medical trial where he had to wear a face face mask good evening and welcome everyone i'm calling the november 19th regular city council meeting to order uh i'd ask those who'd like to join the council and myself in the pledge of allegiance to please stand i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america to the republic for which it stands a nation under god indivisible with liberty and justice for all first up on our agenda this evening is audience comments this is your time to address your counsel the guidelines for public participation are displayed on the overhead and please limit your comments to three minutes this evening those who signed up on the sign up sign up sheet will be called forward first and if you did not sign up i will ask for other speakers before closing this portion of the meeting and if you are here on behalf of a group please identify yourself as spokesperson for the group and if you are in support of any of our speakers this evening feel free to raise your hand so council understands how many in the audience are here to support the speaker and has anyone signed up to speak this evening i have won liz mills good evening my name is liz mills i work for crisis connections as the director of king county 2-1-1 we submitted funding requests for three programs of crisis connections king county 211 the crisis line and teen link and we want to thank you for the recommendations for crisis line and teen link and i'm here tonight to ask you to reconsider the recommendation of zero funding for king county two one one we had previously and for years been funded at five thousand dollars a year we had asked that you take another look and fund our program at this level or at some level we really very much rely on the funding from the city of issaquah and and this is a significant loss to us in 2019 united way this summer informed several of its uh grant recipients of which were one that they're changing their funding process it resulted in a loss of a hundred and five thousand dollars to king county two one one so every dollar really does count and the service we provide far exceeds our annual contracted goals with the city last year we provided services at 350 percent of our annual goal and 2018 will be similar so why did issaquah residents call 2-1-1 well most called us with urgent needs for shelter emergency shelter domestic violence finding affordable housing and food resources we also help disappoint residents with financial assistance for eviction prevention keeping the utilities on and moving costs these are just a few examples most of the callers were very low income ninety one percent at thirty ninety one percent of them at thirty percent or less of median it's very very low income forty eight percent reported someone in the household with a disability these are often people who really need a coach they need help navigating the system to be able to be successful in getting resources and we're happy to be of service with or without your funding we will serve visaqua residents we take the next call that comes we just ask that you'd help us pay for the service thank you for your consideration if there's no one else that signed up would anyone like to address counsel this evening during audience comments sure come on up to the microphone hi my name is tom huffnegle and i'm here with my wife cheryl regal we're the owners of the property that is let me see if i can point out where you see that number nine so we're kind of caught in this group now that's having our base height of our buildings lowered and so what happened was when we first came to the first meeting we just came to find out what's happening in neighborhood we didn't realize our rules were changing also so i was a little naive on that and basically it's a lot it's 36 000 square feet does everyone have a copy of this okay so i'm trying to just kind of put it in sequence quickly how long do i have i don't want to over ship overshoot my time three oh geez let's move fast so uh long story short one thing that was changed was we used to have a base heights of 48 feet and it's now been reduced to 40 feet in this new set of zoning rules and what we're asking for is to bring it back to that with issaquah exploding like it is i went to that anthology apartment buildings next to the chevy dealer there's 398 units being put in let's figure two people per unit that's 800 people that'll be needing more services intensive commercial land is so precious right now and so hard to find that we need every square inch of it also going up in the air too so we're asking for that and i think when we had the meeting last week or no at november first we had a meeting where three of the members were here they said well two of the members decided to vote just to go with the cities because they felt uh the ppc meeting had agreed to it all the owners said well the only two owners that were there was myself and my wife and mindy and her husband over there who has the lot across from us and so the only reason we kind of didn't understand why it was being changed was when we spoke to keith about he asked why do you want 48 feet at that time this is the second meeting in june on i believe it was the 26th of june and i said well possibly for apartment buildings hotels we can put on there a lot of different things maybe office building and keith was under the impression at that time that our area wasn't zoned for that so he said that's not a good reason you can't even build that high anyway because you're not zoned for it and i said oh i didn't know that long story short where i came up with i was about nine years earlier i'd been here in this building when they presented us with the new rules and said we could do all those things so i thought oh great we have access to that so we asked keith for a meeting and he uh was real helpful and he we met with him and we said keith we'd like to have that 48 feet back um because we can do all these things on the property and he said well that's true but i would prefer the 40 feet uh level and so it's just personal preference i i think he's looking at it as how it'll look in the community but uh we're in the industrial section there basically of issaquah this is intensely commercial so he said you can go to the council and ask them and if they would agree with you then you know you said i'll be fine with that otherwise i would prefer that the 40-foot level so um is you know am i being fair here keith what i'm saying everything i want to make sure i'm not putting that's okay address your comments to the council thank you okay so basically that's what we're mainly asking for is the base heights get it back to 48 feet because there's so much pressure for that little bit of intensive commercial land that's left people are constantly contacting us wanting to do things because there's so little left that's out there and it's not my time that's three minutes okay so bottom line is we're that lot there and we're not asking for anything we didn't have six months ago we're just asking for some of it back and that's what we're hoping that the council will consider letting us have the 48 feet other than that we want to go along with what keith and his department has come up with thank you tom and thank you for bringing copies tonight for council thank you is there anyone else that would like to address the council christina you want to come up well good evening i'm christina bruning i'm a resident of old town issaquah and madame mayer and members of the city council i moved to old town issaquah in 1991 to be close to trails for hiking and cycling where i didn't have to get into my car i walk for transportation i actually ran down here tonight so i walk i do walk for exercise and leisure as a walking ambassador for the city's sustainability program a few years ago i'm also asked to continue lead rocks in issaquah a number of years ago our neighborhood in south issaquah created a community awareness initiative and we did this so that we could better understand what our needs were and the needs of the community and how we could all work together to move us forward [Music] our our neighbors are known to be positive contributors who live work and play here we have several issues that have piqued our interest over the years and those have been around for a while you know of them well we have artificial turf and stadium lighting that was being done at the then middle school eight feet from people's bedroom windows we worked to get two fields up at central park the rainier trail where folks did not want their children walking because it was kind of creepy it is now a shift to it's an active use trail we have front street we've said it's loud the traffic is fast and the sidewalks are narrow we now have a crosswalk so we can use both sides just this past saturday actually i was walking from old town to the state park i was almost hit by a car as somebody felt it was necessary to make a left as a group of pedestrians were in the middle of a crosswalk it was so scary that somebody took a water bottle and threw it at the car the construction was another project we worked on with the city and the elementary school new clark elementary and then currently we have the new middle school that has stadium lighting which is visible from our homes old town sub area plan update this is one we have been watching very carefully we totally appreciate the mindfulness of the council land and shore and of course public the planning policy commission we love the idea of a walkable community and of course the gathering places as you know we identify as old town so front street clark through front and second avenue when that came up through conversations throughout the last however many months that was quite disturbing to us and alarming to us so we look forward to further conversation as we move forward from plan to implementation the best solutions as we have proven come from community engagement and the folks on the ground so thank you for considering these thoughts as you move forward thank you christina did you want to leave your comments with the clerk if you have them in writing uh possibly okay thanks is there anyone else that would like to address counsel this evening steve come on up hi steve pereira old town about 10 years now um so indeed the old town siberia plan is indeed on the agenda tonight and i do and one of those who also like the old town area very much it's kind of what brought me attracted me to come to israel in the first place it's obviously received a lot of attention over the years i just put it in context i know that one person had talked about the difference between old between quaint and unique and different and old just being tired one down and worn and we fought hard for the idea of not letting uh and having to fight not keep the e in old but if we change a lot of the things that are unique about it while there are a lot of good things in the plan i think the height and the density changes aren't in keeping with what we were essentially promised in that old town would stay unique and we wouldn't put those central israel plan standards into place from the cip which is where a lot of the area was zoned for and now we're trying to change the standards and the limits to more match cip which was put in place uh it seems like if i went to any other neighborhood in israel if i went to telus if i went to the highlands we wouldn't be talking about he would be upgrade upset about that very much and proposing it just seems out of character with what we were promised and told wouldn't happen in taking cip plans and applying them here there's a lot of good things in the plan as far as community gathering spaces and there's good things i've seen those go forward but i don't know that i agree with i well i don't think i disagree i know i disagree with changes in height and density there's not room for those were losing to someone's character and unique and special that we're not going to get back i think a lot of that applies i think also to uh i'm sorry that's other scope i think that applies to the state route 10 but that's not up for consideration tonight so i'm going to leave that off the discussion um i'm just kind of this pit of my side of my stomach as we look forward to thanksgiving i think this seems to be the last chance that we have to ask your help and support in consideration in keeping old town the unique and special place that it is um and i think we need to keep the density at 65 percent and i think that i would like to keep with the two-story limit that's in place today and i'd like your support on that thank you thank you steve is there anyone else who would like to address the council this evening that i can call anyone wishing to address the council i don't think i can have you back up oh different comments come on up steen is coming back up well hello um christina bruning i am the board president of the downtown issaquah association and madame mayer and members of the city council as an old town resident i got more involved in the downtown issaquah association also known as dia to bring forward the voice and the spirit of old town residents i'm pleased this evening to stand before you and express our sincere support to the city the city council i look across at you and i see you many of you at our events whether it was at keep us aqua beautiful day with your families or wine walks and of course gas station blues issaquah goes apples which kicked off scarecrows on front street and of course our farm fresh market the art commission their support and candor in challenging dia to strive for more visual arts in 2019 is very much appreciated so i hope you also in 2018 we did complete the mural on the side of japan ginger and we launched confluence jazz parks and rec made confluence jazz a reality for us at a sneak peek into 2019 that music event at confluence park is going to go from a four hour event to eight hours the economic development group having a commitment of having a staff member on our board has been imperative to our success we did want to highlight the old town sub-area plan update we certainly appreciate the city striving to keep downtown historic contemporary and vibrant the planning policy commission recommendation to move the implementation up on certain parts of the plan was very well received and we as an organization the downtown squad association look forward to partnering further the goals highlighted align with the downtown nissan association initiatives and we recognize that parking traffic and community gathering places and the engagement of old town residents are vital to thriving downtown there are things that we need to do better and we can need to keep talking conversations in the cbd the cultural business district about a three-story building is different than the current 45 feet as this moves from plan into land use code i anticipate through the feedback we have gotten from our community that we may hear some push back on that and some concerns whether or not the aas which is the administrative adjustment of standards for height is going to be retained so that's something to we ask the council keep that in mind the height requirements are something that are on everybody's top priority so downtown squad association is excited to continue to work with the city and as we move forward with the streetscapes plan and other initiatives so thank you very much thank you again christina is there anyone else this evening that would like to address counsel i can call and a last call if anyone would like to address counsel this evening seeing none audience comments are closed move to the next portion of our meeting which is committee and regional reports starting with council member hunt thank you madam mayor on november 15th i attended the wyra8 salmon recovery council meeting we had a somewhat alarming update on salmon numbers in our water resource inventory area or wyra salmon numbers in wyra8 indicated a poor return year for all species and the salmon counters estimated 6700 chinook thirty two thousand one hundred sockeye and eleven thousand coho that was sixty six percent eighteen percent and forty eight percent of the long term averages for chinook sockeye and coho salmon so a lot of the discussion of the meeting was around that 18 return for the long-term average for sockeye and what that means for the salmon in our region and the need for more efforts to support salmon recovery we also discussed funding guidance for 2019 as well as our 2019 work plan for the salmon recovery council and we discussed the snohomish county surface water management budget i don't have an update on snohomish county participation in the interlocal agreement that i mentioned last time but if i do have an update on that i will i will bring that forward to council as soon as i have that information and we also talked about the king county 2019-2020 surface water management rate proposal the next meeting is scheduled for january 17 2019 it will now be located in the department of ecology in bellevue and be 2 pm on november 15th i also chaired the council infrastructure committee meeting councilmember ramos was excused and councilmember ray substituted on the committee we had three items on the agenda as well as project updates the first item was ab7687 request for right-of-way encumbrance talus parcel 9. council recommended to deny the encumbrance of foothills drive northwest requested by ora talus 90 and the recommendation was to have this come forward on december 3rd so that is not on the agenda this evening but it will be later on december 3rd and the deliberation on this focused around the liabilities having to do with the city construction going on in the right-of-way where there are a number of utilities which would be above the proposed tie-backs which is a structural component of the wall that was proposed by the applicant the next item on the agenda at council infrastructure was ab7538 this is the updated water system plan this was one part of many discussions that we have ongoing on this topic and we reviewed the supply options as well as a pro forma with financial information for the different options then we also discussed ab7649 amendments to imc chapter 13.90 water sewer and storm water recovery contracts this is a ordinance updating chapter 13.90 of the issaquah municipal code and it reflects recent amendments to state law regarding these contracts and then in project updates we had an update regarding the southeast 67th street uh construction work that's going on and um roadway is planned to open by the end of 2018. and this concludes my report thank you councilmember ray thank you mayor paulie uh the services and safety committee met on november 14th at 6 30 here in council chambers we had a rather full agenda we heard agenda bill 7651 human services grant funding recommendations and that will be on this evening's agenda as regular business we also received a presentation on the public art for 62nd street from the artist susan zaccola um pretty cool stuff um i'm pretty excited to see it in real life uh agenda bill 7667 the arts grant recommendation and this will be on regular business on december 3rd council meeting agenda bill 7652 hearing examiner appointment and this will be on december 3rd's consent calendar agenda bill 7691 startup 425 enter local agreement and this will also be on december 3rd consent calendar agenda bill 7689 amending the imc 3.63 school impact fees to allow flexibility and adopting fees and this will be on regular business on december 3rd council meeting and then finally agenda bill's 7640 amending school impact fees and this two will be on regular business on december thirds council meeting next services and safety committee will be on december 11th the east side fire and rescue board met on december 8th at uh eastside fire and rescue headquarters the board chair pro tem was none other than our own mayor paulie the agenda included a the board's approval of a letter of agreement with the unions related to membership firefighter annual physicals and special assignments and the board was also asked to provide input into the east side firing rescues 2019 agenda their legislative calendar and the 2018 fire chief evaluation and then finally i just wanted to let everyone know that east side fire and rescue does have a strike force down fighting fires in northern california so they should be down there for about another another week helping out with that mess and the next eastside fire and rescue board meeting will be on december 13th and that concludes my report this evening thank you councilmember ray councilmember ramos thank you mayor on the 9th of november i attended the east side transformation partnership meeting and we were working on the legislative agenda which i mentioned earlier and that will be on their agenda on the 14th of december when i attend that meeting to to pass that if all goes as planned also the emergency management advisory committee will meet on december 12th as well i'll be there the agenda's not set yet the regional transit committee will also meet i should say the sca caucus of the regional transit committee will be meeting on 1219 as we work on some of those issues to break those into coming into 2019 working with metro on some some issues uh the next uh council infrastructure committee will be on the 20th of december and the agenda has not been set that for that yet thank you thank you councilmember romelus councilmember winterstein thank you madam mayor next thursday the 29th will be the next meeting of the puget sound regional council's future sound regional council's growth management policy board the agenda has not yet been published though i suspect it's going to focus on the psrc's vision update that has been our primary work plan for the year and i also want to mention that the um the issaquah chamber of commerce has published a their legislative agenda for the city and um and it's so that is i think we're going to start hearing more from them i think there's there's been a real focus on that they put into legislative matters affected them here in the city including of course economic development transportation and housing among them i just want to make my fellow council members aware that that is not available from them online that concludes my report thank you councilmember winston councilmember goodman thank you madam mayor uh landon shore committee next meets on december 6th at 6 30 p.m here in council chambers and the agenda has not yet been set that's my report thank you deputy council president thank you madam mayor the east side human services forum did not meet in november and i'll give an update uh on what's coming forward in december at the next meeting thank you by council president martz thank you madam mayor the sound cities association public issues committee uh met last wednesday at 7 p.m in renton city hall two particular items of interest we looked at the 2019 sca legislative agenda which hadn't changed substantively from the version that you all saw moved that forward recommended that forward we continued to look at the regional affordable housing task force i will be talking about that a little bit more in good of the order because i want to come back to it i had gotten some feedback from folks so i want to address it a little bit further gmpc growth management planning council will meet thursday november 29th at 4 pm in psrc chambers and the primary topic is is the affordable housing task force recommendations that relate to the gnpc and that concludes my report thank you council president martz now for the mayor's report uh there will be an executive session held this evening to discuss property acquisition per rcw 42.30 0.110 paren one paren b this item is expected to last 40 minutes and no action is anticipated to follow an open session i wanted to talk a little bit about a donation from lakeside industries this evening i would like to thank lakesite industries for their generous donation of five acres of property to the lake sammamish state park i would also like to thank mountains to sound greenway trust for their role in facilitating discussions that ultimately led to the donation of this section of creekside property the donation will result in better connection between the park's trails and the city of issaquah it will also aid in the conservation efforts allowing state parks to move forward with creek restoration sooner rather than originally planned and we're very proud to have a company like lakeside industries based here in issaquah it's refreshing to know that businesses like lakeside care as much about the well-being of the people that live work and play here in issaquah as much as we do and we are very fortunate to benefit by mountains of sound greenway trust's dedication to the work they do to conserve and enhance our region's landscape i also want to tell council about a couple of community meetings that happened over the last few weeks city staff has recently facilitated two community meetings for residents of the neighborhoods of south cove and sycamore south cove was the annual homeowners association meetings it was on monday that november 12th between 7 and 8 30 at zambica it was a check-in for the mayor with the neighborhood and had 20 attendees there's some follow-up items from questions that were asked about pavement management plans who manages lighting in the neighborhood and they wanted eagerly wanted to hear an update on the washdot project there was a neighborhood meeting for sycamore on november 13th from 5 30 to 7 30 at the rogue brewery this neighborhood is currently a mix of sanitary sewer either as septic system or sanitary sewer and this open house quest was a question to gauge the neighborhood interest in sanitary sewer service through a local improvement district or some other financing mechanism the results of the open house will be reported out to the community in the next few weeks or so there are about 40 attendees for that open house and lastly i wanted to talk about the turkey trot happening this thursday november 22nd at 9 00 a.m please join me at the issaquah turkey trot a fun and casual run walk or trot through downtown issaquah on thanksgiving morning it starts at 9 a.m need you to arrive at 8 30 a.m to participate and allow you to get to the start line and the start and finish line is on bush street between the food bank and the community center thanksgiving inspired costumes and accessories are always encouraged and the proceeds from this event go to the issaquah food and clothing bank and if you need more information www.issaquahturkeytrot.org thanks next item on our agenda this evening is the consent calendar this calendar was distributed to council in advance and if authorized the items on the consent calendar will be considered together and approved by one motion have the pay payables and payroll been reviewed yes thank you does any council member desire to remove any item from the consent calendar and consider it under regular business is there a motion meta mayor i move we adopt the consent calendar as listed in this evening's published agenda second it's been moved and seconded to approve the calendar uh all those in favor signify by saying aye aye those opposed that carries unanimously the next item under the agenda is regular business and first up is ab-760 human services grant funding recommendations this item is coming out of the council services and safety committee and i'd like to invite sustainability director david fujimoto to make a presentation excuse me good evening madam mayor and council members david fujimoto director of the office of sustainability i'm here tonight to provide a quick overview of the human services commission grant recommendations but i'll be joined by our human services commission chair derek franklin and our vice chair vanessa moussa vis-a-day and we also have several members of our commission who have joined us here tonight so we wish to express our gratitude and appreciation for their hard work over the past several months real quickly as a recap the human services grant program is a two-year cycle we work with about 17 other cities through a collaborative in both north northeast and south king county to let an rfp to request proposals from a variety of agencies to request funding from the city this uh rfp covers a full range of services uh we often talk about uh services that range from prevention through crisis intervention along one spectrum and then along the age spectrum from prenatal all the way through seniors um and then we also have more recently the benefit of some additional work that provides some focus for some areas for targeted attention the process is outlined so that the human services commission dedicates some time to reviewing and providing recommendations on those grants and they present those to the to the city council which is why we're here tonight which approves the overall funding and the allocation as i mentioned before we have some additional information that was helping to inform the process this year in 2017 we completed a community needs assessment and that helped us to identify some additional areas for support and these are some of the the primary categories with some examples of the types of targeted support that could be provided or that were identified through that body of work this year and as with the last cycle we also identified a funding level this was something that was adopted through agenda bill 7479 earlier this year which set a funding level of 495 thousand dollars overall and this was had two different components to it it included a base funding amount as well as a targeted funding amount in that conversation the targeted funding related to those areas identified for some additional need and support and with that i am going to turn it over to derek and vanessa to go through the process and the recommendations good evening i'm madam mayor members of the council i'm derek franklin of service chair of the human services commission um talking a little bit as david said about the overview of our process the uh the review of the human services grants is uh really the major work item for the commission and we've been working to improve the process with every cycle um here you see an uh an overall timeline of key dates and commission grant review meetings in the past year uh there were several preparations leading up to the application period itself and and throughout the process some of these preparations included one an overall grant review process review which we started late in the fall 2017 to step back and look at our process a little bit and check for possibilities for updates next review of several inputs such as the comprehensive plan human services element and the the recently completed isoqua community needs assessment also preparation for a grant's vision statement as uh was developed to provide a high level guidance or sense of high level guidance for us as a group and alignment around the desired outcome of the commission's work also i review an update of the commission's scoring tools which we'll i'll speak to in a few slides preparation of a city supplement a two-page summary of grant objectives and priorities including those in the needs assessment which was conveyed to all grantees so in other words applicants who applied to the city of issaquah got a supplement highlighting some of the specifics around applying to the city the commission all received equity training and i'll speak to that in a moment as well we onboarded new commissioners this year three were new and uh or three came on board with uh some experience from last cycle i'm sorry and the others were new so it took some time to orient folks to the to the somewhat complicated process with help of city staff uh and we we took the time this year to implement a practice scoring round given that uh there's several steps to the process but a round that involved the commission going through a mock scoring scenario to try to work out kinks ahead of time we held a series of grant review meetings as it says in that calendar may through september eight meetings in total we also participate in a joint eastside commission meeting including the cities of bellevue kirkland redmond sammamish and issaquah and then finally with our scoring we had three rounds of review and deliberation the first round was scoring formally scoring and initial funding suggestions within each of five goal areas which i'll speak to in a moment the second round included refinements and consideration across the full range of programs that we're recommending and then finally round three was to step back a little farther and look at any final tweaks or refinements that would in our estimation give the council a solid portfolio of services to deliberate upon once recommended i spoke to the equity training uh that the council or sorry that the commission went through uh we we had the honor of working with a sarah tran with a non-profit assistance center a few takeaways from the commission uh members were one that we're really here to be advocates for the community and not judge and jury on these applications um also to be aware of one's implicit and unconscious unconscious biases and do do the work ourselves and as a group to practice dismantling them to actively seek to invest in those community-based organizations who we believe can do the work in ways that perhaps other mainstream organizations may not be able to do and finally to work together to choose a group of organizations that will collectively meet the unique needs of the issaquah community and recognizing that this requires multiple approaches so grant applications received as a result of the request before proposal from the city we received 91 applications representing over 1.1 million dollars in funding requests compared to the 2017-2018 cycle this represents a 23 increase in the number of applications and a 58 increase in the number or the dollars requested of the city in 2017 2018 on the cycle there for comparison there were 74 applications and 694 000 approximately in requests so the commission review reviews grant applications in five goal areas or buckets uh these had an origin in the united way process they're used by other east side cities that allows for clear communications and comparison the pie chart on the screen is a breakdown of funding requests as represented by applications we received in each of the goal areas there were several new program applications this cycle they're listed on the screen in front of you we received 22 new program applications in 2018 and we've not received applications from these programs specifically that's to differentiate from organizations or a single organization can apply for unique programs within their broader umbrella these represent programs we've not had applications for in the past so the evaluation criteria itself we focus on several factors in doing this first the demonstration of need by the the applicant uh considered two aspects of that one the need for services using both qualitative and quantitative data did they provide services for example that were not otherwise available so taking a closer look at what they propose their services would be and aligning that with what we have before us in terms of data community needs assessment other metrics from the city and then also financial need the degree of financial need that organizations have for city support the impact of the dollars we also looked at the level and quality of service the capacity to provide services to issaquah residents changes in service demands consistency in services and meeting demands historically we looked also at accessibility issues like affordability physical accessibility for residents transportation immediacy of services cultural competence to meet the population's needs and other criteria and then finally at partnerships that the ability for the grantees to coordinate services with other agencies to maximize impact and efficiency was of consideration for the commission funding recommendations in addition the evaluation of applications occurred at three levels of consideration individually at the individual level commissioned members reviewed applications applying criteria and reviewing applications across basically for all the commission members so every commission member had a chance to read and review each of the applications we looked at the applications across goal area the five goal areas identified previously by the city considering the suite of applications in each of these areas this allowed us to consider for example for multiple applications for like services in one goal era goal area so the council may re may see for example in a goal area around providing shelter that there may be recommendations for two organizations that provide similar similar services and then finally we step farther farthest back and look sort of portfolio-wide at what we what their recommendations would be looking at all of the needs in the community how they and how recommendations that we can provide might function together as a package and interact as best as possible with one another then recommendations do reflect the the division goals and key areas of the city the funding allocations applicants that receive full or partial funding that was in 63 of the 91 applicants applicants that did not receive funding were 28 total [Applause] and there were applications that we said as i said did not receive funding and we realized right up front that this uh the requests for applicants this cycle far exceeded our budget while we as a commission recognize and we're thankful and appreciative of the council's decision to increase the funding uh that they decided you decided to give to human services this year uh the the need continues to outstrip some demand our primary responsibility was to ensure a fiscally responsible allocation to organizations best suited to deliver needed services and able to validate effective use of funding with an eye towards minimizing redundancy and we also recognize the benefit of newer and less proven organizations serving unique populations and providing unique services as the populations and demands of the city continue to evolve generally all these applicants are well respected and provide confidence services it was a very very difficult decision uh to make to not fund these that involved considerable deliberations um next i'm going to turn it over to vanessa who will cover the commission's specific grant recommendations thank you derek good evening i'm vanessa mousavizade vice chair of the human services commission i'm going to talk to you a little bit in more specificity about the goal areas but before i do the part about the presentation that isn't that clear is how much heart we put into our deliberations i want to elevate that for you because we take our work so seriously and i don't think it's a stretch to say that each of us lost a little sleep in our checking each other and advocating for community needs so with that we'll go into goal area one goal area one covers services for basic needs including housing and shelter it addresses food insecurity food access housing insecurity affordable housing supportive services and a range of homeless services to support four populations including youth men women and families experiencing homelessness this goal area constitutes 47 of total funding recommendations it's it also involves 26 of 32 applications that we're proposing for funding it represents about 233 000 of uh almost 400 000 requested it's a thirty three percent increase over the last cycle requested and it includes about fifty thousand in targeted funding the targeted funding allowed for increases in services specific to homeless response system including outreach day centers shelter housing housing stability and homelessness prevention notably this is a first-time funding recommendation for the muslim community resource center and ywca issaquah family village resident services and we'd also like to elevate that we are recommending friends of youth tlp or transitional living program focus on youth young adult homelessness substance use disorder case management and transitional housing we're also like to highlight support for hope link family development wrap-around case case management focused on housing stability prevention and homelessness and significant investment in financial assistance as well as continued support of east east side homeless response system for goal area 2 this goal area addresses school readiness social and emotional support for youth and families adult independent living culturally specific support services information and referral and legal assistance this goal area constitutes 14 percent of total funding recommendations we had we're recommending 11 of 18 applications which represents uh almost 69 000 of 173 000 total requested it's a 25 increase in funding over the last cycle and it includes 20 700 in targeted funding which contributes to culturally relevant navigation case management language access and youth substance abuse prevention leadership development notably we're suggesting continued support of east side friends of seniors new targeted services including culturally focused and language access programs and new programs with iaw influence the choice and cultural bridges for goal area 3 this goal area includes advocacy domestic violence legal services housing and shelter counseling information and referral the school area constitutes 11 percent of total funding recommendations we are recommending six of seven applications be funded which represents 53 600 of nearly 147 000 total requested it's a 36 percent increase from the last cycle in this goal area it includes nearly 18 000 in targeted funding notably we are recommending funding for dawn this is new funding for shelter and supportive services for domestic violence increased funding for lifewire shelter my sister's home and new funding to lifewire's housing stability program focused on prevention financial assistance rapid rehousing diversion flexible financial assistance and advocacy services and for goal area 4 the school area includes medical care dental care mental health and behavioral health substance use disorder treatment and supportive services five of the 22 applications are recommended for funding represents 100 hundred of nearly three hundred thousand total requested it's a fifty six percent increase over the past cycle it includes twenty five thousand six hundred in targeted funding notably um we'd like to mention that we are suggesting an increase in funding recommendations in the school area is a 56 percent increase funding all medical and dental programs that were brought to us that includes health point and international community health services or ichs expansion of funding and behavioral health services mental health counseling and recovery services treatment of substance use disorders and psychiatric treatment and funding for health education in schools through nami and then the last bucket is goal area five services in this goal area include skill development and training job placement supported employment and child care referral and technical assistance services this goal area constitutes eight percent of total funding recommendations we're recommending six of the ten applications for funding this represents just over thirty nine thousand of the over ninety four thousand in total requests it's a four percent increase in funding from the last cycle this represents four thousand two hundred in targeted funding notably we see a significant focus around employment and education services for individuals with barriers to employment in this bucket in sum the human services commission recommends funding 65 applications to meet the funding level target of 495 000. the additional funding provided for this year's grant cycle gave us the ability to support a number of important services in our community we are experiencing an increase in demand for services and the additional funding has made an important difference in our ability to support community needs the commission has regularly reflected on the critical impact this additional target funding has made in filling service gaps in our community and finally i just like to recognize david for his leadership and support of the commission throughout he's done a stand-up job in keeping us on target focused organized and the reason why we have a successful recommendation for you on time is largely due to him thank you and we welcome questions thank you vanessa before we move to council questions could other members of the commission that are here this evening just raise your hand so council is aware thank you for coming it's great lots of questions i think this may be a panel a panel question um so it's my understanding that some organizations had multiple grant requests in and some of them got funded and some did not that is correct okay yeah i mean that's because you went through the list of people who didn't get funded and i i guess i was just struck with they did get something for other programs in some instances so uh we do accept applications on uh for programs that are our specific programs or services and uh an agency can choose to submit more than one application so in several instances there were organizations that submitted applications for multiple uh programs and may have received some of the funding but not necessarily all is there a process in place or envisioned to circle back with those entities that didn't receive funding and do a debrief with them so that they can understand what the thinking was of the commission and um looking forward to next year how they might align uh absolutely so we are happy to uh we typically uh handle those um as requested but are happy to meet with the applicants or talk with them by phone whatever is easiest to provide whatever feedback we can for this grant process and then typically as a part as part of the process for in future years we also have application workshops and other opportunities for a potential grant applicants to understand the process that's coming up thank you thank you councilmember ray are there any other questions that's my brew interesting thank you and thank you for the presentation and the information i really do appreciate all the time and effort i know it's not an easy task i think the comment was made something to the effect how even those that didn't receive a recommendation from the commission many of them deemed to be offering worthy and important service to people within the community so i know that makes it especially difficult i do want to ask one question in the presentation at one point it does say that you did actively seek to invest in niche community based organizations and i'm wondering if any of which that you are who might fit that uh description uh within this uh proposed funding uh certainly so there are some organizations that are more community based in their uh the populations that they work with some examples include india association of western washington muslim association muslim community resource center there are also some organizations that specialize in reaching culturally based cultural navigation such as the chinese information services center so some of those outreach navigation services are um more kind of tailored to those populations okay so it wasn't just issaquah community it was a broader community definition it was the their more based in uh or have connections with those community members um which include community members in issaquah but by the nature of their organization they're more affil they're more oriented towards those cultural characteristics if you will yeah thank you are there any other questions for a motion i'd like to move to adopt the 2019-2020 human services grant funding as recommended by the human services commission second and moved and seconded is there any council discussion let's remember ray i'd like to start it off first i want to just amplify what councilmember winterstein said and recognize the hard work that the human services commission put into making these recommendations earlier this year we set the targeting target for these grants and then gave them the very dubious job of figuring out how to decide which of this pantheon of very worthy organizations should be funded and funded at what level and i also want to recognize the leadership of derek and vanessa and our and david in bringing this home because this was a difficult task and required a great deal of energy to make it come together i particularly um like the process we went through and having well-defined uh criteria to apply so that we can say these are these are the places that we selected and here's why and then also if we can circle back with this goes to my question earlier with those entities or those grants that we didn't fund so that they understand why and given that we have some constraints what that methodology looked like so i think this is a heck of a good plan moving forward for the next two years thank you councilmember ramos yes i just want to thank the commission and derek and everybody on there for all the hard work and you know i was under on that commission for almost 10 years and so i know what excuse me what the hard work is and having the increased number of uh applicants makes it even more difficult and the i'm very happy that we got you increased funding um which we got uh had the ability to uh spread those grants out more but when you got the increased funding the the number of applications also increased proportionately it seemed like so you had just a difficult job so i want to thank you for your work and really appreciate all that you do because i know the hours you put in and the as you mentioned the heartache of uh making those decisions so thank you very much thank you deputy council president [Music] so i just wanted to also thank the entire human services commission david and the staff and and i uh really understand when you talk about the heart that goes into the deliberations is just never easy um and it was amazing to see that we were able to in increase that funding but then seeing the increase in applications as well so just never an easy job i see that the binder has grown even larger than years in the past and this is not an easy job looking across all of the organizations that work locally that work regionally and also the partnerships and and being able to try to determine the best avenues i uh in terms of the process it's always great for me to to see how the process has evolved and i see former uh some of my the members that i sat on the commission with years ago and and seeing how the process has evolved and seeing those goal areas broken down is really impactful and so i love to see that happening and really great to see some of the new programs that uh new groups that have applied like the ywca and some of the expansion of current programs like the food bank groceries to go and and i would um just stand thank you for such an amazing job and i would echo some of my former or my council members that are talking about circling back around with the groups that weren't funded and also with the groups that maybe were funded for certain programs and not funded for other programs so they can better understand how to how to go forward in the future thank you thank you are there any council member winterstein thank you i have real mixed emotions about this at one point that one side i'm it is i guess i could use the word proud i'm proud that this body the council and this and the city in general mayor's office as well supported the increase in funding it certainly i have witnessed over the 10 years that the commission has existed this community and our leadership willing to extend ourselves more and more to help more organizations help more people in need within issaquah and that's fantastic at the same time i've seen i think we had less than 200 000 the first year i was involved and not nearly as many applications and at the so at the same time the number of hands that are reaching out for money and the competition uh for this funding uh is grown uh and and it's i have a lot of appreciation for human services agencies um unlike many of our business and landowners seeking maybe 30 years of certainty and predictability many of these agencies are going one and two year cycles on certain whether or not they're going to be able to continue to offer their same program that's that's a very difficult challenging world uh when uh the funding that you may be dependent upon is so unpredictable and and so that's where i'm torn that's kind of the what makes it very difficult because i'll say i mean i've been very aware of 2-1-1 for a long time and i know people down here for the meals program that i'm part of that have spoken about using it and i've pushed people in that direction to make a call there as well so to see to see that organization that function um our this process deemed that that that they um you know aren't worthy of our funding i'm not gonna i'm not gonna question that tonight uh but boy they get to to learn that it's gotten to that point where an organization that my perception is at least that serves so many with our organization we decided that they didn't or within our city um didn't deserve any of our funding i don't know what that means but what i'm seeing in it is that that again more hands more competition even though we've got more money that we're offering making it uh is really a com and always has been a competitive market and i would just ask going forward that that especially when there's been a long term in history of of the city supporting a certain organization that some consideration be given to that because of the difficulty it is to constantly involve your human services organization to adjust to the increased competition that there is for more and more voices and hands being held out and seek of funds so so i just that that i just wanted to share with my colleagues on the council and everybody listening those that got funding that did not that i seldom have i seen an application that wasn't worthy of something and i know that the sources of funds that you may be seeking are diversified you have a lot of different people you're you're working with and you all have different capabilities within your staff to actually achieve that funding level that you're seeking i recognize those challenges i'm glad that we can help where we are and yet i'm going to continue to challenge us and our city and the commission to continue to refine what what you have been doing refining your process and understanding what how our limited resources can go to best meet the needs within the community thank you thank you council member we're just saying any other comments so if there is no further discussion all those in favor of approving the 2019-22 human services grant funding as recommended by the human services commission signify by saying aye aye was opposed that passes unanimously the next item on the agenda this evening is a b 732 the old town sub-area plan update this item is coming out of the council land insurer committee and i'd like to invite senior planner kristin leeson to make a presentation okay good evening madam mayor and city council members i'm kristen leeson senior planner with the development services department here to talk about the old town subarea plan so the purpose of this update is to address some 2015 council goals that came up to update a plan that has really not been touched since it was adopted in 1999 so about 19 years to consider task force recommendations that were made in 2015 and to you know issaquah is growing so we want to be able to ensure that we can maintain old town's character while increasing its vitality so just a little history this was adopted in 1999. in 2009 it was amended just to remove any references to the bypass in 2015 there were some council goals that came up regarding circulation and establishing a task force so a task force was formed and a recommendation was made at the end of that year in 2016 the old town subury plan update was begun in 2017 pbc made a recommendation to approve the planned amendments and landon shore began review in march of 2018 landon shore our city council actually referred the plan back to ppc for further review we had some new members by that time so we took them on a big tour of old town which was a huge hit and then in july ppc held their second public hearing went back to land and shore in september of this year and here we are so just some format changes some you can see from the pictures that the 1999 plan was very very thick and it has decreased in size quite a bit without losing any of its importance and relevance the eis was included in the original plan and that has been removed that's not done anymore we made elements consistent with the citrul central issaquah plan so we added housing and environment we removed the facilities and utilities element we removed excess background information to improve readability for example then i was looking the other day at the 1999 land use element which is 37 pages long and the policies don't start until about page 30. so there was a lot of information there and then we the implementation section that was there that talked about things like replacing water lines and looking at certain intersections was replaced with a with an action program so some policy changes that we have from 1999 encourage active use and these are these are summarized from the from the plan so not as much details included here but encourage active use of sidewalks to adjacent businesses update standards for cbd and mfh increase and promote neighborhood interaction implement park strategic plan continue the green necklace which is a new idea since this has been adopted through old town prioritize non-motorized facilities and increase mobility options repurpose underutilized city-owned properties employ public parking management strategies minimize negative impacts on regional traffic nope negative negative impacts of regional trade there we go amen parking requirements allow pop-up and non-traditional retail ventures and adopt residential architectural standards reduce heights in higher residential areas i will say when this was remanded from council back to planning policy commission you all did ask them to look at five particular things one was to look at the old town sub-area boundaries so things that they looked at were old route 10 which we're talking about tonight was removed from central isoqua and there was a discussion about adding that to the north end of old town they also talked about removing the area kind of south of clark where the schools are on the east and west side of front street from old town it just they didn't feel like it had the same character without the grid system and the same type of architecture however once they realized that we're going to look at the standards this upcoming year they decided to postpone any amendment so there have been no changes that they're at this time but one of their action items is to revisit the standards and the boundaries one year after the standards are adopted another one was to look at the proposed plan structure in relationship to the central issaquah vision they talked about it but the vision hadn't been adopted yet and they felt like old town was unique and therefore the plan for old town needed to be unique as well strategies or actions from traffic calming efforts they didn't expand on the existing policies that were there i have in here that they provided a description of cut through traffic but that has since been removed parking they agreed um with the idea of employing parking parking management strategies and the proposed zoning changes such as building height and impervious surface they were supportive of the commit land use land and shore committee's recommendations and didn't make any additional changes that is my presentation thank you kristen are there questions for kristen not exceeding any second chance for questions uh motion all right madame mayor hang on a second paul did you have a question or no oh okay sorry adam mayor i moved to adopt ordnance number 2849 repealing and replacing the old town sub-area plan a sub-area plan within issaquah's comprehensive plan is there a second second is that paul thank you um discussion well it's council president says the mover i'm the mover because i was lucky enough to uh sub as chair of landon shore landon shore took a very comprehensive uh review of this this year and um i just want to say i appreciate staff managed a lot of punchlist items in reviewing this up to and including after the most recent land insurer meeting so i uh i just i believe this is a very well vetted uh plan thank you other comments still no okay oh yes councilmember winterstein seeing if you could read my mind when we set off on this actually if i go back a little bit further the council a number of years ago had spent quite a bit of energy in completing a couple major other sub the central sub area then we put a lot of attention actually into finishing the parts of the highlands and it was upon uh completion of those it was recognized by the council at that time that they're that this part of town which so represents um much of what people identify with as the heart of issaquah perhaps needed some of our attention that was probably four years ago and so this has run quite a long process i think it's a very difficult task when i think we set off for ourselves on a very difficult task if you think of the neighborhoods within issaquah some are newer some are older and one's an original and that original has probably seen more change in the last 10 years than any of the other neighborhoods i think about squawk val squawk mountain the change is a little bit slower uh coming there and and you could the newer you are the less change you've seen but it's a very difficult task to set out to preserve a character and i think it's in it and because character is defined by different differently by a lot of different people one of the ways that it is defined preeminently around here is in the buildings in the structure there's many other aspects of course and this is where this plan um is was i think is innovative and bold in that there was quite a bit of community participation especially early on and that data is in the bill if you haven't seen that you should look at that there was quite a bit of input given um there's quite a and and and further uh i think one of the um uh biggest steps that's in here have to do with building heights uh you uh you want to change a place and big build much bigger buildings around older smalling smaller buildings and tear down a big builder build bigger and and this uh we're trying to reverse that trend here and that's a big deal that affects people here now both residents and and business and property owners and it'll affect things for many years into the future so i i really do believe there's much here uh and this is a bold plan to do what we set out to do is to to to the best of our ability to be fair and to try to preserve that part of issaquah we think is essential to our character and identity and i know that this is not just the effort of this council as you as you said earlier there are many commission members and many members of the public especially citizens who live in the old town area that participated in this and i i certainly think we've done our best possible job and i'm looking forward to its implementation thank you councilmember winterstein is there anyone else who would like to comment not seeing anyone if there's no further discussion all those in favor of adopting ordinance number 2849 repealing and replacing the old town sub-area plan a suburb area plan within issaquah's comprehensive plan signify by saying i i closed that carries unanimously next item on the agenda this evening is ab7643 central issaquest zoning for old route 10 east gilman boulevard and intensive commercial areas this item is also coming out of the council land insure committee and i'd like to invite not the planning policy manager but the director of development services keith niven to make a presentation just seeing if you're paying attention um good evening madam mayor city council keith divin director of development services so this evening we're going to discuss agenda bill 7643 which is zoning for two areas uh of the city which were taken out of central isoqua as part of the moratorium concluding the moratorium so on may 21st we ended the moratorium following the adoption of the district visions as part of that process it was decided that there were two areas that just didn't really feel like central issaquah one was the east end of gilman and the other was a portion of the property zoned intensive commercial over by the public works operations shop in total we had 15 parcel zone intensive commercial that we were taking out and 39 parcels zoned destination retail by taking them out of central it required us to go through and look at zoning what would be the appropriate zoning and what would be the standards that would be assessed to those properties we went through a public notice process where 150 notices were sent out to property owners within 300 feet of those affected properties and then we held a number of meetings at the planning policy commission to discuss potential outcomes we also came to the council at a work session through id 0301 and we talked about this we talked about alternatives and options um and that led us then to a conversation at land and shore so to orient everybody here's a zoning map of the city and the area that we're talking about is really kind of at the southeast end of what would be what used to be the boundaries of central issaquah we have the properties in and they don't show up as gray there but they're they show up as white up on the screen those are intensive commercial and then these ones that are kind of purplish pink those are the ones that were zoned destination retail the proposal that we're making is that we actually have we create an intensive commercial zone outside of central issaquah so there would be some parcels that were left within central isoqua that would be zoned intensive commercial and then there would be a number of properties zoned intensive commercial outside similarly what we ultimately are recommending for what used to be destination retail is to have a mixed-use zone within central issaquah and a mixed-use zone outside of central issaquah so in in terms of the policy considerations uh first we have to deal with what zoning is appropriate for these properties and then the second uh piece of the question would be you know when we decided to take these out of central issaquah was it envisioned that there would be a down zone or any effect to the to the property owners and so that's kind of the the process we went through as we started to talk about alternatives so go through my chart here with you guys intensive commercial so option one that was that's what they have now um so this zoning is a remnant of central is aqua so basically there's a floor area ratio requirement there's the building heights there's the setbacks and then there's the impervious the second column this represents the the the standards that were in place prior to bringing them into central liza so those parcels in intensive commercial were zoned intensive commercial prior to the adoption of central isoqua and these were the standards that applied back in 2013-ish 2012. and so what we're recommending now is kind of a split between the two so as as you heard earlier from one of the property owners we're recommending um that the building height go back to 40 feet and not stay at 48. the difference between those two is roughly one story you can build three stories at 40 and you can build four stories at 48. um but what this what this also says is there's a maximum of 65 feet that would be allowed so that's five stories and that is that's current that's consistent within all three recommendations so we not we did not make a recommendation to remove that or reduce that in any way that was consistent with what they had prior to inclusion in central and there's provisions within the city code which tells you how you get basically from 40 feet to 65 feet from a setback standpoint the conversation we had with the property owners is the land uses within the intensive commercial zone uh they're they're really they're very auto oriented um so things like setbacks um front yard side yard rear yard setbacks all made sense for those property owners as you can see what they have now are zeros and part of the reason for the zeros in central is we want all our buildings to be right next to each other it promotes walkability and pedestrian interest i think when we decided to pull these properties out of central issaquah there's also an acknowledgment that this area is really not pedestrian oriented it really remains very auto oriented and so these setbacks are more in keeping with a more suburban style of development what we did though we also kept the 90 impervious um from central and one of the reasons why we didn't revert that back to the 65 percent is you know as i think we agreed with the property owner that testified earlier there's really not that much land in intensive commercial left we don't have a storm water limitation that would warrant limiting it to 65 percent and so leaving it at 90 percent seemed like that was a good compromise with property owners so flipping now to destination retail the conversation we had is you know really there's nothing that requires those properties to stay retail and so having it be called destination retail really didn't make sense uh long term for the city so that's why we were proposing mixed use um under the um current standards again there's an far requirement within central issaquah where we're going to [Music] the preferred option from the administration really not much has changed the big conversation was about front yard within central there's really a build to line again getting back to that expectation that properties would build up to the street right away to promote walkability as we talked about it primarily with the grange and bombs and sam kyle i think there was a belief that you know those properties really wanted a little bit of a setback from the right of way and so we changed it from basically the zero build two line to a ten foot front yard setback but all the other standards were proposing to remain the same so that's the recommendation from the administration is really uh option three of for both intensive commercial and uh for mixed use and i think that's the end of my presentation questions council member winterstein thank you keith what are the ways in which a property owner can build up to 65 feet if the base height is 40 or 48 how do they get to 65 so so in central the way that you get above the base height is there's a density bonus program or transfer development rights outside it's specified in the city code and i don't have that list memorized i apologize but it's a specific list of criteria that you have to satisfy to be able to go above um the base height you could phone a friend but none of them were here council member if that would be helpful um could you talk about what percentage of the um property owners were able to discuss the changes with you in the series of um meetings that were conducted sure um so uh we didn't have you know as as i mentioned earlier we sent out over 150 notices to affected property owners for the destination retail we primarily had three property owners it was boehms and lagrange and sam kyle for the intensive commercial there was either only two or three property owners that engaged in the conversation so not that many um this is kind of planning standard stuff which a lot of people don't get super excited about but um but the there was opportunity it just was not that many and those 150 notices were they mostly homeowners that are nearby because there weren't that many parcels so primarily homeowners so it would definitely all of these homeowners would have gotten notice the ones over on this side you're talking like lakeside and the the properties that are outside of central so which would be some more commercial properties but here you would have picked up you know you would have picked up dairy golden and la-z-boy and those kind of properties as well as some of the neighborhood back in here i had one more clarification on the on the destination retail you were talking about how it it might not be retail in the future but it also currently has residential in in that area with the condominiums it does so mix use again seem like a good um kind of outcome zone because it also allows retail office and residential as allowed land uses thanks councilmember ray so keith what was the rationale on intensive commercial to go to 40 feet versus 48. so part of it um was you know there there were there were some up zones that happened as part of central um but it also includes things like structured parking and far and so it seemed like when we were pulling it out um and most of the properties in intensive commercial are fairly um they're developed at fairly low densities now most of them are single story or two-story buildings um it seemed like uh having the larger building height as a base height um seemed like it was pushing too much density in an area that might be underserved from an infrastructure standpoint primarily streets um so for option three these buildings would not have an far requirement nor or structured parking so we could have street parking and okay great thank you deputy council president bautiste thank you keith i just had a question on timing in terms of the recommendation that talks about housing density the housing density and diversity and completed in 2019 uh and then the question for my first question is do we have it uh where when in 2019 would that be proposed to be done so that's the next agenda bill oh i'm so sick it's okay so sorry you're jumping ahead we can talk about that now if you'd like but hold those questions some of these i some of our agenda bills this evening have a significant amount of overlap there is a laugh yes questions uh council member ramos um yeah so just following up on on the uh the logic to stay to 40 feet where and i understand what you're saying on that side but to me the other side is pretty much also predominantly single story a little bit of two story um but you went to 48 feet for um for mixed so why is the difference on those those two pieces is what i guess so sam's kyle sam kyle's building uh seems to set a pretty big scale it's you know it's uh it's three it's three big stories now plus it's a big building so i think the conversation and plus the um the i think the street access uh east gilman's huge um i don't know that we'll ever build out that entire right-of-way because it's giant um so it just seemed like it the capacity to handle maybe bigger buildings made sense um so i think it was it was simply that it just seemed like it it had the capacity to handle bigger bigger outcomes thank you additional questions is there a motion yes madam mayor i moved to adopt ordinance number 2850 amending the official zoning map to rezone those parcels zone destination retail and intensive commercial that were removed from the central iskawa plan boundary as part of the adopted central park neighborhoods central sorry central plan neighborhood vision amending imc 1806 establishment of zoning districts to add a mixed-use zone amending imc 18.07.360 district standards table to add a mixed use zone and amend the standards of the intensive commercial zone and amending chapter 4.0 zoning districts uses in standard summary and chapter 9.0 signs of the central issaquah development and design standards to remove all references to the destination retail zone just for a second thank you is there a discussion so if there is no discussion i'm not going to reread that motion that was so well read by the council president um all those in favor of adopting ordinance number 2850 signify by saying aye aye opposed that carries unanimously next item on the agenda this evening is ab7 proposed amendments to central standards table 4.3 b permitted land uses this item is coming out of council land and shore and we'll keep keith up at the microphone for a presentation okay thank you um so another i think one of the reasons why this agenda bill and the previous one kind of seemed like they weave back and forth is they both were follow-up outcomes from uh the adoption of the visions and closing out the moratorium this one initially started with a discussion about limiting hotels and self-storage units in central and ultimately when that conversation was finished the question was asked should we go back and look at table 43b which is what this agenda bill's uh affectionately called um and see if there are other land uses that may not make sense in central israel based on the new visions that were adopted so we went through that and we came up uh we had some conversations with the planning policy commission and we came up with a list of land uses that we thought made sense to uh limit in central isoqua so correction facility jails hazardous waste storage and treatment facilities heliport helipad helistop automotive wrecking or dismantling yard not too pedestrian oriented agricultural food processing and storage boat building sales and repair building materials storage and sales distribution center and feed store agricultural supply [Music] so this was a list we talked about at planning policy commission we came through council committee and ultimately we were ready to adopt this and there was a an ask to go back and look at one of the recommendations that came out of the planning policy commission which was to limit duplexes triplexes and fourplexes from the core and the mixed-use zone and you know as we talked about that you know there were there were a number of questions that really came up and a lot of it has to do so this one kind of has a new name uh other than 43b which is density and diversity and so it's about talking about housing density and housing diversity and you know right now um the core and the mixed use zone make up 531 acres that's that's all that's over half of central issaquah and a big part of our valley floor and if you're not going to allow duplex triplex and fourplexes within those 531 acres what kind of housing are you going to get and we have a pretty aggressive housing target as part of the regional growth center and if it all ends up being stacked flats and if nobody's building condominiums if all we're getting is apartments then that's a lot of apartments that we're we're headed towards in our city and so that part of it um you know is is kind of then counterbalanced with a conversation about well we need density and if we're allowing duplexes and triplexes and maybe fourplexes they start to kind of pivot towards more dense housing but if we're starting to allow or get um a lot of our core and mixed use area being redeveloped at a lower density housing product then are we going to be able to reach our targets and are we going to support the transit that we're really after for this portion of our city and so really what it came down to was we need to do a lot more analysis on what those outcomes might look like so that we could have a better conversation with the city council so what we talked about at committee was to basically make a recommendation to adopt the limit of those land uses that were identified on the second slide but to defer an action on duplex triplex and four plexes until after the administration can provide some analysis and a better conversation with the city council so that's the item that we had identified the other night at budget to work on in 2019 and to answer deputy president batista's question i think what i would expect is we could get to that probably by start it um february march because we're going to probably need a consultant to do that work that's a part of the budget conversation that we still need to have and i think we're planning to have on the 10th but then you know so if we start february march then we would be done by august september so sometime mid part of the year i think that analysis will be done we'll be able to present that back to the council and then you guys could make a decision on what to whether or not to include duplexes triplexes and fourplexes in the limited land uses for the core and mixed use so kind of mid part of the year i think we'd be ready to bring that back to the ahead council follow-up question so apologies for skipping ahead and popping forward uh but thank you for answering that so mid-2019 and that analysis needs to be done first and so then that uh part of part of the question was then we would be able to go and have that conversation after that analysis is done so that would happen in 2019 right as well right because i think it's going to be very much a character and policy driven conversation with the council in terms of what you would like to see central look like will drive the outcome of that but you need to have a good understanding of you know what the potential unintended consequences might be of deciding that either one way or the other thank you yeah any questions is there a motion member hunt i would move to adopt ordinance number two adopting by reference amendments to the central issaquad development and design standards including table 4.3 b permitted land uses as recommended by the council land and shore committee and direct the administration to conduct an analysis on housing density and diversity to compete to be completed in 2019 and revisit removal of duplex triplex and fourplex units from the mixed use and urban corazons of central isquad following this analysis second the moved and seconded discussion that's my friend i am glad that we will be looking at this in more detail as as a council because i think it does have implications for the character of this area where we expect to see a lot of residential land use in the not too distant future and i also think it has big implications for the community in terms of the housing options that will be available i i as a starting place i think that the mixed use and urban core descriptions and intents of the zoning districts they do set they set descriptions of the residential density as being different for the mixed use area and the urban core area and i think that having more analysis in terms of how we can achieve those differences that were put forward in the plan will be really helpful and i also i am looking forward to getting more information about how this will affect the the diversity of housing types that are available we know that there is this missing middle housing types it was in our housing strategy work plan that we need more of these missing middle housing types i think that there are individuals who um who would like to have both a rental option with stacked plots but also a ownership option and as we know there are not a lot of condominiums being built currently and we don't know when that will change so i would like to see more analysis on this because i think it is a complex issue and it has real implications for how this area looks and feels in the future other comments councilmember goodman and i want to thank keith thank you for your work on review of this table i i very much appreciate it i think it's part of our continued due diligence to make sure that we have the centralisation plan how it should be so that we get what we have envisioned not just what we allow and i'd like to thank council member hunt for raising the housing issue it's this is an extremely important topic and i look forward to having that conversation next year any other comments that's remember winterstein thank you actually this keith you mentioned it earlier this started when the proposal was to remove the storage units and i actually didn't support that legislation because i felt that that even a residential core was that was still a needed service but that did precipitate i think as council member goodman suggested well let's look at the rest of the options and i look at the ones that in front of us this evening it is difficult to imagine how a primarily dense residential area would need those i think it's a little bit different than the storage so i can support that list further i also want to thank councilmember hunt about the housing and a moment ago she said she used the phrase missing middle and i want to add a little bit more and this is why i actually support this variation of taking the the the triplex's fourplexes um off the table today for reconsideration as this motion specifies is that also their construction materials are generally going to be different from stack flats especially if they get taller generally they're going to be wooden in structure and and and that also means that they tend to come into the market at a different price point a lower price point than when you've got concrete and steel in your construction and so i would add in addition all the questions that you put up there about about should we allow or deny these type of structures we have to look at the affordability component and what that would mean as well i don't have an answer to that but i but this is the comprehensive we're going to look at this comprehensively we have to weigh that component of it as well uh it's in and we haven't really i think this is an interesting topic now in that we we had a vision and we wanted we constantly have been um striving for better ways well more recently we've been striving for better ways to help achieve those visions uh and yet and yet uh the issue of housing affordability and housing stock affordable to more people who live here is elusive and we have a housing strategy and this type of structures can be a key part of it and so whether or not we think they should also be allowed in these two zones is the right question for us to be considering thank you thank you any other comments uh deputy council president batis so i would just like to echo some of my fellow council members uh comments uh thank you keith for the work that's done has been done here and uh thank you to councilmember hunt for raising the question a really i think really important question as we go forward and look um at housing and i look forward to being able to have that conversation regarding the duplexes triplexes in 2019 thank you any other comments okay if there's no further discussion all those in favor of adopting ordinance number two eight five one adopting by reference amendments to the central squad development and design standards including table 4.3 b permitted land uses as recommended by the council land insurer committee and directing the administration to conduct an analysis on housing density and diversity to be completed in 2019 and revisit removal of duplex triplex and fourplex units from the mixed use and urban core zones of centrosqua following the analysis signify by saying i i was opposed that carries unanimously the next and last item under regular business this evening is ab7705 council vacancy process look at my notes here so i have to first give a little background on why we have a vacancy um congratulations to one of our sitting council members council member ramos has been elected to represent state legislative district five in olympia and we have received a resignation notification effective january 1st 2019. so i'd like to invite city clerk tina eggers to present the proposed process and timeline for filling the vacancy hi thank you um yes we um have a vacancy that would become effective january 1 and with that the council has 90 days from that time period to appoint a qualified person that individual must be 18 years or older a registered voter and have one year residency within the city limits that term would be valid through november of 2019 that's because the elections office and state law puts a higher weight on an individual who's elected rather than appointed so the person who would be serving in the four-year term that would start in january of 2020 actually starts earlier to carry out that service tonight's agenda bill we have the timeline and process that we'd like you to approve or amend or indicate that you'd like to take more time to discuss it review the supplemental questions applicant presentations visuals and if you had any other changes or questions for us what i put together was a proposed timeline again it's proposed there is some flexibility here if you wanted to make some changes in your agenda bill you will see that those dates correlate to what was proposed to you we could start there if that's where you're comfortable and then we can delve in a little bit deeper if you'd like thank you questions for the city clerk council president martz well did you do you want to walk people through that calendar sure so if you're ready to approve a process this evening we could begin the recruitment as early as wednesday um we followed the same timeline or same sort of process that we did previous there was a couple of nuances i'll point those out we would um you know push this out through social media and all our other variations and and look for others to to be helping spread the word as well uh 10 a.m deadline works well with trying to package up materials for the public to review and for you council members to take a take a look at this this proposal uh would have a meet and greet occurring before the applicant presentations not immediately before because of the amount of time that's needed um last year when we did council presentations you started at 5 p.m and then you went into executive session you had dinner and then at 8 00 pm you started your regular meeting and that was not concluded until about 11 15. so it could make for a very long day if you're trying to have a meet and greet on the same day if that was important to you then i would suggest that you look at having your meet and greet and council presentations on a different date like a non-council meeting date let's see and then following the same timeline you could be prepared to to take action and fill the appointment february 4th there was some interest in looking at possibly narrowing the scope of the pool of applicants you that would be a good suggestion if you had a large applicant pool it may not be necessary if you have a low number but this does provide that flexibility and then you this timeline would include sort of a open q a of of applicants or of the finalists and again you could recess into executive session but caution you to only be discussing the qualifications of applicants and if you were ready you could move to appoint the individual and that agenda bill that would be coming back on the 22nd would sort of outline who the applicants are and what the process is and how the nomination process goes thank you more questions let's remember when you sign followed by council member goodman thank you this process uh allows for the narrowing of the pool of applicants but and you have it slotted up there but what mechanism might we work use has that been discussed it's it would be an all new invention wouldn't it it would be new yes can we discuss that further i'd like to get a good idea of what we might be thinking because if we have 12 is 6 the right number if we have 10 is 4 the right number or or something else and then how to do that you're like council president mart's waiting because we have discussed this a bit yeah so the genesis of this is the sense that uh we have typically what happens is we have a whole bunch of people who come to the last meeting of this process and many of whom do not get nominated and and go through a long process and so we thought the possibility if we had a large number of applicants that would make sense to perhaps narrow it down and then that would allow us to focus in and spend more time with a smaller number of candidates for whom there was some expressed interest from the council in understanding better i think the idea was perhaps three um and that i i suspect although i'm open to suggestions that we would just open it up for potentially up to three nominations on that evening although like i said um you know we hadn't we hadn't fully detailed this one out but i think the idea would be taking up to three nominations and then if there weren't um three if there were only two we could do two and if there was only one they would have the possibility of potentially making a decision that evening before we had done q a that outcome seems unlikely okay and if i may summarize then you envision this as a very uh public process of of of identifying and with count the whole council somehow uh participating in who gets put on the short list if we go that way very public correct very public all right thank you hi councilmember goodman um so i will follow up that conversation with thoughts about coming up with a number to reduce to in advance of knowing how many applicants we have and what the what the qualifications i know there are hard qualifications and there are soft qualifications i think it's kind of a difficult thing to decide um because that's that's different with every vacancy goal that we have so that's my comment on that i'm not opposed to the idea however because i can see how that may be a little more efficient and um potentially friendlier to the folks that that come and don't get nominated um the have comments about the meet and greet um i think that was an addition to the last process that we went through and i thought it was overall a good idea um in practice however i felt it to be um not not structured enough and it was awkward felt awkward to me and i think we've gotten some feedback from applicants that that was awkward so um one idea and we don't have to decide that tonight but one idea i had thought about is um lack of a better description kind of a speed dating thing where um we would have two or three council members together and then the applicants would move through and and um one at a time who the council members would have an opportunity to ask questions and have a conversation um so that we at least you know every council member gets to have some sort of a q a or discussion with every applicant um and vice versa and we didn't have that last time well i one idea is to have i think idea is to have it more structured that's just one thing i thought about thank you i saw council member batista and council member ray followed by council member hunt so i'm going to agree with the speed dating aspect i i think that um i'm joking but uh i i too uh think in regard to that uh that last year it was um it was a bit awkward and it was also hard for the candidates to know how to move around and have a touch with each council member and i think it was also hard for the council members to know how to move around and have a touch with each of the applicants um the the other uh so i i feel that that was a that i agree with uh councilmember goodman i think that that needs to be looked at uh the other that uh the other small point that i was going to ask about is the eagle room gives us more room to do that yet and i'm not sure we have enough room here but we're we're also walking over to a council work session which was also an awkward component of that to have to look at your watch and say i've got to go now and it would probably flow a little you know a little better if we were here and then everyone was recognizing there's a council work session i'm just not sure there's enough room work on process council member ray then council member hunt oh i love the idea of an informal meet and greet i like the idea of making it more formal in the round robin aka speed dating structure i think 45 minutes is inadequate particularly if we have a turnout like we had last time and i also am concerned that as deputy president batiste just mentioned if we have an event that we're all scurrying off to at the end of it that creates some conflict and i know nobody wants to put another night here on their calendar but it might be something that's important enough to allocate some dedicated time to so that we can do this correctly and more importantly that we can give the applicants for this vacancy the respect that they really deserve accounts member hunt um and i had a couple comments i like the idea of the more structured uh meet and greet as well i think that that as well as the um as well as the narrowing down process really depends on how many applicants we have i think it's less critical that it be structured if there's fewer applicants but if there is a lot of applicants then i think that would it would i think help the applicants know how to identify with and speak with all of the council members if we did have more of a system in place for doing that i also agree that potentially 45 minutes is not adequate time and it could be its own standalone standalone event or it could be before another meeting but with more time and the other thing that i wanted to comment on was about the 10-minute verbal presentations about the possibility for other sorts of presentations i think that on council we talk we regularly talk and deliberate on issues without visual aids and so i actually prefer to have the applicants make their case and describe their vision for issaquah without visual aids so that would be my that would be my preference because that's what we do weekly or sometimes multiple times a week we talk about our vision for issaquah and we deliberate face to face and talk it through so before i go to council president martz i just wanted to say i'm noting down that we have three things at least to discuss here the use of visual aids or not whether or not we will have a separate meeting with additional time and i can't read my other note but i'll get to it council president mart's followed by have you spoken yet paul i can't remember yes but i have an addition i'll come back to you too okay council president so i was gonna yeah also agree that there's to me there's a question around the 10-minute presentations um but i wanna i wanna i think we should talk to that um as a separate point um and then also the question around uh visual aids or not but um back to the issue of uh the calendar and meeting ahead of time so i i think i actually think about this a little bit differently than everybody else does which is in terms of what that event is for i think of that first and foremost as an event for the public and then a chance for us to see the applicants uh interacting with the public right so that event when we had it over in the eagle room one of the reasons why it was funny and we spent um i mean the mayor and i reviewed the the feedback from from the applicants um last year was there weren't many members of the public there right i think council members outnumbered the public but i think the intent was um that's the pl okay i'm seeing a headshake um i i think the intent of that activity was um to allow the public uh to get a chance to meet with those applicants and again for us to see the public meeting with them and so uh you know i it's one of the reasons why we talked about moving it to this location before the council meeting specifically because we think it would have the opportunity of producing a larger public turnout and a larger number of public members to to speak to the applicants in terms of our opportunity to speak with the applicants one of the things that i want to add to the list of things to talk about later is i think that we should consider in the instructions to encourage candidates to consider reaching out individually to council members because we all know that some applicants did and some applicants didn't and then the other revolves around encouraging or at least acknowledging the possibility of letters of recommendation which some applicants have said that they didn't really understand during the process that that was an option so that also comes from the feedback so um uh i guess that is the summary of my thoughts um i think the meet and greet is really about the public and uh it's the public's only chance to directly interact with the applicants uh before we uh before we bring the the process back into this room what's remember winston thank you i actually have a couple questions so please bear with me tina do you remember the order of things last year my recollection is that the presentations to counsel happened before the meet and greet it did and and thank you and so this is different and and and tola my memory also serves me that i was the one who suggested the meet and greet for the purpose of giving council members an opportunity to interact with a in a less structured way up close speaking perhaps one-on-one or at least in a small group of people so that proposal was to create something beyond just the presentation they gave us and the maybe the chance that they had to talk to us one-on-one if they reached out to us it so the my original intent at least was to create a place where candidates and council members could have more unstructured conversation and in that regard it did accomplish that but i do agree with the observations and that could be even better as well because i do remember going there go okay i remember you saying this now i want to ask you in a direct response to that and and i thought that was actually very helpful to me and so and so this order sorry mayor i mean you know this order actually challenges me i like the idea of that afterwards i want to hear them and then have a chance to talk with them about that um and the other thing i'll say is you know with apologies to my colleagues here on the council that we're going to get to the questions but there are three of them that i want to discuss changing the wording of okay i am going to keep the discussion going to see if there's anything else to add to the list of items to have you discuss did i see your hand go up mariah it sounds like you've got the list i have more comments about what we're already discussing you're asking for additional no you can't you can do both if you would like to make more comments on the process please feel free to do that and then when everybody is done i'll kind of read back the list and see if i've captured all the you know items to be discussed so you feel free okay well i think as as i think this through i think we have a decision to make about um sort of the purpose of that of that meet and greet and and if it ends up being a a dual purpose um that that would that would be fine uh for both having the public there and um having conversations with candidates i would uh council member wenderstein just talked about the order and now that i think about that that does make more sense to me to be able to listen to the to the applicants uh speak and then be able to because then you might have follow-up questions that that you could uh talk with them about um if we are uh if part of our purpose is to involve the public which i believe it is then having a separate meeting on a separate date where where we don't have the council work session i'm love to hear what everyone else thinks about this but i think we might have less public engagement in that regard i'm not sure we if we have a council work session and there are people that are coming to that are interested in the council work session then we just might have more public participation i wanted to speak on the the visual aids so this is this is coming directly for me as being someone who went through the appointment process in terms of visual aids for me and just the way that i work it's very hard for me to read off of a script and that was actually the hard the hardest part for me is that you're you are putting together all of your thoughts um and then you don't it doesn't seem like you get as much of a chance to interact with counsel because you have a harder time looking up unless you have the whole thing memorized and so being able to look at a powerpoint and actually talk a little bit more i guess off the cuff seems seems to go toward what council member hunt brought up in terms of we're deliberating we don't always have something in front of us but to me bullets on a powerpoint where i'm just speaking about certain things so it's more kind of coming from my heart and i'm not reading it off a page seems to make more sense to me that that was definitely my feedback after going through the appointment process and i had one more thought but i'm going to wait because it went out of my head so i think we're going to have a very interesting conversation since five of the eight of us have been through that process so this is going to be fun any more discussion anything else to add to the list i did note down to that you had some suggested question edits as well anything else to add to the list because if not i'm just going to move through these one item at a time and see if we can get resolution that's present i'm sorry didn't paul you said you had three more things to add to the list did i hear that right well that was in the questions so i have the wording of some of the questions i want so i think we can carve that off separately i was going to see maybe if we could put that up and go through the questions um so i'm not sure in what particular order or which is an easier not easy question to answer but let's start with the slides or no slides and do a thumbs up or thumbs down so that we can leave it in i want to be really clear with those that are applying that they understand what the presentation requirements are so anybody have thoughts on that or just want to give me some sort of indication of yes or no yeah i was just sort of one key point here is that if you know there's one question about do you allow that and then there's another question about how how many slides would you allow so they're they're kind of i think our suggestion was one slide one slide yep well to be fair one one council member actually wanted to chat about the possibility of more than one slide but i since i have the floor i'm actually swayed by council member hunt's uh suggestion that uh asking people to present the way that they would up on the dais uh makes it so that i'm no longer interested in more than one side i'm interested in zero slots zero slides uh if we're only going to have one slide then that probably wouldn't work in terms of what i was just speaking to so one slide i think it would be super dense i guess i would still vote to at least have one slide but it doesn't it's not exactly what i was uh speaking to so if other council members feel that um otherwise then i would say no slides i'm gonna tell i'm just gonna move right down and sort of get a indication and i'll come back to you if that's okay i'm sorry can i just suggest that if if the vote is to not include slides we don't have to worry about it but the vote is to include slides so we can have the follow-on conversation councilmember goodman i was just going to say that i'm i too i'm not supportive of the visual presentations because at some point it becomes it could the potential is there for all of the applicants to do something completely different and then i start thinking about well we're not really comparing apples to apples it's apples to oranges and so if somebody does some bang-up job on slides then then you wonder if that same other person that was so impressive could also do a bang-up job on slides and so at this point i'm not supportive of anything more than just what we have traditionally allowed thanks bounce remember winterstein no visual aids individually it's councilman ramos oh pass councilmember ray i'm kind of thinking of this presentation a bit like a candidate's forum where you don't get to bring visual aids so i'm a no visual aids okay sounds like that's where we're landing that we will have our 10-minute presentation as we did before no visual aids next one do you want to have well i had two on the meet and greet do you want to have it on a separate date with a longer amount of time and where do you want to sequence it in the schedule remember goodman i'll just start with a suggestion what if we just flipped the two meetings we had on january 14th we had a special special meeting just with the council are the presentations and then on the 22nd um the council that's a regular council meeting because it's the day after mlk day yeah it starts at seven so my question about that day is would that gives us an extra half an hour and we could start at five or five thirty maybe five um and then go on to our council meeting um and then making sure i understand what you're suggesting is keeping the meeting on the 14th which would be the 10-minute presentations and moving the meet-and-greet to an hour and a half before the january 22nd council meeting okay can i point out that um the council presentations an executive session was a three-hour meeting mm-hmm and the council meeting did start later when we did this last year so if it were to be on the 14th and it were to be three hours long it would delay the work session and make for a very long night um so there is a there is a work session there is a work session now on the 14th yes um is it do we know what's there's the opportunity of moving the work session items it's the first work session in january i don't know how packed it's going to be maybe we just cancel it could be an option looking at the city administrator council president mart and to speak to that i mean we were talking about adding if we had nine applicants 90 minutes right so we're not i mean that in terms of the modifications the 14th it would just be plus somewhere between one to two hours it wouldn't be plus three hours likely unless of course unless we have 18 hours i think we 14 and then executive sessions so if you're comfortable with that we can for now advertise that we will have the ten minute presentations that night that would move that to the council chambers so that you would be able to recess into executive session and then begin your work session if we have a work session which i'm guessing we will probably have a work session is council member goodman we can play with the times we can that we start both of those special meetings on the work session based on what ends up to be on the work session agenda and number of applicants yeah and move those agenda items if we can and council member hunt was correct when she said what drives a lot of this is how many applicants we get sure so does that look like a plan oh council member ray no i was just going to say i like the resequencing too i think it makes sense to do the presentations before the meet and greet and it'll make the meet and greets more effective i believe okay um so we have done the meet and greet sequencing the length of time the no slides um and i think um this was really not so much for discussion but it was a suggestion from council president that we make it clear in the materials that we advertise about encouraging candidates to meet with council members to do letters of recommendation and endorsements on the last page of your packet is the instructions that says uh let's see you're encouraged to learn more about the role of a council member attend various council meetings talk with current or former council members submit letters of support or reference letters to the city clerk and to review the public financial disclosure responsibilities that's great tina is that satisfactory great council member goodman and the um the format of the meet and greet is that something we would talk about later yep have some time um then i would move on to councilmember winterstein's proposed discussion of several questions applicant questions thank you there are three questions four seven and nine that kind of inject um judgment uh into the statement um and regardless if i agree or disagree it's just the wording of one so for example four reads if you are on council you will be looking at having to make decisions in a divided community occasionally how would you make the decisions on issues that divide the community and so maybe this one isn't as clear as maybe seven and nine are um i would propose a rewrite of that one to um put more of an emphasis on you know the fact that some dif there may be strong sediments held on multiple sides of certain issues uh and trying to understand how somebody would operate in that environment so something like how would you make decisions on issues where the community has strong sediments and they are not all in agreement for discussion what i'm trying to do is just taking that divided community piece out of there i understand the intent sometimes it's hard because we're not on because there are strong sediments within the community better or stay with the original thoughts um no i i i like the idea to revise it um and noting that you know there are different sentiments in the community and so um you can maybe we can one is word-smithing it especially anybody who's ever been a good editor that's remember right yeah i i'm just struck with we're not a divided community so the word divided is the wrong word we you know we may have different points of view we may have different objectives we may have different sentiments so i'm agreeing i'm just throwing out some words that are not divided because i don't believe we are okay so some wordsmithing on that one to make it clearer that it's different sentiments different points of view and getting away from the connotation of a divided community okay right because the question comes in the second sentence how would you make decisions so i tried to retain that part of it and and and you could discuss that allah and so i retained how would you make decisions then i i i in the case where there are strong sediments on different sides of the same issue sounds like we're getting head nuts that that's a good direction to go question seven it starts with is a guaja's growing pains what can be done to better manage these time manage these times of rapid growth in a way that protects our existing residents quality of life and preserves as aqua's essential character and and again your leading candidate and i thought about maybe a more open way of doing it how do you view the city's growth and what would you do to protect our quality of life and character thoughts let's remember i think i think paul just hit on it i think you could just go with what do we have to do to maintain our residents quality of life and preserve esqua's um essential character that's the question the rest of it's you know preamble well it is and and i thought a key if you've run a campaign in the city you know the word growth is a four-letter word to many people so i think keeping it in the question and allowing a candidate to express their perception their their how they view growth explicitly calling how do you view the city's growth and what would you do to protect our quality of life and character so there is two parts to the question and i deliberately wanted to keep the growth in there that's that was my thinking but i appreciate your support supposed to merts yeah i agree that growth should be should be kept in it i want to know how they view growth specifically okay comments head nods good let's go to excuse me i'm sorry so how do you view the city's growth and what was the second part and what would you do to protect our quality of life and character i took that the word essential two questions it is and and and i so that's a good point i agree with that there are two questions except with an and because it is it is an attempt to get at i think the two sides of the same coin there's growth and then how it affects quality of life and character how about if it starts with when considering the city's growth comma what would you do to protect the quality of life an essential character i think that was more that was the original intent was to link those two right and so that's a good way of saying it yes um vicky it's a minor comment but i think the the intent was to remove the word essential is that right yes what and some head nods let's move to nine isquad is becoming again it's kind of leading it's a leading question is becoming increasingly unaffordable whether you agree or disagree with that we could maybe write that just and and as a question please word smith yeah describe your perception of housing affordability in issaquah and what would you do to address it if it is a problem so it may be beyond just how it might be more than housing be unaffordable well so so that's a good point and and my perception was um uh yes i'm injecting housing in there because that's what i thought it was and if if we think it's intended to be broader than that i'm all ears it's generally what you hear affordability and the housing has a lot of cost elements to it in addition to property taxes yep so what what phrasing did you suggest paul i'm less wedded to this one but it says describe your perception of housing affordability in esqua and i'm trying i want to hear what they think about affordability uh they um and because our currently it says it it's judgmental is becoming increasingly unaffordable it's it's a statement of like it's fact i would actually like to hear with the candidate um um what their perception affordability is and then i went on and what would you do to address it if it is a problem see there i got presumptive that if it is if not have a question what are we trying to get at here i mean what are we this one's a little bit of all of them this is one i could take out and not feel like we lost much but so i'm just trying to figure out what what we're really trying to unearth in in a candidate's thought processes i had definite thoughts about this i think housing affordability is one of our toughest nuts and and any i love crowdsourcing solutions when possible and that so so in the off chance there's some genius would drop some brilliance upon us i wanted to keep the question in there box uh councilmember goodman council member hunt it is so specific um that i agree with guess that this is one that i could do without um gotcha councilmember hunt batiste so i think if the intent is to to have the applicants describe housing strategies for affordable and or workforce housing i don't know that the question actually will generate those responses because as it is worded now it's describe your perception of affordability and issaquah could also be up for businesses or pools it could be yes it could be a number of things so i wonder if it would be um i wonder if we do want to have it be a specific question about housing then we should probably put the word housing in there because i think if i were um i think it we might get applicants that read this as meaning something more general um well i guess i can totally understand what councilmember hunt was just referring to but i for me i i actually like the the more broad question about issaquah being unaffordable to to open it up to a variety of different topics um housing is definitely part of that maybe there's a way to word it where we really cover both so you could talk about two different two different things if you had another idea that you wanted to offer about why you felt that was happening so to be completely contrarian uh i really would like to focus on housing affordability i think the variability the very the regional variability is in the price of housing right in terms of overall cost of cost of living and i think that as i've said many times before the uh the way the region and our city in particular responds to ongoing growth is is our just our biggest challenge but i think one of the most important facets of that to me is housing affordability so what however it's worded i would like to know how candidates feel about housing affordability in the city and what they see the council's role in responding to that okay looking to wrap this up councilmember interesting the other thing that this question does is because this is an active issue in front of us we are still working on our housing strategy and i actually remember vicki's answer because it demonstrated that she had looked at legislation that was in flight and this gives candidates that same opportunity which i think i would like to see uh councilmember okay i'm gonna just kind of go in a way off in the stratosphere here but possibly it is describe your perception of the council's role relative to affordable housing in issaquah it's not stratosphere okay the only thing i would change about that is affordable housing or housing affordability right affordable housing has a very specific definition i could i could go either way on that but i'll just repeat that please i don't know that i can do that um describe your perception of the council's role in housing affordability in issaquah that's good does is perception the right word or is it describe counsel describe your um yeah what you believe the role should be no okay what do you believe the council's role should be relative to housing affordability affordability in this call you're taking the what would you do if there is a problem out of the question right now good question gets you where you want to be okay did any other council members want to talk about any of the other questions on that list councilmember hunt uh on question six um that one currently reads in addition to council committee assignments council members each serve on one or more regional board or commissions and what are your views on serving regionally and what areas would you like to serve as why regionally what qualifies you for that service so i think that this is a really important question i i would recommend streamlining it more and removing that middle piece what are your views on serving regionally i think i would like to see it be more like the rewritten um number nine actually so describe your your view on the role of issaquah in the region and then and then what areas would you like to serve and what qualifies you for that service thoughts on that edit what's a head nods that's right okay i'll let tina get that in so describe your view of the role of issaquah in the region and then of israel's role regionally yes did this close around the region and i would remove the what are your views on serving regionally because i don't think that that's a question that's going to generate much insights but this this question about issues role in the region i think um did you and you want the first sentence in there as well to set the stage i think it could be shortened so i think it could be council members serve on one or more regional boards or commission council members each served thoughts lots of head nods do any council members have any comments or edits for any of the other questions that's remember goodman um the second part in what areas would you like to serve as aqua regionally um i think it should be more in what areas do you see yourself serving as a whole regionally and why because it sort of suggests that you just get to do what you like do what you want and council member batiste comment on that no no different okay let's wrap this one up number six with um councilmember goodman's edit better okay councilmember petite so in several of the questions we're asking uh about how they feel specifically and then in number 10 we ask about how the city council can better solicit and incorporate incorporate community feedback and i guess i'm struggling with word feedback that's important but community engagement would be more broad and i'm also thinking about um just just layering in what you know more what are your ideas if we want to ask specifically about how city council can do a better job but also to understand what their ideas are it's interesting it is a question about council performance versus what your ideas are um how might the council better solicit and incorporate community feedback oh i guess that's i guess that's that that's the same i i'm i'm more saying uh you want to know what their ideas i would like to know what their ideas to um to solicit and incorporate community engagement we could say feedback and engagement maybe those are the same but i'd like to know more about them personally so so possibly the question might be if on the council how would you engage with the community to solicit their input that better i like that it is this make me do it again a replacement question or a new question a reworking of number ten okay it again if on the council how would you engage with the community and solicit their input now that i'm looking at it now engage with the community and solicit their input i just wonder if if it's too complicated to ask both questions because there are two different questions how would you directly engage um and also how could the council do a better job with engagement and i actually like both of the questions um thoughts how can i'm wordsmithing in my head so if i hear you correctly mariah what you're saying is you would keep both parts in there okay thoughts is that um what you are intending or is it too much i just think it's important so some some applicants might come at this from two different angles in that way and talk more about themselves personally but they are two two very important questions um and uh two different answers that you would get so i like having both of them but uh council president mertz about something like uh how is how well does the city council engage the community and what would you do to whatever whatever in other words it's a feedback on how we're doing currently and then what would they do differently yeah i'm a little bit apprehensive to do that because um if i was a candidate or an applicant and i wanted your support and i said you guys are terrible at this i wouldn't want to answer that so although i know people from last time that would be that would be happy to answer that but but i think that the the point is this when we ask how we're doing that's a question about um you evaluating us which is not the intent i don't think right so i think the um i think it's really important and i think it's great feedback to get but i don't think this is the forum to get that feedback i think what we want to know is how would you do it if you were on the council that will help inform us in terms of who's so your suggestion would be to just have the first one in the square brackets if on counsel how would you engage the community in solicit input my preference that's the suggestion thoughts and what you could do i was just going to say what you could do is you could also word it in a way i i like that um you could add if on the council how would you engage or do something about do you have ideas about how the council could be doing more outreach i guess that gets to chris's question i i feel the same way i think it's hard to directly ask the applicant uh about how council is doing so i'm just going to go back to my original comment about i like how would you engage the community in solicitors am i seeing head nods you puzzled faces i'm not sure if we're there yet remember interesting i don't want the good to be enemy of the perfect i'm good with it good with it generally good any other questions on the application that you would like to discuss okay at this point if there's no more questions on process it would be great to have a motion actually i have one more question so are we still how do people feel about the potential down select between the second and the third meeting because i'm not sure i heard consensus support for that yeah i think i heard that we want to potentially not talk about a specific number of nominees uh to go to the third night what i think i heard and what probably makes sense is just say whoever somebody wants to nominate gets to go to the third night and if that's who goes to the third night who gets at least one support from one council member to do so and one clarification is that when the city clerk wrote this up she wrote may so you're not locked in to reducing it's an option in your process but i would like to know how people feel generally about that good question i i think it's a great idea and i i think your methodology if there's somebody who will support a candidate then they move forward it's memberhead i'm also in support i think it gives especially if there are a large number of applicants it gives the applicants a little bit more information about how the process is going in in between the steps because there are so many different steps and so i think it's it's respectful to give them information about where they stand if there is a large number of applicants if if there's fewer applicants then i think this process probably doesn't need to come into play so i appreciate that there's the the council may narrow the pool thank you uh council member batiste uh plus one so it looks like we're going to leave it in with a may and see what the applicant pool size is anything else thank you this was a late edition waiting for election results to be finalized you did great we had it on regular business tonight which is awesome and so i would entertain a motion madam mayor i moved to approve the process and timeline for filing the 2019 vacancy of position number four is presented second it's been moved and seconded is there any council discussion there's no discussion all those in favor for approving the process and timeline for filling the 2019 vacancy of position 4 as presented and amended signify by saying aye aye closed council member ramos vote okay passes unanimously um i'm going to suggest that we take a five minute break at this point in time before we move to the next items which are good of the order and upcoming council meetings and executive session so we'll take a five minute break so we are back in session and we're going to adjust our agenda slightly i'm going to move good of the order and upcoming council meetings till after executive session so we'll be entering executive session shortly as earlier announced there will be an executive session held this evening to discuss property acquisition for rcw 42.30 0.110 for n1 plan b this item is expected to take 40 minutes no action is anticipated to follow in open session we will now recess into executive session at 10 40 9 46. thank you thank you and we are out of executive session um back in regular session at 10 54. um on our agenda still this evening we're going to go through good of the order um and council president martin item thanks i'll try to make this fast so we've been talking about the regional afford affordable housing task force action plan five-year action plan and this is something that sca uh has been looking at and been giving guidance i did hear back from the mayor but i want to ask again if if i want to solicit feedback from everybody ahead of a final vote at sca i just wanted to uh so i've sent you all the updated document um i'm just going to read you some excerpts from uh from sca at its meeting on october 24th the task force amended the action plan in response to pick feedback to clearly state that the recommendations of the task force are not mandates for cities rather the task force recognizes that the housing market in different parts of the county will call for different solutions to most effectively preserve and increase the supply of affordable housing sca representatives on the task force have emphasized the need for technical assistance shared information and recommended strategies that will support cities and their efforts to tackle the region's affordable housing crisis i will say our city has provided technical input to sca is an example of what we came up with in exiting the moratorium puts us ahead i think of a lot of other cities as to how far they've thought about this issue in addition to recommending potential strategies the action plan calls for establishing a framework of ongoing collaboration among cities and with king county to support implementation of those strategies and monitoring results this is proposed to come in the form of a standing committee of the king county growth management planning council the task force considered a range of options to support implementation and the preferred option was to utilize an existing body the gmpc rather than stand up an entirely new organization to both conserve resources and enable the region to move forward more quickly this would be significant a significant new body of work for the gnpc and king county is currently considering redirecting staffing resources to support the new standing committee as part of its budget deliberations so once again if you have any thoughts for me on the revised document if you could let me know within the next couple of weeks i would sure appreciate it that's all i have this evening thank you anything else for good of your order that council remember interesting thank you last thursday david fujimoto sent out an email to the council and uh titled village theater i wanted to follow up on that i at during the budget a deliberation meeting that we haven't i had made a mistake and i was had convinced myself that we were looking at year four or four uh for that and i thought i had the information i had looked at it multiple times david helped me see that i was actually reading that wrong and so i just wanted my colleagues to know that um that was an honest mistake uh and uh we are we were not we were deliberating uh um a third year of of a four of a four-year program that they had hoped for so um i don't know if you if you saw that email from david but that was uh i do want to own up that that was my mistake and it wasn't not intended to be deceitful at all it was just a mistake thank you anyone else forget of the order um i just want to let you know that on december 3rd there will be a special counseling meeting to begin at 6 15 pm for the purpose of an executive session item and some of the other items that will be on the december 3rd potentially on the december 3rd agenda are the public hearing on the 2019 final budget 2019 arts grants recommendations um proposal to amend school impact fees and a request for right-of-way encumbrance for talis parcel night anything else we are adjourned at oops you