um good evening I'm council member Chris
Ray and with me as Deputy council
president uh Hall and councilmember D
Michelle
uh I'm going to call the June 13th 2023
city council mobility and infrastructure
committee to order
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each of the agenda items for public
comment
so with that let's get into the agenda
today
we have two agenda items today ID 1353
the transit study Gap analysis and ID
1414 Street standards update
um so the first thing on the agenda
though is approval of the minutes from
our May 19 our ninth meeting
uh I believe we accept the minutes from
the May 19th meeting
all right all those in favor of
approving minutes from May 9th meeting
say aye aye opposed
that minutes have been approved
all right on to our first agenda item
today which is uh the transits study Gap
analysis presented by Thomas Valdez
um
Valdez aldres sorry our senior
Transportation planner Thomas take us
away
great thanks very much uh yeah I really
appreciate your time tonight
um
and uh yeah good after good sorry good
evening my name is Thomas valdrez and
I'm the city's senior Transportation
planner
um today I will be asking for your
feedback uh related to the transit study
gaps analysis and so to begin I'll
briefly uh start by sharing some
background information on the existing
conditions analysis that we've done for
this study
and we'll talk about what the transit
Network looks like today and what we can
expect in the future
I'll then walk through a subset of the
deficiencies that were identified as
part of our gaps analysis and then I'll
ask for your feedback
so as we go through this presentation
tonight I just wanted to pause here and
share with you the two questions that
I'm hoping to get your feedback on
this first question is should the city
consider providing alternative bus stop
amenities or a local high priority stops
if Metro has determined
that improvements are not justifiable or
a low priority per Metro criteria
and the second question that I would
hope that you would consider is where
meaningful improvements can be made to
enhance the speed and or reliability of
high quality Transit service
should the city consider the Strategic
use of Transit priority treatments near
signalized intersections
so again just consider those as I go
through and please feel free to
interrupt me if clarification is is
needed
um as I progress through this
uh just to again to provide a little bit
of background information just to sort
of ground our conversation attachment a
in your packet contains the existing
conditions analysis that was conducted
for the transit study and so there's a
whole lot of information lots of good
stuff here but briefly I just wanted to
share some of the more uh important
topics that sort of came out of it just
to sort of facilitate this conversation
and so as you can see this first key
takeaway is that the average Issaquah
commuter tends to drive to work alone
but there are several commuters who have
jobs that allow them to work from home
or many others are choosing to take
alternative modes of transportation such
as writing Transit carpooling walking
Etc
and some more background information
this is a map of the current uh Transit
Network here in isquot today
we have nine routes three of them the
269 the 271 and the 554 these run all
day and provide frequent service this
means that buses come every 30 minutes
or better
uh five of the other routes they they
operate only during the weekdays during
the peak commute hours so these are
really meant to just hit uh when when
there's more ridership making sure that
there's
um you know space on buses making sure
that people can get to and from uh
typically their work and and their home
and then this other route is the 208
this runs all day but headways are about
two hours and this one goes out to North
Bend area
so other services that are provided
currently there's the trailhead connect
direct route this operates seasonally
and on weekends a lot of folks from the
area take this to go hiking
um and there's also Paratransit and
specialized transportation services that
are offered by some providers in the
area
another Insight from the existing
conditions analysis that I wanted to
share is related to access
and just to provide a little bit of
background information on how we're
defining access
so uh Transportation planners
Transportation Engineers
rely on this idea of a walk shed a bike
shed and a drive shed so what is that
essentially a walk shed is defined and
this is based off of studies that have
taken place over the last 40 years
so a a Transit Rider is generally
willing to walk about a quarter mile to
access a bus stop or about a half mile
to access Light Rail so in North America
these are just generally accepted
standards so that's sort of what we
consider as the walk shed
uh Transit Riders are also willing to
bike about a mile to access Transit and
Transit riders that are driving to a
Transit stop typically are willing to
drive about two and a half miles to
access Transit
so all that to say these these distances
can be used as proxies for measuring
accessibility this is sort of the the
industry standard for how things uh are
done in a very quick and efficient way
so considering these uh you know high
level metrics uh currently about 17 of
households in Issaquah and 19 of jobs
are within walking distance of Transit
and so this is also it's also worth
noting that these very simplified
metrics for measuring accessibility they
really don't take into consideration
um you know barriers that could exist
accessing Transit so if the sidewalk is
incomplete for example or if
or if there's some terrain issues so
like you know if it's a very steep
direction to get from say your home to a
Transit stop those would not be sort of
considered in this simplified version
but all this to say we we can glean from
this analysis that for the most part
folks in this quad don't currently have
uh they're they're not within walking
distance of a bus stop so that's sort of
uh
not very surprising but the numbers do
do tell us that
and so again uh more more background
information to Anchor our conversation
tonight uh
we also uh you know we took a look
at holistically where people are
traveling
um today our analysis found that the
majority of trips are starting and
ending in Issaquah so lots of Intercity
trips
um over 50 percent
uh the second and third most common
trips are occurring between Issaquah and
Bellevue and between Issaquah and
Northern East Side cities so places like
Sammamish Redmond Kirkland et cetera
and currently uh traveling by public
transit is no surprise uh it you know it
takes significantly longer than it does
to drive
however as you can see in this
infographic if you see there's some
lighter lighter yellow bars indicating
that the transit and auto time ratio so
considering the time it takes to take
Auto versus Transit is actually quite
competitive so that's kind of cool to
see
um
so there are there are some routes that
are very competitive when you're taking
a bus and that uh narrowing that Gap is
really important um it's it's one of the
more important factors when considering
um if folks are willing to
take a bus or or if they will drive
which is typically the default so
knowing that Gap is really important uh
when uh trying to get folks running
transit in the city
so looking towards the future
the city is anticipating most of its
growth to occur between now and 2050 in
central Issaquah
and we're anticipating that travel
patterns will remain about the same as
they are today so again the majority of
trips being inter-city and then we also
expect trips between East Side cities
and Issaquah to remain the second and
third most frequent Origins and
destinations
and as we look to the the near term uh
I did want to mention so last month
Metro has announced that there will be
cutting service to three of the nine bus
routes that I described and this will
begin in September
uh the routes are the 214 the 216 and
the 217.
and sort of the reason for this is that
Metro has explained uh they're they're
dealing with some some significant
Staffing and labor shortages which is
resulting uh in lack of bus drivers lack
of staff to sort of help with the routes
that we have
um and so obviously we we really don't
uh we don't want to see our services
being cut in Issaquah we we really value
our Transit service however the three
routes that they are cutting
ridership is currently very low and
there are some alternative transit
services provided these routes and I'll
just go back in my slide deck a couple
slides
um these routes are the peak only routes
so they are of those five routes that
run on weekdays during the peak commute
hours three of those five are the ones
that will not
um be returning
um
after September and so we we certainly
don't want to see that uh them being cut
however ridership is currently low and
uh there are quick question for you
um do you have any data on what um
Metro ridership from Issaquah is day
versus pre-pandemic levels
you know on top of my head I don't have
it but I can tell you it is lower than
it was pre-pandemic yeah I'm certainly
lower I mean is it yeah I mean and I I
we can get the number later but you have
a sense is it 10 lower is it 50 lower is
it a big number Stephen
jump in it's um seem to do a long-range
planning managers I work with
Thomasville trying to study the data
that we've seen it kind of depends on
the route so the 554 experience
significantly less drop of ridership
compared to a lot of the other smaller
routes that don't provide the same type
of service so it kind of depends on
which route we're looking at
all right thanks Andrea did you wanna
I do believe that overall it is
um somewhere around 15 decline overall
thanks sorry thank you Thomas
that's great thanks for that
clarification
um yeah so you know again uh
these routes are uh
as as much information as we know at
this time these routes will not be
coming back and you know we certainly
don't want to see them being cut however
uh
you know
there are some significant Staffing
shortages so Metro's trying to do the
best that they can
um to sort of combat this and so uh the
cities you know we find that this is
very important to uh you know everybody
that you know comes to the city folks
that are currently using it and we
really want to help Metro uh make sure
that they're communicating these service
Cuts so you know City Community the
city's communication team We're working
directly with Metro to ensure that you
know that these changes are going to be
communicated to those who are affected
um some of the things that Metro will be
doing is posting notices uh on the buses
that are affected as well as at the bus
stops as well so physical posting of
signage the city also is working
directly with them to communicate this
via you know our typical Communications
channels we also work directly with a
lot of
you know community-based organizations
and this information is being related to
them as well so we're doing what we can
to communicate these changes and that's
sort of um where we're at with
these uh service suspensions and so I
just have a question here
president Hall oh thank you yeah just
just to clarify then for the community
watching so we should be interpreting
this as complete as it cuts like will
not be coming back because the packet
used the words temporary reduction in
service or suspension and even the word
suspension makes it seem like
maybe they did something wrong like in
school and they'll be coming back
um so just for the sake of transparency
for the community this we should be
interpreting this as complete a complete
cut right
yeah great question and I I can clarify
with the very next slide if you don't
mind I can I can I can come back to this
if there's additional clarification
perfect
um great okay
um and so to sort of uh follow through
on what I was just saying uh East link
connections this uh this is the planned
implementation of the service changes
that will be happening as as Light Rail
comes uh to to Redmond right so uh Light
Rail will be coming from Seattle to uh
through Mercer Island uh connecting
Bellevue and Redmond
um Metro is teeing up the bus service
that will be facilitating uh connections
to each of those Light Rail stations and
so uh the the idea is that in 2025
um these routes were actually going to
go away already
um so what we're seeing here uh through
this announcement is essentially a
premature cut of three routes that would
be
reconsolidated and the the funding the
Staffing all that all the resources that
would go into that the idea is that that
would go back into the system
we are anticipating that the routes that
we will have so we'll have six routes
after
um
after this uh the routes that we will
have come 2025 Metro has uh has promised
that uh the service that we will have
will be significantly better headways
will be shorter on many routes they'll
be more buses running uh it'll be faster
they're um I think they're they're
making some measures to make overall the
the transit system uh in the 2025
Network should run smoother than it is
today so those those just sort of
wrapping up that thought those three
routes will be going away as part of
Eastlink connections however they're
just sort of prematurely cutting it
before we get light rail so in in the
interim that is the rub there and and
thank you Thomas and I just want to uh
also say this is Andrea Snyder I also
say that Metro was calling these uh
suspensions they're not calling them
permanent Cuts so that's the terminology
they're using we're looking ahead with
our crystal ball understanding the
challenges that Metro is facing
regarding personnel and other resources
understanding these uh Transit changes
that will come with Eastlink and we're
thinking that
we these these routes will probably not
come back in the form that we're used to
we will be getting other Transit service
so Metro's calling it suspensions
they're not saying they're Cuts uh but I
think it would be wise for us to look
ahead and and consider them as
essentially cut but knowing that we will
be getting a better Transit service once
the East link connection is up and
running
are you good there Deputy Council
um how realistic is that we're going to
see East Lincoln 2025 given recent
developments on the Mercer Island
Floating Bridge
so you're asking City of Issaquah
employees uh we uh we are not Metro
employees we are not sound transit
employees uh if we were to ask Sound
Transit and Metro they would say this is
their best plan I think
um
you know I think that there's ongoing
challenges they have not only with the
construction of uh the light rail itself
but also certainly the Personnel that is
required to really fully Implement all
of these service changes
some things and I and I think it quite
honestly I it's an unfair question to
ask you but I think it's a significant
data point for us in in figuring out how
we go forward so thanks for that
Thomas you're back on
great thank you
um so just to look even further into the
future
um from what we were talking about today
um you know as we as we do look out uh
Sound Transit has uh sort of quoted us
on um a timeline of about 2041 uh
to 2044 for light rail coming to
Issaquah and so 2044 is sort of like the
um
the the budget friendly one versus 2041
is a more aggressive timeline obviously
um so this is sort of the the timeline
that we're looking at for um
we're bringing Light Rail to Issaquah
with the four line which is that purple
line
um and so you know you can see it's
connecting South Kirkland through
Bellevue and uh to the central Issaquah
area
and so in this timeline the the four
line would be connecting uh also three
stride uh bus Rapid Transit lines
um and so that's the S1 the S2 and the
S3 which are connecting from Linwood
um over through like Kirkland Bellevue
and all the way to Burien so lots of
really
um really strong Transit connections
coming in the future and so we're sort
of um you know just just providing uh
this background information as we
consider uh what we're talking about
tonight
and to support the future Transit
Network that is expected we really need
to uh be talking about
um
where where people will be will be going
and so the expectation is that half of
Issaquah residents and the majority of
jobs in isqua will be within walking
distance of Transit by 2050 that is
because we are anticipating uh growth in
the central Issaquah area
and we also anticipate
um you know the majority of jobs the
majority of households will be within
biking and driving distance to Transit
um and so this is sort of uh using land
use projections and uh Transit demand
modeling so this is uh this table sort
of encapsulates uh what we assume will
be in terms of growth in the central
Isco area and the the city uh as a whole
uh by 2050 and sort of the the watcha
the bike shed and the drive shed that we
can uh assume it's a good question about
this table
um and I'm not questioning it well I
guess I am questioning it but are there
really 31 000 jobs in Issaquah
because that's the way I'm reading this
number
because that seems really high to me
no that is the number that is the number
that we have for 2019. I think that also
is um folks that work from home
um yeah I this is straight from the U.S
census so I can't really speculate on
okay uh you know how this how this
breaks down but yeah yeah that just
seems like like
order of magnitude High to me
no uh certainly not order of magnitude
uh back when I was in Economic
Development and keeping a close eye on
these numbers several years ago we were
at 25 000 jobs
uh so I'm not surprised that a few years
later we're up at 31 000.
okay
learn something new every day it's good
okay I think I'll keep going
um and so now uh you know all this
background where I think we're now ready
to talk about the potential gaps that
were identified through this analysis
but again feel free to um you know
interrupt my my uh
my presentation I'm you know happy to
field any additional questions as we go
through
um so to reiterate a point that I think
I've made in this presentation and I
think you know we all know this but just
again to ground us
um the city does not provide Transit
Service uh however there are some stuff
there's some things that the city can do
to improve Transit service that is
provided by uh Metro and Sound Transit
and so one of the gaps that we've
identified uh is the lack of essential
uh you know very basic amenities that
are provided at bus stops and to sort of
speak generally on this matter
Metro has criteria that dictates whether
or not they would be willing or not to
uh
for instance install a bus shelter and
so 25 daily writers uh you know on the
average
is sort of the threshold for if a if a
bus stop is uh
is capable of having a metric provided
bus shelter
and
so you know as you can see here this is
over uh in the The Very Room that you
all are in this is the the bus bus stop
there's currently you know very little
uh for folks that are waiting at that
bus stop so that's sort of just you know
one example of what some bus stop
amenities are provided
um
and
you know the city hasn't done a whole
lot of thorough analysis to determine
you know which bus stops would be uh you
know potentially within Metro's criteria
or not but um just as an example uh
county-wide we are told by Metro that
over 375 bus stops would qualify for a
Metro provided bus shelter and currently
Metro is only installing 25 shelters per
year
uh so one could do the math and you
would see that there is a significant
backlog of shelters that currently meet
uh you know Metro's criteria however
they they don't have the the resources
to go out and
um you know provide the shelters that
they've determined are are worthy of of
being input
and so some of the upgrades uh that they
have put in uh they're they're really
prioritizing because they they do have
limited resources uh these
prioritizations are typically based on
things like demographics Equity access
to community services and other sorts of
considerations
um so all this to say uh the question
that we have for you today and is that
you know considering the need for but
basic amenities at bus stops should the
city consider alternative needs of
providing bus stop amenities for local
and I'll call them high priority stops
if Metro has determined that
improvements are not justifiable or are
a low priority per Metro criteria
um and so some of the things that the
city can do to improve bus stops could
include coordinating with Metro on
Capital Improvement projects near bus
stops we can make these bus stops
shelter ready so you know Metro would
have the the concrete footings available
to them and they could simply throw a
you know standard uh you know they have
multiple standards for for bus shelters
they could just swap it in when
um you know after after that work is
done
um this would be a very cost effective
way of doing it um you know if if the
city is currently out there um you know
for example uh you know in this photo if
if we were redoing for example uh the
sidewalk and the the
um the concrete is already wet we could
you know install some footings we could
sort of streamline the permitting for
them uh in a way that you know if the
city is already doing it we would
already know the processes we could sort
of work with them to get it done so
there's there's some efficiencies we
could do with that another example uh is
that you know through uh
through uh development projects we could
support buildings having awnings that
would you know have like a waiting area
for for Transit passengers um that's
fairly common in my neighborhood
um it's just like a quick way that uh
some some cities are able to provide
rain coverage without like a physical uh
Transit shelter so there's there's quite
a few things to consider we haven't
really done a full analysis on this but
these are just sort of like some of the
thoughts that we've had very preliminary
thoughts at this time right I've got a
question for you councilmember Hall
thank you
um so with the idea be that we could
shelter ready some of these
opportunities or some of these bus stops
and would we jump higher in the list of
qualifying stations for Metro or would
we still be waiting
a while for that to end up
I mean making some nods here in the room
hold on Thomas
uh let me attempt that and and Thomas I
just also want to take the opportunity
to note that there's a lot of slides
still left in the presentation and time
is is taking so as you consider your
remarks for the next few slides perhaps
we could
um uh summarize them and go a little
quicker so uh the city would still be
responsible for the costs of these uh
Transit amenities until Metro until they
meet Metro's criteria so we can make it
easier for them to install
um but Metro has some pretty strict uh
criteria for putting in these amenities
as Thomas was saying there's a large
backlog a lot of communities want them
and so we can we can make it a little
bit easier for them we can make it a
little you know but we can make it a
little bit less expensive for them but
overall we might be waiting a long time
good yeah thanks all right
great I'll keep going then thanks
um
and so yeah just to provide more
information uh this is what the tab said
about it and to summarize the tab was in
favor of considering alternative means
they also recommended that the city be
more specific developing eligibility and
prioritization criteria if we were to
consider pursuing alternative means of
getting bus stop amenities
they also recommended considering ways
that we could
um
provide the bus shelter using means that
was not City funds if there's ways to
have Partnerships or to sort of think
outside the box for ways to uh you know
get um
get amenities that would be great they
also recommended that we could consider
Place making some sort of design
features that would make it more of an
issqua feel for Metro
uh shelters and amenities so those are
just sort of uh what the tab had um had
mentioned at a at a very high level
so next I wanted to
ask you about Transit speed and
reliability projects
um
and so for our second policy question
for you uh you know as you know buses
can become significantly delayed at or
near signalized intersections
and although the city doesn't provide
Transit service there are some things we
can do to make strategic Investments to
make Transit uh you know flow easier
through intersections Transit priority
treatments can reduce Transit delay
improve Transit reliability and can
reduce Transit travel time
and so one example of this is provided
in your packet is a business access and
transit or bad Lane these are very
common in the area an example of this
you may have seen it is on sr900 near
the uh
near the freeway
um
there's also many examples on the east
side and these these Lanes typically
allow for right turning vehicles to
access businesses and sometimes bikes
can use them depending on the context
but it's really providing a priority
Lane for buses so that they can flow
through
intersections and potentially congestive
areas a little bit quicker
another common type is called a q jump
and these are these can be used
essentially with the bat Lane as well so
these are not sort of uh you know they
can be using with other treatments
and this basically gives a bus a head
start through an intersection and you
can see on the graphic passengers are
able to get on the bus the bus gets an
early green a couple seconds before
traffic just gives them a couple extra
seconds to get through the intersection
before everybody else the delay is
really not that significant and it
allows a bus to significantly reduce
their travel time through especially
really congestion corridors
uh lastly I wanted to talk about Transit
signal priority you may have heard this
as we were talking about the intelligent
transportation systems or its this is a
pretty typical application of that and
so as you look through the numbers on
this slide you can see you know the bus
comes through the intersection it sends
a a message to the hardware so that's
like number three it sends a message uh
telling the hardware that it's currently
there and then the intersection it can
give the bus like an extended green or
it can dynamically adjust the traffic
signal to allow the bus to make it
through the intersection so it's not
stuck right there and this is a map of
where they're currently located I think
this is maybe an older map but they're
all over Bellevue along the um the brt
line that goes out east so that's like
the the line B so very common in the
area it's another way that buses are
prioritized through some intersections
and so you know understanding that the
city isn't providing the transit service
but we have the ability to make
strategic Investments uh to
significantly improve Transit service
that we do have
um and you know knowing that the
proposed Solutions uh would be uh we
really only look at this from a holistic
analysis and so that we don't want to
necessarily uh impact any other travel
modes below what we consider as being a
reasonable the level of service the
question that we're proposing to the
committee is um you know where
meaningful improvements can be made to
enhance the speed and reliability of
high quality Transit service should the
city consider the Strategic use of
Transit signal sorry of Transit priority
treatments through signalized
intersections
and the same question was posted the tab
last month and to summarize the tab was
in favor of using priority treatments
they recommended that the city consider
rolling out improvements along
alongside future its projects it's a
pretty typical application they also
recommended starting with low hanging
fruit treatments first so things that
are you know easier to implement
uh and also to consider ways to mitigate
potential impacts so that we're assuring
that these improvements wouldn't degrade
the level of service of other
Transportation modes below what we're
considering acceptable
so I will pause here uh to receive your
direction thank you well let's uh let's
see if we have any additional questions
councilmember Hall
um yeah a couple more um first thank you
for answering my questions over email I
might ask a few of them in this format
too just so they're shared on camera as
well but
um one clarifying question I had was um
so part of tabs feedback the
transportation advisory board's feedback
was to consider low-hanging fruit
treatments I'm just curious if we
thought about what what our low-hanging
true or low hanging fruit treatments
have we kind of thought through what
those might be already or is that that
work to come
yeah I would say that's more work to
come I think when we're developing
projects those um
those would become apparent uh
I I really I would imagine a low hanging
fruit uh opportunity would be paint on
the ground versus like a traffic signal
sort of thing
um if that makes sense that's that's
what I would imagine that would be a low
hanging fruit yeah no
um also what kind of um have we thought
through like the kind of resources that
we have or willing to kind of dedicate
to do these kinds of
efforts yeah or is that also work
yeah I would say at this point Thomas
let me get this one thank you uh so this
is Andrea Snyder Deputy council
president Hall uh that is really a
question that we are we are asking uh
the policy question first and so if we
if Council tells us this is a priority
that it's a something that the city
should be doing then we would return to
council with our resource requests in
order to get this done but certainly uh
maintenance of Transit stops is going to
require ongoing staff time ongoing
resources
um so some something to consider as you
consider this policy question before you
tonight
okay thank you that's very clear
um
can you talk a lot I asked you this over
email can you talk a little bit more
about like what kinds of public-private
Partnerships we can explore like kind of
what's our lane here that
like I'm envisioning a stop brought to
you by Costco chicken bake or something
like that but like I mean are these
kinds of things available to us or are
there kind of stringent guidelines from
Metro in terms of like the kinds of
Partnerships we can do
yeah that's a great question again
um
my understanding is that Metro has uh a
advertising firm that they work through
and so some of the considerations that
you know this is kind of getting into
the weeds a little bit but
um
providing a metro
uh providing amenities that are like
Metro spec is really important because
they will not maintain anything that is
not what they currently have
um they have standards for everything so
we would want to put things uh that they
are comfortable maintaining or that
thank you you know that makes I'm glad
that I asked the question there because
we don't want to create any
liability that we have to to maintain
into the future so okay that's that's
really good to know
um
yeah and just just to add my thought and
to answer your question so that that is
one main consideration
um I do know that they do advertising
that is something that you know they
have on the buses and they have at the
shelters they also have um artwork that
they do at some shelters so there are
ways to customize
um
the amenities are provided but certainly
uh we would want to know what Metro was
comfortable with
again to just make sure that uh
we are we are not uh you know receiving
something that we don't want to uh
or maybe that we don't uh want to um you
know add an additional effort to
um we certainly want to you know if we
were to go down this road uh we would
want to partner with Metro
um so that it's a it's a good uh working
relationship
um
some other ideas that were you know
passed around by the tab is working with
community-based organizations
um but again that's sort of uh
it is it is possible that uh you know we
would just want to make sure that Metro
is on board with whatever we're doing so
just
um
yeah hopefully that answers your
question and there's some coordination
efforts that could be done with the city
um just you know through Capital
Improvement projects
um but yeah again like the advertising
bid uh I don't know what the city what
level of uh
of information the city would need to
provide for that and I think we would
need more information to um to fully
answer that question let's move on from
that one uh council member D Michelle
you have a question oh well just moving
on from uh the previous question
um
when we were talking about Partnerships
I had different
um idea in mind and that was the
placement because some businesses might
say we'd love to have a bus shelter like
QFC for example or some major business
that's doing uh retail would say we'd
love to have a bus shelter in front of
our door now can you make the bus come
down the road to us and and actually
when I was on the board and at work and
this was many many years ago but they
did work with Metro to not only get a
bus shelter uh close by for their people
with disabilities that came to outwork
but Metro actually did change the route
in order to bring the bus there so
that's kind of the working Partnerships
that I was envisioning and that that we
may have some businesses in town that
would very much appreciate having a bus
shelter right in front of their business
and and again that would be a lot of
negotiation with with Metro so
right any other questions
that's okay we're going to let you go
this time because it's been that kind of
day
all right
um so I don't have any questions myself
so we have another opportunity for
public comment uh clerk do we have
anybody online who's
expressed an interest in making uh
public comment you can
um press star three or look for hand
icon on your device to indicate a desire
to speak
we have no virtual attendees at this
time well that probably means no no
virtual hands no no okay so we're gonna
move on and uh just let's get to the two
questions which is should we consider
alternative bus stop amenities and uh
uh where meaningful improvements can be
made to enhance the speed end or
reliability of the transit service
should we consider those sorts of
treatments so I would like to get us
started
we can
I know
I have lots of notes in here but
not the day that we get to do that
um so for the first question I would yes
I would love to have us move forward to
consider the possibility of providing
um uh you know bus stops and and other
amenities for our bus riders
we are unfortunately far below Metro's
criteria for providing those kinds of
things and it will be a long long time
before we begin to get even at the
bottom of their list so I think we have
to start looking at how do we as a city
encourage people to take transit
and I've used the bus stop out here and
um you know the one without the without
the shelter and yeah it's difficult when
you're standing there and it's raining
and and you're thinking I've got a car I
could just hop in my car and and go
where I want to go so however there are
I mean a couple of things I think we
need to think about is uh is the cost it
would be
how much money are we willing to sink
into this
um I think the design I'm thinking of
all the different neighborhoods we have
we certainly want to be be looking at
how each bus shelter fits into its
community and its neighborhood
and then the other thing and again this
is an example from a long time ago but I
am aware of communities that have
provided bus shelters and then
the good thing about bus and Transit is
that it is flexible and it can move to
meet the needs changing needs of a
community and when you've placed a bus
shelter that makes a little bit more
difficult to change the route it's just
one of those those things so we have to
think about is the location that we're
choosing and that would be one of the
criteria that we could consider when
we're looking at at getting into this uh
is are we sure that that location is
going to be a location that's going to
be used for it makes sense that it's
going to be used for a long long time
into the future so those are just some
of the things that I think we should
think about the other thing is the
public nuisance part of bus shelters and
I think Metro's made some really good
strides in designing their bus shelters
so that people can't sleep in them
overnight if you'll notice the benches
have gotten narrower and narrower and
narrower narrower so that it would would
be very difficult to sleep on them I
I've even had I was in one bus shelter
where the seat was actually sort of a
lead to you got to lean against the back
of the bus shelter there really wasn't a
seat for anybody or they have a little
shelf where you can put down your
packages and things like that but you
don't provide people with a place to
sleep at night and then there are it is
a place where garbage collects and
things like that so
um the uh the issue of Maintenance I
think would also be something we'd have
to think really carefully about is that
going to be our responsibility metros or
how are we going to split that or or in
some cases again do we get the community
involved in making sure that those
shelters stay clean there's all kinds of
options but I think we don't want this
to be something that actually
turns people against Transit youths and
a bus shelter that's always a mess and
always has garbage is not going to be
the thing that we want in our
neighborhood so
overall yes very much in favor of uh
pursuing this idea and providing our
community members with more incentives
to ride the bus
so those are my comments on number one
we do number one let's do number one
yeah
thanks
um yeah I mean ditto everything from
councilmember Michelle
um I think my uh
you know I'm glad I asked the questions
about advertising so I mean it's good to
know that we we'd want to meet their
standards also it sounds like we're
relatively low on the list too so like
the timing would need to be an important
factor for me so I wouldn't want us to
do any of the surfacing and the plugins
for a shelter and then years go by
before a shelter is actually installed
so
perhaps that's just coordination with
Metro letting them know that you know we
have potentially we have resources ready
to go like it can be queued up whenever
we understand that it's been added to
your work plan or something like that
so yeah for question one the timing
would be an important factor for me and
then yeah the what um the trans
Transportation advisory reports feedback
I thought was great too so exploring
kind of opportunities for for cost
sharing their um be great to look into
and if honestly if we have a lot of time
before we imagine a shelter actually
coming here it sounds like we have a lot
of time to do some of this explorative
work anyway so
I think
yeah those are all my comments on
numbers
um thanks um I have a couple of thoughts
um unlike my my colleagues I'm not
really excited about investing heavily
in amenities and and uh councilmember D
Michelle talked about the public
nuisance and I know there's things we
can do but that concerns me
um but mostly I'm concerned about cost
and if we had an infinite amount of
money to spend I would I would be kind
of a different place but we have so many
needs right now in this community
um that I
the cost to deploy them and then the
cost to maintain them caused me to pause
and then also I'm not sure that we've
established a really clear link between
our goal which is to drive ridership and
deploying amenities so if we did want to
move forward with that I would really
like to see us some strong
correlation between boy people are not
taking the bus because there's a lack of
amenity I'm not sure that that's that's
the case so
um I'm less excited about
um
in taking on the cost of many
uh councilmember I just wanted to
actually I thought those were I think we
should take on the cost but I thought
those were excellent points so I just
want to ditto that in terms of making
sure we kind of explore those those
questions before we actually do think
about something more concrete
okay
um uh Thomas Administration is everyone
do you have what you need in terms of
direction for us on number one
we do thank you all right well let's go
on to number two and that's uh
where meaningful improvements can be
made um to enhance the speed and or
reliability of high quality Transit
should the city consider strategic use
of Transit priority priority treatments
your signalized intersections
um
Deputy council president Hall would you
like to go first this time sure
um yeah I think so honestly this is this
seems really exciting in terms of
something that we could pursue and
potentially a very low cost
um low-cost initiatives to consider I
think
um I was about to say deputy council
president right council member Ray
brings up a really good point about
um considering this amongst all our
various needs too so you know if we
start to go down this path it'd be good
to actually get it into well actually if
there are any Capital costs it'd be good
to get into the CIP but if it really is
just paint on the road I suppose that's
different
um
I I think this is a interesting and
creative idea I would actually
prioritize this over bus stop amenities
um just because there's so much timing
that impacts bus stop amenities also
this is a way for us to show Metro that
we are committed to Transit here in
Issaquah and we want to make it easier
for buses to get around
um actually I think some of the bus only
kind of treatments that I've seen before
also allow bikes
um if I remember right and if we're able
to do that I would be supportive of that
too because then you know
um
rocks one stone that's not it one stone
two birds two phones whatever the phrase
is yes
um would like to see yeah how that pairs
with our bike supporting our bike
initiatives as well
um
definitely
um seeing how this you know its it'll be
good to kind of deploy this with its but
also its will inform where it would best
fit in our Transit Network here in
issquad too so I would just defer to
staff in terms of kind of what comes
first there the chicken or the egg
um and then
yeah those are my comments on
did you have anything
um councilman show
thank you um I'm I'd like to comment on
number two and then when we're all
finished commenting could you I would
appreciate uh you're coming back and I
have a general comment I'd like to make
so number two
um yes I support uh the idea of looking
at
um helping uh to improve our speed and
reliability especially today having sat
on Front Street
and trying to get to this meeting
and moving one car length forward every
uh you know change in the in the lights
so
um
and and that made me think however how
the various options that we have might
be rather limited as given the geography
and topography that we're working with
in downtown in the valley uh when it
gets to be a traffic jam there there's
nobody's going to go fast including the
the bus so but out on sr900 I think
there are things that we could do for
for sure
um I've experienced uh the
um the uh what do they call that the the
Frog the leaping
um in down yeah Q jumping in downtown
Seattle that seems to work really really
well I think it depends on what we're
whether we talk about sr900 or Front
Street whether we're talking about
really viable systems
um the um another good place to be
looking at though would be up in the
highlands uh going on the drag through
there would be a really good place to be
exploring what we could do there to make
the trail that's it a little faster so I
think all of these uh are really good
things for us to explore explore we're
in the situation right now of looking at
these things in the bigger picture and
figuring out our policy on them
um and when we get down and then
and look at them in a lot more depth
we'll understand a little bit more about
how much you have cost and those kinds
of things I did like the idea from the
tab about looking at the its that we're
going to be doing and seeing how we
could work that in at the same time with
the signalization I think that would be
a great uh time to be doing that and
something that we could probably do at a
reasonable reasonably low cost so I
support I support number two very much
thanks
[Laughter]
I'm pretty much aligned with my
colleagues
um primarily as it relates to aligning
with the its project I think the
incremental cost of of doing some of
these enhancements when we're putting
its in will be very small so we can get
bang with a few bucks
um I think the one thing that Thomas
said that would really resonated with me
is that whatever we do doesn't have a
significantly an adverse impact on other
modes of transportation so I think
that's kind of also needs to be called
out and that kind of limits where we can
do it now what's interesting is a lot of
things that we're talking about here
have been done on sr900 they've got the
HOV lane
and which looks like a lot like a bat
they've got cue jumping
um
heading southbound and they've got
Transit signal prioritization to turn
into the park and ride so
um there's also I mean we have we have
instances of this in the in town
um and they work really well so um but
that's also sr900 which is a little
different Beast
um so but I think there are places that
we could consider some of these things
if it if it was practical from a
physical perspective
and and they work really well I mean
I've spent uh when you're in the big old
articulated bus and you are in the far
right lane and then you got to get over
four lanes of traffic to turn into the
transit center you are really happy for
that uh cue jumping to get through
traffic so
um it really does make a world of
difference and
those
um I think we're pretty aligned on that
all right uh Thomas anything else you
need from us on this one that I'm going
to give councilmember D Michelle a
couple minutes to
okay
oh okay and I never turned off my
microphone so
so I didn't have to think about that
um so in their packet
um in the gaps analysis there were
actually three items that were listed in
there and I did send Thomas a an email
to Broach this topic and the third one
was the e-bike and the e
um scooters uh project and that was part
of the Gap analysis and
um I sent Thomas an email and just to
kind of hope I characterized this
correctly but well we're not looking at
that because
um you know a year ago you guys said no
and so I just wanted to come back and
say well we said no but if if I remember
incorrectly
that idea was brought to us around May
time and with the idea that the pilot
would start in July and I remember and I
voted no on it because I didn't think
that there was time enough there to work
out a really good answer to all the
questions we had in time to really do a
pilot and make it successful and I think
I my know was I didn't want a program
that was going to fail because we really
hadn't put the thought into it so I I
just wanted to bring it up again that
was one of the recommendations in this
gaps analysis and I would like to look
at e-scooters and uh is it e-bikes again
and I'd like to start that conversation
you know early so that maybe by the
summer of 24 or the summer of 25 we
could put in place a pilot that would
have a high chance of success and
um and I'm and I have to say too I've
heard from people who said well how come
they turn that down that would be a
great project so I'm thinking well let's
let's take another look at it if if that
is some thing I'm just putting it out
there I know it's not on a work plan
anywhere any of that but I just wanted
to to clarify that I think our no was a
no to this particular proposal and maybe
not a no to the whole concept of
e-scooters and e-bikes
does that make sense to everybody all
right so that that's what I wanted to
bring up
uh Deputy Town's president
um I mean firstly a million times in
support of that and hopefully a bird or
another company is still interested in
kind of pursuing something with us in
the future
um but maybe the administration can kind
of
um
put some thought into this idea of kind
of more long term what can we be doing
for a pilot program there a couple other
things I wanted to bring up
um first and foremost
um that are kind of tangentially related
there are tons of federal and state
rebate and incentives
um and tax exemptions for e-bikes and
e-scooters and things like that so I
want to make sure our Communications
Department is maybe putting these
together are there ways that we can be
communicating this out with the
community better
also the legislature our state
legislature recently recently approved
funding for something called an e-bike
lending library which I had never heard
of before but apparently it allows kind
of local jurisdictions businesses and
non-profits to lend out e-bikes to
people to try it out
um and so I wonder if that's something
we can kind of get in on the ground
early on and talk with
um Shelly or whoever can kind of help us
get more details about that program
because I found that incredibly
interesting
um also
um either with that or not could it be
possible to have even like City
sponsored events at the state park or
something where people could come and
just test ride an e-bike around a loop
or something like that I mean is this
something that you know we could be
interested in partnership with
sustainability Department of creating
opportunities for our residents to kind
of explore these options to see if it
might be worth them to purchase again
not expecting anything real to come out
of that but you know just some ideas I
wanted to spit out and then also agree
with councilman Michelle councilmember D
Michelle about the pilot program I also
just wanted to say that the uh
existing conditions report was
absolutely fascinating good to have data
in kind of a better characterization
that you know most of our residents
don't live within Iraq walking distance
to a bus stop but many are within
comfortable biking distance
um in that you know parking is one of
the main
issues for people who are who can drive
to Transit centers but the parking is
usually full at those spots which you
know we all know but it's good to get
that on a piece of paper in that you
know oftentimes these Regional
destinations take significantly longer
to go by transit than it does by car
and a lot more interest City trips than
I would expect like a lot more and I
found that very heartening in terms of
kind of our goals and where we want to
go into the future also reading and kind
of seeing some of the data around there
not being any Equity implications here
either in terms of how people of color
um are uh affected by being more than a
quarter mile away from a Transit Center
so I thought that was good to see that
there aren't any disparities that exist
and
again really appreciate all the work
that our consultants and staff did on
that report as well I'm not sure if it's
final or if it's still kind of in the
process of becoming final but again
thank you for all that work
s
great
um thank you
um Thomas Thanks for the uh the
presentation discussion and with that
we're going to move on to our next
agenda item which is ID 1414 Street
standards update presented by John
Mortensen our transportation engineering
manager welcome John
thank you very much chairman Ray
give me just a minute and I'll get my
presentation loaded up
good evening committee members I'm John
Mortensen transportation engineering
manager tonight I am here giving a
presentation seeking the committee's
feedback on the update to the public
works Street standards
the purpose of the tonight's item that
we have before you is to provide an
update on the update the street
standards and to seek the committee's
support
on the proposed revisions to the street
standards
the direction that the administration
needs from the committee is a simple
question and that is does the council
committee support the proposed revisions
to the street standards
a little background on this item in 2010
the city council adopted the current
version of the street standards and in
that street standards version
the council at the time decided it
wanted to allow the difference between
administrative changes and Council
changes and on my next slide I'll go
into the details of what can be done to
administratively versus what
is required to be approved by Council
since then A lot's changed the first
thing is the central Issaquah plan was
adopted and it included the central
Issaquah Street standards which are
circulation standards which were Street
standards that actually lived in the
land use code not into the street
standards
also recently in 2000 slash 2001 the
mobility master plan was completed
which
placed a new priority on alternative
modes of transportation set a light
bicycle level of traffic stress standard
number of other things most recently the
council adopted the new rewrite of Title
18 and then earlier this year Thomas
eldrez presented the street typologies
to the committee and got some feedback
with all that I want to talk a little
bit about the changes
the current Street standards say that
administrative changes can be made to
the street standards as long as they are
consistent with the wash.design manual
the issca municipal code for landscaping
and tree preservation and the city's
comprehensive plan now with this street
standards revision we've packaged
everything up at one time there's a
number of things that are administrative
changes and there's a number of things
that are Council changes we have it all
in one document though rather than
trying to do short two short updates
some examples of items that would
require Council approval and the so the
first one is currently our street
standards say that retaining walls will
be designed to the international
building code standard if we were to
want to change it to
the ash Stone I forget what ashto stands
for but that's the standard that washed
out in a lot of public agencies with
roads and streets use in my mind that
crosses the line where that needs to be
a council decision not an administrative
decision
the street typical sections that's also
a council item to approve which is why
the typologies is included in this
revision of the street standards that
we'd going to ask the council to approve
and then
right now there's a if the city the city
is required to put in a landscape
planner strip with Street trees this is
both in the street standards and in
Title 18 of the land use code and if we
were to change the exemption
to not allow a planner script maybe I
mean I'm thinking of an example we're
doing a project right now to determine
what would be the preferred section of
sidewalk or bike Lanes on squawk
Mountain but thinking of if the
community's desire
is to preserve the existing trees and
minimize not put in a planter strip that
would be something that would have to
come to the council
about that the proposal in the revision
to the street standards a lot of the
items that we have are just simply
moving things that were orphaned from
Title 18 into the street standards and
that includes the central issaqua
circulation facilities
we move those with minor changes the
only changes really that we made were
just making them consistent with how the
street standards were but the idea was
to keep the intent of the centralist
Cross regulation standards
the other one is Sky Bridges
that was in Title 18 with the adoption
it was
orphaned and just moved it word for word
the street typologies that Thomas talked
to you earlier this year have been
incorporated into the proposed revision
to the street standards
as we're working on the its plan one of
the things in the its plan will there'll
be other things that we'll want to
revise but one of the things this is a
combination of
something identified in the its plan as
well as a practice that we've gone to
in order to preserve our pavement is to
change from using Loop detectors in the
pavement because Loops cause pavement
failure to radar detection
and so we've got that included into this
revision to the street standards
another one is the mobility master plan
and then now the comprehensive plan
identified a bicycle level of traffic
stress and we added that into the street
standards
and then finally the last one minor
cleanup just things to reflect current
org charts that we have try and remove
any gender specific language
and update the references to Title 18
that changed
hmm
I want to make a quick apology I
realized that
on the council meeting on July 10th
we're doing a public hearing and I had
in my original packet said we would try
and adopt the street standards then but
typically when we do a public hearing we
adopted the following meeting so I made
a quick revision to that and so the
options that the committee has are to
modify the proposed Street standards or
to
make no changes to the proposed Street
standards and recommend the full Council
set of public hearing on July 10 2023.
the administration's recommendation
is to
support adopting the proposed Street
standards at the regular council meeting
on July 24th 2023
and the timing and next steps
the public hearing would like to have it
set for July 10th with adoption on July
24th
we're working on other updates to the
street standards right now we are
working on a lot more of a technical
update to the traffic signal standards
in the street standards
and at this point I can't say what how
much of that will be items that need to
be approved by Council versus ones that
fit in the category of what can be
approved administratively we're in the
middle of working on that
there's a lot of technology has changed
since 2010
and that's long overdue other things
that we have on the long-term Street
standards to-do list are bicycle
standards or design at intersections one
of the things that we got from the
Transportation Advisory board when we're
talking about Street typologies was
that's great but what about the
intersections and so we have it on the
work plan to
create design standards at intersections
illumination standards working with
Community Planning and Development to
better coordinate what was adopted in
Title 18 versus what we have in the
street standards I think there's some
work that we need to do there and then
thinking and this is an idea I haven't
quite fully baked out but I'm thinking
of a way to
improve our standards to have a make it
easier to implement smaller
non-motorized Transportation
improvements that a lot of the way our
Sanders are currently written you pretty
much are redeveloping I mentioned squawk
Mountain for example where the standard
as written would require Street trees
and planter strip and trying to think of
what is a context sensitive outcome and
trying
form a conversation with the Council on
what's the community's desire
going back to the direction needed
the question is does the council
committee support the proposed revisions
to the street standards
right let's uh there's some questions
Deputy council president thank you
um there's one
um
one of the changes that kind of struck
me that I just wanted to ask about in
terms of what impact it would have
all right
oh here it is
um it was the one that added that six
intersections can operate at level of
service e or f as long as city-wide
averages b or better can you talk about
what that means the impact that is yeah
that one actually doesn't change
anything that was more housekeeping in
the transportation concurrency part of
Title 18 and I'm going to say the former
Title 18 and the Rewritten title 18. we
have it where the city's level of
service at a traffic signal is D or
better
except for at six intersections for a
variety of reasons the council at the
time decided that those could operate at
level of service e or F now
what we did with this was just to put
into the street standards which would is
already into the city code it's just
more of a cleanup item
I wonder if that would be
a potential topic for conversation in
the future as to whether or not that's a
good
were they six like intersections in
particular that the council had thought
or yeah it's six specific ones where it
would take a lot to yeah to D or better
and so the six I don't have them all
memorized East Lake Sammamish Parkway in
southeast 56th there's one of them
Issaquah Pine Lake Road in Nisswa Falls
City Road
the there's an interesting one Telus
drive and sr900 was one but then when we
updated our concurrency back in 2017
that one was no longer at level of
service erf it was actually
D or better and I know
the intersection of Sunset and front is
also one of them that's one of our worst
traffic signals
okay so the investment is just would be
a lot to get it up even deep correct
so Wonder though in the future good
I'm sorry go ahead hi this is Andrea
um so I believe that we uh the city has
had policy discussions on these
intersections in the past of how we
characterize uh the different grades to
each intersection and how we want to
approach those intersections it's been
part of concurrency discussions in the
past
um as Council may recall we are uh
updating our concurrency
approach as well and so we'll be talking
more about uh more about the concurrency
model traffic and investments in our um
and our infrastructure and our
transportation infrastructure in the
coming year I think John can tell me
when we expect to have the concurrency
project back before Council
there's going to be two concurrency
projects and such a fun topic you can't
just have one the first one is the
technical update so we're doing a
technical update right now and that'll
be this fall we'll present to the
committee which is one where we're it'll
be more of well depending on what the
model says depends on whether it would
trigger policy discussions although I
met with the consultant earlier today I
would be shocked because our traffic
counts are so much less than what the
model said they should be
all right
but
the other one which will be in the
future and we don't quite have the
schedule ironed out is a conversation to
ask the question
does the city's Transportation
concurrency system align with the
mobility master plan guiding principles
and
if yes then okay that works done if no
then what do we
you're nothing that's my mind always an
option to consider do we modify the
current system or do we overhaul the
system and redo it but that's
conversation for another day
okay thank you appreciate the answer in
the context
any other questions
all right uh we have another public
comment opportunity clerk do we have
anybody with us online
we do oh
all right so if you are online and you'd
like to make comments at this time you
can press uh star three on your phone or
look for a hand icon and we'll wait just
a second see if anybody raises their
hand I would like to make comment
any hands no sure no hands at this time
all right well we will we will move on
and we'll move to the next section which
is uh deliberation and uh the
administration is looking for input on
uh our support for the proposed
revisions to the street standards so
what was that
thumbs up
um
well I think I'm going to make you talk
about it
any uh comments
um that you'd like to make you know I
this one feels a little bit easier than
the last one in that it most of this
seems like housekeeping it seems like
you've done your homework and analyzed
these these changes together so I
appreciate
um
the summary of change is document two to
be able to slug through that massive
document so this seems um like a simple
update to me and so yes I'll I would
support the proposal
yeah I'll I'll Echo that and I want to
Echo what uh customer Hall said earlier
about you know every time that
staff comes here with a presentation for
us it is so thoroughly done uh we just I
can't thank you enough we get the best
materials here and they're always so
clearly explanatory which is another way
of saying that I have no objection to
moving forward with the street standards
I appreciate very much I asked for the
marked up copy and that was very helpful
and I will admit that I did not get all
the way through it but it's very obvious
that it's been very thoughtfully done
and if we have a hearing on the 10th and
adopt on the 24th I will be supporting
that as well so but just a general
appreciation for the thoroughness of the
materials that are brought to us here
every time thank you so much
all right great I and I I concur so the
question then really is
um
we'll do the public hearing on the 10th
we're supportive of that yes
um and then it'll come back for final
adoption on the 24th consent okay or you
want to do regular business
I think consent too all right so let's
uh let's schedule the public hearing for
July 10 and let's put it on consent on
July 24th
right
council member D Michelle oh I when we
were talking about whether it goes on
consent or the regular agenda the first
item that we discussed what are the next
next steps for that is that going back
to staff or uh what what is the next
step for for that particular item
thank you for that question I was
realizing that we didn't actually spell
out what the next steps are so the
transit study is a very big study for us
it is not done this is just really the
first section of us taking a look at
what our existing conditions what are
the gaps where do we want to head to
right so there's a lot more development
that needs to occur we do anticipate
being uh back in front of this Committee
in August with the second set of policy
questions from the transit study so we
uh we still have the expectation that
the transit study will be complete by
the end of the year and come to full
council at that time but at this point
we're working on sections at a time so
we're going to come back to this
Committee in August with the next set of
policy questions for you
uh Deputy council president
um I just really quickly then wanted
also to say to add on to councilmember
Michelle's thanks
um they're kind of thinking John
thinking ahead like the 2024 next steps
that you have including this kind of
what sounds like a kind of creative
discussion about non-motorized
implementation standards very supportive
of us kind of having those conversations
thank you for keeping an eye out for
these opportunities
discussion I'm just thinking
all right um thank you John great as
always all right so that brings us to
the end of our agenda uh we have
announcements any uh announcements from
the committee
I'm seeing a maybe
yes
um and I'm looking at at Andrea the
regional transit committee has their
meeting I believe next week on the 2020
um
let's see 19 21st and I believe the safe
they're going to give us another report
on the safe project which is uh
increasing
um safety on the bus system and I will
be I will be in Spokane but I will be at
the RTC meeting because that is an issue
I think of real importance to our
community so anybody who wants to watch
the regional transit committee and watch
that report
it is online on the King County website
or contact me and I'll help you find it
thanks
thank you
nothing okay
since we have no nothing else this
meeting is adjourned at 802. thank you
all