Welcome everyone. I, Council Member Walsh, call the February 24th, 2026 City Council Services, Safety, and Parks Committee to order. I am joined by Deputy Council President uh Mart, and we have an excused absence for our other member, Council Member Nichols. The next item on the agenda is public comment. And I will just note that there is no one in the room. And I do not believe there is anyone online. So I will just note um if anybody does watch this later and wants to make comments, we always welcome them by emailing uh city councilwa.gov. Uh next item of business, approval of the minutes. The minutes were distributed to the committee in advance. Are there any corrections? >> No. >> Okay. Hearing none. Um the minutes are approved as presented. Okay. We have one item on our agenda tonight and that is COM 0229 hazard mitigation plan update presented by Jared Snyder, our emergency manager. Um we are going to have staff presentation, committee Q&A, uh any public comments if there is anyone at that point and then committee deliberation and recommendation. So Jared, we will let you take this one away. Thank you, council members. I'm pulling up my presentation. All right, does that look good? All right. Good casting. Okay. Alrighty. Well, uh, first of all, hello and good evening. Thank you for having me here today. It's always a pleasure to get the opportunity to talk about emergency management and, you know, the programs that we have here at the city. Um, and really drill down deep into uh, one of them today being the hazard mitigation plan update. So the purpose that um I'm before you today is to really talk about a few things. One is to review our draft annex to the uh hazard mitigation plan provide fe to get you all to provide feedback or direction on our hazard mitigation strategies. Help us with prioritizing that is and then uh really recommending that the full city council adopt the annex as part of the King County regional hazard mitigation plan or not of course. And then finally at the end, we're going to have a little bit of uh time to uh have uh guidance and feedback provided on the broader emergency management program. As we heard uh via a council retreat, it was brought up and placed on the uh bike rack of uh ideas, if you will. So kind of an opportunity to talk about what we're planning on and some potential areas for growth in the future. So the direction needed is one recommend changes or adoption of Isqua's hazard mitigation plan annex and then give feedback on the broader emergency management program. So uh let's talk about the first item first um recommend changes or adoption of our hazard mitigation plan. Uh to set the tone and really describe where this plan sits in emergency management in the city. Uh as a reminder, we have three major lines of business, if you will, in emergency management. The first being emergency response, of course. You know, that's really uh the bread and butter of or the core function of what we do, making sure that we respond effectively as a city to emergencies uh and disasters alike. The second is community preparedness. That's making sure our residents are ready for disasters. And then third is risk reduction, and that's reducing our long-term uh vulnerability to hazards. And that's really the core of the plan uh that we're talking about today. It's it's almost like the work plan, if you will. So, it's a very important part of what we do uh in emergency management here in the city. And so, I'm happy, like I said, to take a deep dive into it and kind of explain where we would like to take our risk reduction efforts uh in the city. So, first, let's uh start from the top. What what is hazard mitigation planning? And um one, it's federally required. So, it's a it's a federally required plan um that's designed to reduce our risk through targeted investments in mitigation essentially um efforts that reduce our exposure to our many hazards that we have. So part of it is assessing those hazards, what our risks are and vulnerabilities and then finally you know developing the okay what are we going to do about it now that we have a good uh grasp of what our of what our hazards are and our vulnerabilities. Um it also is an opportunity to engage with stakeholders right individuals and partners that is uh in conversations about uh about resilience about mitigation about our hazards. So, it's uh it's an opportunity there. And then really, like I mentioned, it's kind of our work plan for risk reduction through the next 5 years. It's a 5-year plan. So, um let's talk about where we've been with this planning process and and where we are now. So, uh we have participated in King County's base plan. Um and like I mentioned, this plan is an annex on King County's plan. So, they had it's a regional plan. all jurisdictions within King County um have the opportunity to um annex onto the plan as well as special purpose districts, fire districts and the like. Um many have, many have not. Um we are one that is choosing to annex onto the plan. Typically the jurisdictions that do not annex onto the plan are the larger ones like Seattle and Belleview. But for uh medium to smaller sized jurisdictions, it's uh it's truly the way to go as King County cuts down a lot of the work needed to to do these plans. So it it makes sense. So I was actually part of the steering committee for that uh plan and we as such uh we had good representation and um ability to kind of get our feedback if you will into the plan. The next uh part of the planning process is we convened an internal team um internal of city departments um but also external in a sense working with partners like east side fire and rescue and other community organizations that we work with frequently in emergency management to um document our hazards and understand our risks. Uh the next step was using that same group where we started to strategize okay what are we going to do about those hazards and risks now that we feel like we understand them. Uh after that we drafted the plan of which you have seen. Um King County and Washington state approved our plan. They gave us back feedback. We've since incorporated it. Um and that's also part of the document that you have. And then we're here on the flowchart. So um each hazard mitigation plan needs to be approved by uh by the authoritative body for us being city council. So um once it is approved hopefully by city council then we can move for federal approval where FEMA signs off on our plan and says that yes you have a true hazard mitigation plan. Um, so also just backing up real quick too, I I want to I want to state like this is very important also to not just uh not just to develop these strategies, but it also I I don't know if I mentioned this, but this makes us eligible for federal grants at many different grant rounds and levels. And so it's um it's a mechanism that we do really need in place to really partake in those uh opportunities, those federal funding opportunities. So what you see here is the hazards that we plan for um within the context of our annex. So we have two different categories, natural and human caused. So in natural we have earthquake, severe weather. Severe weather is kind of a catch-all if you will for like snowstorms, bomb cyclones, uh uh things of that nature, events of that nature, landslide, wildfire, flood, and volcano. And you know, you might be thinking, you know, is lava going to impact the city of Visquad? No, it's it's not lava. It's more terra, which is like ash fall from volcanoes is what we're planning for. It can actually be uh quite damaging to things like flat roofs, to mechanical equipment, electrical equipment. Um there is there is hazard associated with it. In terms of human-caused hazards, we're planning for hazardous material releases, um health incidents, which are things like pandemics, terrorism, civil disturbance, a cyber incident, and then finally a dam failure. And uh dam failure might also come as a bit of a surprise. Uh but some of our storm water ponds are actually large enough that when they have full pools, they are considered to be uh dams by Washington State Department of Ecology. And if they fail, there could be uh downstream impacts to residents, businesses, and the community alike. So the next step of the planning process was to take a hard look at our hazards um determine their impacts on our community and then where we were vulnerable. And so that group that I mentioned that was made up of uh many different city departments and partners. Uh this is where things landed in our ranking of things. Wildfire and earthquake were the two hazards that um that we saw that we have the highest risk of of of having impacts really within Isiqua followed by extreme weather, cyber incidents, health and volcano and then the rest you can see as kind of diminishing in there. So that's where staff ranked things. >> Yeah. Question council member M. >> Yeah, I have a question. So I'm used to traditional risk management being severity times likelihood. >> Yes. >> Right. So can you explain I I don't understand exposure and susceptibility. >> Yeah. >> As compared to like I said traditional likelihood. >> Yeah. And so that's um that's great that you brought that up. The risk equation changed a little at the federal uh level recently. And so the likelihood is wrapped up into um vulnerability, susceptibility. Now it's uh just a rebranding if you will to some uh sense of it. But, uh, really what they're getting at too, right, is just like the that, yeah, the likelihood of it, like how what what are the odds that this could happen here. So, that's a great thing to flag. >> Okay. And so these numbers you're showing here, 1.74, 1.9, 2.19, these are the risk numbers where you've multiplied severity times exposure times susceptibility. >> That's right. Yeah. So, um, what we did is we had every single staff member or partner, um, who participated, um, go through a scoring matrix and then we added them all up, um, did these equations and this is, uh, the results of that. >> Got it. Okay, >> thank you. >> Yeah, that that seems like a good methodology. >> Um, I did have actually one question when in the section on wildfire. Are you going to get more into details? >> Yes, I I'll save it. I'll save my question. >> Yeah. Um yeah, we'll uh we'll address kind of our approach to wildfire. We have a mitigation strategy that specifically addresses wildfire and so we can uh cover more of it there. >> I'll hold my question. Thanks. >> Okay, awesome. Thank you. >> Um so a big part of hazard mitigation planning too is we also uh turn these plans out to the community, right? Or or engage with the community and hopes to get uh some feedback on where they see their priorities being, right? So, we uh brought this big posterboard sized uh really dot dot activity out to uh many different community engagements asking individuals or is where where what are you most worried about as an Isqua resident, right? What are what keeps you up at night? And you know, it was actually uh it was kind of twofold, right? As you can see the collection of the data here, right? you see that earthquake, severe weather and wildfire were really what the community was worried about as well as cyber incident which I thought was notable as fourth. Um but it was also served as an icebreaker right for our community to talk about this work more in depth right so it wasn't just a put the dot up on the board right and then all right have a nice day right it really served as an opportunity to talk about um not only like what we're trying to do with hazard mitigation but emergency management in general so uh the feedback that we received I think was it was really interesting and beneficial to our plan formation um I want to dive a little bit deeper into mitigation um in itself like why are mitigation projects actually something that we should be doing in Isqua and really it it's a good investment. So it's been well studied and documented um by FEMA that every dollar invested in mitigation saves $6 in future disaster costs. And so that's a 600% return on investment, right? That's a that's a pretty good number when it comes to uh when it comes to money, right? And so to that effect, um, when we do have disasters, it protects our general fund. It preserves economic activity because we're able to, you know, withstand disasters better. It reduces insurance costs not only for the city, but our residents through part of the community rating system, um, which is really speaking to flood insurance. So, a lot of these actions that we take can actually lower our residents um, flood insurance costs, which is a huge service. Uh, the next is it leverages federal funding. Right? Like I mentioned, there's many grants available uh that we hope to take advantage of and including following this big December storm that we had. Um the initial damage estimates for Washington state are $181 million of public infrastructure damage, right? So that's jurisdictional damage. And so what that means is following a presidentially declared disaster, typically 15% of that is made available back to the impacted jurisdictions in the form of grants. In this case, that's $27 million in grants. And so, you know, that's a huge opportunity, right, of federal funding that we would like to take advantage of here in Isiqua. And so, um, that's just one example of a grant round. Uh, the next is it protects vulnerable residents, right? We can invest in projects that specifically protect our most vulnerable. It shortens recovery time. You know, recovery time is so essential for getting life back to normal, businesses, right? continuing business and the like. And uh really it futureproofs our infrastructure too, right? So it's it's an investment in the future, right? Making sure that whenever one of these events happen um we're prepared to we're prepared for it and that we don't have to go back and um rebuild uh to the same extent we would otherwise. So I wanted to highlight just a few examples in Isiqua of mitigation in the past. And so um here's an example of some flood buyouts here. What you see in the red circle is two homes. Um, in the next slide, you'll see that those homes we actually bought out and have since turned into green space. That happens to be where we uh put our sandbag or one of our sandbag filling stations uh currently, right? To make uh available to residents on the east fork that typically flood out. Uh that's one example. Two more here is a solar and storage project at Isqua Center. So recently we received funding through uh Washington State Department of Commerce to put not only solar panels but also a battery system that will last for um quite a while to power that building uh following um following power loss, which is great not only for the building itself and our carbon uh reduction goals, but it also keeps a generator, a portable generator in our suite of assets that we can use to, you know, uh put either different resilience hubs or pump stations or the Right. So there's also trickle down impacts from uh money that we spend in these mitigation projects. Uh the last example I wanted to highlight was Confluence Park and this is a drone footage shot from the December flooding that we have and you know you can kind of see how there is flood spilling into Confluence Park. Uh you can't quite tell from this individual picture but there's uh homes right if you look at the top of the of the picture there right that are that are not flooded out but the park there is behaving exactly how we like it. Right. it's becoming um it has this mitigation impact in our community and um you know relatively low impacts to the park itself but big impacts for the community members that you know could have potentially been flooded out by this event. So those are just a few local examples of some mitigation successes that we've had. Um and I hope that kind of serves as like a as a catalyst, you know, for dreaming, if you will, about what we could do in this city when it comes to risk reduction. So with that, um these are the hazard mitigation strategies that our planning group came up with. And I should note that um FEMA requires that we have a hazard mitigation strategy for each of our hazards identified within our plan. So there are some um that are smaller in nature, right, to kind of tackle or very niche, if you will, to tackle some of these um uh more corner cases u for hazards. Some of them are larger. And I should also say too, right, um at this point, most of these mitigation strategies are they're uh aspirational in a sense, right? We're we're not um we can't commit ourselves to doing all of them right now with our existing level of funding, right? But these are the things that we as um as a group, as a planning group have come up with as potential solutions to our risks uh for these hazards. So, um, spending a little bit of time on them because I would love to hear your feedback on what you see as potential priorities for us to, um, maybe put at the top of the list, if you will, uh, for our staff to start working on or to potentially fund and future budget discussions. I just wanted to provide a brief overview of of all of them. So, uh, the first and foremost is critical infrastructure seismic retrofits. So this is taking a look at our critical infrastructure, evaluating um it under our modern understanding of our seismic threat and then really determining what the best course of action is thereafter. Right? So some infrastructure will be fine, some may need uh a retrofit to actually remain functional following a maximum credible earthquake. The next is special flood hazard area risk reduction. So this is uh this is a complimentary mitigation strategy to uh other plans that we have in the city and a lot of the works that public works does to reduce our um flood risk but really what it's looking at is elevating acquiring and mitigating repetitive loss properties but also upgrading our infrastructure for for flooding. I should also mention too if at any point if you want to drill down deeper into any of these I'm definitely happy to to take a break and stop. So, Council Member Marts, um, this is the wildfire risk reduction implementation strategy. Um, so this strategy, it speaks specifically to really adapting our west of West of the Cascades communities and finding mitigation strategies that work for our community. Right? As as I've come before and talked to council about before, there's a big difference between east of the Cascades and West of the Cascades fire regimes. And so making sure that our strategies that we do do are uh tailored to us here at Nisqua. But it's also implementing our wildfire evacuation time estimate study results. So these uh chiefly the main things called out in the mitigation strategy are our evacuation routes. So doing formal studies on um the viability of the engineering behind them, making sure that uh the roads up in Forest Grim and the Highlands are studied and we can see uh take the next step of implementation in those. And of course based on what we find, right, then that's when we can um work them into a potential capital improvement uh project or or the like. And so this is our big wildfire uh project. >> Yeah. >> Great. What's the timeline? >> Yeah. So, this plan, right, is uh this is, if you will, the work plan, right, of our of our risk reduction efforts. And so, I'm hearing that this is a priority and some communication that you've also sent to me. So, you know, this is if this is the direction that council has, we can we can put this at the top of the list. Now, of course, we don't have um currently funding, right, like set aside for for doing those um formal studies, but yeah, >> to be clear, wildfire and I think earthquake are the two highest in your risk management. So, it's not like council member Mart is asking you to go down a rabbit hole on some project of his, right? These are this is one of the two areas that that your own analysis said we need to be the most pro proactive regarding. Absolutely. Yes. Sorry, I I apologize if I implied that. >> I just wanted to be clear for anybody who might be listening that that it ties back to the slide we talked to a little bit ago where you know civil insurrection and volcanic hazards are nothing compared to earthquake and and wildfire hazards. Those are just a whole different level both of um impact should they happen and likelihood of occurring. >> Yeah, that's that's that's exactly right. and you know and the staff agrees yes to your point with that assessment and so >> so what I'm hearing you say is that um although um you said it was uh FEMA requires that we have plans I guess it doesn't require that we execute those plans >> no and so yeah which is >> that's hilarious >> yeah it is it is right it's it's an interesting um honestly I think it it shows that these plans right in themselves like I said are a little more aspirational but I should say the staff is is quite committed to to mitigating and um this is these efforts I would say uh with that federal big grant funding round that's going to be ma made available right these are the types of opportunities that outside of our existing budget right those are the things that we can try to take advantage of to push the timelines on our regular funding mechanisms to make these things happen faster and so um that's absolutely a priority right wildfire was our number two in that in that risk assessment So that's the type of project that we would like to prioritize moving forward. Now the timeline of course um I didn't answer your question about the timeline only because you know um we don't have a solid one yet for when when we would get those more formal studies done but um working towards that is uh is what I'm hearing and and is one of our priorities. So, so, okay. So, if earthquake and wildfire are the two most serious ones, um, is there a point where and and you're saying that we're not going to we're not going to delve into our what we've outlined for FEMA and until >> or until the council funds that activity? Yeah. Is there a point where we get an alleart list where it says we need $437 for this and we need $827 for that? Yeah. So what our plan is to incorporate these mitigation uh projects into the next CIP budget round. And so um that which is yeah thank which is actually something where it it legitimizes this plan right to your point uh council member Marts of making it less aspirational and more concrete right and then it'll be in the regular uh funding process. Okay. And so if we're serious about these things, we can we can actually take those those normal steps and not have to explore these uh roundabout methods, right, of funding and the like. So yes, >> Jared, so on some of these particularly on the two top priorities, can you talk a little bit more about the individual like implementation plan? So like for the wildfire risk reduction on page 45 of the annex, it talks about two-year objectives, five-year objectives, and long-term objectives. I assume that came from staff. Does it connect anything into our existing budget or CIP or is that just kind of the next step that you envision there? >> That that is the next step. So, I am yeah, I'm really hoping that this this plan, right, doesn't become shelf art is a term that we sometimes use with plans, right? I I really want to operationalize it and make it a normal part of the the potential um options that we have to fund. So, yeah, those those two-year and fiveyear plans and long-term objectives, right, or those goals, rather, uh that's part of the standard that King County puts out as like a mitigation annex. So, we have to follow those. But uh this sounds like a good opportunity to just talk about like how we plan to go about uh keeping track of our progress towards these mitigation strategies. And um what it looks like is there's a p point of contact assigned to each of the strategies, right? And um I'll have yearly check-ins with those point of contacts to see progress and many of them happen to be uh projects where I am the lead for as well too. And so um we'll have a uh internal tracking sheet of our progress towards those objectives and um we're happy to share back our progress right as we march towards those goals through the through the life of the plan. So yeah um great. So I'll continue uh to talk about the mitigation strategies or highlight a few more of them but uh the next up is Isqua Police Department civil disorder training. So, uh, this is to really establish standardized and recoccurring training for our, uh, police officers to make sure that they feel confident in, uh, responding to civil disturbances. Next is resilience hub imp implementation. So, um, as you may know, we have resilience hubs uh, scattered throughout the city if we're working on expanding them further. um they're meant to be uh locations where people can go to in any disaster, hoping that the lights are on, a place where people can receive some base level of support, right? And so we are um hoping to expand that network and make those locations even more resilient to disasters, right? So that strategy really speaks to the work that we are partnering with sustainability on to make sure that um they are they are available and that they can be these like um these these cornerstones of resilience in our neighborhoods if you will. Uh a community GIS hazard viewer is uh speaking to the need to really get this information out into the community. Right? You you'll see in the plan that we have these maps of these hazard areas, right? But that's not a very user-friendly way of going about finding information and the potential impacts uh to the community. So we'd like to create a hazard viewer where residents um and businesses and even city folks too, right, can have this one place where we can see hazards and understand uh better understand our risk and incorporate them into our planning. The next is city building, seismic analysis and retrofit. So um we talked about critical infrastructure. This is the city building side of things. And so I should mention that um we've been this is one strategy that we carried over from the last plan. Um we've done some work on it already. We've received funding through two grants to do sizing assessments on some of our buildings being uh city hall, the public works campus, and then the next round that's coming up is um really parks buildings. So community center, senior center, uh Pickering Barn, and the ops building uh that facility shares. And so we've found, you know, over the course of those studies, right, about some of the upgrades we need to make to city hall. And so once um once we get through the rest of these assessments, that'll help us prioritize actually or justify rather going after these bigger, larger seismic retrofit projects um and really taking that those studies to the next level, if you will. City critical infrastructure energy resilience. So this is also a carryover from our last uh plan. And really this just speaks to the need to have resilient power systems at our critical facilities being buildings and infrastructure to make sure that they remain operational. Right? I brought up the senior center with the solar and battery um storage, right? But our goal is to to really have um these key elements of our infrastructure hardened. I mean the bomb cyclone was so revoly, right? And just how strained um we can get right when when we're faced with these long power outages. Uh the next is post wildfire development and high-risisk debris flow zones. So uh this is about updating our land use and development regulations to to really take a hard look at what do we do um with an area after a wildfire has burned uh through it or conversely what happens if a wildfire burns um upstream if you will from a development. And the reason we think about that is um you may have seen or heard some communities in California dealing with um mud flows right post wildfire. And so um even if a community isn't necessarily impacted by the flames um they can be impacted by landslides or landslide like situations following a wildfire. So taking a good hard look at that and making sure that you know we have a plan um when it comes to when it comes to those debris flow uh flow zones. The next is a carryover too. So this is addresses um s and tsunami modeling in lakesamish. And so if you're unfamiliar with a s it's essentially like a bathtub effect of like water moving back and forth. And so um this is a uh this is a strategy to take a harder look at that. It's kind of nested. It's part of earthquake as well too. That's the main instigation instigator um if you will for siches. Um and so we actually historically have engaged UDub trying to study this um as a potential project. There was some initial interest but um we're we're still going to keep we're still going to attempt to study that but it's a little bit in lurch. Enhancing air quality and chemical detection near vulnerable populations. This is our uh hazardous materials release. um mitigation strategy. So deploying detection capabilities near high-risisk corridors and vulnerable populations to enable faster response to hazardous area releases. Um we have transportation corridors, a major one I90 that runs through our community. Um there is a lot of hazardous materials that cross through a Siqua every day. Not to mention we have pipelines and facilities that also house a considerable size of um hazardous materials uh just on the dayto-day. Deputy Council President Martz. >> So, as you're discussing all these things, >> um, these are all things that you could do if we wanted to fund them. >> Correct. >> Right. So, this is all these are all you're you're showing us the menu and you're saying if you want the sea bass, here's how we would prepare the sea bass. Yes. If you want the lobster, here's how we would present prepare the lobster. None of this is necessarily things that you are going to do otherwise. >> Correct. Yeah. And so how do we how do we decide? They all have price tags associated with them and as you've mentioned earlier some of them have higher probability times severity and others have lower probability time severity. You know there was a point in this city where one of your predecessors thought a seash wave um was a was a serious risk because we have the ground fault uh that runs into the city which is capable of producing seash waves. Um clearly you know in the score that has been given in this sewaves are not considered near the top of our risk setup. So how do we how does this work? Like it seems like at some point we have to get >> the menu at some point the waiter asks us what we want to order, right? And we say I want the sea bass and I want the lobster and I want um the uh Caesar salad but only if it comes with the anchovies, right? And so when do we when and how do we do that? Yeah, I I love that analogy. Thank you for that. That really I wish I had said that. Thank you. But um that is so I would say this is maybe your opportunity to hear a little bit more about the menu items if you will under this analogy, right? Um but also uh I would say the budget is a big opportunity to order, right? But two, you know, if directed like I'm hearing some priorities already emerge, right? we um we have some capacity to chase some of these mitigation strategies with things like grant funding, right? And so I am constantly on the lookout for for grant funds and apply frequently um for them, right? I think we've done three three grant applications for a new generator at city hall, right? We've mentioned some of the uh other senior center improvements, these seismic studies, right? So even outside of funding, right? if if you order right uh wildfire risk reduction I I'm going to listen to that I'm going to hear that right and say okay when I'm seeing these grant opportunities you know that's that's the project I'm going to put forward we in theory we could put all these forward in grant rounds right we could we could submit every project that we have in hazard mitigation plan we don't have capacity for that you know in emergency management right with our current with our current um staffing and just resources but you know Um that's an option right we can we can we can develop um whatever one of these we would like to like to try to get right um and and order that if you will so um I should say too priorities can change as well right so this plan is considered a living document right so if there is new mitigation strategies new efforts new critical vulnerabilities that make themsel um aware to us you know like we can change and shift our our priorities in that. So this is one opportunity but um really you know there's many too also I welcome any any feedback or any um direction really at the course of the life of this plan. So, >> so Jared, to build on the lovely analogy, um it sounds like this annex says we are required to put together a menu >> of all of the potential hazards and how we would mitigate them, but it will be up to city council if we adopt this and then at a later date to encourage its inclusion in the CIP to budget for spending on those items and to provide our feedback on what are the most important ones for going after things like grants that will help put those items on our plate. >> Yes. >> Continue. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. >> Yeah. Yeah. And I should say too, right, um this this is kind of a jumping off point if you will too for these projects, right? Like for example, if we do get a grant or um do get funding for one of these projects, you know, part of our regular internal process is to come forward, right, to council to talk about that project, you know, and so um this isn't like uh to your point, Council Member Mart, right, if you if you want the anchovies, right, there will be other opportunities to provide feedback and more direction on each of these individual projects um just through our regular uh mechanisms that we have within the All right. Um, so the next one is, uh, upgrading HVAC and air filtration and resilience hubs. And, um, this is about really improving indoor air quality. So, MV 13 air filtration is the really the level that you want to filter wildfire smoke that makes um, air clean, if you will, that uh, vulnerable populations or even just regular individuals can feel comfortable breathing that air. Uh today right now we actually don't have a facility that has that level of air filtration. Um we're working towards that hopefully on the community center but really you know expanding that level of options for our community members right is um something that we would like to do specifically at our resilience hubs being community facing uh uh locations. Um all right last four. So um create public facing dam failure evacuation and warning materials. So, um, as I mentioned, um, many of our community members may be surprised to hear that we have, uh, dams, if you will, um, within Isiqua that have, uh, that are a risk, right? And so, it's a hazard that we just typically don't think about, talk about, or really, um, socialize, um, that broadly. And so this strategy really speaks to making sure that we have evacuation maps that residents know that they live in these damundation zones and then provide some guidance on what they can do to better prepare themselves. Next is developing and exercising a cyber incident response annex. So this is creating and regularly testing um a response plan to protect our critical infrastructure and systems and maintain um and maintain just government continuity during these attacks. I should say this is really just a piece of our cyber um incident like response uh catalog, right? There's much more work that goes into this than just this one strategy, but that's something that we picked out as a potential uh area that we could strengthen in in coordination with our regular cyber uh incident plans. >> Yeah, I was just going to ask on that. Council member Nichols had um questions about that. sounds like a plan to respond, but we also have other things that we do uh that are preventing and things like that obviously. So, >> yes. Yeah. And if um council member Nichols or council would like more information about you know just how we we are prepared for cyber um attacks. Yeah, we're happy to share uh more information. >> Thank you. >> Great. Um next is planning for prolonged regional transportation and supply chain disruptions. So, this is a plan that really speaks to our need to be uh self-sufficient following a major disruption of transportation corridors. Um, you know, it seems somewhat far-fetched sometimes, but I mean, you take the December flooding and it was quite interesting to see, right, we lost eastbound 90, SR 900 and um and then Isqua Hobart, right? All had disruptions on them. And so it was quite uh revoly in one moment in the EOC where in the emergency operations center where we're like wow our our really our only option is to go west you know from the city. And so uh this strategy speaks to just making sure that we're prepared that we have a good list of capabilities local like know our local vendors and contractors have good uh relationships with them and implement some agreements hopefully even with them. And then lastly uh training for city staff on suspicious activity reporting. Right. So, this is making sure this is speaking to our terrorism um hazard, but uh providing city staff with training to recognize and appropriately report suspicious activity to enhance that early threat detection and prevention. Um so, those are our mitigation strategies as they exist. Now, as I mentioned, um this is a living document. New mitigation strategies may be added at any point in the lifetime of the mitigation plan. Um and uh this, like I said, these are jumping off points, right? like if we start to pursue these strategies more in depth, we can alter them, we can change them and really uh make sure that they meet the needs of the city. So um the options that we have today are one to adopt the the annex and so that maintains our grant eligibility for programs like the building resilient infrastructure and communities grant flood mitigation assistance and hazard mitigation grant program funding which is that post- disaster funding pool. Um it also helps align our mitigation um plans with climate infrastructure planning and of course our budget as we've mentioned. Um the second option is that we do not adopt the plan. Um we lose our eligibility for those uh FEMA hazard mitigation dollars but um you know that certainly is is an an option as well. So, our proposal and recommendation is that we do um adopt our hazard mitigation plan um and that it goes to the full city council. So, uh real briefly timing next steps. So, we're here today at the committee review. Uh we anticipate or hopeful for full council adoption this March. Um after that full council adoption, we'll submit our plan to FEMA. Um they may provide feedback. they likely will not at this uh juncture. Um and then after uh plan approval, that gives us the eligibility to apply for those grants to seek that funding. Um, and then finally, once our plan is approved, we're going to um further engage with the community and making sure that the the plan is public, but also showcase and bring the community in in these hazard mitigation efforts that we do choose to prioritize and make sure that they uh stay involved in mitigation and and also just show off some of the work that we are doing in the city, right? And and making sure that people see the work um that that this uh that we are doing to make us more resilient. So with that, that brings us back to the direction needed. So, uh, do you recommend any changes or adoption um, to our hazard mitigation plan as it stands? And I do have those questions from Council Member Nichols, too, that we can address maybe um, at the end after you're >> Yeah, I've got those listed as well. So, um, all of that. Um, Deputy Council President Martz, do you want to start with any feedback on the hazard mitigation plan annex? Um well, if I understand it right, I think it all comes back to uh the slide that you showed with the risks uh results from staff hazard and risk assessment. Um and I think that as a policy matter, can you go back to that slide? Yes. Just so that we can >> refresh our memories on it. There we go. So really the question is how far down do you want to go on that list? Mhm. >> Um, you know, if we were, uh, you know, exceedingly wealthy and had people sitting around with nothing to do, you would do all of them, right? Um, and, uh, so I don't have any, I don't have any questions. We're sort of, um, are we this at the point where we're just >> Yeah. either feedback or you're good with any adoption? >> Yeah, my my feedback is that we should get going on both the earthquake and the wildfire ones. I think those two are I mean extreme weather we already I think have plans for those. Um health incidents and cyber incidents are hard to predict and we don't have knock on wood god forbid um uh a serious volcano risk right around here. So wildfire and earthquake are really just a whole different class right for folks who don't know we have a surface fault that runs from Banebridge Island uh underneath basically I90 all the way into Isiqua. it's capable of producing greater than 1g uh earthquake events and um uh we absolutely need to have plans for things like that. Um subduction fault events are um a regional problem with regional solutions. >> Um and then wildfire as as we've discussed uh you know we are uh have um quite a bit of risk associated with wildfires during the dry season when the fuel loads go up. So, I personally would like to see us getting going on both of those. I'd like to see, you know, if it's if it requires subsequent funding by the council. Um, do it. I mean, you know, bring it before the council, let the seven decide. Um, and then, uh, and then execute on it with timelines. I I I think that both of these things are absolutely critical. I really appreciate you putting this together. This is the most comprehensive conversation about risks in the city that I've seen in 17 years. Um, but now it's and speaking as one of seven, like let's get going on these two risks that are that are just qualitatively different than all the other risks. But I'm interested to know what my fellow committee members think. >> Yeah. So, I've got my feedback. I also have Council Member Nichols feedback. So, excuse me for going long, but I'm a community emergency response team member. So, emergency management is kind of my thing. Um, first of all, I think this is a fantastic report. Um, I love to see not only that we have a good risk assessment and calculation, um, but that we also got community feedback and that we are looking at specific hazard mitigations, um, and things that we can do in each of these areas. it's a lot more difficult to just look at it and say prevent wildfire versus we recognize that there are specific hazards that we can mitigate in that area that will make us a safer community. So I like that approach of this report. Um, I think from my perspective, um, I might want to think a little bit more about the impact and exposure of flooding in our community. While it only we only experience flooding in the valley floor areas as much. Um, I think that doesn't take into account the idea that most of our community either uses resources or services or schools or other things in those areas. >> And so that is it it discounts the fact that those areas are used by the entire community even if their personal property isn't impacted by it. Um, and we've seen quite a bit of flooding that has had a full citywide impact even if it only has exposure in those areas. So, I might I might have personally calculated that a little bit differently that way. Um, when we are thinking about investments and use of city funds, I really want to be careful to focus on projects that have a large scale impact. And I think a confluence park flood storage is a really good example of that rather than things that are necessarily related to individual properties such as mitigation for repetitive loss flooding properties. That being said, if we combine it with then taking that and making the river creek a safer place overall, I think that balances out. Um similarly I would be hesitant to invest city funds in things that were new planning areas like the lake seamish s and tsunami modeling um because we already have a lot of planning and understanding of many of these higher >> risk areas. And so that would be my preference there. uh the critical infrastructure seismic risk. I think this is a really great um addition and it seems to be an area where we can not only make investments but also code changes about what needs to be made as a requirement for future infrastructure. And so that would be one that I would want to maybe follow two different paths on. One a budgetary one a um code and policy. Um, when I'm thinking about the report, one of the things I had a hard time understanding was how we're handling all of our 2020 uncompleted items. >> Mhm. >> Um, do those continue into our 2025 plan? How do they rank in priority compared to the list? You know, >> how is that handled? So when we're looking about the report, I would say I want to see the 2025 mitigation strategies maybe earlier in the report. Better explain what happens to the 2020 strategies. Um I would love to see the list of strategies ranked from high to low >> or alphabetical. Right now I couldn't tell why something was in a certain order. Um, and then on each individual mitigation page, I would really like to be able to see the priority, okay? >> High, medium, or low. Um, be so that I didn't have to scroll all the way back up to that list to understand how it, um, fits in. >> And then my final piece of feedback is on the topic of how do we make this actionable? So, I'm glad to hear you've already mentioned the CIP. That was um my th first thought for that 2-year and 5-year objectives. Um I'm wondering if there is an idea of having emergency management called out as a separate category much like parks and transportation are or if the idea would be to fit it into categories. I know we already have on our CIP, we recently did um the capital improvement project plan. We already did um something that gives us what is it the selection criteria and so all of these projects would fit very well in the life and safety um category. So I can understand how they're going to be scored but I would be interested to be able to call out like hey emergency management is this area that isn't just about parks or transportation. It's really kind of its own category. >> Um, let me see if there was anything else in those notes. Yeah. And then toward that idea, could the hazard calculations be used, the risk calculations in our CIP data? Um, because I think that would be a really useful way of showing how important this project is. All of these are going to score very well from a life and safety aspect, but earthquake and wildfire should have some sense of more important than necessarily terrorism or landslide projects. >> So that's my feedback. I can go on to council member Nichols or if you have any thoughts there. >> Yeah, I guess um the first thing I'll address is kind of the old mitigation strategies, right? And so, um, truthfully, the previous iteration of this plan was mostly written in a from a public works perspective. And so, many of the strategies, um, were kind of it was mostly incorporating work that public works was already doing, you know, and using it as a lake to justify uh, grant applications. That probably the one caveat to that is maybe uh, the C theert um, strategy that's pulled from from there. But again, you know, emergency management used to be in public works. So, in some in some extent too, um I would say we're we are funding CERT already like we're well supporting that. I would don't I um don't know what more we would call out in a specific strategy other than like all the other work that we're doing with C existingly. So I think you know for the old strategies you know some of them we did carry over right like the energy resilience and some of these add-ons actually that we tacked on to the plan in like just the last couple years uh like the wildfire the energy resilience and um and some of those we did tack on and so some of them got continued but um the other ones the older ones I'm kind of personally okay letting them expire and if there is maybe elements that we do want to pull out right like we can but you know Um, Council Member um, Walsh, I think it's a good point of like we need to have some accounting of the work that we do to or almost like a a record if you will, right? To cuz I don't want to lose some of the wins that we have, right, when we just move to the next plan and, you know, and and not highlight some of the good work that we've done. So, um, maybe there's a potential way that we could still incorporate them too in that sense. How does that sound? >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Let me go on to Council Member Nichols. Um, so he brought up some of the same things that Deputy Council President, uh, Martz did about, hey, there's no cost estimates. This isn't, you know, a budget. Um, and so he said it would be really useful to see at least rough cost tiers um, before this is brought before full council or a commitment to deliver them shortly after adoption. And I think, you know, I would be interested to know how do you think that works with this plan versus accomplishing that through another method like the CIP. >> Yeah. And so, um, we talked internally about a potential approach. So, we can incorporate cost estimates if you will, you kind of using like a scale of like $1 sign through, right? If to kind of at least give a sense of how much these projects might cost, right? and and that te's up our ability, right, when we do go to like CIP, right? We can really hammer down and hone in on what those actual costs will be, but it still incorporates that, you know, bird's eye view of of what some of these costs are. And and you know, initially we actually did have we were thinking about cost estimates, but it got kind of tricky with some of the ones like even the seismic assessments for critical infrastructure, right? because it's like we may find that we're in pretty good shape for, you know, a good amount of the water towers or we may find that, you know, oh my word, you know, we need to have multi-million dollar projects. And so there's I think staff were kind of struggling honestly with that that cost estimate part became a little bit of a stumbling block. But what we can commit to though is incorporating I think that that range if you will um or like that symbol symbology a little bit to just give us a sense of how much things will cost and then in when we do go to CIP or grant applications of course we'll like drill down into a real hard number. Does does that sound sufficient? >> Yeah, deputy council president. >> What I I I worry about timelines when you start talking about CIP grant applications. I worry that we're going to build a plan to build a plan to build a plan and that when my term is up in 3.8 years, we still won't be done with these, >> right? >> Um so, uh you know, as an administration um that has an emergency management person, um these these both of these things are desperately needed. So, um, you know, it would be weird to say, okay, well, here's the t-shirt size on these, right? Like wildfire is a medium and earthquake is a large and uh that'll be some monies at some point in the future. you know, I mean, CIP can take a very long time and then the actual work itself takes time and then any uh work that we decide to do as a result of those plans takes time and again I come back to my 3 point eight years and um wanting to have this resolved long before my next this current term is up. So that that's my concern in in in this whole conversation is >> um >> you know the sense of urgency of of getting going on something like this on these two. I think you've correctly identified these two as really being a different level of risk than other um emergency situations that we could possibly have. So how do we how do we get it going? how how do we get the scoping activity um the decision and then the execution in a reasonable amount of time >> um and what is a reasonable amount of time right I I don't think you're I don't think all this is leading you to saying yep and I'll have all this stuff done by the end of the year like that's not what I'm hearing at all >> right yeah and I think that's um that's a challenge that we have right but like I said this is in some sense you know a third of our work plan in emergency management right so this is this is what we're going to working on you know and for so that's my time it's other staff members time it's not just me right there's other departments too so >> I I thought it is if we move forward with it >> oh yes if we if we move forward with it yes >> assuming we move forward >> yes should yes thank you >> yeah and I think I will clarify this kind of gets glombmed alto together in this presentation but the first half is really about this hazard um and mitigation plan and then the second half is and what else should we be doing with emergency management? Where should our focus be? And so I'm hearing very clearly we have two very high priorities. And so I definitely want to drill down when we get into that on being like, okay, what's next? >> Yeah. >> Because it isn't just taking them into the CIP. No. >> Um so okay, um let me just continue through Council Member Nichols. Um he talked about performance measures. So each strategy includes metrics but none have baselines, targets or reporting cadence. Um and he references that hey some of the 2020 stuff didn't get completed. Um so is there a sense with other plans we have kind of created some of those metrics or targets. Is there a sense in here of what we want to accomplish? Not just here's a hazard hazard and here's a mitigation strategy. >> Yeah. What what I would say is that you know these strategies truly are the the jumping off part point, right? Um for us as a city um so as we embark in like in these individual strategies more seriously, right? Like all those kind of classic project management, you know, tools, measures, they they will be applied, you know, to to these efforts. um this plan is is um mostly guiding if you will, right? And a little less tactical is the way that my brain thinks of it. So um yes, so all so those will be um part of our part of our strategies if we choose to move forward with them. >> Okay. Um he also mentioned community engagement. He said,40 touch points is really impressive, but there was no sense of how many of those were Isiqua residents. Um, and so he also mentioned he didn't see any evidence of outreach to renters, non-English speakers, or residents in map flood zones, or the wildland urban interface um, populations most affected by the hazards. So, it would be good to know if there was any targeted outreach. >> Yeah, I thought those were really, really good points to bring up and honestly, I think it's opportunities to grow in our community uh, engagement. And um what I would say too is that hopefully you know this is this is not the end of our hazard mitigation right this is just the beginning if you will and so whichever you know what what our strategies when we start to implement them you know we're going to look for that community feedback we're going to look for that more targeted community engagement and so um I love that I loved highlighting those points and I think it's a really good thing that we can carry forward with us into the future. >> Great. And then his last piece was just noticing that the CRS rating uh discrepancy on different pages. So >> it was a good catch. Yes, we we are a community five and working towards a CRS rating five working towards four. >> Fantastic. So with that, I think um generally I have heard both from council member Nichols in his um comments but also between the two of us general support for this annex plan for the hazard mitigation plan and um so is there any other feedback you need from us? A sense of when it's going to come back to council and whether or not we want to put it on consent or regular business? Thank you. >> Well, I I just want to foot stomp this again. You know, there's a I'm a movie guy. There's a scene in the social network where uh he says, "If you had invented Facebook, you would have invented Facebook, right? We will have a wildfire and earthquake plan in place when we have a wildfire and earthquake plan in place." Right? And so I want to have a wildfire and earthquake plan in place. Um we to do that we have to begin, right? Yeah, >> we have to accept the annex and we have to say we want to see the t-shirting of the efforts. >> I want a wildfire and earthquake plan in place as soon as is reasonable. >> Yeah. >> So that's, you know, whatever that looks like. Um, I just worry that again it's we're building a plan to make a plan to have a plan and uh, you know, this this is really this is super clear guidance why wildfire and earthquake plans um, need to be the core of our response. So, um, I just wanted to foot stomp that. Yeah, >> foot stomp away. Absolutely. still need to uh approve the annex so that we can qualify for grants and because we kind of just need to do it. Um and so are we good to adopt this and do you have a sense of consent or regular business? >> I am absolutely excited about adopting this. In terms of it coming back on consent or regular, I guess I would ask the administration if they have a preference. I think that this report was clear enough that I I would be comfortable as a junior member of this committee um to tell the other uh four council members who weren't part of this process that um the the the uh the committee uh video makes it very clear why we want to move forward with this and not having it be regular. But if the administration comes back and said no, we're super excited about having this on regular business that >> Okay. So, it sounds like we are in support of this coming to full council and comfortable with it being on consent unless the administration has any reason not to. We always like to highlight the great work of our emergency management team, but it sounds like we've got the rest of the presentation to talk about all of the other things that we want to foot stomp and deliver the plans that council is going to make demands on. So take it away. >> That's a perfect Yeah. tea up. So um yeah, so the second part of the presentation is to yeah give feedback on really our broader emergency management program. Right. We've we've kind of heard that, you know, from the mayor but also from the council retreat that emergency preparedness efforts, you know, are a priority and something that we should think about. And so I just want to share um with this committee a little bit about what's on the current work plan, some of the things we're thinking about, and then really opportunities that I see as um growth areas to really bring our emergency management program to the to the next level, if you will. So a little bit of background. So things are changing in emergency management. One, disasters are happening more frequently, right? right on this bar graph that you see here on the left side of your screen, right? You can see this increase in climate driven hazards um where there's been declared disasters in the last 5 years and you'll see severe storm, flood, and fire are really the three captured there, but also all of their declarations. And so those are typically the nonclimate driven ones. But um you'll notice that bar graph is growing. And you know, anecdotally, right, I will even say from my almost three years here, right, we've had some pretty serious um incidents. And so um that's just following the trend um for the state. Um two the background context is FEMA is also changing uh very drastically. So there has been huge reductions to uh disaster uh response staff to um preparedness efforts and really uh funding their system as a whole is is changing. And so what the uh federal government is asking is that local jurisdictions shoulder more of uh emergency management and what was typically FEMA's role. Um local jurisdictions are asked to to take bigger parts of that. And so um some of these u some of these things that we've enjoyed from FEMA being um having leadership in in emergency management are starting to wayne. And so, um, one of the best or one of the most recent examples that hit home for us, right, is the bomb cyclone. You know, that was a disaster that was large enough that would have qualified us for public assistance funding in uh, previous understandings of what our of what our thresholds were, but uh, no longer, right? That that bar has moved to about to be six times higher than what it was, you know, um, just a couple years ago. And so all that to say is, you know, the need for us to be prepared for emergencies, effective in our response to, you know, um, pursue these risk reduction activities, I think is it's it's higher, right, than than what it was even a couple years ago, just because the landscape has changed, uh, so drastically in a short period of time. Um, so we've talked about, you know, risk reduction and in depth, right? But there's the two other pillars, emergency response and community preparedness that we'll take a little bit of a diver deep dive into. Um now, so here's what's really on the work plan this year, if you will, for uh emergency management. And so this is specifically uh talking about emergency response, which is protecting life, property, and environment during and after emergencies large and small. So uh we are updating our comprehensive emergency management plan uh this year. that is our foundational document that describes um how we respond to disasters and emergencies within Isiqua. That is um it outlines duties, responsibilities, operations um really uh our our our guiding document for emergencies. So that's getting updated this year. Um this summer we have some large events that are happening here regionally. So we're getting ready for them. they are chiefly uh the 250th anniversary of the US and then also FIFA World Cup, right? So um they happen to coincide at the same time. So two large events that um you know we want to make sure that our community and our visitors and um and everyone really is just has a safe and um and good time at those events. Next is resilience hub expansion. Um, as I've mentioned before, we're trying to get a resilience hub in every neighborhood within Isiqua, right? So, that looks like working with uh community partners, organizations, and to really not only identify new locations, but strengthen them, make them more resilient, and uh support them so they can so we can count on them when disaster does strike. And then lastly, um I'm excited to to come back before council and do some uh emergency management training and exercise with you all at some point, right? Kind of going over uh what your role is in emergency, some of the powers that you have and really getting an opportunity to exercise uh those and and have a um and yeah have some after action items taken from them. Next is community preparedness. So this is um about informing and readying the community for disasters. So our really our chief um way that we go about this is serve our community emergency response team of which we have volunteers that go through a course that equips them with skills that can uh not only serve them their families but also their neighbors and you know um it's in community preparedness but we also use them in emergency response as well. You know supported us in the bomb cyclone and in flooding alike. Um doing everything from filling sandbags to handing out flyers and flood cleanup kits. So they they they truly do a lot for our community. Um of which our C program has grown um immensely. You know, we we offer five courses now every year um as opposed to the two that we've uh traditionally offered. Um our volunteer numbers are almost up to 400 um for cert. And so it's quite it's quite the cadre and uh we have a lot of great people who are fired up and engaged uh with it volunteers speaking that really help drive that. So, um, that's not all just emergency the emergency manager, right? I my hats off to these community members who really have championed this effort. Next is wildfire preparedness, right? So, we've done the wildfire evacuation time estimate. Um, we still want to socialize those results more broadly, make sure people understand evacuation, can get prepared. Um, ready, set, go is a countywide program. Um, it was actually used in the flooding, too, to for evacuation levels. Um, but we want to make sure people are ready for wildfires. So, we're talking about doing more wildfire trivia nights like that we did last year. Uh screening of more wildfire documentaries and um really updating also our online resources where people can learn about these things. Um including a GIS map that shows neighborhood by neighborhood um what your evacuation routes are and um what you should consider. So um those are all efforts that were that are underway for community preparness specifically for wildfire. And then lastly, we want to invest in more just general uh trainings and engagements for the community, right? Cert is a big commitment for some individuals, right? But we want to make sure that we have uh smaller, more frequent touch points with the community um that can help uh educate and make them aware of our of our many hazards. And so, uh, we're we're looking for we're kind of revamping, if you will, some of those efforts, getting away from like the traditional just seminar style, but going to places where people already are, right? Like wildfire trivia is a good example of that. Showing up where people already hang out and doing, uh, education kind of that way. So, um, that's all part of community preparedness this year. And then, of course, >> one second before we go, Deputy Council President Mart. So, I just I I want to make sure I know wildfire prepared there's a lot in wildfire preparedness. Um I I want to make sure that it's not like, hey, we have some pamphlets you can read about how to, you know, cut brush away from the base of your house. Like I just I just want to walk you through a scenario, right? A house fire on the south side of Squawk Mountain during a high fuel load day leads to a wildfire that starts that moves north coming up over the top of Squawk Mountain, right? >> The city needs to have a plan. Obviously, Epher is, you know, first line of response on something like that, but the city, you know, IPD, uh, public works, you know, the city has to have a plan in place for an event like that, right? We don't have anything like that currently, right? >> Um, so that's what I think of when I think of wildfire preparedness. I mean there is also the cutting brush away from the base of your home, but you know part of our challenge is that Squawk Mountain is steep and the things that you can do in Wan that reduce the risk of a wildfire to your home um we just can't do here. Right. >> Right. Um so it's about evacuating people. It's about you know critical minutes um you know during an event like that. Mhm. >> So that's, you know, that's got to be part of our wildfire preparedness. >> Yeah. And thank you for highlighting that. That's it'll actually be called out as a specific annex to our comprehensive emergency management plan, too, is is evacuation to really hammer out those rules and responsibilities. We've um one change that we've had from even last wildfire season is we have a uh uh a pre-w wildfire checklist, if you will. So whenever we have those uh red flag days or critical fire weather, we actually get together department by department in a coordination call and you know bring up all the things to consider, right? Like do we have keys for the right gates to open up these emergency access roads, right? Like what's our plan for alert notification? So yeah, thank you for highlighting that. you know, there's there's um room to grow there and and I I really expect the CMP, the comprehensive emergency management plan, we're going to hammer out a really all those smaller details, but we're taking we're taking steps on that, too. So, but thank you for highlighting that. >> All right. Thanks. >> Yeah. Okay. And risk reduction, um we we just took a deep dive into this, so I'm just going to brush over this quickly, right? But of course, our hazard mitigation plan is um nearing nearing uh officially being completed. The seismic assessments I've mentioned on some of our city buildings. And then of course the infrastructure improvements at resilience hubs being the solar and storage um backup and um air filtration upgrades at the community center. Whoops. Okay. So with that um with each three categories, here are the three um major ways that I could see us growing our emergency management program. Right. So um expanding our incident command system and emergency operations center training. Um this is really speaking to making sure that we have as many people in the city trained up on how to work in an EOC and uh emergency environment. And this really addresses that that need that FEMA is pulling back, right, from this model where they're coming in, right, with a big team of 80 people to come support local jurisdictions, you know, in a big disaster. You know, that's that's not going to happen anymore, right? And so we need to make sure that from top to bottom, our staff feel confident working in that EOC and have a good handle and make sure that, you know, we don't get overwhelmed by by a large incident. And so, um, that's >> Can I ask about the the FEMA piece for a second? Yeah. Because my understanding is that one of the things that's occurring right now is FEMA is moving more to a block grant type situation, right? If you look at the total emergency fund expected distribution in 2026, it's a little bit less than 20, it's less than 2025, but it's about the same as 2024. But my understanding is what really changes is that they're trying to move again towards a block grant type system which would cause the states to have to look at their own for instance insurance policies and you know instead of >> I mean I'm not going to carry water for the you know the way the feds are doing things but there is a >> you know they're still spending FEMA is still spending a lot of money but that it's going to go out as block grants. Is that our understanding as well? And if so, should we be asking more of Olympia? Right. >> Yeah. Oh, sorry. Yeah. Yeah. I think that is that if that is the way that they roll things out, I think that is a very good next step is to make sure that olymp that that trickles down, if you will, to local jurisdictions. There's some fear, right, that um Washington State Emergency Management uh division has been uh really underfunded for for a long time. And there's this sense that um or I should say a little bit of concern in local like jurisdictions that you know the state will will mostly keep those keep those funds right and that it won't really um come come down the way that the feds are envisioning. And so I think that is an advocacy opportunity. You know um there is still so much that is up in the air when it comes to FEMA, right? like they were supposed to um they have convened a council over the last year that was uh to make recommendations about how FEMA can change, right? Uh that report was due in December, but um it's gotten delayed till to March of this year. So, we're kind of holding our breath waiting to see until March to see what actually um comes to fruition with FEMA. But we do know, right, that like staff we do know staff reductions are happening at FEMA. That's for something that's for certain, right? But the actual um future of what yeah those block grants look like or how that might um that money might be repurposed to local jurisdictions I think is what we're all kind of holding our breath for. So yeah, thank you for flagging that, Council Member Mertz. >> I I just know that being glass half full, the idea here is I'm going to pick on another state, right? Florida's needed insurance reform, hurricane insurance reform for decades, and they haven't had to do it because they've papered over the problem with FEMA money every time a hurricane comes through. Right. So, again, playing glass half full um and giving the benefit of the doubt. You know, the hope is that with this the the grant, you know, going to block grants, it'll cause states then to have an incentive to fix their houses, you know, so to speak, with insurance and and whatnot. So, it just seems like >> tracking that and seeing how that impacts our legislative agenda and making sure, you know, there's very few cities that have the the kind of uh both both this earthquake and the wildfire risk, right? >> There there aren't many cities in Washington state that have our risk uh level. >> So, making sure that the state does the things that they need to do to put their house in order for when the time comes. You know, it's a shame if we can't count on FEMA the way we used to count on FEMA. But if that means we need to count on the state and ask the state to step up more, then we need to count on the state and ask them to step up more. >> That's a that's a great um option I think opportunity. So yeah, thanks thanks for sharing that. Um so the next area for growth is really after action item followup from from the flooding and from the bomb cyclone that we that we've recently had. you know, we have a lot of items that we could that we've learned that we could grow in, right? But we um just admittedly don't always have all the all the time and all the staff capability to chase down and pull all those, you know, threads and make sure that, you know, we're fully implementing our lessons learned. So, that's an area for growth really deepening EOC emergency operations center subject matter expert bench strength, right? Like, so as mentioned, you know, I'm a division of one, right? And I'm I'm the full-time nerd, you know, for for emergency management, right? And so while we have people who are highly capable of operating the EOCC that are not me, right? Um having another person too, right? That really has the time to invest um to to really understand these systems, the intricacies, um I think is something that would be a boon to the city, if you will. expanding interjurisdictional mutual aid. So, um we can lean on other jurisdictions and and their emergency management staff as well um to as a way to make ourselves more resilient, right? We have we have neighbors and as council member Martz mentioned, you know, has um we have a lot of risks and sometimes a lot of things happen in Isqua that are not happening in other jurisdictions, right? And so what we can do, you know, with with more resources is actually train up other jurisdiction staff on h how to operate in our EOC um within our structure. Other jurisdictions do it. Kirkland's a good example. They invite all like kind of neighboring emergency managers once a year to come and learn exactly just the I mean it's all instant command system, but learn the nuances of their of their EOC. And um that's something right I see as an opportunity for us too. um in terms of community preparedness. So CERT are some of our you know real community champions if you will of commu of uh preparedness. So uh but they're volunteers and we want to make sure that they're engaged and we want to make sure that they're passionate and continue to be those um those voices in our communities really sharing sharing about uh disasters and how to get more prepared. So we want to keep them engaged with monthly engagements. So that's bringing in, you know, PSSE to do downwire training. That's, you know, bringing in the speaker who's gone through a wildfire in Eastern Washington to share some of their high highlights, right? So offering those things to our CE uh members uh will only I think serve us to kind of strengthen that that advocate that we have in the community. Neighborhood level education campaigns, right? Like each uh Isqua is interesting in the sense where each neighborhood has a very unique risk profile, if you will, right? So wildfire is a really big deal in the highlands, squawk talis, right? But flooding, you know, it's a it's a it has a higher impact down here in the valley, right? So kind of tailoring that message, bringing that to a neighborhood level, right? Um I think would be a really good way that we could make our community preparedness uh efforts just a little bit more engaging, right, for residents and really bring it to home. Um increased offerings of citywide trainings engagement. So I've mentioned this a little bit too but just increase the frequency right that we have these uh these trainings. um in terms of risk reduction. So uh mitigation strategy implementation you'll you'll notice that there's a lot of uh mitigation strategies that are assigned to me in the mitigation plan right but um as mentioned you know it is it's mostly it is me who mostly works on on many of those and so having um having more help implementing those and then really grant writing right grants um many of those applications are uh quite lengthy technical ownorous and you know sometimes you don't always get them right so there's there's not that return, but there's there's more grants out there than we have the resources to apply for. And so, you know, that's another potential area that like um future support could help us with, right? We could actually have someone um helping write more grant applications for seismic infrastructure retrofits, right? For wildfire, uh you know, um evacuation route studies, things like that. you know, try to take advantage of those big pots of money, you know, that are that are actually out there. So, um, those are some of the areas that I see, right, as potential areas for growth, but I would love to hear, um, the committee's thoughts on on just, uh, the emergency management program, some of the areas for growth, and really where where we're going now. So, >> Deputy Council President Smarts, do you want to do any more foot stomping? I don't know about footsteping but um uh because it's a topic we haven't been discussed yet this evening but uh have is part of emergency management um hardening of our systems against uh uh disaster um I'm I'm thinking here a little bit about water and and uh uh earthquakes but more specifically power systems right my understanding is we have four separate power systems in the city and basically anytime anybody looks sideways at us, Squawk Mountain loses power, right? Because ours comes over the mountain mountains from from the east side. So, um have we looked at how um you know, we have had over the last 20 years a number of multi-day situations where squawk has lost power for three, four, five, six days. Once you get to like six days plus, you know, food storage is a big issue and and and whatnot. So I I don't see hardening of uh of utilities in this list. >> Yeah. You know, and that's where we have opportunity to partner with PSSE on, you know, being the the main provider. And so I think our energy resilience strategy does call out working with them more and, you know, really advocating and and seeing if there's opportunities to collaborate, right? and and some of those grants, you know, the collaboration between private and public uh entities are uh they help you, right? And so really engaging PSSE and saying like, hey, you know, if you if you are willing to, right, we can chase this this money together. So that's certainly an area where we can um where we can look into uh more and partner with PSSE. >> Yeah, I think that would be I think that would be important. I think there's been a long conversation about in general the quality frankly of the power in some parts of the city but this whole system of having four completely separate it's it's great if those four systems um backs stop each other but they don't right >> right it's just you get the one that you get and if it goes out and it goes out more on squawk than it does any place else um you're just out of out of luck for a while >> so I think that would be an important addition >> to the Anything else? Otherwise, I've got a ton of notes. Um, first off, I would say I really appreciate taking this moment to sit in what are we doing for emergency management? What are those three category areas of risk reduction, preparedness, and emergency response? and what does the council and in this case the services safety and parks committee think are the important areas of feedback for you? So I would say um my priority is emergency response. Um I think it's really important to recognize that nobody can do that except for the city. Nobody is going to be able to seismically retrofit our infrastructure so that all of the residents can be insured that we can maintain ourselves in the midst of an emergency. Um the second is risk reduction. You know, there's some things that individual property owners can do, but a lot of them again are city tasks, but sometimes they're going to require additional funding. And so that's why I would say emergency response is really the bread and butter, the thing that we need to do as well as possible. And then finally, community preparedness because community members themselves can choose to do that work. Um, so when I'm looking at those three categories for emergency response, I'd like to get more information about our plans for resilience hub expansion. Um, I saw that being really important in the bomb cyclone. Um, I know there have been plans to do expansion into other neighborhoods. I'd like to get a sense of what the timeline is for that, what actions we're taking, what needs we might have in order to make that happen faster because from my perspective, that's a really important priority. Um, I also agree with your idea that the incident command center and uh the emergency operation center, I probably have some of those letters wrong. Um, training plus afteraction follow-ups are really important. I'd like to get a sense if we have the budget and the staff to support that. If not, I think that is a really high priority for me to understand how we can do that emergency response better. Um because as you said, you are one person and I know you have a baby and you're going to get sick and so having a backup in that case I feel is really important. So the the cross trainining, the after of action follow-ups and the sense of do we have the staff um needed there is important um for risk reduction, you know, with the hazard mitigation plan. We talked a little bit about this um as far as could this be a separate part of our CIP to bring awareness to the investments needed and the opportunities. But I'd also like to think about our investments there in the same way that we do the pavement management and the concrete management plan in that we have a sense of what are the needs >> and what investments do we need to do on an annual basis >> to maintain. So we not only have a sense of what our entire needs are, but also what's our target >> for each of the years. And that helps us then look at and go, oh, we had a really rough year and we reduced some of our spending in emergency management, so we need to catch up there >> rather than just seeing these as necessarily individual projects. I think this gives us a better sense of what are the budgetary needs. Are we investing at the correct level? Um, and maybe are there different investment needs within certain disaster categories? Um, that would kind of give us a higher level sense of to be fully prepared for an earthquake. >> Here's all of our needs. Here's what we've done. to be prepared for flooding, you know, and some of that is going to be in the risk reduction section, some of that is going to be in the emergency response, etc., etc. Um, and so toward that idea, I think the focus on earthquakes and wildfires is really important. I will foot stomp here and say I don't want to just see another plan for this. I think the hazard mitigation plan gives us some specific recommendations. And so I'd really like to see action on some of those so that we can say at the end of that 3.8 years that look we've moved the needle forward in these four areas and this is why you're safer. Having a plan doesn't necessarily do that. Um, now it's probably going to be important in the coordination of Isqua Police Department and East Side Fire and Rescue and our emergency operations center and things like that. Um, but gosh darn I want to say we have done things and made a difference on specific action. So that would be my focus. um in that area. And then finally, I'd like to see emergency management be a bigger part of this committee's role. I think this can be a really great way for us to push this forward and make sure that it is a focus. Um council member Nicker Nichols when um talking about the hazard mitigation plan recommended that we get an annual report on hazard mitigation metrics and progress. And so I think that could be a great way to involve the committee and make sure that we are just continually beating the drum on how important this is for resident safety, for mitigation so that we're not seeing expenses down the road, um, and for really making sure that we have the risk reduction there. So feedback, any any thoughts, questions on that or do you have what you need? You know, I think that that sounds great and I think that's a that's a great vision honestly for of how we can, you know, not just make an emergency management um you know, like shelf and just pull it down when we have an emergency, right? But make it part of the regular business that we do in the city. And so I very much thank you for that feedback and um definitely heard and I personally feel like I got really good direction um from the committee tonight on on where to go with emergency management. So thank you both. >> Great. So I don't think there's any action here. I guess I will um do a little side eye to deputy council president Martz in that this was something that leadership council leadership asked us to discuss here so that it could then kind of filter through and we could figure out maybe in our planning and our agenda setting what are some of the things that we should focus on. So, I will hope that we can get the feedback from council leadership that all of this was useful and there is an action that this is going to take in the future once you guys have digested it all. >> I don't think there's anything here that uh I I don't think there's anything here that council leadership can go chew on to go do a particular thing. I think that we have made clear um that we the annex makes sense and that we are properly sensitized to wildfire and earthquake issues. And I think that the two of us have made super clear with council member Nichols um concurrence that we want to see progress on all this. So respectfully, I don't think the ball's in the council's court. I think the ball is in the administration's court with this feedback um to figure out how and when um it wants to come back to tea up um you know uh whether there's going to be an ask directly of council from general fund or whether you want to say we want to take six months and try to pursue grants you know but I I see it as a thing that for the administration to come back based on the feedback we've provided today. Yeah, maybe I'll just ask that if you'll keep an eye on the agenda as it gets set and just, you know, think about emergency management occasionally. Uh, >> you know, I do. >> I know you do. And I'm giving you, you know, the >> as the committee chair, I will, uh, I will, uh, seek to, uh, to perform that task as part of being a leader, part of the leadership team. >> Excellent. Um, Autumn, anything that you need from us on this other than the general feedback and sense of urgency? >> No, the feedback tonight's been super helpful. Thank you. >> Okay. Excellent. Well, um, we are supposed to also initiate public comment um, in a sense of this, but there is no one in the room and no one online. >> No, we we have had a virtual caller for a while. Yes. Okay, we have a virtual caller. So, I will just note um that we would welcome public comment. If you're on the phone, press star three. If you joined by computer or smartphone, look for the hand icon or send a chat to the host. And I will just wait a moment and see if we have anybody who wants to make comments virtually online. And are we seeing anything? >> Not at this time, chair. >> Okay. Well, we always take um comments by email. So, you can always email city council isawwa.gov. And so, that is all of the pieces there. Um, final piece of business, announcements. Do my fellow committee members have any announcements to make? No. Okay. Our next committee meeting date is April 28th uh 2026. Our March 17th meeting has been cancelled and a planning, development, and environment committee meeting will be held that evening instead. And so there being no further business, the meeting is adjourned at 8:36 p.m. Thank you.