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good evening and welcome to the March
5th meeting of the planning policy
commission I want to um thank all of you
for coming it's really exciting to see
real people in the audience so um thank
you very much uh the first thing on our
agenda is the approval minutes of the
January 22nd
meeting do I have a motion to
approve do I have a second second is
there any discussion
changes hearing none all those in favor
of approving the minutes please say I I
opposed tonight we're going to continue
on our last leg
of uh of discussing the a comp plan and
first on the agenda is Trish and she's
going to update us on the changes and
what's going on so Trish please take
away and I'll um pay special attention
to the redesignation reone letters that
I bet most of you received and that's
why you're here um so we'll be able to
to explain a little bit about that and
um and where we go from here and what
comments you have on that um today is um
a big day for you all um as Joan
mentioned we're updating the
comprehensive plan and this commission
has been working on it since last May um
other commissions have been helping us
with this and so tonight's goals are to
understand the changes that are being
proposed um to understand which plans
and policies are being Incorporated in
this update to understand that the
proposed rezones and red designations to
get all of your input and comments and
questions that you might have and
hopefully if you're able to to make a
recommendation to the city council those
are our goals for
tonight um the public process that you
all have gone through um includes not
only your review of um since last May of
all the elements you've seen them all at
least twice um up till tonight um the
other commissions that have helped you
the park board has looked at the parks
recreation trails and open space element
the Human Services Commission has looked
at the Human Services element and the
housing element the Arts commission has
looked at the cultural plan element and
the economic Vitality commission has
looked at the um economic Vitality
element and in addition I almost forgot
the Historical Society has looked also
looked at the cultural element so you've
had a lot of help you've had a lot of
stakeholders looking at the pieces and
parts to see how best they all fit in um
over a thousand letters were sent about
their rezones and uh redesignation
proposals um they went to all the
adjacent Property Owners to the 31
proposed Community facilities rezones
and to the cren Lane proposal and the
Emer um Talis proposal and so that was
over a thousand letters went out um to
let them know of tonight's meeting so
that they can comment and find out more
about it um so we've there's been a lot
of
Outreach um the significant changes um
document wide um we tried to remove
policies that were more implementation
in nature versus policies to make it a
shorter policy document which is it's
supposed to be a policy document we're
going to come back next year with the
implementation strategy so that um those
are um sort of more doable actionable um
measurable kinds of things whereas the
policies are more
aspirational so that was a change um we
removed a lot of the background
information that is you know no longer
relevant or it's old a lot of these
Amendment elements we hadn't updated
since we first wrote them just because
of timing we haven't been able to get
back to them we hope that we've made it
more user friendly because it's more
concise and clear and we've taken a lot
of the policies from the central plan
that we worked so hard on for so many
years as a community and we put those
into the whole city um some of those are
technology some of the pedestrian
friendly Mobility pieces um our Citywide
proposed now and uh some of the
sustainability pieces and of course the
growth targets um are Incorporated
Citywide that we uh adopted for the
central um Urban
Corp the vision 2040 document of the
region we were required by the state um
to do a comparison to show that we are
in consistent we are consistent with the
regional plan so that's a new piece of
this um the land use element has the
updated growth targets the updated
population the goals about natural
resources we also took all the existing
conditions that we sort of just
discussed we talked about the Urban Tree
canopy and climate change and our carbon
footprint and it there was just this big
discussion but they weren't connected to
policy so we took all the discussion and
we actually put it into the policy so
that we could refer to it and council
could use those as decisionmaking um
guidance instead of just sort of being a
descriptive um piece of the um of the
issue so we think that'll make it a more
user friendly
document the housing element had a lot
of good changes we had some help again
from Human Services um commission and
Arch that we work with um we updated a
lot of the information we talked about
how infill should be um more compatible
with what's what the existing
neighborhood is like um we're going to
create a housing strategy plan for
implementation next year to help us um
meet our housing goals um we added that
language about pedestrian friendliness
and
walkability um and again we put the
housing targets and the housing goals
from the central plan we incorporated
that as well with them uh remembering
too though that we have to have a jobs
housing balance to to help us with our
transportation goals as
well Transportation element we just came
out of the council's concurrency update
that took a good long time and a lot of
public Outreach for that that
information has been included you had a
couple of presentations from the
concurrency folks to help us with that
the Walk and Roll pedestrian
um Mobility plan action strategy has
been Incorporated we added the Central
isqua Transportation pieces into this
and we also added the policy that'll
help us towards that Master the mobility
master plan next
year um there are a few Transportation
um um tweaks that we made um just this
last week when we realized that sound
transit has yet another long range plan
of which we're happy to be incl included
in another one so that it's always good
and so we included that um mentioning
that as well as um the maps where were
again mentioned um this helps us in our
goal as a regional growth Center and it
helps us in our goal of someday having
light rail out here um so we're always
happy when the region um agrees with us
on that so um so these have come in
since the packet went out and we can if
you have questions we can spend more
time on
this um um another another lovely map
that has us on the
map utilities um it was pretty easy
update we added some new recycling
information and we updated the
technology piece technology piece to be
consistent with Central isqua Parks and
Rec um had a nice overhaul including the
um inventory piece because they're doing
their big overhaul this next year so
this was sort of the precursor to that
for them for the parks department and
the park board so uh we got we got the
best of of their work on that I was
really happy that they were working on
that economic Vitality is a lot shorter
uh this time because they based the
economic Vitality commission based it on
the Strategic plan they just finished
they took a lot of policies out that
were covered in other places one was the
uh the CBD Central business district
plan um uh policies because they're
updating that they've got an Oldtown um
um Task Force if if you will a council
goal is to bring more Vitality into the
Oldtown area which is where we are now
and so they wanted to remove that policy
so it doesn't H hinder or uh put a
barrier into what they may choose to do
or what direction they might
go the cultural element had a lot of
really good additions um they talked
about um partnering with the high school
for the efficient use of the Performing
Arts Center they talked about U more
enforcement of the architectural design
standards in the CBD which is where we
are uh they talked about um supporting
and promoting local talent and to Foster
greater understanding of our past and
present and our heritage and it also
added policies regarding historic
preservation um um recognizing that we
do have an interlocal agreement with
King County to help us with our
preservation um
efforts the Human Service elements gets
the prize for adding the most uh goals
and policies um most of these were
required um by the state but um some of
them were just really good ideas and um
help us with our emerging issues of um
Aging in place um non-english-speaking
um citizens in our um Community uh
public transportation uh Americans with
Disabilities to get more Ada um
compatible um functionality out there
and utility assistance programs this was
all really good oh and the sustainable
food access was a a a requirement this
was a really good update to this element
it was it was good to finally spend some
some good time on this
one and last but not least the capital
facilities element takes the city's
level of service for fire police um
Municipal facilities and matches it with
um how our population says we're going
to grow in the next six years and make
sure that we have the facilities in that
um Capital facility plan to um provide
for the population that's coming and in
all the level of service calculations
the only thing that's starting to um to
be in this in the future is that we're
going to need more Public Safety space
probably by
2019 um because the police are starting
to outgrow their facility um and as you
know things happen you know you can move
we have so many offices you can we can
you know move and adjust um but this
element is something that helps the
council decide where do we need to start
investing what changes do we need to
make in the near future so that we're
able to provide for growth and housing
and jobs that are in our
Targets this is where you all come in I
think part of what the city did this
year um we have a we own a lot of
property and the uh Council asked us to
do a inventory of all that we own to see
if we had any surplus property that we
either didn't need anymore that we
wanted to get rid of or you know what
all was out there do they have
facilities on them do they have Parkland
on them um what's out there so we we did
an inventory and we found that a lot of
parcels just had the wrong zoning on it
we had um one of my favorites is there's
a tiny little square up near Forest Rim
that has the two big water towers on it
or one um but it's zoned open space
obviously it's not open space it has two
huge you know things on it that you
would never think of that as you know
pristine lovely open space because it
has two big facilities on it so we
wanted to switch the zone to more
accurately describe how much Community
facilities facilities land we have and
how much open space we actually have um
that's one example um the city owned
land is um has three different
designations all under the umbrella of
community facilities one is open space
which is typically what you would
imagine pristine open space that really
shouldn't have a lot on it or anything
on it unless it's like something like a
utility um easement or something through
it um Recreation is another sort of
obvious one it would be a park or
something um of that nature that ball
fields kind of thing or um facilities
which is something that you would think
of that's either bulky like the Water
Tower or bulky like the police station
that might have some traffic associated
with it or bulky like the city hall or a
fire station um or a school could be a
facility any of those that are they are
more a built kind of a um object that
may also have transportation issues
because you know people are coming to
the city hall or they're coming to the
courthouse or they're coming to the
school obviously there's not a lot of
people coming to the water tower but
that's still a considered a
facility most of them had low density
residential land use designations on
them or they were just in the wrong
category of community facilities
when we realized um the errors that we
wanted to change by law we have to send
everyone within 300 feet of that parcel
notification that we would like to try
to change the zone and the designation
so that's why you all heard about this
because your property was amongst you
know the 300 feet of one of those
Parcels okay any questions from you all
on that one
okay this is the the this is the map of
the 31 as you can see some of them are
so little they're little than the
numbers that are on top of them some of
them are really little
this that's that's the one with the
water the big water towers on
it so this was one category of rezones
and red designations that you all may
have gotten a letter about the other one
there are two others one is the Emer
property and I'll quick switch to where
the map is on that it's a lot easier to
see on the map this is along
sr900 north of the Talis
entrance it's about
6.2 Acres I believe going to flip back
to the um it was back in the 90s when
the Talis back then it was called East
Village Development agreement was agreed
to with the city council and the master
developer this parcel was added as a
potential expansion area they didn't
have ownership of it yet but they did
the environmental review of it they
decided what land uses could be there if
they should ever get the ownership um
control of the land and they um they we
agreed that if they should ever be able
to control the land they would only have
to do these five things to bring it into
um bring it into the Urban Village
because we've already figured out the
land uses the trips the environmental
review of it that they just had to to
take over ownership and then apply for
this so they've met all of the um the
criteria they're in the process through
this process of applying to become an
expansion area and this is um this is
the Emer
property okay the next and last
redesignation this is what we call cron
Lane it's
um right off of cron Lane South of um
it would have been um you know 100 part
of the extension of Clark Street should
Clark Street had had ever been extended
and it never of course was um the city
owned this property it um had it's Steep
and has um you know there wasn't
anything we were going to do with it we
sold it last year to the applicant that
was um proposing a short plat on crosson
L of four properties and he applied in
August July August and a letter went out
to the property owners at that time that
there was a plat coming in and it was
under review and um it hasn't been
approved yet it hasn't been decided
they've done the environmental review um
but before they can go any farther
because the city has sold it we have to
change the zoning of it because it's no
longer Community facilities it's
actually privately owned and um needs to
have a single family Zone on it so
that's what this one this um proposal is
it's you know less than less than half
an acre and um it would be become it
would become part of the crosson lane
short plat if that was
approved um the hopefully the steps for
tonight is um you'll get to ask all your
questions you'll get to make a lot of
comments and questions um you'll decide
if you know enough or feel comfortable
enough making a res recommendation to
the full Council um if when it goes to
council
whenever that is they're going to send
it through their committees and their
work sessions and hopefully if all goes
well we'll be done in by the end of June
when the state deadline says that we
need to be
done are there any questions from you
all I think we'll wait to see what we
find from the public comment to see if
there's any additions or
okay our next uh thing that we're going
to do is to actually open the public
hearing but before I do that does
anybody else want to sign up to speak
tonight is there anybody
else I limited to
minutes there will be
there will
be my question I asked will you be
taking questions
or taking short questions as opposed to
a speech
'll I I just I think I'm not sure of the
process I haven't been to one of these
meetings so before and I do I just put
my hand up and ask a
question well what we what you're going
to do is go to the the microphone and
ask the question so that our
millions of listening audience can can
hear you and be part of the discussion
so you'll see how it flows and
absolutely you have the right to um your
comment is is like you your question is
like a comment so we will incorporate it
into it so are we still signing up yes
still signing up
um
yes
minutes a watch I think
okay so I'm going to
open the public comment uh public
hearing at
6:50 um I want to reinforce the fact
that each one of you will have the
opportunity to speak but you will be
limited to five minutes so that we
can get everybody in tonight so who is
first
John Brian okay come to the
microphone in tell us who you are where
you live I'm uh John Brian I'm chair of
the NGP committee on montro homeowners
association and I was invited to hear by
uh a number of uh homeowners in the
neighborhood who were a little concerned
about um a change of use and what that
might how they might their were their
lifestyle might be impacted
by um
two um Lots or tracks I should say
there's track
number track number one which is on alen
Glenn and track
number uh I think it's four it's hard to
read the designation on uh off Isola
place I'm going to switch the map so
it's easier to see
okay and um so I've had just a couple of
days to have a look at this and um at
first I thought um the tracks were part
of the NGP area that uh Borders or
surrounds or is part of the montro
development and I don't know if any of
you are familiar with the montro
development and the uh NGP area that
surrounds it but that uh land in my
understanding is is owned by the montro
Association but administered by the
city and and um it I it's still not
absolutely clear to me the ownership of
these tracks I think one is track G and
one is track B track B um it seems to be
at the bottom of the cerac of uh
montro of alpen glow and track G runs
behind between the native growth
protection area and B behind houses that
um uh the backyards of hous is on montro
and Isola place so is my question
knowing I've only got five minutes um my
question is is this just a technical
change that you are doing or is there
going to be a change of use which might
involve you turning it into basketball
courts or Recreation areas no these are
all the all 31 of the community
facilities rezones are technical changes
there are no proposed uh changes of use
to any of these properties we're just
trying to correct things for the papers
and for tax purposes and so that's
that's why these are being done no
change of uses are being proposed oh
well so what were they and what will
they become uh they're all different I
mean some were Zone single family duplex
some were Zone single family Suburban
just talking those right there
um those two are single family sub
single family suburban and they're being
proposed as Community facilities
facilities so when I a CL verification
question so when he said um number one
and number four is those represent the
numbers here on our I'm assuming those
are okay yes they see yes I'm reading
from the letter and it was hard to tell
whether it was a two or a four I believe
if you're talking about the furthest one
to the West it's number two that would
be that would be the Mont number one
right okay so essentially if there's no
change of use um I I really don't have
any more questions okay if it's if it's
not going to be built on that's all no
it will not
thank you you're
welcome who's
next the
she thank you uh John Bryan just spoke
Lyn
Davis yes you do and is there anyone
else who'd like to sign this anyone
else
okay hi um track the number 24 your
state your name and your address please
Lyn Davis 420 Southeast Evans Lane isqua
um number 24 is right in front of my
home and so now I understand that it was
just for zoning and no changes but my
question is um in the future um is there
any purpose for it or because it's
basically just like a gravel strip next
to the road or would it possibly be
sidewalk since we're right next to Clark
work um what could the use be well it's
09 Acres it's not even a tenth of an
acre so you know aside from potentially
some sort of access easement or maybe
some
underground lines or something I no
nothing would be built on top of it that
I can IM have to worry about it then
never say never but not my lifetime so
okay awesome that's all I have okay
thank you you're welcome
Jim
Bruner I'm Jim Brunner 520 Wilderness
Peak Drive I had a question on the uh
the Talis Emer uh reone so what is the
current zoning on that land the current
zoning
is low density residential you conserv
Conservancy residential um cons consy
residential consy resal and what's the
new proposed zoning Urban and what's the
difference between that um they can do
because of the environmental review they
did with the development
agreement is the red light
on here
hello hello I found it okay there I am
sorry um it can be between 6 to 12
developments on the um per acre it's a
um sort of a constrained site you know
it's certainly not a flat Valley kind of
a site but it's proposed that it can be
anywhere between six and 12 units per
acre up there on the six acres that it
has so basically the proposal is to
increase the housing density on that
plot correct correct and again the
environmental review and the traffic
counts were already done back when they
did all of the Talis um development
agreement traffic counts right they had
to do the traffic concurrency and the um
all the mitigation and environmental
review back when they did the
development agreement uhhuh so we have
no no traffic problems in isqua I didn't
say that I would never say that but
again it's they've already done their
review for it for the thought that
someday they would be able to bring it
into the Urban Village what year was
that done it was in the 90s okay so in
the 90s a traffic review was done MH and
it's now 2014
2015 um
I understand there's some traffic issues
in isqua rezoning land for higher
density um what's the impact on that
well when they bring their project um in
because again they haven't brought a
specific project they've just requested
that the land be brought in um they
haven't actually proposed a project on
it yet we would take a look at it then
um and I would imagine I haven't seen
anything but we would review it against
the environmental review that was done
back with the development agreement to
see if it's you know similar not similar
or how that would be I'm concerned about
raising the density on that property I
mean I think we've all seen the Great
Wall of Talis going up and it it doesn't
really uh enhance our community I don't
think um so may disagree on that and
slapping a higher density uh
neighborhood into that what is now trees
um I don't think will enhance the uh
area either
I'm guessing that others here feel the
same way right and um sadly the the um
in your case the um decision was made by
Council that if they could um do these
five things if they could take over
ownership and they're not getting
additional density they're they're using
the density that they've already had
approved in the Talis development
agreement and they're allowed to put
some of it there it's not like
additional from what they've already
been approved we're rezoning that Land
from the density it's at to density
correct and we're basing that on a
traffic study that's uh 20 years old um
yep that's the beauty and the detriment
of of development agreements is that
20-year lifespan things can change and
things can stay the same and it's a
contract between the master developer
and the city and we think that's the
right thing to do for the
city apparently we did in the 90s when
we approved it it's 2015 now do we think
it's the right thing to do now right I
that's not for me to say so that's my
question to the council it's a good
question thank
you Steve
Anderson he asked my question okay Doug
how hi I'm Doug how 1085 Greenwood
Boulevard Southwest squawk Mountain
adjacent to the little sliver parcel 27
several of my neighbors uh received the
letters and we um it got our attention
because I believe three or four years
ago there was an effort we were notified
to establish a trail Network um off the
same little sliver of property that went
down behind the
homes um and I believe it's going to
connect with the upper squawk Mountain
Trails so my question is is the rezone
of 27 which into Community
facilities which is listed on page one
as purposes include hiking trails is
there any effort to initiate a new
hiking trail because 27 doesn't connect
to any other public land it would have
to go through private our basically our
backyards to get up to the upper Trails
of the mountain no this this is simply a
technical change and there were we
uses whatever it is now is we're plan
we're planning on leaving it that way so
no there's been no discussion about
Trails there okay if there were would we
receive a letter then and I believe that
you would those are done by the parks
department I'm not sure what exactly
their process is but the parks
department is the one who determines
that kind of
Trail if if a trail were to go through
private property though we would need to
be notified oh oh yeah yeah absolutely
absolutely
okay thank you
NE good
evening uh Venit wahi 2661 Northwest
pine cone place in
isqua uh I'm here to speak on behalf of
some of our neighbors our Homeowner
Association is not yet fully formed as
we are still waiting for two houses to
be built and or complete uh completed
and then sold and then I think the Homer
Association will transfer from the
developer to the homeowners so I'm
speaking only on behalf of certainly me
personally and a few of our
neighbors um I'm speaking about uh
number three up there on the
map um I did some research the letter
indicated that we should speak with
Kristen at the city uh and then I also
wound up speaking with a gentleman named
Carrie also from the city uh City
Planning so my comments are a
conglomeration of what I learned through
that process um currently there is a
chain link fence surrounding a very deep
detention Pond where the water um I
guess flows in or seeps in and then it's
there to uh be it seeps out so it's to
not wash down the hillside it is a it's
a steep development um and it is 25 30
ft deep it's quite
deep um it's a bit of a hazard frankly
for a few reasons number one it's really
just in the spring and the summer kind
of a breeding ground for mosquitoes it
is slightly moving water but there's um
a layer of green pond scum on there now
I was just out there a few hours ago um
and I obviously can't tell from that far
away if there's mosquitoes buzzing
around but n nonetheless uh it's not a
it's not a very pleasant way to have
left that area
um there's also a hole in the fence and
so small I've got photographs if any of
you care to see them a child or even a a
a modest size adult could sneak through
a child obviously would be in terms of
an attractive Hazard would sleep would
be able to scoot through there and fall
uh and be injured quite seriously with
without any question and so the point of
that is that certainly the fence can be
repaired in the short term but in the
long term there are uh 30 homes of which
there are 23 children uh under the age
of five that live in that home live in
those homes um and it's an attractive
nuisance as it is now even once it's
repaired it's invariably going to
deteriorate over time or be damaged and
the same problem will be repeated and so
the current state is not good for public
from a public policy standpoint or
certainly from the neighbors
standpoint um the city has demonstrated
its goal of having uh parks within
walking distance of the neighborhoods
that it allows to be developed uh
there's no such Park that exists in our
neighborhood um within walking distance
you m you pretty much have to get in
your car and drive to a park uh at this
time at 23530 Southeast 49th Street
there is a similar
structure um and as part of the
development it was a lid was put on it
and a a small community park was placed
on it and so we would ask or I would ask
um that that there since there's a
precedent for that sort of treatment
that this be done for our neighborhood
as
well I believe what we're asking for is
that with this change in zoning uh it's
going to be I don't know if solidified
as the right word it's going to be
rezoned to be
CFR excuse me cfff whereas CF R would be
far superior in uh gaining support and
eventually having a lid placed on the
top of this pond and a park potentially
put on top of it as
well so that's our requ I guess my
question is would that not lead the city
to eventually look at that more
seriously and or uh is that really what
would drive us to that ultimate
goal did you want to well well I'm
thinking well I'm the one I spoke to
someone earlier about this on the phone
and I said I am not a uh detention Pond
specialist so he needed to talk to
Carrie which apparently he did or you
did I did I believe it was um and Carrie
said that this was an acceptable way to
treat it I can talk to him but yeah he
he actually was very kind and um and
contacted the consultant that did the
actual engineering works for originally
for this detention Pond and it is
structurally capable of handling uh a
lid being put on it not just in
isolation but there would need to be
either peers or some sort of Steel
reinforcement that would go across it um
but that it is possible for a modest by
Public Works Pro uh standards cost okay
because this is a it's a it's a much
bigger process than rezoning it to
Recreation so you know especially if
it's something that is the city is
expected to undertake as far as the cost
goes because especially a lid is not
inexpensive um so that part of it is not
something that I can answer right now
sure um so but formally changing it to
Recreation um I suppose this could be
the formal
request right and and the other piece um
even if it was Zone facilities um
because it's a storm water Pond even if
it was covered over with a recreation
facility it's still a a storm water
facility as well it's sort of a multi be
a multi-use and um another angle maybe
we could go for is that the parks
department is up updating their big plan
in this next year and that would be a a
brilliant comment for your your
neighborhood to make you know see how
easy this would be for our neighborhood
to have a walkable Park is to put it
right over your storm water facility
sure and I'll make a note to ask them um
tomorrow what what How would how would
it help them for you to ask you know do
they do they want to talk to you about
your thoughts for that or do you know
how what's the process to do the next
step of of turning that into it because
I'm sure it's it would have to get on
the City's budget um you know proposal
to to allocate the money for something
like that but right I I certainly cannot
speak for anyone but myself personally
um but there's two reasons why I think
this would be two additional Reasons
from a financial standpoint why this
would be beneficial number one um if it
were so again this is very loose numbers
uh the estimate that would be that it
would be approximately $1 to $150,000 to
put a lid on top of it and I don't know
whether that means just now we have a
concrete lid or if there's some sort of
covering that's reasonably attractive in
uh while waiting for a park quote
unquote to be um put on there so I think
that's the that's the scale we're
talking about it's not a million and
it's not $25,000 it's about1 $100,000
plus is the offthe cuff guess um and I
was told that there's something called a
utility local improvement district which
is effectively a private activity a
private Bond if you will that the
neighbors would vote on if there was a
majority then um if the city were to
make a contribution uh it's right next
to the Bentley house as well potentially
they would they would benefit because
their view is now for several of their
residents you know on a pond basically
an unattractive concrete bunker um and
so presumptively by doing that and I
understand there's rules about how much
um property taxes can increase by but
this would increase the public coffers
over time by increasing property values
for at least 35 well 70 residents 70
units if you include the Bentley house
plus the the immediately surrounding
neighborhood that's there and that's
just our little neighborhood if you
extend it a little bit further it's
probably another hundred homes so
obviously it's arguable well how much
would it increase it by and what would
the property tax increase be etc etc but
uh my suspicion is that there would be
there would be there's a strong
motivation both from a public policy
standpoint as well as from the
neighborhood to have a park there as I
mentioned we have so many small children
and right now we basically just play
have them play in the street um uh and
there's nowhere else for them to go
unless we want to get on our cars and
drive and that really destroys the
neighborhood feel so when it's a nice
day you'll find 15 kids in their little
trikes or just running around with dogs
and that's not an ideal scenario so and
if you leave your email for us we'll get
you connected with the parks folks to to
see how or if we can move forward with
that because you know it's not a bad
idea to to use it more than one way
thank you thank you and is just leaving
it on that signin sheet adequate yes uh
sure yes okay thank you that's a long
range plan but fixing the fence is not
right I have that down too the fence is
so we are going to uh continue on follow
if you'd like I can show you the picture
now or afterwards offline whatever is if
it's valuable let's do it afterwards
sure Matt
mattingley hi I'm Matt mattingley I live
at 700 West Sunset way uh just up the
hill and I'm here to speak on behalf of
the Emirate
State uh I uh represent them and uh Mr
and Mrs em unfortunately died some time
ago some of us who've been here as long
as I have since the 70s remember that uh
traffic was not a problem in those days
uh but it has gotten terrible and
there's no question that that's true um
neither uh is of
Interest as the as The Heirs and the
estate is concerned when they were
originally approached by the original
developer of
Talis uh they elected not to sell to
Talis at that
time and they elected that because they
had a very prosp they had their own home
there they were elderly people had a
very prosperous uh Nursery there I think
most of us if you've been here anytime
at all bought fuches and Bonas from them
uh nonetheless uh they were promised at
the time that if they did not oppose
Talis and the Talis development that
they would
be included in this ultimate
expansion to uh Talis and that would
then enhance the value of the property
for their children and grandchildren if
they had sold it originally then it
would have gone in at the zoning that is
now being considered because that was
already approved and what I guess they
don't understand and I would like some
explanation perhaps from you guys when
this was already agreed to already
approved vetted forever in a day as they
always are why in the Dickens isn't it
done now uh why can't because if we
postpone it and po we postpone it now
for three years uh part of that is
certainly no fault of the city of isqua
because the economy was in the toilet uh
but nonetheless we've postponed it and
postponed it because now we're told got
to go through zoning and all why it's
already approved it it's a lengthy
process and if we can't get construction
started then we got to wait another year
and all of that is very very upsetting
and costly to The Heirs right well um I
can understand what you're saying um
this was the first um there were five
criteria that that that you all agreed
to and one of them was that the master
developer had to approach the city and
say remember remember that agreement we
had we're ready now that was that was
done and they're here now that was done
some time ago right well we didn't hear
that they had to come and say we're
ready now and as soon as they said we're
ready which was in um December we said
we'll be done by June you'll have an
answer yes or no by June so I have't I
have an executed earnest money agreement
four years ago when they became in
possession of the property and said that
they talked to the people in charge and
were told they would have to go through
a rezone which is true which that we
were asked in this but the reone had
already been approved well it was
approved with the criteria that they had
to approach the city to ask us and we
were just asked in December and they did
approach the city well the gentleman I
anyway it anyway The Heirs have asked me
in they in Kansas and all over the place
had asked me to please come and see if I
can find out why this thing has been
stalled for so long and why they can't
settle their
estate well we acted on it as soon as we
got the the request in December we put
it on in allence to the gentleman who
raised the question uh that I I think
it's important to to know that that
density is already allowed it will not
change it will change on that particular
parcel but it will not change the
density that is allowed in Dallas it's
simply a transfer of location of the
density and therefore any traffic that
you're conc concerned about is going to
be there whether it's going to be there
from a different location or the same
location no problem also the uh heirs
and and
uh family
had a roadway or an entranceway a
driveway put in to access the property
rather than that real steep climb up the
hill that we had to make when we were
buying fuchsia uh and it was put in by
the uh by the county and uh it's in it's
ready to go so it will be a legitimate
intersection as opposed to a windy
driveway anyway uh thank you for
listening I'm still confused thank
you I can't read this
Kim Fox
and Barbara are you both
together I'm Kimmy Cox and I live at 695
17th Avenue Northwest this is the first
time i' ever done something like this so
this really new for me um my mom she's
owned property and lived in isqua since
1973 and she bought this house uh in 78
we've been there for a really long time
and we've been very blessed we live on
an acre and um what we had land all
around us property around us and Talis
came in and took out the 500 acres and
we you know swallowed and took that in
um because we can't progressly
understand that but a lot of we've seen
a lot of changes one traffic light to
now many traffic lights and very little
traffic with cow pastures to a huge
um conglom that's getting as big as B
you know and it's really sad to see this
little to it's really hard to see this
little town of isqua gets so big you
know that's what makes it so special but
um we were just concerned because we're
right next to Talis so the property that
they're going to build is going to be
right in front of our house where
they're going to build um we've
seen so many you know uh changes and I
agree with the gentleman that was
talking about the traffic because I I
have asthma and I can now smell the ex
lost from Talis from all the cars that
go through sr900 and it's just really
been hard on my health my mom's health
and it's just really sad to see um it
deteriorate like that and I'm sure other
people around there are feeling the same
thing and maybe not saying anything but
um the question she had um was she
wanted to know how many feet can they
actually come up to the front of our
property is it like 30 ft or what is the
actual
do you guys know that I don't know the
setbacks I don't know the development
agreement we were hoping that maybe I
can get you in touch with somebody you
know during business hours that could
explain the you know the actual
development agreement setbacks and
height and that kind of thing but um
because I was hoping if they do build
there that they could put like some kind
of like green space in between because
we have a lot of wildlife of course
everybody does here in esqua and we have
like a nursery we've been watching like
we have like eight or nine deer in our
yard all the time continuously and we
have a nursery right there where all the
The Mamas and have their babies right
there all the time every year and um
they play right in their front yard and
everything and I just can see that's all
going to be gone and another thing that
concerns me is right in t us there's
like a little stream that's been there
for a long time and I'm concerned about
whether that's going to be gone now that
little stream and that connects to the
isqua
um Creek and I know we have our Salmon
Run and everything so I don't know how
that's going to affect the environment
but I'm sure they've done Environmental
Studies you were saying that that
they're kind of going through the
process to do everything the right steps
and I just hope they consider all those
things right if you leave me your email
or if it's on the sheet I can get you in
touch with a current planner that can
help you through all the setbacks and
the buffers and the stream okay pieces
that would be wonderful okay and then
the other question she have of
she just want to know about zoning
92000 has that changed or is that the
same the zoning that's that I hope I'm
saying that correctly on
sr900 you said you had a question about
whether this is it single family
dwelling oh we already talked about that
and to restate that for the record your
question was whether the 30 foot
easement has changed that was on that
property right I would imagine and we
can check on this but I would imagine
that when it was annexed that the
anything that had to do with the county
would have been would have become the
city jurisdiction because it's no longer
in the county but again an easement is
something that we could check when you
came in to actually see your property
and the setbacks and buffers and the
stream we could actually figure that out
when you come in and you know we kind of
go into the Weeds on it and recently
just last year we put in um a long
driveway like about 600 foot driveway up
to our property and I'm just wondering
if they're going to be using that now to
carry their big construction trucks up
that driveway and stuff we put a lot of
money into it I was just kind of
concerned about that getting all tore
apart on your private property it's um
between
sr900 next to the other people's
property up it's an easement road that
we went ahead and paid the whole thing
and paid for it even though it's on
other people's property so these are
specific questions that we really we
need to ask okay but before you leave
tonight I know you're you wrote your um
email down here but would you also give
Trish your phone number so that not now
oh okay um that so she can make sure
that she's contacted and you get the
answers that you want because I know the
city wants to make sure that everything
is done right thank you I appreciate
that I appreciate you guys listening I
guess that's all my questions thank
you
Brit good evening I'm Beth Brett I live
at 320 1 Avenue Northeast isqua which is
right in the heart of Oldtown
isqua um uh I'm here to
uh specifically about the part the map
number 13 and 14 which is right in the
neighborhood where I live um I I will
say that you know after receiving the
letter thank you very much I did go and
I did started to dig through the
comprehensive plan documents and wow um
so I you know thank you guys for all the
hard work that's gone into that so I
just really really want to reflect that
it's clear that a lot of hard work and
thinking has has has gone into that um
on map number 13 and 14 my question is
really just understanding why the zoning
change is is what it is um and and and
just trying to understand like how it's
currently being used in a way that
reflects the new zoning
change so right the reason for the
zoning change right now they are there
zones single family duplex which shows
that they are privately owned and could
be developed as single family duplexes
but that is not the case they are owned
by the city and as far as I can tell
they're used by access it was a little
hard just for Access or something it's
kind of hard to tell it looks like one
of these might have been a RightWay
extension at some point um number 14
number 13 would be too small um but it
looks like that might have been what
that was for but it's not being used as
that so this is just a technical change
just to show that it is publicly owned
and used for public purpose but when I
read the definition of cff it says that
it's use includes uses that generate
high levels of traffic these are all
single family residences I mean because
I live there right these are all single
family residences on a dead end Street
and that's true for both 13 and 14
they're right against the creek MH right
I mean we're probably 100t from a creek
and you you know there are children
riding bicycles I mean I'm just trying
to understand cff right the the high use
the high impact zoning it's also because
it's a facility like a utility line or a
um it might there might be something
underneath it that's a facility that I
mean certainly a water tower or a police
station could not be built on either of
those um but that is one of the
categories though the high traffic for
for bigger sites that could have
something like that this is looks like
it's a either there's utilities under it
or as Kristen said it was a right of way
which is considered a facility kind of a
um versus open space where you know
nature and that kind of thing or a ball
field you know it's certainly neither of
those okay so there you know in the
development plans I couldn't find
anything the comprehensive plan you know
that would reflect building some
structure there and I can't imagine how
you could on 03 and 08 of an acre there
are no plans to change any of the uses
on any of these properties it's just
technical changes okay for paperwork
okay all right thank you thanks for
coming in
yepy
Grant good evening uh my name is Betsy
Grant I live at 340 1 Avenue Northeast
right next to Beth um and I my question
is about 13 and 14 as well 13 is in the
front yard of my property and 14 is on
the backyard of my property um and I've
heard and listened to everything you've
said and I understand that there's no
current plan to use those properties for
anything but my my primary concern is is
if um you change your mind in the future
and you decide to make a plan to use
that um 14 you can't really do anything
with because quite honestly it's a dead
it's it it ends at some another piece of
private property and it doesn't connect
to the creek or anything like that um so
I can't imagine anybody ever wanting to
do anything like that except for maybe
extended utility which wouldn't
interrupt my life but 13 connects
between the end of our street and
Dogwood Street um and so potentially um
somebody could change their mind and
want to use it for a sidewalk or
something like that because the land is
big enough for that um which would cause
traffic in our neighborhood to increase
so my question is um or one of my
questions is does the CF facility's
designation allow for that use um if you
decide to change your mind and use it
and I understand that there's no current
plan to change it but I'm more concerned
about 5 or 10 years from now if it has
this designation you say oh it's a
facilities we could just slap a sidewalk
in there anytime we want because it
already has that designation is that is
that allowed for in that designation it
is yes so if you want to you could come
in and put a sidewalk in there and
connect between the end of our road and
Dogwood Street
yes okay so is there another designation
that you could give that property that
would not allow
that and whether one of the open space
or Recreation or some other
designation besides the facilities that
would allow that without further comment
there is but we still do as Trish
mentioned earlier there is the
possibility that there is a utility
underneath there okay that we would need
access to and if that is the case it
would have to be facilities okay so we
would need to and check that first okay
but yes that is a possibility so before
this is agreed to can somebody look into
that and see if that's indeed the case
because I would like I'm very concerned
about that and your email's on there it
is so I can email you back it is okay um
the other thing that is of a concern is
having additional traffic if the use is
changed in the future um is there's
uh illegal activities that are sometimes
drawn to the do the Dogwood Street
bridge and we'd be concerned of if that
use is changed in the future of
attracting having more ease of access to
that area for illegal activities
underneath the bridge so and there's a
the Press I think it's called the
Preston Trail is two streets over so in
terms of just general public use um
there shouldn't ever be a need for that
change of use so we just like to make
sure that it's not a possibility to have
that but also give the city the correct
you know a more accurate zoning so yes
if you wouldn't mind finding out if
there is a utility under there or a
different designation other than the
facilities that it's current plan I
would appreciate that before this is
approved and put into the you know made
law okay I will check into that back to
you you're welcome thank
you Jim
Daniel how I'm uh Jim Daniel I'm at 550
Wilderness Peak Drive um want to thank
you all for sending out the letter and
the hard work getting this to us so we
can know about this um my question is
for the commission and it's more of a
broader I mean everybody has raised
really good points about the development
and and like you said to start off you
know there's potential of light ril
coming and my and my question
is knowing that there's going to be
rapid change rapid development traffic
parking issues
what is the commission's role and going
from a 20-year-old plan to addressing
these new things that were not even on
the radar back in the
90s what's the process right that's
that's what I'm asking well and I I can
answer some of this I believe well I was
I was uh I was talking to him simply
because he's on the development
commission there we
go if this is An approved plan which
apparently it is I mean that was
approved then now 20 years later
somebody comes in and wants to change
something it has to go through the
process so uh I'm not really
sure what your question is in regards to
if maybe times have changed but that
doesn't necessarily mean it's like a
contract yeah you signed a contract 20
years ago it's still valid regardless of
the times have changed now you have
different you know there environmental
assessment or review the development
commission will look at any coming plans
coming in for new development or
something we'll look at it if it's on a
site but I'm not sure we yeah maybe I
need to back that up so the the master
plan is there's the Talis master plan
right it was it wasn't really specific
in the letter about that I'm you just
referred to the master developer is that
specifically for the Talis property
right that's the the property owner
that's responsible for the development
of all of Talis okay yeah and I was I
was thinking more about like the the
surrounding area of 900 right because
it's not just Talis it's Talis it's
where the nursery is it's tibits it's
all all of this that's going to be
affected piece by piece or or more so as
it goes and were you all any of you all
here last summer when we had the um what
was the big controversy it was the Talis
trees thing yes anybody hear about that
I can only imagine what it's going to be
like if these properties pop up that
block the views there um and that that
that's kind of feeds me my question is
like how that what's the
process understanding this is a 20 the
the contract is the
contract things are not the same people
are going to have opinions people are
going to
have I'm not sure this answers your
question last night we had a two-hour
development commission meeting on a
property up um on the
isqua All City Road and Highlands Drive
there's a little wedge of property up
there and there's an there's a a company
that wants to install or build a memory
house 60 beds for uh Alzheimer's
patients basically a clinic yeah so they
want to put it on this chunk of property
it's two it's two two different pieces
of property there's Wetlands there the
whole process comes has gone through a
number of meetings with the planning
department last night was a community
conference with the developer and the
development commission and we looked at
the design there are design criteria we
looked at setbacks for the uh Wetlands
we looked whether or not the parking was
sufficient for the number of beds all
this goes through the same process and
you know how many trees were there and
there's a tree rule in regards how many
trees you can cut down and then or have
to replace and how many you have to
retain all those a factors are looked at
by the development commission before
these things are approved I don't know
if that answers your question no that
actually no that that's a great answer
because it leads me to like did that
process happen 20 years ago or is that
what we're going through right now for
for this parcel and I'm I'm sorry is it
one one or is it for the
EM there's an urban there there's an
Urban Village commiss Urban Village
right Urban Village commission that
looked at all these issues when when
Talis and the highlands were developed
they view all those things with the city
at the time it was developed okay yeah
that that's that's why I thought it was
a great answer because it leads to that
so you're saying 20 years ago that was
I'm sure I don't know if they look at
the same criteria but I know they looked
at all those things when they
established those two uh Urban Village
Concepts right right and as you
mentioned about the trees last summer of
course no one could have imagined yeah I
had no dog in that fight I mean right
how things were developed and that's why
the Urban Village commission reviews the
um actual projects as they come in to
make sure are they consistent or not
with the the deal that we made you know
back then does it fit with the
environment does it fit with the traffic
does it fit and sometimes they fit and
sometimes they need to get tweaked so
that it better fits and um so so it's
sort of a two process um a two-ended
process is you set the policy Direction
and what you want to see happen there
and then as the Pieces come in you make
sure they fit into the puzzle that you
you thought you were building okay so I
think we're getting closer to answering
my question that's outstanding
information when is the part you said as
the Pieces come in MH when has that
happen like is that the design proposal
when the developer comes and says I want
to build here right that would have been
when like parcel 7 for Talis would have
come in before the um um econ or um UV
the Urban Village Development commission
and said you know we want the wall and
we want it to be this big and the
community and the UVC said well the wall
can't be this big it can be this big and
so it sort of got fit back into the
puzzle um so that people would um feel
better about it feel that it met the
process or the the original Vision a
little bit better okay but yeah it's
sort of a a two-step you know you you
get the it's sort of like that I want to
go on a vacation and it's wonderful and
then you have to do all the details well
you know can I go to Europe well maybe I
can't but you know but can I go to
Canada that's still International can I
you know and you sort of winnow it down
and then you know you just get into the
details once you get closer to actually
doing the puzzle okay and I'm not sure
if when Emer comes in if it'll go to the
Urban Village commission or not I'm I'm
not that familiar with the development
agreement and is there an example of an
Urban Village that exists inqua that you
can point us to the highlands is an
Urban Village Talis is one Lakeside is
one um that yeah it's confusing because
Highlands has an extensive amount of
retail in it that Talis do not Talis
hasn't gotten there yet but it's it
totally falls into the same they're
similar Talis does have some commercial
up there and there and the original Plan
called for for office off and and so it
is a more commercial area up there so
yeah it is
uh land unit development right and and
Highlands waited a long time before
their retail the market was finally
there for the retail and Talis is
waiting for the market for their office
okay peace all right thank you all very
much good questions though thanks
yeah did I get everybody wanted to
speak that was oh okay I'm sorry I
skipped every I thought he was speaking
on your okay I
apologize um and I'll be quick Jesse
timberman's 18106 Northwest montro Drive
I live just I guess in front of number
two um and I think a lot of these
questions been asked already but just a
different flavor I guess I would request
that and first of all I agree that it
was rezoned inappropriately to begin
with so it's a good rezoning um but
request that it be looked at as a CFO or
CFR instead of the
cfff okay the same as I said earlier I
will go back and check if it's cff it's
usually because there is a utility there
so I will go back and check and I have
your email so I can email you and let
you know perfect okay thank you you're
welcome I just want to uh reiterate I
think there's one other gentleman wants
to speak oh I'm on the next
page I've never had this before uh
Darren please come to the
microphone uh thank you Darren Pew I
represent Talis Management Services uh
we are the master development uh
developer for uh for the Talis
development currently uh here to speak
on behalf of the uh our request to
include the Emer property as part of the
Talis development agreement um as you've
seen that the Emer property is
approximately 6.2 Acres um the Talis
development originally started at
something in excess of
650 Acres uh currently there's a 180
Acres that are under the development
agreement itself uh which includes all
of the parcels that are either currently
under development have been developed
and or are to be developed which
includes the office uh and Commercial
component that you
discussed uh the emeric parcel was
contemplated under the original
development part uh agreement uh then
known as the as the East Village
Development agreement currently the
Talis de development agreement uh as an
expansion parcel so it was identified
reviewed and and contemplated to
ultimately be within the Talis
development um as uh was stated earlier
at that time the owners because they
were still using the property chose not
to
participate uh in the development at
that point in time but chose to be a
potential participant in the future when
it made more sense for their particular
situation
um currently Talis is entitled to
1760 residential development
units the actual buildout to date
including what's going on in parcel 7
and 8 which are the two
uh actually Parcels 78 and N which are
the three remaining development Parcels
that are under construction have gone
through preliminary plat in the in the
last uh six months and are under
construction including those Parcels
there's only
1,400 out of the six uh out of the
1760 residential Parcels that were um
identified under that agreement that
will actually Beil built out so so under
the current proposal we still have 300
plus units that are in excess of what
was approved under the original
development proposal so this kind of
speaks to some of the traffic issues
some of the things that were
contemplated at the time the Talis
development improved all of the sr900
improvements from uh Newport way all the
way past the development and into Talis
it also extended water sewer utilities
and and and everything up
sr900 as part of the 1700 units those
have not been built
out uh relative to the Emer property uh
they've not been built out in total so
again we still have 300 units that that
were contemplated for traffic sewer
water all of these other utilities they
have not been utilized at this point so
we're we're underdeveloped at this point
in time uh again specific to the Emer
property uh this is 6.2 acres in total
um the request is simply at this point
as as Trish is pointed out is a process
to just first bring it into Talis and
have it be under the development
agreement so that requires a request a
comprehensive plan change so now it's
under the
regulations um that that are consistent
with the development agreement uh for
Talis as far as the development itself
the
the designation that uh for the parcel
as an expansion parcel was low density
residential I think Trish did say 6 to
12 per acre um that's a maximum and
that's a range that is put on there the
reality for this particular parcel is
because of the topography the most of
the back half of the property is um a
steep slope that's undevelopable there
is a uh uh a small uh stream drainage
ditch that comes through into the pond
uh that limits development we're
probably looking at something around
15 single family residential units
something in the 25 maybe 30 town home
units maximum so as a percentage basis
this is you know one and a half to 2 and
a half% of the entire uh development uh
entitlement that was proved provided
under the Talis agreement so it's it's
really a minor uh amount of of
residential units and certainly was
contemplated as part of the original
development agreement and Falls within
that 1700 units that were entitled um so
I don't think that's a huge impact the
specifics of this particular piece
relative to Talis are number one it sits
well below Talis it doesn't have access
from the the current Talis what I can
considered to be the the main body of
Talis it accesses on its own uh private
driveway off of
sr900 uh it does not access through
anybody else's property so we basically
have a single drive into this small
parcel to to uh access this kind of
small kind of out outcropping of
residential units um it's adjacent to
what is currently the um drainage
facilities that uh for for the main body
of Talis uh what we call uh the sand
filter and um Pond uh 5c down at the
bottom there's also a shop facility so
relative to adjacent uses there there is
potentially a residential use on the
north side of the
property to the um West and to the South
are both Talis Parcels that are
undeveloped and will always be
undeveloped so the impact of this
particular property is really very
minimal relative to both traffic
adjoining properties and and all the
other concerns that that we've raised
and it's really a minor expansion that
was approved and contemplated under the
original development agreement so that's
uh if you have any questions I'm happy
to answer that I appreciate your time I
think you've made a good presentation
thank
you um for all of those people who want
to be contacted or want more
information um if you are not contacted
I would suggest you contact the city
because some of the uh emails to me are
unreadable and if it's an a instead of
an I sometimes you're not going to get
your uh the reply that you're expecting
so um I encourage you to um if you don't
hear from the city in a short amount of
time to please call the city call Trish
and she'll get you in into the uh
contact with the right person so um I
would encourage you to do that so with
that and I see nobody else that wants to
do any um to come to the mic I'm going
to close the the
meeting public hearing at at
7:45 and open it up for discussion for
the committee does anybody have anything
concerning anything in the comp plan
I know that there there's some red in it
some things have been changed um you had
eight suggestions from the community
that you got another copy of today um
most of those ideas were indeed
incorporated into the plan so that um I
want everybody to know that the city is
listening to comments from the community
they are
trying um is there anything else that
you want to add delete um do we have to
vote for approval of this right and I
wanted to add um I'm glad you mentioned
that I received an email late today from
Bill fringer who lives off of cross and
Lane and he was also concerned about
cross and Lane and the development there
um he was more concerned about the
actual project the actual short plat
versus the rezone um but I told them
that I would mention that at the um at
the meeting even though it you're not
really looking at the plat you're
looking at the reone but I told them I
would mention that tonight so thank you
for reminding me that
yeah to
staff a number of the citizens have
asked about changing it to something
else and you'd say you would look at it
so does that any way a change what we
are proposing or we have to make that as
a condition to if we would approve the
comp plan or are we just going to take
that
as um um well since this what you see
here is the administration's
recommendation based on the research
that we did if you feel
compelled that you would want to change
any of those that were requested based
it based on I don't want to change
anything because I don't know the answer
you don't know the answers either so
you're so I just don't know if what
affect us recommending this if those
things are potentially to be changed
would have you could have that as a
caveat that that they wouldn't either
you're in favor if if the couple that
would have been facilities would change
to something else if you would be in
favor of something like that you might
leave that open or you might say you
know that it's six of one half dozen of
the other and you're fine the way it
is I'm fine the way it is I don't live
there but there are people that are
concerned about changing it and I just
don't want us to give a blanket approval
if we find out after the fact that you
could have changed it and it make make a
difference I right and it would still go
through Council and the council
committees as well and I um as we said
we're going to contact them if they
could could be Chang and then we can
talk about that at the council level as
well that would answer that Carl I think
you just answered my question Trish
there's still an opportunity for public
input and the possibility for them to
have the council consider amendments
even though we adopt this tonight and
send it up for approve it and send it up
right okay ours is just a
recommendation Council has the authority
to say yes or no right so with that I
just have one comment um to the
comprehensive plan and this is to
um H policy A1 on page 87 of 309 of our
packets
goodness and I I believe I voiced this
earlier on oh wait for everyone to get
there housing okay okay 87 okay 87 right
all right okay which number H policy A1
okay um my only suggestion would be um I
believe um King County if not Washington
but I know King County especially uh
includes gender identity as a separate
protected class and just to bring it in
line with County requirements I think
that should be added to H policy
A1 and what was the term gender identity
but other than that I would recommend
approval as well okay I'll add that in
action that one
change a motion to I I have to have
motion to accept all that work so I make
that motion I'll I'll you made the
motion I'll second that motion all those
in favor to add tender identity to
policy
a11 i i
i motion approved
so if we sign off on
this it will be with that
change which you can change in the in
the body of the information right yes
okay so with that I need a I'll make a
motion to approve it as
amended
second did I hear a
second seconds any further discussion
just to verify that um I do want to say
to thank you for the to the staff I mean
this is a really um detailed process and
a detailed plan that um is it a perfect
plan no but is it a a good plan and a
start of a good plan I think we're we're
pretty well there I think it covers just
about everything in the city that they
need to do to look at with the um
comments of the um the people of the
community if there's anything that they
want to change or um you know things can
change for reason and I think you uh
there have been a lot of good reasons
that people have brought to the meeting
this evening so uh thank you very much
so with that I all those in favor of
accepting the comp plan with the one
change please say I I I
opposed we are at approval stage of the
comp plan so with that is there anything
else for the good of the order does
anybody else want to bring up
anything okay with that I will close the
meeting at
7:50 great job the big agenda thank you
all for
coming thanks for
coming and we have all people to call I
actually sat for hour and a half