and I thought she was talking about something else but it may have been about that night and I just didn't understand she was saying that she planned to be there and one gonna make it yeah all right good evening ladies and gentlemen I like to call our call to order the development Commission meeting of October 3rd we're going to be discussing we have to well a number of agenda items but the specifics are a Costco campus expansion building for community conference for information and a public hearing Costco campus expansion building five for a decision before we do that we are going to we have a couple of business issues to take care of the first is approval of minutes of September 5th and then we have to elect some officers for this coming year so let's look at the minutes first everybody had a chance to read the minutes and if you have would like to accept a motion move to approve the minutes second any discussion all those agreed say aye aye opposed motion carries so now the election of officers and I will call for nominations for the chair and the commissioners can make nominations I'll close the nominations and then we'll discuss that if needed and I'll call for a vote mr. chair I nominee are current here Richard so as chair at second there are other other nominations for your speech do you want to know what I did in high school no sir so all those in favor say aye aye those opposed and I guess I'm the chair how bad I would like to accept nominations for the vice chair miss Chairman I nominate Commissioner Melvin Morgan as vice chair at second other nominations all those in favor say aye aye aye all those opposed so we've concluded our nominations so thank you gentlemen congratulation why does it take the federal government months and months you don't really want an answer for that rhetorical question okay so let us start our community conference for the Costco campus expansion building number four we'll be starting with our Senior Planner Jean Lynne and she'll give a presentation we'll have a applicant presentation we'll open the floor for public comments if there are members of the public and then we'll have some discussion over it so this Lynne I just get to do the fun part first oh I'm sorry no that's all right it's not on the agenda so it's a quasi-judicial hearing I think I'm gonna skip this slide because you know this but if you could read through the questions how many commissioners answer no to all the questions any commissioners answer yes and then the other piece of it is ex parte communications have you had any conversations about this permit outside of the public hearing no no no no great any challenges from the applicant thank you good evening Development Commissioners I'm gene Linn senior planner with the city of is a quad development services department and I'm also the project planner for the proposed development so here tonight there's also the applicant seem we have Steve Bullock here to my left from MJ to architects and we also have Jackie Frank from Costco I think later on we'll also be joined by other members of Mg to Shannon Susan so tonight's meeting is a continuation of the meeting on September 5th that's where we received comments from the development Commission and the public on the proposed Costco campus expansion project and the presentation tonight is going to be really focused on the questions and comments from the last meeting so as a reminder the project consists of two discrete applications with two distinct review processes and it's we're looking at a site development permit and a administrative site development permit and while they're listed as two separate projects in the agenda tonight we're going to be presenting them in one presentation and the meeting materials have also been combined as well [Music] so the following meeting sequence is the proposed is proposed to help organize the presentations and discussions for tonight we'll start with a combined presentation by staff and the applicant that'll be followed by any public comments and then we'll have the continuation of the public hearing with the development Commission's discussion and decision for the site development permit for building five that's the parking garage and then we'll follow that up with the continuation of the community conference for the administrative site development permit for building four and that's the office building so if there's any members of the public who want to speak they could sign in at the clipboard at the front of the room so just to provide a very quick recap of the proposed development it's two new buildings on the left there it's building five that is on the northwest corner of Lake Drive and southeast 62nd Street it's a ten story parking garage and there's approximately 30,000 square feet of active uses on the ground floor to the right of that is building four that's at the northeast corner of Lake Drive in South East 62nd Street it's a nine story office building with one level of underground parking and the building consists of approximately 600,000 square feet there's also a sky bridge that goes across Lake Drive that connects the two buildings on the upper floors as I touched upon earlier we're looking at two discrete applications tonight so for the site development permit that's for building five the development Commission's role is the decision-making body and that would be to take action on the project for the administrative site development permit that's for building for the development Commission's role is to provide staff with input so that we can write our administrative decision so we received a number of comments from the last meeting and what we've done is organize the comments into 13 topics the first 8 topics you see pertain to building 5 as well as the overall site and the last 5 topics pertain to building for the city and the applicant have worked together on responding to these comments and our consolidated responses are provided in the briefing response memo the topic numbers that are listed here do correspond with the topic numbers as presented in the briefing response memo so we'll start with the first topic and that is an administrative adjustment of standards to provide some greater design clarity for the through block connection at building 5 this was something that we had told the Commission we'd come back to present we had provided a preliminary condition that would require us to go through an ASN we are here tonight doing so so there's a couple of refinements to the design of the through block passage at this building the applicant is proposing differently patterned concrete at the walkways and at the vehicular drive there's going to be bollards along the pedestrian walkways artwork on the northern walkway there's a couple of elements that would try to help soften the environment through that walkway area under the building that includes Rick horsing would like ceilings and inset lighting into the ceiling so one thing to note is that the artwork that's shown here is really only intended to provide a flavor of what could be proposed it's not representative of actual artwork that's proposed at that location in fact staff would prefer art that would be designed to be distributed along the route rather than concentrated on one segment so the design of the through block passage includes two walkways where it goes through the building you'll see that on the northern route the walkway is eight feet wide and on the southern route the walkway would be five feet wide these widths include placement of bollards and when you have bollards within that walkway with its reduces the clear width of the walkway by about 6 inches to up to a foot for the north walkway that's not so much of an issue it's wide enough to accommodate pedestrians comfortably going through as well as the bollards but on the southern walkway when you reduce the five-foot walkway to about four and a half four feet to four and a half feet that gets a little tight and uncomfortable for two people passing so staff is recommending modifying the southern route to require a minimum of five foot clear with for that walkway so you'll see our proposed revision to condition for condition floor as I mentioned was a preliminary condition in the staff report and that's to require us to come back with an AAS we're modifying that language since we are bringing the a the AES back now and so the condition has been modified to provide a minimum clear with of seven feet and five feet for these walkways Thank You Jeanne the one thing that that I just wanted to bring up is clarity for you guys what we're proposing to put through here or what we're required to put through here is what's called a secondary through block connection and per said the the configuration of a through block a secondary through block c'n connection is a five foot wide pathway with four feet of landscaping on either side of it and so what we're proposing here what this is all about is eliminating the four feet of landscaping required on either side of that walkway as we're going through the passageway that goes under the building and to compensate for that we're proposing the two sock sidewalks were in agreement with city staff in regards as we as it pertains to the revision of the conditions we're fine with that so moving on to the second topic this pertains to the northeast corner of building five the comment is that this corner appears utilitarian and monolithic and that there's no gateway element or other feature at this corner and the applicant has come back with a modified design as you can see on the left is the original proposal and on the upper floors of the parking garage the original proposal had slats and that was consistent with the rest of the facade on the right is the revised proposal and that incorporates accent paneling at the building corner the paneling treatment is pretty consistent with the treatment of other building corners along the South East 62nd Street side for both buildings and helps book and the building so that it kind of provides a nice nice edge to the to the buildings into the site here's a perspective of that same corner but with some context of views of building for and the skybridge this is a view coming down Lake Drive and if I could we just want to say thank you for suggesting this look at this again because we really do agree with you that this was a very positive change to our design it's something that reflects other places that we the way we treated the building in other parts of it and and it's really appropriate here and gives us a much richer final product Thanks but their third topic pertains to tree retention and density the comment we received basically asked for more trees to be planted on site that the tree removals adjacent to the net to the natural areas impact the experience along those natural areas and to plant native species on the site so as part of the conditions of approval condition 5 does require the applicant to meet the minimum tree density on site to the extent that it's would be practical and feasible if it's not feasible to plant all the trees on site to meet the minimum tree density there's the option to find opportunities to plant trees off-site and if both on and off site options have been exhausted there's the option to contribute to the city's tree fund in addition to condition 5 staff is recommending a new condition that encourages the applicant to plant slightly larger larger trees and also to plant trees that are adjacent to the natural areas that is a long as a col Creek and Pickering Pickering pond thanks Jean what we're showing here is is the properties that we're going to be developing and we've overlaid the footprints of our building and utility corridors on top of our tree survey and and it's not even showing everything - you know there's there's the plaza area on the east side of building 4 - that in the end what we're talking about to build these buildings excavation that's going to be required for the basement garage on building 4 and all the circulation that's happening for building 5 and including the utility corridors is that we're impacting the entire site and it's and it's not a decision that we took lightly we considered you know what does what does the urban core zone allow and you know it allows a 95 percent block coverage and the end we're going to be providing 81 and 88% lot coverage so less than then the maximum allowed and and we we had a lot of thought and conversation go into the trees that are out there you know some of them are our parking lot trees built to provide our installed to provide shade and and break up the area of a parking lot and then some on the perimeter and we have photos that that document this that we're all planted by a Costco over the years to provide screening of the parking lot and obviously that's not going to be the condition in the future and so in the end we ended up applying for an an administrative adjustment of standards to ask for approval to remove all the trees and that that's not because we don't want to plant trees as some of the letters that were received said we we absolutely want to plant trees and and what we're showing here is our site plan with all the trees that were proposing at this point in time and as we continue to develop the site plan and and some of the the street wall conditions and things like that I think we're even going to be able to supplement this some more but currently what we're proposing with our administrative adjustment of standards is a elimination of a hundred and eighty four trees on the site of those only 116 are considered significant trees because the other tree's are either too small or they're in poor condition as determined by the arborist and those 116 trees represent 1268 caliper inches of trees and when when we read says section ten point four states that there's one replacement tree required for every six inches of tree caliper removed so for the for the two hundred and eleven trees that represent that that 1268 caliper inches divided by six means that the replacement amount of trees is a two hundred eleven trees this plan right here is showing a hundred and sixty-one trees and and the minimum insulation size per says - is is 2 inch diameter for deciduous trees and seven feet tall for for conifers and it would absolutely be our intent to plant things at greater size probably a three to four inch caliper - to get us some instant effect especially in some of the plaza area to get those canopies up high enough that people can walk under them and things like that and the same thing for for some of the the conifers to put them in it at Heights greater than the minimum to address exactly the conditions that that staffs talked about as being proposed conditions so again this is something just to kind of give you a flavor of what our thought process has been we absolutely want to to have the final product for for our campus continue to be one that demonstrates high quality and and and dedication to have in a natural environment trees shrubs and and the like to be lush and beautiful and and full so that it matches up with the existing canopy screaming dizzying campus that is out there and the adjacent natural features that we're hoping to take advantage of from a view perspective so we are and can we concur with with staffs recommending conditions on this thanks T so the next topic is about trail experience and in the sense that the proposed removal trees potential tall retaining walls and views of the buildings are going to ruin the the trail experience so we're gonna respond firstly about the Pickering pond the Pickering pond trail experience and then we'll talk about the Pickering trail experience so Pickering pond trail experience is long building five generally the applicant is has redesigned this trail so that is raised approximately by three feet so it's gonna be at the top of a retain a retaining wall instead of at the bottom of the retaining wall the applicant is proposing to revegetate the area where the pond where the trail is adjacent to the pond overlook the pond overlook would be supported by either columns or a retaining wall and staff is requesting proposing to revise condition 11 pertaining to building 5 to require treatment if retaining walls over 4 feet are proposed anywhere along the Pickering pond trail in addition staff is proposing a new condition with the redesign of the trail and raising it to be above the retaining wall the trail alignment has changed such that portions of the trail would now be on Costco's private property and so the new condition would help ensure that the public trail access would be ensured through granting of an easement to the city we'd like to just talk real quickly I don't know how many of you have been on the the Pickering Pond Trail this is the existing path that's on the west side of where we're going to be putting building five and doesn't mass show yeah good the these first two images in the top left in the center kind of show you you know that that path has been in place now since since the early 90s and the vegetation is has really filled in and and as you can see there the path is overgrown there's branches and you know overtaking it and it's it's not a very inviting place to walk right now as you continue on and look at the one here in the upper right you see is kind of this long it's almost turned into a cavern is so overhung with with vegetation and plants and then you can see too that there's a lot of invasive species that have taken over there's that's a bunch of Himalayan blackberry there's Morning Glory there there's a bunch of stuff out there that that needs to be cleaned up and sand back and in these these bottom two images on the Left show you the the path as it gets down kind of at the low point where it has some issues with flooding in the wintertime and groundwater seepage that comes over it and it leaves kind of a slimy mess on on the path and it's not a very inviting place to walk or have people go there and so part of what we're looking to do is is make that a better experience when you look at this site plan I hope you can see the kind of yellow stripe here to on the left side of that image and that's where the existing path is now and it's got a retaining wall on the east side of it that's I'll say roughly three feet high our idea is to take it and and get rid of that path and put the new one on top of that retaining wall which gets it to a point where it's no longer looking the retaining wall it gets it a little bit hired so you can look over and see the pond better and in all these areas that are shown in green are areas that are just going to slope back to the new building number five or the adjacent driveways there will be no retaining walls in those areas or if so just very low a couple feet at most and and so that area is going to be planted we have a requirement with the Public Works Department for bringing our our water main around the outside of the building there and the path and and and the landscaping are going to allow us to do that and it's going to be at the at the narrowest point here we're talking about 25 feet wide getting widening out to approximately 40 feet at the south end so we're going to be able to put some substantial landscaping in there to soften the effect of that new building building five and in the end the other thing that we think that's really neat about this whole thing is that the the new trail and the through block connection that we talked about on our previous discussion are going to meet at this this node here that we're calling the pond overlook feature and and and we think that that's going to be a great way to connect those two trails up and allow for people to move through the area and just be a very beautiful experience and besides that we're in agreement with the staffs proposed conditions at this time continuing on this topic so we're looking at the other side at building for Pickering trail near is a koala Creek so we looked more closely at the trail experience along the Pickering trail and one element one significant element that we noticed is that there's an existing offset stand off site stand of trees it's about a hundred and sixty five linear feet that's along the trail and that's that vegetation is going to stay and in the slide here you can see on the left is the proposed development and that stand of trees is circled in the red and on the right is the aerial photo of the existing conditions with the stand of tree that trees circled in yellow and you could also see the location of the trees and proximity to the trail and the site so the stand of trees is going to soften the appearance of the building when viewed from the trail and so these the section on top helps illustrate the relationship between the building vegetation and trail if you start on the very left the far left that's where building four would be as you come to the right you see the so here's the building and then as you move right this is the Creekside Terrace deck area and then and then you'll see the stand of trees and then to the right of the sand trees is the Pickering trail so there's quite a bit of distance between the trail and the building and the plan view on the bottom illustrates what this area looks like so again building Creekside Terrace area and the trees and the trail the one thing that we want to bring to your attention as well is that there used to be an easement on Costco's property it was called the easement r and it was supposed to be for the city to put a ran along the very east edge of our property and it was supposed to be there for the trail to be constructed in well ultimately the trail didn't get constructed there it got constructed entr'acte where it is now and it's about a year year-and-a-half ago Costco worked together the City Council to get that easement relinquished and and as part of that Costco agreed to to pay the city twenty five thousand dollars to assist in mitigating any difficulties or visual obstructions whatever you want to call it that might occur with this building being built in close close proximity to the trail and and ultimately we're going to want to connect our system up with the trail as well and so I after we're through with this project we're going to start working together with Parks and Rec working out their direction and their their leadership to put together a plan for how things happen in track day how some of our trails and and Plaza spaces ultimately connect up to Pickering trail and then what kinds of plantings get done there if and when the trail maybe gets adjusted in its location and all that stuff is is partially paid for by a contribution that Costco has already made to the city so the next topic relates to excavation and fill the concerns expressed were that the number of truck trips that would be required and associated with the proposed excavation and fill the site there's also concerns about trying to keep trucks off of sr 900 in May Valley Road trying to minimize the truck trips by keeping soil in Issaquah rather than trucking it out and also the amount of soil that would be needed to address the local faction issues on the site so information that was presented in the previous packet noted that there would be about 55,000 cubic yards of material that would be hauled from the site and due to some refinements of the project namely a reduction in the underground garage at building four that number has been updated to about forty thousand cubic yards of material condition 15 would also address the local faction and weak soils at the site yeah and we're we're in agreement with this city on this once we have our general contractor on board for the project and one of the things that they're going to need to do is put together a construction management plan a best practices type of thing that includes haul routes and traffic control and all of that and they're going to have to come up with things that make the city that that meet the city's requirements for hauling what roads get used all of that stuff and we're going to comply with whatever the city requires us to do at that time it's hard to make commitments to that right now so the next topic pertains to traffic and road improvements and the concern was that given the amount of development in this area that additional road improvements would be necessary to serve this area specifically what was suggested is to provide an additional right turn lane at 17th Avenue SR nine hundred and twelfth Street and also to provide a crossing over through i-90 so both of these improvements are actually have actually are actually contemplated and the with respect to the 17th Avenue SR 900 and 12th Street improvements at that intersection that's already been committed to as part of the Costco development agreement in the master transportation funding agreement and timing for that has actually been delayed do you do the need to coordinate with Lake Sammamish State Park this is one of three transportation improvement projects that were identified in the Costco development agreement with respect to the i-90 crossing that's that has been identified as a long-term improvement in the city's transportation improvement plan the target is to start work on that in 2020 and by start work it means to start applying for grant funding to allow for preliminary design work to begin however construction of that project may be many years after 2020 topic number seven pertained to sustainability and the comment was to incorporate the city's sustainable building action strategy green building measures into the project the applicant has provided a response the development agreement exhibit K which talks about sustainability already requires certain measures to be incorporated into the project I've got listed here several the key measures from the applicants response to exhibit K with and these are the measures that the applicant has committed to implementing as part of the project I think I might just just say real quickly we've we've had a number of conversations with many different people from city staff about how we comply with exhibit K and and and the city's desire for this to be a you know a model project as it relates to sustainability and and I think we've had some really good conversations with is it David Kawamoto or puja moto thank you I'm sorry and and then the rest of the staff talking about these things so the next topic pertains to site amenities the comment listen number of amenities that the site I guess requesting that the site the development should provide these amenities these include creating spaces for social opportunities providing convenient access to Lake Sammamish State Park providing amenities for all ages providing weather protection and seating for pedestrian paths and transit stops providing outdoor lighting to facilitate evening public activity activities providing a location for the i-90 crossing and transit pedestrian and bicycle connections to the Pickering to Gilman connection so many of these amenities are already proposed incorporated as part of the proposed project some of these elements however aren't relevant to this site or development so for example the request to provide a connection to Lake Sammamish State Park is going to be not relevant to this site because it's the site isn't adjacent to the State Park or or in very close proximity with respect to the i-90 crossing location that location is actually anticipated and lower Pickering and not at this site so I think that Steve might elaborate on some of the other amenities yeah I just we we took this opportunity to kind of highlight some of the things that we have going on here there's there's a number of different gathering or community spaces provided throughout these two buildings and they go from spots that are quieter more contemplative of nature you know you have the pond overlook you've got the the Creekside Terrace that's looking towards Issaquah Creek those those are going to be a little bit more quiet and and allow people to kind of view and experience nature and be immersed in nature to a certain degree and then the other the other public spaces are you know more urban in nature you know they're close to the buildings they're there where the building and the street is being activated there's there's lots of activity going on in the buildings there they're connected to two cafeterias in some spaces close to assembly spaces in others and benches and and tree canopy and and interesting things for for the people that use those spaces are going to be there and we believe that we comply with the things that that letter brought up so that concludes the topics pertaining to building five in the overall site at this time we're going to transition into topics that pertain only to building four which is the administrative site development permit so for building four blank walls was brought up at the last meeting and discussed to some extent so there's two locations of blank walls that were identified and the comment is how how are these blank walls going to be addressed these two locations are at the southeast corner of the building and at the northwest corner of the building the applicants provided some refinements to the design of these blank wall areas and as a reminder condition 10 also requires blank wall treatments at both these locations so starting with the southeast corner of the building this is the corner that's adjacent to South East 62nd Street on the on the top you'll see the original proposal with the blank wall and initially just landscaping was proposed to treat that blank wall on the bottom is the revised design and in the and the revisions the applicants added some punched windows along the majority of the length of that wall they've raised the planter beds they have raised planter beds to help obscure the remainder of that blank wall and there would be additional brick detail that would be added to the wall design yeah we this is nothing new you know we I think it shows a little bit better here than it does on the on the perspective and that's partially because the the grades aren't very well developed on the perspective but the road sixty second is actually coming from the bridge abutment as a high point and slowly ramping down towards the the traffic circle at the intersection of lake and 62nd and so we see and you can kind of see here in in this corner the the landscape bed that's adjacent to the the sidewalk between the sidewalk in the building is actually going to kind of terrace this way down as the sidewalk is is dropping along 62nd and then there's going to be a backdrop of windows behind that to allow some of the views into the building there that's an actual foyer area for an assembly area for Costco and there there may be pre function type activities going on in there and so having windows here is not a bad thing for us so the other area with blank walls is at the northwest corner of the building and this is a long lake drive it's actually a section that's set back from a lake drive it's adjacent to the ramp to the underground garage it's still it's set back quite significantly from Lake Drive but still visible what's what's proposed here are raised landscape planters as well as providing some additional detail to the brick to break up to make it a little more interesting yeah I think looking at the elevation you can see the area where staff had the concern which is is this brick wall here what's going on behind that is it's the service and kitchen area of the building that serves the cafeteria and and the loading docks which is why we don't have windows and things in there and what we've tried to do and you can see it in the perspective below we have we have the ramp going down to the basement garage plus landscaping on either side of that ramp for a total distance of probably close to 40 feet that removes pedestrians from that wall and so in that 40 feet there be a 24 foot wide drive aisle and then another 15 feet of landscaping on either side of that that has trees and shrubs berm area all kind of filtering and screening views of that wall will do some things architectural II to make it interesting so it's not just a plain flat wall but but it it's already going to be very fairly much removed from where pedestrians are going to be there they're set back quite a significant distance from it topic number 10 deals with sense of arrival and the comment was raised about how to achieve a sense of arrival for those coming from the east so there's a couple of elements that could signal the sense of arrival there transitions that would have an implied sense of arrival there's also physical markers or design elements that could mark the arrival point so in terms of the transitions there's some pretty significant transitions as you come from East Lake Sammamish Parkway and as you move towards the Costco corporate campus what's the experiences as as you come from East Lake Sammamish Parkway you're gonna hit a roundabout and then that that would be so East Lake Sammamish parkways over here you come through that a roundabout and then and then you're gonna negotiate through a fairly long bridge along South East 62nd Street that bridge has a span of about eight to nine hundred feet and it spans the natural Creek and wetland habitat area so the photo on the right shows a good view of that habitat area as you as you're on the bridge so in addition to that there's as you as you near the western end of the bridge and get closer to the Costco campus you're going to transition from the natural habitat to the urban street environment and the transition also takes place in terms of what you see so the views are going to be transitioning from the wetland views to the trees and the proposed building in this case building four you're also going to be transitioning from the bridge onto an at-grade Road and so all of these transitions really help signal to the user that you're you're entering a different place and it really instills a strong sense of arrival into the Costco campus and into Pickering in addition to these transitions and implied sense of arrival there's also physical markers that could be implemented to mark the arrival points Costco is already in the process of developing wayfinding signage for Pickering and because of that staffed Enfield's need to add a new condition to require physical markers but if the Development Commission feels that a new condition is warranted we've included some suggested language in the briefing response memo thank you thank you gene excuse me we've had a lot of internal discussion about this since it was brought up at the last development Commission meeting and section chapter 12 point-to-point II where it talks about sense of arrival says sites should promote unique design features and a sense of arrival in each district and development to establish distinct boundaries that are recognizable to the community and that's that's all it says about it and and even some of the discussion that we had at our last meeting was I'm not sure we totally knew what you guys were looking for or what you were hoping that we would do what what we thought and you know we're coming at it from an architecture perspective and we believe that there are site design and our building design is really centered on this area that we have highlighted with the dashed lines here which which is focused on the the entry canopy of the building for and there are there are three lantern features one right here in this northwest corner of building four one in the southwest corner building four and one at the southeast corner building five and and that coupled with the pedestrian bridge that's framing this whole area and the fact that that the traffic circle is all funneling people if you're coming from the east or west on the south once you hit that traffic circle and you start turning up Lake Drive this is your sense of arrival you are here we're dealing with it specifically in the architecture of the building and and the features that are built into the building and the site design the same thing as you're coming south on on Lake Drive you're coming down and you see this community space this the plaza the lantern feature the the area where the auto court and this is all culminating in what we believe from an architect's perspective is the sense of arrival for these buildings now relating to a sense of arrival for a district we we agree that Pickering place is a development as a whole that that deserves some monumentation it has some right now but it's fairly dated it doesn't have any on this southeast corner of the site and and Costco along with other owners of Pickering place are already kind of in the midst of talking about some different things to do to refresh and and and put something together that is a comprehensive way finding and monumentation package the entire Pickering place development and we would like to continue moving forward without without that being something that is conditioned on this project because we feel this is a very different thing than that and we're committed to moving forward on both of those and that's kind of where we are at as far as we hope that we can move this approval forward without a condition related to that and we will continue to move that other effort forward on its own track so building for the question was raised about how this building complies with the build to line requirements in the centralized across standards and also in the Costco development agreements so the image on the left is from the development agreement land plan and this shows a good that shows the relationship that was contemplated between building four and what was assumed to be the alignment of South East 62nd Street at that time to the right is the proposed site plan that shows the relationship of the proposed building for with the actual alignment of South East 62nd Street that is as it is currently being constructed so for curvilinear streets the development agreement allows some flexibility to the build to line compliance with the build to line standard in that it understands that buildings can be can meet the intent of the bill to line standard without meeting the letter that when you have curved linear streets and especially if you don't want to force all of the buildings to be curved and along with the street so with respect to the build to line compliance the building along lake drop the lake drive frontage is actually largely compliant with the standard as for the South East 62nd Street frontage we looked at this a little more closely and the alignment has actually changed pretty significantly since the alignment that was assumed under the development agreement so in the image here and the green the green line actually shows the alignment that was assumed under the development agreement and you can see under this alignment it is pretty it's it's a fairly straight alignment there's about 331 feet of straight frontage in this alignment since then there's been some modifications to that the current alignment of South East 62nd Street right-of-way is shown in the blue line above that and in the blue line there's some additional curved areas that have been incorporated into that alignment and so you end up only with 182 feet of straight frontage so what we're working with here is actually a street that was assumed to be much straighter than it is and has now become more curvilinear and so because of that we feel that the building along this frontage would be eligible for the flexibility that's allowed under the development agreement we agree this this was the subject of many many talks internally with with our team and and then also with with city staff or over the months in the year about how we we get a building that meets the intent of this and there's a lot of things we're trying to do to really meet the intent we're in many cases we're pulling the sidewalk right up to the face of our buildings so the building feels like a zero lot line building even even though the sidewalk may the actual property I excuse me may be more than 10 feet away from the face of our building we've got sidewalk running right up to the face er of our building so it feels like you're all still within the the public realm and the public right-of-way and we're providing community space and we're committed to working really hard with staff to come up with solutions for for how we continue to reinforce the the street wall within that build to line so we're grateful for their direction on this and and continue to look forward to working together with them on it the next topic pertain to the east-west through blocked passage at building four specifically how the design and alignment of this passage would prioritize pedestrians there was one particularly challenging location that was identified in the last meeting and that's where the through blocked passage traverses through the loading area for the trading building that's shown in the blue oval on in the diagram on the left the picture on the right actually shows that loading area at the trading building so again some design refinements have been made to make this a safer and more pleasant pedestrian experience the applicant is proposing an 8 foot wide path that would be patterned concrete and that would contrast with the paving design for the vehicular areas a landscape planter area has also been extended down to create a 10-foot by 10-foot pedestrian refuge in that through blocked passage area as well so that makes it a little more comfortable for pedestrians to negotiate through that area if and when there are vehicles going through that area at the same time one consideration to keep in mind is that the trading building is will be redeveloped at some point in the future and so the pedestrian experience would likely change with the redevelopment of that site Thank You Jeanne one other thing I'd like to add that this picture of the UPS truck park there is rather unfortunate for a number of reasons the the way this loading dock is supposed to work is trucks actually pull inside and all the loading and unloading happens inside the building and in all reality there's only one to four trips a day that they come to this so it's it's not a high use area we believe what we're proposing here both from differentiating the path and then providing a place for people to to stop and and and and have some protection before they move on is an appropriate response to staffs legitimate concern here and I think we have a solution that we both feel good about so we're at the last topic here and that has to do with the CEPA analysis for impacts of flood plains so the comment that we received indicated that actions of the floodplain are not covered by the planned action determination that was the basis of previous environmental analysis so floodplain impacts are quite heavily regulated by federal state and city regulations the the previously pnau analysis also did identify compliance with these regulations as part of the mitigation measures for development within floodplain areas and so we've we've had condition 16 proposed which would require the that the applicant obtain a flood hazard permit and that they comply with all city applicable city codes and and just to give you a little bit of detail on that as well we've already hired some consultants the same consultants that actually that worked on the flood hazard permit for the city's Road job here we've hired them to do our work and and have that pretty much completed and we're waiting for us getting through this process if we have this approval process in place and we'll be applying for our flood hazard permit with the city to to demonstrate that we come with all the the city federal and state codes related to that thank you jackie frank chairman mr. vice chairman congratulation on your elections tonight as you can see before you this evening this presentation staff has been an excellent partner we're pleased to have collaborated on the response memo and the presentation we really appreciate your considering both the administrative site development permit together with the site development permit it's a unique situation but we felt that it was needed and that they both needed to be viewed together one in fact provided context for the other and we thank you for allowing us to structure things this way thanks again for the comments that you've provided at the last meeting your suggestions on building five facade treatment were excellent and we we definitely believe it improved the quality of the design so thank you thank you for that looking back and I'm gonna if we've really talked about this much but as a part of the process I'm especially pleased with the time we spent with your consultant Crandall arambula we went through the SIDS compliance checklist even though we didn't really have to it helped us develop common language with your consultant and with staff and a vocabulary in considering projects and evaluating design solutions we think it was really productive and and time well-spent from Costco's perspective additionally we're very pleased with the success of the project relative to our own growth and consolidation objectives and we hope our responses tonight were sufficient and we appreciate your guidance and your input overall i'd like to say on behalf of costco that we appreciate the partnership we've we have between the city of Issaquah and costco wholesale thank you so this concludes staff and applicants presentation at this time we're available to take any questions from the Development Commission as well before we move on to public comments and just as a reminder here's the proposed meeting sequence for tonight so we've just completed the combined staff and applicant presentation we could move on to public comments after that and the public hearing for the site development permit and then finally the community conference for the administrative site development permit event any members of the public wish to speak please sign in at the clipboard at the front of the room and if you can please consider presenting your comments around each building separately as the development commissioners will have to have separate conversations about each building as well thank you so much we didn't know if you might have questions before we opened it so no you can do questions after - we just didn't know if you had any clarification sorry for the confusion we are trying to decide what the best approach would be and at this point we think the best approach would be for us to open the discussion for public comment if members of public wish to make comment we'd like you to sign in introduce yourself and then we'll hear your comments and then the Commissioner will have some discussion and questions don't forget thank you [Laughter] invisible ink it's wood we know who you are hi my name is Connie Martian I live up on squawk and I didn't want to come and then I looked at the this website and I said yeah okay I have to go down because y'all know I'm generally dissatisfied right and so I was pleased to see that progress was made it's going to be hard to divide being pleased with progress between both between the buildings so I'm not exactly sure how to go with that but you guys talked about the trails and the trees at the same time so I'm going to do the same thing I think what Costco agreed to do on the trail around the ponds is going to be way better for everybody and so I totally appreciate that because we can make a better trail and get Costco what they want on the Pickering trail side I'm trying to be positive on that it's basically saying we're doing enough and it's going to be great and trust us it's going to be great and that stand of trees is not as big or thick as you as you think especially in the wintertime because a lot of those trees are deciduous and so in this new developing relationship with Costco that's warm and fuzzy I would like more evergreen trees to give sort of a year-round sense of green and now I'm following into the landscaping shown for both of both of the buildings the pictures are showing evergreens and they're talking about how this is going to soften the building phases but it won't in the winter and so we only have leaves on trees for a certain period of time so in this new warm and fuzzy experience I think we need to be sure that we are talking about year-round vegetation that will that will give us this sense of screening because I don't I don't think what they're planning there is actually gonna work around now I want to talk a little bit about the sense of arrival and again I think this is both buildings in all of Costco when you go into their area you don't even know where you are if you aren't from town and you don't know that you're in a Costco place you're going wow this is sort of wild I just went through the green and now I'm in this new age over Pasi thing who are these people yet you can't get out you can't go to a restaurant you don't really know what it's about unless you're from here and so I think you do need some clues that it's sort of a maybe an avant-garde business campus so that people who are interacting with it because they will be more now because we have that new road have some concept of how to behave or what to do and where the public places are and where the not so public places are and sort of what it's about and I think signage might do it may be big huge addresses on the buildings so that people can understand these are these are corporate buildings here and then they'll think and that's probably a corporate gym and that's probably a corporate cafeteria as compared to well can I get a bowl of chicken soup in there and so that would be sort of my comments on the sense of arrival I don't think it needs a condition I think with the new warm and fuzzy relationship with Costco that we're expressing that we should be able to get that now my last comment is should this relationship not be as warm and fuzzy as as we're anticipating from this meeting tonight what can be done to make it better and not to be a non trusting person but I'm not if I was to see something that I think that you guys wouldn't approve of going up what's the mechanism for coming back and getting a fix and maybe I just don't understand it maybe it's in the development agreement but it is totally unclear how these decisions are going to be made and how they're gonna be given to you so you know it's happening and given to the public so they understand what's happening because that's all totally non transparent but warm and fuzzy okay that's it thank you thank you that's okay so I don't think we have other members of the public thank you for your comments and we'll close the public comment period at this point and now the commissioners will open it up for questions I have a few questions please and a couple of comments I'll start with the questions I'll start with topic one this is really just a practical question and I'm sure there's some criteria that I'm unaware of with respect to the width of those two sidewalks why wouldn't they either just be the same or the the South sidewalk be the 8 foot it seems more foot traffic would occur on the south side versus the north side or or again maybe I'm just not understanding some alignments or some other criteria but why are they why are we pushing the minimum on one side and the other side is much more right great great question and and that's you know there's been lots of discussion between us and staff and disagreement and you know ultimate where we're at right now and we're anxious to hear what you say but one of the reasons we're showing it there's there's two big reasons why we're showing it on the north side the first is that we have this through block connection on this side of trading that hits this crosswalk and continues on across and they line up and so somebody that's that's coming across and wants to use that wider sidewalk and continue on to the east that's that's one of the reasons why we did that the spur ongoing excuse me I went all the way the other reason is this parking garage is going to have 1700 cars come in and out of it in a day and there's two main entrances to it one in the southwest corner and and and the other one kind of at this northeast point right here right and and our thought is that the amount of cars coming and you know you take 1700 cars they come in and they go that's 3400 trips if you split them 50/50 there's back at 1,700 trips coming out of out of this driveway right here and we thought it made more sense to try to emphasize the the walkway on the north side of the of that drive aisle to get them away from all those trips going in and out of the garage so those those were our two thoughts we're anxious to hear what you think we've had lots of discussion with staff and and debate and and we're open to your direction as well yeah it was more of a question of why and I think that answers it a lot I think beyond that is is there some sort of system that signals when cars are exiting no question what we're going to be doing and it doesn't show very clearly here but we're going to be pulling back the walls on either side of that curb cut so that opening is probably going to end up being if the if the curb cut was 24 and I'm not sure that that is what it's going to be but assume it is we're probably going to have upwards of 30 feet of opening there with you know three to four feet on either side of that so that as people are coming walking up they'll be visible the drivers that are trying to exit okay sue come Kevin can I just add one thing about because we're removing the landscape we felt strongly that at least one of them had to be wider to kind of compensate and make it a little more gracious because it doesn't have the landscape on either side you may remember that last time it we staff's condition was to have it wider on the south side we went back and forth I think some of the commissioners comments last time where why wasn't it on the north side I know I'm still a proponent for the south side so you and me guys but I think Costco felt strongly it's going to be their campus I mean I think if it was on the south side I'm not sure that you're gonna get most of the pedestrian traffic at the same time as the cars I think you can make a case for which side has the wider one I think we're fine deferring to their preference because I think there is a case for for either side I appreciate the explanation I think it's reasonable so I wouldn't have any further comment on changing it my second question was topic number two so there's the two renderings there and maybe it's just a matter of perspective the one on the left on the on the plaza level appears to have a much higher first floor plate is that accurate or is it just that it's farther away no what we were doing we were actually incorporating glass into the first level of parking so it looks like it's taller and we changed how that that all worked worked together on the on the second well we're not pulling the glass quite up as high but we're bringing that that bookend feature down a little further and okay well generally I think it's a good solution and and I appreciate the response and I'll just reserve some comments till we're even further comments boys for I'm sorry or the questions I have a question this may be for the city on the revised condition 5 I think that's on page 24 65 is that wording the additional wording and addition to condition 5 it's not a replacement for condition 5 correct condition 5 age 24 65 I'm talking about the wording of the slightly larger caliper trees and track day and so on sorry could you repeat your question about that condition yeah so so on page 24 of 65 the area marked new condition okay yes yes and it has to do with planning slightly larger caliper trees and so on it's is that an addition to the existing condition 5 above it it has not replaced the language of the condition 5 above it's that right yes that is correct it would be in addition to condition 5 brain stops oh thank you that's new condition 27 that is correct the applicant I had a question about on page 21 of 65m curious about the increase of the floor floor thickness I guess in building five it's going to increase by a few inches no therefore the building's going to be five feet higher is that because you anticipate the total width of that opening to be wider because of the walkability factor we've been talking about what would happen there is that we were originally showing 37 feet to provide this amount of walkability columns on either side of it supporting it after having some discussions with our structural engineer we found out that we're going to have to have a seismic break on one side or the other and so our first thought was to put a second row of columns in on one side and it was going to narrow that that corridor up to thirty three and a half feet well that didn't go over very well and so we then ate into the other side of our building but with with when we were only at thirty three and a half feet of span we were able to have the floor thicknesses be a certain thickness I think we're at ten inches but when we bump up to thirty seven feet of span and that needs to get thicker by five inches to span that much further and so what will happen we're not going to bump have a bump in each floor we'll put that thickness on the bottom but every floor is going to have to go up a little bit to accommodate that understand but we were talking about thirty seven feet last meeting correct yes that was known then that the floors would have to be thicker as if our line no we I didn't know about the fact that we had lost three three and a half feet for that seismic joint and columns okay one more I guess let's see page 22 of 65 that has to do with the corner added on building five the kind of bookend effect they're the renditions are really nice but I'm trying to get a sense of how this would appear from the street level as we're going by in the street then and we're looking up into that wood we see the lighting on the ceiling of the garage there there's no vertical screening left behind those windows correct that's correct yeah that would look kind of like prison bars almost I guess there's no there's no screening behind them there's on the other floors or we just have the slats you can see thickened horizontal members which are blocking car headlights we don't need those on this section where we have the bookend because the actual horizontal beams of the bookend are our blocking headlights but looking up here at night times you would you would see lights from the parking garage the actual lights in the building on the current Costco garage those things get operated on a timer now and they they come on when people come in at nighttime they come on they have motion sensors and they come on and once people leave they they turn off okay all my questions I have a couple questions the revised condition for doesn't have the language about processing an Aes for the through black passage is that because they've already applied for one did you say that is correct yes so we are presenting their application for the AAS at this meeting so that's why we deleted the language in revise condition 11 talking about blank walls on building 5 I'm not sure in here there's the only addition to this the third bullet point the trail users be exposed to routine walls over four feet yes I believe that is the only addition and that is to address that unique condition with the revised design of the trail to make sure that anything that any walls taller than four feet would be treated along the trail now I understand that they're not well I guess one question B was exposed being there's a retaining wall you could be on top of it or you could be facing it so does it mean that you would be looking into a retaining wall that's over four feet yes okay yes then but I thought with the new design we wouldn't have people looking into any retaining walls is that right with the new design can you go back to that other slide yep there's there's a section at the pond overlook so that's the section on top it's a fairly short section because the pond overlook is maybe 20 feet long but the applicants shown that it would be either retaining walls or columns so what columns you know there there wouldn't be a need to to treat the columns but if they did opted to go with retaining walls there then they would need to treat that retaining wall okay great thank you and then the other question I guess was we have a retaining wall now we're moving the trail up above the retaining wall where there would be points where the height the rotating wall would require railings or fencing along the path I think the assumption should be that there needs to be handrails along the entire length of it okay and that would just be something in a building permit I assume okay the condition 12 about the minimum 25% of the bicycle stalls would be in building four we discussed that I didn't see any change that and I don't know if I guess because my question is is it hamstringing the project too much we sort of discussed it wasn't a science behind it but a feeling of maybe 25 percent should be in building four but I didn't see anything from Costco either so I don't know if you have a feeling about does that create any problems or we talked about having it just as appropriate or so I think I think for predictability we would like to have a number but I also take your point that as this evolves it if it was 20 percent or if it went to 40 percent because that worked better that would not be a problem so I'm wondering if we did something where we were proposing or as approved by the directors so that we had that where you're meeting the same intent but as you said there isn't a specific societies and okay yeah will will write something up okay great the gifts that I'm good I think I'm good with questions thank you so now we can have comments it's the enemy questioner I'm fine want me to start yes please topic 10 sense of arrival from the east just just my commentary and feedback I'm inclined to agree with the applicant and now understanding that processional a little better I think once you hit that roundabout as you're coming down 62nd you're gonna have the beacon that that's gonna signal something then then there's gonna be this this amazing processional of this new bridge over the wetland that none of us have really experienced and I think that in and of itself is pretty gonna be pretty special and that that's enough of a sense of arrival it's not the main interest it's a pass-through even to the retail beyond so and then you do hit sort of an ode there you can take a ride and head into the Costco campus so I guess I'm inclined to agree that it's fine as is and I wouldn't place any additional conditions on a physical feature in my opinion that makes sense it does sorry and then um topic 11 sort of relates to that same edge and I think it's it doesn't necessarily meet the spirit of the code but I think it's a better reaction frankly to how it treats that street edge it creates sort of this many subordinate Plaza lead you into that through blocked passage and then gives way to that bigger Plaza that's it's internal so I think it's fine as is I wouldn't base any further conditions on staff to change that is to pick up on that point to the applicants discussing working with other businesses in Pickering to enhance the signage to give a sense of arrival to all the Pickering place and I really like that idea if it were more visible guess I have one question for the commissioners your opinion regarding the new treatment of the corner of building five the Northeast building corner how the commissioners feel about the lighting probably being visible in the ceiling of that garage from the street that an issue with you or not interested in your opinion I do know that most I think almost all probably new commercial garages would be set up on timers that will dim lights and come on as people or cars and through them most of the Costco employees seem to leave at five o'clock therefore whatever there's kind of an exodus out of there I think in most evenings when people come through most of those floors aren't going to be all that lit up with the way the lighting joiner it's encouraging we're not going to have an in fluorescent up there burning all night yeah so it will probably be LED and it probably won't be you know that different than the lights in the office buildings I mean if you think about it you you know on the upper floors when you look up you're looking at those ceiling lights as well and so you know with the sophistication of the lights either through the kinds of lens design we do require that the lights not throw light out of the garage and so we've worked with their lighting designers previously on Garage lighting and it you know it's a pretty sophisticated design even for garage lighting these days okay great we're not exactly the lady detail right now I understand right that's that's encouraging I think it's a good question there is last well I have well number one thank you very much both the staff and the applicant for all the work that you've done in short order and especially the changes like to building five and the frontage along building four there at the base I think they'll make great improvements and the the question about trees and the path I think everything being done is appropriate in terms of bringing more evergreen trees and I think we're all for that in general and I trust Costco is going to come up with something that's going to look good because of with a lot of employees looking out towards the trail during a lot of dark winter months I think wanting to see more evergreens as most most of us want to see that anyway so the the sense of arrival question you mentioned we were wondering what we thought we wanted and I think we thought the same thing this is I think the first time we faced this issue of a sense arrival into a district I would agree with the idea of about the roundabout creating the point but I think there will be a big sense of arrival just coming down the road and you go from a trail through wetland to a 10-story office building you'll know things have changed the I don't feel that there's a need to address signage wayfinding or monument at signage but I would highly encourage you to work with the other owners I think it's a great opportunity this is really becoming a major campus not that it isn't already been with 10-story office buildings it's a major campus and it's got a great history of Pickering it's a great history of Costco in Issaquah and I think especially where the new building is there could be some wonderful opportunity for signage there that would be fun for everybody in the built in line I agree with Commissioner price about that I think the bill to requirement in Cid's is really driven tour so a geometrically patterned downtown like streets that where everything comes up to the sidewalk and in this building this location isn't really fit for it anyway and I agree with Commissioner price about in terms of that opening plaza up and then pulling into the rest of the building works well too so however the math works out and however whenever we get to it I think it'll work just fine so thank you yeah I guess my count my comments are consistent of the cooperation and the effort you've made of working with the staff I think you've both done a really admirable job of accomplishing some some really innovative neat things in it and I think you mentioned that it was looking they were looking forward to it being a model or a you know a prototype of how to do things at least in the sustainability thing well I think it exceeds that so congratulations it looks like a good piece of work so I think we're ready to move on [Applause] so two things I didn't provide Jeanne with a very good model for how to write the motion so she's repeated the conditions that are already in the memo so these are not revisions that we're proposing that are distinct from those in the memo these are she repeated the conditions so there's no reason to read through all the text that's here except potentially editing condition 12 to add or as modified by the director consistent with the conditions the intent described in the staff report or or something to that effect and I can write it up on the screen if that would be helpful to you okay would would you like us just to read the front port and then and then the very bottom on the back where those are the two sort of standard yeah pieces of the motion okay do you want me to provide the edit for condition 12 or do you have a sense of it if you can that'd be great was it August is what was the date on the staff report reading then that would come at the end of the first sentence of that I believe I take you at your word yeah and it's yours to put where you want okay well mr. chair I move that the Development Commission approved site development permit number SDP 17-0 zero zero zero 1 with a Costco campus expansion building five project number PR j17 - zero zero zero zero eight as described and evaluated in the staff report dated from August 29 2018 with attachments one through twelve the briefing response memo dated September 28 2018 with attachments one through eight the project drawings and reports received August 18 2018 and all subsequent middles up to October 3rd 2018 and subject to the conditions contained in the staff report in revised and new conditions contained in the brief in response memo parentheses revised condition numbers 4 11 and 12 and new conditions number 27 and 28 could I make a friendly amendment that just at condition 12 as revised this evening because condition is condition 12 also revised in the memo no no so I since condition 12 isn't in the memo I think you need to specifically state what the revision is or as shown oh do you see what I'm saying because the memo doesn't capture the revision that you're interested in adding gotcha you could probably dementia motion so you don't have to read the whole thing again you know if I'm in the emotional he's a minute please do um so last paragraph or it says so revised conditions for and 11 and new conditions number 27 and 28 and revised condition number 12 as shown in the meeting tonight okay is there a second I would second emotion discussion all those in favor say aye aye opposed motion carries I think we need the second hat the second conditioner okay our second motion sorry mr. chair I move that the Development Commission directed development services department to prefer findings of fact and conclusions for review and approval by the Development Commission chair firming the development Commission's decision to approve the Costco campus expansion building five project site development permit SDP 17-0 zero zero zero one subject to the conditions listed in the staff report modified in the briefing response memo and as amended tonight second is there any discussion all those in favor say aye aye all those opposed motion carries I think we've come to a fairly rapid ending so I'd like to thank the participants especially thank Costco yeah I have done a really good job and I we appreciate it thank you then and so I will adjourn the meeting thank you thank you you you