welcome to the explicity Council work session for Monday December 10th 2018 and we are going to start this evening I'm going to ask mayor Polly to come forward and our first agenda item is going to be ID 0 3 7-6 for recognition of a certain outgoing council Thank You council president Mart's typically we like to do some recognition for those who have served on our council and are moving on to different things so if councilmember Rommels would come up to join me today that would be great for those of you not in this room but maybe watching on TV who are not familiar a council member Ramos is service I'd like to go over a few of the highlights bill started on city council in 2016 and he is in the third year of his term he has served on the council committee landed Shore committee as well as chaired the council Infrastructure Committee and served as a board member of Eastside Fire and Rescue our fire service as well he has represented us out in the region by serving on the King County Regional Transit Committee you site transportation partnership and the emergency management advisory committee so tonight I would like you to join me in thanking councilmember Ramos for his service to City Council we look forward to our new working relationship as he moves on to the state legislature representing us as a representative for the 5th district and I'd also like to take a moment to allow council president Mart's and others who would like to say a few words to join in our recognition appreciation tonight thanks mayor Pauly I just I want to convey a story that I think says a lot about bill as a as a public official so bill and I had worked together for a while but you know knew each other kind of up on the dais and but there was a thing that happened in the community that got me really really upset there was a vandalism at the local Muslim Association in Puget Sound up in Redmond and I was I was just really upset and I didn't know what to do about it but I knew that you know Billy come out of human services so I gave bill a call and I my voice was shaking I was just I was so upset because I felt like we as elected officials needed to do so being to show that that sort of stuff wasn't who we were as a community even though it was Redmond not Issaquah and it was great feels like my wife and I know some people up there we'll give them a call we'll let you know he set things up to introduce me to some folks up there they were having a public event for what for folks in the community to show their support there Polly I think you were there also so as a councilmember so the three of us all Wed but bill just he he knows folks in the community and he has such a big heart and it really helped me get my arms around doing something for a really awful situation and it also went from bill went from being a colleague to a friend so I just want to share that with the public as a measure of the man and as confidence that I know he'll do so well representing us at the next phase of his career Thank You council president marks would anybody else care to share anything Beauty council president Vitesse so I just wanted to first of all you just really want to wish you well bill I'm very excited for this new chapter and you're you're such a dedicated servant to to Issaquah and to the whole area and just really wishing you well and you know I've gotten to know you now we I think we six or seven years ago we both started on the economic vitality Commission and the Human Services Commission and sat on both of those commissions and got to know each other and just always learned so much by working side by side with you and and then following you and the chair positions through human services to City Council's so just really wishing you well and very very excited for this new chapter and I'm so honored and happy that I had the opportunity to work with you on council as well Thank You deputy president Patti's council member we're just a thank you bill enjoy Olympia I appreciate all that you've done for the community and and you and I do also go back to the Human Services Commission many years ago so I think you're now moving to a place with with the passion that I saw on you there in Olympia there's a lot you can do really make a difference in more people's lives and I know you carry that passion with you to Olympia and and I'll be anxious to follow and and participate as much as I can as you try to go do the right thing for this whole state of Washington thank you Oh councilmember hunt um it's hard to follow but follow all of the great comments which I agree with but I wanted to say that councilman Ramos has really instilled in me the importance of making connections and connecting with people in the community and I hope to go forward and do that and he's been I think a great example of that and I wish you well and thank you anyone else Curtis anything I want to thank you I want to thank you all for your comments that's wonderful and I also want to remind you that your first meeting with our representative will be tomorrow morning at our legislative breakfast so you are not going to be missing him for long bill thank you for everything that you have done so proud of you thank you and we take a picture Thank You Emily thank you both thank you for having letting me have the time to come up today thank you madam mayor just thank you so much for all those kind words it has been my honor and privilege to work with all of you all the city staff as well as all the councilmembers I've just I've enjoyed it so much that's why I'm trying to do do more know that the one thing I'll be always judging everything I look at is are we building community and what we're doing and I will always be looking after cities and how things happen there that affect cities because that's just you know peace that come from it I know a lot of folks down there don't have that background so it'll be something always you're looking forward to to take care of and you all know where I live so around the corner thank you all very much if you council member Ramos and we're gonna hold you to that we're gonna remind you that we've got tape down so there you have it with that we're gonna move on to agenda bill 75 38 updated water system plan and this is we're gonna the conversations going to be headed up by Sheldon Linn our Director of Public Works engineering Thank You council president council I'm Sheldon Lin Director of Public Works engineering and tonight we're gonna brief the council kind of summarize what's been going on in the conversations with the council about the policy issues associated with the water system plan update from June through September the council had three work sessions in which it discussed three major policy issues associated with the water system plan those were water conservation slash demand projections the supply operating options and treatment for the supply when September 10th the last council workshop the council requested additional information and detail regarding the financial pro formas on the supply options as well as additional opportunities for community engagement in November of this year the council Infrastructure Committee held the first option or first opportunity since then for community engagement and tonight is the second opportunity for community engagement tonight the consultant jeffrey hansen of HDR will provide you with the additional information regarding the financial pro formas summarize the previous workshops and then be open for discussions and questions if they're already from the council the goal of this is that currently the agenda bill sits in the council infrastructure committee arena and in January the committee is expected to bring the agenda bill back to Council with a recommendation regarding the water system plans adoption so with that I'm going to hand it over to Jeffrey Hanson of HDR the consultant helping us with the water system plan welcome thank you thanks Sheldon pull up a very brief PowerPoint presentation we have for this evening well good to see you all again it's been quite a ride throughout the past few months as a Sheldon mentioned tonight is intended to be a fairly brief recap and really highlight things that have changed since we were all together last so this slide really hits what Sheldon already mentioned this water system plan update process began last year in planned development extended into early part of this year as Sheldon just mentioned for the past few months council has been discussing various policy related items regarding conservation water supply options and then water quality and treatment and then again as Sheldon mentioned since the last time we were all together as full council in work session in September we updated the pro formas and the cost risk analysis of the three water supply options and I'll highlight those updates in a moment we have also don't want to forget that this draft water system plan has already gone out for external review at the State Department of Health level King County adjacent water purveyors such as Sammamish Sammamish plateau water we received comments in late summer those comments have all been responded to and we've now sent those responses back out to the state into the county and we're seeking confirmation that those responses satisfy all of those comments and we have also begun the CEPA process related to this plan that was initiated late last week that will extend through December so moving right along again as mentioned we updated the pro formas provided the pro formas to council for for review and the results of that are summarized here numbers changed a little bit due to revisiting of some of the assumptions with city staff and the bottom line result of all of this is reminder that we were looking at three water supply options moving into the future option one is maintaining the city's groundwater supplies and blending that with regional cascade supplies option 2 was to move away from using the wells and only utilizing regional supply there's two sub options there then option three is really a spin-off of option one which is blended but do a lot of infrastructure work rework the the valley zone to defer the need for bringing in regional supply into the valley zone bottom line when we look at this over a 20-year present value cost perspective incorporating incorporating both capital and annual O&M costs the the total twenty year present value costs of option one comes in as the lowest second highest would be option three that reduced groundwater area and then the regional options are higher than that I'll stop there open it for questions if there are questions on that cost analysis comes mega winter's night thank you and if you have this later on writes in the material please just say so sure is there any difference on the revenue side of the formula for these three options so the city provides a service and we get paid for that service right and I realize that might not be a simple answer because I know that we do we do rates based upon actual expenses graded but why why is that not part of what we're seeing here in so so right this is not looking at the revenue side the right side this is simply the cost what is there an assumption in there then about the right side well I mean the core assumption is what you just spoke to a moment ago that you establish your rates and update your rates periodically based on cost of service so those are cost of service based rates and so that analysis of determining actual rate impacts in rate changes was not a part of this water system planned effort that's a secondary kind of follow-on effort to this in a formal rate study which is scheduled and budgeted to occur next year 2019 so yes this analysis doesn't look at that revenue side I mean the assumption is that the city would recoup those costs you know with whatever pathways is chosen and that's my line of questioning he is forgiven forgive me we we did just emerge from our operational budget which also had a capital component we're not done with that actually we're gonna pick up capital again and it's easy to look at this to say Wow and I haven't done a cross-reference with with our capital plan and I imagine these options obviously aren't going to be there but I guess maybe I'd like to hear from staff then is what the expectation would be there's an assumption that or maybe what our policies are when it comes to covering costs for capital operation and as a water purveyor you know what what what is the kind of the revenue side of the assumption that I should be aware of as we look at these options so so I'm moving forward Geoffrey's right I we do have in 2019 Council budgeted for a rate study in the water utility and the utility operates as a nonprofit enterprise fund and its goal is to make sure that it recovers the cost associated with the necessary capital and operating expenditures of the utility the the percentages of what these costs would be that would go towards new development ie connection charges versus existing customers which would be your rate base we haven't sat down and dialed that in but it's gonna be a combination of connection charges and rate based cost recovery for these facilities does that answer your question I think what you're saying is that between connection and rates connections and rates if we follow our policies then these numbers also represent the kind of money we'll be raising to deliver the service that's correct that and so you can look at these numbers and think kind of in proportion what type of fees might residents and property owners may experience we look at these numbers that that's correct and it depends on how the utility funds these improvements if the utility funds it through bonded indebtedness it changes the the rates and the connections are there's a number of things that play a role in what happens to the rates associated with these facilities okay that's all for now thank you other questions I've got one yeah so let's say so constant of array lives in talus let's say he spends ten bucks a month on water it's probably not right but councilmember Goodman lives in the highlands let's say she spends ten bucks a month on water I live on squawk yeah I spent ten bucks a month on one I get that different options are gonna impact us differently from here but is there any would there be any potential spatial variation on the impacts of these different options between the three of us living in different locations right well I think Sheldon probably speak to that too yeah yeah no the council has a number of years ago adopted a policy of no geographical advantage or disadvantage for its utility customers we're and we're in this together as a community and so the rates across the community from Montreux to the Highlands to talus to squawk Mountain to Old Town everybody pays the same rates okay thank you other questions right now okay all right so that's the update on that on the cost analysis of the supply options so now then and this is one of the main things that was modified since September when we looked more in depth at that so now to kind of bring this all home kind of recap the summary overall of some of the the big things that are laid out in the water system plan update this is a summary of what we're referring to as the integrated solution to the biggest challenge that was identified in the plan and that need just to recap was the fact that regional water supply will be needed by sometime between approximately 20 21 and 20 27 in the areas of the city that currently utilized only groundwater supply so the integrated solution to that incorporates conservation so maintaining continued implementation of your existing conservation program converting talis back to regional supply recall that Tallis for a time was on regional supply has been transitioned off back to groundwater but can readily go back to utilizing regional supply and then the construction of a centralized treatment and blending facility which really satisfies multiple objectives it upgrades your existing treatment processes prepares you for future regulatory changes and supports this concept of blending regional water with the groundwater supply it's kind of a three-pronged overall water supply solution into the future questions on that was it more interesting and just to be clear I think you've already said this that the talus conversion is just why are you recommending that I mean it's just to extend the time window that we have right yep exactly if the demands increase as projected I remember we looked at a range right we don't have that perfect crystal ball but on the high end of that range if demands were to increase increase as projected and if you were to have a supply shortfall as early as say 2021 2022 the city would be very hard-pressed to implement this this centralized treatment facility by that amount of time you know within that amount of time so this conversion to tell us is kind of a if needed component of this solution that that can happen to by the city time to implement that centralized facility okay thank you and as a follow-up is talus the only part of town that's a candidate that for it to occur in that manner yes because infrastructure wise talus was set up to be able to receive regional water so it's very easy to to modify things right now turn valves and redirect regional supply into Tallis there's no other portion of the city it's my question that's currently that way thank you mm-hmm I'll ask you a question under this recommended solution what does the fluorination chlorination map look like at the end of the day so this is yet another policy decision or policy item for council to discuss into next year we've talked about this before that if by implementing this solution you still have a range of options open to you for what happens with respect to fluoridation throughout the city regional supply has fluoride in it your groundwater supply does not so if you were to bring fluoridated water into the system and not remove that fluoride then by the end of the implementation of all three prongs of this there would most likely be fluoride throughout the city but there are different ways to manage that do you add fluoride to keep levels of fluoride to a certain level do you allow ambient mixing the fluoride or remember the other end of the spectrum is potentially removal of fluoride from the regional water so as to not introduce fluoride into the system so by implementing this three-pronged solution there's no set decision made on the fluoride question there's not if it's not taking a policy decision but it would result in some some amount of fluoride going to the general population if no action were taken no actually the no action option mm-hmm yes all right that's right I just was just curious other questions right now okay one last slide just to kind of show you and this kind of gets to that point that was just raised about the fluoride question quick overview of the timeline I'm not going to go through all of these steps this is just here really for your reference and to indicate obviously where we are here tonight December 10th in work session and to hit a couple highlights here as Sheldon mentioned the plan moving forward is in January for council Infrastructure Committee Infrastructure Committee to refer this out back to Council for action with respect to adoption of the water system plan which could they conceivably take place on January 22nd as you then move into further into 2019 and 2020 we have various items here about the implementation of this integrated solution and one of those items is this topic of fluoridation again implementation of this recommended approach does not tie you to one option or the other with respect to fluoride more conversation to be had on that in 2019 any other questions on next steps or timeline what's behind on the timeline we had discussed this earlier I think that this is probably the same slide that we saw earlier but I think that and I'll speak for myself I think my preference would be to have that discussion happen in early 2019 I don't see why we're contemplating early 2020 for the fluoride discussion sorry just a point of clarification on that miss Hine the what he's saying is as the council action on that policy could be in 2019 the conversations are going to begin in early 2019 as we move forward with bench scale testing and pre design efforts associated with the the treatment facility there questions all right okay well that really brings me to the conclusion of tonight's formal presentation so but it's open for any other further discussion or questions come to mind wintertime didn't talk about SEPA what are you what alternatives are you are you gonna be they're gonna be evaluated as part of supa so the CEPA process for the water system plan itself as a non project action does not have specific alternatives as a part of it so the CEPA for the water system plan does not explore any other alternatives than what have been presented here as this project of a centralized treatment and blending facility moves forward as a unique project SEPA as a part of that effort will would then explore alternatives with respect to them to that project and we're not at that stage yet specific to the project is that answer to that question you did I'm just yeah I assumed there would be alternatives if you're gonna do SEPA I thought you had two well you would for a for a prime you know this for a project specific SEPA that's evaluating impacts of moving forward with construction of a particular project there you would be looking at alternatives to understand the variances and impacts between different options then let me ask it about this way the the question about fluoridation you said one end of the spectrum is we could remove it yeah now and I don't know if that's Matic enough of a thing to try to do that you would have to wow you know SEPA has to look at yes we do that we don't we do that but that would that's what kind of prompted that question in my mind is from a super perspective do we have to consider those alternatives you know all I'm not sure if the CEPA specifically on that project would have to look at alternatives with respect to treatment on fluoride I don't think so because we're really looking at construction related impact we're thinking of SEPA always know the the CEPA wouldn't have to evaluate alternatives for fluoride unless the decisions being made affect the environmental impact of the project itself the decisions whether or not to fluoridate or not to fluoridate or you know the in between our policy decisions unless they impact the I'll say the external impact of the project itself SEPA doesn't evaluate okay that answered my question you're saying that service wouldn't have an environmental impact right right no picking their heads no okay thank you correct all right other other questions I'll have a I have a question for City Administrator moon so this conversation has to do with debt capacity but doesn't necessarily have to do directly with our the other conversations we've been having about capital expenditure can you speak a little bit to that topic and how this relates to the conversations that we'll have in 2019 sure most of the conversations we've been having and those that we will be having beginning in January about unfunded capital projects have been about general fund projects and the constrained revenue sources for those and the ability for the general fund to pay any new increment of debt service so utility fund as an enterprise fund has dedicated revenue and we have ability to set up that revenue system in a way that funds the capital improvements that we wish to take on and then plan in that way general fund is is a little bit different in its design so you don't see any of our decisions that we make around capital investiture that we're going to be have around transportation and Recreation and any of those things having a potential it's fully decoupled from our options here it is although you know to be clear anytime we're asking our residents to pay anything more we have to be cognizant of the overall burden so it's just that these revenue sources are very very different and the utility fund is really on a usage basis it's just structured differently so I I will be decoupling those conversations but I want to be upfront about the fact that yes overall total cost of services is an important thing to contemplate thank you well thank you for the presentation another one I realized so I I do appreciate the cost risk analysis that you provided it's a it's a twenty year window mm-hmm Sheldon I'll do how do those numbers compare to what we have spent say over the past twenty years ten years even you have any idea what increment over what we've had to do to instruct maintain deliver service would this represent if I remember the numbers correctly now is this isn't historical expenditures but the revenues in the utility are somewhere around five to six million dollars a year total revenues and we pretty much spend those revenues annually so we're looking at over a twenty year period you know adding you know what 40 divided by five eight million dollars more per year so roughly doubling if my numbers in my head are working right the way I would read it the option one which is blended groundwater regional if that 20 year cost is 40 million over 20 years that's yeah roughly 22 million a year so it's 2 million more--not to me a year sorry that's way off I'm ok so and so this is just a very rough back of the napkin if today we need revenues to cover roughly 5 million dollars in expenditures to add this is the low-cost option is an additional 2 million and then the higher cost highest cop cost option is quite a bit higher so yeah it just goes up from there so I can just very roughly say you know we might be looking at minimally a 40% increase in cost yes yep this back of the napkin yeah connection charges may offset some of that too it's for that qualifier yeah thank you for the correction on my math wait any other questions oh all right well thank you again for the presentation I appreciate it you City Administrator move ahead we put you on the spot and we're gonna move on to ID zero three seven zero resourcing plan Title 18 land use code and green necklace by our very own economic can development services director Keith Niven swarthy interesting colors both on your shirt and I wouldn't want to disappoint good evening council president marks director of economic development development services so to refresh your memories when we were going through budget this year there was some conversation about the update of Title 18 which is the land use code and the green necklace and during that conversation we talked about when we could get those work products done and there was at least a sense of urgency that I think was expressed by the City Council to do that work so what we talked about that evening to refresh our memories was that there is besides the additional budget appropriation there's there going to be a taxing of existing staff that are gonna be needed to help do that work and I'll get into that in a little bit but we weren't ready to talk about what that meant that evening and so this is what we're gonna do tonight so I want to go through this fairly briefly but I want to explain what's going on with Title 18 so this is tile 18 all the sections within it all the chapters within it and as you can see there's a number of updates that are going on I'm gonna go through these and just quickly explain and we can go into more detail if you'd like so out of eighteen oh four procedures one of the things that we had already identified in our work plan was to update public notice what we've known for a long time is that public notice in city code as a relates to development projects is not very effective and we've been experimenting with changing you know think about the big whiteboards that are out on development sites and those are really hard for people to get a sense for what those mean even if they stop and read every word and so we've started working with Gateway and Vale and Ennis Wood to do something different a little bit more graphic but that's going to require some updates in the code we've talked about I'm gonna go to environmental protection right now we're updating our shoreline master plan and that's something that we've started this year we're gonna send out an RFP for but that needs to be updated it's mandated by Department of Ecology signs we're updating our sign section Gilbert versus Reed content-based signs in the right away and needs to be changed but we also have like five sign codes in the city of Issaquah and part of what we're trying to do is consolidate that and funnel it down Old Town plan you guys just adopted the old town plan update thank you very much part of that is changing a number of codes that are currently in Old Town and then wireless communication you know we like to when we when we do our codes we like them to at least sit for a year before we have to update them sadly due to the FCC decision we have to come back and tweak our wireless communication code to be consistent with the FCC decision and then the green necklace so right now central Issaquah the what we call the SIDS the central is quad development and design standards there is a chapter 7 which is community spaces that talks about parks and open spaces and that's where the green necklace update needs to be inserted it would actually be part of the 18 update the way I see it but we have to write code to be consistent with that vision that you guys adopted as part of the park strategic plan so all of these things are happening all at once it's a lot of work besides just making the code easier to read and to look for the disconnects between policy and code because as we know there's a lot in our comp plan and it just doesn't translate well to city code there's a lot to do here but I needed to set up that framework before we get further into this so one of the things questions that came to mind was has anybody else overhauled their land-use code and if so how long did it take and did they use a consultant so I reached out to Mrs C and said hey can you pull planning directors and let me know who out there has done this recently so I was a little bit less than thrilled with the cities that came back what I would take from this list here is you know it really it really takes about a year and a half I mean what that means is really drafting the code in in a calendar year and then going through the adoption process in six months you know most of them have used consultants West Richland if you want to read the notes they're on two years counting the because they didn't use a consultant it's just kind of an ongoing process for them to continue update their code so this was the best I could do again what I would take away from this is it really needs to be kind of a year and a half to two years to get completed so to kind of recap what was in the memo so in the in the 2019 budget we originally had appropriated sixty-seven thousand dollars and then there was an additional 140 that was added by the city council so at 207 what what's in the box so to speak how do we how do we get more staff time to work on the code update to move it faster if that's what the council wants we actually have to either have a consultant come in and off burden existing staff work because really the people that need to have their hands on this is really myself Lucy and Trish I mean we know the code we know the policies best a consultants not going to be able to figure that out they're just not so you're gonna have to have a certain amount of staff time to actually move this along in a productive way so how do you do that you either you have to bring additional resources into off burden that existing staff from their work plan that's already full so so here's the choices the way I saw it was you know if we don't add additional resources you know my guess is we could get it done by 2021 July we could push it I think this was a question council member winter Stein asked you know if I'm gonna pay more what's the what's how much quicker can it be I think the answer back from the administration is we could knock a year off it if you wanted to add additional resources to this effort so this is I think where I stopped talking and I think I'll look for questions would like to start okay I'll start so I'm looking in the materials and it's it's sort of the background material on how you get to the numbers that you get I had one that jumped out at what jumped out was that a in 2080 in 2080 our work here somebody could do 832 project hours and that that the value of those 832 hours would be a hundred and sixty two thousand dollars couple things jump out at me that that I appreciate that you put the information above how you got to forty percent utilization I would submit that most people who bill it forty percent utilization in most professional organizations that's considered a low number but the other thing the bigger question that I have is that presupposes a Senior Planner has an internal bill rate of just shy of $400,000 a year several time so that's probably not reading very well then so let me clarify so the annual salary of a Senior Planner is the 162 seven it's assuming though for that calendar year that you brought maybe a limited term employee on only forty percent of their time would be usable to project related work so that's so the important was generating that eight hundred and thirty two hours so the cost is you can't bring a well you could bring a part-time staff on and I think part of the reason why the administration is saying if you want to go with staff we're suggesting two years to get someone in who has the experience and the ability that we would be seeking but getting to that eight thirty two because then that translates down to the 125 under the consultant line-item so so what I did was we don't we don't have a metric for how many project hours I work a year or Emily works a year hopefully she doesn't work any a year but getting but using an industry norm and maybe that forty forty percent number was was is not accurate but that's the best one I could find but that generated the eight thirty two which then I bumped to nine fifteen under a consultant to get a comparable cost for a different type of resource that makes sense sure it was a methodology to try and get an apple - an apple comparison all right other questions or no other questions about the options in France councilmember hunt could you go back to the slide with the different parts of the chapter that will be updated the green necklace part so is affected by the changes that we are making here are the other timelines to these other parts of the overhaul affected I read that it will take at least six months but is the timeline then the regardless of the other parts of the chapter that will be updated then this will be on top of that or how does that sequencing work sure let me see if I can answer this so everything that's got a box on this page has its own specific timeline because it's significant enough that it does there's changes we see a complete change to title 18 so things that don't have things identified like 1801 1802 1803 those are all going to change but because they don't have a significant work item component I didn't highlight them here so all of the all of the chapters within 18 will change as part of this process we see doing next year but some of them will have significant changes that will require additional staff time like public notification I can't I can't ask a consultant to just start that because we already know where we want to go with the public notice because we've been pilot testing it this last year so we will provide them with direction on what to do there and then they will ultimately draft it into code language which will be incorporated into 1804 so so that'll happen that might take that might only take a couple months you know but it will happen within the subset of the the amount of time it'll take to overdue the whole chapter because the idea would be you draft up all the new code language and then you go out to the public because there's a huge public component piece to this to make sure that everybody has a chance to weigh in before you start going to PPC and Landon Shore we could do it individually but that be a lot of work at both Planning Commission and council committee to do it independently and not as a complete package so what we're what we're suggesting is drafting all the changes and then taking through the public adoption process afterwards as a complete package and part of why part of my question is about what what changes in that sequencing because would you do that step going out to the public whether or not the green necklace portion gets added in right so it is the timing of that affected by adding in the central Issaquah area development and design standards in green necklace part of the chapter update well let me answer let me see if I answer your question and if not please ask it again so right now if we're on a trajectory to write it all in twelve months and then go through a six month adoption process then the green necklace piece would happen in concert with all the other pieces if if we go to a longer time frame we could stage some of them sooner than others so for example I don't know that there's any magic so so like the wireless communication facilities that one's basically almost done I would hope to maybe have it to infrastructure in January you know so that one is is moving at a very fast pace because we know what it needs to be some of these others might have a longer gestation period in the public because there's no code relating to it right now and the green necklace would be one of those because we're writing all new code to implement the vision that was adopted as part of this strategic plan so that's gonna have a lot more public touch I could see Parks Board PPC and maybe even some general public meetings on that particular one don't smell good night Keith can you go back to the slide that had that with the options yes please can you explain two and three a little more please sure so if the council wants so the big difference between 2:00 and 3:00 I think is the completion date I think there's a year quicker there's a year taken off as opposed to option one which is do it under the 207 and part of the way we get there is we bring in some additional resources to offer an existing development services staff to work on other projects and I listed I gave you guys some choices in the memo that we would probably be able to assign to a consultant or to a new staff member which would free up some of the key staff that would be needed for title 18 so you're not so the the anticipated estimated completion date would be July 20 24 2 or 3 number 3 is more but both of them involved both a consultant and LTE staff would be not working on the code it would be other work right because so go ahead sorry I have appreciated in the past couple of years having consultants having fresh eyes on our code so I don't know that I'm that I I think you would have to say more about that or why you because they are they're not firms out there consultants out there who are who work with cities and counties on probably not the county line code so so what I'm trying to avoid the reason why I'm suggesting we do it the way we do so the 207 will be spent on a consultant or maybe two consultants we might hire a planning firm to come in and write the code and maybe a legal firm to actually then QC it at the end why I wouldn't suggest bringing another consultant in to then also work on the code writing is is that ego thing where you have two consultants working on the same project and so rather than getting that consultant conflict to deal with what I would suggest is having the consultant if you chose to bring in a consultant how that consultant do some of staff's work which would then free staff up to work with the consultant that we hire under the 207 contract to actually move it forward you know in a more expedient manner okay and so then why would we choose number three over number two if it's more money so the pros the reason why you'd go three over - so - so the reason why you'd hire consultant is it's less money and you could bring them on faster than staff the reason why you choose staff is it gives us a little bit more flexibility to work on some other things but I mean it's it's your choice that's why we tried to list the pros and the cons on the memo yeah interesting I'm gonna ask you two questions go back to your slide where you show your work plan that would that one that's it there are significant work plan items that aren't on your work plan that are not part of title 18 absolutely so that's that's listed in the memo and you don't have those in a slide anywhere and did not put them in a slide sorry that's okay that's fine and okay there's the okay so now go to [Music] go back to the options this says we have to spending options but either one allows us to get all of that including the green necklace codification a year sooner yes and what you didn't contemplate it all was was well option option limit Lim before I ask that question option one still assumes some sequencing that's different that option two and three such as the start of the work on the me necklace codification so so here's the thing we're gonna sit down we haven't picked a consultant yet right we're gonna sit down with the consultant and say okay here's all the stuff that needs to get done some of this is being done by staff with other consultant expertise coming in for example the sign consultant and the title 18 consultant will pine not be the same consultants and so could be but they may not be and so this shoreline master plan might be a better one that's probably not going to be the same we're gonna have an environmental consultant help us with the shoreline Master Plan Update so what's going to happen is that consultant will do their work there will be a work product which will then be handed over to the 207 consultant who will then put it into the framework to fit it into the new code the new title 18 update but is but one of the things that that you were alluding to council member is so like things on our work plan like the impact fee updates doing buildable lands doing the housing strategies all those things are irrespective of this conversation I think one of the things which is maybe choice zero would be if you wanted to do no additional resources and have us try and hit a 2020 timeline it may require some of those things off the work plan well--that's we're actually where I was going am not advocating that I'm just trying to understand the various scenarios obviously for different reasons some of them are legislated to us right and again there's times such as the shoreline Master Plan Update I think some things we have to do with the FTC as well and but but is there an option I I'm not sure if what we were saying a budget was the cauda fication of the green necklace into title 18 is priority number one I'm not sure if we were saying that I don't know if you had that conversation I mean there's a lot of important things but if it was is there even another option is what I'm saying it's like you know there's like there are things we have to do but let's take this one and slot this one and we're just going to start work on this right away it's still going to take us a year and a half we get it done in in 2020 but then the other things are gonna slide there has to be some other things that slide did you did you look at that yes so you could take this table on page four of the memo so I'll just I'll just go ahead and put table for 3b density and diversity of housing as one of those things right where so it's it's it's a big staff analysis I mean it's gonna take some time for us to figure that out that we said we do that next year you know we have two housing strategies yet to finish we were gonna do those next year so so all these things on in that table all those things have been kind of identified buildable lands we have to do that that's that's a obligation of GMA so if you guys said yeah you guys you can defer that one I can't defer that one the park impact fee update can't defer that one it needs to we need to finish that it's overdue so there's some of these things I think would be really hard to say kick that one to the curb that's where hunt if I'm sorry we're not really say kick any of to the curb I mean it's just just we're gonna potentially reshuffle so I guess I appreciate it I appreciate what you're saying what I'm where I'm sitting right now what I'm thinking is as you've outlined it here the question I mean we've already authorized spending yes so the question I guess I'm changing my question in real time your question to us isn't whether to spend or is it right or is is it more of which of these options do you think we should follow my boss is looking antsy so I'm gonna I think what we committed to with the additional dollars is that we would hire the consultant that would help our staff do the work to incorporate the green necklace and Sentra squad code update but we said in order for staff to spend its time on that piece that was above and beyond what we had forecasted and what we're able to cover with our existing labor and so we needed to either take some off the plate to free up their time or we need to add another individual that would assist with that or professional services that would take other tasks off their plate so we haven't solved the labor equation we solved the consultant dollar equation in the budget okay and then then this says still haven't an outstanding question about labor right like for that extra money we can bring it all in including the green necklace a year earlier that is what Keith is proposing all right thank you let's remember hunt in the background section there are some different tasks than what's in that table where the estimated staff hours are listed and one of the ones that has stood out to me is the visions the village revisiting and I wondered what the estimated hours for that would be and if that's a potential trade-off and my my rationale there is that this green necklace is implementation of a plan and of a vision and so I would like to see that encode versus a revision enforce still working on that that codes sure so sadly that's not that many hours you know what was envisioned when we talked about the replacement regulations for the Highlands and talus there was some conversation about changing the land uses and having a different vision for some of those remaining to be developed properties and part of what the council talked about at the time was let's go ahead and put the replacement regulations in place and go back out to the villages a you know within a year and have a conversation with the community to see if that live-work-play vision was still an important piece of living in those neighborhoods so I don't think it's a lot of hours I think it's probably you know a couple community meetings so maybe it's 20 hours that doesn't get us very far sometime of a ray I mean I need a little bit of a retrospective here so my recollection is when we were discussing this during budget deliberations the issue on the table was the code chapter 18 plus the green necklace updates was part of the mayor's budget that correct but it had it had a completion date something like July of 2002 administrative oh no the green necklace was not included in the back okay so that was just for the title 18 update was what was in the mayor's budget and we had originally the original allocation envisioned kind of a like a three-phase approach to getting that title updated it was a little it was a more modest approach given I think budgetary concerns so because was it and I could be wrong but it was my thinking and that the intent when we were talking about the additional $140,000 that we added into the budget that evening was to accelerate this process so that we could do it faster than 2021 is that wrong I think that we put a placeholder in and we said we were gonna have the administration come back to us with a revised number right so I guess what I'm struck 'la struck with is the 2019 budget number of 67 plus 140 the 207 included some additional resources to accelerate the process B and pull it back from a 2021 date because it was the will of this body that this was something important and we wanted to move this faster mi thought mi recollecting wrongly before I answer that I let cg administrator moon have a comment not entirely but the difference is that labor component we had not solved that piece so we only added the consultant dollars in order to part way enable that to happen as Keith mentioned that 67,000 that was for Title 18 was either one-third or two-thirds of the total amount we thought we would need just for the title 18 work and we envisioned that being a two or more year process to get that work done so the 140 allowed us to bring on additional consulting services that would enable us to work faster on it except that with every consultant you also have to have added staff time this is an another chunk of the code writing work and so we need to free up our staff time as well okay that answers your question that answers my question I'm just not sure I buy it all all right I was remember Hunt I have it I think I have a follow-up question so if we had not authorized the 140 what would the timeline look like with but yeah no so just that 67 no so I think I think what we had envisioned was the title 18 would be updated maybe by the end of 2021 and the green necklace would be reliant upon an additional council appropriation maybe in 2020 so so there was there was no clarity on when the green necklace piece would be so originally what was brought forward was updating title 18 you know there's there's some savings to doing the green necklace as part of title 18 since it's part of the SIDS and so we've pulled them together where I think the original conversation was thinking about the green necklace as its own work project it does for me it doesn't make sense for it to be its own work project if we're gonna update Title 18 anyway so I think there's some savings to bring it in and do it as part of that bigger process but I think I think it was that 67 didn't envision the green necklace piece that was a whole other work project that was I think being assumed would be done in 2020 because of Parks departments proposed 2019 work plan was full all right is that into question and so so then title 18 without the green necklace would have been completed I 2021 and then in 2020 we would have had a discussion about doing the green necklace piece separately with the unknown and Dave but after 20 anyone at some point after that probably would have been completed as a separate work pass the package that we're comparing to I think so all right deputy council president booties so Keith and could you just speak to the differences that that you see just from I guess staff perspective and that kind of thing in terms of getting the the work done under option two or three with the consultant for the twelve months or the LTA staff for two years they're they're both obviously there's cost difference they're both slated for July 2020 right so I I think I think I think so one of the things I guess if you're asking me which one I think would provide better value and my boss might disagree with me but I believe number two would be I think it's it's less cost it would we could bring them on quicker and assuming we got the right consulting firm I think you could offload a number of projects on to them almost immediately bringing on LTE staff the the advantage to that piece is you have someone who is fully here at the city as opposed to maybe partially here and partially working for other municipalities and so you don't have to vie for their time you know where they are and what they're thinking about they also have a better ingrained perspective on our community if you've hired if the consultant hired under to has never worked for Issaquah before they may not really understand some of the nuances of our community and that's always hard to instill in someone if they haven't worked here before so so there's definitely some pros on both of those choices but I think I think it's probably just a little bit more of a management issue on number two but you know I I'm not worried about that I guess councilman awareness time as bringing this green necklace forward as we're envisioning it's really it's really kind of putting more through the system it's just a short period of time right we need we need we need more capacity to get more done over a certain amount of time then our workload and the resources we're using will readjust a more of a normal we're just we're trying to get something bigger through the system so I appreciate this it seems clear to me I think it's a it's simple you're saying instead of some time maybe after 2020 I have two options to get all of 18 and the green necklace done in 2020 or I actually have misspoke instead of sometime after 2021 yeah I have two options for getting all of title 18 and the green necklace done in 2020 that's what you're doing this Thanks that seems like maybe it might be a good time to segue to going around the table to get people's thoughts so start at that end let's put you on the spot councilman beret but I'm gonna put you in the spot my I'm still going back to what I thought was in the original budget which was that we were going to update title 18 it was going to be a two-year process and was going to cost 67 thousand dollars this year in 67 now there's next year we went through a fairly long and protracted process because there was a desire to move that up particularly as related to the green necklace which was my understanding was included in title 18 and Keith did you go back a slide it looks like it's part of haidle 18 so 18 point 19 a would be part of title 18 is I recollect ik so if I am wrong that's fine and I know we had a long discussion that night about staffing and resources in one hundred and forty thousand dollars was a was a swag at best and and that's why we're having this discussion but the numbers aren't adding up for me I can't the zero dollar thing should be a sixty seven thousand zero dollar thing not a $207,000 zero dollar thing so I can't I'm having a very difficult time wrapping my brain around the the evolution of the mathematics of how we got from there to there so so I just don't understand the the process that we've gone through to go from that evening in November to this evening in December all right well that sounds like a vote for maybe bringing it back after with with additional subsequent conversation and and supplemental information coming back I will say I do appreciate the administration trying to come back quickly on this one after the budget but I'm going to take that as as a vote to not make a decision this evening I would I would like to study this some more gotcha councilmember Goodman I think we're gonna have time to look at it some more anyway because it would have to come back in the form of an agenda bail anyway so my recollection is that the whatever we had in the budget for 2019 was the purple noted Title 18 updates up there dot the green necklace that's what that's what generated the discussion and the concern the options on your option page 1 2 3 I mean yet I'm hard pressed to see why why - wouldn't be the one we would turn to it's less expensive I don't know I also don't know why in the world we would as a city take I think you said ending on without any extra money that we thought maybe it would take until the end of 2021 that's three years I really I mean if I miss I'm fine with citizen and we have all these code updates to do and it's taking three years I think that's insane and and why wouldn't we put more money to it to get it done and put more resources to it to get it done that to me that just I just can't even I can't wrap my head around that so anyway I would like to see an agenda bill come forward and at this point I would look pretty hard at number two Thank You councilmember hunt I agree with councilmember Goodman I think that option two of those put forward is the one that expedites the process and it expedites the process for less money and I think it's really important that as part of our code update that we do include the green necklace so I would look forward to more information in the agenda bill I will say that I think the one piece of information that would really help with the timeline would be just also giving that that option what what time line change did we get with the 140 from the base budget of just the 67 because we verbally went through that it's a lot of numbers jumbling so I think having that in the timeline would help us remember winters time thanks Kate Keith this is complex topic I drew under spent understand it much better than when we talked about during budget and and I just per my comments earlier I think option 2 for the consultants is fine but I I questioned a moment ago about this is this is a bump going through the system was really a question about we did LTE's did you see some increase in the future we're having them on board now and trends and converting those to FTEs was maybe a plan to consider as well you don't have to answer that right now but that was the basis of my question member Ramos yes yeah I mean option 2 is the best I still go back a little bit trying to remember to mentioned that putting 142 it was was I thought getting that done and then done the additional 125 whenever so it just seems like the price tag has grown pretty pretty big from what I thought it was from the discussion but if that's what it takes to get it done and that's what it takes to get it done council deputy president Vitesse so the I guess just an overall comment I just to echo some of what my fellow council members have talked about just the ability to work through this faster then then we have slated would be great and the reason that I asked about the difference between number 2 and number 3 could you go back to that with was simply because I that there there might be certain consultants or LTE staff that you know if they have a great background in this and they've done this before for another city and they would be the best person to come in but they're very interested in LTE and they're not interested in being a consultant that was my reason for asking that question so I think trying to focus on is like number 2 makes the best sense but trying to focus on who the best person for that position would be that would get us through in a more expedient fashion if if that were an option would be great thank you so the way I view it is we put we ask the administration to come up with a quick number they came up with a quick number or 140 the number to get it done you said all along it wasn't agreed done in 12 months he said I think it may be even said 18 months so I take this as you know 140 was the first estimate to 65 355 might have been a more precise estimate given more time which is the sum of those not counting the 67 and I recognize there's these questions swirling around about what's the baseline but I view it as just a revision to the estimate that was made last month so I am okay with option 2 but of course I would love to see some of the questions that were brought up this evening from various council members addressed as the bill comes back to us soon administrator moon how how is that likely to get routed it's gonna come back to full council and then off to committee either way so we could either bring it back for action in early January or your heart hope to get everything locked in and be able to go shopping for consultants as quickly as possible so we can either bring it back for action at that first meeting or if it's the council's pleasure we could send it to committee we were sort of anticipating this was the committee conversation we'll bring back the recommendation based on this conversation and it was our hope that you could take action quickly so and and there's there's a couple things that are in play one is the 207's that the real number is a real number right so we can go out we can send out an rfp right now and get a consultant on board by early January that conversation could help inform what comes back ultimately because right now that's a variable and I think having less variables it would be good so it may behoove us to wait and bring something back after we understand who we have under contract and and see what that looks like any other any thoughts to what was just said seems reasonable seems like the full bill that would come back would be better circumscribed I'm not seeing any violent disagreement to that so sounds like a plan all right thank you very much I want to thank you for color coding color matching your presentation to your shirt and your tie it's that sort of professionalism that really sets you above and beyond Keith thank you very much all right so with that we will move on and we want to welcome back dr. Fujimoto who is heading up our conversation this evening around ID zero three zero three five six course our citywide strategic plan Brian Scott our consultant good evening Council members David Fujimoto again and we're here to have another check-in with full council and work session I will be joined by Brian Scott and Gabriel silver Blatt from BDS planning consulting and we've made good progress as you all know with the strategic plan and staff have been at work along with the consultants since our last check-in talking about objectives and we're here to talk a little bit more about some of the next steps but also importantly to talk about the implementation of this so we're developing a plan and the implementation side of the equation is equally if not more important than the plan itself how we go about using that so we're gonna lay out some things to have a conversation with Council tonight and also talk about tee up some conversation about the goal level performance measures so we can get some feedback on what counsels interest in comfort level is on what those are starting to look like our plan then is to come back forward at the next stop in the first part of next year to talk more specifically about the kind of the guts of the plan if you will as it starts to come together and be assembled so that's kind of the plan for tonight and we're going to turn it over to Brian to carry us through and we'll take any questions along the way yeah festive it's five points good evening so our purpose is that Brian's got BDS planning is it nice to be with you here again tonight the three things that we want to do tonight we want to discuss the implementation process and cycle for the strategic plan how we will update it and know whether we're on track we want to review and direct some goal level performance measures for the strategic plan which is really where I think councils primary guidance on what we're trying to accomplish should come in and then we want to give you a prick a quick preview of the staffs work on actions that'll be going forward so give you just a quick process update to refresh everybody's thinking spend a few minutes on the implementation cycle the framework for it the three categories of city work plan items and selection criteria for how will how will we think we'll help you set put things on the annual work plans and then kind of lay out the schedule going forward and then Gabriel is going to go through with you the goal level performance measures and if we have time at the end we'll try and give you a quick preview of the action items that are in the plan so just a reminder kind of taking us clear back to when you hired us at the beginning of this process what did the city say you were trying to accomplish with the strategic planning process with it might be useful to think you wanted vision and strategy alignment to make sure that you had a clear vision for the city and that what was happening was in alignment with that you had a disciplined approach to council and staff decision-making and coordination among departments you wanted to engage diverse community voices through a community driven priorities and we've done a lot of that and you wanted an actionable plan with realistic priorities ability to make assignments how the plan will sync with the budget and capital improvement decisions metrics and monitoring and as a communication tool we're kind of getting into the last steps of that we've kind of touched most of those things so far quick reminder three phases to this process the first phase is who we are the second one where do we want to go and third how will how we'll get there we're just clear over on the right side now getting to this implementation phase the PHA the first two phases were counsels direction on the why and the what about what the strategic plan is we've spent a lot of time sort of figuring out who do we want to be what do we want to do what are those big council led directions and now we're thoroughly working on the phase three where we have intensive staff work on the how are we going to do what the council has told us to do quick reminder the structure of the plan it begins with a vision mission and guiding principles the kind of why we're doing this the strategic priorities you identify two set of strategic priorities each one with a goal and then we spent a good amount of time in recent weeks and months on objectives and staff is currently working on actions and targets that how we gonna do what the council told us to you have approved the vision mission guiding principles strategic priorities goals and objectives and what's happening right now is we're working on the actions and the targets we're gonna spend some time on the targets or on the measures at the goal level tonight so Ryan can you go back just for a second you bet I want I want you to just I want you to reiterate that because I think this might be a little confusing right the staff is in process on actions and targets right correct right what we're gonna talk about tonight is the performance measures at the goal level okay so I just want to make sure we understand that's the hope around this evening is to understand some of these key metrics at the goal level and also sort of looking for I would say are we missing anything at a high level are there any holes in this that aside from the particular tweaking of one metric or another are we just fundamentally missing a metric at the goal level that we think is important as a city we think a really successful strategic plan has half a dozen or so high level performance measures that you can all kind of remember what it is you're trying to accomplish and then you can regularly get updates on how you're doing on those measures and sure every project has its own measure of how it's doing but you can't keep track of 47 of those at the level of the council what you want to do is be looking at those high levels so we want to talk about what are those high level goal level measures tonight so quick just whirlwind reminder on the vision mission and guiding principles we agreed and you have approved vision that it's a quarter Ives as a welcoming community creating a sustainable legacy for future generations that honors its rich history and passion for the natural environment you also approved a an updated mission statement is to foster a safe vibrant livable and inclusive community through effective ship and quality public services you agreed on a set of guiding principles related to people environment community prosperity service excellence and equity with a descriptive statement about each of those and then we've been identified entity check priorities goals and objectives the strategic priority areas because we're doing this in 2018 and things are happening that need strategic attention those include mobility growth and development environmental stewardship social and economic vitality core infrastructure and city leadership and services identified a goal under each of those categories I'm not going to read them all to you I've done that a lot of times so far in this process but there's a goal there for mobility growth and development environmental stewardship social and economic vitality core infrastructure and city leadership and services and then each goal has a set of objectives that we the last time I was here we went through one by one and agreed on the wording of each of those objectives so we now have a complete set basically the core of the strategic plan is done and since the last time that we were here at a council work session we the staff have been doing intensive work on the actions they did a kickoff shortly after you approved the objectives in October they've had several individual workgroup meetings to flesh those out they've been doing a full group peer review of what the workgroups did six work group meetings 22 objectives and about 88 actions they have developed through that work a ton of staff work to respond to the direction you gave them at the why and how level they've been working through the or the Hawaiin what level and they've been working on the how actions quite a bit and then for each of these just to give you a sense of how much work they've been doing these we're calling these activity worksheets for each one there's an objective and then there's a set of performance measures related to that and then City actions timing lead individuals resort resources needed just a ton of work there's the on this list down here that there's eighty-eight of those and I think there are twenty-four objectives so there's one of the twenty four of these sheets and so we'll come back circle back around to those as we have time just to give you a preview of what all of those actions are we don't we don't think we think this is the hard work that you pay the staff to do and you don't want to spend as a council a lot of time at this level of detail but we've got a preview set up of what all the actions are the implementation framework and the place where you get to keep driving as we go forward on reviewing how are we doing on performance and how are you going to update that over time we've previewed this before but let's get into it a little bit of detail the implementation framework is pretty straightforward strategic planning is long-term strategic thinking getting your head up out of the day to day and thinking what's happening how do we need to disproportionately invest somewhere because we need to change the course make a strategic move implementation is the coupling of that strategic thinking that you've got to keep doing with new realities because stuff happens that we didn't know was going to happen things work out better or worse than we thought something new comes up so implementation is kind of balancing remember what the strategic direction was and then deal with new reality and adjust accordingly and as you do that council is setting direction while staff is managing the implementation process so you're both kind of doing plan your appropriate roles and then we think and with all the local governments we're working with and and large nonprofits we think setting up a deliberate and intentional annual schedule for policy making and budgeting will keep you balancing the strategic thinking and the new realities so that annual cycle or schedule generates an annual work plan which is the annual prioritization of work from the strategic plan mejia quirk work plan and critical services work plan so we're trying to sort of you get into this what is it that we're doing that strategic and what is what we have to do because we're a city government and you got to do that whether it's a strategic move now or not so we've tried to create kind of a cycle model and then and then sort of categories for that this annual cycle if you figure you spend most of your time in the kind of lower and left quadrant where you're doing the work you're working on the process but then as it comes around time to think about it you want to do some performance evaluation which means your reporting to your community and gathering input from the community about how you're doing and checking in on your measures and then as a council you're making a strategic plan adjustment in in in response to those performance measures and then you have your annual retreat and adopt a new work plan for what's happening is that adjustment to the strategic plan and the new year's work plan and then you do it again and you come around and then you you sync up the budgeting and capital improvement planning kind of as you're moving into that performance evaluation one way to demonstrate this that David helped us figure out is sort of you've got the doing part of it and then the checking in adjusting accordingly and then adapting the plan kind of and it's that annual cycle and then you do that for four or five years and it's time to kind of rethink the whole thing because the world has changed a lot but basically for a while that keeps you in touch with your strategic plan while you're implementing things so the parts of the city's annual work plan this is where you get into sort of how when is that strategic when is it not strategic and we've spent a lot of time working with the staff leadership on on what do we call these things what are the things so we think there's the strategic work plan which is that annual cycle we adjusted every year and there's the critical services work plan which is the stuff the city's got to do regardless and then there are those timely opportunities because something comes up you didn't see coming and you have to deal with it it's either because there's a crisis or because there's some opportunity so the annual work plan would be identified through that annual strategic planning process it's selected by the council during the annual council staff prioritization and your it's what's going to be important and then over the next five years you're thinking out long-term the critical services work plan is critical city functions police fire maintaining the roads that are those critical things that are essential to health safety and welfare of community members and as well as mandates and those are things that are always important because you're a city government and then those timely opportunities of those things you didn't think of and they don't fit neatly into those other buckets it's a few modest opportunities with agreement from the council and the senior leadership team that we got it we got to jump on this they could be nice nice to haves or easy wins and you only consider them after screening is this a strategic issue is that a critic is an ongoing critical services issue if it's one of those than it belongs up there or if it doesn't quite fit then you have to deal with it because it's a timely opportunity but it shouldn't detract from keeping to do those longer-term things and the timing is it's like it's important right now really crystal clear example of this for me it's kind of up close and personal is we did a strategic plan for the city of Salem there may be 18 months ahead of you and adopting the strategic plan we did the annual work plan we're moving along they're doing these things you know and at least if you listen to the consultant it was all going great and then suddenly there was this algae bloom and in reservoir and you couldn't drink the water and suddenly the city of Salem had a whole new strategic opportunity or a timely opportunity that they had to deal with and they had to learn a lot of stuff about a city function that we didn't talk about it all in the strategic plan because they didn't know it was coming so that stuff happens and we think it'll help you as you go into this if by the time we're finished with this process we're not going to try and do it tonight but open to some feedback is is how do you what are the criteria for selecting the things that go on the annual work plan and we often talk about there are several criteria and you know just it's to help you figure out how to rank them you might rank them which ones are most important to the vision and mission which ones are we most likely to succeed at because there are some great ideas that we don't have much chance of influencing what is our potential for direct influence and how much is the time in cost and how does that relate to the budget seems like available resources might be one critical services might be one there might be others so we think it will help if we can set some criteria when for the first time you come around to that annual work plan which is quite quite some months ahead before we'll be doing that but we want to identify some criteria so this typical annual schedule might look something like this in January your beginning implementation of the strategic plan initiatives and then January February you're starting your doing the community satisfaction data in March you're doing an annual report to the community on how it's going and getting their feedback April you're doing a strategic plan update in response to that and in May you've got your annual retreat and the budget development starts in September preliminary budget and strategic work plan and then November you're adopting the budget and adopting the the annual work plan for the next year so this implies that you're updating the strategic plan the long-term strategic thinking in April and then just before the the calendar year starts you're adopting the in next year's work plan okay he wasn't talking into the microphone so I'm sorry he wasn't talking into the microphone Oh Brian could you repeat that on mic so anybody watch thank you what I have several questions and I was prompted to say one of the questions is about the criteria it'll be easier to for you to respond to that question of the criteria up on the screen so it backed up a slide and so we were suggesting these might be some criteria you would use for adopting an annual work plan it'll be months before you have to actually do this but we thought it was a good time to give them a preview so it'd be a great time for feedback on that so initial feedback if this were to form I guess it would be the backbone to a potential scoring system that we give me the way you would take this is you would implement it as some sort of scoring probably the way I'm thinking good question probably the way kind of thinking aloud here I know how I would do it with a board of directors which is probably not the same as the right way to do it with the City Council probably you would have a staff report that said if we had to rank these dozen things in terms of importance to the vision and mission it would look like this if you had to rank these things in terms of the likelihood of success it would look like this other way wouldn't be just the same direct influence would be another way time and money and maybe some of these others you see all those rankings and then if you added those together you'd come out with this is how they drank and then as Council you'd say yeah we buy that or disagree make these adjustments initial thoughts spammer couldn't what does potential for direct influence mean good question so what is what is potential for direct influence mean my sense of that is there are things that the city of Issaquah can control and there are things that you're going to have a great deal of influence on with partner jurisdictions and there are things that you may think are pretty important that your ability to influence the outcome may be pretty limited like something being done by a regional state or national government that you might care passionately about but you're because you're the City Council you can't tell them what to do and so so something that you can actually control might be something that's a reason to prioritize that one whereas there's another reason it might another one might be a higher priority yeah I guess with that explanation I'm not sure what the difference is between that one and likelihood of success because you could use likelihood of success for the same good question I've usually the likelihood of success is how hard is it durability for direct influence is how much is it within our control which which are they are interrelated I suppose but they're not the same thing do you have another question No council deputy president so I feel like this just to talk a little bit more to the question that has some remember goodman just asked in terms of direct influence and likelihood of success I can understand why that comes forward in terms of criteria but when I think about it in the the bigger picture of council there definitely you know that there are things that are coming to mind where we we definitely want to have the influence we you know in terms of lobbying that we might be doing or things that we're trying to get out in front of where it's still very very important to do it may not result in it may not be direct influence but it would still be influence and I would I would see that if you were in a situation where you had so many things to think about and then you were scoring those that some of those fall to the bottom where they still need to be done and they're still very important and that success may not end up being this year but it could be five years from now so that that concerns me a little bit that's good feedback my take on it is this this is these tools as sort of criteria are helpful in helping you make a decision they don't you wouldn't want to give up your decision-making you're using your brains to some sort of score sheet but you it helps you think about it because you might have you you've got some of those things that might be passionately important to your citizens and to you as council members and to the city's mission you know but how much are you going to be able to do about global warming or the location of a light rail station or you know things like that and you and if you only have so many units of energy or so many units of ability to influence something whereas you could decide where the road goes and so those those you know you sort of have to choose where are you going to put your time and energy and money follow-on question I do I have a following question and and just to comment actually you just brought up at an exact example that would be in my head and that's thinking about light rail and this station so that would be an example of something that I would feel that we should be working on and we and we should be doing and and whether we have direct influence this year again could be up for debate I think the concern that I have is what while I while I understand putting the criteria together and I think that that's important is that sometimes then this comes forward from staff or the administration and there's just so much to it that some of the some of the items are already prioritized and just getting down to the level where you're you're really being able to prioritize the way if we have issues that the community is really concerned about if there are issues that a lot of the councilmembers are very concerned about I guess I just I don't want that to be lost in this evaluation and sometimes there's just so much on the plate that if it already comes forward that way then there are certain priorities that could be pushed down so just want to make sure that the council is the retaining their ability to really be able to bring forward those issues that that they feel or that they've heard from the community are really important and obviously they can and push that forward but that it's just giving me a little bit of pause thank you do you want to come another letter I think it's a great point and I'm I got I've got both have thought about what are the what are the criteria and what is the process in respondent I mean it seems like you just made an argument for why the scoring should be very transparent and I guess I was thinking that's part of the reason you do this as you say they rank this way on this criteria and this other way on this other criteria and then if you add that together it comes out this way and it's like showing your work on how you got there rather than just getting a thing that says here's the list in the priority order do you like it or not it actually shows you that whole backup for it you could say you know what I disagree with this one over here and if you change that because it puts out there a little more quantifiable I also think you made an argument for why you might put critical services and available resources right there on the with these other things that are here so that you know you could you could spend a lot of time trying to influence the location of a light rail station but if you were doing that at the expense of some critical services that might or may not be the best I mean that's a council level decision of where you're putting where you're spending your resources that's not every winter time I have another criteria to consider I think council will call it risks to consider in a board room you might say what's our opportunity cost I think we were considering one earlier this evening around weather getting the the strategic plan as relates to green necklace into our title 18 you guys were here earlier and what that conversation the reason I think that that's up why we're trying to bring it forward as a council because there's an opportunity cost there will be redevelopment in certain parts of Issaquah and without the code in place to ensure that our vision and for the green necklace actually gets built something could come in and and because we don't have the right regulation in place we would miss an opportunity that may be an opera there's opportunity cost to the city if the green necklace isn't into title 18 sooner rather than later so that's that's a that's a great point in how if you were scoring if we were doing that for the annual update right now that on on some factors that would show up gently important because otherwise be a lost opportunity good point and the one thing I want to say one other thing too is to mariah's point intuition is great at some point some decisions do need to be more data-driven and more analytical and how you come to it rather than just my intuition so evaluate this I kind of need to look one slide forward and ask you a question about it so let's say we've got our strategic plan and then I'm stopped on the street by a bunch of heartwarming teenagers and they say please mister city council member we need a skatepark now this I mean she's an example because we have a wonderful new skatepark so it wouldn't be a skate park probably called you three serve three times in that sentence - sure and so where would I so it's not on their strategic plan at all right but they've touched my heart so where would I insert that in this process where it would where we would then put the these criteria that we're discussing right now match it up with all the stuff that's on the strategic plan and all the stuff that's part of the blocking tackling of like like what's the lifecycle of that idea of mine in this notional system so good good question so assuming that it's because they think it's important that this happen in general then that is feedback that's part of the collect community satisfaction data and report to the community and community check in and they may or may not stop you on the sidewalk in the January to March cycle but probably what you say in response to them is that's a great idea we would we should talk about that relative to the other city's priorities and the place for that input is here and hopefully you can figure out a way to collect to their comments so they don't have to remember to show up at a meeting two months in the future but you would be directing them toward this annual cycle and then during this priority ranking exercise that we're talking about that idea would need to compete with other things that seem like they might fit and they would be ranked on how close is it to the division and the mission that's of time they're tossing it would have to it would have to compete on that cycle now there's the slightly modified issue of what if one of those fellows uncle's just passed away and there's the abandoned property that might be sold to go off to some other use and if we don't deal with this in the next 60 days we're gonna miss the upper the perfect skate park opportunity which would push it into that timely opportunity thing and then it would be a senior senior staff and council level decision to say is this one of the few things every year that we're gonna push out of this cycle because we got to deal with it because it's a timely opportunity that makes sense sure so we're and this would be that prioritization is that under the may council leadership team retreat where's that prioritization occur is that an event where we get locked in a room and we don't need to leave until we've prioritized everything yeah it is the council the council retreat and then the rest of the budget cycle is when it would have to you know it basically they they don't get the skatepark until they have passed muster and some of this priority ranking and then it's during the retreat where we start discussing the annual work plan and that it has to survive the the development of that work plan and the budget cycle so that at the end of the time you adopt the budget and the work plan in November it's on the list for the next year at it so there's a bunch of work these things that come up in this third category that we're sort of optimistically saying are small easy quick wins there's a bunch of homework that has to occur ahead of that right somebody I don't walk in honor of the days when I would walk into that meeting and say I want a skatepark and it cost $750,000 right so the this this came again now I can go back to the previous slide if you go back to the previous slide so all that stuff there's sort of a there's an on-ramp for that third category of things that to show up at that meeting in May and compete and to have any chance of competing with the a and B stuff that we know are long-standing priorities and commitments all this stuff there's much homework that occurs ahead of time right and and with each individual idea there's some sort of order of magnitude before whether it gets you there if they want to ride on the fire truck you might be able to pull that off without having to go through this whole budgeting cycle but okay councilmember Goodman comment to your question so I don't view this strategic plan so we we have methods by which we can bring agenda bills in many different ways and one of those ways is for council members to two or three decide that they think something is really important at that time whether you and I would call it probably a timely opportunity and I can envision that there might be times when something is important enough for lack of a better word or opportunistic enough that it wouldn't wait and for that annual we you know reprioritizing that's all I really wanted to say we don't give up that right sure so there's a whole separate path really this this is a path that hopefully you could trade it or competed against other things but there would be another way for somebody to write and then there of course whoever those council members are that wanted something additional at that time or something separated and thought it was important enough then it would probably be put through more of a of this test earlier just to make sure that it is consistent in some way with our strategic plan yes see the administrator moon thank you yes that's accurate part of this framework is not only about the work that will happen during the strategic plan update and the work plan retreat which is also a precursor to budget development but as you have suggested if those timely opportunities come outside of that schedule there's still a mechanism through council rules to bring an agenda built forward however we would want to apply this framework and say how does this new thing affect our ability to get the bucket a and B done think thank you for that comment there concentrate so the criteria that we're we're noodling on right now that really applies to a BNC and so it's not just you know the timely opportunities that we would show through the apply the filter to but we would do it when when evaluating things that we think are part of the strategic work plan too because I would contend that the skatepark could easily be seen as a strategic initiative under the environment and amenities and so if somebody were to come to me and said we need a street a skatepark I think you can make a pretty compelling argument to say this is this is very consistent with our strategic direction and and you know chapter and verse and point to that so I think it's really important that we do that and that as recognizing your dynamic world that we live in things are going to come up all the time and so having a nice annual cycle or biannual cycle for for doing this is really nice but we also have to have the the HOV Lane to get on board the freeway to ABS absolutely and the seven of us can't bind future councils right if four council members get elected to on a platform of providing yet another skate park perhaps to skate parks is insufficient they get more skate parks so I appreciate what you said I'm sorry what was that council trick of it I just would like to clarify for people who have just tuned in we are not contemplating building another skate park yes we're not contemplating any time then yes it was merely used as an example of something it was used as an example of something we're specifically not contemplating doing so as to specifically avoid in any way charging the conversation but thank you right oh I'm sorry cuz I've ever hunt so I'm I'm struggling with the the likelihood of success and the potential for a direct influence and partly because I think if we have the ability or the potential to directly influence them that indicates to me that if we can directly influence we have a high likelihood of success they seem directly linked and also I wonder - in terms of the transparency of scoring if we have something that's really important to the vision and mission that's on our work plan but then we identify it as having somehow having a low likelihood of success wouldn't we then as part of our work play and do those things to make us in a better position so that we would have a higher likelihood of success and wouldn't that be a component of the work plan so I'm I'm struggling a little bit with how how that would work and then the cost in time and money one I think is clear to me although I like the idea of including in that opportunity cost as well and then resources which is the other the other component of that this is good feedback I'm I'm I'm hearing from this conversation that we need more clean either the likelihood of success and potential word elect direct influence need to be combined or we need more clarity on how they apply to municipal issues and it's good that's good people we wanted feedback that's good feedback would recognize those aren't working just as stated right now I had a question about critical services because it was discussed earlier that there are some core functions critical services that the city is going to provide regardless of of what we strategically apply additional resources to and so I wondered why that was called out us I'm in this slide as critical resources as a potential draft criteria well I'd say it would be a potential criteria for the annual work plan in that if you're putting significant cost items the things that your ranking and and you know there might be a new recreational facility that's highly desired in the community that you all think is a great idea but if the if the trade-off for achieving it would be a significant cutback in public safety services you might do it you might not do it you might say we have to defer that and that would be a using a critical service criteria as a competing criteria you know it's just sensing that because you have a lot of your budget goes into infrastructure and public safety recognizing that those things are important I think that's why we thought maybe that should be on this list well I do think I obviously I think that that is super important but I also think that as long as we're clear elsewhere in the plan that the core services will not be affected by or undermined by anything that we decided to go forward with in this work plan then I think it's covered there okay fair point although it I mean you get into semantics as to what core services are right if the city has for instance critical I guess yeah if the if DSD has a schedule for updating of code right and we want to change that we're changing course their core services right but not really right so but I like at your point I think we're I think we're saying that if you go back to your a B and C all right we have a hierarchy you're saying that B is more important than a is more important than see that there is some more highly prioritized on y'all I think I was I think I was saying that if if it isn't clear that critical services would be weighed more highly than non-critical services then we should call that out but I would think that that's clear from our other documentation of the plan sweet administrative hood I think the other thing that we were considering by having that as one of the criteria was to have a box basically to check to say that we have indeed identified this as a critical service that in of itself is a little bit of an exercise and we can we could debate what is critical I think we were thinking about that moment in time when we collate all of the new ideas and are trying to decide what to include in the budget and how the strategic plan should be a dot updated what should live in the next year's work plan we want to take each of those new items and ask ourselves should it be incorporated into the strategic work plan is or is there a natural place to append this is this something that council wants to do you know think about year three or four on the strategic work plan maybe we have made enough progress on a particular objective or goal but a new opportunity has come along and we say that's really important and directly connected let's let's get that included into the next year strategic work plan but there also might be things that pop up that are related to critical services and and may have not occurred past year but are new and we need to figure out how to assign additional resources to that so think about our pea sauce issue I would say water quality is a critical service and function of the city protecting that and so with pea voss coming up we may have had a conversation and treated it either as something in the sea bucket which I think staff is saying it's perhaps than a or B in the moment but that P posish you could have been incorporated into critical services work plan and so we were thinking about that critical services being more of a checkbox does it does it live on this side of the plan or isn't in the a bucket or the C bucket chance remember I that makes sense in that I think was my thought too is that basically that's categorizing it but it's not a criteria that's remember Ray one of the values that I think you scribed from having a plan like this all's into the critical services plan in that it not only helps you to understand what you have to do but it also will help you to illuminate things that you're doing that don't make sense and so the only way that we will be successful with a strategic work plan is by freeing up resources that are currently doing critical service work and we will do that by saying that's something that we can do the way we're doing so I think that's one of the real values in this exercise from my perspective is to help us focus on what's important and as much but put things on our to-do list is to put things on our stop doing list thank you all right other questions on this element or we move on so great we've talked about these categories of Krait of elements of a city work plan we've talked about criteria and we've talked about the annual schedule and the other thing we wanted to talk about and we've kind of touched on the questions we were gonna do so the other thing we wanted to talk about was the kind of goal level performance measures so the council level kind of how do you want to know if you're succeeding on this plan I'm sorry I won't you go back one slide just we spent a lot of time yeah sorry one more slide there we go okay so we've spent a lot of time on the slide before this slide we talked a little bit about this slide in a in relation to the previous slide and also in my example right but I just want to make sure I mean this is the blueprint of how we would do things strategically as a council right so we have talked about you know what's our relationship between retreats and goals and whatnot this is this is saying what that is so I just want to make sure that everybody is and I realize this is the last time we're gonna see this information but it's perhaps the first time we've seen it quite this way and I believe Vicki had her hand up first member hunt I wondered about the timing of annual reports of community and then community check-in just because the the community satisfaction data is is in January February that's first that's just with the public and then we have the council and the public and it seems to me that it would make sense to have that sort of check-in process and then the report out and then maybe you could do more check-in but you I think I would think that the council would want to have some time to check in before doing a report out that's my thought and I think it was councilmember Goodman and then comes member winters time just a comment for the consultant and staff to think about the timing that seems it seems crowded when you get into April and May because budget is starting I would think that we would want to endeavour to roll this process back a little bit and maybe even work at the end of the prior year start planning for updating the plan the following year I don't know how all this works I can just see this April May getting just really last-minute and crowded City Administrator moon you have thoughts on that we can certainly try to think about that I there are a few moments in time that are a little bit more solid here and others that I think we can be flexible on I will also say this is well it's so typical I think there may be times that we need to be a little flexible for example we're thinking about starting this process in 2019 to some degree even before you've adopted the plan and I'm not sure if we're gonna be able to collect our community satisfaction data in January February and as councilmember hunt spoke about we we included in that although it doesn't show it here that check back to community or reporting out on that piece of data so getting getting started with that report to community and community check in any time in the fall tour the end of the year as councilmember Goodman talked about we can contemplate as you know fall tends to be pretty busy so I don't think I have any any ways of changing it quite yet but we'll continue to think about that yeah I was I was I was not thinking about the council being crowded in April of May I was thinking about it getting pretty close to budget time and then we've got it that's all right so you guys will think about whether how that timing works in relation to the budget development yeah certainly well as as you all know we do get started with building the budget in the spring and so we want to have all of the information we possibly can about community preferences perceptions as well as councils ahead of that so that we can incorporate that work into the budget proposals although it really seems like where the rubber meets the road isn't that downselect that potentially occurs in May all right so I I question how much I mean certainly I mean the regular stuff can get done ahead of that but there's a bunch that I would think wouldn't be able to get done until after that retreat occurs that's that's correct I mean we can we can work on a lot of the budget but those last inputs that we may not get until after April and May on this calendar would be incorporated in June we would aim to give the that draft budget from the department's to the executive office and say July do our in-house work July in August and get the budget into your hands in September so I think it's still doable I I have well Paul go first quickly it was last 2000 2015 it's the last time we did council goal-setting so for those of us that around some of you actually haven't been through that at all I look obviously May and the pre-work before that especially what happens in April is the next generation of what traditionally we had done as coal setting so I appreciate you putting this framework up here and me now this this alone is just this list kind of illustrates the fundamental shift that we're making from being at a year-to-year reactionary to actually being very strategic within a framework with with good decision-making processes thank you thank you for that context so I I had a question for City Administrator moon which is do we need to think about what this but once we move to biennial budgets so we need to think about what this looks like in a in a budget year and an on budget here yes we will I would think that we will still be revisiting the strategic plan on an animal update given its five-year structure as to budget ripples we would probably just focus the conversation then in our second year or the mid-year budget adjustment on those new and different tweaks that need to be made and won't be doing all the work of prioritizing other work plan elements like the critical work plan okay when when this comes back for final adoption I think this question about how various things looking to buy any 'el system probably we want to have something documented around that right other questions right now all right thanks for I just want to make sure that there's a side was really important yep so we want to move into the how are we going to know if we are succeeding on the strategic plan and again the council level performance measures are related to the goals the critical strategic priority areas of the strategic plan and Gabriel is going to walk you through those thank you Oh all right so I'm gonna preview some material that's come from staff work in the very recent past so I will defer to David and Emily when as needed to fill in some of the some of the details here but basically there we go we've got the project leadership team which is the staff leads and council members the council leadership sort of weighing in on sort of direction and their feedback was we really need the full council to direct their attention to the goal level performance measures so in between that meeting that we had and today staff has put together some work with some sort of framework from from BDS on the goal level performance measures so I'm gonna preview those today and we're looking for is your review and direction these are early drafts so certainly not looking for any kind of approval but I guess what we're looking for is critical missing pieces things that you feel really ought to be considered and so I'm going to show them kind of one we're gonna go one by one through the strategic priority areas under mobility and I've just put the strategic priority and I've also put the goal statement so we can be reminded of that and three measures came forward here those were travel time with in Issaquah facility connectivity and community satisfaction and what we mean by those in each case it's a it is a mix for all of these performance measures it is a mix of hard and soft data so both survey responses or survey questions of the community and actual data sort of specific things that we can measure the data source we try to call out where we where the staff feels that will be coming from so I guess I'll just I'm gonna pause and we can talk about them sort of one one at a time as a group here don't fall I'm gonna go with comes member winter Stein no all right thank you I'm just gonna randomly pick a couple points with in Issaquah and decide the travel time or obviously or is there gonna be some process that we're gonna identify key you know starting and ending points haven't gotten that far okay but but I would imagine there's there's a finite number a small number let's say half a dozen and we would pick trips that we think hit different geographies and our kind of common trips for people in town and then measure them at different different times so peak hour a weekend you know Saturday is tough to get around town as we know okay so this measure would be travel times on well-established well identified routes correctly would act we would correct actual times correct okay what's a facility in this definition on number two yeah sorry identified facility gaps I think that was meant to be types of on roadway yet like sidewalks bike lanes would they move okay the mobility infrastructures correct opponents okay okay that this relate and then percentage of housing units okay I see that I see other okay one of them is like I said sidewalks for example incomplete and then just proximity of transit service so not transit stations you're just talking about anything along transit routes regardless of their capacities yes access getting to that question yeah yeah just say that the like it I get P SRC the one of the considerations specifically is potentially doing creating a planning geography in vicinity in proximity to what we're calling transit stations and there's a lot of different types because there's train there's light rail there's BRT bus rapid transit there's this regular transit and and and there's going to be a really rigid definition of what these stations are so if we do some type of growth planning or create allocations there's gonna be really clear definitions within there so that was my feedback on on that one is to be very put the rigor into defining when you say transit service what do you mean sounds a member hunt I agree I wasn't sure what facilities meant I think that one of my issues overall with this slide is that it seems like it's missing the non motorized and pedestrian mobility emphasis which I know especially as we're an urbanizing and growing city we do want to have that pedestrian and more walkability you mentioned sidewalks but that doesn't appear here so I think it if we can make it more clear that we are talking about non motorized as well and I noticed also the travel time is specific to roadways so that's very specific to cars and then the other thing I had an issue or a question around is the percentage of housing units within 1/4 1/4 mile of transit service to me that sounds like the goal is to orient more housing around transit service but the other way the other way would be right to switch it which would be that we want to have more transit options for people that will get to where their existing housing is so I think I think if both of those are within that statement then teasing that apart and being clear that that we want to do both is warranted because I think it can be read I was going to say it seems like that statement would sort of incorporate both of those concepts of like prioritizing housing with that is already within that would be within a quarter mile of an existing station and then also sort of locating transit facilities that are close to density right I would think that both would be goals but I also think you could achieve the same sort of percentage increase because we're going to be having new housing coming to the city you couldn't think you could achieve a percentage increase by just locating how is it but I think we want to also assess the housing what you're saying with this is that you want people who live close to where there's transit service and you could achieve that either by bringing transit to where they already live or providing housing close to transit both of those would achieve the goal you're just measuring how well does it work and I I would think that we would want to do both because right now we have some areas that are not well served by transit agree completely and all this is doing is saying that in a perfect world everybody live within a quarter mile of transit it seems to be back quick so I think that the idea is with the first one it's that one's mostly about you might think about that as being around convenience and reliability the second one is more about access and connectivity and so as I think as Brian said there's a couple of ways to achieve that piece it's not just about let's build more housing close to existing services it's how can we increase access to so those services either by route changes or thinking about other solutions and how we get people connected to those systems that's right yep other questions on these slides or you move on councilmember hunt um it's the the overall ease of getting to the places you visit and it's a quite I think is is more inclusive than usually have to visit okay I'm so member German in terms of in terms of measures and thank you David for your comment a moment I really I think your number two is is actually two measures I think the completeness of the network is something that we can we plan and measure and do and that can be as separate from how well we are integrating transit public transit with in proximity to where people live I think those are separate measures you're related but separate I like to see them separate all right okay and I'll just say I think one of those rods should be from my house to noodle boat it's really commonly traveled route that is if we improve that we're gonna improve transit a lot in Rome City Sophie duly noted for the record so yep sorry I move in I send to the growth and development piece the goal statement was growth at his pro actively managed planned and communicated in a responsible way that retains our strong sense of community and livability three measures draft measures have emerged all of these are proposed to be evaluated by National Citizen survey survey data so satisfaction with Community Planning community knowledge of awareness of future plans and community livability it's my right so I don't have an answer so I'm just gonna ask them you think about this I would really like to see something in growth and development that is a little more objective and a little less subjective we have some of those and the other ones which I really appreciate it would like to see that if we can identify something here that'd be great I had the exact same reaction like some of this is great but some of it should also be all the tables what's it ativ no qualitative CD administrative mode so we have the same reaction but we're struggling so if not tonight then please do and any thoughts you have after the meaning because we are struggling a little bit to come up with something that is more quantitative and the less subjective remember Goodman well it just strikes me that we might run into this as more as we continue to work on the plan and finalize it and that is when you start coming up with your measures in your action plan your action steps you might look back at your bowl that's a goal statement up there and realize that it might need to be I need to be revised a little bit so you say may point us the this effort on finding metrics may point us towards possible revision to the goal or yeah and maybe thinking about rather than cut in the next step coming up with how you measure success or how you measure what is it what's the vision of what that might look like what are we what is proactively managed planned and communicated in a responsible way mean you were gonna bring your magic wand what would that look like I don't have the answer tonight those are just and I don't want to that's just what strikes me about maybe what the problem is with one two and three is thank you that's member Ramos yeah I think it's I look at that that when you get down to what your trainers attain is a sense of community right it again it puts you in this the subjective side very quickly and and so it's either focusing on that there's the first couple words of proactive where you have some some stuff there it's hard because it all comes down to a sense that's gonna be hard to quantify it so we may need to tweak that a little bit to get to to that sense in a more quantifiable way so I have an idea and I have no idea what would happen if we did it but it'd be interesting to look at you know we had that presentation from Keith a couple years ago that that led us to impose a moratorium because we felt we weren't getting growth that was proactively managed planned and I don't know about the communicated part would it be interesting to look back at the elements that were in that and mind those and see if any of those might be ripe for inclusion in this councilmember Goodman my recollection of that is that it we called it the Chiclets report and it was directly tied to the simple squat plan so it wouldn't I don't know that would it would transfer to this so I don't I don't know that it's a bad idea to look at it but it's not the same thing that's all I said I would just be curious to see if any of those metrics would scale to full City I'm sorry ray I think it's about looking at outcomes so what's kind of missing is we have the goals and objectives there's another element in there which is what are the outcomes that we're really trying to accomplish and if we can tease out and articulate what our outcomes are that make us know that we have a sense of a community and livability that will help us to really hone in on what it is we want to know I think some discussion about the desired outcomes that's more tangible will help us immensely and it's a frame around this and I think we'll see this in some of the others too Thanks there are comments questions that's been winters time I don't mean to be piling on but this is a good conversation about this particular one and now I'm struggling I do agree with what Chris said that that there there there are types of outcomes and that we're talking about measures here right so there's there's some pretty banal measures we can make about housing units and plants and all of that but that's not gonna help us get where we want so it's it's not as clear to me and the only the other thing that popped in my mind again I don't want to make this more difficult I know we're trying to get more closure on what measures are and I got to think about this one a little a little bit more but we do have a this is about Issaquah and we have a place within the region as well and and I think I think that war there to be satisfaction with growth and development with in Issaquah it's its most appreciated and understood I think if there's an understanding of what's happening around us and and and how well we are still in control and getting the outcomes that we want in spite of or because of what's happening around us so this this one is I'm sorry it's a little bit more gray in my mind in terms of measures thank you all right let's move on okay environmental stewardship environmental resources are proactively enhanced protected and stewarded five measures emerged here about tree canopy coverage water quality carbon emissions resource area restoration and protection and community knowledge so a mix of both that survey and sort of harder if you will quantitative data it's very interesting you can go to another extreme from the previous slide and then one that says we're gonna measure benthic index of micro and vertebrate biology integrity that is awesome just saying you what extent do we think we can and why I am as much as anybody about carbon emissions but to what extent can the city of Issaquah impact a carbon emission number not a scientist great point and that's where he get back to ability to influence might be a criteria and so a question for you is is that a realistic measure for the city and if you're gonna grade your own performance on your own plan do you want to put that out there is so Mike my question might be if there would be some other way to measure carbon impact on things that we do control right so we've got I mean I don't know LEED certification we've got you know it's leads equivalent and other building technology we've got carbon sequestration of city projects I mean I don't know I'm not ready to decide it tonight but it just seems like there might be measures for carbon that we could that would be there would relate more to things that we can control councilmember Goodman I guess one general question I would have that's I guess it's a I don't know the answer because I wasn't in all the meetings but it would surprise me if environmental if under environmental stewardship having something to do with carbon emissions in Issaquah was a real priority for our community but i'm i would highly doubt it based on the feedback that we've gotten over the last several years with in the last 20 years with transportation and growth and maybe the comment from the community would be were like well with all the traffic you know we're not doing a very good job but i I'm having a hard time believing that that's really important to our community it comes from member Ramos first getting mecca in the carbon emission part I think I think we are doing that and that's our sustainability plan and the details of which are in there are the things we can't control obviously we can't control the cars driving down i-90 right but the things we can do with with with some solar projects we're doing in the city there's lots of things that we can do to make a dent in it for our part of what we can't control and I think that's in our sustainability plan as far as that goes so that's one comment there the other comment is on tree canopy coverage there it talks about tree can you know the title there is repeated which are Canada coverage and landscape condition that to me is not it doesn't say we're doing anything they're tricking coverage you have a measure of that but we also have a lot of lands we talked about of actually trying to manage our forests and open space in a way that is developing you know more land management plans for our open spaces versus landscape condition that sounds like it's just a data collection thing I think it wants to be more active on that and what are we doing to manage our open space in our forest that we have a lot of acres out so next council members winter stein then petites than goodman D'Andre i think and well these are measurable and I'm not so I guess I shouldn't be surprised at under environmental stewardship we'd have perhaps a little more corners on our box of what we're trying to measure so I generally think you're headed in the right direction and and when I first saw this I thought okay what you have down there at number four it's there I think this restoration in particular and wait and you just think about what we've been doing along Issaquah Creek in its various tributaries that is tributaries that is actually something we can measure we can measure what we're doing with you know sensitive lands as well there's a lot of key not only protecting but in restoration I think water quality is very clear I think tree canopy I agree with what bill said earlier that there may be some more to pull out of that but we should we can measure that and we can track it over time so all in all I think this is a this is got a lot more feet underneath it and I'll say around carbon emissions we're a member of the global community and more especially our children become aware that the choices and that they make and our behaviors do contribute to this worldwide issue and the more and more communities that do that that's how we'll actually be part of the solution so it's important to me that we continue to keep this in front of us as well I was deputy president patís so just in regard to I I think the first three topics I'll start with carbon emissions I'll start with the third but I would agree I think that it could be built out a bit more in terms of sustainability overall I think it's really important to have there but there's seem to be some missing pieces in terms of green building and what we've done with solar and just being able to expand that and probably more that we could measure water quality I guess my question with water quality is that is there more that we could add there in terms of getting getting the measures that we I mean that's very specific but are there more and that would be the same comment that I would have for tree canopy I think that there's I think the language is pretty general I think that we could there's a lot that that goes into looking at tree canopy coverage but also the impacts that it could have for example looking at stormwater and all of all of the different elements that could fall under tree canopy there I think there might be more that could be measured than what we have okay thank you that's we have a good man sure thanks I just wanted to clarify I didn't say it wasn't important what I'm saying and I realized and thank you Bill and I realized that we we have this in our city policies already I'm I'm just a tad bit concerned that we're placing an emphasis on it here where I'm not sure that's where the community thinks that we should there's the emphasis increased emphasis should be that's so I'm not saying it's not important I'm not saying that we it's important for our children and future generations to focus on it I just like I said I'm very skeptical skeptical that our community thinks that in our strategic plan this is super important that we need to expand on that I would think that they would think we need to spend our resources elsewhere we got a this is a public engagement opportunity tonight and there which we heard there's nobody from the public here tonight but we did get an email from from Connie and I she says of the environmental section that this section discusses resource lands yet another name of a specific extremely narrow zone we also have public open space critical areas buffers setbacks private open space yet there's no particular way to address their care and fee there's no discussion in here of how they connect together to create habitat and wildlife corridors even though even through the more urban areas and there's not language to enforce those connections she has a list of some things that we can use to measure and I don't need to read those off but this we did get community input regarding this section and she also has six other points and I would just ask that we recognized that we got this comment from the public and that we would include it in our in your further review and revisions Thanks Thanks it comes from an array I think it's already been covered I'm good all right sounds member hunt I would just add on what councilmember Goodman said I think there as as Connie pointed out in her letter I think there could be more expansionist particularly around habitat and connectivity for wildlife which I do hear from the public is as one of the important things so something around habitat that refers to both water I think and in forested lands and then also expanding or better defining the resource area because lake facility I think that that's not clear and probably also not all-encompassing enough thank you anything else on this slide let's remember ray no you're just smiling all right we can move on I want to reiterate part of my introduction to this session is where we're trying to get to is some high level measures of the goal of the goals all the activities that you may do every activity should probably have measures about how it's going but what it seems to me at the council level your goal is environmental resources are proactively enhanced protected and stewarded and I would love to see you have one measure that said are we doing that you know and and suggestion we spend more time on this one let's go on I just want to remind you that there are so many things that we could measure that are all interesting at some level but you'll never have time to review those measures and figure out what they mean and you can't afford to pay your staff to spend all that time measuring so they're bringing you good data so if we got if we could only measure a handful of things that would tell us are we getting to our strategic plan what are those things so I think what you're hearing tonight from the council is a preference for quantitative over data but I've heard that hearing is that environmental stewardship is a particularly strong point for us right yeah I mean you saw that you know we had three for mobility we had well we split we suggested perhaps a split on one of those into four but we had three for growth and development every was fine and on this one there was talked to potentially additional so respectfully the way I would I would say the thing to learn from this is you want a lot of measures and especially a lot of environmental stewardship there you go okay I heard that Thanks right social and economic vitality you get the drill here but we've got living wage jobs business growth housing cost burdened live in work and access to supportive services that I see council member Ramos is in no okay that's member a is a living wage thing yeah yes okay what is it I couldn't tell you offhand but I know that it's look fine what does it imply is it like poverty level times four is it based on the cost of we will get the answer that but I believe there's a specific definition for it we just again so there is a specific way of measuring that that's standardized and it looks at things like basic needs and kind of costs for households of different sizes my recollection is that for a family of four in this in this area it's around seventy seventy five thousand dollars per year let me expand on that David just a little bit further how hard is it to measure that do we measure that now and and what's the workload to measure something like that so we don't do that that measure there's actually I think part of the work going forward if we choose to use this as identifying which tool we use there are tools that are used nationally but also applied locally I can get a specific as this COIs or the east side there is a variant on that which is put together by the university of washington and i forget what it's called at the moment but it's a similar kind of a basic needs and it excludes you know dining out and entertainment it's really just the kind of core things that a household needs to function so we would rely on that and then apply that to data that we could collect from the Employment Security Division all right that's mayor winters time number one looks at how much business are paying their employees number two looks at how much businesses are paying the city in forms of taxes those seem to be the collective measurements of economic vitality as far as I can tell think that there are other established means of measuring economic vitality beyond those I don't know if we get our hands on them but I think in terms of you know at the really large scales to get to this point about maybe one number and I'm not saying this is it but but there are various institutions that measure how much I'll take you know just you know capital investment there's just there's a number of ways of measuring economic activity and growth beyond what we have on this slide and your suggestion is that they would be better than these ones it would give yes what's what's the goal of this goal have an economically vital vital and growing community that prevented that has created and continues to create opportunities for people to to work here and afford to live within proximity of where they live and and it's going to be a it's going to be a growing economy that provides those opportunities for our growing city we have to be able to measure how well the business area is actually doing and I don't think these are at council deputy president booties so I would agree with councilmember winter Stein and and I think that my my take when I when I was looking at this is that getting the data source from for example the Employment Security Division and the Department of Revenue just seemed like the very basics and that there are definitely are elements that would go beyond one you know and and I think that there's a variety of different ways that we could look at it but I definitely think we could expand how we're looking to measure that because I it seems that you know I I feel like some of this might be things were already doing a little bit or we might already have a feel for that and those are just sort of the basic reports that we get so I think we have to reach further beyond that and one one thing in particular that that I think would be helpful would be doing a commercial space analysis for for the city of Issaquah and understanding what what is available in terms of commercial and what would be available to employers as they're coming in okay so some direction to staff on considering commercial space space availability for this measure councilmember Goodman you know I'm I'm I don't I'm not getting this sense that you have the right things were measuring care for either social or economic vitality I don't know what it is I just did a couple of internet searches and I'm not I think there are some established ways of measuring economic vitality and I would guess that there are similar ways for so for the social part of it but this doesn't this strikes me is it's just kind of a smattering of things that we are trying to connect and I'm not sure it does that I mean okay thank you all right thank you I have a question around housing cost burden so 30% is that 30% of pre-tax or post-tax because I was just if it's 30% of pre-tax that I could probably tell you the answer it's probably a hundred percent it's probably a hundred percent next year and it's probably give me a hundred percent the year after that so I'm just wondering how I thought housing cost burden in this area was a higher bogey than 30 percent of pre-tax yeah isn't that most everybody in Issaquah is greater than 30 percent of their of their gross 30 percent is a pretty standard usage for cost being considered housing cost burdened and it's mortgages are 36 percent right well okay but I'm just speculating that this is a number that in this region is going to be very very high no no we've heard data in the past where we have the full spectrum of low to high we have this in our housing strategy plan we were presented this data all right thank you thank you Paul other questions on this page comes member winters time I was gonna say I think that's a good measure by the way I think that was an important one because it does have many layers it is about the earning earnings of people who live here and the effect of housing market and the overall economy so I think this is a it's a yeah we'll probably stew on these measures a little bit more but that's what I would like you to keep their questions on this page council deputy president Vitesse just a question for David I think just access to supportive services i we've got service provider data and the healthy healthy youth survey all the that would be great to have the healthy youth youth survey but I think that there I was just wondering our own needs analysis needs assessment is not listed there and there might be some others that we could draw from as as opposed to that just seemed very specific I think so like many of these factors but in this category in particular there's there's so many different types of needs or services that could be addressed it's hard to distill that down to the critical one or a few even and so even this I think is one that will require some additional development as we go forward and develop the healthy community strategy in the next year our expectations that will help to refine some this goal this metric in particular we do know that we can get some data from the service providers who operate in our community but you know kind of distilling that down amongst the different service providers to identify have the gap or the need or the service provided versus the turned away we think we can get some of that information but I think this is still going to require some some additional work David while you're still there yes so living workforce energy people who live and work in Issaquah so is that of the people live in Issaquah what percentage work in Issaquah and of the percentage of people that work in Issaquah what percentage live in Issaquah that is I believe you can slice it both ways yes I think both are those are those those are the pair of numbers that I think if when I think in that question yes all right the questions on this page I'm gonna move core infrastructure three measures renewal and replacement rate percentage of assets funded for renewal and replacement asset maintenance deferral rate quality of drinking water rating of the quality drinking water services in Issaquah and infrastructure investment percentage of central Issaquah infrastructure investments funded or built versus total identified you speak up a little bit yeah Erin do I'm gonna read them again I can do that I could do that renewal and replacement rate percentage of assets funded for renewal and replacement asset maintenance deferral rate City source city data is the source quality of drinking water rating the quality of drinking water services in Issaquah survey data and then infrastructure investment percentage of central Issaquah infrastructure investments funded or built versus total identified I thought there was no information there right questions on this page I'm Samantha Ramos we're kind of on drinking water again here and I think that we got a whole lot more detailed there on their environmental question of water quality right I don't think that was relying to talking about creeks and so forth so I think we got that hit in kind of two places there don't need it in both places I need it in both places and the other one has a lot more detail right and then the infrastructure investment and it says percentage of central Issaquah infrastructure investments so I'm wondering why we just identify any central Issaquah it's a piece of that I know that I mean obvious there's some things being new so quad but there's a whole lot of rest of yeah I mean I let I can let David or Emily speak to this but I know that it is responding to one of the objectives in the strategic plan okay okay bring anything else on this page I'm some chumps remember ray how you know okay all right I think we can probably move on okay city leadership and services the last strategic priority area the goal statement is leadership and accountability is provided in the delivery of public services for our growing and diversifying community the six measures that were sort of emerged here the first five are proposed coming from these are really about basically consumer confidence or resident and community confidence in a variety of different aspects of city governance engagement satisfaction quality of services value as respected to tax taxes paid equity and inclusion and accountability so confidence in the government all those being proposed using survey data and then financial performance is the sixth one sort of performance on adopted financial indicators I have a question for CD administrator moon does it ma have standard metrics that one can apply towards some of these things because I mean this is again one of these lots of qualitative not much quantitative does it may have have metrics that cities can use to sort of evaluate their value of services quality of services etc so the National citizen survey which is done by National Research Center that's an RC on the slide here is the adopted tool for assessing citizen satisfaction and on performance on city leadership and services so these questions most of them are standardized questions on that survey instrument and that's the way it is measured across the country it's the way that I see may suggest that cities do measure it they they have some additional suggested ways of measuring but this is the first and foremost so it's it's there it's their way of evaluating citizen perception or response but they're like you're saying there's not an ICM a way to say metrics to say how efficient is our parks oh I'm sorry I I didn't understand on the services side ICA has a whole host of ways to measure provision of services satisfaction is about perception and that is what I assume a recommends be measured to assess satisfaction but quality of service there are some other metrics that ima points to or an RPA which is the national parks association for example okay so we're talking about satisfaction but we don't actually a little satisfaction up there right we're just we happen to as we were putting these together use satisfaction and and we that should be part of it but I'm suggesting that perhaps some of these objective metrics could also be part of this as well yes and then I would say it's a it's a question of which services are you gonna measure how many men how many measurements are going to have we of course collect that kind of data at the management level to assess performance of our services so the measurements that we pick for the strategic plan aren't plan aren't the only measurements that were monitoring across city services this was just meant to be a collection that we thought was a good proxy for getting to that bold statement well council members Oh buddy Oh buddy you ready we're coming up on three hours here we mi starting to lose people counts member Hut um so my thought on this one is that I I think some of these would be hard for me to interpret if if they were given as as stated so for example residents who believe the quality of services provided by Issaquah exceed expectations if if we have a number with that it's sort of building into things it's that people believe in the quality of services but it also has something to do with what their expectations were so I just would struggle with with some of this and I felt the same way about value of services rating relative to taxes maybe they feel a certain way about taxes but they also feel that so there's there's a number of here that I would feel or difficult so a lot of a lot of this the value here comes from looking at trends year over year when you're asking the same question every year and so you're right that any given year it's not going to tell you all that much it could be a little idiosyncratic but if you're asking the same question every year then you can start to get a sense of if you're moving in the right direction or not and whether you need to intervene yeah and I would say to some of them I think are more clear-cut so for example rating of overall confidence but that may change from year to year but that's also easier for me to interpret again you might have two things changing year to year with your expectations changing year to year as well as your quality of services rating could change and you wouldn't it would be difficult for me to tease those apart so I just felt like some of these are not only are they kind of subjective but they're also multifaceted and it would be difficult to understand transit City Administrator moon the other thing that I would point out is for quality of services for example or importance of services on a survey instrument we asked those questions at the specific service level so we have list of let's say 24 services that get rated so just to make sure that you understood that's another way that the data is helpful it's not we have it all aggregated we ask it that way and then we ask it broken up at a different service type other questions on this slide I want to set the stage we are ostensibly going to be done in six minutes I suspect would not give me done in six minutes but I I do think we probably need to escalate the pace a little bit for the remainder of this evening because we're all back at Tibbets Manor at 7:15 morning yes I I hear that yep so that the purpose we've done sort of the we wanted to get meaningful direction and feedback on the measures that we got I think like we've accomplished that and staff will take that direction and we will be pulling together a new iteration on a refined set of goal level performance measures the next piece of this was designed to give you a flavor for the all that work that Brian sort of previewed at the beginning of the draft actions that's the all that work the staffs been doing with the templates trying to develop actions for to support every objective in the strategic plan and so we have a series of slides that so it gives the highest level but the idea is here is not to dive into sort of detail on any one of those but just to get a sense of the overall flavor and your initial reactions and feedback yeah so so we're just just giving you a flavour and if you if you don't talk we'll be done in two minutes so just to get time for everything again give you a quick reminder you have six goals and a number of objectives under each goal and then they break down into specific actions staff has been working on these so you've got the mobility goal there has five objectives and then each one of those five objectives the staff has identified a number of actions on those and then in growth and development there were three objectives and there are three or four actions for each of those on environmental stewardship there were four objectives and there are several actions under each of those on social and economic vitality you had four objectives and again the staff has identified a number of actions their core infrastructure two objectives and actions their city leadership and services four objectives and a number of actions there and then if you add it all up it looks like that and the point here is there's been a lot of work done on trying to figure out exactly how do what is it we have to do to try and respond to the direction we have from council here and I guess our overall message is there's a lot there and we think the council has done great work on identifying the objectives and being really specific about that and we're at work as we've just been doing at identifying high level performance measures and then we think in the level of implementation it's up this up to the staff to figure out what these actions are work with you on the annual work plan and the budget and then they're managing it at that level you don't want to have the conversation that we've been having about all of this detail for all of those or will be here right through the night so next steps in this process then where are we going from here staff work on the final actions and the measures the high level measures you just gave us feedback on council work session in January final review in February community review in February March council review in April and adoption of the final strategic plan in May that's what we're going from here so I have what may be a large ask for City Administrator moon but it's not for tomorrow or the next month so hopefully you go back up one slide so let's assume for a second we can all do this this year coming here let's assume we can't even necessarily do all of it in five years I would like when we have the conversation in May if at all possible I would like to have at least a straw man of what we can think of what we think we can do over those five years and maybe it's you know maybe it's a little bit of everything in some of these things it's 90% and some of these things it's 10% of the item but a little bit of an idea of what the five years looks like rather than just the the one upcoming year because it this is obvious there's obviously a ton here and it's obviously really expensive when you put all 80 together is that reasonable yes I think we've been anticipated doing something along those lines okay other questions all right Brian thank you very much and sorry when do we see you next anyway are we at the council work session in January I think so yeah well happy holidays and we'll see you in January thanks to you all right any closing comments from anybody before we adjourn and I just want to point out thank you everybody we are done one minute ahead of schedule we are adjourned you