okay technical issues resolved it sounds like so oh technical issues resolved We are continuing the September 28th Committee of the whole meeting um and I will once again just ask for public comments and see if there is anyone on the phone or online that are interested in making comments clerk do we have anyone indicating we have uh one unidentified individual attending virtually so call her if you'd like to make public comments please press star 3 on your phone to indicate you'd like to speak please press star 3 if you'd like to make comments at this time and I don't oh I do see a hand raised all right so phoning caller I am unmuting you now the and I'm just tuning in because I'm interested in the emergency housing portion and I hope that this will program will not be extinguished thank you thank you very much for your comments and do we have anyone else signed up we have no other members of the public fantastic so as a reminder for anyone listening written comments can always be submitted at any time to city council at issaquah.gov so the next item on our agenda is id1183 the 2023-2024 budget overview and funding priorities the overview is going to be presented by Robert hamoud our Chief Financial Officer and Susie monsell our budget manager and then we have funding priorities presented by many of our senior staff and uh and I'm going to actually start with a little bit of a preamble fantastic take it away good evening members of the council uh thank you uh for being here this evening uh we're very pleased to present to you mayor Paulie's uh 2023-2024 budget and our purposes tonight is the agenda indicates uh we will talk a little bit about the schedule and the upcoming events for the the budget review by the city council uh we'll then get into some of the specifics on the general fund uh both expenditures and revenues and then mayor Paulie in preparing this year's budget really wanted to focus on three priority areas we want to spend a few minutes this evening talking about those priority areas as well as what we see our future challenges in each of those areas and so we'll have other chief of police Paul Schwann uh make a presentation regarding the the police department's Budget on the Human Services side Monica negrila and Jeff Watling and then on infrastructure I'm very pleased to introduce to the council our new Public Works director Emily Moon uh and Emily along with Deputy City adminster writer Andrew Schneider will be talking a little bit about infrastructure we'll talk some more then about Personnel additions and adjustments other budget highlights and then as we have done for the last couple of years the administration is going to put forward some specific policy questions for the council's consideration during your budget deliberations and then talk a little bit about next steps next slide so the budget schedule we're at the second leg of that with the presentation this evening uh at your regular council meeting next week on October 3rd are the various public hearings required for the budget and we do those twice so this will be the first of the public hearings and then the various ordinances are introduced for the first time and again there's a introduction and then a adoption at a later meeting and then there will be on October 10th another Committee of the whole with budget deliberations another scheduled Committee of the whole on October 17th for Budget deliberations October 25th uh schedule hopefully final budget deliberations and then the final actions to adopt the budget on November 7th next slide so to remind the council and to share with the community with the Issaquah strategic plan we have a series of steps that were adopted to help the city uh you know be as Mindful and thoughtful as possible on how we operate how we budget how we measure uh success and we are at the bottom of that circle with the budget discussions over the next several weeks and just to remind you of the process we then begin the year with a work plan and come back to the council in January with that every other year so coming up in 2023 we will do a community survey and also look more finely at performance evaluations as I I know the council is aware of that has been a evolving uh process for us looking at performance and I think when we talk with you in January we're going to come up with a schedule for this circle through the 2023 year we think it would probably be it makes sense to add a separate Council study session to talk specifically about performance evaluation early in the year so as we begin the budget process that is informed with the looking at performance early in the process again 2023 is a community survey year so we will have that process we will then bring that back to you in the summertime with that information ask the council to look at the Strategic plan the strategy and budget planning workshop that's also been a part of that July meeting a financial Workshop usually at the end of the summer and that brings us to the budget so we've done a lot of this I think the council did an excellent job in both January and July looking at priorities and I think as we go through the budget this evening you will see many of the issues that have been identified by the council during those sessions have been addressed in the mayor's proposed budget next slide so one of the issues uh that the council has raised and certainly the Administration has been very mindful of has been what we call underspend the idea that we budget a full year salaries for every authorized position uh we budget a top-line health care benefit for every budgeted position and as we have had over the last several years a significant number of vacancies throughout the year that creates an underspend or or dollars that are budgeted and not spent and the administration mayor Paulie agrees with the council that in order for us to be more precise in our budgeting that we needed to be more aggressive in addressing that so included in this budget this year are a couple of of new strategies to help us with that first is that we have increased the budget for the Personnel underspend from one percent to three percent so the last couple of years what we have done is we have taken the the value of one percent of salaries and put a minus in that so that that money then could be re-spent on other things we've increased that 423 24 to 3 percent we think that's more accurate reflection of what our actual has been we will continue to be diligent of course in filling budgeted positions but as you all know that remains a challenge for us and most businesses to fill that and so we feel comfortable making that adjustment from one percent to three percent uh second we are going to reduce the budget amount for vacant and new position benefits so again what the past practice has been is that we budget uh the the greatest amount per position for health care benefits and the reality is again through vacancies we have savings there and we have employees that you choose not to take that top tier health benefit and so the cost of the city uh for sometimes the people coming on board in a new position is less than what we budgeted so we have made some adjustments there uh to capture the understand and then finally uh we are proposing in this budget to increase capacity on the budget team for more robust robust mid-year monitoring uh not only on the operating side but on the capital side and as we talk this evening and talk over the next few weeks with the budget uh the capital budget is a very significant part of the work that we'll be doing uh over the next uh two years so we want to be sure that we're doing that um as mindfully as possible watching those budget expenditures next slide so while generally mayor Paul is very pleased to submit to the council a very healthy and robust budget we still remain concerned about our long-term funding strategies um that as we look at them we look at the restricted growth of major Revenue sources specifically uh property tax we look at what we would see as a drawdown on fund balance in the out years through our our longer term Financial forecasts so at this point we're looking at a 10 percent undesignated and become balanced by 2027 which we believe is is too low and then with those concerns we're proposing through the beginning of next year to begin discussions with the council over a more long-term funding strategy to maintain a current level of operating Services as you know we've had discussions over the last year looking at our Opera our Capital financing issues I think we're going to need to look at our operating uh financing as well next slide and again just a snapshot of our property tax in 2014 7.6 million dollars the proposed 2022 budget 10.1 million dollars um you know the growth of that uh has been steady but it has been slow uh and the reality is is that we take in less money in general property tax than our cost for Public Safety Services so we're again very fortunate to have other robust Revenue uh but property tax is really not serving uh what I think it was meant to do which was to fund largely the services provided by the city and so that is something we will want to continue to talk with the council about um through this process and then over hopefully the next several years next slide foreign again we're going to spend some time this evening focusing on these three budget priorities Public Safety Human Services and infrastructure and I've already introduced those staff members that will be discussing that next slide so let's get into the nitty-gritty now unless there's any initial questions council president members of the council I'd like Robert humud our Chief Financial Officer to pick up the story from here thank you Wally and the first slide here is just kind of the flow of how the biennial budget process so again it's different than previous years because you're looking at the two-year schedule rather than a one-year schedule so you can see we've already gone through obviously we're in the proposed budget development now getting into the city council deliberations in Q3 2022 then you have the 2023-24 budget adoption obviously by the end of the year and then the implementation for 2023 early next year there will be um most likely a reauthorization process as in Prior years happening in 2023 but you'll notice that that reauthorization process as I've mentioned in previous meetings will not happen in 2024 because you have a two-year appropriation rather than a one-year appropriation but there is the 2023-24 biennium mid biennial review that would happen by actually anywhere through Q3 2023 and again that'll be the opportunity to change budget assumptions as needed as revenues change expenditure forecast change that'll be an opportunity as well for Budget amendments as needed and then 2024 obviously so in our systems and even with the auditing we still consider each year the biennium a separate fiscal year but for the appropriation for what you're going to actually pass that will be the two-year budget and then the final budget amendments would be at the end obviously of 2024 at the end of the biennium so the revenue Outlook back to Wally's point you can see that property tax is not our largest revenue source that is sales tax so property tax you can see is forecasted at one 10.1 million for 2022 raises to 10.5 million in 2024 but you can see also with sales tax this does include the affordable housing sales tax to 0.1 percent that I've spoken to some of you in detail on the past few days that is the forecast right now at 23.8 million and we're focused forecasting at 25.5 million for 24 and we had a month more of sales tax data that came in today for 2022 July's numbers and again they were very strong through the summer so we're confident in that forecast for this year and then in the out years b o or business and occupation tax 7.1 and 22 going to 7.6 million and 24. utility tax 5.5 million and 22 going to 2006.2 million in 2024 some of that increase will be due to rate increases on utilities and services that that do feed into that that utility tax payment at the end other Revenue sources again anything from Grants intergovernmental local revenues and arpa that's 19.7 million for 22. you can see that drop to 14.6 that's the arpa this is the second tranche of the arpa we received in 22. we also received the first trunch in 21 you can see that goes away because there's about 5 million a year 5.5 million a year so that drops the number to 14.6 on the other revenues and so you can see the total forecast right now with 66.2 million for 2022 63 million for 23 64.6 million for 24. so general fund balancing charge and I might have Susie weigh in here if there's any questions on this uh total beginning fund balance 35.7 million for 23 25.8 million for 24. so again that's the drawdown that we've been discussing ongoing revenues you can see again 62.2 million and 20 by 24 and the ongoing expenditures you can see under revenues 61.7 Million by 24 58.6 million and 23 one-time expenditures a lot of them and I've I know I've mentioned this in Prior meetings a lot of the runtime expenditures for a biennium actually are funded in the first year because it's a two-year period so you can see 8.7 million the first year 3 million the second year our expenditures again 4.7 million the first year 4.1 million the second year and again were statutorily obligated to spend it by the end of 24 per the arpa guidelines from the federal government at this point affordable housing expenditures you can see 900 1023 also 900 024. and you can also see that there's still an ongoing capacity difference 1.5 million the first year but 0.5 million in the second year and again this is to total up you could see the ending fund balance this is to make sure that we're targeting that 17 so even with that 500 000 ongoing capacity difference of 24 we're still forecasted to be at 17 of fund balance so you can see ending fund balance 25.8 and 23 20.8 and 24. affordable housing actually increases again because the sales tax is growing each year we don't have large projects for expenditures yet forecasted for that fund the 9.1 million and 24. and so you can see the undesignated fund balance total about 11.7 million in 2024. in general fund balance impact again I've kind of touched on this already but just to highlight it again you can see where we're starting out as a total fund balances percentage percentage of expenditures in 22 is 41 percent again with increased Revenue outlook for 22 it's up to 56 percent also that's combined with some of the proposed underspend that is still occurring especially with Personnel in the 2022 budget but you can see that being reduced to 30 and 24 and then undesignated fund balance going from 33 the end of this year forecasted to 17 and 24. Robert just one comment when you um sit back it's a little bit harder to hear you so if you could pull that apologize thank you any questions nope okay so the 2023 budget overview the proposed totals are 165.2 million dollars and you can see where general fund accounts for 43 percent of all expenditures utilities about 22 percent of all expenditures special Revenue funds 11 capital projects about 13 of these expenses Debt Service um about two percent so this is all of our funds total for the city and then 24 about the same but it's 174.2 million you can see capital projects about 13 in 24 40 general fund 25 utility special Revenue 13 percent and this is a busy chart but we're just trying to show kind of the Breakout by Department of of the general fund totals you can see the public safety site is in the bottom left-hand corner you can see the police department of 15.7 million Municipal Court 1.3 million fire 8.1 million and you could see the second would be Parks itself 11.6 million Community Development 8.6 and then you can see the administrative departments and also the interfund transfers and again pretty much the same mix you see in 2024 as well any questions on these so the proposed general fund Revenue adjustments over the 2022 budget we're assuming in the numbers that we've presented tonight that we're assuming that Council does approve the one percent property tax levy increase it also assumes the increase in Recreation and CPU and Community Planning and Development fees that have been proposed and also the proposal by the executive to increase court and jail contracts of partner cities by five percent going in for both 20 going into 23 and 24 and then previously adopted utility rate increases we have a slide at the end that will show those rate increases and then um I know Wally showed this slide previously the funding priorities again Public Safety Human Services and infrastructure and we're going to be presenting more details tonight on these and first is chuchuan thank you council members and Robert for getting that precious extended started for us I became your um chief of Issaquah a couple months ago I was interim starting in November and at that point in time we were down a great deal in our staffing and so one of the big pushes has been Staffing for us that's a big thing that we've been pushing and moving forward presently right now we have 32 staff as far as Patrol goes and they're responsible for taking the safety of residents and business visitors who are coming to our city on a daily basis so our nighttime residence is about forty thousand but daytime obviously is almost doubled that or more and so the residence population with 40 000 that gives us 0.75 officers per thousand people which is an estimate that is about 2.2 times lower than the national average of 2.4 officers per thousand for your Police Department in the City of Issaquah total no calls for service between 2014. I can't see which slides we're in can we go to the next one one moment please okay so for the biggest Focus that we are proposing for the next budget for the 2020 or 23 24 budget is we're focusing on continuing that recruitment retention for the officers that we do have and then in 23 we hope to get all the information that's needed to get our body worn camps um the cameras so I'll be officer and corrections officer both would be wearing a body worn camera so we have access to the data if we have a public disclosure request on all the actions for accountability and for moving us forward into a lot of what other agencies are doing in our area as well and so we can keep that for it's a lot of asks that have been going on within our climate these days for law enforcement as well we also want to add some correction we are adding or asking that a corrections officer record specialist record specialist specifically is to handle all those PDR requests and some other work that is necessary as well as two Patrol officers in 2024. for the body worn cameras to back up real quick the idea would be do all the work in 2023 to have them implemented in quarter one of 2024. is the idea and um to we have started a pilot take-home car policy for the officers and so we would hope to implement five more new patrol cars in each one of those years so next slide there we go thank you um total calls for service this is a graph I don't know if you I can see that really well but it brings up from 2014 to 2021 there is four month section in 2021 that we don't have data for because of some circumstances with changing a software and so we don't quite have that data it would take us just a little more time we could still get that if it was needed but our 911 Center that takes all these calls for service they route resources to help emergent services for three different cities specifically and the Issaquah North Bend and Snoqualmie there are 24 7 Center 365. so there's someone answering those phones every day every hour of every day and on an average Issaquah has around 60 000 total calls for service Which is higher than other local dispatch centers themselves so we're projected already to be hired this year than we have been in past years as well and our total calls is just under half all the calls are 9-1-1 related just to give you a little perspective of the types of calls and how much that our dispatches are taking here in our own City next slide please dispatch calls to give you a perspective for all calls for service were 22 412 for all three different divisions our cities collectively and just for Squad loan was 11 101. thus far that's for this year alone and what we have moving forward so as you can see we are on target to be higher than we have in the past by the previous graph next slide please this is a comparison shot Redmond has a Dispatch Center as well they dispatch for only two cities and we dispatch for three we have a comparatively similar number of calls for service there's slightly higher with their population being um similarly but we have over ten thousand more 911 calls than they have so our emergent calls for service are more than the calls for service that they're receiving which are non-emergent so it's different in the type of call we're taking information we're Gathering how emergent that works for the people that are taking the calls which is a night at 48 percent higher level in that [Music] um they have different clear variations for a reason and we do have a smaller population um but like I said the higher proportion is the 911 calls this is our dispatch Staffing comparison I just want to say first of all that we are greatly and there is more staff in our Dispatch Center than there's been in the five years and and since many have been here and seen so that is a great Improvement we do still have some work to do and so I'm very thankful all our Dispatchers in our Center are very thankful our officers are thankful although we do need more to staff the hours and the types of calls and the stress level of those calls being that there's so many 911s in our in our Center and to put perspective in comparison for the size and Center we dispatch for three cities and Redmond dispatches for two it's Redmond and Duvall they have if you can see from the chart we have one supervisor and 10 dispatchers they have almost double the type of Staff complete staff that we have for the same number calls for service so as you can see there's just a drastic difference in numbers there moving into our Patrol stopping this is a little bit harder in the moment we have a comment yes just a quick quick question on the 9-1-1 calls of course um how many of those are police dispatch and how many of them are fire that didn't get routed to norcom that's a great that is a great question I don't have that staff readily ever that staff numberly variable right now our crime analyst can get that information back to council yeah that would be interesting and then also a similar comparison for for Redmond because of you know the just understanding the breakdown of those 9-1-1 calls would be really helpful yes of course great thank you yep so current Staffing can you see that it's a kind of a smaller slide but the numbers in the red specifically the blue is our new org chart the red ones are the ones I'm sorry oh next slide there we go okay So currently we have 30 um on the street already commission officers that's from Chief on down that doesn't include the non-commissioned to Command Staff right now and it doesn't include the ones that are in fto and in training so if you look on the chart the ones in the green those are the ones that are actually hired but in training still so they can't work on their own essentially so they're still in training eventually hopefully will be those are the 12 that have been hired since November of 2021 has a large number there we still have um 11 vacancies but we have five more starting in October so of the 27 that we had of Staff overall in November we now are down to by the end of October we will have only five remaining that we to hire to be fully staffed in the whole Police Department so we've made a lot of progress we the ones in the red are the ones the spots we don't have filled quite yet but we have dispersed their tasks out to the other officers and so we are able to keep that level of service to the highest possible and to include reduced response times as much as possible so the community itself is still getting the service it's needing for emergent Services sometimes there's a little bit more of a delay if it's a cold colder call but we do also have that action where we've given them more opportunities to report online we do have a station officer who takes online reports takes phone reports and so we've been able to spread that a little bit as well with that um being a little more expeditious in him being able to take those calls while the other officers are still doing some traffic so we've tried to spread that out and then myself even doing some community events and things so we can spread the wealth but we're still out there are doing what is necessary so though we're you know growing in diversity that's a huge thing that's been very beneficial we have multiple officers that speak many different languages which was not the case that long ago so that's another increase that's been very beneficial presently we have four squads as you can see all of them have one Sergeant one Corporal and four other officers when we are fully staffed and that doesn't include the detectives division that when fully staffed has a detective Sergeant detective Corporal two detectives and then an entire another Traffic Division that City administrator Bob kowitz has put in the recently in last year to where we'll have aided sergeant in an admin role that will be in charge of traffic the community resource officers and that station officer which we hope to have filled within the next six months that's our goal to be moving and having enough that's up and running and people trained um we have a question before you move on councilmember Chief uh Chief I have a question it uh says both of our community resource officers are vacant did we we lost our old community resource officer he became a firefighter thank you yep and what happened was when we became very low staffed what happened with that specific position and many of the other Specialties all were absorbed into Patrol so we still could have um response to the community without having to be contracted out to anyone else and so we did we made those movements and that's why we gave those tasks to other things so we do have random officers that will go who help out those community events or respond to those things that are necessary and we hope to eventually have some new people in that position after the first of the year yep and council member hunt thank you under detectives um can you help me understand it says two detective uh vacant and then also three detective vacant so that was just a number three so in other words those are two so we have a detective Sergeant one detective that's actually in place right now another will be a detective Corporal and then the other would be another detective's position so basically it's saying that there's two corporate or detectives positions that are vacant currently okay thank you yes and then our new crime analyst Ryan who's put a lot all this information together for you um collectively she also will be in that category and under that detective sergeant so ipd has the lowest number of full-time employees per thousand population compared to local and other cities who own police departments that's locally and throughout the state so we have some other numbers and comparables that I can explain that a little bit later or at another time um next slide thank you um moving into Corrections uh the corrections run our Issaquah Jail which is a modern 72-bed facility and Corrections are responsible for providing secure and safe environment for all inmates in the Issaquah Jail they offer care and security for inmates of 19 additional contract cities and not for not just Issaquah and all other outside agencies where they don't have an opportunity or they call us up and say hey can I bring somebody or if someone for example decides um or gets charged with a crime in another state but they live here they can ask to serve their time somewhere else so if they live in our community they can choose to use our jail which is a certain cost as well so they house all different kinds of individuals here that are all misdemeanor that's arranging and coordinated they all CEOs also arrange and coordinate various assistants to the whole person Wellness programs for the inmates they also have to schedule competency hearings we have six video courts that go on in our jail now downstairs and so it's been it's very busy down there during the daytime if you ever want to come down and and see all the workings that go on down there the jail has one Corrections supervisor who works one shift five days a week who supervises our Corrections staff the Spanish control is a little bit more than we'd like again we've come a long way having the one supervisor One Transport officer and 13 staff now and we're fully staffed on there is is amazing to have that many staff for as much as they have going on down there also this quad jail in comparison to the Kirkland jail the compare curriculum jails has one Lieutenant two sergeants and two Corps pearls who overseeing their 16 Corrections Officers so similarly we've come a very long way but we still have some work that needs to be done to get us and they have the exact same size jail we do so the span of control and actual oversight is a lot greater and so we just need to work on that a little bit more and moving forward is what we would our goal is next slide please thank you and for correction Staffing our city contract right now with our Union has it as one corrections officer per shift because of our numbers down there as you can see um year to date we've had 1047 inmates which is about 46.3 daily but sometimes our population will be up to in over the 60s so to have one down there is unrealistic and it's unsafe not just for the correction staff but for the inmates themselves so I put in a chief administrative order to have two Corrections Officers per shift for the safety of everybody involved and if they do need extra help they're all all required to a radio so our Patrol does help when necessary to make sure that they're available and they are required to wear their radios for that reason any given year their squad jail holds over 20 or 2150 in nights that go through our jail here in our city I don't think that's a number that a lot of people were aware of or some of this information you may have not heard before and so um this is a big thing that I think is important for people to know exactly what you guys are approving and what goes on just across the street so um current the contract teams one attending and because of that 43.4 daily average we want to make sure that's increased for safety and as mentioned this is technically considered one of the we don't want to overpower and even by Statute you can't even have one you can't check on the monitor to say oh yeah everybody's good in that cell you have to physically go into each dorm to make sure or sell and make sure that someone's okay once an hour and so by that statue you even when someone's to go on a lunch break or something you have to have someone else that can be there in case anything else happens or everybody has to be in lockdown so that's a lot again more other things we can go into at another time but so again we've greatly drastically increased we're super happy about the Staffing as it is we just do have some progress to be to make moving forward next look choose one we have a question Deputy council president Hull thank you very much thank you for the detailed presentation um so you've you've produced here a couple of comparison models so the Redmond Dispatch Center in the Kirkland City Jail is that the administration's position that these are best practice models for these kind of facilities that we want to go to or is this just something for us you know I I think the purpose of tonight mayor Paulie really wants to focus on these three areas Public Safety infrastructure and Human Services um what we want to try to convey is that we have additional work to evaluate what makes sense for us uh again what you'll hear in human services is very tied to the work that we're doing in police for example we want to continue to go down that road but we realize that's going to be additional resources that we're going to need we think we need to continue to look at dispatch the what happened with our Dispatch Center we can never have that happen again and so training is important supervision is important so we are going to need to continue to look at that on the jail side I think the numbers kind of speak for themselves we we need to continue to invest those resources the comparisons are really illustrative only they're not meant to be a model that we're looking specifically to follow but clearly other agencies see that there's needed Resources with even less uh that calls for service less folks in the jail so we want to share that with you as well as the concerns we have on human services and on the infrastructure program that we have again when we have a budget like this um it's very easy to say wow we're doing a lot we're hiring people there's lots of Revenue and that's all true but as we look moving forward mayor Paulie wants to make sure that we convey the message to the council that there's still work to be done in future years and so this is I think a snapshot on some of the challenges we face in police I guess in closing the where you're going to move forward and with moving forward in the next two years are going to continue that recruitment we're going to continue that retention we're going to also continue the the calls for service and the Staffing to make sure we keep the calls for service and the time span in what we get those calls to our response times down and the overall Staffing itself and the equipment needs of the police department I did what we've put together Ryan's put together with a lot of information that I emailed to the council also is what I don't believe has done before is a biannual report and I emailed that to you this evening so that's for your look at your leisure which gives a big bigger overview worldly overview and then there will be an annual report that we'll get at the end of the year of all of 2022 that but I'm more than happy to field questions via email or at another time but I wanted you to know more information elaborating more on what we've given you is available so that's all and we've got a question councilmember Joe thank you Paula Schwann thank you for this presentation it's nice that you've come into this position as Chief and you've gotten right to work we appreciate the hard work that you put forward when you put equipment needs on your Public Safety looking forward slide over and above the cameras for our correction officers and police officers are there other items that you would like us to think about either for this budget or for next budget that we should be keeping front of mind the biggest thing I think and it was mentioned previously were the the vehicles and that's been put in put in the budget for the next couple of years spanned out for realistically because they're they're not inexpensive let's put it that way and so I think that's the biggest thing as far as Finance everything else has been in the works the city's been great and you all have been very very helpful in getting us to where we need to be and so there are some equipment things but they're all been working and they're more it's a group efforts whether it be with human services as well as efforts with other facilities and different things so thank you chief for that answer also with the the request to have officers have the ability to take their cars home at night when they go home what does that provide for us what's the extra Delta that we get as a community when our officers have their cars at home as we look at it it's a little bit of a large expenditure but there's quite a safety and Public Safety Improvement that we get if you could comment on what we why we want to have that in our budget couple of things one of the top things is obviously retention and recruitment that's a big piece to have take home Vehicles because majority of agencies have take home Vehicles these days so that is a big thing as far as retention goes especially with gas prices so you can imagine but more importantly for the community itself it's their response time so in the event there is a you know God forbid an emergency in our city that is necessary for response time for one detective to come out or for four officers to show up if we have something that takes place that response time is much more expeditious because they have the vehicle there it has all their gear specifically in it versus them having to get in and grab their gear to get back out on the street once they do get to the station so those are the biggest pieces there's also a presence in the community for people to see our logo our City's name even in their communities wherever they're living and those are the biggest pieces in having in their equipment ready and to respond in a global situation so to our community being able to have that available and them to respond the same goes for those other agencies outside those officers if we had an emergency would also respond from their homes to our agent to our city as well thank you that's that's a great answer I would also just add that uh when I see a sheriff's uh car in the parking lot for the apartment down the street I feel a little bit safer in my community even though it's a King County sheriff or when I see the Seattle motorcycle cop come down from Sammamish and heading in on I-90 every day I feel a little more safe on the road so I I think it's part of the the inter-jurisdictional relationship that we have with all of our neighbors when our officers go home they're in the community they help the community feel a little more safe and a little bit more secure along the way and some of their officers are certainly in our communities as well so I I would fully support that request as we go forward thank you thank you councilmember thank you for the opportunity to present today good evening council members this is Monica Grillo I'm gonna provide an overview for the Human Services budget priorities first I'm going to begin with um just a brief um background then highlight of the creation of the Human Services Division and our work over the last couple of years next I'm gonna provide some details on the emergency housing program that we are proposing in this upcoming budget in particular and then I'm gonna end with a couple of future considerations next slide please thank you Robert uh so I can't believe this all happened in the last couple of years but it did our city took a new approach to Human Services in back in 2020 on one end with some organizational restructuring the Human Services functions move to parks and Community Services Under the great leadership of Jeff Watling also we had covet happening I'm sure that does not surprise to any of us so with that just last year in 2021 launched the behavioral health and the homeless Outreach programs since then we combined those programs to better leverage resources also last year following a year-long community work and work with the Human Services Commission we launched the equity board and we also started work on the Human Services needs assessment that then led us to the Human Services strategic plan that was adopted earlier this year um and so that takes us to present time when we are looking at the upcoming budget now that we have a human services strategic plan we are trying to use that as a guide and part of that we are going to look at some Strategic investment so I'm going to talk about that in just a couple of minutes but before I head there next slide please um this is just a brief um kind of like visual of the current Human Services functions back in 2020 Human Services functions were really reduced to basically Grant Administration and attending some local and Regional meetings that was a one staff me and myself and I type of uh of functions since then I like to to call our community needs our Human Services planning functions we have a one FTE human services coordinator position for that we also have a part-time Human Services assistant a 0.25 in our budget that helps our with events and translations as well as collaborations for our local Partners in with our community Court you know that as well our Behavioral Health functions and homeless Outreach functions there are two separate on your screen again we have two full-time ftes for that and we can combine the programs but in functions they are pretty separate sort of separate needs and last but not least we also do the community Equity initiatives and the staff liaison to the equity board as you know and then also we lead the cultural conversations and any inclusion events and diversity related events in the community so with that as I promised I'm going to talk to you a little bit about our biggest asks in in the upcoming budget for Human Services and that is an emergency housing program next slide please Robert thank you um I like this I I borrowed this visual from the King County Regional homelessness Authority I think it's a it's a really um provides a good visual and defines the uh the concept that we want to propose and the housing Continuum um the emergency housing program really um Bridges the gap between the current uh emergency shelter the traditional shelter model and permanent housing and it also provides a good alternative to uh to that model we learned that the congregate model really is not helping people move and and towards bettering their lives so much we learned with covet also the capacity of that system is really really overloaded so we hope and we would like to propose like a transitional model if you wish that can provide people a safer and a more dignified way to um to receive services is while they are waiting for permanent housing or or while they are waiting for employment where they can successfully find housing on their own so with that next slide please why are we proposing this project and why now on one end now we have data that we can back up the needs that we saw in the community the homeless outreach program um as you may remember we launched a homeless dashboard earlier this year our pilot program with that project really gave us the opportunity to really learn and see what homelessness looks like in Issaquah so we have that data also with that we identified it as a priority in the Human Services strategic plan and last but not least even more importantly I think it's also a timely opportunity for us as we build great relationships with Motel 6 here in Issaquah over the last couple of years that's great collaboration it's it's just also timely opportunity that we can leverage that so with that what are we proposing in particular with the the project we hope to rent 12 rooms it's a pilot project we want to to to start somewhere where hopefully we can handle it uh starting to rent with 12 rooms both single and double occupancy rooms we would like to identify a service provider that will work one-on-one with individuals enrolled in that program to make sure that they have their basic needs met but also to make sure that the service connections are happening that people are working actively towards their goals for permanent housing and for also other employment and other service goals that they might have um and last but not least we would love to continue and we would want to continue the collaboration with Motel 6 on their end we will rely on them for amenities utilities security overnight parking and whatnot um so we have currently uh proposed in that budget 700 000 for that project um per year um so with that um next slide please estimated timeline um a timeline okay great thank you estimated timeline for the project we started public conversations on on this project back in June very very grateful and appreciate the conversation with that we had with the council services safety and Parks committee since then we also engaged with some social service providers with some businesses here in Issaquah including the chamber we also went and actually had a great conversation with our partners at the police department the other day so we we really engaged with with Community next we are here we are starting budget Council deliberations and so with anticipated budget adoption hopefully and your support in November we really hope to start the project sometimes in the first quarter of 2023 um and so with that that's just a brief high level overview I can ask for questions yeah Deputy council president Hall but thank you Monica just a super quick one so um out of those Community conversations all the feedback we received were supportive very supportive yes okay great thank you um okay so just a few things looking ahead as we continue in 2023 to implement the Human Services strategic plan and continue the work that that we um created a foundation for over the last couple of years there are two things that we would really want to focus on in addition to what I just highlighted on one end we would like to further grow and formalize our collaboration for a meaningful crisis response in our city and that involves our Issaquah Police Department Eastside fire rescue and Human Services we really would like to even consider exploring a joint response models and find ways to better leverage the limited resources and then last but not least as we continue the work on equity and that work is just going to continue to grow and develop both internally and in the community we will look at evaluating capacity needs and and see where where that work might lead um so with that I'm available for questions thank you I'm not seeing any questions right now thank you for the overview thank you Monica I'm sorry real quick question so the looking forward like crisis response looking forward these are things that are scopes of work that are covered in the next year the next time not looking forward like post budget yes yes thank you good evening uh I'm Andrea Snyder Deputy City administrator and I am here to talk to you about infrastructure our final of the three Focus areas for the budget and [Music] um we have a very aggressive Capital work plan in this next biennium 63 million dollars across all of our funds for the next two years and I'm going to talk to you a little bit about some of the highlights from that Capital plan not going into every detail or even every type of infrastructure you'll notice so I don't talk about sewer and not so much about facilities but I just really wanted to hit the highlights for you this evening and so first let's start with transportation slide please we are increasing some investment in our deferred maintenance with this proposed budget that means five million dollars over the biennium for pavement management and 3.4 for concrete management we talked about some of this a little bit in July when we talked about the community investment strategy and how to use some of our ending fund balance and concrete management is certainly something that we've heard from the community that there's a need for investment in our sidewalks and reducing trip hazards Etc so this proposed budget includes our response to that we also have a focus on multi-modal and Mobility connections this is just a sample of some of the things that are in the proposed budget the community Mobility investment survey projects the survey is out right now here's my Shameless plug for anybody watching to fill out that survey and let us know what priorities they have we have two million dollars in arpa funds for some of these Mobility projects across the city and so we look forward to seeing what the community has to say about that getting those results coming back to council and talking about what those priorities are that we've heard we also have planned for the next biennium squawk Mountain multimodal Improvement study we've heard from the community this is also a priority for them and wanting to have more access to the rest of the city with um walking and biking paths Northwest Sammamish Road non-motorized improvements also known affectionately as pinchpoint by some this is also a work that will begin in terms of design over the next two years Central Issaquah multimodal I-90 Crossing and Light Rail station planning that's also incorporated into this project that study will also begin next year we talked about that again past in in July of this year and we look to complete our Transit study which will then guide future Transit Investments and also policies getting ready for that light rail station and improving Transit connections along the way in addition to all of these efforts for our Capital plans we're also importantly looking at the transportation concurrency plan and updating that next year we're doing some modeling this year and next year we will add ask and answer the question of how does our concurrency plan currently align with the master Mobility plan and do we need to make changes to that and again for concurrency that helps us ensure that growth pays for growth that we're keeping our infrastructure up to date as the city continues to grow next slide please um Deputy City administrator Senator we have a question from Deputy council president Hall sorry thank you just another quick clarifying question so uh concrete management under deferred maintenance is contemplated or proposed a 3.4 million which is um quite a bit more than what was contemplated in the tip so did I hear that that is a product of what we've heard from the community in terms of it being a priority yes yes we have a number of reported concern requests for trip hazards on sidewalks across the city that our previous levels of funding we're making it difficult to make progress on so one of the things that we have talked about when we talked about the community investment strategy and investment in our maintenance of our infrastructure is trying to make some Headway on improvements to our sidewalks reducing trip hazards making sure that those connections are well maintained for the community and so it's something that we do want to uh that we're proposing an influx and funding for the biennium just so that we can help get caught up on some of those requests from the community great so parks and trails I'm sure we're all on the same page here great so for parks and trails certainly director Watling is here and he can speak a little bit more if you have specific questions but for some of the capital projects again just hitting the highlights within this proposed budget looking at that again the community investment strategy you're going to see a lot of this throughout the proposed budget that anchor Park project is referred to in the proposed budget as a community park project I know that director Watling has been working with the Parks Board on what their recommendations are and that's something we anticipate to come back to council with more information on uh the Creekside and Hillside Acquisitions we've talked about this also through the process of the community investment strategy discussions and increasing our investment in that fund to be able to acquire strategic Creekside and Hillside properties to help us achieve the the green necklace and other goals within our Park strategic plan we also have highlighted as capital project a dog park for the city improvements to Hillside Park and the park strategic Plan update uh in addition past that looking at maintenance of our Parks there's Trail maintenance uh in the budget there's a new volunteer coordinator for green Issaquah that will help connect Issaquah residents who want to volunteer and plant trees and do other things to help maintain some of our great assets here that that volunteer will help coordinate those opportunities with residents interested we also have new Investments for better stewardship of trees looking at creating an urban Forest management plan and an urban Forest supervisor will be a new City Arborist position that's also in the proposed budget next slide just one moment we've got councilmember Wright just to clarify those last couple things are not capital projects those are ongoing operating budget things right yes that's correct so some of these things um are within the operating budget some of them are capital requests but all of them are um projects or programs around these Focus areas of related to infrastructure so we think about Parks as part of our infrastructure Network there may be ongoing expenses that we um that we take on for the maintenance of that infrastructure but we would take them on even if we weren't making investments in say a dog park or yes okay that's that's really my point it's it's they're too maybe touching but separate ideas correct great then we move on to utilities and uh just some brief things to highlight here in terms of capital projects and also maintenance of our assets we have more money in the proposed budget for water main replacement we heard some concerns about concrete asbestos pipes and we do have some of those in Issaquah that we have been replacing and we are speeding up the replacement of those pipes in order to do that we also enter just to keep up on some of our maintenance needs for our aging infrastructure we've requested an additional maintenance worker in water to help us replace those pipes and service especially some of the neighborhoods that have been having increased problems with aging infrastructure and also an additional administrative specialist for customer service related to water and our water customers for storm water system we look to complete the storm and surface water master plan and begin implementation of that plan and we also have a number of projects related to Creek restoration Bank stabilization Etc again I'm just hitting the highlights here there's a lot more within the budget but didn't want to go over every single thing tonight with you next slide so that's a brief a summary of the infrastructure related and some of the maintenance things that are in the proposed budget around infrastructure things that we're looking forward to over the next biennium as well Asset Management it's something that's within our strategic plan to enhance our asset management program it's something that is underway right now and we look to really have a robust effort over the next two years to create really a new Asset Management program that will help us more proactively maintain our assets also we've talked a lot about the community investment strategy that's exhibited throughout the proposed budget we still plan on coming back to council to continue discussions over long-term funding for transportation in parks as well as for facility needs we didn't talk about facility needs a lot tonight but we do have some urgent facility needs as we've discussed in the past and when we last had this discussion with Council we said we would come back in the first part of next year to have a discussion on how to fund those facility needs and we intend to follow through with that in addition we are doing an assessment of the condition of our facilities and what our needs are given the working from home policies that we've had and how much space we need as we look to the Future needs of the city for our facilities so that is all coming to you at a later date for more thoughtful and robust discussion than we can have here tonight um finally next year is a big Capital Improvement Plan update and so all of these plans that we've been talking about the surface and storm water master plan facilities Etc will then inform the capital Improvement Plan update that we undergo next year so at this time I'd like to welcome a public works director Emily moon to say a few words it is her third day back with the city and we are very happy to have her good evening happy to be here just very briefly want to say hello again and convey to you how excited I am to be here and looking forward to Leading this team and doing a whole host of good work over the next several years but in particular for tonight's Focus over the next two Andrea mentioned earlier that we have an aggressive Capital work program that is true we have some very unique opportunities I think in our funding abilities and as you have authorized additional Staffing we're in a position now where we feel we can take on more projects and more complex projects as well however uh because it is aggressive we need to be very thoughtful about how we pursue the projects and so we're going to be spending quite a bit of time getting organized part of that organization is of course filling our empty seats and making sure that we retain our high quality employees who are ready to hit the ground running on these projects we have encountered some success in filling many positions they've run the gamut and we have had great new hires that have been more entry-level less experienced and also very senior well-experienced employees so we have a really what I think is a wonderful mix those newer maybe less experienced employees though require a little more time and attention to get them up to speed to be able to execute on these projects and then lastly all of you know about the supply chain issues those are ongoing and we're just going to have to continue to monitor that and communicate with you and residents about impacts to projects as we proceed thank you so unless there's any questions next I think is Susie who is up all right uh so I will be taking over uh pretty much through the end of this presentation um so starting with the proposed Personnel adjustments included in this budget um next slide please thank you thank you um some of these have already been touched on this evening so I'll be running through these fairly quickly but in total the proposed budget adds 17 and a half ftes or full-time equivalents over the 2022 adopted budget these include within parks and Community Services a recreation coordinator for specialized Recreation a recreation leader in Aquatics the urban Forest supervisor that was mentioned earlier along with the volunteer coordinator which is proposed at half an FTE as well as extending the Arts coordinator from a 0.75 FTE to a full-time FTE um again as already mentioned this evening within the police department we'll be adding a corrections officer a police record specialist and two police officers in 2024. in public works the proposed budget includes an administrative specialist and an additional maintenance worker depending on one to three depending on qualifications and both of those are dedicated to the water utility in Human Resources the proposed budget extends or makes permanent the Recruitment and Retention coordinator that was a limited term employee in the 22 budget and in finance we propose that in a budget analyst um next slide please in administrative Services again another limited term position in the 22 budget proposed to be made permanent is the police systems and GIS analyst in the executive department it proposes a sustainability coordinator this was a a coveted reduction so this would be restoring that position in community Planning and Development we'd be adding an affordable housing planner and the proposed budget also includes six new ltes including a building inspector a senior applications analyst that's in the I.T division a transportation program coordinator and those two were both included in the 22 budget as a limited term as well they would be extending them through 2024 a management fellow that would be in the finance department in Economic Development coordinator and a program manager to assist with asset management and one thing I want to note here too is the proposed budget does also include a limited term Parks planning and project coordinator that was approved this year as part of that Capital Finance task force recommendations it's not included in this list as this had already been approved by Council but I did want to make note that that is included in the budget so this is our annual fde's per capita table it is a lot but the Blue Line represents population over time the orange line is ftes over time and the green filled portion is the ftes per capita so the 22 adopted budget has us at about 269 ftes the 23 proposed budget brings us back up to 287 ftes and it's interesting to note though that the pre-pandemic maximum so the 2020 adopted budget had us at 286 ftes which is only one FTE lower than the 23 proposed budget uh next slide please um so we've heard some overviews from the key priorities within this proposed budget but there are a few other items that we would like to highlight so the other general fund highlights starting with so we'd be Shifting the Fleet Services Division from Public Works to administrative Services administrative Services being created with this year's budget really focused on those city-wide internal customer service um services so that is a good home for Fleet as Artie mentioned the we'd be creating a new natural resources team within park operations adding that Urban Forest supervisor which would be overseeing that that team the volunteer coordinator and they'd be developing that urban forestry plan and it's the it's a it'll the goal of this team is to provide the city with a more focused approach to Forest management overall health and stewardship of our tree canopy and a better ability to line volunteer efforts with these with these important environmental goals the next item is the again I already mentioned this evening the bi-annual Community survey which was last conducted last year in 2021 to learn more about how the community perceives city services and is of course quality of life um the title 18 whiteboard which is high level here but includes the exploration of the middle income housing the central Issaquah parking analysis a stream buffer analysis and the transfer of development rights and Landscape conservation and local infrastructure program or l-clip feasibility study and I believe this last piece is anticipated to be discussed in the next Planning Development and environment committee um meeting so the next item is the state required comprehensive Plan update that's also in the community Planning and Development Department continued restoration of the Recreation services following pandemic reductions the park strategic Plan update and the last part strategic plan was adopted in 2018 and was recommended to be updated every six years so this is following that recommendation the proposed budget also includes continued Equity training and finally the Public Works facility tenant improvements to better accommodate engineering staff following the closure of City Hall Northwest next slide please so this slide gives an overview of the allocation of the American Rescue plan act or arpa disbursement the proposed budget allocates quite a bit of this so we've seen some of this allocated over time over the last few years the city received in total a little over 11 million dollars half of it dispersed in 2021 and the other half in 2022 to date the city has already appropriated about 2.2 million including these items here the recovery coordinator return to office Newport South Sr 900 to Southeast 54th Street improvements Northwest Sammamish Road non-motorized improvements and rental assistance but the proposed budget allocates the remaining 8.9 million um including the 2 million in the community Mobility investment fund mentioned earlier an additional 600 000 to the Northwest Sammamish road now motorized improvements the uh is a central Issaquah multimodal I-90 crossing the also mentioned earlier this evening the community park investment and the annual concrete maintenance program so this kind of all in one slide how that 11 million is allocated some of it already some of it now in this proposed budget next slide please other fun highlights so um the lodging tax advisory committee fund within this budget it increases marketing Services by 30 000 over 2022 for tourism promotion I should note here too that in the proposed document it held ltac funding um to status quo 2022 but following the recommendation from ltac it does increase by thirty thousand so I do want to note that that is a slight adjustment from what was in the document but reflecting LTX recommendation the municipal art fund as we talked about with Council last year during budget deliberations the art fund was hit very hard by the pandemic the main funding source in that fund is admissions tax which is primarily for movie theaters which was non-existent during the pandemic so this proposed budget proposes a one-time infusion from the general fund to maintain 22 funding levels and continue that same level of service as 2022 but a work plan item for 2023 would be looking at long-term funding for that fund as well as what um Services the city would like to see come out of that that activity and finally in the medical Insurance Fund we don't typically highlight funds like this but for this particular year given the the shift the anticipated shift for um medical employee medical to the association of Washington City's pool from a self-insured model it does the proposed budget does greatly reduce the expenditures out of that fund so it will look dramatically different from prior years and what in the proposed budget but we'll also be looking over the course of the next year so as we wind down that fund what those next steps will look like for that fund and we have a question councilmember hunt thank you on the municipal art fund do we have a sense if the ticket sales have returns to pre-pandemic levels um going forward yet that is a great question they have not so far um they have come back a bit um but we have not seen anywhere near the same level activity as we did pre-pandemic okay thank you and council member Joe thank you budget manager could you go back a couple of slides I just had a question about the ti improvements um one more slide the Public Works facility tenant improvements just so I'm matching it up into the budget document is that fc020 the parking building expansion that's correct okay thank you I appreciate that all right uh next slide please to sustainability thank you so as the council may recall we earlier this year signed a new contract for Solid Waste Services in the city and Solid Waste Services and that and the administrative fee that we get from the provider is the main funding source for the sustainability fund so the sustained we wanted to take a moment this evening to go a little bit deeper into sustainability than perhaps we had do in a typical year and how we're going to be allocating some of the larger fund balance that we've seen over the last couple of years as well as what the proposed budget includes for that admin fee so the sustainability fund it is proposed as mentioned earlier that we restore that sustainability coordinator that had been a coveted reduction and that the that staff will also help in assisting the ins in the support of the management of the that Recology contract which was awarded earlier this year for that waste diversion targets but the the the big increase in expenditures for the sustainability fund for 23 and 24 is the preliminary steps for uh the icap implementation or the Issaquah climate action plan so that's that's going to include the reducing ghg emissions from existing buildings incentivizing green buildings and reducing ghg emissions in residential buildings reducing ghg emissions from Municipal operations sequestering carbon expanding access to EV charging and engaging the community and Youth slide please so the proposed way that these ads will be funded so primarily especially for icap implementation the we are proposing a strategic spend down of that fund balance for those items over the next two years um in addition for more of the ongoing activity within that fund the staff time the contract management we propose adjusting the feed model for the new Recology contract so as a refresher the current contract which ends in mid-2023 we have a nine percent admin fee and that is collected directly into the sustainability fund and that average is about 550 000 a year in the new contract we are proposing a six percent admin fee and it's important to note that while we're reducing that percentage because the contract itself is higher due to increased rates we'd still see approximately the same amount of Revenue it would be holding Revenue at about 600 to 650 000 a year and that um that percentage based in this new contract that again starts mid next year is not locked in for the duration of the contract we have the ability to negotiate that fee each year so it's proposed that really this admin fee covers those ongoing costs and we use fund balance especially in those next two years for those one-time initial ad cap implementation pieces paint uh next slide please um also as mentioned earlier turning to the city's utility funds the city adopted its last utility rate study in 2020 with rate increases set through 2025. for 2023 and 2024 the city adapted a seven and a half percent increase each year in the water utility three and a half percent each year in the sewer utility for the city's portion there's also a county fee within the City utility and that is they recently adopted that at 5.75 percent in 23 and five and a half percent in 24 and the city's utility or storm water utility rates were in that rate study at five and a half percent each year so since this last three study was adopted in 2020 it couldn't have anticipated some of the challenges we've seen recently so things like Staffing constraints resulting from the pandemic supply chain delays and the the level of inflation observed in recent years in particular so with that in mind the proposed budget includes funds to conduct an updated rate study within the next couple of years which is slightly ahead of schedule for it ending in 2025 to ensure that the city has the needed funds to continue to maintain service levels and water sewer and storm water utilities next line please so we've touched on many capital projects already this evening throughout the key priorities but the proposed budget includes as mentioned a robust capital investment plan as summarized here and the proposed budget besides the items already mentioned this evening does include as you can see here investments from in the city's utilities Transportation Systems Mobility infrastructure Parks trails and Facilities but also as mentioned earlier this evening the city will also be conducting that biennial update to the capital Improvement plan next year forecasting Capital funding and investments from 2024 through 2029 as a six-year CIP a slide please understanding that we provided a lot of information tonight and the budget itself is pretty large the Administration has summarized several areas in which we're seeking feedback from the council as you begin deliberations this evening thank you so these policy questions are does the council support the overall general fund balancing strategy for this biennium including the 17 percent undesignated fund balance as a percent of expenditures the end of 2024. strategies to reduce the personnel underspend and the underspend in general support the discussing a long-term Revenue strategy does the council support the proposed Revenue adjustments including taking the one percent increase to the property tax levy increasing CPD permit fees increasing Recreation fees and increasing the increase to the municipal court and jail correction contracts with partner jurisdictions and finally does the council support the proposed salad waste admin fee of six percent and I'm sure we'll be coming back to these questions throughout deliberations as well as if the council would like to add any additional questions for consideration um next slide please so where we go from here uh the uh we'll be returning to the council with various legislation to enact this proposed budget including in the property tax ordinance the budget ordinance the salary ordinance and a an adjustment to those CPD permit fee increases in particular next slide please so we're putting this Council schedule back up I believe we have one more slide here but with the conclusion of that slide our next budget touch point will be October 3rd this coming Monday with uh the anticipated action of opening the public hearings for property tax ordinance and the budget ordinance itself and deliberations will continue on from there next slide please so for the final slide here we did want to touch on questions um and we are of course happy to take any questions this evening following this presentation but we also provided a link for questions like prior budget Cycles those instructions were provided on September 8th and staff will be providing rolling responses to those questions with the first batch provided with the packet for the October 10th Committee of the whole and to ensure a response before final deliberations on November 7th we ask that questions be submitted by October 31st and with that uh we are open to any questions please okay I'm not seeing any questions at this point so obviously we will come back to deliberation comments conversation there um oh we do have a question Deputy council president Hull I keep coming in late um question for Deputy State administrator Snyder Capital Finance Community task force recommendation one of them was around um our general fund fun fund balance and bringing that down to kind of the lower level of our financial policy did we have a was the recommendation at a specific amount like 17 or 15 of expenditures or was it just to lower it uh the recommendation was to lower it okay there wasn't anything talk it wasn't a specific percentage councilmember hunt thanks um so these are two questions that clarify some of the aspects of the administration's policy questions one there was a question about the staff or Personnel underspend do we have a sense of what that actually has been over the last couple years because I know we're increasing or proposed to increase from one to three percent but it would be good to know what it what the actual is since we're trying to more closely match the reality the councilmember hunt uh so for 2021 the underspend was pretty significant and that's just because of vacancies and vacancies you know if you have services that are provided by employees and you're vacant those positions obviously the services were reduced so part of it was the uncertainty of covet as well what the city could get to that was part of the underspan last year especially with capital projects when we're going into this year um the HR staff and police especially have made a lot of strides in filling those vacant positions but we're still running a vacancy rate at the city at it is it's getting better it's improving but it is still over 10 percent right now but it has dramatically improved since the beginning of the year so that's part of it and um that's part of the underspend and so that's why we're looking at next year we had budgeted one percent in the budget this year for 22 but we're we're confident that if the trend continues uh three percent is a rational number for the 23 24 biennium at this point and if I could add the three more precise to the answer council member Hunt's question uh it's been more than three percent in 22-21 so I think the numbers as Mr mood just said we think is appropriate going forward but the number has been much more than that the last couple of years okay so the the question one of the policy questions was about um if we supported that do you expect then to continue to sort of revisit this every year and try to more closely match what we're seeing until a certain circumstances change I mean if we find ourselves fully staffed all the time then I think we would want to revisit that we don't anticipate that happening uh in the foreseeable future okay great yeah so I think that answers my question I was wondering um if the goal was to match what we were what we were observing and I think I think it is and recognizing that that will change it's the match actual yes and councilmember Hunt I think you said you had two questions did you have another I did um could you bring up the policy questions it's I think one slide back the site oh yeah I remember um so um you mentioned the one of the policy questions about being about the revenue sources and one of those being the um the recreation fees I did notice in the budget that it um says that the mayor um has the ability to increase these fees because they're pursuant to to pursuant to an IMC 3.59 to approve inflationary adjustments and so I wondered if this is something that um actually is within council's purview if it can be done by mayoral Authority so one wanted clarification on that Jeff Watling has been sitting quietly patiently in the back so we'll let him come up and make it worth his while to be here this evening generally speaking though we want to get the council's feedback on all fees including those under statute that the mayor could adjust I think if we're hearing from the council something different we'd like to hear that Jeff is that about yeah boy thanks for that City administrator Bob Coates the opportunity to speak good evening Council so yeah the IMC does speak to mayor's Authority up to inflationary I think it's up to seven percent that same IMC though references that staff will come and update city council and inform Council of those of those increases okay thank you okay so seeing no other questions and City administrator Bob quits uh first of all let me thank the council for your patience we came in pretty close to the 90 minutes that we promised um this is the completion of our presentation of the budget so for the remaining meetings we have no other uh presentations planned um we will come back ready uh to answer any additional questions that you have uh walk through the uh questions that the Administration has proposed any questions that the council itself would like to have but there is no other planned presentations by the administration at this time thank you okay well we will certainly talk about that in our deliberation commentary and everything um do we have a public comment period at this point then okay so asking if there is anyone um online I see no one in the room that is public and not staff so if there's anyone online that would like to make a comment at this point please if you're on the phone press star three if you're on a computer or smartphone you can raise your virtual hand and so I will take a moment and ask the clerk if we have anyone indicating a desire to speak council president we do have a few members of the public attending virtually at this point I am not seeing that anyone desires to speak I do see one hand raised I think it's a carryover from the early comment but let me just quickly check in with Elizabeth I'm unmuting you now did you wish to make comments regarding the budget at this time uh no thank you okay so I don't see anyone else wishing to speak okay so now it becomes our turn again um so I think you know we certainly have the administration's questions that we can go through as far as those policy questions and maybe one of the things that Deputy council president Hall and I were thinking about was our goal isn't necessarily to have the answers tonight but to help Define what what the conversation looks like for the rest of our budget cycle so toward that idea um the two of us had kind of sat down and come up with some other potential budget policy questions that might shape that conversation so let me ask the question first do we're just at the very beginning of our budget cycle do we feel comfortable answering these questions or do we feel more comfortable talking about whether those are the appropriate questions to kind of guide our conversation on the budget seeing no one council member hunt uh things so um there was also a couple questions that were emailed out that I think were um higher level in a way I do appreciate that some of these uh are are high level as far as the general fund um balancing strategy for example but I think From council's perspective I think it would also be useful to address those questions that were in that email the first one was about you know reflecting on the retreat and and I think um does this uh align with our expectations coming out of the retreat so I would like to see those addressed I think we could also potentially get into at least a higher level ones um that are put forward here with our first impressions based on the presentation we heard tonight okay anyone else we're kind of trying to frame up part of what you know do we have the information have we kind of absorbed the information from the budget enough to answer some of these these questions that have been presented and then how do we want to shape out the conversation for the remainder of the budget period in previous budgets we've done a good job of kind of pulling out the policy questions that are presented in the budget so that we can really focus our time and have those meaningful conversations so part of that is maybe getting a little bit of feedback on that as a process and also what some of those potential questions are so council member Ray I shall jump in I thought the retreat we had was really good in terms of setting priorities and saying these are things that we wanted to do and I think what I heard councilmember hunt just say is I'd like to see some sort of a crosswalk that says here's what we've talked about during the treat and here's where it's reflected in the budget I think that would really be helpful to say yeah we're walking the talk I think the budget is a policy document but more it's a priority document so are the priorities that we talked about are those reflected and um and then we can you know say yes and and are they adequately addressed so from my perspective that would be the next step for us is to say yes you you heard us and you reflected our priorities in this document and yes you um the the degree to which you've funded and prioritized them is appropriate or not appropriate so toward that end one of the things that Deputy council president Hall and I were talking about was potentially taking one of our budget meetings or part of one of our budget meetings and asking staff to bring us information on either all of the priority One groupings that we had for operations and capital or going down into priority two as well which was a rather large group but perhaps it could come in priority two come in a memo form while the priority one is really our discussion so does that seem to meet your needs for getting the information on does this budget hit those things that we've prioritized seeing some nods okay sounds good fantastic um so then some of the other things that the the budget has pulled out is this General strategy of spending down the fund the ending fund balance and so we're certainly seeing that as a part of the general fund that was something that came out of the community financing task force we've talked about it a lot in previous budgets and so do we want to use that as like a thumbs up thumbs down do we want to use that as a conversation point is that something we feel strongly about talking about or do we feel like that's something that we have already agreed upon through many many conversations council member uh Mart thank you council president um so this whole conversation is is interesting and it it would seem if a if a alien were to come in and observe us this evening wondering why otherwise normally talkative body as being sort of unusually shine reticent but I mean I think it traces back to the fact that we did have an unusually well aligned Council and administration in The Last Retreat and the budget as far as I can tell thus far reflects it well although I agree with council member Ray I would like to see more specific you know here's you ask you know here's eight things you asked for and here's how how they're all in here traceability Matrix is what we call it in engineering but yeah I mean this this you know undesignated fund balance is something that we've talked about a lot and this appears to be exactly what we asked for and so I as much as I would love to gnash my teeth and Rend my garments and um and stress over this budget there's really just not a lot to stress over so um however you see fit to want to structure this conversation you know we could do the you know sort of spoon feed each question the way um uh city clerk Geezer did for our uh manual you know Council manual update where where you know just walk through these issues and then you know that would that would be one way to potentially do it but they're just there's just not a lot of drama this year and so I feel sort of bad that you know like I said if somebody were to be observing us it'd be like why doesn't these care it's not that it's just that a lot of these things have are arriving pre-baked because we spent a lot of time on them so I'm I'm eager to get going with it which isn't to say to do it tonight um but you know I'm I'm hoping that we will get through this process fairly quickly um like I said starting with you know just a little bit more on on how it reflects our priorities but then just dive into line these questions up and knock them down thanks okay so so far I'm hearing uh first of all I very much appreciate that and I'm totally in alignment with you that we were able to speak our minds early we have a lot of community feedback that has led to this the Administration has listened and we're seeing all of this as it comes through what I'm hearing is there's still an interest in a meeting on the July budget priority setting exercise and how this budget proposes to meet those and what the scope of that is so that's a good conversation and then we always have our opportunity to share questions on SharePoint get that over to the budget team and then potentially have a meeting along with rolling answers coming from them on any of the details as we get into some of those [Music] um Deputy council president Hall do you have anything else you want to share on kind of our our thoughts on what the budget priorities and what those conversations look like well I guess um a response to you it's slash potential question for safety administrator Bob kowitz's art was it staff's hope that we would provide Direction on some of these questions tonight or in the very least layout you know which ones we think are going to require as we've been kind of discussing now which ones we think are going to require more of a council discussion is this we were certainly not looking for answers this evening okay we were trying to kind of set the table uh council president I think uh what I'm hearing from the council is that would make sense for us to come prepared to your meeting on October 10th to walk through the budget priorities um I we could prepare a memo which will probably indicate that we are you know the the three quarters of these are budgeted included and there are no questions and maybe there's a quarter that would probably require a little bit more uh explanation so if you'd like we can take a stab at that um you know you you with there's what two Capital uh Priority One projects there are four uh Priority One operating um we could spend a little bit of time uh talking about those um have the rest perhaps as a memo but be able to answer any questions on that would that be useful because I think that if there's concurrence or if there's disagreement we can flush that out right away yeah I think that's certainly what we've heard from the members of council so far council member hunt you had a question uh well it's a it's a comment on that if that's okay um so I I do think that would be helpful I think the memo and having information about how the council Retreat um identified priorities are represented would be useful so the one example that I'm looking at is the green necklace I think there's funding in here for um Park's acquisition and acquisition of lands but I am wondering um what policy decisions what budget related decisions we could make to change the strategy and actually um have the green necklace become a reality because I think we we have gone down a certain path to this point and I think with the support that was indicated by Council I would I would like to explore how we could take a more proactive strategy for the green necklace so that would take I think some some thinking about um but that's the kind of thing that I think it would be useful to have the administration's thoughts on how it's represented currently and what options there are for representing it um in a with more of an emphasis in this two-year budget so I I do think that would be helpful and I just wanted to provide that insight into what kind of information I would be expecting in that meeting sounds good um Deputy council president hall and then councilmember Joe uh thank you and and as um one of couple or one of you know the body Council Members not as Deputy council president I agree with everything that's been said one thing that I want to highlight though in terms of having a deeper Council discussion through the budget process is the solid waste admin fee I would really like to get a better sense of of decreasing it to six percent you know what's the real savings that we get from that and the benefit that is passed on as opposed to keeping it at nine percent with the potential for more capacity for icap implementation so I think that's a policy discussion that that we need to get into a bit more I was uh Curious to get some feedback from the administration on the second big bullet point support discussing the long-term Revenue strategy is that something that we could incorporate into the budget process where the administration is going to bring us back some options in terms of we could tweak this tax or this fee to get additional Revenue in the long term or is this something that's going to be discussed after the budget's over what was kind of the intention for the administration there uh thank you councilmember job members of the council what we wanted to do is kind of raise the flag um and say that this is something we think is an integral part of the future uh budget processes and that's something that we would likely be coming to the council during 23 to talk about further so there's no additional changes that we're asking for but really just want to make sure if the council disagrees and says no we're happy with it and when we run out of money we're running out of money we'll re-prioritize then we don't want to waste the council's time but at this point we feel it would be worth the council's time to have some more discussion starting in 23. okay thank you and my initial thought was that the capital finance committee did some of that work in terms of looking at the revenue sources and what could be tweaked is that your first building block for that conversation and then you get more creative after that uh it's the second building the block is operating okay how do we pay for Police Service we haven't really talked about our fire contract that's a major part of our budget uh it gets raised every year largely out of our control other than the members of the city council that serve on the ephra board so those costs are continuing so while one block is the capital side which we have spent some time talking about uh the administration mayor Paulie believes that the operating side also needs that kind of discussion and and creativity as well okay so if I'm hearing you correctly but it's a bullet point you would like us to keep on the back burner at this point you don't necessarily need an answer through this process but it's something you want us to discuss and keep after the budget keep on the on the burner so to speak as we look toward uh the revenue and the potential for potentially having those two lines crossed where we start running a deficit and and as mayor Paulie came to the council I guess probably close to a year ago and raised the issue on the capital side I think this is the same opportunity to raise it now on the operating side foreign so we've heard now the conversation about the budget priorities and we've had highlighted on that you know the priority One items councilmember hunt mentioned the green necklace I will throw in Title 18 and what the scope of that idea is for the future updates list and then a memo about the priority two items I've now heard one member mention that interested in having a conversation on the proposed Solid Waste administrative fee of six percent and how that relates to potential escrow climate action plan funding are we hearing anyone else in support of that conversation council member hunt yes I am also in support of that and I have um asked a question of our sustainability manager um Stacy about how the uh how the fee at the proposed rate would support completion of the icap so um that question is in the hopper and I think that would be helpful because that gives us a better sense of how our plan that we've adopted would be completed to your to your point about what does this rate um get us so that would be useful to have for that conversation um one other thing on the long-term Revenue strategy I think it would be I agree I think it's a necessary conversation to have I also think it would be good within that conversation to think holistically about how can we maintain level of service that our community expects long term if there are other strategies other than increasing revenues such as Regional shared services or other models that we could look at to maintain the level of service of operation service without running into issues long term that that our long-term budget forecast is currently predicting okay and I will throw in I'm interested in having the solid waste administrative fee conversation similar toward that the sustainability fund is decreasing in value and so I would kind of group some of those ideas in since that's the major funding source so having just a conversation about that toward that idea one of the items that I raised in potential budget policy questions email was that many of the other funds including the Enterprise fund Reit all of those are we're also proposing a significant spend down in their fund balances and so you see decreasing ending fund balance between the 2021 and the 2024 that are shown in the budget we don't really have any adopted fiscal policies for those funds um we do have one for the general fund and so I'm wondering how do we feel about this one-time spending do we want to take a look at any fiscal policies do we you know what what is our thoughts outside of the general fund on the spend down approach is that something we all want to have a conversation about and council president we've not had a chance to react to that email there are policies for some of those funds and so if you'd like perhaps we can add that to the questions uh and and provide that answer thanks to you and then we've just been busy getting ready for tonight and so absolutely like we got that yesterday so we weren't able to respond so we can add that to the list of other responses great um let's see okay I think we're pretty good at this point unless I'm hearing anything so the administration sounds like you're going to come back for the October 10th meeting with that conversation about budget priorities um the seven of us have an assignment to get all of our detailed questions in on the SharePoint link that's in our email by October 1st so we've got only a few more days on that um and then we have October 1st for the October 10th meeting October 31st before adoption okay so over the next several days if you have additional questions we will make every effort to have those answered in time for October 10th okay anything after October 1st likely isn't going to make the the trough for the October 10th questions uh and council president just so I can be a little bit more precise to what you're expecting uh so if we can come back with a a very simple memo on the priority two and priority three level uh and just do a crosswalk to say here's where it is in the budget I think nearly everything is covered in one form or another so if it was just a a a line or two crosswalk back to page numbers that then leaves uh six uh priority level one uh projects and then the discussion regarding the solid waste fee so if we could come and just speak to that versus preparing additional memoranda and have appropriate staff here to speak to that would that be sufficient uh councilmember hunt I think I think um council president Walsh also had the sustainability fund generally in with the solid waste fee question right okay so we can we can speak so it would be the the six priority level ones the six percent Solid Waste fee and then additional conversation more broadly about the sustainability fund that work yeah sounds good okay and then that leaves a whole lot of meetings after this that we have currently set up for budget so if something else comes up as we're kind of having more of these conversations and getting our questions and everything just feel free to reach out and if not I mean as councilmember Mertz said we've done a lot of the work early on so um some of that is reflective of this okay thank you so I think we are pretty good at this point I'm wondering if the council wants to take a five ten minute break before we go into second I've seen one five minute break okay we'll do a five minute break before going into the next item on our agenda we will come back at 8 39. okay we are back from break and ready to take on our second and last item on our agenda tonight which is ID 1087 Regional representation and I will be starting this off and co-presenting with Deputy council president Hall so if you want to go ahead and go to the next slide to show thank you okay so this is a very busy slide um let me take a moment and introduce our conversation here before we really dive into this one of the things that Deputy council president Hall and I wanted to accomplish this year was to take a look at our regional representation all of the positions that we can and do hold within the region within the Puget Sound Regional Council and the sound cities Association and all of those options um and just take a moment and say are we in the right seats are we doing the things that we need to do to represent our community do we see any gaps do we see any opportunities for long-term growth to get into some desired positions things like that so the way that we wanted to pull this together was to look at the um oh I missed a color there darn to look at the strategic plan and see all of those Regional boards and commissions that align with those so in the top right corner that's supposed to be orange which is the growth and development then following around clockwise we've got the boards that we've associated with the environmental stewardship part of our strategic plan then going down to the right the social and economic vitality and those types of plans and our social and economic Vitality portion of the Strategic plan also covers homelessness and those areas so that's what's included in those at the very bottom in purple is kind of the executive or overarching boards that don't have a particular alignment with our strategic plan the continuing on to the left um the items there are related to the city leadership and services a lot of those are related to either utilities or Public Safety things like that and then at the top left we've got the items that are related to Mobility so and then further we've highlighted and bold any of the seats where one of the seven of us or the mayor has a current seat uh we've got an asterisk for kind of those seats where we really have a required position and then a carrot for any of those where there are multiple seats so that we can fill in order to provide opportunities and so this is a it's kind of an open-ended conversation about which seats are important to us as a council and as a community and then how do we put that into action so the sound cities associations put out their call for seats for the next year and applications for those so we have an opportunity to first of all take a look at the seats that we're on are they all serving us well are they worth our time are they providing the community a benefit and then also are there any things that we want to make a priority and then also are there any things that we need to grow into so um I'm gonna move forward I've just got two more slides here and then we can kind of come back to this as a place for our conversation so the next slide please so um part of this is again how do we decide what seats are important which ones are our priority seats are we in those right seats currently are there any additional ones that we should look at and then like I alluded to in some cases you know you have to have an experience in an area in order to be qualified to sit on that seat and so how do we set ourselves up for some of those future positions and then the other part of this conversation is is this just a conversation is this something that we want to consider a change in policy is there is there a policy here or is this just a a framework for um all of us as we're trying to make our own decisions about our own um own positions and then how do we use this um as Council leadership as an outcome of the conversation I think you had had a few conversations about kind of that concept of what other councils are doing around this yeah um well thank you for that introduction um you know just to say that this is completely a function of you know what we consider as important as a council right so in talking with the sound cities Association I've discovered that it's kind of a pretty even split in terms of councils that determine priorities priority appointments that they'd like their council members to to um to sit on and think about it strategically and then there are councils that just kind of say these are opportunities that are available to you in your service as a city council member and if you would like to or if you have experience in this area or interest in this area you can so um you know just to kind of double our ditto the fact that this is really you know what we want to do here do we want to be more strategic or are we fine and satisfied with what we're doing now or are we being strategic now so this is kind of a pretty open-ended conversation but back to you council president Walsh well I think we have a question from council member marks well maybe a comment more than a question um you know one of the things about this is a lot of these bodies have very very different charters so um some of them are very much deliberative bodies that make decisions gmpc is currently in a mode where it's where it makes a lot of decisions psrc executive board RPC uh these are these are these are groups that make a lot of decisions um as opposed to um the affordable housing or what's the regional law safety and Justice committee does is just an informative body it just um it gets people together to inform them of what's going on and and I was on it for years and and I don't think they made a simple decision um uh emac is an example um that of a board that's mostly informative but every couple of years has a decision has decisions to make Emergency Management advisory Council of of King County every couple of years they make a decision on uh some federal grants right but ninety percent of their activity looks a lot more like the regional law safety and Justice so you know that's part of what you have to to look at here one that you don't have on here that is extremely deliberative is Sound Transit board right um Sound Transit board is very hard to get on to our PC is very hard to get out to psrc Executive Board is really hard to get onto right those are all things that a city like ours would be extremely lucky to get on to any of them right and it's one of the reasons why Fred Butler for so long was on the Sound Transit board and that was a very very big deal because the city Lake cars wouldn't otherwise be able to contemplate being on the Sound Transit board so so there's this there's this weird thing of on one axis you could sort of plot how how much does this body impact policy in the county or in or with psrc and then another axis is how hard is it to get into right some of them are reasonably easy to get into and and make some decisions uh I just want to point that out right that there's some of these even though they may dovetail with areas of our interest may not be um you know Emergency Management uh or sorry the regional law safety and Justice these are all topics that I care about a great deal but it was not a you know in the areas where we could move the needle it was mostly just people coming in telling us all the hard work they were doing and the great things they were accomplishing thanks I very much appreciate that as a perspective having served on some of those boards which are very interesting to get the information on but when you're having to choose what is important for your time um the decision-making bodies are certainly at a different level so that's a very good point um Tisha do you want to go to the last slide just to cover that and then we'll go back to the original one so um the 2023 applications for the sound cities Association is due by November 11th so what we're hoping to do is use the feedback and kind of that conversation about what are the outcomes of this meeting to use that to send out an email to everyone to request your areas of interest and then because if we submit to the sound cities Association two people for the same seat they will throw both of them out because they never make a decision about a single City and competition um we are going to review the mayor and I will review your submissions just so that we avoid the duplications and then we will the mayor's office is going to have Juliana coordinate with each of us to submit the application which includes preventing a statement of Interest before the deadline and then obviously we also have another portion of this which is the local appointments like things like the chamber um those will be made in January next year by the council leadership team so while it's part of this conversation it isn't anything we would be taking action on at this point um so at this point I guess I can open up to questions and then see if there's anybody on the line for public comment um any other questions no do we have anybody on the line for public comment no okay I didn't anticipate okay then Tisha could you go back up the two slides to the crazy colorful one with all of that so we can talk through some of these what our experiences with all of them but I really it's it's just a conversation for all of us to have about are there priorities that should we should set how do we want to approach those as we come into application season um what everybody is thinking so I appreciated councilmember March talking about the difference between a decision-making body and a an informational body um do you would it would it be useful to use the long time experience of certain members who have had experience on some of these to kind of have an internal list that we keep up that's like these are the ones we consider decision makings these are the ones we consider informational absolutely I think that a good step is to ask all of us who have experience I mean I've done I don't know seven or eight of these um over the years and ask all of us who have experience with them provide some feedback to to the rest of the council um on whether it's right how much it's deliberative how hard it might be uh to get into and uh yeah okay council member hunt um yeah I think that's a great idea I think one other helpful addition would be the amount of of time commitments not only meetings we do have a list that has gone out previously with calls for these positions that has the the meeting time but some of them also have like a Caucus meeting Associated or other prep meetings with staff or or other you know hundreds of pages of material or whatever it may be and so that would also be good to get for for remember for council members that have been on these committees to get their sense of of not only the meeting time required but also just the total um commitment in in terms of effort to serve on the committee yeah the only thing I would add to the assessing them from a deliberative point of view even the ones that are informational how important that information would or could be to us I'm actually looking at CA pick which is not necessarily a deliberative body but clearly extremely highly valued information source so I think that it I think there's a way to put this on a you know on an XY grid and all the answers become apparent I'm sorry did you just say that we were going to have to chart this out no this is memo form this is a memo form uh council member Joe do you have a comment yes thank you um just to let the the body know I attend a number of these means as part of my job um I typically listen to the gmpb I listen to the gmpc normally I've just been appointed to the affordable housing committee um as a representative for my Business Association so [Music] um I know it's important to have a person on those committees that's voting and taking part in the conversation so that certainly weighs into things we just wanted to throw that in the conversation that we have some other feelers and and people out in the community that are also going to these these uh meetings out there so I'd be happy to continue as a greater escrow Chamber of Commerce liaison and happy to continue as a Cascade water Alliance individual if if you would like me to do that um just love going to meetings thanks and that's why you're on Council um okay so I'm hearing that definitely pulling together some kind of an informational document using the shared brain and experience Knowledge from all of us sounds like a good idea so that's something that I think Deputy council president Hall and I will reach out to each of you to quiz you on which ones have you been a part of what are your thoughts there so I think we can take care of that as an action item [Music] um go ahead council member um one other thing that just occurred to me I'm not sure if this is the only one that is like this but the Lake Sammamish Kokanee interlocal management committee really um deals with a subset of issues that the wire 8 salmon Recovery Council addresses and so having expertise and serving on it I don't think it would make a lot of sense to have different people serve on those I think it makes more sense to have the same person because they're so closely connected so that would be another thing for this um this information that you're collecting is if there are committees that have some sort of functional um or important connection to each other and similar to that one of the things that I've experienced is that the King County affordable housing committee is a subset of the gmpc and so you likely could not have someone on sitting on both of those that was the same person so there are a few other related ideas there yep uh Deputy council president Hall all right um all right so we're seeing kind of this larger chart action list action item come up I have some just kind of General comments on prioritization and how we should be thinking about that as a council I wanted to share too so you know some of the questions were how are we defining whether roles are important and what is our framework for prioritization some some things come to mind first and foremost what's required of us obviously right so I'm pretty sure we're required to have Eastside fire rescue Cascade water Alliance are we required to have someone on pick I think that's a requirement right uh yeah I mean you're offered you're just silly not to since we Paid Dues okay uh every year okay and chamber so you know there are these appointments that need to be filled so I almost am starting to see um it might even be worth having some sort of prioritization Matrix in this chart too in terms of these ones are required these ones have to deal with life or property safety you know like um that might rank higher than other appointments these ones are have to deal with this particular strategic plan goal area so I'm also just kind of seeing that we could also be categorizing this in different ways and then saying um you know Council it's time to re-up our appointments it's not required but you know here's this here's this Matrix Matrix of all the appointments we think it's most important as a deliberative body to have people in these required positions and then you know life safety positions although I guess there's kind of a lot of overlap between those two and then positions that line up with our strategic plan goal areas and I think there's another one and we might need to have a deeper conversation about this tonight about which ones what are our goals what are our aim appointments so like councilman remarks brought up Sound Transit which we intentionally left off because we wanted you know how do we get there you know at what point do we say okay okay we need to start strategically thinking about getting someone on this Transportation body so they can sit there for a few years and then move up to the next Transportation body so then eventually the King County Council or whoever makes that appointment appoints someone from Issaquah to Sound Transit so some things that I've been thinking about are we're hearing a lot about this chart and what are the things that we can kind of categorize them but also ranking is is something that I think we should be thinking about so that way when you go to look at this chart and say well where should I be serving it's not always just um well what's my background you know what am I interested in but also what's needed and from a strategic plan perspective and also from a required perspective so those are my thoughts and things councilman Ray I'm going to build on uh Deputy Council president's comments I think they're three tiers there are um things that we have to do Eastside Fire and Rescue um you know Cascade water Alliance you know those those are for sure right we're going to fill those the second tier are the the ones that actually we have an opportunity to influence the region and those are gmpc um you know it's the psrc transportation policy board whichever those are that that actually are deliberative bodies to steal from councilmember Mart that actually move the Needle And Then There are the informational ones which is I think the third tier where those are our sensing organs so that's a way for us to pick out areas that we're particularly interested in um knowing what's going on but we're not going to be drivers and then I think within that hierarchy there's a priority there's a waiting that says look um this one let me just pick on gmpc which is a you know tier two because um it's a deliberative body but not one that we're guaranteed or have to have but it's absolutely essential because we're such a growth Center so that's you know that's a that's uh extra large you know emphasis and then there might be another kind of attribute to the each one which is is it a stepping stone to someplace else and so we could actually tag another attribute to say Okay um you know this you know we don't think that the regional transit committee really does anything and I don't know if they do or not but it's a necessary thing if we want to go someplace else so what are our Stepping Stones to go from here to there and use that to help inform where we want want to go and then then it's superimposing people's interests and desires and skills and all that over that framework the accounts of President Hall is taking these notes um that's very useful the other thing that just came up for me realizing is I think a few of these boards including gmpc if I'm correct have term limits and so that's the other thing to consider council member marks yeah I I mean I trimmed out a gmpc after I think five years um so uh there's that there's also uh you know most of these are ultimately SCA uh appointments and it's the sca nominating committee uh which some of us may know some of those members or not or or whatnot but it you know just getting back to this you know doing your time in certain committees and moving your way up and I I think just writing down you know Zach if you come through and talk to all of us about the Committees we've been on and write this information down a lot of the stuff is just gonna show up as important but I mean just coming back to this gmpb and gmpc there's a time when gmpb made a lot of decisions and uh it's not in a current phase where it actually does all the decision making is over gmpc so there's just there's a lot of factors and I think you know I don't know how you know how many degrees of freedom you can put in a multi-variable uh optimization um or but just writing down information from each of us who have served in these committees I think will help uh council president you and the mayor make decisions you know I think if you get the qualitative information from everybody and then you do something where you get prioritized interest from each of us I think that the picture will emerge from it I'll tell you I have my own factors I now work 60 hours a week in South King County right so my my time is is you know I look a lot at when when these things are occurring so you know we all have we all have factors like that right that go into our interest in decision making thanks so let's move to that kind of conversation how how do we use this information that we come up with if we if we come up with this concept of you know here are the required here are the decision making here are the informational that are maybe useful in making a step up you know what other than information how do we think about using that councilmember hunt well I I think once we have that and then we have we currently have a system in place that I think works pretty well just asking people for their interest in applying so once we have those prioritized ones and then if there are conflicts um you know you could work with those council members or complex I mean um if there are two council members that want the same thing then you could talk with them and sort of work through that but I think that our current system on that works pretty well one other piece of information for your uh your fact sheet here is um uh some of these at least two that I serve on are making decisions about spending funds and we are part of an interlocal agreement so the city pays into the that fund and then oh several actually many of the ones I'm on um and then and then so that's another factor is if it's deliberative and if you know if if we are one of only a few cities that are in your local agreement and it's and this is making decisions about how that's spent you know that could could also be a factor fantastic wonderful um let me ask another question are we in the right seats currently and are there any of those that we see that aren't bold right now that we feel like are important or that we should pursue and this is certainly something that we can have conversations with people individually but it's also just an opportunity um you know I've looked at things like the Flood Control District when we look at a lot of the cities that have flood Plains and watersheds and all of that we haven't had a seat on that for a while I don't know how much decision-making Authority they have versus informational I know they have a pretty difficult schedule and that they meet often in the summer and then not very often outside of that summer period but I wonder is that something that we look at and go okay that could be applicable maybe we should think about putting that into a priority given we don't have a lot of experience on it so it isn't going to be one where we talk to everybody and we say what's the deal with this one so how do people feel about that do we feel like there are any others that we're looking at and saying yeah that's really important we should think about what that is no councilman hunt um it seems to me and also reflected just looking at at this that transportation and Transit you know making sure that we are representing Issaquah and those Transit conversations is really important um and so that's a regional you know Regional decisions but it really affects our community so I think I don't have a specific one in mind so that we aren't on or anything like that but I just think you know targeting those transportation and especially public transit um decision-making bodies and representing issaquah's voice in those is really important for us going forward and I also think we're we're on some you know just big picture we're on some really influential boards and I think we are well representing Issaquah if you look across this thing we're on many boards many that make decisions about important things including growth management and um and that is that is great great um I had a little bit of an email exchange with council member D Michelle since she wasn't going to be here tonight and she had mentioned Transportation um particularly Transit the Puget Sound regional council's growth management policy board and then she said kind of her third level was a tie between the regional affordable housing and the regional water quality Authority so just throwing that out there as a part of the conversation um so do we feel like we have what we need to take some next steps here it sounds like we're gonna pull together some conversations with everybody in order to kind of come up with this informational list and some sort of prioritization we will send that out and then we'll use that to kind of ask everyone to come up with their list of hey these are the things I'm interested in applying or reapplying to these are the ones that I'm not going to be interested actually mayor Pauley did ask me to ask you if there are any positions that you're sitting on right now that you don't think you're going to reapply for if you would just go ahead and email in to me or directly into your SCA staff rep they just they have a running total of how many open seats there are um but other than that I think we've got a pretty good timeline as far as coming up with this memo sharing it out asking for interest areas and then ultimately coordinating those applications before the deadline yeah okay any other commentary and I don't think there's anything from the administration to act on on that so I think at that point I will just say that we are done with our agenda and adjourned at 909 pm thank you everyone