I'll call to order the city regular
council meeting of November 20th 2017
and invite Adam and Brendon
Boy Scout troop 7:09 to the rostrum and
ask those in the audience who would like
to join us in the pledge of allegiance
to please stand
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America in public which
stands one nation
Thank You Adam in Brandon great job
they'll move now to audience comments
and a few comments about audience
comments citizen comments are an
important part of the public process we
take them seriously and factor them into
the decisions we make anyone from the
public who wishes to comment on
tonight's agenda items or other topics
should do so at this time just point out
that we do have a public hearing later
and the agenda to talk about the 2018
budget so if you're here to speak to
that issue the appropriate time would be
at the public hearing it's a public
comment period is not a question and
answer period if if there is a need to
get back in contact with you and you
have not signed up please sign up after
you speak on the yellow sheet or
clipboard on the table in front of me
and recognize use the lectern and speak
into the microphone state your name
address and any relationship to the city
limit your comments to 5-minutes submit
any written comments to the city clerk a
visual timer has been placed on the
lectern when the light turns yellow you
have one minute remaining
and the timer will sound to indicate at
the end of your allotted time so again
citizen comments written and verbal are
an important aspect of the public
process the city takes them seriously
and we thank members of the public for
taking the time to address us and with
that I would ask if anyone has
signed up to speak this evening there
are none is there anyone designed to
speak Steve come on down evening steeper
era
old town for about 10 years so first of
all Happy Thanksgiving in advance to all
of you I want to put that out there
second thing thank you the Halloween
trolley ride I think that was kind of a
cool themed event to have so I just
wanted to say thanks to all those
involved in having that next item was a
be 75 15 it was a porter Cielo economic
development partnership grant I guess I
disagree with item number three to send
people to this global passport will
Mobile Congress for him it doesn't seem
like a best use of city of Issaquah
taxpayer or funds do that so I'd like to
see a more direct correlation of how
that's helping Issaquah specifically I'm
gonna jump ahead to the public hearing
on the budget I'd like to see the trees
returned the old town area and I guess I
don't care one way or another about a
dog park but I'd like to see city parks
in each neighborhood before I see city
parks for dogs I'd also like to make
sure the dog park isn't near a body of
water were way scrolling off we'll run
into the public waterways the levee and
revenue source a be 7392 it just I'd
like to get back to the idea where we're
seeing if there is an impact from
Regional Growth are we getting public
dollars out of this what's the benefit
are we subsidizing things like traffic
and roads I'd like to see a direct
correlation this is where development is
helping us and where it's falling short
and I'd like to see that in a public
forum next item a b70 491 legislative
agenda I like the cleaned up language on
the affordable housing and the
contributions for the arch so that was a
good thing I believe that there may be
could or should there be improvement so
that talked about
state law that allows for the assessment
of development fees in high-cost areas
like the King County that maybe aren't
faced by other areas so that could be
the state law or state code that allows
better use of local jurisdictions to
have increased taxing authority to a way
to contribute to that I believe that
there could also be some ways for in the
case of is across school district it has
jurisdictions from outside of its quad
that contribute to the schools could
there be assessments to make sure
they're impacting or charging
development fees in those jurisdictions
not just the jurisdiction where they
reside and so contribute on a more equal
basis the last item I wanted to mention
was and I forget what the a B this is on
the I guess the proposed council seat
they'll be coming up to questions I
leave with you all for consideration one
is if there's a contested seat is the
second place voter or elected person
automatically seated if the first top
candidate doesn't get the majority votes
when the top candidate isn't able to
fulfill their seat the second is that
should there be consideration given to
let's say a voter or another candidate
who ran at a different position that
didn't get an opening received a large
number seats should they receive
additional consideration for filling a
seat in an open seat not just have it
decided by the City Council but have it
decided what is a reflection of what the
people's will for a good candidate a
certain threshold number of votes or a
way to consider that not just voted by
the will of the seven people on the
council but on will reflecting the will
of the people thank you thank you Steve
thought anyone else desiring to speak
this evening anyone else seeing none
then audience comments are closed and
we'll now move
to committee committee reports starting
with bill Ramos Thank You mr. mayor
sure report on the 8th of November I was
the emergency management advisory
committee meeting and we worked to
adjust grant funding for emergency
supplies and services there was a shift
in what we were able to do with that on
the 17th last Friday it was an Eastside
transportation partnership the main
thing they're working on working long on
was the there 2018 legislative agenda so
that's a lot of discussion on that and
then coming up on 12 December 1st I will
be attending the state Public Works
board meeting in Olympia I conclude my
report no again you heard that yeah
Paul no report oh look
Thank You mr. mayor the Issaquah City
Council Services and Safety Committee
met on Tuesday November 14th and we had
an update on the teen cafe we had a bill
on amending school impact fees we moved
the two we moved it to bring it back to
full council as regular business we saw
at gender bill 73-89 the art grants
recommendations which we moved forward
recommending on consent and then
multifamily housing property tax
exemption that was informational as was
economic development annual report then
the sound cities association public
issues committee met the next evening a
Trenton City Hall and the biggest issue
that we had was the regional agenda or
legislative agenda and I am happy to say
that it passed unanimously but with a
couple of abstentions from folks who
hadn't had it been able to bring it to
their full councils the regional 9-1-1
strategic plan scoping leadership group
met for the final time it turns out
Thursday November 9th we approved
basically everything we needed to
approve and
terms of finance plan and a technology
plan and a governance plan and so those
are getting final write-up before
submission to the county but in the end
once we got past the architecture
questions that we had in the technology
side was a fairly straightforward
conversation there continues to be an
ongoing funding challenge beyond 2022 to
sometime between 2022 and 2024 the
funding mechanism that's in place for
911 and so there was discussion about
whether there would be some sort of
follow-on body that would help the
County Council ultimately its Cathy
Lambert and her friends it's their
responsibility and but we'll all be
impacted by it so there may be something
coming down the road on on alternate
funding mechanisms for for what's coming
then finally the King County growth
management Policy Council is supposed to
meet Wednesday November 29th at 4:00
p.m. but we are considering rescheduling
it because the sca annual meeting is
occurring that evening and I'm not sure
that I'm going to have anything close to
a quorum of the SCA caucus to the GNPC
of which I am the chair I'm chair of the
caucus not over the GMP Z anyhow
so that's probably going to get
rescheduled this concludes my report
Thank You Eileen no report this evening
Mary Lou Thank You mr. mayor on November
17th I met with the Chamber of Commerce
as the the greater is quite Chamber of
Commerce as the council liaison that
topics that I brought up to talk about
was the results of the elections
discussion of the transportation benefit
district that it was in Infrastructure
Committee but that it could be part of
our budget discussions coming up I Pete
a potential parking enforcement proposal
that might be discussed at budget an
update on the moratorium and one of the
last significant work items that's
currently in progress which is district
neighbourhood visions that the City
Council was adopting there 2018
legislative agenda that Infrastructure
Committee had an item that they were
looking at mini cell tower franchise
agreement and a discussion of school
district a continuing discussion of
school district impact fees they had no
items that they wanted me to bring back
to the council second item that I just
wanted to provide as an update is that
during transition mayor Butler has set
up a series of transition meetings in
the region and with staff and I'm very
grateful for this early entry and
learning about all of the different work
that's being done so I just want to
thank the mayor for that Thank You Stacy
yeah Thank You mr. mayor tomorrow is
across the council's land and to our
committee has a special meeting 6:30
here council chambers and we have one
item on the agenda its agenda bill 7405
end of certain development agreements
relating to aqua Highlands and talus
Innes report thank you
there will be an executive session held
this evening to discuss pending and
potential litigation for RC W a forty
two point three zero point 1 1 0 / n 1 /
n I it is expected to take about five
minutes and no action will be taken on
November the 9th I attended the PSR C
transportation policy board meeting
where we approved the release for public
comments for projects recommended for
funding through pts C's or PSR C's 2017
Transportation Alternatives interest is
including in that releases funding for
Newport Way non-motorized improvements
between SR 900 to South East 54th Street
in addition we discussed the 2017
transit integration report and with that
that concludes
my report moving now to the consent
calendar I'd ask if the accounts
payables in payroll for November 20th
have been reviewed somebody has someone
has oh thank you then with that I'd ask
the clerk to read the consent calendar
into the record thank you the consent
calendar was distributed to council in
advance for study if authorized council
action will occur by single motion
regarding the following items item a
seeks approval of accounts payable and
payroll dated November 20th items B C
and D seek approval of minutes for the
special council committee work sessions
of October 30th and November 1st as well
as the regular meeting of November 6
item e a b7 4:01
Senior Center long-term operation seeks
referral to council services and safety
committee item F a b7 five zero three
short plat and boundary line adjustment
city-owned parcel number two seven two
four zero six nine zero zero eight
formerly referenced as King County
Island parcel this seeks referral to
Keith excuse me the six referral to the
council and Shore committee item G a B
seven five one zero Port of Seattle
economic development partnership grant
the six acceptance that concludes the
reading with any council member desire
to remove any item on the consent
calendar for consideration under regular
business Stacey I move to adopt the
consent calendar as presented okay
moved and seconded all those in favor
signify by saying aye aye those opposed
that carries unanimously
moving now to agenda bill 7 3 9 3 2018
budget
the same comments that I mentioned
before regarding public comment apply
and with that I'll ask Jennifer Olson
our Director of Finance to provide a an
overview of the 2018 proposed budget
Thank You mayor Butler the 2018 budget
was proposed by you on October 2nd and
filed with the city clerk I'd like to do
a brief overview of that and then there
is a public hearing in order and the
administration recommends continuing
that public hearing until the December
4th council meeting the proposed budget
is based on parameters identified by the
mayor those include financial
sustainability maintaining community
safety focusing on quality over quantity
post moratorium plans staff development
investment in technology new and or
expanded sources maintaining our
existing assets and limiting the number
of new proposed staff the budget
includes operating allocations for a
continuing growing community in
transition capital investments are based
on the 2018 through 2022 five-year
capital improvement plan the budget is
available at City Hall and the library
as well as online the city's website the
budget is created in accordance with the
financial management policy this was
updated earlier in 2017 the financial
policy has objectives that set to set
forth financial present principles
reduce economic environment risk
maintain financial capacity for defined
levels of service ensure legal
compliance and offer financial
transparency the budget is created again
with regards to the financial management
policies some of those key benchmarks in
the policy include a reserve level
specifically for the general fund
there's a target range of a reserve at
15 to 20 percent the budget is meeting
this expectation with a proposed ending
fund balance
around 34% one thing to note that
special revenue debt funds capital
project funds the reserves by nature
those funds are expected to be used
based on council goals and objectives
the financial policy also identifies a
balanced budget meaning that in the
general fund current expenditures should
not exceed current revenues and that
means that the proposed or forecasted
revenues that were identified should be
able to cover the proposed expenditures
in that current year and the general
fund budget does that so just a quick
recap of all the funds in the budget
this includes the general fund which is
a major operating fund special revenue
funds debt funds capital project funds
and enterprise funds as well as some
agency funds and internal service funds
the largest portion of sources for all
funds comes from charges for services at
32% of the budget that means that that
includes utility those business or
proprietary like funds where we have
large operations for water sewer and
stormwater the second largest category
of sources in the budget includes taxes
at 31 percent and the next largest
source then comes from transfers in and
that means that there is money shifting
from fund to fund for specific purposes
overall all sources include over 1.9
million dollars for 2018 i'm the
expenditure side the budget includes
allocations totaling 137 million dollars
the largest portion of the budget
includes costs for operating followed by
salaries and benefits at 27 percent and
then we have capital project or those
investments that were identified as part
of the five-year plan for 2018 about 22%
of the overall budget and then again
transfers out and that's that shifting
of money for resources from one fund to
the next all funds include a change or
an expected change in ending fund
balances the general fund is expected to
increase the ending fund balance special
revenue funds are intended to be
declining because there is there's using
essentially cash on hand debt service
funds are designed to pay down our debt
obligations our capital project funds
are the most challenging with regards to
cash flow because they encompass a
multi-year spending on large capital
investments such as parks or
transportation projects our enterprise
funds are proposed to utilize some
ending fund balance as well based on the
system plans for those utilities and our
internal service funds are intended to
use resources that have been set aside
for funds such as our facilities our
fleet and our information technology
funds for the general fund specifically
this changes with regards to these
sources taxes are the largest portion of
our revenues in the general fund at
about 69% and there's a number of taxes
that go into that category the largest
ones are sales tax B&O tax and utility
tax then we've got the other or the next
largest source of revenue that comes
from charges for goods and services so
that includes our Park and Recreation
fees and our charges for development
services on the general fund uses of
those funds the largest category we have
is for personnel and benefits that's a
little over half of our spending the
other large category includes our
operating costs and those in those in
also include costs for the general fund
include costs for professional services
at about 7 percent of the general fund
and then we have those transfers out
in large part that transfers out from
the general fund go to the street
operating fund and the debt fund for
that non voted debt or the LT geo or
console Matic issued bonds overall
expenditures in the general fund
proposed are a little over fifty million
dollars the 2018 general fund balance as
I stated is expected to increase this is
a proposed budgeted increase in ending
fund balance you can see the comparison
there on the right side of this chart
where this identifies our financial
policy reserve targets that maximum that
gold line at twenty percent is a little
over ten million and the the floor
minimum fifteen percent is a little over
seven million dollars so this is one of
those numbers that as we currently are
in the process of taking in revenues and
paying bills for 2017 this is a fluid
number and is an estimate and the
important piece is to look at the
overall impact from revenues over
expenditures when we're looking at
budgets some 2018 budget highlights I'll
go quickly through those we've
identified property taxes based on prior
council actions and tonight we'll also
be talking about that proposed levy the
budget is proposed to increase 1% for
the regular levy and the excess levy is
budgeted to cover that voter approved
debt obligation we have new sources for
Park and Recreation expanded services
proposed tech fees and other
miscellaneous revenues that the
administration has identified for 2018
the budget proposes a bond anticipation
note for temporary financing of unfunded
capital projects requiring a sourcing or
long-term sourcing and the budget also
includes utility rate increases as per
the five-year rate plan 2018 staffing
proposals include three new police
officers one communication supervisor
and ex
handing some administrative support in
public works operation it proposes to
expand the emergency coordinator and
expand stormwater NPDES maintenance work
through the use of overtime for
employees in the finance department the
budget proposes one new accountant and a
department restructure in the
information technology department one
new ERP solutions architect in the parks
department proposes a department
restructure and in the executive
department expanding the neighborhood
engagement coordinator position 2018
initiative studies and other general
operations that have been proposed
includes an energy efficiency and solar
feasibility study mobility master
planning old town parking mitigation fee
review and sign code update it proposes
to increase the arch parody contribution
to implement the strategic planning
effort to finish the class and
compensation study to initiate a
performance management work to plan an
expanded council retreat and for some
space planning in our public facilities
the budget also includes new a new park
turf replacement transfer from the
general fund to the parks capital
project fund it proposes to expand
Senior Services Community Center
programs as well as accommodate for an
increase in the Eastside Fire and Rescue
partner contribution in 2017 the council
revamped the capital budget process and
and approved a 2018 through 2022
five-year capital budget the spending
authorization for 2018 projects is
included in the proposed budget you can
see in the column under 2018 there's
approximately twenty-eight point five
million dollars for capital investments
largely in part for transportation
initiatives and park projects this is
kind of hard to see but this is a list
of those 2018 projects that we've
identified for capital investment
the council has been deliberating the
2018 budget through work sessions that
were held on October 12 the 30th
November 1st and the 15th the next
budget work session is scheduled for
Monday November 27th so with that the
agenda bill is presented to the council
the recommended action is for council to
conduct the public hearing and then
continue that to the December 4th
council meeting and with that I'd be
happy to answer any questions are there
questions thank you with that I will
open the public hearing at 7:28 and ask
if anyone has signed up to speak
is there anyone in the audience who has
not signed up desiring to speak this
evening David
David Kepler 255 Southie Sanders I'll be
quick because some pretty ignorant of
the budget to be honest and haven't
followed it like I should have but two
items next door last night somebody
commented on your store about concerns
about a handicap parking and Nan and
felt there was non enforcement of it and
it just kind of triggered lots and lots
of comments today and since last night
and lots of thanks so there's a real
perception out there based on the
comments in my own that there's no lack
of parking enforcement at least in in
those handicap areas and I think it's a
whole area in the city where parking is
an issue and parking enforcement officer
is not a commissioned officer as my
understanding doesn't carry a firearm
and had all that liability and all that
extra salary that that the
responsibility carries with it but I
think it would make a big difference on
perception of people on how the city is
enforcing parking regulations the other
one is volunteer coordinator I think
it's past time and I should have been
making this pitch more formally for
months now but the idea of having them
city sponsored volunteer coordinator to
help get volunteers for city operations
as well as the many nonprofit groups we
have here we do have lots and lots of
volunteers and people start asking and
looking around they can they can find
opportunities but it would be nice to
have more of a central database of those
opportunities and I think we would get a
lot of good good labor we got a lot of
high quality people in the city and I
think a lot of them would be glad to
volunteer more thank you thank you David
anyone else in the audience desiring to
speak yes ma'am
my name is Jody Hutchinson I live at
three-30 Rainier bellever north in Old
Town as to the budget and specifically
parks and recreation
I noticed the skatepark has opened and
it looks wonderful and everybody seems
to be enjoying it but it does seem as if
the vast majority of the people who are
enjoying it are in fact of one gender
and I am wondering what if anything the
city of Issaquah is planning that might
provide an equivalent facility for
members of the opposite gender thank you
Thank You Jody it's a good thing we
don't answer questions during audience
comments my name is Lindsay Walsh 1769
twenty eighth Avenue Northeast and the
Highlands regarding the budget I noticed
that there was the council manic debt
the you guys were considering or that
staff had proposed I don't have a
problem without one point six five six
million whatever it was
sorry 279 pages hard to remember all the
numbers but I believe that was three
different projects 1 million for
Northwest Sammamish Road 156 for Front
Street and then a 500,000 and I tried to
find what it was but I believe the
500,000 is the proposed number from the
CIP previously and now it's being
budgeted forward at 750 and so I wonder
whether that one six five six should be
upgraded by 250 I don't know I'd have to
find the numbers on that but just
something to check also with the council
Manek bonds I think particularly
focusing on transportation projects
considering that is obviously our
traffic issue is a really good idea and
what Bob had mentioned in one of your
meetings how you could borrow from
utility funds or one of those and
effectively be able to pay our
sells the interest I think really makes
it a good opportunity for us to move
some of those projects forward that are
sitting on the CIP and particularly if
we can publicize those and let the
residents know that we're doing that
regarding that I'm really pleased to see
that the neighborhood engagement
coordinator was given a little bit more
staff potential so that we can really
move that project forward so thanks
Thank You Lindsay anyone else desiring
to speak this evening anyone else seeing
no one then audience comments are closed
at 7:30
9
I'm 34
thank you taller and so I see that the
the motion would need to continue the
public hearing and I can make that
motion and assume it'll be seconded and
then I don't know if there's discussion
about the motion or anything else that I
guess we'll find out I would move to
continue the public hearing to the
December for 2017 council meeting to
allow for additional public testimony
okay moved and seconded discussions or
questions
so question mr. mayor so when the public
asks questions here as well during this
public hearing this is are we gonna
respond or just the mayor's office
respond or how does Lindsay another get
their answers the administration will
respond thank you any additional
questions or discussion seeing none then
all those in favor of continuing the
public hearing to the December 4th 2017
council meeting to allow for additional
public testimony signify by saying aye
it was opposed that carries unanimously
moving now to our regular business items
the first is agenda bill 7 3 9 2 2018
proposed levy and revenue sources in
Jennifer for this one also Thank You
mayor Butler pursuant to our CW 84.5 5.1
to zero all taxing jurisdictions that
collect a property tax levy must hold a
public hearing this was done at the
November 6 2017 City Council meeting I'm
gonna talk real briefly about the only
the revenue sources and this is a
portion of the budget process but all
city funds included in the proposed
revenue budget are a little over 129
million dollars the largest portion is
of course charges for service as well as
taxes the proposed 2018 general fund
revenue sources equal an estimated
increase of 8 point 7 percent from 2017
those new sources include rebate program
dollars 9-1-1 escrow dollars recreation
program enhancements the 2018 general
fund budget does include
sorry my time is up
we will reset the clock that's a hint
expanded sources include that property
tax increase of 1% that is the
limitation that is offered from the
state of Washington just keep going and
we're done okay we also have proposed
expanded revenues in the general fund
further permit and development charges
and as well as cost allocation plant
update that are forecasted to bring in
additional revenues total sources in the
general fund include a little over fifty
million dollars with the largest portion
being property taxes sales taxes utility
taxes and bno taxes the property tax
portion of the general fund budget is
proposed at 1% this equates to eighty
six thousand six hundred ninety eight
dollars this information is provided by
the King County Assessor's Office which
provides our estimated or assessed
evaluation for all properties in the
city of Issaquah and the overall
estimated levy amount the 2018 estimated
valuation is over ten billion dollars
the 2018 proposed regular levy is eight
million nine hundred ninety three
thousand four hundred seventy eight
dollars that includes that 1% increase
as well as new construction valuation
and any refunds or assessments and these
are automatic so what we're talking
about is the limitation on the one
percent property tax levy tonight the
excess levy is proposed to be set at 1
million seven hundred fifty thousand
dollars this is to cover the 2018
principle and interest payments that
were approved by the voters the 2018
proposed property tax rate is
approximately eighty nine cents per
thousand of valuation again this is
based the final number will come from
King County after
said and done with final evaluations and
final levies adopted by taxing
jurisdictions the 2018 proposed excess
tax rate is estimated at 17 cents per
thousand dollars of assessed valuation
there are a number of different taxing
jurisdictions ask the question can you
go back one slide please Chen so the one
percent property tax rate increase for
2018 equates to eighty six thousand six
ninety eight so the that's an increase
in the collection the city can collect
and no more than one percent than it did
last year that is correct
so I also noticed in the motion it says
at a rate of one percent over the
previous year and so I just wanted to
make it clear to people who are here and
what and watching the confusing part
when it says one percent property tax
rate increase appears as though the
proposal is to raise the property tax
rates by one percent and that's not the
proposal that is that is not the case
the City Council can increase the levy
the regular levy portion only by one
percent and that's the 86,000 however
this the levy also increases
automatically by the value of the new
construction and then the value of
what's called assessments or refunds
that also the city can levy for each
year and so those are numbers that until
we get into the fall of each year do we
know what we have for our new
construction valuation or any of those
other additional levy amounts so the
actual equivalent increase in property
taxes is more than one percent but the
City Council can only authorize one
percent to go up and that's why it is
confusing its property tax for the state
of Washington so that's at 86,000 thanks
okay all right thank you just wanted to
briefly go over the there are other
jurisdictions who tax property owners
and the city of Issaquah is just one of
many those include the Regional Transit
Authority King County flood zone Port of
Seattle Ferry District emergency medical
services the library district the county
state school fund and it's a closed
school district so for 2017 this is an
example of last year's the total rate at
nine point nine nine dollars and ninety
cents essentially per 1000 of assessed
evaluation and you can see the total for
the city of Issaquah was a dollar twelve
for that one thousand per assessed
evaluation if we look at the actual tax
bill that equates to some doubt the
actual dollars that are paid to those
taxing jurisdictions again this is based
on 2017 other jurisdiction rates because
the city vistacal does not know what
those other jurisdictions are proposing
for adopting in their levies so for a
medium value home of about seven hundred
thousand for the city of Issaquah you
see the tax bill of about seven hundred
eighty six dollars the 2018 levy rate is
scheduled to go down to about eighty
nine cents per thousand of assessed
valuation from about 94 cents and this
is the regular levy what is also
different from the regular levy is this
excess levy for 2018 that dollar figure
is seventeen cents per a thousand
dollars of assessed valuation this is a
graphic of the actual rates as we look
at 2017 actual versus the estimate for
2018 property tax assessed valuations
then are increasing and over the last
three years have gone up in 2016 9
percent in an assessed valuation 7
team went up over 11% and it's estimated
that property tax assessed evaluations
will go up on an average of twelve point
three percent so for 2018 if we were to
use that same median value home of
700,000 but we but we added in or
adjusted the portion for the city of
Issaquah you can see that the portion
for city paid taxes would go down about
three dollars to about seven hundred
eighty three dollars and that'll
conclude my presentation with regards to
the 2018 proposed property tax levy of a
1% increase I'd be happy to answer any
questions questions it's a very thorough
job at a very interesting presentation
so Jen thank you
yeah Stacy Thanks
I would approve resolution number 20
17-16 confirming an increase of the
property tax levy for the city regular
property tax for 2018 at a rate of 1%
over the previous year and to adopt
ordinance number 2 8 1 to levying the
general taxes for the city of Issaquah
for the fiscal year commencing January 1
2018 on all property both real and
personal in said city which is subject
to taxation for the purpose of paying
sufficient revenue to carry on the
services of said city for the ensuing
year as required by law
second moved and seconded any discussion
or questions seeing none then all those
voting to approve resolution number 2017
- 1 6 and ordinance number 2 8 1 to
signify by saying aye it was opposed
that carries unanimously
Thank You Jan moving now to agenda bill
749 1 the 2018 legislative agenda see
the administrator Bob Harrison for a for
the staff presentation good evening so
the City Council reviewed the
legislative agenda at their last meeting
which was the committee the whole and
went through there and so what I'm going
to go through this evening is just those
items that based on the feedback we
received we took a stab at trying to
incorporate and so this work was done by
Doug levy and I and then the mayor elect
provided some feedback as well because
the comments were related to one of
those and so we wanted to make sure we
got it actually captured accurately and
so the first thing was we added a
preamble to this which kind of
identifies this issue regarding regional
traffic
and so quickly it just says note to area
legislators well it's Club recognizes
the 28 teen session is a short 60 day
session and that meaningful progress in
revenue and infrastructure measures may
be more difficult to city urges
lawmakers to think about revenue tools
and options that can be used to address
regional transportation corridor
gridlock growth management act related
infrastructure costs and more it's quite
respectfully ask that lawmakers
identifying fund those regional projects
required to move goods services and
workers from urban area to urban area if
not in 2018 then in the 2019 session in
particular those urban areas in
Southeast King County connected by low
capacity state and county routes such as
highway 169 highway 118 where the GMA
has required growth to be accommodated
and local zoning but no impact fees have
been collected and no funding has been
identified to provide regional
infrastructure to connect workers to
jobs and so the goal of including this
as a preamble is we know that this is a
very short session this upcoming year
and so to to get an outcome on this
would be extremely difficult this year
but we didn't want to communicate the
concerns that squaws had on regional
traffic and the impact that has had upon
us the second item which is a little
more challenging to read but essentially
cutting through all the cut through that
we did we dropped greatly and then we
drop tremendous and this was regarding
the i-90 auxiliary lanes SR 1890
interchange and critical gaps and
regional roadway network funding then we
added the city hopes that additional
revenue tools can be provided in future
years and anticipates bringing forth
other needs in connection with the 2019
2021 transportation budget in the
meantime however the city wants to
ensure that area lawmakers protect
investments made under the 2015
connecting Washington and fine-tuned in
2017 one pending investment involves
eastbound and westbound auxiliary lanes
for i-90 so we're essentially trying to
communicate that
those projects that were originally in
connecting Washington and then there are
modifications made particularly as it
related to the SR 18 interchange where
that project got moved up that they
maintained those as currently authorized
and then there will likely be a change
to the project that was funded that
initially was going to be PQ Slains
and so based on meetings that we've had
with wash dot they are proposing
auxilary lanes which would be available
on a 24/7 basis and would actually have
an enhanced impact on traffic on i-90
the high peak use lanes and then the
last item can be found in the issue
regarding 20 the land-use growth
Management Act housing oops
and we added a bullet here that says it
squaws facing mounting pressure due to
growth management a lack of regional
transportation investments to support
that demand it's called support
initiatives that proactively address
regional transportation solutions and so
that was in relation to some of the
concerns regarding the lack of
investment by the state and although the
our municipality continues to meet the
requirements under the GMA and the
requirements put upon us by our growth
targets so with that those are the
proposed amendments based on the
committee of the whole conversation that
we had last week and if this is
acceptable then that would be great and
then we'll prepare that for our
legislative breakfast that will be
scheduling in January are there any
questions of Bob well thank you Bob and
thanks for the update a couple question
let's start with the preamble the the
characterization
of okay about let me see one two three
four five six seventh line down County
connected by low capacity state and
County routes such as highway 169 and
highway 18 it's I found the the
characterization of say highway 169
actually both of those as characterizing
those as low capacity just kind of
jumped out at me we certainly have
insufficient capacity and and I just
wonder if we want this to be sticky in
people's mind I think I think we should
maybe describe them in a way that
actually makes the point is that their
capacity is insufficient that was one
comment and then I have a kind of a
general question too about why we would
put highway 169 on there and as opposed
to something like say I don't know State
Route 900 actually which actually runs
through town I think the connection with
18 is obvious we know that because of
its insufficient capacity and
unreliability it drives a lot of the
pass-through that we get but 169 isn't
nearly as obvious but 900 is so those
were the I just wanted to so my proposal
would be to somehow change that from low
capacity to somehow mention that these
certain highways such as state route 18
and potentially save Route 900 instead
of 169 and have as having you know
insufficient capacity
bah-bah hey Lu has a question oh yes
well I didn't know that but I well there
was a do you want to address Paul's
comment first so the the term
insufficiency is actually probably a
little bit better term than low so that
would in my opinion would be a good
change those from what we have seen
based on these cohort Rhodes study we
don't know for sure but we do know that
there's a significant amount of traffic
that's coming from South King County
into the community which if there were
improvements made to 18 we could
probably see less impact of some of
those commuters on that and so I think
that's why 18 was referenced the same
was true from 169 now that's more
anecdotal because we haven't done a
study there but based on communications
received from Covington and Maple Valley
they said there's even though Hobart
Road can take sometimes an hour in the
morning it's still faster than taking
169 to wherever it is that they're
commuting and so based on their reports
to us that making improvements and
enhance the capacity of 169 would
actually have a enhanced impact on the
amount of traffic traveling through risk
well Bart Road during the am peak so
that's why those two were called out I
think and I was just trying to take a
quick look for it but we did talk about
improvements made to 900 elsewhere in a
legislative agenda I know that they were
looking at a sketch plan to be done and
that's been completed for this upcoming
year may Valley Road and sr 900 so I
felt like it got addressed somewhere
else but if you want to call it out or
we emphasize it again you could
certainly do that well let me just say
my thinking is if somebody reads this
preamble someone in the legislature
reaches preamble everything's gonna
stack I would want to do anything that
makes them go what because 169 just is
an obvious and and 900 is it runs
through town and so I'm just thinking
about that the impact of this preamble
I real yes yes 900 is mentioned later I
definitely saw that about that were
those are my thinking's other than a
time I liked the idea was something I
was hoping to see so I like the fact
that there's a preamble that I like that
emphasis it's right up front you know
what we're reaching out for and this is
what we discussed with Doug so I'm glad
to see that sure Bob just a question
wondering I think it reads really well
as well as well I like it I think I
wonder if because of those comments it
needs a little bit more information such
as I like the word insufficient capacity
much much better but after highway 169
in highway 18 specifically saying to
relieve pressure off of a Sequoia Hobart
Road and adding State Route 900 because
that also makes a lot of sense but it's
sort of us trying to solve a different
problem or a piece of a different
problem so I actually like both those
changes I don't think they're huge
changes I think they make sense other
questions or discussion
all yeah I have another one down in the
autumn of the know what page it is
environmental natural resources that
part you added on land use growth
management housing so scroll down with
the one on the screen keep going yeah
that's what the paragraph he added at
the end there it says this across facing
mounting pressure due to growth
management and I think and I think so
that phrase itself due to growth
management is somewhat ambiguous I
wasn't sure what what exactly we were
trying to say or imply and then when you
presented it to us Bob you actually said
something was okay that's wasn't what I
was thinking I didn't know if that was
the intent so I think maybe some
clarification around that and I think
your comment earlier was some about
growth management and it's what its
we're talking about the overall
overarching growth management act and
different policies and what the county
has done with housing allocations and
all this stuff that we've done I think
you you made reference to what the the
statutes have kind of forced Issaquah to
do and I thought based upon the rest of
the sentence you were it was really more
about kind of growth in the sub region
around us was what the purpose of this
sentence was so you're come and confused
me a little bit more and and and so
there's that comment and do we and are
we really talking about growth
management and for this statement or is
it really about just overall growth and
specifically doing do we saying is
across facing mounting pressure due to
growing regional population and I would
even add rising housing costs and a lack
of regional transportation investments
Dada so instead of growth management I
just when I when I read it and I read
what I thought was the intent of it I
would suggest that we changed
growth management but again you guys
wrote it so tell me more of you thinking
pressure instead of pressure due to
growth management pressure due to
growing regional population and rising
housing costs that's my thought so
certainly we could get a little more
specific on that which addresses some of
the items that you just talked about the
comment that was made at the meeting was
in regards to the fact that we're just
essentially a thousand units short shy
of our 2030 growth targets and it's 2017
and that you know the the some of the
challenges being affiliated with growth
management and the growth management act
in combination with the lack of
investment by the state into the
regional transportation network are
causing some pretty significant issues
on land use so your comments I think
could enhance that because all those
things I mean the symptoms are all
across the boards rising housing costs
more traffic you know but they're all
related to the same kind of challenge
which is growth so if you'd like us to
be a little more specific on that we
could do that but that was based on what
we heard at the meeting that was kind of
the okay so one other thing that jumped
out at me so just the use of the phrase
growth management is I don't this is
going to Olympia and a lot of
legislators hopefully or at least
lobbyists will read it and others and
and it can be read as you know kind of
pressure due to growth management like
oh my gosh okay Issaquah is might be
ending up on the side of the ledger that
you know that we need to completely do
away with growth management because
there is that voice there is that caucus
in Olympia it just wants to do away with
GMA totally and I don't think that's
where we are and I don't think that's
the intent of this it's to correct it
and fine-tune it but not do away with
that and so just the way it says due to
growth management
I don't think that was our intent to
maybe add fuel to those that would want
to just do away with the growth
management act as opposed to maybe
making improvements so that that that
was another reason I those are the
thoughts that occur to me when I read
that
varalu I'm wondering if there's two
thoughts in here because I actually my
recollection from the meeting and I
didn't go back and watch the tape is
that this was a Itzik was specific
comment and not a comment yes or no for
growth management if you think that
needs to go in there more of a preamble
to this point that it's the core
supports growth management regionally
and supports the current growth
management act that would be fine but my
recollection from the meeting was that
this was misuk was owned itself for
growth yet will have received the
majority of its resident its is suppose
residential growth in 2018 or 19 without
the accompanying transit and
transportation improvements that may not
get here till twenty thirty one or
twenty forty two depending on which
improvement is you're looking for and
that that causes a enormous burden on a
community I think it has to do with the
fact that we still have zoning capacity
and can continue to add housing units
without any matching transportation
projects at the regional level so I
think a preamble might be a good idea so
that at least the comment is taken in
context but my recollection from the
meeting was that it was very focused on
within our city so appreciate that and
the I guess the later part that says a
lack of regional transportation
investments so that's not very specific
and I really wasn't sure what the
escopeta that was to me I thought when I
read this that it was kind of a partner
statement to the preamble it was that
scope of region not just about our own
more closed in that was my assumption
when I read that then that's why I was
saying that so if that's not the intent
you just kind of spun it like it was
more just us and so that's not the way
that came across to me so
maybe that clarification to begin so for
the purposes of advancing where we're at
this evening I agree with Paul that I
think somebody could read that as anti
GMA so I'd like to propose that we amend
the language and replace the phrase
growth management with the phrase
unprecedented regional housing demand
and then then the statement further bla
bla bla investments to support that
demand make sense you read the whole
sentence so it would then be Issaquah is
facing mounting pressure due to
unprecedented regional housing demand
and a lack of regional transportation
investments to support that demand I
think that more closely reflects and
would avoid any possible
misunderstanding about how about how we
feel about the GMA saying some heads nod
before we can emotion by going back to
Pauls of rigidly original discussion and
suggestions with the preamble I think he
made a couple one are connected by low
capacity age that insufficient I think
we may need to change the structure of
the sentence a little bit to get into
fit to say these ro highways have
insufficient capacity but and do you
have a suggested wording for that before
we get to emotion
okay so you went back there so what we
done with tolas suggestion I think I by
general I think we are okay so Bob did
you have an alternative using my
suggestions I'm sorry I didn't have one
typed out like Tola just did but I knew
you were working on something so I was
just making notes and that the hard part
is we're kind of having like we're the
council's acting is a work session at a
council meeting and so this is the first
time we've seen this link that's correct
no no I totally agree so what I was
thinking of doing was if the council I
think we've got the the gist of what the
council's saying on this and it just
needs a little bit of wordsmithing so if
this was we could either come up with
specific language tonight or if the
council was okay you know go back and
draft some language that accomplishes
what we further discussed this evening
you could adopt that and we could just
you know Minister ativ Lee make those
adjustments to accomplish what you're
saying so that's the note I had made on
here to deal with the insufficient
capacity the whole sentence may need
some slight modification but I think
that way you'd be able to adopt that
this evening and then we'd be able to
better convey I think what you were
trying to say no I think we could do
that this evening I like totals
rewording on that one and I'd like to
suggest this rewarding on the the
preamble so just that little switch here
to make it sound better in particular
those err urban areas in South East King
County connected by state and county
routes with insufficient capacity such
as highway 18 901 69 its that flop of so
it just reads grammatically these so it
makes sense surrounded by really good at
[Laughter]
okay so
make a motion Stacy sure I would move to
approve the 2018 legislative agenda as
revised and including the suggested
edits from tonight second moved and
seconded any additional discussion
seeing none then all those in favor of
approving the 2018 the legislative
agenda as revised and including
excluding the language discussed this
evening signify by saying aye I was
opposed well we made some sausage moving
to agenda bill 751 to council vacancy
process teenagers city clerk for staff
presentation hi thank you I'm just going
to pull up the council questions for the
interview that were proposed on the
agenda bill and then the submitted
questions that were received just prior
to the council meeting from Polly so
just give me a moment
mr. Baer I'm not sure all the council
members are aware that there was
something sent by emails I sent it so
late is it okay if I let them know that
they did send an email just before the
meeting that would be great because I
wasn't aware I know so I very late this
evening just before the meeting sent an
email that is in your inbox that Tina is
referring to that suggests five or six
either replacement questions different
questions not that you don't have more
that you might have any wait for a
discussion I just want to let you know
it was in your email that it was late so
the questions on the left are numbered
one through six those are questions that
we have used in past practice and again
the questions on the right I went ahead
and numbered them slightly differently
so that we wouldn't be confused by which
numbers that we were speaking to did you
want to speak to specific questions okay
this quickly I felt like having been
through the process a couple times
myself as well as some of the other
council members that may be our
questions might be a little bit dated
I'm pretty sure we all know what the
problems and not opportunities and
issues are now and after just having had
an election and a lot of door-knocking
that's even more fine-tuned and so I was
trying to look to see if I was a
resident and these people applying for
the vacancy we're knockin at my door
what would I want to hear from them and
so if you just ran for office you got
interviewed by 22,000 people and now if
you're running to fill a vacancy you're
gonna get interviewed by or you know so
I'm some sort of by Council which is
only six of us so imagine if it's coming
from the person whose door is being
knocked on what would they want to ask
these people that was sort of the lens I
put it through
okay well I went through this drill and
and you know I think the first one is
actually really good
just tell me that was so on everybody's
mind as we as we move forward what do we
do to not lose the essential Issaquah
character that is such a poor question
of sacis and and so I would I think that
would be great to give candidates the
opportunity to address that one second
one almost sounds like I can know what
you're getting at but it's it's almost
like a quiz tell me what this what the
role the city has that one is like
another variation on that
oh I'm not crazy about question B
because I think the schools do the best
they can to keep up with the demand and
I'm not sure that you would get
consistency from the seven of us as to
how we feel about we should whether and
to what extent we have a role in helping
the schools keep up with challenges in
front of them the other the other
question I would have is e and a Mary
Lou can you explain to me the difference
between an E and a because they seem
they like they have similarities and
okay a they both seem to be growth in
Issyk was essential character
yes I guess ease so residents quality of
and maybe actually they are the same
question slightly so one is what is its
close essential character each candidate
would then be able to or applicant I
guess would be able to talk about the
unique Issaquah characteristics not the
residents experience but we are hearing
about through the moratorium is then the
quality of life experience residents
having you know continuous construction
in their neighborhoods or difficulty
accessing or longer commutes or all the
rest of it so they one is the what makes
it's quite the community unique and each
applicant may have a different take on
that the other one is more the
day-to-day of people are saying it's
harder to live here and as we keep
growing and building it's difficult so
reduced quality of life so they could be
put together or we could just pick one
of them and you know they're just
slightly different I mean it honestly
you almost have to say
Toula what is it sack was the central
character yeah I mean I answer came to
your head when you were asked that well
how do you describe it suck was
character to other cities and council
members or when you're talking to them
what are we yeah I almost wonder if you
have one question that's how do you
handle growth in the other is what is it
was what makes this equator the
essential things that are important
about it well what do we maintain what
what are the things that we need to
maintain as a city and actually I'm
totally not a person who is in any way
married to what they write mm-hmm
everybody else can always say it better
than I can so you could do it's not take
this question or that you could change
it you can make it any way you want
yeah I would reconstitute those two
questions and and separate them out into
handling growth and what makes the city
you know
yeah I'm kinda in there A&E to me you
get into the same way so I only want one
of those or are coming your one combined
on those be I really don't like mixing
that school issue in right now is
doesn't fit in at all the one on the
other side that I think is missing I'd
like to keep in there I'm okay with you
know basically either way we go this way
if we got rid of being combined A&E I
would like to bring over number one
because anything that's essential why do
you want to serve on is Quad City
Council I think that's a good one so
that's my recommendation keep one
combined A&E somehow and get rid of B
and keep those ones on the right side
clarification mine were not substitute
questions they were supplemental this is
nothing when are you twelve or thirteen
questions two pivots that's that's
that's a lot I did not understand that I
was I was looking at new set of
questions versus an old set of questions
elemental Wow okay suggestion because
they excuse me but you're looking at
that way I mean there's there's a lot of
crossover when you're looking at those
so you have to you know kind of rewrite
the whole thing because as a person also
having gone through this when you have
questions that are similar and asking
you to answer them in a ten minute
presentation you add confusion to it I
would rather have five direct questions
than a dozen maybe I should just pick
five and and that's what I just kind of
did is when I said you combine eight any
or one of the other get rid of being add
one that gives you like five or six I
think if I'm counting right I think
that's a much better way than having too
many it makes it too confusing for the
applicant are there any questions that
there's consensus to delete or remove
should I put a strikethrough through B
or is there still discussion
okay okay
they make a suggestion on the old list
and I guess if you also went through
this process you may agree or disagree
but I really thought everybody answered
question before in the same way every
time
every person it really didn't really
help differentiate couldn't really
really help me not just to understand
that the Issyk was biggest opportunities
are issues I think we're there
I think we know it I would strike that
too so I would take reading for the list
if so I agree with you about for
everybody says I would listen well okay
all right I actually like three but I
might say other than traffic what you
consider basic was biggest opportunities
or issues because as you know I continue
to believe that workforce housing and
living wage jobs is actually pretty much
up there with traffic so I actually like
to see if there's other issues that
other people consider you know super
important but yeah if you just ask it
that way anybody want to give that
council is gonna say track yeah it's
basin
well I was just gonna if you wanted to
combine a and E he can just say Issaquah
has growing pains what can be done to
better manage these times of rapid
growth in a way that protects existing
residents quality of life and preserves
its akua's essential character good
editors tonight I can send it over just
so you can do the rest okay and that was
combining a and E yes and Scratchy and E
then for now too
a candle provided Stacey has the wording
it's a she can provide it proved okay so
see how many hours can you commit to
City Council so I guess that suggests
that you get to choose how many hours I
don't have that choice
it seems so I don't know I guess it
would reveal whether there's a
significant troubling gap in the
perception of what it takes but it's a
it's a one-word answer question so I'm
not I think a better question would be
can you describe your understanding of
the time commitment it takes to be on
city council to be a little bit more of
an explanation rather than it takes turn
oh about two hours eight hours yeah
could be we can simply ask them if
they're willing to give up their wheat
even she's a weekend's because it's
essentially what it becomes I like that
better but if they're willing to give up
their night to give up your life to be
actually number six under sort of gets
to and so my suggestion would be that
we've see into that because you'll get
more information from question number
six and probably an indication of
commitment out of that and and I really
grew you friend I think that um a lot of
people don't realize that and for
someone might be coming for a single
issue kind of thing you realize that it
is more than just the city of Issaquah
we're working with and constantly I
think that's where a lot of people miss
out so I do like question six to show
that there's much more commitment than
just being up here for city council
meetings as people don't listen to our
regional reports with a you know quite a
bit of attention until
I almost preferred D over what's the one
that says if you feel so for or for
replace for with D
[Music]
I like it because it's Diaz
community-centric and four is about but
if you don't all feel the same which is
Goods often
I'm not sure I'm fond of the word
about what criteria will you use to
decide how to vote on issues that divide
the community on on issues that usually
by the community
what was the first part of that what
criteria criteria would you use here
would you use make decision
when issues that divide the community
it's a suggestion
Oh replays for that was a suggestion
yeah did I put it in brackets as a
question mark
so are we looking to keep this at six
questions total or we should probably
decide what we're gonna we're gonna keep
them at six or are we gonna add to the
list and ask applicants to answer all of
the questions in ten minutes or ask them
to choose certain number of questions or
if you ask them to do that then you're
not necessarily get to compare our
answers question why can't we ask them
to answer these questions in writing and
then to present to us the what they
consider most important out of their
answers and we get to see what they
consider most important of all they
can't possibly do all of it and I agree
with Bill that when you get over five
questions they just don't have enough
time to do a good job so we've received
a lot of good comments this evening on
questions the motion is to approve the
process and timeline for filling the
vacancy there's the administrative work
that needs to be done and we have time
to try to refine the questions and
provide those I don't think we have to
decide on the questions this evening Oh
is there a motion on the floor not yet
I'll move then to approve the process
and timeline for filling the 2018
vacancy for position number three as
presented or as amended okay moved and
seconded
additional questions or discussion bill
well as presented it says recruitment
period starts November 22nd which is
Wednesday that means we do have to have
some sort of questions together if we're
gonna make that announcement and and so
I'm okay with you know somehow tweaking
these a little more the way we've been
doing that but the one big difference is
someone suggested and all the head nods
is that is different from the process is
have a response in writing to everything
and then the ten-minute presentation
they'll talk about whatever whatever all
those comments they think are those
responses are most important that's a
different process than what's been laid
out here and or what we've done
historically so you know that that says
is so how do you know two questions how
do we get that that modification here
where I think everybody wants and and I
think we need to have a little
additional time for someone to do the
word something on these questions as
we've been talking about tonight okay
you want to mend emotion
not sure how to look at this Latino
concern I was just gonna say Tino is the
appropriate thing to do either Paula
meant it as a Mendes own motion or
somebody else make a motion to amend the
process to include require written
answers I put down that that I heard
that as being a modification you can
vote on it or that you can just say
there's no objections so in that yeah so
in the packet there is Exhibit B
proposed questions so this is where we
go and it actually says in their
preparing for your interview and and and
so Tina just put some stuff up here so
if we want to do what's suggested I know
there has to be some finalization of the
questions but then this additional
modification then that would be an
amendment that would be a modification
to Exhibit B I think we should decide
what the questions are going to be
before we vote so that we all know what
they're gonna be okay so maybe should we
do thumbs up thumbs down on the
questions is so the first one two three
do we want to come include those three
one does it have to say in who will you
represent because that always gets the
same answer as well I like question one
do you like number one is also modified
and I'm not gonna hold off on one
because sometimes that may be critical I
mean because sometimes there's people
that have represent some things that
aren't the norm so I think it could be a
piece it could be nothing but I don't
I'd rather leave it in then take it out
so I'm gonna respectfully disagree bill
I've done this a whole bunch of times
and nobody ever says like I'm just gonna
represent Alice right I mean you know
maybe they said we represent the folks
who haven't been well represented but I
mean it's not know but you know nobody's
even say anything that's gonna allow us
to help differentiate I think but I
remember hearing some answers that were
pretty specific for some folks I've been
through it too on both ends so I don't
think it hurts it may if it doesn't give
us anything that's okay but I think
there's some some possibility there that
something might come up I suppose since
it's in writing they can choose how much
of their written response they want
answer eyes are not emphasized good
question for Tina Atilla just brought up
a point it's written so how do you
prevent getting a manifesto versus just
interested comments I would say please
limit answers to any question 250 words
how awesome okay because you just made
me think we might be reading manifested
okay I would say each question would be
150 words is 150 words what council
candidates get in the county
the the county materials okay so we have
number one what's proposed is to strike
who will you represent if you support
support striking that that then thumbs
up one two three go okay you said your
son's up Union say thumbs down an option
okay
the budget so it's so you know which way
to go right okay no we're gonna strike
that and how about number two ready
there was up or thumbs down that's a
keeper what do you consider to be is the
quest biggest opportunities or issues
and what would you do to address them
could I throw a modification pass down
that we're talking about these things
other than just that's a question but
after the comma just other than traffic
and development so because we don't want
a whole bunch on that we're getting that
on other issues so I'm trying to get to
those other issues of affordable housing
or those other issues I respectfully
disagree people want to know what was
your other proposal for development as
we're addressing traffic and development
I think in various other places okay so
is there a desire to thumbs up a thumbs
up means that you support adding the
language
one okay so no three four we're not
adding new language okay number from the
rest yeah number four proposes striking
number four so three you're good with
keeping thumbs up if you keep number
three is is this alright okay number
four proposes striking this question
altogether a thumbs up means you would
strike it okay number five do you
propose keep question five thumbs up is
to keep question five verse six
in addition to council committee
assignments council members each serve
on one or more regional board boards one
or more regional board or Commission
what are your views on serving
regionally in what areas would you like
to serve is originally what qualifies
you for that service and then the
bracketed there was a note that's a time
commitment there was a question if
describing your time would fall under
this or but if the question wasn't
resolved okay I think well I talked
about the time commitment I didn't think
it would go there I'm actually wondering
now that we have total suggestion of
we're gonna get all these written then
they get to pick what's most important
if we couldn't just have both of those
questions and not combine them and they
will decide what to talk to because
they're different okay so a thumbs up if
you if you want to keep number six all
right okay the last one so then the
proposed one proposal is to add a
question if Sequoia has growing pains
what can be done to better manage these
times of rapid growth in a way that
protects existing residents quality of
life and preserves its akua's essential
character so you're proposing that
replace a and
heeeeeyyyy yeah that's what I had
proposed combining a me yes person some
thumbs up means you're a new question
okay number see up there would propose
adding a question or yeah
describe your understanding of the time
commitment related to serving on city
council filling your obligations in or
related to look at yet fulfilling your
obligations I don't know what do you
wanna say
yeah you know the understanding of the
time commitment required to fulfill your
obligations
that's a council member required yeah
after commitment required to fulfill
your obligations as a council member
that's good yeah like fulfill fulfil
yeah sorry the other fulfil
as a council member
[Music]
okay if you support adding that question
thumbs up numbered D is a proposal that
says a criteria what would you use to
make decisions on issues that divide the
community
which question are you on are you on the
first part of D or the satyr part of
that part the replace language isn't
that almost I mean there's going to be a
lot of decisions to be made and there's
going to be different criteria for all
of it so just a snapshot criteria is
very specific to me I'm having a problem
with that word yeah I understand the
point is just the word criteria yeah
maybe I'll take a stab at explaining
what the intent was I know look into
your thought process you know right yes
right person good answer it generally
this criteria or their lens or filter
for every decision or they may pick out
one or two and specifically describe in
this situation this is my lens I using
that so trying to see what criteria they
use I the way it's written now I think
it gives them the leeway to of a broader
lens or to be given something specific
how about we trade trade criteria for
process process is different to me
criteria is you're really it's kind of a
value that you have that you use that
you bring to the table when you're
evaluating something in a process to me
is you do this first and then you do
this and then you do not yeah I was just
thinking simply the word how would you
make decisions mm-hmm because if they
start talking about values then that's
what you were looking for right
would you how would you make decisions
on issues that did strike what criteria
the place with how did lead use how
would you make decisions on issues that
divide the community and it says to be
specific so if comes up if you would
like to add this question we need be
specific I mean you're asking every
questions here and everything so I don't
know could be words yeah why do we need
anything I'm kind of nervous that
somebody might do a motherhood
everything for the best interest of the
community and you know so be specific to
me it can be general but if others are
specific in their answers when we put
them side-by-side when you know what
you're getting the other is just a
motherhood statements oh well I don't
mind having to be specific do you want
to add be specific to the to the intro
actually you know that's a great
question this to me as a council member
sitting up here and listening to on
behalf of the rest of the community this
to me was one where I being specific was
the most important so I'm worried if we
put it up atop we might end up with a
motherhood answer for this one so this
is my time
I'm ok with it just seems I wanted to be
specific on every question but I'm okay
with leaving I'm fine
you guys ready to vote on that one well
it comes up if you want the new
okay I have a question oh there's more
there's a Toller question there I think
there are a lot of applicants I think
all of the answers and all of the hard
work that's ahead of us we'll know what
to do this ecause becoming increasingly
affordable what can be done to change
this trend higher you know Atilla it's
from the community that is snuck right
up there behind traffic and growth ready
did Mike show support or not I was up to
at it okay all right last one how can
how can the council better encourage
more citizens to provide their inputs
lots of inputs we had a very long
question here and then I backed off to
this this is just going back to hearing
that community well from the council
site community engagements important to
us we did the neighborhood engagement
program we're trying trying trying to
get more voices to come to the table
during election season hearing that it's
still really hard you participate that
it's still really hard if you feel
passionate about an issue to track it
all the way through becomes a part-time
job for some degree so that's the long
version of that short question so I
think the by saying specifically the
City Council if you really know kind of
the it's it's oh this is one where the
City Council and the administration
absolutely came together so I would just
say City I would disagree
because I think there are specific
things that council members do in their
in their roles on committees as a chair
and you know we get emails sweet share
committees we we are we are responsible
ourselves for how we engage with the
public and how we may or may not be
encouraging engagement so about a
two-part how can the city and council so
that they can answer both ways
but but these questions our first city
council person and I can't tell the
mayor how to engage directly so I think
it's okay to say City Council at this
point that's what we're working with I'm
okay with leaving it yeah I agree with
you the concept is there and we're going
to work together but at this point I'm
okay with city council okay
and the council encouraged more citizens
to an age with the council or engage
with the city that's I would go in a
slightly different direction I would say
how can the how can the City Council
better solicit and incorporate citizen
feedback in other words it's not it's
not us encouraging come on bring us here
you know bring us your feedback it's
like we should create mechanisms to
engage the community the
responsibilities on us not on the
citizens so I'm thinking about this a
little bit and I'm also thinking that
that at this point I'm not sure I like G
because we're kind of getting it seems
to me we're getting off track here
it's almost say like we know we have I
don't know a lot of questions and I'm
sundown I don't I'm not sure I'm wild
about this one
right now if I make a comment and saying
yeah I think with experience what to do
right here kind of grows with somebody I
think coming in cold this would be it's
probably a pretty difficult one to you
really know what's best
because when Stacey was talking a moment
ago I was thinking aim fulfilling your
duty as a council member what would you
do you know that's that's that would be
amazing
if they can give a good answer so I've
been favored of leaving it out
oh I don't throw one of the point just
to think about I'm okay but I think this
gets to the point of that person then
becoming an elected official in that
role without having run to understand
that it is an elected official position
and they should have you know had if
they hadn't run they would have had some
sort of engagement and process that
would help them answer this question so
I have I think it's good to leave it in
I'd prefer to leave it in but I'm not
gonna fight over let's just let's just
bums it
I guess I don't only ask if very low as
the author of the proposed G other your
thoughts on maybe we're what we might be
missing in the reason for you suggesting
it
I actually really found what bill just
said completely compelling this is an
opportunity to serve your community but
you don't campaign to do it you miss out
on a huge connection opportunity that
well that's not true some people who
apply may have campaign I take that back
I walk that back a little bit but it it
does I agree with Paul that until you
sit here maybe you don't know how to do
this or not
I'm interested to hear what they're
thinking some of them may point out the
fact that their community experience II
that they currently have has given them
a lot of opportunities to already engage
and I'd kind of like to know that you
know instead of just I I sit on this
Commissioner I'm on my homeowners board
maybe we'll find out that somebody's out
there really connecting in ways that we
don't even though they didn't go through
a campaign and we'll hear about it I I'm
convinced very much by what bill said
that I I like the question still I'd
like to keep it in we don't quite know
what the question is it because we're
what's all yeah
[Music]
so the question how can the City Council
better encourage more citizens to
provide the thoughts and input are the
same so this is the one that I'm
suggesting how can the City Council
better solicit and incorporate community
feedback with that
incorporates what we have to do
I say thumbs up or thumbs down on the
second wording of that merely woody is
the author what do you think of it I'm
fine with both so thank you would it be
different
it's fine I think
yeah I like the second one better I
think let's vote on the second one do
you that's good
look in the City Council better slit and
incorporate community feedback thumbs up
if you want it
[Music]
right no I just
it is the next step to vote on the
motion
okay are you ready to vote on the motion
every question sure and are we clear
that the instruction is going to be that
they choose 10 minutes their 10 minute
presentation is highlighting the parts
of this that they consider most relevant
to their their the wording that I added
and it can be tweaked it just as
respondent writing to the following
questions limit to 150 words per
question of present to counsel the areas
that are most important to you
during the 10 minute interview the
presentation presentation there is a
motion that has been seconded we've had
a very interesting discussion are you
ready to vote on the motion all those in
favor for proving the process and
timeline fulfilling the 2018 vacancy of
position 3 as amended signify by saying
aye aye sounds like that's unanimous any
opposed
seeing none then that concludes our
regular business item we have a short
executive committee meeting to discuss
pending and potential litigation no
action is anticipated to follow an open
session
[Music]
you
we are back in regular session coming
out of an executive session no action is
anticipated
the next item is there anything for good
of the order this evening seeing none
then we are adjourned
you