that Seattle Seattle has has
implemented through the hala process
various inclusionary type programs
incentives zoning things like that and
they're constantly tackling where to set
the dials on how much that that
developer should pay for those
privileges it's tough strategy eight is
o strategy seven addressing the
condominium liability issue we'd love to
work with you on that that is a huge
problem it is a problem for every
jurisdiction in well every jurisdiction
in urban King County it's a statewide
problem with the condominium act we need
to work together to address that
condominiums offer the greatest
opportunity for affordable ownership
housing for that first getting on that
first rung of Housing Strategy eight is
incorporating code revisions to increase
potential density of housing types
absolutely alternative housing types in
the city's smaller housing types again
are gonna offer some affordability that
isn't there already can be done nicely
to blend in the community
and then lastly supporting housing
options and services to enable people to
stay in their homes or neighborhood
that's that's important too it's
important to identify quantify who and
how many people need help need that
subsidy identify where those dreams of
subsidy you're going to come and and
deliver it to them but make it make it
real and understandable so I thank you
for your attention
and we would love to work with you on on
all these strategies as they play out
and ask a question yes I know you work
with the other cities Kirkland Bellevue
is is or any of those cities doing
anything that just pops out as being
unbelievably awesome in providing
housing for their constituents well I
think I think you're seeing and this
this is not in contrast to Issaquah but
you know what should the the multifamily
development the kind of development
you're seeing in Bellevue reflectable of
a little different market but Bellevue
set its sights on some some aggressive
zoning allowances some height allowances
and it took many years but those are
coming to fruition
you wouldn't I don't think you want to
be a downtown Bellevue but I think
that's a models of the zone that you set
now the zoning ideas the concepts look
out 20 years 20 years is your GMA time
frame
look out you can look out 50 years and
think about what this city wants to look
like and how it can support your
developing employment base that's going
to be important to Kirkland is a good
example of looking at how to how to
pivot off of the downtown amenities in
terms of multifamily and I'm talking
about market rate housing principally
pivoting off the the lake and the and
the downtown you've got an amazing
downtown there are probably some things
you could look at off these off these
central retail blocks thank you thank
you
anybody else like to
I'm to the micro come to the microphone
and introduce yourself please
my name is Karen Tennyson and I don't
live in Issaquah I just moved to Redmond
but I was on the Kirkland planning
commission for eight years and I've been
involved with imagined housing and the
Housing Alliance for providing
affordable housing and when I was on the
Planning Commission in Kirkland we
undertook a number of things one was a
tea use another was a small lot strategy
for old for people who'd lived in their
home for a long time but it had a huge
lot and being allowing them to subdivide
to have a smaller lot but this smaller
effe are for it and we also did a lot of
innovative housing Redmond I like
because they have inclusionary housing
and I will tell you that you cannot
incentivize affordable housing enough to
get anyone to build it a regular
developer you have to make it
inclusionary and then it happens so
thank you thank you would anybody else
like to speak Elizabeth Elizabeth no
Penn Human Services Commission one of
the things that strikes me is that as
you're doing some more research in how
to get what you need it would be really
helpful if Ithaca had a day Center for
our residents who are either homeless or
on the edge this would be an opportunity
for us to find out what the obstacles
are to their being housed in Issaquah
what changes really need to be made to
have that population housed and we can
look at the subsidized housing that we
already have the affordable housing
projects
and send people out we could have a
cadre of volunteers who go out in both
interview the management and the
residents and find out what best
practices there are that make for
affordable housing that people really
want to live in so that all of our
residents are living in housing that's
not only affordable to them but
appreciated by them I think this will
strengthen our community we have to find
ways we're so far behind on the
affordable housing I think that needs to
be a particular priority and we need to
find a way to integrate it in a way that
allows people of diverse income levels
to know and understand each other and to
really live joyously in this community
thank you have any questions
hi steeper ah so several thoughts as I
looked through this or heard about the
read the discussion remove barriers
processing costs for 80 years I'm not
sure that that's a good thing that
benefits making affordable housing
happen it just makes it lower cost and
other housing but it's not really per se
affordable housing by other standards
I'm just concerned with kind of losing
that the idea of this sixty percent 80
percent 9 percent 100 percent cost ratio
strategy to
so one of the things it seems when I
talked about heard about the is Issaquah
Highlands it seems like there was a
requirement for a 30% affordable housing
stock and I'd like to see that concept
that idea of having a minimum affordable
stock of housing for the central
Issaquah plan for new development that
goes in for housing I don't think that
was a policy - per se and another
thought that occurs to me is that when
we talk about what's currently the
affordable stock kind of product of the
Old Town neighborhood area I would like
to see the city of the City Council is
currently indicated or extended the
moratorium to December of this year I'd
like to see that extended for the at
least for the downtown area for a more
term to continue to maintain or keep
that affordable stock of housing I'd
less so I'd like to see the PPC make a
recommendation to extend the moratorium
for the Old Town neighborhood area so
that we don't lose any more of that
existing stock while that moratorium is
in place because as soon as it goes away
then you can submit a permit and that
gives you a vested rights to tear down
or eliminate that existing small stock
of housing I agree with the idea I would
like to see one of the things that
talked about is a fun for city of is
quad for I guess basically raise taxes
or revenue to have affordable housing
that's kind of a strategy go on how we
go about that doing and how we raise
funds and how much funds we could manage
but I do think that needs to be part of
the discussion as far as a solution
thanks
and I'm Mary Lynch live at 269 o North
West Oak Crest Drive Issaquah Washington
and I just want to say thank you for I
think there's a lot of work has been
done and a lot of meetings held and I
think we as dressed earlier that the
points have all been addressed now's the
time for making sure that it does get
implemented and the codes get written
correctly around that because our
history and doing that has not been
really good especially when it comes to
the central area plan so my concern is
kind of with what Steve was saying is we
need this for the central area plan and
to raise the moratorium before some of
this stuff is done I'm a little bit
concerned because one of the reasons why
we had the moratorium is we weren't
getting what we wanted and I really
think since we're close to our numbers
on what we need in 2030 that to rush
ahead and lift the moratorium without
some of these things in place I think is
jumping the gun because we need to make
sure we do it right going forward
because we're not going to have a lot of
land to redo it
you know available and as Steve said
especially in Old Town I know I've
talked to a lot of those people down
there and they live in the smaller older
houses and they're just you know don't
know what to do because they've lived
there they've had views that are now
blocked they've had you know land that's
now their neighbors are you know
basically almost zero lot line with
what's been allowed to happen in three
and four-story tall buildings next to
the older family homes so even if they
wanted to age in place you know the
quality of life has gone down and so I
think some of the things we need to look
at especially without Old Town is some
zoning that will look at what really
should be there and do we want to keep
the character of what's in Old Town or
do we want to just blow it up and do
something different so whatever we do
going forward if we want to keep some of
the stuff in Old Town we need to make
sure that we have the codes in place to
control that the other thing I want to
say is the 90 percent is that my buzzer
okay the other thing I want to say is it
talks about a 90,000 median
income and the thing that I really want
to concern you is over the past five to
six years I know more people that have
had to move south and out of Issaquah
but are still working here and doing the
lower paid jobs or service jobs but they
couldn't afford the rent so they've
moved further south and I think that
when you're looking at 90 percent or 90
K most of your workforce here is lower
service industry you've got some
executives with Costco and you've got
some that's left with Microsoft but
you've really look at the workforce here
you've got teachers you've got firemen
you've got school bus drivers
you've got service people who are not at
that 90 percent even with two incomes so
you really need to look at I think look
at that as being lower and how do we get
our workforce back into Issaquah if we
get a workforce back in Issaquah that'll
help the traffic a lot so I think that
the schedule I would like to see it
sooner than later but if we can't get it
done sooner I really think we need to
talk to the City Council and say and we
need to hold off on the moratorium or
just prolong that until we get it right
so we can control our growth thank you
anybody else like to speak
hello my name is Peggy Foster I live at
2:00 to 5:00 for Newport Way Northwest
I'm also a realtor and I agree with a
lot of the things Randy said with regard
to the strategy one I'm curious do do
most homeowners even know that they have
the ability to build an Adu because I
didn't realize that it was a possibility
and what is the city doing to educate
people so that they can do these things
and is there an incentive for homeowners
to build a to use to take on that kind
of project and then on strategy 2 I
believe that the city should get
involved to the extent that the
neighborhood retains its present
character I think that that's so
important that's why a lot of us live
here because of the character of this
this area I think there should be
allowances and incidents to create
multi-family homes like a duplex or a
triplex and I think demolitions should
be considered only when the property is
beyond reasonable repair or remodel in
other words don't tear down a perfectly
good home just to replace it with a
larger newer model I think on strategy 3
about local resources I think that this
is a great opportunity especially in
creating cohousing this is a model that
would appeal especially to senior
homeowners who one don't want to leave
their home they want to stay there and
yet they'd have the benefit of having
another family or another person living
on the property so I think Randy was
right on target with that and that would
be a great opportunity for shared equity
allowing another party to buy in on an
existing home instead of renting as far
as number seven mitigating deterrence to
condo construction I would love to see a
requirement for the inclusion of
mixed-use space I think that that was
discussed once upon a time in the
central area central hezekiah plan and
I'd love to see that incorporated and
then on number 8
what about code provisions for allowing
existing homes so this is my question
what about a code provision that allows
existing homes to be retrofitted to be
like a duplex or triplex again keeping
with the character of the neighborhood
and that would be a fantastic
opportunity for Co housing and I
appreciate you letting me make these
these comments and some of my
observations every day we hear something
in the news about our housing crisis
right every day even in Bremerton I
heard this on KN KX the other day
yesterday so people that work in Seattle
are moving to Bremerton because of the
affordability and with that fast ferry
that's going to make it even more
desirable but the people that live in
Burton are now having to compete for the
lower you know the more affordable homes
so that's not really working I guess we
all know from that article in the Puget
Sound Business Journal the Seattle is
the ninth fastest growing Metro in the
nation gaining what eleven hundred
residents per week that's a crazy number
so what this tells me it's time for a
paradigm shift in the housing market and
one idea that I think is worth
mentioning is Urban cohousing with
intentional planning and use of space we
could retrofit existing properties to
accommodate more families this would
essentially be attractive to seniors
wanting to age in place and Millennials
that want to stay within the city limits
of course it's going to take some
forward-thinking individuals to create
some alternative housing solutions that
people will buy into and we see it's
already happening and companies like Co
buy are helping to facilitate this so if
we look at what uber has done for local
transportation and what Airbnb has done
for hotel accommodations
can you imagine what Co housing might do
for our demand here so I appreciate you
listening things there anyone else who
would like to speak tonight is there
anyone else who would like to speak
tonight
being none I will call the public
hearing closed that seven-day night I
I'll open up to you first you guys have
any additional comments or questions
answers I do have a concern as we are
looking at some of these questions about
creating incentives for development I do
not believe that we should have or allow
for incentives on new identity
development I think we need to mandate
that if we if we create and set up for
it and we're not allowing capitalism to
work so if we we need to create a
framework that says this is a
requirement I don't believe that we
should be incentivizing those kinds of
requirements they should be baked in to
another reason why I do not believe we
should be increasing the incentives is
because that means we're gonna have to
increase your taxes I do not believe
that we should increase property tax or
to fund incentives for affordable
housing because what that does is if we
have seniors that are living in their
homes now there aren't fixed incomes and
we raise property tax we're making that
investment for them less affordable so
those are my concern yes
Trish I was curious how does the city
feel like these strategies are really
addressing the increase in homeless
populations we've seen in our community
specifically we had numbers for the
single day census that was taken
regarding homeless children in our
school district when we think about
strategies we discussed about housing
specifically targeted to single mothers
having
talked about a variety of different
housing styles that aren't necessarily
traditional to be able to accommodate
families to be able to kind of get put
themselves up and kind of help them
through being at those lower income
brackets I'm not seeing any strategies
that really address that's one of the
population right that would be number
nine talks about homeless and transition
and and again we don't know how that
will work because we haven't dug in to
find out all the different options all
the different partners we just know that
it's an issue we haven't we haven't
figured out how to solve it yet it's
still a strategy sure Arthur Sullivan
again program manager of arch so Therese
is correct at number nine specifically
calls out homelessness but you'll also
see you know when you get to
homelessness and councilmember
silverstein pointed this out when we
were talking with them is that when you
get into the arena of homelessness
you're not dealing about just housing
you're dealing with a lot of service
issues as well often so there's an
overlap between the whole human services
efforts which the city is involved in as
well as housing and this plan is more
about the housing component but number
nine gets at understanding the
complexity of homelessness and the
combination of both the housing and its
services component and so that's where
that will be explored more but this
isn't something that's new to the city
and as a little move been pointed out
she's been involved with efforts locally
you have done something the community
has done some things in response in the
past to homelessness and then the
strategy about funding the city has been
funding affordable housing for years and
they have supported a wide range of
homeless housing through their funding
programs it has changed and evolved over
time and we continue to work on that a
number of the Reese I'd say we're to a
point that almost 20% of the resources
spent by the cities on affordable
housing are spent on housing
specifically targeted to homeless
households be it individuals
we're families it's and it changes over
time based on the work of human service
agencies and local agencies so the
homeless issue has one that's been
getting a lot of attention especially
the last 10 years and the city's
basically for in housing have been using
their housing funds so a number of the
developments in your community that have
been supported with affordable housing
dollars include housing units
specifically for housing households who
were formerly homeless the city did make
a piece of land one of the other
strategies is about surplus land the
city did work with what's their name
the local group compassion house to help
them they the city donated a house and
they moved it over to a property that
was donated to them and so that's a
local organization many of the new
larger developments the YWCA family
village some of those units are targeted
for households who were formerly
homeless so there are a wide range of
ways and strategies that homelessness
has been addressed on the capital side
as well as on the services side and so
those three different strategies though
are places in which the homeless issue
will has been touched in the past and we
assume will continue to be touched as
you go forward I think that's what
upsets me is because we see that that
has not actually made the impact that we
need in our community and so I would
have liked to have while I appreciate it
being called out by I assumed it was
gonna be called out it's something we've
discussed quite a bit I wish there was
something slightly more concrete whether
that's we're working with these
particular organizations of which there
are many in Seattle something that is a
little bit more concrete of saying these
this is the progress of where we're
moving right now
for some of these issues it feels a
little bit open and vague to me and
while I realize we have this time frame
of looking at it specifically regarding
strategy number nine I really think that
there could be something that's a little
a little more concrete about how where
the city would like to move forward to
doing a better job so if I could respond
to that as with the other strategies
where we're saying at this point until
you get in depth in each strategy it's
can be challenging to do that I think
one of the things we can potentially do
and
and maybe you know I want to try to test
this with you is homelessness is being
addressed on a more regional level now
it doesn't mean local actions aren't
happening but the resources are trying
to coordinate so that there's an overall
system that is trying to be more
effective so there's different
approaches to homelessness and they were
used five to ten years ago some of the
buildings we used to have were called
transitional housing they've been
converted to permanent housing for
homeless we're doing things called rapid
rehousing and it's being done through a
collective effort in which city staffs
and electeds are involved agencies are
involved and maybe something that could
be acknowledged here is in the report
here given the you know this is sort of
the first cut level is that homelessness
you know we will look hard at the
efforts being coordinated through all
home at the county level to help shape
local policies and moving forward to
increase our efforts maybe something
like that I would appreciate that okay
one of the reasons one of the ways that
the affordable housing is being funded
is through a light charge that everybody
pays when you sell a house when you
record a deed there was a small fee that
that goes along to that so there are
many avenues that that are is bringing
money in for affordable housing not for
homelessness but affordable housing I do
want to to just kind of say something
about a to use when you're in a city
like Bellevue which spread out and
doesn't have a area that they have to
contain all of their development in or
Bellevue Kirkland area where there's
areas where there's big lots where you
can build on ad use we're kind of we're
looking at this same central area and
there are very small lots and they're
Ramblers and to try to to make them into
a bu units you're gonna have to build on
to them and I don't know how many and be
supported in
in the downtown area it would be nice if
it was a lot more land and associated
with this but it's not and I certainly
don't think that it's really fair to
raise taxes on anybody everybody in
order to do support affordable housing
we need to find a way to do that is
there anything else that it's good for
the order and just a quick thing it's
more of a statement than anything I
appreciate the comments about the
moratorium coming to an end and we're
gonna work on this for you know the next
two years and meanwhile you know permits
can start coming in and so can I think
the question is kind of we kind of like
walk and chew gum at the same time you
know so maybe I would just ask and I'm
not really sure if there's flexibility
to do this because you know staff time
and everything but maybe we just sort of
if we can make a not even a
recommendation to council be just took
sort of a commitment that if we could
prioritize in the strategies that we
look at first you know those that are
going to influence what's coming and
after the moratorium is lifted in other
words it seems like so I'm thinking like
for you know four six seven and eight
are the kind of things that could
influence the kinds of things that are
built whereas the others are more about
retention of character and things which
are all important but I guess that's
just sort of a statement or maybe a
consideration for staff as we prioritize
these over the next two years like oh
that nutrition seems like the staff kind
of has a rough idea of the order in
which you want to tackle these and what
needs to be done before the moratorium
Rises after it did you something as you
as you talked through it so maybe I
think since I think the one through nine
is currently arbitrary it might might be
helpful to maybe sort those
chronologically not necessarily saying
number ones most important but that
might be the one that just from a
tactical standpoint will be tackling
first I don't I don't know I don't know
that would be helpful because when you
read it you kind of just assume one is
either is first right certainly
recommend which order to do them but
with staff resources we really we only
know that first two that are out of the
Gate this year maybe so maybe that just
means then I'm suggesting those becomes
one and two just to make that more clear
that's what we're going to tackle first
and maybe if the difference between five
and eight
there is no difference and that's fine
but made me just pull off those two I
think it's helpful because when you're
looking at a numbered 1 through 9 mm-hmm
it's just helpful to be ok 1 and 2
that's what we're gonna be tackling
first out of the gate I think them I
think that might be helpful okay I think
it's really important to do the codes
yeah I mean that's how we got into
trouble with some of the buildings that
did go up with because we didn't have a
code that said no you can't do that
so I'm afraid that 2 years time there's
going to be a lot that happens that is
going to take away from the character of
our of our city so one more
- I think to your to your comments that
these are the affordable housing
strategies you're looking at and the two
that have been identified that are most
linked to the moratorium are the ones
that are in the cent you know are the
zoning and the incentives and as well as
the Tod project because those are most
related that once you lift that's it
will then affect the development I you
can speak to this better than I can
there's several other things related to
codes for the central ASIC law that are
also being worked on now that will be
part of getting done as part of the
moratorium correct I would correct you
though correct us and say the nine are
the whole Housing Strategy not just
affordable right there's a whole Housing
Strategy the two that are going through
first are are two of the affordable ones
though right that are most related but
there's other actions that the council
has requested be completed as part of
the moratorium outside the housing that
these nine things that you see here
right working on most of them Bert
familiar with the architectural and
urban design which your public hearing
is on next week parking you already
finished her ah I'm missing somebody
isn't it their vertical the mixed-use
right that was the first one all of
those issues go into it I'm still right
I'm still concerned the vision that's
codes are not there to prohibit some
things that maybe we as a community
don't want in our community right I
agree I found one of the most
interesting things about this process so
far to me was poring over the raw census
data I love being able to actually see
how our community is changing I think
it's easy to think of Issaquah and older
terms and I like looking at seeing how
you know thirty percent of our
population and single individuals and
yet we have a huge glut of big
stand-alone multi bedroom housing in our
community and so it concerns me that the
moratorium is going to be lifted prior
to trying to put in these safeguards to
say no we're not getting the housing
that we wanted and yet we don't have
something in place to be able to ensure
that
and specifically regarding the types of
Units that we're going to be getting
so our concerns about kind of how this
is getting laid out and while I don't
expect us to have answers today and so
immediately I do want to see more of a
correlation between how are we trying to
actually get what we want right now we
have a great document about guiding
principles but actually that next step
of getting to the code amendments I
think are really critical right now that
sounds like and this is Ross here the
next step that we should probably think
about doing the recommendations these
strategies these nine strategies don't
get baked out so much faith but we
actually address we put resources we put
resources towards actually getting these
things knocked out in time for the
moratorium to before it's lifted no I
think we need to work with them and all
do deliberate speed and I think there's
some that are very specifically the one
that's very moratorium dependent that's
the developer developer incentives I
don't think we want to link this with
the moratorium I think we need to be
working on both of these as fast as as
as the volunteers and staff can I don't
think formally linking them is is
necessary would accomplish anything I
actually think there's requirements
that are being imposed on the council in
the way of county or state where you
have to do certain things in certain
orders and only have certain times to do
a moratorium so I think that that's one
of the things they're coming up at and
so I would love to see a moratorium
continue but I don't think that the
council has the authority based on all
these other things in order to do that
right they already made their Verity
said that it will be lifted the end of
December they already loaded on that
what I think in the in the spirit of
helping everyone move forward I think
should we move to recommend the nine
strategies as they as they stand I have
one quick question for Trish how many
languages is this document available in
right now on on the city website how
many languages is this document
available on the city website right now
is it solely in English right now yeah
this time I purview but I think our
website I don't know that our website
translates things yet okay that'd be a
good question though something that we
discussed in our work sessions was
talking about how to kind of really
bring the community together and have as
much outreach as possible and so while
affordable housing isn't necessarily the
the venue to be talking about how we
come together as a community
I would encourage city staff to see
about how we can arrange resources to
make this progression with the city more
available to all residents within our
community
okay AJ what were you gonna do I guess
can I move to have the Commission
recommend that these nine that we
endorse these nine tragedies and that
they should go to Council I have a
second look at all those in favor say
aye aye and so is that in the hole the
hole straight at the hole okay
hoping this is the way it is okay so you
didn't want to prioritize them or yeah
okay I don't know I think from a
presentation standpoint it would be
helpful but that was more of a
suggestion rather than like a formal
recommendation okay you know at least
some of our thoughts that what things
are most important but it also depends
on what the city has the facilities and
right the band wins to to be able to
address in what order they they're going
to come in so we understand that and so
we just I'm just hoping that things like
code amendments and you know the basics
I'm in there before you start planning
everything else because you can't you
can make all these plans and if the
codes aren't in in in place then anybody
can come in and do whatever they want
even though you want to go this way
they're going to go this way so you know
that that's just I think we've talked
about it oh yeah so at this point I feel
like we've tried to communicate to staff
how we feel about but what we're looking
at right now is a little bit limited
it's hard to be like yep all done leave
it to you and so so this is trying in
the spirit of saying that this is you
know forward momentum we want to not
necessarily tie your hands as saying
this is where we feel is the most
important way to allocate resources I
think you guys know that better but
while still I think we've communicated
to you tonight that this is a start and
we need to keep that momentum going okay
but it sounds like you agreed with AJ to
at least change the numbers on though to
that word trying to get done now it was
that orientation standpoint you've
already you've already clarified what
what those two things are that you're
initially working on right eight years
so that's
yeah that's sorbate we're basing that
off what you've told us rather than what
we see it's a priority okay
the carthesian yeah that's fair I'm
worried about the amount of time that
you're saying that this is going to take
to actually implement we got 12 years
yeah well yeah see we've got
developments going in now and as the
moratorium meet every week those are
going to be not applicable to this
document and this document it's actually
really important mm-hmm
what can we do to accelerate that
process give you more resources to get
this type of thing done you could get
involved in the budget process make a
recommendation that these be funded in
the next two years or something to you
know that there's enough resources to do
the work that's that's laid out about if
we mi make a recommendation to Council
just saying that we as a committee
consider this extremely important and
would like the council to consider doing
extra man-hours to accomplish what we
think is important for the future of
that community all ii bet yes and i
don't you know it doesn't have to be a
formal letter but i'm assuming that
Trish when she presents this - yeah she
adds this to the presentation great like
someone had mentioned once you build it
it's there it's gone it's there yeah
great okay sure
do you think we're helping Trish with
the work on this I just wanted to sort
of clarify a point or two from what I
just heard so we can make sure we get it
so what I think I've heard is you've had
a lot of comments and we will in the
staff memo to counsel try to incorporate
in his comments if not part of the
formal motion some of things you've said
tonight and one of the things I thought
I was hearing you just say in different
ways I just wanna make sure if we're
hearing this right is that some of the
strategies are code linked to code and
that if you were to have your druthers
in trying to sort of help filter the
code the ones that relate the code might
be the ones that are most important of
the nine to work on sooner than later
because the code is the core of what
cities do and how they manage what
happens and any more specifically we're
currently changing the code that's part
of other moratorium right work streams
and so it makes sense to do that
concurrently but some of the strategies
are clinic have code some of them are
money which is not code some of them's
encouraging state legislation which is
not city code so that's kind of where
I'm saying I'm trying to see if I'm
hearing that part is one thing to
consider is when they're looking at that
full list if it's code related and those
are the ones that often need the most
community conversation to to get through
because whatever opinion or is here
there's probably another opinion there
that everybody has to sort through and
you you guys will be helping do that but
I think that's what I wanted to see if I
was hearing correctly is the ones that
have code related items think hard about
trying to get going sooner than later
and I think and if and if this requires
a lot of work than don't worry abut but
I think what would might be helpful is
to have a little table that takes all
the the recommended policies you don't
need to restate them but yep 3 1 3 2 3 3
or whatever and then be like does this
require change the code and then just
like a yes/no just to help identify
which ones are codependent which ones
are not right just help just open
beginning right and some of them we
don't know until we actually dig in to
see what how to change it is if it's a
code or not okay so so well yeah so it
kind of can be like yes no maybe we just
want it done
I know okay that's yeah no that's that's
why I phrased it that way if that if
that to figure that out would actually
be doing the deep dive on the issue then
I mentioned code amendments or some of
them mentioned more specifically so
those would be you know obvious like ad
use but there's no inclusion area but
some of them like condominium I don't
know how that would turn out if we were
able to get the state legislature I
don't know if we'd have to change the
code yeah that's a really good point
okay
no I'll retract that suggest I think
well I think what we'll learn that as we
as we as we dive deep in each one of
these it'll be a lot of discussion on
okay actually as you said that what we
have done for some cities is we will
have something that will have like two
or three column two or three columns and
it'll say if its fiscal regulatory or
communications or community outreach I
and I may be checking more than one box
for some of the strategies and we maybe
could do something like that here III
think that would be great I think
helping us understand what the like
because you could see what you've done
with with the sub-bullets as you've have
a bunch as is a bunch of proposed
levers to pull and then try and then
classify in those levers is it a fiscal
lover is it a is it or is it is it a
code lovers the combination of the two I
think that would be that would just help
people just navigated a little bit
easier and I think also going out for
the smaller faster actionable items
maybe concurrently to one big task that
we have to deal with on this that might
take a lot of time they just start
knocking out things that are easy and
fast and we're staffed to be able to do
work on with current resources while
we're and you get other additional
resources right we've started some of
the Adu piece just because we know that
code and we know where some of the
problems are so we've started that one I
don't know when it will come but we've
started that one already
no but yeah because that's an easier one
because we know sort of what we're doing
on that we just don't quite even know
how to dive in because they're pretty
big now you get maybe five or six small
things done and while you're still
working on one big concurrent project
very optimistic that's how the counsel
that you need more people to help you do
this with that what is our next meeting
what's in the next week a week from
today two public hearings one is on
architectural review and urban design
manual that is a tool that the
Development Commission uses would be
using for development review in central
Issaquah they've been having meetings so
that the whatever it is that comes to
you all is what the Development
Commission feels they need to do a
better job in reviewing projects in
central Issaquah so that's next week if
that I ppthey meeting public hearing yes
just and we're gonna get feedback I
believe the packet is being worked on as
we speak by magic even though I'm
sitting here it will have a memo coming
from the development Commission letting
you know how they've review at least
that's what I'm being told us how
they've reviewed the draft as its moved
through how they use it how they feel it
will help them do a better job at
reviewing future projects coming through
through central and the other public
hearing that's the first one the define
that can you can you can I ask that that
little memo also briefly explain like
what the triggers are packet is going
out like in moments we're working on it
back at the office where I will be
heading directly okay this I think
they've already sent it to us we're just
madly packaging it as I sit here and
they sit back there they're probably
going get out of there Trish but I said
no I'm gonna stick it out but the other
one which I think you guys are going to
love the other public hearing is
another one an urban schools and this
one from your work with parking and your
work with some of the other moratorium
items we realized as urban schools went
forward I'm sorry that it would make
sense that if we're requiring structured
parking for some of the required parking
for offices and residential why wouldn't
we require that for a part of the
required parking first schools because
that would just help to not have big
surface parking lots so that one's
coming back to you with just that little
part not the whole urban schools amun
what day next Thursday as well there's
one meeting next thursday and then the
following meeting is well there's two
hearings at one meeting there's two
hearings in one meeting okay
the next meeting after that is September
14th which is your annual comp plan
public hearing on the 2017 pound fine
amendments okay there aren't that many
this year which is good for the public
hearing because we've been busy with so
many other things there's very few comp
plan amendments okay that that list is
in the packet right you guys know we got
it okay right and I can't remember how
many of you have RSVP'd for next week
but all right no I that's not the one
that you're missing you're missing the
big trifecta one the end of September
the end of September right I'll be here
you're gonna be here for the trifecta oh
good because that's a huge one on the
28th okay that's next week
no September 28 28 okay I thought that
was you had already stated everything I
know this has been the craziest year
I've ever had with the BC one okay so
without any other input I'm going to
call the meeting when end at 7:59 Wow oh
good work you are
you