Okay. >> Okay. Welcome everybody. This is the uh May 13th environmental board meeting. Uh my name is Don Mcwills. I'll be your chair tonight. Our meetings are hybrid in nature. So we have some people online, some people in the room. Um for those of you online, if you want to uh if you have a comment to make, please just raise your virtual hand and I'll be watching for it and I'll call you in the order I see. For those of you at the table, we flip our sign up when we want to make a comment and then I'll just come around and grab you as I see the signs going. >> Hi, Roger. >> Hey, um Stacy, can you give us call to order tonight? >> Uh we'll just do a roll call and just say here if you're uh Tommy Anderson >> here. >> Uh Nancy Davidson has an excused absence. Tommy Dubau >> here. >> Pashka Pandi >> here. Kieran Pond has an excused absence. Don Mapleium here. >> Risha Chararma. >> Shannon Rock. >> Yep. >> Alex Lee Tigner >> here. >> Susie Dearo >> here. >> Uh Keith Grimmer Gonzalez um has an excused absence. There's potential he might join later. Okay. >> And Triar Krishnan >> here. >> All right. And um sorry I didn't alert folks this before. We do have with Nancy out um one of our alternates. Uh you want to sit in as a regular member. We do have an item to vote on tonight. Um I might just pick Shannon if that's okay. Uh you're the first on my list and then what I do is just rotate through. So, next time we need to alternate, we'll just go to Susie and then >> Great. >> Thank you. Um, next up we have approval of minutes. We have two sets of minutes to approve. So, the April 16th meeting and the April 22nd meeting. Are there any changes to the minutes anybody would like to see? >> I think we only had a couple people that were at those meetings >> two there. Okay. hearing. None. We'll call those approved. Okay. We have any public comments tonight, Stacy? I don't see anybody. >> We do not have any members of the public and we did not receive any written public comment. >> Good. All right, let's start with start with introductions. Um, so we have four new members with us tonight. Congratulations. Welcome. We're happy to have you here. And I think why don't the board the existing board members just do a quick intro of each of us and then if you guys want to just say a quick word, we'd appreciate that. maybe just your name, your interest in the board, kind of how what brought you here. So, I'm Don McWills. I joined the board back in 2020, you believe, when the board first started. Um, and I've been with it ever since. Uh, moved up from board member to vice chair to now currently chair. Um, I came into the board because I've always worked in the environmental industry and had a passion for it and just live right up the street in Preston. So, it opened up. I thought it would be an interesting role. Tom >> uh Tom Anderson I live here in Isiqua. I've also been with the board from the beginning 2020. And I guess I the thing that kind of attracted me to getting involved with the board. I'm I'm a volunteer with the Isquel Trails Club. So the connection of Isiqua with the the trails and the Isiqua Alps that surround us is an important thing to me. And I wanted to bring that little aspect of my life into into the board. And I also volunteer with the squala history museum. So maintenance historical aspect of our community is also important to me and sometimes that ties in with our work here. So those things appealed to me. So I got on board. >> Thank you Tom Raj. >> Um hi I'm Praj. Um so I'm an environmental engineer by education lived in Samamesh close to Isakwa for over 20 years and really like the neighborhood and now I don't work s I'm passionate about sustainability and now I don't work in consulting so I wanted to still do something you know which is technical and that's why I'm on the board for a couple of years and I hope you will enjoy it too being here. Welcome. >> Thank you. um whether they're online folks. Alex, how about you? >> Good evening everyone. U my name is Alex Lee Tigner. I am the vice chair of the board. Um I have been serving for I think three years now. Um and I work for a nonprofit called Trout Unlimited that works out of Lake Seamish State Park throughout the Lake Seamish um and King County areas. Um, and I have, um, the joy of getting to do community outreach, engagement, education, research and monitoring, and habitat restoration. Um, and so my role fits really well with the s the um environmental board's goals, and I was um, excited to join a few years ago and and I enjoy um, getting to continue on. >> Thank you, Alex. Tommy. >> Hi. Good evening. Tommy Dau um grew up in the Klahani neighborhood sort of adjacent to Isiqua. Uh my background uh is really in politics. I studied uh political science at the UDub and I took some climate politics classes that sort of got me interested in environmentalism. Um, and through my work in campaigns and uh, legislative staffing, sort of interacted with local government, uh, especially through Isiqua and so kind of followed some advice to get on the environmental board. Um, and I now work as a, uh, legislative political director for a labor union operating engineers local 302. Uh, and so good to be here tonight. >> Thank you, Tommy. All right. Um how about we just go around the table? We'll start with you. >> Sounds good. Thank you. Thanks for having me here. I'm glad to join. Really happy to join here. Um well, I used to be in business consulting for several years and um a few months ago I quit that and became an independent consultant and wanted to also focus on environmental issues and climate change and related areas. And uh I heard about the amazing work this board does and wanted to be part of it. and of course um preserve the community as much as possible. Um we have a wonderful neighborhood, a lot of natural assets and and want to be part of what we do here. Glad to be here. >> Thank you. >> Uh my name is Shannon Rock and uh similar I feel like to every one of you, I'm passionate about the outdoors and want to sustain and take care of the critters in our environment and as well as this beautiful area that we live. And so when uh spot opened up and I had space in my life, I thought I would try give it a try. >> Thank you. >> Hi everyone. I'm Susie Dearo. I'm glad to be here and nice to meet all of you. Um I moved to Isaqua a little over a year ago now. Um and I've spent my career working in sustainability on climate um in a variety of different spaces from food and agriculture systems to uh decarbonization strategy uh fleet electrification and currently working on climate uh technology innovation. Um most of my work is on a national or international scale and I was really interested um in the opportunity to contribute locally. Um and I think it's an important time to be involved in the democratic process. Um so looking forward to contributing. >> Thank you. >> Hi everyone. Um I'm Risha Sherman. I'm here as our youth representative. I'm a freshman at Ezeka High School. I'm also on our youth advisory board and I'm here mostly just because I really care about this community. I've lived here my whole life and I'm passionate about the environment. So yeah, I'm looking forward to working with you all. >> Thank you, Risha. Thank you everybody. We appreciate it and um we're happy to have you here and we hope you enjoy it. Anything to add? >> Okay. All right. Next up, Stacey's going to walk us through some um changes to our board rules and regulations. We may or may not have a vote at the end of this. We'll kind of see what we feel like. >> Right. Can I get a thumbs up? Tommy, can you see uh the document on the screen? Okay, great. Um so after discussions, well, back up. Um our board has rules and regulations. Um hopefully it may have been a few years since folks have looked at them. Hopefully um those new members that participated in the board training last week believe they were mentioned there. Um but they basically just talk about the operations of our board. We have modified them over the last few years um especially kind of as we came back in person after COVID um allowing for some virtual attendance just thinking about our missions and travel. Um, so they have been modified over the last couple of years and, um, this spring we started having conversations about two additional potential modifications that we want to propose to the board. Um, as Don said, we do not need to make a decision tonight. Um, there is one item that we would need to take action on even if we don't make a decision, which I'll speak about in a few minutes. Um, but these are up for discussion. uh really just looking on the board's input and what your preferred direction is. Um the first topic is our rules and regulations currently state that we elect our chair and vice chair in May. Um that's because the new terms are starting then they can serve a full year um in case they're going to be rotating off. What's really challenging is that when we have new members of the board joining, they do not have an opportunity to get to know other members of the board before voting for a chair and vice chair. And so many of the city's boards and commissions have postponed and changed their rules and regulations to do the chair and vice chair vote in the fall. In discussing with Don and Alex, um we thought that made sense. Um and so we wanted to bring that to the board for discussion and see if there's interest in postponing. Um if we're not ready to take action on this tonight, we can vote to essentially delay a vote until June. Um that would ensure that we're not in violation of our current rules and regulations that says we must vote in our chair and vice chair tonight. Um why don't I pause on that one and we can take any discussion thoughts and then I can discuss the other one. >> Okay. So our choices are we can either delay the vote till September and if that's the case then would Alex and I remain in our current roles. >> Yes. So, what I've proposed, and this is all up for discussion, um, is that we move the election till September, um, and then what I thought might make sense is at the current chair and vice chair would serve out that September meeting, um, finish their term then, and then the new chair and vice chair could start October and be in their role until September, the following September. Now, if we have chair and vice chair that rotate off in the same year, that might get a little complicated and I can talk to our clerks about how other boards and commissions deal with that. Um, but I think usually our our terms are staggered enough that I think that would be probably a pretty rare circumstance. Um, so let's say Don let's say Don and Alex uh remain as chair and vice chair. Don decides to um leave the board next spring, then Alex could move into that chair role until october and we could elect someone new, but we can work through those details with the clerks. >> Raj, >> um I think that's a great idea. I support the vote if you're actually taking the vote. Uh because you know, as you said, I mean, this is this makes sense because the new members don't know anything about the board or the chair or the vice chair. So you know it gives them a little bit of time to and I think pushing it by few months I think it makes sense so that they get a feel of the board and what the board does as well as they will get to know people what they do and you know so I I think it's a great idea and I would vote yes if you're taking a vote today Tom. >> Uh yes I would concur. It sounds like a a well motivated idea. I I'm curious though like what uh what other what boards have decided to follow this path and have there been any that have decided no? >> Yeah, it was only brought to my attention a couple months ago that some of the boards do this. I know I can't name off the top of my head all of them. I know the transportation advisory board does this and then I believe there's two or three others um that have made this move and as the liaison learned about it most of the other boards and commissions are planning to propose this as well. >> Were there any cases where they learned about it and they voted it down? >> Not that I'm aware of nor any cases where they moved to a later election, decided that didn't work and move back. I haven't heard of those situations, but yeah, great questions. >> Thank you. >> I think we're ready to take a vote on this is what I'm hearing. So, um, how do you Does it have to be official? Yay, nay. Or just things for >> the rules and regulations. We should probably do an official. >> Okay. >> So, um, so Shannon, we'll have you vote tonight. Um, >> yes. So, why don't we take this one and then we can talk about the other one. So, would we need a motion? >> Oh, I propose a motion to move our our uh terms to September instead of May. >> I second that. >> And then I can do a You want me to do a roll call? Okay, we'll do a roll call. Just say yay or nay. Uh Tom Anderson. >> Yay. Tommy, >> yay. >> Rush, >> yay. >> Don, >> yay. >> Risha, >> yay. >> Shannon, >> yay. >> Alex, >> yay. >> Okay, that passes. >> Congratulations. We haven't done a vote in a while. Yay. >> Great. Um, great. Well, we will work with the clerks to formalize that and then Don and Alex, you will end up receiving this document for a signature um once we that change official. Um all right. And then the next change that was proposed was brought forward by some board members. Um, we have had several special meetings in a different meeting room over by the community center uh this spring as we were working through the climate action plan and several of the board members just found that space a little more inviting and intimate and easier for conversation. It is a much smaller space um and so they proposed or asked if it would be possible for us to move our meetings there. That space is in high demand. Um there's another group that meets this evening um on the second Wednesday of the month. And so the um best option assuming we don't want to meet on a Friday evening is the fourth Wednesday of the month. And so this change would move our meetings from the second to the fourth Wednesday of the month and to steal headroom. Um this is not something we need to vote on tonight. Uh folks can check personal calendars. I'm happy to give those that haven't seen the space a quick tour. Um, so there's no urgency with this. Um, the one item I did mention to Dawn is for our June meeting, which is currently scheduled for June 10th, we have many students slotted to come and talk about all the work they've been doing this year and we would not want to move that meeting to the end of June because they will be on summer break. So, if we do make this change tonight, um I would request it goes into effect for our July meeting or whichever meeting you all want to. >> Um so, Stacey, I've been to that meeting to that meeting room and it is fine. The only thing is we do have a lot of times lot of public uh speakers for public comment as well as you do have some guest speakers from parks or other departments. Um so if we have both of them at the same time I'm not sure if there is enough space for everybody right because I think that can hold probably 10 to 15 people max I think well >> and we have had around 15 or more at times if we have means more people for public comment as well as then we have all 10 members and then we have you know two or three guest speakers. Yeah, I think it will exceed. That would be my only concern. Otherwise, I don't see an issue with that. >> Thanks, Crash. Susie, >> yeah, I have two questions or concerns. Um, my first question um is wanting to make sure that um the steelhead room has equivalent uh like virtual capacity and like the the level of uh AV that the space has. Um if it doesn't have that, that might be a potential downside. Um, and then the other flag, um, is that moving to the fourth Thursday or fourth Wednesday of the month. I imagine that we'll run into more conflicts, um, in November and December with the holidays. >> Um, and curious how rescheduling due to um, changes has been in the past, if that's been an issue. >> Yes, great question. So, um, AV, yes, it is fully equipped. Um, and some of our boards and commissions meet there. So, it would be tight as PR said around that table. There would be enough space for us. The public comment is definitely a little tight. You've you've sat in no public comment back there. Um, but it is equipped for the meetings. And then, um, whenever we meet, not on our regular date, um, we can do that whenever we want. we just posted as a special meeting. So, typically I reach out to the board members, make sure we have um quorum for meeting on a different date. So, we could reschedu those Thanksgiving um or November, December, but you're right, we would run into more holiday conflicts and probably need to schedule around those. So, yeah, great point. Uh, is it necessary for us to state the specific rule in our rules and regulations? Is this a procedural thing that >> That's a good question. It is in all of the rules and regulations. Um, and it may be for awareness of the public, but I can ask our clerks about that. So, yeah. Question. >> Well, it seems overly specific. >> Yes. unnecessarily specific would be my take on it, but I mean we still have to decide what we want to do. But I I would vote for not having it stated in there or or put in some weasel words in there and declare uh the preferred location or as determined by uh staff. But then I guess there's complications. Well, how do you make that announcement uh in compliance with others and all that? Is that is that a complication? >> If um the way we usually do it is if we're not meeting in our regular room, we note it as a special meeting and that's just shared in the agenda that goes out. So, that's the public notice. Um, I can ask if we could not list our meeting location and keep the second Wednesday and if Steelhead happens to be open some second Wednesdays, we meet there instead and rotate back and forth. Are you interested in more kind of having a variet being a little more flexible on where we meet or >> um Well, so I I support the spirit of this recommendation and I do prefer the other room mostly just because it's closer to me. I support it, but I also would support being less specific in the official rules and regulations to allow more flexibility, >> okay, >> in the future if needed. So for example, if we were having a presentation that had we sometimes we have three or four presenters >> and it's on a topic that we expect three or four public people to speak. Well then maybe we would choose to bring it here because of that size of the potential crowd and we'd have that option. >> Yeah. or if it's a more kind of intimate conversation like on the climate plan, we're gonna have a lot of dialogue, that other space can be nice. >> Yeah. >> Okay. I can definitely speak to the clerks about that and bring back more information in June or July about that. >> Thanks, Tom. Alex, I think you're next. >> There we go. Um just leading and adding on to Tom's comment about if and and project's comments about if we do anticipate more people coming um if we have extra presenters or if we anticipate more public comment what is the flexibility of the Tibbitz manner being open on that fourth Wednesday so that if we needed to shift to that instead of rescheduling um to a date that could accommodate is is Tibbitz typically open also on the fourth Wednesdays of each month that we could shift easily. >> I'll check on that. I'm not sure. The top of my head, I don't believe that there are any boards or commissions that meet on a fourth Wednesday, but I can definitely check on that. Yeah, in that case I'd be if it's more flexible and we could potentially move to Tibbitz easily, then I'd be fine with listing the steelhead room as our regular meeting space and then adjusting if needed um to accommodate those larger meetings. >> Great. Yeah, >> thank you. Alex Rush, do you have another comment? >> Yeah. So, I just had one thing to add uh to what Tom said. um Stacy because I have a little bit of concern with moving you know keeping the flexibility and moving the room back and forth. I mean once in a while it's fine but if it's because every time you know when you're running late for the meeting and people might miss where to go. If it's straightforward here it is every time I'll just come here because I remember last month you had a special meeting and you sent out the email like three times that it's not on Wednesday, it's not on Wednesday, it's not on Thursday, it's on Thursday and I still, you know, got on the meeting on Wednesday and I'm like nobody's here. So these things happen. >> Yeah. >> So you know it may be a little bit of nightmare for you guys if there is a on a regular basis back and forth. That's once in a while it's fine once you choose the room for as they mentioned for public comment. If you want to come here it's different but >> for the more or less part it should be one steady. I think >> Shannon did you have a comment or is that good addressable? >> Well I was just wondering if there was um flexibility since size of the room keeps coming up. Is there flexibility for overflow like or have you guys had meetings there where people a lot of people came and you they could wait on >> Yeah. Not that room is really >> there are there are three rows of maybe four chairs in the back but it's it's tight. Yeah. You don't >> I've been in meetings in there where it's pretty full of people and it it is workable. Um but it it can get full if you have um a lot of presenters. So for example, the student presentations coming up um you know if they're guests and parents and whatnot show up it could get tight that instance. >> Yeah, >> I'll add a little bit if nobody else has any comments. Um hearing what everybody's saying, I have similar concerns. I'm not a big fan of the fourth Wednesday. >> Okay, >> I'll just put that out there right away. for Susie's concern. So, it's going to get difficult towards the end of the year. >> Um, >> and then, uh, doing the steel head room for all of our meetings. Yeah, I don't think we're going to have enough room on some of our bigger meetings. And I don't like the idea, like Project says, of going back and forth, back and forth, and not having a dedicated home. What if we use the steelhead room for our special meetings? >> Yeah. >> Or as needed. >> Yep. >> We can try it out a little longer. That way, we don't have to vote on anything tonight. Yeah, we just leave it as is. >> That sounds Yeah, I'm hearing enough questions, some concerns. Maybe we table this, we'll book that for special meetings, maybe when we want to have a little bit more dialogue, engagement, and we can if anyone wants to bring this back up throughout the year and look at switching um or we can revisit next year too. >> I work with everybody. Okay. You're still gonna bike a little bit further Tom. >> Okay, great. Well, we will move forward with the clerks changing the election timeline. We will hold off on changing the meeting date or room. If anyone is interested in bringing that back up, please let me know. Um, and I can dig into a couple of these questions in the meantime so we have that information. Okay. I can find the right presentation. Okay, so next topic um work. Okay, great. Um, next topic is, uh, Don and Alex had just asked with the beginning of this next year of the environmental board, could we do a brief recap of, uh, what the board worked on over the last year? So, I have some very basic slides, uh, quick run through and overview, and I definitely invite, uh, board members to jump in and share other insight or thoughts that they have. um on any of the topics that we went through over the last year. Jeez, it went into PowerPoint live and we'll see things. Um all right so just as a little background for our new members refresher for the existing members the way this board develops our work plan is um board members can propose ideas throughout the year of topics that they want to discuss or that they want staff to bring to them. Um, and then a lot of the work plan development though is staff uh bringing the priorities of the administration and council to the board. And so what David and I do is pull together that draft work plan usually November or December of each year. We share that with the environmental board for one or two rounds of input. We've been doing kind of a thumbs up approval in January. Um and then that is that draft work plan is submitted to the mayor and council. Um we don't do necessarily a formal vote on it because I consider it a working draft. Things shift throughout the year if um staff aren't quite ready to bring the topics because of some delays for particular reasons um or something new and urgent pops up. Um it is always a kind of a working um moving work plan. Um I have been I forgot the last few months but um now uh working to make sure that work plan uh the most current version is attached to your agenda. So you'll see where that is um each month. Um so over it's been a busy year. Um over the last year we started last spring by revisiting uh city tree code. Uh about three years ago, this board was very very involved in helping reshape the city's land use code and the tree code as part of that. Um as the city had implemented the land use code, they found that some parts of the tree code just didn't work, weren't making sense, and so they wanted to revise it. So it really did work um on the ground. So this board provided a lot of input to that process. Um we've also started each June having students come to talk about the projects that they've been working with us on. Um we have usually a number of Gibson interns that are working with us. We've had um university capstone projects from the UDub. Uh we work with a group called sustainability ambassadors. So you'll have an opportunity next month to hear from several of those students as well. Um David presented uh quite a bit on our municipal projects that were underway last year. Um our decarbonization assessment. Um several of the projects that were underway such as solar that you'll hear a little bit more about tonight. Um we also had a bit of a deep dive into one of our community programs that I'll also talk about later tonight, our clean buildings program. The board provided input to our buildings and infrastructure policy. This was a 20 year old policy, 22 year old policy >> um that we updated and it was approved by council in November. Uh we are now working to implement that policy and we'll be bringing updates um throughout the years. Uh and then a lot of our work last fall and uh into 26 was uh focused on providing input to the climate action plan update early in the fall was really providing feedback to staff on process beginning to review actions. Um and then I'll talk about in a minute what they've worked on in 26. Um and then we also do an annual report each year. So you all will have an opportunity to do a survey, self analysis survey. What was your experience like? What do you think about um how the board operated this year? Um and then we pull those results into a report that also lists out our accomplishments to council. Uh moving into 26, uh we have had many meetings this year so far, uh focused on reviewing the climate action plan update, going section by section, um really digging deep into targets and actions. Uh David presented on the 2024 greenhouse gas emissions inventory. And then over the last couple months, we've heard from um staff on a storm water management plan update as well as our transportation improvement program uh which is our list of all the transportation pro projects that are anticipated over the next six years. Uh what we see upcoming over the next few months. Uh next month we'll hear from several uh students on the various projects they've been working on the last few years. Later this summer we'll get into some of the waste programming and policies that our solid waste analyst is working on. Uh we'll be meeting with our urban forester uh to get an update on implementation of the urban forest management plan. Uh each year we look at the city's natural systems checklist. Um this is looking at how city code is doing at protecting the environment. Um and then we'll be starting to implement the the hopefully adopted climate action plan and be sharing with you our progress on uh actions within the plan. >> Questions as you go. >> That's the end of the slide. So I invite other board members to share other things that you remember from this last year and then happy to take any questions too. >> Let's grab Shre's comment first. >> Oh my question was um so when these meetings come up the waste management or urban forest management plan implementation of course we'll have a chance to review it before the thing comes up before the presentation happens. But what do they look for? I mean, would we have a chance to discuss before the meeting meeting actually happens? >> Oh, um, do we have a chance to discuss before the meeting? Not typically. Um, there's always the opportunity board members can reach out to staff with questions that they have to try and get clarity before the meeting, but really the meeting is the opportunity to have that discussion, provide feedback. We try to work with staff to have very specific questions they're asking the board and typically it's policy related for this board. Um sometimes staff are just bringformational. So most of what David and I are presenting next isformational tonight. Um but often there's discussion questions. So >> Got it. >> Yeah. Does that make sense? Yeah. >> Makes sense. Yeah. >> See it goes. Thank you. >> Yeah. Yeah. And there's always the opportunity to ask for one-on-one meetings or a smaller group meeting. We did that recently um with one of the the city codes and some couple board members that were particularly interested. So, >> yeah, the staff are very responsive, Vanessa. Um but I would ask that you go through Stacy if you want to reach out to any of the staff just so she's aware of it. But yeah, I've reached out to several of them over the years and they're more than happy to meet with you and talk about details on the systems checklist. Stacy, >> yes, >> for the last couple of years, we'd asked for specific examples. >> See if Minnie can bring >> specific projects. >> Yes, >> that one's been a work in process progress since I started, I think, on what exactly we're trying to get at. So, yep. any um reflections from other board members on topics we worked on this year or other questions folks have >> so I don't know if we had any field trips >> oh yes we did a field trip last summer yeah >> oh yeah >> um I have been talking with Dan about doing one in July up to um at Tiger Mountain to talk about the uh forest management agement plan and maybe touch a little bit on wildfire preparedness up there. Um so we're trying to do a little more field trips or provide opportunities for board members to get >> I think we did one more um David was there >> yeah flex >> I I don't remember the name >> the is creek restoration >> project so that we did and I think in summer we did >> also we have in past couple of years we have also offered the recology tours which I've taken at one time um and I just wanted to had um means it the IAP implementation just is shown as one bullet but it took hours and hours and number of special meetings and all kinds of things. So that has been the highlight for 2025 I would say for the environmental board and uh there are a lot of small pieces which go in ICAP like the sustain they had the climate resilience plan or emergency prepared plan and there was a lot of stuff which the city did in conjunction which we heard about in the environmental board meetings. um they had a lot of um um education and community outreach events where they actually train people for the emergency preparedness. So um a lot of it was in ICAP what comes under the ICAP umbrella but there were lot of different pieces which went into it and which we discussed last year. >> Yeah. I just want to mention the field trip aspect. >> Sorry, I blurred it out. >> At the same time, >> not a problem. >> Any questions? >> I don't know if you can. Do you want to test it out? >> I cannot. >> Okay, >> never mind. >> We'll figure that out. Okay. And if any of the newer members, if you guys do have questions about anything we've discussed in the past, if it starts to come up, feel free to reach out um to any of us and and just ask, "Hey, can I get a a heads up on this?" You know, give me a little bit of background. We're happy to help out. >> All right. So, I'm going to do a a hopefully pretty brief presentation on climate action in city operations. Um just as a a quick introduction for new members especially uh my name is David Rei. I'm the sustainability coordinator with the city. Been here about three and a half years uh now. Um and uh I manage a lot of the programs, projects, efforts uh related to city operations and and climate action um directly with um many of the other departments of the city. So I work very closely with our facilities team, our fleet team, our emergency manager uh and others to um think about how we can try and infuse projects across the city with uh a climate lens. Um I have my background in environmental policy uh through my graduate degree. I've worked in environmental education, land conservation, solar, uh, sol statewide solar programs, um, transportation justice, couple other areas. So, um, I'm quite a generalist and I think as you'll see today, I work on a pretty general wide ranging uh, set of projects as well. So, so the goal of uh the presentation today is to highlight um what we've been doing uh around municipal climate actions for new uh and returning uh board members. I've talked about many of these things in passing before um but I believe this will be my first presentation where I'm trying to kind of highlight it all together. So, um, especially as we're thinking about the updated IAP that's, uh, hopefully going to get adopted this summer, um, this presentation is really, uh, meant to to show where we are, where we are when it when it comes to leading by example in climate action at the city. Um, and, uh, and kind of where we're going to go uh, in the next couple years. Some specific questions just um, for interest. we have uh done our best to try and communicate a little bit uh to the public around what we're doing with uh municipal climate actions to uh probably varied success. And so, uh, I think just in in our, uh, evergoing, uh, goals of improving how we're communicating and thinking about, uh, priorities in climate action communication, um, throughout this presentation, um, and at the end, we'd love to hear any thoughts on how we can improve or or, um, continue to to, um, prioritize climate communication specifically related to municipal climate actions. So, uh, board members who have been on the board for a little while have probably seen this graph before. For for those new, this is our, uh, municipal operations greenhouse gas inventory from 2024. There's about a year and a half lag, uh, between when we get our, uh, inventories completed. Um, this uh, inventory is the second municipal greenhouse gas inventory we've completed. Our first one was in 2022. And what I'm highlighting here really is that uh buildings which are kind of the yellow emissions uh and transportation which does encompass the purple as well as the blue are our largest sources of greenhouse gas emissions. And so uh at city operations and so um that is really where we've been focusing um our efforts in terms of trying to um decarbonize our city facilities, our fleet, things like that. And and I'll dig into that a little bit more. Um, there's a lot of data that goes into this, which buildings we have that are on natural gas, which are not, right? Our pool is one of our largest natural gas users in the city, our on-road fleet. Um, uh, we have about 150 to 170 vehicles in our fleet. Um and uh you know a lot of those emissions are coming from those vehicles that are driving longer distances uh versus the ones that are kind of just boopping around town very for very small uh amounts of miles each year. So um there's definitely a lot of nuance in this. And then I'll also mention right employee commute is 26% of our uh municipal operations greenhouse gas emissions. And so that's um an added one um that I'll touch on in this, but that is particularly difficult to uh address since most of these emissions are things that the city controls. Employee commute is one uh we have a little less control over since our employees get to the city um on their own. So, we're going to go into some depth now in a minute on uh some specific projects, but um I wanted to mention kind of why we're focusing on municipal operation uh uh climate action. And so, the first bit is in the climate action plan and in the comprehensive plan. Um it's stated that the city needs to lead by example when it comes to climate action. We don't want to be telling our community to take climate action, install heat pumps, do this work without necessarily showing that we as the city are uh are also committed to making those same efforts. Additionally, some projects can be good long-term financial investments. So we are trying to find projects that save energy um that generate uh electricity um that you know transitioning some vehicles to electric uh that have uh those long-term financial benefits over the years. They can provide those savings for us over maybe a traditional or a like forlike replacement. Um the city is a long-term entity. We're not going anywhere. And so one of the benefits there is that we can think long term about those financial investments and say okay even if it we're not going to see the financial return in two years that's okay if we'll see it um over over many years. Additionally projects can have additional staff and community benefits. So one of the ones I'll share uh in the future uh uh later in this slide is um related to battery landscaping equipment. Right. Um some of our uh efforts throughout the city uh can just improve um the air quality for staff in buildings. They can improve uh reduce noise in vehicles or when using landscaping equipment which can make our staff uh staff's job that much better. And additionally, there's community benefits by reducing pollution in our community uh by taking uh gas powered cars off the road, things like that. And then the final piece I'll mention, right, is many projects are sustainable versions of projects we were going to do anyways, right? So, uh, some of what I'll talk about are, for instance, updating our HVAC systems that are at the end of life and need to happen anyways. And so by Stacy and myself getting involved, we get to say, "Let's choose the climate friendly version instead of um uh maybe replacing it with another natural gas HVAC system." And we like to try and bring money to the table through grants and other programs. And I'll talk about that in a little bit as well to make these possible. So digging in a little bit to uh project highlights on buildings. Stacy, I don't know if we can watch these videos. Um, okay. >> They're in the packet. >> They're in the packet. I encourage you to take a look because they are representative of some of what we've tried to do related to communication. This one in particular is a short video our uh city put out on um the pool covers. So, showing our pool covers getting deployed for some of the first times across our pool. But over the last couple years, we spent a lot of time planning some of these energy efficiency projects, some of these decarbonization projects, renewable energy projects, and now we've been, uh, really trying to implement them across the city. And so, um, we just completed our Pickering Barn solar project, which we've talked about, and some folks were at the ribbon cutting for that. Um and then we're still in the midst of a project installing uh solar and battery storage at the Isiqua Senior Center. And that because this battery storage is a very large complex project. Um but these projects in combination will uh increase the amount of solar generation on city properties five times. Um before we only had one city facility that had solar which was fire station 72 installed in 2011. Uh we also have a couple solar uh projects in the transmission line, some initial designs, structural analyses, things like that. So that we're always looking for that extra bit of funding and and next step where we can move forward. We also have a number of different projects to reduce natural gas use at city facilities. This is a big one. As you saw, it was one of the biggest sources of emissions at the city. So the pool covers is a great example of that. Um it's hard to make them look as cool as they are. Um but they are basically blankets that go over the pool every night. Um and they prevent uh heat from escaping from the pool. And so by keeping that heat in the pool, you don't have to run your your uh heaters as long. You're reducing any uh chemicals getting um evaporated out, reducing water evaporation. Um and so it just improves the efficiency of the pool. And as we've talked about before, pool electrification, which would be the best way to get rid of natural gas at the pool, is very costly and very difficult. And so this is a great interim step as we're thinking about the uh pool full decarbonization over the long term. We also have some insulation projects, weatherization projects, and then a number of heat pump projects. And I wanted to mention uh for Tom one even that we're applying for at the Isiqua Depot um applying for grants there to try and uh help preserve history in a way that also supports decarbonization. So all of those projects in com combination are expected to reduce our natural gas use between 20 to 25%. Um which is uh very exciting. We are also working with our facilities team to improve their training so that they can take a more active role and uh think critically about how we can save energy throughout city facilities. All of this being said, we have a number of challenges remaining. So we have some very expensive projects on the horizon, expensive and complex projects like full decarbonization. Um we have a number of natural gas uh HVAC systems at our public works campus that will be very expensive to replace uh when it is time to do that. We've uh been dealing with some tight time frames. So we've been seeking funding um and trying to implement projects uh that have timelines associated with them. And so we're doing our best to navigate these complex changes that uh we're getting better at, but that are uh a bit of a departure from how we normally operate. And so that has uh been a bit of a challenge. We also have a really busy facilities team and especially looking forward, you might have seen we have a new city hall in consideration. Um and so our facilities team is pulled in a lot of different directions. Um, and so I do my best to work with them and support them and and work with them and and we have really wonderful part partners on that facilities team, but especially looking forward there's a lot of facilities needs and so we uh work really hard to advocate for these sustainability projects where we can. Next slide. Fleet equipment. So the other big piece here is our electric fleet or our our city fleet. Um, over the last couple of years, we've installed 17 uh uh EV chargers uh last year. Um, yes, 17 EV charges. I was counting my head. Um, and then we've been doing landscape equipment. So, that video was a um a goofy video that's uh showing kind of the difference between the gas powered landscaping equipment versus the quiet landscaping equipment. and our parks team kind of had fun demonstrating what that looks like in a video form. Um, we've had uh eight new electric v uh vehicles added to our fleet and we have a couple of additional ones coming up. Um, and then I'll also say we're looking forward to um continuing to expand that. I was on a call with our fleet manager today and we're in the process of identifying those next level of uh vehicles that we're we're working to electrify. We um are working also to um kind of continue to to knock on the challenge of police electrification. Um that's one of those more challenging uh fleet electrification questions um along with medium and heavy duty vehicles. those snow plows are uh difficult to electrify and we want to make sure that um as we're undertaking these types of projects that we have the infrastructure, the planning um and the support necessary so that we uh can continue to provide uh the services to the city necessary even with this transition. Some challenges on this front um are charger management, right? charge electric vehicle chargers are um they've been around for a long time, but it's a rapidly changing market of electric vehicle chargers and electric vehicles. And so managing chargers that might not be working as well as they should has taken up a fair amount of my time and we're still working through those growing pains of adding new chargers to the city and trying to troubleshoot problems when they've arisen. Similarly, the EV market has changed. So some of the best EVs that we were very excited about purchasing that we have purchased uh like the Ford Lightning are no longer on the market and so we are trying to scramble and say okay what is the other option that we can look at here instead. Um, and then I'll also say, right, one of our other continued challenges is is continuing to work with change management of our staff who aren't used to electric vehicles and making sure that they feel comfortable, supported, and and recognize that they can continue to do their job in electric vehicles and then making sure we're getting the right ones for them. Take a quick pause here for a quick question from PJ. >> Yeah. So, I have one question related to the EV. >> Yeah. um text. So I did not know that EV charges is such a big problem. So how often like you know how how often or how frequently do you have to replace or repair you know the standard EV charges. I'm not talking about the superchargers or something, right? >> I'm I'm guessing you're talking about the regular chargers. >> Yeah. So, these are city-owned chargers, which are um if you're familiar with EV chargers, they come in kind of level one, which is just your regular outlet, level two, which is slowish charging, but can charge your vehicle overnight. They are those right there on the screen, and then kind of the fast chargers that charge your car in like 20 minutes. We don't have any of those fast chargers right now. We've been relying on the level two chargers, which works for our vehicle fleet at the time. Um, we have not had to replace any chargers that are damaged or not working. Instead, the main issue has been, you know, charger network failures. So, they're, you know, something is wrong with our software that that's helping run these chargers or uh the charger something is going on inside uh the software or hardware of the charger itself that is causing um it to charge slower than it should. Um, and so it's we have not had to replace any yet. Um, fingers crossed we don't have to replace any of the ones that we just installed. Um, but it has been more of um, continuing to try and communicate with all of the service organizations that are intended to help us manage these chargers. And I'll kind of liken it with, you know, when you're reaching out to your internet company or something and you're trying to get somebody on the phone and it's just not quite as easy as you might wish it was to kind of troubleshoot and fix some of these problems. >> Um, thank you for that, David. And I have a few other questions, but I can wait till the presentation is over. They're general questions. >> Perfect. Tom, do you have Eevee question? >> Uh, yeah. Well, I just wanted to comment that so I recently replaced my level two charger. It was a perfectly good charger, but I wanted to participate with the PSC Flex CV program and my charger was not compatible in the program and they have, you know, a rebate, $300 rebate on on a new one that is compatible. probably you don't qualify as a city entity, but any maybe there is some deal and maybe maybe they're on maybe they have vetted these well enough that they're you know a good choice anyway. But anyway, that was just a thought. You should look into what PSC is recommending for their flex program and uh maybe that aligns with your needs. >> Absolutely. I'll take a closer look at the Flex EV program in particular. Um PSSE has been an active participant in helping us electrify. We've um gotten a lot of funds from them. We intend to get more funds from them. Um and uh uh they have been a a good partner in supporting that. >> Well, just in terms of the philosophy of the Flex EV, it would be well for the city to be on that program as well, regardless of whether they subsidize. >> Absolutely. the Chargers. It I like the idea of it anyway. That's why I took action on it. Uh but there haven't been any Flex EV events since I went online with this. So I I I haven't seen the whole process, but um I it sounds like a good idea. >> Excellent. All right. Next slide. >> All right. So beyond specific projects, we've also been active in the policy space. So, we have a staff EV charging policy. Staff can charge at our EV chargers so long as there's not a fleet vehicle there. Um, we have passed a sustainable purchasing policy that we've been working to implement. We've updated some municipal waste policies related to uh making sure there's composting and waste audits and things like that at city facilities. And then also what was mentioned earlier as I presented last year on our updated sustainable building and infrastructure policy um which got passed last November and Stacy and I are working to implement that right now. And so we are we have uh tenatively uh identified some projects with our public works team that will be triing the envision framework which is shown on the right hand side of the screen. Um, and it's, you know, if you're familiar with LEA, it's a a framework that allows you to get points for projects based on the sustainable sustainability principles of those projects. We are not seeking certification on these projects at this point, but really assessing our projects against the framework to understand how how would we do if we were to use it. Um, what are the areas that we can try and push further on some of these infrastructure projects? And part of the idea here is really thinking beyond the building, beyond um the vehicles themselves. How do we think about sustainability when it comes to uh complex infrastructure projects um uh that uh are not quite that might not be as straightforward on on kind of the the the big changes we might want to make. So, um, we're excited to dig into that and hoping to get, um, some lessons learned over the LA next couple of years on on triing that process out. And so, I anticipate you'll get a presentation from me on that in the future. Next slide. All right. Project funding um, to support these programs. I counted up we've gotten around two almost $3 million to help support these programs. um everything from the micro grid project uh to heat pumps at the community center to um PSSE incentives to help us put in uh insulation etc. the external funds covered up to 100% of total project costs such as in the case of the micro grid senior center um and as low as I think 8% on some energy efficiency projects right and I think what's again important to note here is that uh many of these projects are projects that needed to happen anyways and so by working with the sustainability team working with uh the facilities team we've been really active trying to leverage those external funds so that it becomes an easy choice for the city to take the sustainability route instead of the um you know like for like natural gas boiler or something else. And so um we've been really active on this front. Um we've had a lot of help from the climate commitment act uh through this from Puget Sound Energy and we're uh still actively looking. I will be submitting another couple grants in the next few weeks. So uh definitely active there as well. Yeah, I'm curious about um kind of the the overall budget for um the sustainability and environmental programs that you've been discussing and and working on um and how this 3 million fits into that. Um I'm curious whether um you know for uh decarbonization projects like replacing HVAC systems at end of life um whether that is coming from uh what would be earmarked for sustainability or for uh you know typical facilities budget. >> Excellent. I I might have Stacy talk about the full budget uh sustainability budget question, but um for many of the facilities projects, so things like um uh an upcoming project where we'll be putting heat pumps into the community center, the costs for that project beyond the grants that we've been able to secure comes from our facilities fund. So there is and then you know for example the um uh this includes some money we got for supporting our transition to electric vehicles from the elective pay tax credits before those expired. Um the the uh balance of funds beyond the elective pay tax credits we got came from the departments and the fleet replacement fund for those projects. Right. So there's kind of a mix. There are some others like the solar project at Pickering Barn where sustainability put some of our own funds into that. Um and so this the the projects that this almost 3 million supports supports um uh augments our budget that we're putting into projects as well as broader city budget as well. Stacey, you want to highlight kind of the full budget? >> Yeah, I can touch on the budget briefly. We'll probably dig into budget in June or July as the city embarks on its budget process. So, um, as of now, sustainability's been really fortunate. We have a dedicated funding source. It comes from our waste hauler. Um, it's called an administrative fee. It's basically, um, a small fee that residents or, um, not only residents, but businesses play pay on their ecology bill. Um, that goes into a fund. It's varied from about 600 to 900,000 per year that it generates. It's a flexible percentage um for the administrative fee that council can change over time and we share that those funds with our solid waste program. Um we've also used it to fund like additional communication staff. Um we generally use it for more program type work. Um but we have tried to budget for some capital projects the last couple years. So like the Pickering Barn, we paid pretty much exclusively out of our budget with a few um we had a small award and a few other things, but um we have been trying to put in kind of one or two capital budgets, some of the EV charging going in um to that budget, but typically it's covered more kind of the programmatic type projects. So that's where we are now. >> Yeah. >> Can I ask one quick question on the funding here? So I had a question on that too. I mean this this number looks good but so how has it been in 2025? I was just wondering if this is something which was you know which the grants and stuff you got before or has it been steady source of grants for you or have you had difficulty recently? >> Yes. >> Some of the policy changes at the federal level and stuff too. It's a good question and and I'll clarify this is only for municipal projects Stacy and in your presentation we'll talk about grants also for community projects. Um we I would say we have not seen a slowdown in uh external funding to support municipal projects as of right now. Um we have not really tried uh super hard to get external funding from the federal government. It's been mostly state state and and utility funds from uh the climate commitment act which is still in operation and so um as of right now we have not seen large slowdowns. you know, I think we are um prepared and and you know, eager to take advantage of funds while it does exist, recognizing that there are existing and and potentially future budget challenges that the state will face and that you know um different entities will face. And so we are trying to take advantage of these funds as whenever we can as soon as we can recognizing they have the potential to go away or reduce in the future. >> So seems like you do have funds for at least the immediate future to continue with the projects, right? That was >> our current projects we have funding for and we are >> because especially for solar solar panels and stuff these are long-term projects, right? So I means you need to have funds to at least till the break even point to continue the project. Right. So >> one you know for example on solar the federal elective tech tax pay credits that the cities can get um that one actually expires later than the EV1 does. And so this uh we can still get 30% of solar projects covered uh through July next year through June next year. um battery projects, we can actually keep getting a percent of that covered up through 2032 still. Um and so there are um still some of those existing ones moving forward. Um solar projects, it's a little bit, you know, we'll see how uh what other external funds we can find um once the elective pay tax credit goes away, but um we're still optimistic on on a couple options. >> That's good to know. And yeah, I was just going to mention the Climate Commitment Act was designed to bring in less money and provide more grants over time as emissions reduction go down. Um, and so we definitely, as Dave mentioned, anticipate seeing less and less grant opportunities over time. We have an action in the 2026 IAP update for looking at a more sustainable funding source. So a lot of cities have been doing in-depth studies of what are their options. So we very much anticipate over the next two years having those conversations with you allunities. >> Thank you Tommy. >> Yeah. Um I do apologize if it was already mentioned, but um what can you provide some examples of uh projects that CCA dollars have helped fund and sort of on top of that um has it been a pretty good experience uh for the city uh getting projects um you know to qualify for CCA dollars? What's that been like? >> Yeah, that's a great question. So um we have Sorry, >> so many projects. We have a lot of projects that have gotten CCA funds. And so, uh, you know, an example is we've had we've used CCA funds for a lot of the design and planning around some of these projects. So, even though we might know a project needs to happen, we need to get the feasibility study and the, you know, the permitting and the 100% design and everything else so it can get through permitting. Um, and CCA has helped support, uh, the Pickering Barn. solar feasibility study, the uh senior center solar and micro grid feasibility study. It's supported um couple the fuel transition assessment. Um >> heat pump, our heat pump program. I'll talk about we have three grants with PSSE right now that are all CCA dollars. We have um we have our grants and awards list, so we're happy to share that out. Um yeah, we pretty much have tried to pursue almost every CCA related grant um if we're at least somewhat eligible. >> I also we would not have been able to make the uh projects that we have done happen without CCA funding uh generally so or at least the same amount of projects >> and in ter I think you asked Tommy too a little bit about the experience. It's really varied by the grant. I think for some of them um some grants department of commerce have tried to make it very streamlined where they have almost an allocation to cities or jurisdictions. So application is very streamlined. The reporting is very streamlined. A lot of the projects David has pursued like the the micro grid it's very um in-depth applications reporting process. So it's really dependent on the particular program grant program um how much of a capacity lift and kind of the experience of managing that grant and being an applicant for my >> I will say generally much better than federal grants though. So you know no matter what uh they're not federal grants that's good in terms of ease on our staff time. >> Questions? >> Yeah. Um thank you. Um question is um we can take it off different time if there's not as in the context I know the context here is all on municipal projects right yeah my question was more around community projects right non-munipal community projects I'm assuming those are larger in scope and bigger perhaps my question is uh twofold basically um one is I don't think I I assume it's a public works and the fleet and the different department they take more ownership of it and in the planning and execution ution of it. Right? question is um how much of a say do you do we have for a sustainability team into their planning into their um setting the parameters around um what to buy and how to buy how to execute um especially from the point of view of emissions reductions resiliency and that's what your focus would be and and and last related thing is what are the typical challenges that you've seen again we can take it off in different time since it's not municipal projects but I'm curious Yeah. So, what I'll say is on communitywide projects, Stacy will talk about that has a a separate presentation kind of in a minute. And and I will say a lot of those projects, right, recognizing our community emissions are the largest source of our emissions, right? That's where um we have a lot of funding going, right, is for those communitywide programs. A lot of these municipal programs are are helpful for us partially because we have control over what's going to happen when a system needs to be replaced or something like that. on how we how the board can kind of uh uh have a say and an impact on kind of what these different departments are doing. Um I would say a lot of that comes through the advocacy in the climate action plan and the climate action plan update as well as the policies that we've brought. So for instance um when the uh sustainable purchasing policy, sustainable building and infrastructure policy have come to the board as well as the IAP itself have come to the board um incorporating strong language related to sustainability and climate action into those policy level pieces. then assuming passed by council, then go down and help direct what public works and parks and facilities are going to end up doing with their dollars. And then you know on the side uh Stacy and I have worked very hard to kind of build those relationships with those departments so that if they have any question or any opportunity they come to us if not first at least second or third so we can kind of come up with uh solutions that that do kind of check those sustainability boxes. Um and then what was the second question? basically the kind of challenges you've had push and uh I know it's very situation contextual depends on the project but >> uh yes all sorts of different challenges from design challenges to you know structural issues of buildings to um I think some of the big ones are balancing uh all of the different trade-offs and priorities that go into any given project right some projects need to happen past. Some projects uh don't have the budget uh for kind of the ideal sustainability option we want to go down. Um sometimes uh projects uh we just we need to put funds and and staff time and effort in other directions, right? And so, uh, we are an active city with a lot of really wonderful folks on our staff and, uh, those many folks across the city are are, um, uh, working hard and and don't have a whole lot of extra capacity. And so, uh, I think those have been some of the challenges that we've been working hard to address and and sometimes successfully sometimes uh less successfully, but is is overcoming, uh, capacity challenges, funding issues, things like that to make sure that these projects actually happen. And I will say like some of these projects uh we might go into them thinking they're going to be nice and simple and instead it takes a good portion of my time plus our facilities time plus our fleet manager's time etc. And so um those capacity and funding issues are real uh real challenges there. >> Anything else you want? >> No. >> Good stuff. >> Thank you. >> Awesome. And I think I'm near the end but just what comes next finishing projects underway. We don't want to leave anything kind of hanging. So, we're going to make sure we finish our current projects. We're trying to maintain our existing decarbonization projects. That's talking about some of our easy chargers and things like that. We don't want to make a or our solar system. We don't want to put it up and then just say wipe our hands of it and don't check on it in for five years, right? So, we want to maintain what we're doing. Um, we are going to be looking at uh our third round of EV purchases and EV charging expansion. Um, we have our first round. We have chargers ready to go. Um but uh we want to make sure that we are as positioned as poss well positioned as possible for the EV transition. Um and then I will also say some major building retrofit planning. So thinking about our new city hall, thinking about transitioning our existing city hall and police department to a full police department. There's going to be work at those facilities for those uh efforts. And so thinking about how can we do that uh sustainability and incorporate sustainability and principles into those projects where we can. So those are some of the next pieces. Finally, feedback and question from the board. These are just some of what I posed at the beginning. Um if you have any questions generally about what I've talked about, I'm happy to answer them. If you're really excited to dive into data or or projects specifically with me, send me an email. I'm happy to also do that as well. always happy to meet folks um and chat about this, but we are also interested in hearing about how we can better talk about um our municipal projects. They're these things that take a lot of my time, a lot of our city time. Um and they're kind of it's it's a little difficult to talk about an insulation project or a pool cover project. And so any suggestions, ideas are are really valued so we can think about how to lead by example and and communicate that as well. So thank you. >> Thanks David Raj. I think you're up first. >> Yeah. Uh so David I have two questions. So the first one is um you said there were 26% emissions by employee commute right in your greenhouse gas accounting and that seems to be a huge amount uncontrolled by the city per se. Um I was just curious to see how that compares with the neighboring cities because if you have looked at that because I know you do look at what typically Belleview, Redmond or you know no Kwami or other cities do and I was just curious how does it compare? >> A great question. It's been a little while since I've specifically looked at those numbers at other cities. Um I know so the nearby enter uh east side cities that we've compared to um the ones that have better public transit access generally have a smaller employee commute greenhouse gas emissions percentage. So, you know, think about Belleview, right? A lot of or at least many staff are having an easier time at least biking in or taking public transit in, especially with the two-line extension. Um, that includes Redmond now. Uh, now that that's uh that project has passed, Mercer Island, right? Um we I think we've seen more similar employee commute numbers to cities that are kind of a little bit further uh removed from Seattle and and might have a little bit um less full um transportation and and bike networks connecting to where people live. So >> um and the other question I had was um how many years is typically a break even period for solar projects because you know when does the actual capital investment you know >> meets the efficiency for the benefits or the savings you will have right per se energy savings is it typically set I I was curious how much is it municipal So >> or the city projects because >> that will drive because the capital investments will be big that will drive the funding or the efficiency or the operation of the project I would say. >> So uh it varies depending on the project. So for the Pickering Barn project I think we're expecting uh payback in I think it was like 12 to 14 years. Um and those solar panels are set to operate for 25 plus years hopefully. Um the senior center project is fully grant funded. So that's payback day one. As soon as it's turned on, we start making money off of it compared to where we were before. Um future projects, it's going to depend a little bit on which grant funds and which additional funds we can secure for it. Um if we cannot find any additional funds, then it becomes a little more challenging to get kind of a lower payback number. >> Yeah. So the point I was getting at was and I'm I'm guessing probably you guys have some analysis in place to see what is the break even period for each project and if you have funding enough funding to you know at least continue till that time or forward right to really get the benefit out of it. >> Absolutely. >> Okay thank you >> Tom. Uh yeah, my comment is on the communication question, the what method should be used for communicating to the public about uh your work and all that. Are you familiar with uh the Redmond sustainability newsletter? It's it's pretty spiffy. It's pretty nice. Um so for example uh so a Pickering barn project um so a verb about that was set out in the Isiqua Insider as a a means of communicating to the public. Um, we don't have something comparable that as far as I'm aware comparable to the Redmond newsletter. But who all gets that Redmond newsletter? Which is the more effective way of communicating? I don't know the answer to that. I'm kind of would be worried that the spiffy thing was well only certain people are going to sign up for that. The the quiet the people who already are on board are going to sign up for that. And if and perhaps it is more effective to communicate to a broader uh segment of the citizenry if you just weave it in with the other news coming out. I don't know the answer but that would be a good study for your your interns with that question. >> Fair enough. you could do some experiments and and well anyway um I'm just offering that uh I I like their uh their messaging. Whether it's more effective than the messaging you're doing now, I do not know. >> Okay. But maybe maybe there's been some research in that uh as to what what are the most effective ways to communicate with um citizens on things like this, but I don't know the answer to that. >> Thank you. It is something we've discussed before. >> Great Gibson Act project for next year. Yeah, we've struggled with that a lot and played around with the idea of a newsletter. >> Is it getting a newspaper too? >> Yes. Yeah, >> that's option. >> Yeah. >> All right. Thanks, Tom. Jan, >> I just had sort of a basics question. I realized that I'm not familiar with um what is owns in terms of the number of buildings or the space. Is that >> question? >> Yeah. on website or the fleet or all the different departments like is there a big org chart for the city? I don't know what the scope is. >> Uh it's a great question. Um I do not believe we have a publicly available or chart. >> We could put it in the resource guide which I'll mention maybe a quick for the board resource guide. >> Yes, we can do that. It as a brief answer to the to that idea and question. We have about 280 employees, okay, >> give or take there. Um, we have 20ish buildings. Um, I have not counted specifically recently, but part of the problem here is that we own a lot of small buildings and we lease a couple of these out. So, um, in front of the community center there's like a couple little houses. We own those and we have a couple staff members working out of those. Generally, when we're talking about our climate emissions and things like that, greenhouse gas emissions, climate impact, there's a handful of larger buildings that we pay more attention to since they have a bigger impact. Community center, public works, the pool, and city hall. Those are kind of the four big ones. And then soon to be the next big one will be our new city hall. when we purchase that that will become our third largest building. Um our fleet uh I do not believe that uh is is publicly available anywhere but we have around 150 to 170 vehicles. Um they are spread out across the city which has posed a problem a challenge with uh electrification because there's not one central location where they all sit. We have building inspectors here. We have a lot of our public works staff and uh equipment over at our public works campus. Police vehicles are downtown. We have our facilities and parks shop in downtown Isiqua kind of tucked away and that's where a lot of the parks maintenance vehicles are at. Um so we have our vehicles really widely spread which is an extra challenge there. Um but our vehicles travel about 3,000 miles every year. It's the average since it's a small city. Uh they go up to about 12,000 miles uh for for the farther traveling ones. But >> yeah, thanks rough details. >> Yeah. >> Thank you. >> Um my comment was going to be on um the communication piece. um without knowing like the the means of communication that you already uh reference and and use. Um like I tend to think about it through where do people uh spend time physically and where they spend time virtually. Um physically I think um you know if you don't already have placards um or signage um it would be great to add a did you know sign at the pool um and a like look up and details on on solar at Pickering Barn. Um and then um virtually um I think there's also an opportunity to use um you know when local elected officials are sending out flyers um is there an opportunity to partner with them add a blurb in that um so that you're already taking advantage of communication that's going out. Um, and then I think, um, with regard to, uh, kind of emails, um, there's the city emails of course, um, but then there's also like third party, um, east side events emails. Um, and if there's a press release, that'd be a great place to publicize that. Um, and then, uh, you know, making a post on the Isiqua Reddit or Next Door is another way to to get the word out to folks as well. Um I think it's also helpful to communicate uh not only with the lens of sustainability um but talking about the other benefits in terms of cost efficiency um applicability to your own residence um so that we're not only speaking to the choir and folks who are interested in sustainability. >> Great. >> Excellent. Thank you for that. Thank you Susie. Um, my comment was also on the communication. Um, I definitely agree with what she was saying there about maybe like Reddit. I think a priority should definitely be having easy access if we don't want just people who are already aware of these projects to be involved and we want to spread the information. And I think in terms of making youth aware specifically with projects like the pool project, I would say the majority of people who go to the pool are like swimming teams, high schoolers, teenagers. Um, I think every high school has like newsletters or weekly showings that they show to classes. And I think schools will be happy to share information on these projects, especially since a lot of high schools have environmental clubs that would love to advocate for what this team is doing, what the sustainability team is doing. And then, I'm not sure how many of you are aware, I come from the Highlands. We have like a Highlands newsletter >> um, I think every month or every season. I think something similar to that or even having it included in the Highlands newsletter if possible would be a good way to like access the community and have a um better reach. I think a lot of people go to those kinds of newsletters or like the Highlands newsletter to understand what's going on in the community, stay updated. So again, like what was being talked about with the newsletter would be a great way to keep people updated. >> Great. Awesome. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Well, thank you all. I appreciate it. Uh that was I think one of my first presentations with all of it encompassed in one. So hopefully it wasn't too overwhelming. >> Yeah, great great questions and great input. Um we are at 8 o'clock so I will um good discussion though. So, I am going to go pretty quickly through some of our community projects. Um, and then I can absolutely bring back any of these for a deeper dive. Okay. Um, so I was just going to talk through some of our current programs that we run for the community and then what might be coming up. Of course, a lot of that may be decided as we um have the new climate action plan adopted um and some new programs that may come from that. Uh just as an overview of how we approach our community programming, um we look to the climate action plan. Um we've really followed that path that was laid out in 2021 based on the actions, policies or projects that were identified. Um we are also strategic in terms of setting up a budget that will um help support those programs. But we have also been opportunistic when needed to pursue grant opportunities. um maybe to move a program or project forward ahead of when we were planning or to shift it a little bit to meet a particular grant opportunity. We have also approached our programming with trying to focus on programs that would increase equity. So for instance, a lot of our programs um provide a higher rebate or free services for households with low income or for um seniors. We are moving forward some programs for renters this year. Um but have really tried to lead with that in a lot of our um grant applications and then how we design our programs. Um, and then another piece is we've really tried to build partnerships. And I'll I'll dig into this um the next couple slides, but looking at programs that we can run across multiple cities in order to increase um our efficiencies um or if there's other organizations that we can partner with in the community. uh as David spoke about for our own city operation emissions um very similar when we're looking at community programming as we are very focused on buildings and transportation um those are our biggest emissions also across the whole community um and so we do particular programs and projects associated with those uh we do a lot of outreach and education that is embedded within those programs but we are also out doing kind of general um education as well. Um, and then I did want to note that uh we've touched on some of this. We work a lot with our solid waste analysts, our urban forester. They are doing a ton of work on waste education. Um, really creative waste programming and policies, our green isqua, um, our forest steward programs. That's all managed by other departments. So, I'm not going to talk about those programs tonight, but they are very essential components of our climate action work. and you'll hear more about them uh throughout the year. Um so uh one of our really great opportunities is working with our neighboring cities. Um this started a bit ad hoc uh when I joined the city about four years ago. There was some shared interest. We decided to test out some shared programming. We have now developed into a formal partnership that we call the east side climate partnership. We have a interlocal agreement makes everything official. Um and it allows us to pursue grants together. We have shared staff. Um we take on different components of work. Some of us will hold a contract for the project while others might uh be leading the outreach for example. Um there's four main programs I'll touch on tonight. We have done a lot of other work with this group like our greenhouse gas emissions inventory. we did as part of this partnership. Um, but I'll touch on these four programs this evening. So, Energy Smart East Side is one of our biggest investments both in terms of the amount of city budget we put in, but we have also been very aggressive in the grant space. Um I think we're nearing say uh I will find the numbers but something around $8 million that we have um pursued and secured for this program between city budget and grants. Um but I can provide those numbers to you. Um it's one of our greatest opportunities for working with uh our residents. This program is focused on transitioning folks that are on natural gas primarily, very few folks that are still on oil on the east side, but transitioning them to electric heating um to specifically to heat pumps. We also work with households that have older inefficient electric heating. Um we are approaching our thousandth heat pump install across um the six cities. will be doing a big press release um uh in the next month or two around that. Um and this program really focus on heat pump rebates for all income levels. So, we work with heat pump distributors to have um a discount that's applied for all income levels and then we have other rebates that are funded by cities or grants or the utility um that support those in kind of a middle income as well as households that have low income. Um we have a free heat pump program for those lower income households. Um we uh sorry for the acronym here. We also had a program last year that was focused on adult family homes. So, we worked with um we actually reached out to all adult family homes across the east side um and we were able to um do heat pump transitions for uh those that were interested through a state grant program. Most recently, we've had um this newer approach where we're focused on more clusters of households and even condos. typically those that u might be Arch Housing um or King County um housing authority housing or have some proportion of the residents that live in those households. It's allowed us to work with that community and then advance 20 to 30 installs at one time. Um so often there's a discount from the distributors. um we're able to kind of focus our efforts in a more concentrated way and advance those um installs pretty quickly and uh at less cost and more efficiently. So we have two projects right now in the Isiqua Highlands um and a third I think will be coming on later this summer. We'll be doing some celebration up there this summer with one of the um associations. So, we'll um make sure the board is aware of um we are also going to be expanding the program beyond heat pumps. It was always envisioned it would go beyond heat pumps. Um where we'll be looking at weatherization and we also want to start testing out hot water heater heat pump hot water heaters as well. Um this year we're also going to be starting to work with rental properties. There's just there's it's a little bit complicated, which is why it's taken us a few years um where we need to be working with um the home owner um to get their agreement, but then we also need to have an agreement in place with the homeowner that they're not going to increase rent after we've partially funded to make these improvements to their home. So, a little bit more complicated. Um but we're excited to be rolling that out uh this year. um just drop this in here. I won't go through the data, but just to note that we are uh we have a new system in place now to really be tracking all of these installs from um what we call our boost program is our free heat pump installation. We'll start to see these big spikes when we have these um condo association projects go in. Um, we track our what used to be called our market rate, which was um kind of more the moderate income rebate. And then, um, we track any kind any distributor rebate that they offer. Um, there's usually quite a lag from the distributor's reporting, uh, issuing the rebates. Um, so sometimes we also see those boosts um, after they've submitted a a number of invoices. Um, and then we do actually track all of our permitting data. Um, so those that go outside of our program and didn't um, take advantage of one of the rebates, we are starting to track that data over the last couple years, too. So, we just know the rate of transition to uh, heat pumps in the community. Um, so this summer, I'm excited to see we should see some really big uh, bumps here from some of the projects happening in the Aqua Highlands. Um, the next program I'll talk about, this is a new partnership under the East Side Climate Partnership, our clean buildings incentive program. We did a deep dive into this program, I think last August or September. Um but in a one minute summary, there is a state law um where buildings over 20,000 square feet, including multifamily buildings, have um energy efficiency requirements to meet and they have some reporting that they have to meet. Um if they do not meet the reporting requirements by a certain time or um those larger buildings with energy efficiency requirements, there are uh fines that can be put in place. There are also incentive dollars available for them to complete the reporting um or complete the energy efficiency upgrades. So for about three years, we ran our own program in Isiqua that was to support the building owners of Isiqua in meeting state the state uh requirements. And we did that because we believe that many building owners would not make the change without that technical support and some incentives. Um, and because it was it was beneficial to the city to do that and seeing our own emissions reduced through those energy efficiency requirements. Um, and also to secure more incentive dollars in our community. We have now partnered with Belleview and Redmond. We just relaunched the program about a month ago um where we're working together with one contractor to um help building owners across all three cities. Um, we are focused on the more disadvantaged buildings and supporting them first and helping them get through some of the compliance requirements. Uh, but we are also a education u resource for any building owners. We're anticipating with the funding we have this year, we will help about 8 to 10 buildings um get through their full compliance and cover costs for that. Um, but we're anticipating many others will uh advance their compliance through uh the outreach and education that we're doing. So, an example of the types of buildings that were looking to support meeting compliance would be um like the YWCA, uh Hutchinson House, um uh or some of the some of the senior living facilities, for example. Um, ones that we've worked with in the past include Timber Ridge, uh, the school district. Um, we've worked a bit with Village Theater, for example. >> Really great question. Yeah. Second compliance is they electrify the buildings using heat pumps, things like that. >> Not necessarily. Yeah. So, um, buildings of a certain size have what they call an energy unit, um, a target that they have to meet and that target varies on where you are in the state based on kind of weather and climate. Um, and it varies on the use type. So, every building has every building type and depending on where it's located has a different target. So like a medical facility that might be open 24 hours a day is going to have a different target than a office building that operates 8 to5. Um and so so I lost my train of thought. Sorry your specific question. >> I was wondering compliance how deep does it go? >> Yeah. >> So it's around the energy use. So for some of the buildings it could be um switching to LEDs and maybe putting in Ruba automated lighting system and that might help them reach compliance and that could be a really inexpensive pretty quick change. Others may need to do a complete HVAC retrofit um for example and install solar and do an automated system if it's a really old inefficient building. Um, but we've had really good feedback um from Isiqua School District. I can't remember if it was the middle school or high school. They made one of the changes they need to needed to make. Um, the the school district invested around $150,000. They had a grant to cover the rest of the work and it was a lot around the building automation and they're expecting a payback within uh two years for that project just through the energy savings. So, we're hearing great feedback from a lot of buildings that are making these changes. They're actually going to see um the payback from their investments pretty quickly. >> Amazing. Is that what you factored in? >> Some of them are going to be a lot more complicated and expensive. Um I shouldn't expect that. The school district also had a grant to help cover some of that, but um that's we're hoping to help buildings secure um these incentive dollars to help cover some of those costs soon. Um the next one I'll mention that the uh cities are partnering on again with Belleview and Redmond. We received a grant from Puget Sound Energy to do an electric bike rebate that is going to launch in June. Uh we're expecting uh distributing about 30 to 40 rebates in Isiqua. The rebates amounts will vary depending on income level. Um, and we're working really closely with our local uh, bike retailers. Um, as we work to implement our own city rebate, we are also working to promote a state program. That state program is open now. Um, they do have a lower rebate amount. They have a more limited selection of bikes. Um so we're very interested to see kind of the difference of uptake of folks that receive the rebates um if they use them depending on comparing the the two programs. Um the one advantage of the state program is it is a year long program. Um ours will be kind of a one-time and we'll see if there's a lot of interest we may run it again. Um, and then the last one I I put under ECP because we are partnering with Seamish uh for the first time this year. And I'll have um Oh, this is my older presentation. Sorry, I took out the the question marks around the trees there. Um, I'll have maybe David fill that in. Um, so last year, as the board is aware, was our first year in doing a tree giveaway. Uh, David really ran that with our uh urban forester. Uh this is a partnership with a local nonprofit called 300 trees. Um the city has a lot of discretion and picking which tree varieties to make sure they really meet our needs here. Um, uh, the team did a really great job of kind of phasing the outreach, making sure that they were reaching out to, uh, neighborhoods that had less tree canopy first, um, and then opening it up more broadly to the community. Um, last year was the first year 250 >> 290 >> 290 trees and then this year we're going to have more trees, >> 350 to 375 in Isiqua, about 300 in Seamish. That will be November again. >> Yes, November 7th. Applications open July 10th. If you want a tree and you live in Isqua, >> write it down now. July 10th. >> Great. Um, so I did open my older presentation, so hopefully there's no other weird marks in here. Um, so I'll just mention a couple other programs as we start to run out of time. Um these are uh just city alone, not through our east side partnership. Um but we are super excited to be partnering with King County Library System on opening their first uh tool library or what they are calling a curiosity collection. Um because it will also include um things like canning equipment and a cider press and giant Jenga if you're having a summer barbecue. Um, these are all items you'll be able to check out at the library. Um, and so we've been working with them. Actually, Sam, our solid waste analyst, is using some of her budget to purchase a lot of those items and we'll be partnering with them on uh programming as well. So, um thinking about uh like a edible landscaping workshop and then folks can go and check out um the canning equipment or the food preservation equipment um from the library as well as all the the gardening tools that they need. Um and then our team uh received uh ownership of the commute trip reduction program last year. Uh this is a statewide law where employees employers of a certain size um with certain work hours um are required to participate in a commute trip reduction where they're really um encouraging and incentivizing employees to choose alternatives to drive alone commuting. Um so thinking about that 26% of our emissions coming from staff commuting. We're thinking about ways to encourage our staff to think about alternative trips um as well as working with the city's largest employers. So, this is like Costco, King County Library System, uh Sanmar, um for example. Um and then I did want to note, we'll hear a little bit about this from the students, but um we're also trying to think about programming where we can really better promote transit. um think of new ideas around transit in the city. Um students are working on kind of a circulator shuttle research project for example um as well as doing uh some interesting promotion around um bus use. Let's see. I'm going to move through this quickly. Um these are items coming up um that are community focused. Um, so we're working closely with human services and our emergency manager on what we call a clean air giveaway. This will be a fan and filter um distribution program. Um, primarily working with or looking uh to work with our more senior communities, um, households that may not have air conditioning, lower income households. Um, we ran uh induction cooking uh cooktop classes this last winter uh in partnership with uh PCC. We're interested in possibly doing that again. They were super popular, so that might be something we bring back in the fall. Um and then we also last year um prepared a business resource guide on sustainability um uh at the the uh recognition that many businesses were looking for more resources. Um so we're thinking about how we might be able to get back out into the business community and promote that resource guide. Um, and then just mention a couple of our more community-f facing capital projects. Uh, we are working with PSSE on transitioning uh, street lights to LEDs. A lot of ours are transitioned already, but we have a lot um, uh, remaining to transition. LEDs uh, use a lot less energy. Um, and then as part of that, we are also uh working with PSSE to dim lights during certain hours because LEDs are also a lot brighter. Um, and we're seeing already with some of those initial transitions uh some huge savings. Um, we are covering some of the cost of this transition, but then also receiving incentives back from PSSE. So, we anticipate um it'll either be costneutral in terms of the actual project or payback in less than a year depending on the incentives and then the city will be saving tens of thousands of dollars each year in energy use. Um we're also installing our second pole charger with PSC that'll be going up on the north side of the senior center in the next few weeks. And then we're starting work on an EV charging project at Tibbitz Valley Park. It'll be in um the parking lot right here by the um skate park. So, a few capital projects too for the community. Um and then I will probably wrap up here, but just a note, we do a lot of community events. We thinking of communications, we try to be out in the community as much as possible um at tableabling events for our different programs and and then of course our sustainability fair is our um major event that David and I lead each year. Um we are trying to partner more with community events um by offering kind of like a sponsorship or some uh service. So, uh, we're going to test out sponsoring a bike ballet service, uh, for a new festival coming this summer to Isaqua. Um, and then partnering with, uh, some of our regional partners on other classes that they do. And I will probably leave it by saying 2728. We'll continue a lot of programs, but we'll we'll see what's in the IAP and and what's in our budget. Okay. Any questions for Stacy? Comments? We have a couple of minutes. >> Yeah. >> So, I just have a comment. So, Stacy, I think the additional programs you have listed are great. Um, I do think the ideas you have to do with the King County in conjunction with the King County are really I think great programs and I think they will be really successful outreach events. Um I was going to suggest the shuttle also when I saw it on your slide as well. um you know for reducing the specifically for the employee commute emissions >> um and I don't know if the city already provides or >> gives any benefit um employer benefit for you know subsidized bus passes or anything but that would be a good option to do but if there is a possibility of shutters especially if you're working with Costco or the nearby bigger employers um to provide you know with the employees that may be a good option to look into. >> Yeah, great great um points there. Yeah, the city does provide free Orca cards for staff and then there are um we are trying to be better about educating internally about like band pools and those types of programs. And then um Costco has asked for a lot of support around um their van pools and shuttles. And especially we've been talking a lot about how to connect from the South Belleview park and ride for their staff that are coming in from Seattle on the light rail to get them here so they don't have to transfer multiple times to buses. Um but they are a big van poolool user but trying to think of kind of that um last mile or couple mile um commute for those coming in from Seattle in particular. Um, yeah, in the shuttle, I think we're really interested in exploring different ideas for that. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> You got a few minutes left. If you want to go through the work plan real quick. >> I'll um I don't think I need to. Yeah, the updated work plan. There are a few adjustments made to that. Just mostly moving things out that haven't been quite ready um to come to the board. Um, I might just touch base on what happened Monday night at the committee of the whole and then I have just a few items coming up. Um, so David and I presented Monday night to our council's committee of the whole. Um, so it is all council. The mayor doesn't usually attend the committee of the whole meetings, but it's a little less formal of an interaction between the committee members where they can really get into more dialogue dialogue and discuss than at a regular council meeting. Um, we uh had a brief amount of time to present. So really focused on the process we've gone through to update the climate action plan and then we touched on some of the major changes in particular some of the targets and um more aggressive actions the policy related actions that are being proposed in the climate plan. Um what was determined by the committee is that we will return to that committee on June 8th. uh we are planning to bring them a full draft of the plan and uh dig deep into um some of the major changes and components of the plan. Um they will provide their feedback. David and I will try and incorporate that feedback on the 9th and then our goal is to come to you all on the 10th and summarize the feedback that we get um from council um and then work with you all to prepare a recommendation letter uh back to council on council on whether or not you approve the plan. depending on what happens on the 8th, that may change. If they want to see major changes, um we may delay bringing that back to the environmental board, but that is our plan right now. So, you all will receive a full draft of the climate plan in your meeting packet for the 10th, but just know you'll receive an update from us on the 9th on kind of what happened the evening of the 8th. >> Um, great. And then next meeting so we'll be talking about climate action plan and then we are planning to have the students come and present on their projects from this year. Our budget process is a little um shifted. We have new staff in budget or in finance department. Um so we may bring kind of an intro of the budget in June but we may delay that um till later in the summer. So that's a little bit about what's upcoming over the next month. >> Thank you. >> Yeah. >> Thank you everybody for coming tonight. >> It was a good meeting. So we are ajourned. >> Thank you all. Dallas speak.